| ubuntujenkins | night all | 02:22 |
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| flan | Does anyone know where the blue help icon (circle with a ? in it) can be found? | 02:52 |
| flan | File path, URL... | 02:52 |
| flan | I just want to use it as a placeholder for the Qs server. | 02:52 |
| godbyk | flan: Try /usr/share/icons/Humanity/apps/48/gnome-help.svg | 03:01 |
| godbyk | or 128 for a bigger version. | 03:02 |
| flan | Ah. SVG. | 03:04 |
| flan | I was looing for PNG. | 03:04 |
| flan | Thanks. | 03:04 |
| nisshh | have you guys seen this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-updater | 04:35 |
| nisshh | humphreybc: ^^^ | 04:35 |
| humphreybc | yes | 04:35 |
| humphreybc | it's on OMG! Ubuntu! | 04:35 |
| nisshh | yea | 04:35 |
| nisshh | thats how i saw it | 04:36 |
| nisshh | what do you think? | 04:36 |
| humphreybc | sounds groovy | 04:36 |
| nisshh | yea, should be be promoting it though? | 04:36 |
| humphreybc | huh? | 04:37 |
| nisshh | well | 04:37 |
| nisshh | should we have a link to it on the website/wiki saying "this is how you get the latest builds from our server" | 04:37 |
| humphreybc | yeah maybe | 04:38 |
| nisshh | if we dont mention or endorse it or whatever people might think its not the real deal | 04:38 |
| godbyk | The code could be a bit nicer. Also, it's pulling the test builds, and they break fairly frequently. | 04:38 |
| nisshh | godbyk: ah, really? thats no good | 04:39 |
| godbyk | I'm not sure that it is 'the real deal'. | 04:39 |
| * nisshh goes and looks at the code | 04:39 | |
| nisshh | godbyk: what do you mean? | 04:39 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins has been designing 'the real deal', but it won't be out 'til Maverick. | 04:40 |
| nisshh | what? the same thing that the script there does? | 04:40 |
| godbyk | nisshh: Well, a bit more advanced than what that script is doing. | 04:40 |
| humphreybc | yeah | 04:40 |
| nisshh | yea | 04:40 |
| humphreybc | it has a GUI | 04:40 |
| humphreybc | and shit | 04:40 |
| godbyk | And allows for multiple documents (not just the one manual). | 04:41 |
| nisshh | ah, the thing that he was talking about on the ML? | 04:41 |
| nisshh | just the other day | 04:41 |
| godbyk | yeah | 04:41 |
| nisshh | yea | 04:42 |
| nisshh | that would be much better | 04:42 |
| nisshh | oh wow, the script is definitely not user friendly | 04:43 |
| godbyk | I haven't used it. | 04:43 |
| godbyk | I just looked at the code in it. | 04:43 |
| godbyk | It's written in a brittle fashion, so it could break easily. | 04:44 |
| nisshh | yea | 04:44 |
| nisshh | he also hasnt accounted for the fact that you need sudo to download something to somewhere other than your home dir | 04:45 |
| godbyk | I think it's intended to be ran during the boot process or something odd. | 04:45 |
| nisshh | says every login | 04:50 |
| godbyk | according to the code, it's every boot. | 04:53 |
| godbyk | he adds an init script to the boot process. | 04:53 |
| nisshh | godbyk: ah, didnt see that | 04:55 |
| ubuntujenkins | morning all | 09:54 |
| thorwil | morning! | 10:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | hey thorwil | 10:12 |
| vish | anyone has any idea where the quickstarter icon can be added for OOo ? | 10:16 |
| vish | where/how | 10:17 |
| ubuntujenkins | vish: do you not right click it in the menu and choose add to panel | 10:20 |
| vish | ubuntujenkins: hmm,actually it was not for me... i wanted to know about the quickstarter icon is the option still there in Lucid? | 10:21 |
| ubuntujenkins | by quickstarter icon do you mean like the firefox and yelp ones that are there by default? | 10:22 |
| vish | there seems to be a notification area icon for OOo | 10:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | I don't see one in the panel when i open open office | 10:23 |
| shrini | application->office-openoffice wwriter | 10:24 |
| shrini | rightclick | 10:24 |
| shrini | add this item to panel | 10:24 |
| shrini | this will add the icon to the panel | 10:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea i think vish is on about when you open it, is there an icon in the notification area? | 10:25 |
| vish | me neither, but people have screenshots of it , so was wondering how they have it | 10:27 |
