[02:55] <Pwen> hi all, is there a mythbuntu changelog? so I can see what changes are made when using 0.24+fixes before installing them? thanks
[03:14] <mrand> Pwen: 0.24 is pretty unstable right now
[03:16] <mrand> It is many months away from being "released."  The informal and incomplete release notes page is here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.24
[03:16] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Release Notes - 0.24 - MythTV
[03:16] <tgm4883> Pwen, in other words, why do you want to upgrade to 0.24?
[03:29] <Pwen> mrand, tgm4883 I have been using 0.24+fixes for a while with minimal issues
[03:30] <Pwen> but I am careful of udpates, hence wanting to read a changelog :)
[03:30] <mrand> Pwen: Good to hear.  The "official" changelog is http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline
[03:30] <Zinn> [svn.mythtv.org] Timeline – MythTV
[03:32] <Pwen> cool, thanks
[03:34] <Pwen> I have been very impressed with Mythbuntu of late. I updated to 10.04 and 0.24+fixes pretty mught as soon as they were available. some might say that is silly but I have found it to be more stable than 9.10+0.23
[03:35] <Pwen> that said I am probably a very basic user, scheduling recordings from mythweb, watchig videos in mythvideo and that's about it
[03:47] <dmfrey> Hey everyone...just did an apt-get upgrade on my master backend and now the mythbackend init.d script is gone, anyone seen that happen before?
[03:49] <dmfrey> actualy, it is now gone on two of my boxes
[03:49] <dmfrey> was it removed and replaced with something else?
[03:53] <dmfrey> i guess this has been removed...i rebooted both and now they are all connected to each other, however, still no scripts
[03:53] <dmfrey> what else is starting the backends?
[03:55] <mrand> dmfrey: upstart
[03:55] <dmfrey> mrand: thanks, i take it this was just recent
[03:56] <mrand> dmfrey: I don't recall... 9.10 or 10.04.
[03:56] <mrand> Pwen: if you're lucky when you update, you can have a reasonably stable system with trunk.  But an unlucky update can be painful.
[03:57] <dmfrey> mrand: I did an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 and it was still there...it was still there as of last week, it only seemed to be just now that it is gone
[03:58] <mrand> dmfrey: sorry, not sure.  Maybe someone else knows...
[03:58] <dmfrey> mrand: np, thanks for your help
[04:12]  * rhpot1991 waves at dmfrey 
[04:13] <rhpot1991> for the record: init script is now gone, we have been using upstart for a while but the init script remained until recently
[04:20] <McNever> hey guys... having an issue setting up an ir blast on a hd-pvr
[04:21] <McNever> looks like the dirvers are installed at least i see a /dev/lirc0
[04:22] <McNever> when i try to use irsend i get an "Connection refused"
[04:22] <mrand> McNever: it'd be best to ask on #mythtv-users   I'm not sure what the status is on ir-blasting with that, but in Q3 or Q4 last year, I know it wasn't working.
[04:22] <mrand> Or there might be a discussion on the mythtv-users mailing list about it.
[04:23] <McNever> really... that seems like a pretty big part of whole picture...
[04:23] <McNever> thanks i'll ask around
[04:24] <mrand> McNever: I think the theory was that there are LOTS of ir blasters.
[04:24] <rhpot1991> McNever: might be worth looking into alternatives like firewire if its an option
[04:27] <McNever> yeah... firewire isnt an option... all my channels are encrypted
[04:28] <McNever> mrand: so this is just a problem with the HD-PVR ip blaster then
[04:28] <McNever> ?
[04:32] <mrand> McNever: Some people can use firewire just for channel changing, not for the video itself.
[04:32] <mrand> McNever: that's what I recall reading many, many months ago.
[04:33] <McNever> humm... yeah if i remember i can change channels over the firewire... just get no lock... thats an idea... not sure how to do it yet but you got the gears turning
[04:33] <mrand> If that works, it is typically faster and more reliable than IR.
[04:34] <Pwen> yes the init.d scripts disappoeared somethnig in the last 2 weeks
[04:34] <McNever> not sure i get what you just said...
[04:35] <McNever> oh.. nm... thanks mrand... maybe i'll look into that... more reading...
[04:44] <rhpot1991> McNever: I do both capture and tuning over firewire, it should be more efficient than blasting (and most likely easier to set up)
[04:44] <rhpot1991> McNever: look in the contrib directory there are a bunch of changers in there already
[08:55] <Keithamus> anyone here got a diskless setup?
[11:48] <Pwen> hi all. since the removal of the init.d script for starting mythbackend, mythbackend is no longer started automatically upon boot. how can I fix this?
[17:10] <qwebirc66095> anyone just apt-get upgrade mythtv 0.23 today and found their /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend  script has been deleted?
[17:18] <mrand> qwebirc66095: there have been reports here.  upstart is what is used now.
[17:41] <tgm4883> qwebirc66095, yes
[17:41] <tgm4883> it's upstart now
[17:42] <tgm4883> sudo service mythbackend status
[17:42] <tgm4883> mrand, I just saw 2 in the forums. same thing
[17:42] <tgm4883> if we get many more, we need a blog post
[18:55] <qwebirc66095> tnx
[18:55] <qwebirc66095> 'service mythtv-backend start '  works
[18:56] <qwebirc66095> however, mythtv does not show up in the list of services where querying upstart
[18:56] <qwebirc66095> 'service --status-all'
[18:56] <qwebirc66095> also referencing the service w/o a command gives a misleading error message:
[18:56] <qwebirc66095> 'service mythtv-backend'
[18:57] <qwebirc66095> mythtv-backend: unrecognized service
[18:58] <qwebirc66095> i would think not showing up in the service list would be a bug
[18:58] <qwebirc66095> to contract with another service:
[18:59] <tgm4883> qwebirc66095, yea we are working on that. we should be shipping the init script for compatibility. I think when that is fixed (next build) that it will fix this as well
[18:59] <qwebirc66095> service winbind Usage: /etc/init.d/winbind {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status}
[18:59] <qwebirc66095> contract=contrast
[18:59] <qwebirc66095> great! thanks!
[21:24] <Hilikus> hey guys
[21:24] <Hilikus> i updated to ubuntu 10.04 last night and changing channels stopped working
[21:25] <Hilikus> and IRBlaster stopped working
[21:25] <Hilikus> irsend: hardware does not support sending