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ubottuBodsda called the ops in #ubuntu (a_vuvuzela)01:32
Piciinteresting.01:33
h00kthat was interesting01:34
IdleOnehow so?01:35
IdleOnemade me a little sleepy with all the zeds01:35
IdleOneor zees01:35
IdleOnehowever you pronouce it01:35
IdleOnes/you/YOU01:36
h00kYew01:38
IdleOneMii?01:38
IdleOnenau iu01:39
ubottuIn ubottu, theadmin said: !wicd is an alternative to the default network manager. To replace the default network manager with wicd, run 'sudo apt-get install wicd' in a !terminal06:28
ubottuIn ubottu, XFGoldenBBL said: !oldster is An Old Fart who still thinks compiling everything from is actually needed .. AKA Gentoo User06:29
Flannelubottu: tell XFGoldenBBL about scope06:30
FlannelHowdy XFGoldenBBL06:31
XFGoldenBBLMeh :p06:31
FlannelHow can we help you today?06:31
XFGoldenBBLlet ubottu tel me about !oldster :p06:32
XFGoldenBBLI'm a little sudsy right now just having a jab06:32
ubottuIn ubottu, XFGoldenBBL said: !iscsi is Internet Small Computer System Interface : An ip based way to communicate scsi commands. Many things can be served over iSCSI including physical disks, partitions, files, devices. iscsitarget is the name of the package avaiable in ubuntu (in the "Ubuntu Software Center"). Once installed you can serve iSCSI tarets for really fast IP access .07:12
ts2sounds like something more suited for the wiki07:29
FlannelI think he's just looking to add *something*, so he made up a factoid about a random thing I'm not sure we've ever had a support request for07:30
FlannelAh, he asked a question about it earlier07:31
ts2it's a rather unused thing, not many people woild need remote access to (raw) SCSI07:32
ts2unless you wantet to burn a CD to a remote system or something07:32
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bazhanggetting pretty tense in -ot09:35
ikoniacan you clam it a little ? (does it need it ?)09:38
ikoniawhat was the topic ?09:39
bazhangspaceghost and rww getting into it09:39
ikoniadid it need to be "stopped" or just calme down (I've not read the topic they where talking about )09:42
bazhangwell they've both been asked to stop the insults, but continued nonetheless. Just petty stuff, back and forth09:43
ikoniaHmmmm09:43
ubottubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()09:45
elkynext time, i kind of suggest giving spaceghost a time-out.09:48
bazhangI concur. He was instigating it all the way.09:48
ikoniahe always does09:49
elkyknowingly walking the line /is/ baiting.09:49
bazhanghe even said so directly09:49
elkyproudly.09:49
Tm_Thi, anyone had contacts from mr Martiini ?10:11
ikoniawhy do I know that nick ?10:11
jpdsikonia: He was here a few days ago.10:11
ikoniaah, nope not had anything direct from him10:12
bazhangused to troll M yrrti in -ot10:12
bazhangTm_T, he was in #kubuntu earlier today10:12
Tm_The's been silent, good10:13
bazhangfar as I saw, yep10:13
Tm_Tok, if no pm from him or other incidents, alls fine I guess (:10:13
Tm_TFYI he has some kind of quest against me so he might be trouble in channels too10:14
ikoniadelightful10:14
Tm_Tits ok as long as he leaves others alone10:14
ikoniafrom now on - no-more crap in #ubuntu-offtopic - there are other channels to behave like children in10:39
ikoniayou want to make poopy jokes, or porn gags, it's else where10:40
gordikonia, do you really want to be having this discussion "in" -ot?10:43
ikoniapartly yes,10:43
ikoniaas I'm tired of the childish behaviour and hey I'll mention porn to get s shock style attitude10:44
ikoniait's discussion channel, not a zoo or a play pen for children10:44
gordi don't think you can make that broad statement for everyone10:46
ikoniait's not everyone,10:46
ikoniabut from a personal point of view, I'm going to stop the dribble in there10:46
ikoniait begins now10:46
gordthats not an op's job10:47
ikoniayou want to make your random porn comment to shock - do it elsewhere10:47
ikoniagord: by dribble I mean the little comments liek Ginbun210:47
ikoniaofftopic conversation is what it's about10:47
gordthats a little heavy handed ikonia10:47
ikoniayes, it probably is10:48
Tm_Tgord: I would gladly welcome any soft way to keep -ot in sane order10:48
gordhonestly it just comes down to participation. if you want -ot to be more grown up you have to steer it that way. yelling at people and waving the authority flag isn't going to help anyone. its just going to get people riled up10:49
Tm_Tgord: agreed on that10:49
bazhangnot everyone lives in there though. sometimes just stopping by, and one can't help but comment10:50
ikoniagord: it's pretty hard to particiapate in conversation that is basically poppy head, lol, random words,10:50
Tm_Tbut also not showing where's the limit when it's obviously crossed wont help any (:10:50
ikoniaI plan to be a lot more active in -offtopic now10:50
bazhangthanks knome11:19
knomebazhang, no problemos11:19
knomenikolam is a regular, not usually any problems11:19
bazhangyep seen him before, bit odd today is all11:19
knomeyeah11:20
knomeonly recently came online, so didn't see the whole conversation11:20
bazhangdidn't miss a thing11:20
knomeheh:)11:20
bazhang:)11:21
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Bradleyd)12:41
PiciAlvinGreene was trolling #freenode and possible ##linux earlier, keeping an eye on him in -offtopic right now.13:56
ikoniacool13:57
Piciand... banned.14:09