| vish | just a sec , let me find the bug | 10:27 |
| ubuntujenkins | vish: worked it out how you get it | 10:28 |
| vish | ubuntujenkins: how? | 10:28 |
| ubuntujenkins | tools options and then http://imagebin.org/101515 | 10:29 |
| ubuntujenkins | you can right click it in the tray and choose disable | 10:30 |
| vish | ubuntujenkins: phew! found it thanks :) | 10:31 |
| ubuntujenkins | no problem, whats the bug? | 10:31 |
| vish | ubuntujenkins: i had found that > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/551927 | 10:32 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 551927 in light-themes "Backgrounds of quickstarter icon and vlc icon are not consistent with color of panel (dup-of: 403135)" [Undecided,New] | 10:32 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 403135 in vlc "Notification area icon wrongly rendered/uses bg_color as a background (multiple apps)" [Low,Confirmed] | 10:32 |
| ubuntujenkins | vish: that is a bug that effects me, i just disable them both | 10:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | also affects banshee iirc | 10:33 |
| vish | yeah | 10:34 |
| * nisshh just got a new Logitech G5 mouse and it works like a treat out of the box! | 10:49 | |
| nisshh | absolutely perfectly | 10:50 |
| ubuntujenkins | I have the wave pro keyboard and mouse set they are also great | 10:50 |
| nisshh | yea i have a g15 keyboard which works pretty well | 10:51 |
| nisshh | not perfect, but almost | 10:51 |
| nisshh | i didnt even have to edit my xorg config to get this G5 to work | 10:51 |
| nisshh | godbyk: how up to date is the style guide on the website? | 11:52 |
| nisshh | aquarius: hey again, id like to code in a little check function to my app that can tell if desktopcouch is being synced by ubuntu-one, is it possible to do this do you think? | 11:57 |
| aquarius | it's...not, at the moment | 11:57 |
| aquarius | can I suggest pinging cardinalfang on #ubuntuone about that? (he's not awake yet) | 11:57 |
| nisshh | right, does he know more about that sort of thing? | 11:58 |
| nisshh | aquarius: do you know when cardinalfng might be awake? | 11:59 |
| aquarius | about two or three hours from now | 12:00 |
| aquarius | (he's in the US, west coast) | 12:00 |
| nisshh | right, thanks, ill be sure to get a hold of him | 12:01 |
| nisshh | aquarius: hows the ubuntu developers manual coming along? | 12:07 |
| godbyk | nisshh: It hasn't been updated in eons. | 14:58 |
| godbyk | I have to run to a meeting. Be back in a few hours. :-/ | 14:58 |
| shrini | team: need help | 15:41 |
| shrini | some college students are asking me | 15:41 |
| shrini | for some project | 15:41 |
| nisshh | shrini: whats up? | 15:43 |
| shrini | nisshh: hi | 15:43 |
| nisshh | hey | 15:43 |
| shrini | i am thinking of | 15:44 |
| shrini | making them to contribute | 15:44 |
| shrini | to any open source projec | 15:44 |
| shrini | t | 15:44 |
| shrini | need your suggestions | 15:44 |
| shrini | and ideas | 15:44 |
| shrini | for any projects | 15:44 |
| shrini | is there any existing project that need any enhancements/ | 15:44 |
| nisshh | so you found some people willing to contribute to open source yes? | 15:45 |
| shrini | YES | 15:46 |
| shrini | :-) | 15:46 |
| nisshh | right, shrini hang on iv gotta relogin my sound is playing up, ill be right back :) | 15:46 |
| nisshh | shrini: right, im back now | 15:48 |
| nisshh | so you are unsure where to point them to so they can contribute is that right? | 15:49 |
| nisshh | shrini: ^^^^^ | 15:49 |
| nisshh | shrini: you there still? ping | 15:50 |
| shrini | nisshh: pong | 16:00 |
| shrini | nisshh: hai. went for water | 16:01 |
| shrini | nisshh: they need projects | 16:01 |
| shrini | to do | 16:01 |
| nisshh | right, so they want to contribute but dont know where to start? | 16:05 |
| nisshh | shrini: ^^^^ | 16:07 |
| shrini | nisshh: yes | 16:10 |
| shrini | we can suggest some open source projects | 16:10 |
| shrini | I can guide them about irc, mailing list, svn, git etc | 16:11 |
| shrini | so that they can directly interact with the developers | 16:11 |
| shrini | and contribute | 16:11 |
| nisshh | right, how much experience do they have shrini? | 16:14 |
