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| robbiew | o/ | 16:00 |
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| psurbhi | hello \o/ | 16:00 |
| * barry waves | 16:00 | |
| Keybuk | \o/ | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | \o/ | 16:02 |
| doko | hi | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | doko: are you chairing? | 16:04 |
| doko | #startmeeting | 16:05 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:05. The chair is doko. | 16:05 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:05 |
| doko | ev ? | 16:05 |
| doko | shuffled: doko, cjwatson, Keybuk, ev, barry, surbhi, mvo | 16:06 |
| doko | (no cheating) | 16:07 |
| doko | # Linaro infrastructure sprint (well, the infrastructure guys did complain it was too much toolchain work). | 16:07 |
| doko | # Merge of CS gcc-4.4 branch for Linaro. | 16:07 |
| doko | # Review Debian/Ubuntu GCC patches for integration in Linaro. | 16:07 |
| doko | # Look at using the CS gcc-4.4 branch on i386 and amd64 for maverick. | 16:07 |
| doko | -- | 16:07 |
| doko | cjwatson: ? | 16:08 |
| robbiew | mvo is on holiday | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | done: nearly finished with foundations-m-btrfs-support; made some progress with foundations-m-uefi-support, and just in time because I just took delivery of hardware from OEM to help test it; some big merges (grub2, initramfs-tools) | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | todo: planning to nail everything that can be nailed of foundations-m-uefi-support over the next week, and then get back to seeing how to get GRUB onto the CDs | 16:09 |
| barry | robbiew: mvo is unavailable <wink> | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | -- | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: ? | 16:11 |
| Keybuk | Still not getting much done :-( | 16:11 |
| Keybuk | Have managed a few package updates, and testing kernel update for them though. | 16:11 |
| Keybuk | ~ | 16:11 |
| barry | foundations-m-python-versions: building out py27stack ppa; python-defaults refactoring and adding 2.7 as supported (but not yet default); rebuilt several packages; now fixing python2.7-minimal bugs. foundations-m-python-continuous-integration: unittest2 testing, bug reporting, etc; stdeb testing, bug reporting, etc; python-mkdebian testing (not gonna work). done. | 16:11 |
| psurbhi | finished the following: | 16:12 |
| psurbhi | 1) Spent some time in learning about fstest and its usage. Spent some time debugging the device geometry that grub uses and using the same for mkfs.btrfs for a loopback device. | 16:12 |
| psurbhi | 2) Following works through grub-fstest: ls, ls -lh, crc of a file. This works for a btrfs filesystem created in a image provided the mkfs is done on the proper offset in accordance with fdisk -ul and then subsequently, -o offset is used for mount | 16:12 |
| psurbhi | 3) Need to test this thoroughly. desperately needs caching. | 16:12 |
| psurbhi | 4) Need to test cp and hex (and other fs-test commands) and add caching support | 16:12 |
| psurbhi | .. | 16:12 |
| psurbhi | <done> | 16:12 |
| doko | ok, mvo in vacation | 16:13 |
| doko | I don't see outstanding items from last meeting | 16:13 |
| doko | skipping feature freeze exceptions | 16:14 |
| * ev feels left out - has my IRC bouncer been connected to this channel and I've just missed a bunch of messages? | 16:14 | |
| Keybuk | ev: clearly you're using the wrong bouncer | 16:14 |
| ev | I'm using the same one as you! | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | ev: looks like doko prodded you before you /joined | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | 16:05 <doko> ev ? | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | ... | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | 16:08 -!- ev [~ev@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-meeting | 16:15 |
| doko | ev: go ahead with the lighning, didn't see you join | 16:15 |
| ev | ah | 16:15 |
| ev | working on running two debconfcommunicators in parallel, started hacking together a server based on geonames (type some random town and get a timezone back), reviewed the design specification and added more notes for michael, chatted with michael over some of them, began implementation of some of the functionality and started a conversation with legal about the installing ubuntu-restricted-extras bit. | 16:15 |
| ev | -- | 16:15 |
| doko | are there any other specs which need to be finalized/approved until tomorrow? | 16:16 |
| barry | doko: i have not heard anything definitive back from ubuntu-releases, re: py27 | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | ubuntu-release is pretty undermanned at the moment | 16:17 |
| robbiew | is this the discussion about making 2.7 default for 10.10? | 16:17 |
| barry | cjwatson: ah | 16:17 |
| barry | robbiew: yes | 16:17 |
| ev | seems like there are quite a few in https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu?searchtext=foundations-m- | 16:17 |
| doko | yes, motu/ScottK doesn't like the idea | 16:17 |
| barry | i know. he favors supported but not default | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: no upstart specs yet, I guess? | 16:18 |
