=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [04:04] i'm researching ec2 kernels and mods - what to use for debian particularly [04:05] confused on what to use basically === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [04:43] ubuntu lucid i386 linux image 2 6 32 302 ec2 v 2 6 32 302 6 kernel i think will work ok with squeeze === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [05:26] flaccid: The supported Ubuntu kernel images (AKIs) would be the ones which are used by the active public Ubuntu AMIs. [05:26] Anything else is potentially subject to removal, which could ruin your day. [05:27] well in terms of debian however? [05:28] squeeze seems to run well on the lucid aki but needs the linux modules (which i guess i could install from the lucid repos) [05:32] erichammond what you think? [05:32] http://thecloudmarket.com/image/ami-bb3a6bfe--debian-6-0-squeeze-server#/definition uses older fedora kernel/ramdisk images [05:33] I abandoned support for Debian squeeze because of kernel incompatibilities. I would avoid any Alestic squeeze AMIs. [05:34] well i'm finally getting around to the debian support thing [05:35] did lenny play nicely enough with the amazon kernels? [05:35] I'd recommend building your AMIs from scratch so that you can reliably reproduce the process as time goes on. [05:35] erichammond: yep thats what i'm doing now [05:36] i have created a servertemplate [05:37] erichammond: i've updated http://support.rightscale.com/12-Guides/RightLink/04-Creating_RightScale-enabled_Images_with_RightLink/RightLink_Installer_for_Ubuntu to work with lucid [05:37] you can add that to your vmbuilder process which will give the latest rightlink v5 package [05:38] so now i'm going back to cover debian === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [05:45] wb [05:46] i basically would like to know the link between the kernel and it loading kernel mods from /lib/modules on boot [05:47] it appears to be a hardcoded relationship [05:47] i'm trying to make the ami independent of the kernel used [05:49] The kernel modules must match the kernel version exactly. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [05:49] Whenever you run a different kernel, you must have those kernel modules available. [05:50] Ubuntu was looking at downloading the kernel modules at run time or adding them to the ARI instead of the AMI. [05:50] but I don't think that went anywhere. [05:50] yeah its cool to have a switchable kernel but if the mods are not installed then no good [05:50] so i guess the ami can only support 'a range of kernels' [05:53] Yes, this is the general practice. [05:53] so where would i get the kernel modules for http://thecloudmarket.com/image/aki-f70657b2.html?page=6 (aki-f70657b2) ? [05:53] this is the default kernel to Debian Squeeze Alestic, root@ [05:53] Most often it is a single recommended kernel and new AMIs are released when new kernels come out. [05:53] flaccid: What region? [05:54] us-west atm [05:54] i just want to bundle vol with the same kernel and ramdisk as you are and see how it boots [05:54] If you have an AMI that uses that kernel, then the kernel modules should be installed on that AMI. [05:54] erichammond: thats what i am trying to do [05:56] No, I'm saying you could copy the kernel modules from the Alestic AMI. [05:57] erichammond: where did they come from originally? i'm debootstrapping [05:57] The Alestic Debian AMIs were built with ec2ubuntu-build-ami which would have pointers to the downloadable kernel modules. [05:58] must of missed it in http://ec2ubuntu.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bin/ec2ubuntu-build-ami [05:58] http://alestic-downloads.s3.amazonaws.com/ec2-kernel-modules-2.6.21.7-2.fc8xen-ec2-x86_64-20090930.tar.gz === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [06:08] looks right. [06:08] doing a re-run now [06:12] flaccid: The point, however, was that that old Amazon kernel will no longer work with squeeze. [06:13] does it work with lenny? [06:25] i'm also creating the bundle on /tmp/image-bundles/foo of the deboostrap root. does not seem like an ebs volume is required for s3 only building [06:34] bundled created: [06:34] Kernel image Amazon vmlinuz 2.6.21 2.fc8xen ec2 v1.0.i386.aki [06:34] Ramdisk image Amazon initrd 2.6.21.7 2.fc8xen ec2 v1.0.1.i386.ari [06:35] boot instance [06:52] doesn't seem to like lenny [08:06] flaccid: The old lenny AMI I built months ago still runs. It's possible lenny upgrades no longer work with that old kernel. [09:15] erichammond: i got squeeze going with an ubuntu lucid kernel === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [17:46] flaccid: Congrats on getting squeeze to run. The ec2debian Google group might be interested in your findings. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [19:08] erichammond, "new 32-bit Karmic ebs server based on Alestic's ami-6743ae0e" [19:08] when will you stop taking credit for Ubuntu's work ;-) [19:09] Where are you reading that? [19:09] i'm amazed at the namespace you've carved out (and i completely realize that you give Ubuntu credit and correct those statements) [19:09] ec2ubuntu mail [19:10] It's amazed me, too. [19:10] I did originally recommend that you put "canonical" in the bucket names to make the source clear to folks. [19:11] oh, wait. That AMI *is* one I published. [19:12] I use the Ubuntu image built by Canonical, but then, pretty much every Linux image anybody publishes uses files created by somebody else. [19:12] :) [19:13] The key is that if I die and Amazon cancels my account, that AMI will disappear :-/ [19:15] gah! it is, you're right. [19:15] your naming is the same as ours too :) [19:15] so i was confused. [19:15] er, your naming is the same as min :) [19:15] e [19:16] anyway [19:16] sorry [19:16] but your original point is true with other examples. [19:16] thats what you get for doing a helluva good job [19:16] i'll respond to that thread with: "I would help you, but i have no idea what that crazy 'alestic.com' does with their images" [19:16] :) [19:16] :) [19:18] I think you already know this, but the Karmic EBS boot AMIs I published are exact file system image copies from your published Ubuntu images. [19:19] yeah i know [19:24] smoser: Thanks for all the great support you've been providing to the ec2ubuntu group. If you'd like to take over approving new posters and filtering spam, let me know :) === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [23:54] erichammond: and smoser yeah guys still not very happy with kernels for debian* atm. still pondering on what to use that will work with at least lenny and squeeze without even the smallest issue