| shrini | nisshh: students | 16:14 |
| shrini | they know little php,python,c | 16:14 |
| nisshh | shrini: ok good | 16:14 |
| nisshh | shrini: so i assume they want something nice and simple to work on? | 16:15 |
| shrini | nisshh: s | 16:15 |
| nisshh | shrini: well, i honestly cant think of many really simple apps they could contribute to, although they could always make their own | 16:16 |
| shrini | nisshh: yes | 16:16 |
| shrini | thanks | 16:16 |
| nisshh | shrini: no problem, thats where i suggest they start | 16:16 |
| nisshh | shrini: maybe mention the Quickly app to them | 16:17 |
| nisshh | its on launchpad | 16:17 |
| shrini | nisshh: in a call | 16:23 |
| nisshh | ok | 16:29 |
| shrini | nisshh: came | 16:30 |
| shrini | nisshh: thanks | 16:32 |
| shrini | need some new project ideas | 16:32 |
| shrini | or | 16:32 |
| shrini | list of tasks to do in existing projects | 16:32 |
| nisshh | shrini: hmm, well, im not trying to get my project worked on or anything, but they could play around with my app if they like, its pretty simple | 16:41 |
| nisshh | or they could drop in on #ubuntu-bugs and do some triage | 16:42 |
| nisshh | or maybe participate in a bug jam somewhere | 16:42 |
| nisshh | or help out with the patch review thing going on | 16:43 |
| nisshh | shrini: there are so many things they could work on i cant list them all here | 16:43 |
| shrini | nisshh: thnaks | 16:44 |
| nisshh | shrini: no problem :) | 16:44 |
| shrini | i ask them to learn quickly | 16:44 |
| shrini | if they are willing to do desktop app | 16:45 |
| nisshh | shrini: cool, ah, what are they wanting to do mostly? | 16:45 |
| shrini | nisshh: not decided yet | 16:46 |
| shrini | they are ready to do | 16:47 |
| shrini | if we pick and point them on what to do | 16:47 |
| shrini | hope they can do it | 16:47 |
| shrini | showed them http://neevaan.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/a-content-management-system-for-lugs/ | 16:47 |
| nisshh | wait, so they are wanting to setup a LUG? | 16:48 |
| shrini | nisshh: no | 16:49 |
| shrini | this blog is from another guy | 16:49 |
| nisshh | yea | 16:49 |
| shrini | he proposing a new project | 16:49 |
| nisshh | oooohhhhhh | 16:49 |
| shrini | my friends may write the application | 16:49 |
| shrini | for the requirement said in the blog | 16:49 |
| shrini | and host it | 16:49 |
| nisshh | oh the content management system | 16:50 |
| nisshh | right | 16:50 |
| shrini | right | 16:50 |
| nisshh | thats a good project for them to do | 16:50 |
| shrini | :-) | 16:50 |
| nisshh | they have set goals and assuming they have a server, or the means to host the CMS then its perfect | 16:50 |
| shrini | ya | 16:51 |
| nisshh | shrini: i say tell them to go for it if they want to :) | 16:51 |
| shrini | :-) | 16:51 |
| shrini | i can fund them to host that project | 16:51 |
| shrini | :-) | 16:51 |
| nisshh | oh cool | 16:51 |
| nisshh | shrini: see what you can do about trying to make the CMS they create open-source | 16:52 |
| shrini | yes | 16:52 |
| nisshh | THAT would be awesome | 16:52 |
| shrini | we will host the code in LP | 16:52 |
| shrini | or sourceforge | 16:52 |
| nisshh | cool | 16:52 |
| shrini | or code.google.com | 16:52 |
| shrini | :-) | 16:52 |
| nisshh | also quickly is no good for stuff like a CMS | 16:53 |
| shrini | yes | 16:53 |
| nisshh | yep | 16:53 |
| shrini | they are willing to contribute | 16:53 |
| nisshh | cool, do they use irc? | 16:53 |
| shrini | 10 guys are there | 16:53 |
| shrini | if we give a list of projects to do | 16:54 |
| shrini | they can pick each one | 16:54 |
| shrini | and start to work on that | 16:54 |
| shrini | irc? | 16:54 |
| shrini | no | 16:54 |
| shrini | have to teach them | 16:54 |
| shrini | will do it soon | 16:54 |
| nisshh | shrini: are these guys local to you? | 16:56 |
| shrini | nisshh: s | 16:56 |
| nisshh | how did you manage to find 10 people willing to contribute?? | 16:56 |
| nisshh | that would be impossible in my area | 16:57 |
| nisshh | :) | 16:57 |
| shrini | :-) | 17:00 |
| shrini | nisshh: here all college students must do a project | 17:06 |
| shrini | in their final year | 17:06 |
| shrini | mostly they for java and .net | 17:06 |
| shrini | i am fishing those students | 17:06 |