| barry | which is not as mavericky as i'd like, but his reasoning is sound and i could support that approach | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | I do have the code to get them into the WI tracker (more or less), just need test cases for it :-) | 16:18 |
| doko | barry: I'll try to ping him, maybe we can find the time to chat together late tonight | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | of the foundations-m- ones, the ones that jump out as possible maverick candidates are foundations-m-usb-creator-bugfixer and foundations-m-software-center-backend? | 16:20 |
| Keybuk | cjwatson: it's one of the things I appear to be unable to do, yes | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | I don't know either of those well so maybe they're inappropriate | 16:21 |
| barry | doko: +1 | 16:21 |
| * cjwatson fedexes Keybuk some davidm-strength coffee | 16:21 | |
| Keybuk | coffee wouldn't help, some prozac maybe? :p | 16:22 |
| ev | whoops, missed that - usb-creator-bugfixer is now proposed for maverick | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | ugh | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | ev: and accepted | 16:22 |
| ev | cjwatson: cheers | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: let me know if you need assistance of the potted-plant variety | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | potted plant? | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | something inanimate to talk at | 16:23 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: speaking of FedEx...what's up with those Dell Minis :) | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | ahh | 16:23 |
| doko | ok, any other spec business? | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: yet another thing I haven't done, sorry | 16:23 |
| robbiew | moving on? | 16:26 |
| doko | alpha2 bugs: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.milestone:list=27560 | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | I only saw two for us there, the silly version bugs | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | Dylan's aware of the slideshow one, it'll be done as part of a more general update I think | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: is it OK to just do the obvious 10.04 -> 10.10 change in plymouth, or do you want to do something more complete than that? | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | like lsb_release at build time or something | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | cjwatson: go ahead, I don't have any plymouth-related plans this cycle | 16:28 |
| doko | and maybe one MIR. looking at this one | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: ok | 16:28 |
| doko | cjwatson: I might pester you with an archive rebuild (main) withe the CS GCC next week (and maybe a request trying to build a CD image) | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | np | 16:29 |
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| robbiew | awlright then.... | 16:31 |
| doko | http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 16:31 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | I did a rather measly one today | 16:32 |
| dholbach | thanks doko :) | 16:32 |
| doko | honestly, I don't know how to interpret the table now in the meeting. just looking at the "last commenters" isn't enough | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | "last commenters" is a weird column because what I find I need to do with it is to *skip* the rows with names I recognise | 16:34 |
| barry | if we do not have upload privs, is there anything we can still do with sponsoring? | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | not a lot, realistically | 16:35 |
| barry | cjwatson: what do the bold and italics mean in last comment column? | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | there's a key at the bottoom | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | *bottom | 16:35 |
| * barry scrolls | 16:36 | |
| barry | ah, thanks | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | anyway, not much more to discuss here, I think we should move on? | 16:36 |
| robbiew | yes | 16:37 |
| doko | don't see any business from activity reports | 16:38 |
| doko | good news / bad news ? | 16:38 |
| * robbiew was able to get approval for another headcount :) | 16:39 | |
| barry | yay! | 16:39 |
| ev | hooray | 16:39 |
| doko | so how many are now pending? | 16:40 |
| ev | is it the secretary I've been clamoring for since I joined? | 16:40 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:40 |
| robbiew | doko: what do you mean by pending? | 16:40 |
| robbiew | we have one opening now | 16:41 |
| Keybuk | ev: you don't need a secretary if you work from the office, you can have the design team do things for you | 16:41 |
| ev | haha, somehow I doubt they'll fetch me coffee from Starbucks | 16:42 |
| doko | robbiew: how many heads do we expect? one or more? | 16:42 |
| doko | anyway, AOB? | 16:42 |
| Keybuk | ev: I don't even know where there is a Starbucks anywhere near Millbank | 16:42 |
| robbiew | doko: ah..expect one | 16:42 |
| ev | Keybuk: vauxhall | 16:42 |