| shrini | and explaining them about opensource | 17:06 |
| shrini | and formed the kanchilug | 17:07 |
| shrini | hope you know about kanchilug | 17:07 |
| shrini | kanchilug.wordpress.com | 17:07 |
| shrini | http://kanchilug.wordpress.com | 17:07 |
| shrini | people are doing wonderful activities | 17:07 |
| shrini | they are very much interestd in contributing | 17:08 |
| thorwil | shrini: the best way to get into an existing open-source project might well be fixing bugs | 17:13 |
| shrini | thorwil: you are right | 17:13 |
| shrini | searching for simple projects to start with | 17:13 |
| shrini | if possible suggest some simple projects | 17:13 |
| shrini | :-) | 17:13 |
| thorwil | shrini: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut | 17:13 |
| shrini | wow | 17:14 |
| shrini | thorwil: thanks for the link | 17:15 |
| shrini | interesting | 17:15 |
| thorwil | shrini: with the papercut project, chances are good the bugs are not too complicated. otherwise, if you just skim through the bug tracker of any app, you might have a hard time to find bugs of the right level. the less experience you have, the harder it is to access the complexity, i would assume | 17:16 |
| nisshh | shrini: oh, wow, so you grab those students from the start and convert them over | 17:17 |
| nisshh | thorwil: crap, i forgot about that project | 17:17 |
| shrini | thorwil: yes. let me explore that | 17:17 |
| nisshh | thorwil: there is also the bug hug days | 17:17 |
| shrini | nisshh: yes :-) | 17:17 |
| nisshh | shrini: are these guys the same guys that did the manual tamil translations? | 17:19 |
| shrini | nisshh: yes | 17:19 |
| shrini | same guys | 17:19 |
| nisshh | oh cool | 17:19 |
| shrini | they found their friends | 17:20 |
| nisshh | hehe | 17:20 |
| shrini | interesting to contribute | 17:20 |
| nisshh | so they already use ubuntu right? | 17:20 |
| shrini | yes | 17:20 |
| nisshh | that certainly makes it easier for them to get started, being familiar and all | 17:20 |
| shrini | yes | 17:21 |
| shrini | some more new guys are there | 17:21 |
| shrini | trainig is going for them | 17:21 |
| shrini | training on foss concepts, linux, ubuntu, python, php | 17:21 |
| shrini | etc | 17:21 |
| shrini | we had a 1 week training session | 17:21 |
| nisshh | nice | 17:21 |
| shrini | followup sessions are going every sunday | 17:22 |
| shrini | :-) | 17:22 |
| shrini | now they need some real time projects | 17:22 |
| shrini | to work on | 17:22 |
| shrini | will look at papercuts and | 17:23 |
| shrini | check for the possibilities | 17:23 |
| shrini | thanks thorwil for pointing that | 17:23 |
| shrini | i totally forget that | 17:23 |
| thorwil | np | 17:23 |
| thorwil | shrini: what's the usual reaction of being exposed to python and php in close succession? : | 17:23 |
| shrini | ya | 17:23 |
| shrini | we get different outputs | 17:24 |
| shrini | people who like web development love php for its easiness | 17:24 |
| shrini | people love desktop apps love python and ruby | 17:24 |
| shrini | but as they love to contribute | 17:24 |
| shrini | they learn all we teach | 17:25 |
| shrini | they are forming their own teams | 17:25 |
| shrini | for php,python,ruby | 17:25 |
| thorwil | cool | 17:25 |
| shrini | each team is searching for projects to contribute | 17:25 |
| shrini | still svn , git, irc trainig are pending | 17:25 |
| shrini | we have very less internet connectivity | 17:26 |
| shrini | so, internet based training are getting delayed | 17:26 |
| ubuntujenkins | evening all | 21:34 |
| ubuntujenkins | how are we does anyone need any help? | 21:35 |
| dutchie | i need to remember the really cool thing i was going to do in SVG and javascript | 21:36 |
| dutchie | :( | 21:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | you were going to do an animated advert for quickshot, after thinking of new logo ideas | 21:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | is anyone else here apart from dutchie ? | 21:43 |
| dutchie | it would seem not | 21:44 |
| ubuntujenkins | dutchie: what are you thinking for the advert then :P | 22:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | night all | 22:35 |
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