| * robbiew played with burg this week...pretty cool | 16:43 | |
| cjwatson | damnit, shiny new test hardware requires US->UK converter and I don't have one | 16:43 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: burg? | 16:43 |
| Keybuk | cjwatson: converter or plug? | 16:43 |
| * barry just saw a very close and very loud lightning strike | 16:43 | |
| robbiew | BURG stands for Brand-new Universal loadeR from GRUB. | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | well, either, but the end for my own laptop doesn't fit the brick | 16:43 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Burg | 16:43 |
| robbiew | has some REALLY nice graphics support | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | thankfully, mostly obsoleted by grub2 ;-) | 16:44 |
| cjwatson | just need to put the themes together | 16:44 |
| robbiew | yeah | 16:44 |
| robbiew | if we could get the themes down...it would rock | 16:44 |
| robbiew | http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/Screenshots | 16:44 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/Screenshots | 16:44 |
| cjwatson | yup, will likely be working on at least some of that as part of foundations-m-cd-boot | 16:44 |
| robbiew | the burg themes are slick | 16:45 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: cool | 16:45 |
| ev | wow, lets go with that first one and switch the desktop environment to twm | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | there are a few basic widgets we don't have yet, some debate as to the best way to represent them so that things still work well with things like serial consoles | 16:45 |
| robbiew | yeah...i figured there were corner cases not considered with it | 16:46 |
| barry | ev: twm ftw! (who remembers wool?) | 16:46 |
| robbiew | the overall effect is very clean...with the subtle animations as you scroll though the OSes | 16:46 |
| robbiew | anyway...that's all I had | 16:47 |
| ev | barry: wool? | 16:47 |
| robbiew | oh...and we are close to naming a release manager | 16:47 |
| ev | yay | 16:47 |
| robbiew | down to 2 candidates | 16:47 |
| robbiew | "yay" indeed | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | robbiew: wanna help design grub2 themes for the package? there's only one person doing grub2 theming work at the moment (directhex) | 16:47 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: did they not have a name before they applied? | 16:47 |
| barry | ev: well, actually gwm. wool was the lisp dialect that the wm ran | 16:48 |
| ev | cjwatson: otto? | 16:48 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: hmm...I'll take a look at it, sure | 16:48 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: /very/ funny | 16:48 |
| doko | ok, are we funished? | 16:48 |
| robbiew | ev: yeah..that makes more sense | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | ev: directhex => jo shields | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | ev: or are you saying otto has been doing some? | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | if so he hasn't told anyone :-) | 16:49 |
| ev | robbiew: well that's not to say he has time to do it | 16:49 |
| robbiew | sure | 16:49 |
| ev | cjwatson: no, not at all | 16:49 |
| ev | I just figured it was his realm more than anyone else's | 16:49 |
| robbiew | but probably not worth waisting time on designing themes we know won't get used | 16:49 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | ah, right. I don't think it needs to bump out other design team things at the moment | 16:49 |
| ev | but I am fully aware that getting some of his time is not the easiest task on the planet | 16:49 |
| robbiew | anyway...I'll take a stab at it | 16:49 |
| robbiew | I got a lot more time on my hands these days | 16:49 |
| robbiew | ;) | 16:49 |
| * cjwatson ponders an lplib script to reassign all his bugs to robbiew | 16:50 | |
| robbiew | heh | 16:50 |
| ev | barry: ah, unfamiliar with that. I was only just getting started when I used twm. | 16:50 |
| doko | next chair? | 16:51 |
| barry | ev: teh googles says the last update to its web page was mid 90's ;) | 16:51 |
| ev | hahaha, awesome | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | doko: rule from last meeting would make it you again ;-) | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | so I guess obvious sanity check means we use the second from the shuffle list in that case, i.e. me | 16:51 |
| Keybuk | I used to like olvwm | 16:52 |
| ev | are we playing roulette with the chair now as well? | 16:52 |
| doko | cjwatson: ok ... :-/ | 16:52 |
| doko | 3 | 16:52 |
| doko | 2 | 16:52 |
| barry | Keybuk: i remember that one | 16:53 |
| doko | 1 | 16:53 |
| doko | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:53. | 16:53 |
| robbiew | thanks doko | 16:53 |
| psurbhi | doko, thanks | 16:53 |
| doko | will shuffle better next time | 16:53 |
| psurbhi | :) | 16:53 |
| barry | doko: hack the script! :) | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | doko: it's fine for it to be me :) | 16:53 |
| barry | thanks doko | 16:53 |
| * barry -> reboot intarwebs | 16:54 | |
| ev | thanks | 16:54 |
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