ikoniagood eyes14:22
ikoniaPici: ;)17:09
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goddardwhats up18:18
goddardanyone home ladies?18:22
PiciUgh. Now poutine is asking me why he was banned.18:58
jpdsIsn't that some Quebec thing?19:00
Picihes a serial troll.19:00
jpdshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine19:01
mneptokhostie ...19:50
Picihm?19:50
mneptokhostie de Crisse en chalice de tabernac.19:52
mneptok(Quebec profanity)19:52
Picioh.19:52
mneptok"The body of Christ in the chalice of the tabernacle."19:53
mneptokwhich roughly translates to &%&^*(&$ &^#*(^$() &$#*($#*&!@) ^$*@*&$19:53
mneptokmost Quebec profqanity is liturgical in nature.19:53
Picimneptok: is there a reason you're talking about it? Maybe I missed something.19:54
h00kubottu: thanks for the friendly reminders!20:10
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:10
h00kbut they're so convenient!20:11
mneptokPici: 12:00 <+jpds> Isn't that some Quebec thing?20:15
IdleOneFrench Canadien cursing is very religious20:15
IdleOnenot to mention whoever wrote that misspelled every word20:17
mneptoki wrote it.20:18
IdleOneheh20:19
* h00k misspells nmeptok20:19
mneptokand fir sure "de" "en" and "tabernac" are correctly spelled.20:19
mneptok*for20:19
IdleOneok. well I don't feel like googling20:19
IdleOnehalf credit to mneptok for swearing half right in French Canadien20:20
mneptokyeah, if i had said "tabarnoche" i'd be swearing in French Canadienne.20:20
IdleOnemneptok: if you like I can msg you and we can do a crash course "Cursing au Quebec"20:22
mneptoki'd rather not. leaving Quebec was one of the happiest days of my life.20:22
IdleOneshame20:22
IdleOnecouldn't of been that bad20:23
mneptok"have been"  :P20:23
* mneptok beeps IdleOne's nose20:23
* IdleOne snotts in mneptok's hand20:23
IdleOne:P20:23
h00kewwwww20:24
mneptokand yes, it was. that province *seriously* needs to stop the kulturkampf20:24
h00kthat wasn't very friendly20:24
IdleOnekulturkampf?20:24
mneptok"culture war"20:24
IdleOnethere is no war, speak french or get out20:24
IdleOneseems reasonable to me20:25
mneptokand that's what i did. and it's why i say it was the happiest day of my life.20:25
mneptokand now i live in New Mexico, where everyone is welcome no matter of Spanish, English, or a First Nations language is what you speak.20:26
mneptoks/of/if/20:26
IdleOneYou know full well having lived in Montreal that you can go anywhere and not speak French in this city and get along just fine20:26
mneptoknot true. but it's a pretty lie.20:27
IdleOneI guess we lived in a different Montreal20:27
mneptoki had Metro workers tell me to speak French when i informed them a drug addict was panhandling inside Lionel-Groulx.20:28
IdleOneShould of told a cop20:28
mneptoki told the ticket kiosk attendant20:29
IdleOneI will admit that the Public transport employees are...separatists20:29
IdleOneSo yeah that doesn't surprise me20:30
mneptokand "you need to choose to whom you report unsavory behavior, because some people will help, and some will become culturally self-superior" is one of the reasons i left, and would not recommend Quebec to Anglophones.20:30
IdleOnemneptok: maybe for me it is different because I grew up here and speak both French and English20:31
IdleOneSo I have rose colored glasses on?20:31
IdleOnewho knows20:31
mneptokIdleOne: come visit Albuquerque and see the relations between Hispanics (who have been in New Mexico *far* longer than the French have been in Quebec) and Anglos.20:32
IdleOneWhen I lived in PA I had a little bit of a hard time adjusting. I ended up having to learn Spanish :)20:32
IdleOnemneptok: I KNOW I would adjust fine to new Mexico or any other city in the world20:33
IdleOneNew Mexico*20:33
IdleOnebeing able to speak four languages gives me an edge :)20:33
mneptoki have no doubt of that. i'm just saying that people get along here without having to have laws and language police.20:34
mneptokin fact, laws and language police would hurt the situation.20:34
IdleOnemneptok: You wont like this but the reason for that is in the US (not all of it of course) the people lose their heritage and become Americanized.20:34
IdleOneMy family is proof20:35
macoIdleOne: like what the french want over their way?20:35
* maco wanders back out20:35
IdleOnemy kids are first generation Americans and they don't speak any Italian or French :(20:35
mneptokIdleOne: you can't lose what you hold in your hand, unless you *want* to lose it.20:35
IdleOnemneptok: agreed. Had I spoke to my kids in other languages besides English maybe they would of learned20:36
mneptokIdleOne: as an example, there are no laws forbidding you from teaching your children any language you please, or sending them to any school you want.20:36
* maco wishes mum had spoken russian to her as a kid20:37
IdleOnemneptok: Please don't get me wrong. I am not a separatist and I believe that parents should be able to send their children to English school if they want but at the same time this is where I live now and I am just trying to do the best I can with what I got20:37
mneptoknow, in Quebec, where your children are educated and in what language is not a choice left to the parents. it's a government decision.20:38
IdleOneSo you are telling me that in New Mexico you can send your children to Spanish speaking school and that is ok?20:38
mneptokIdleOne: i don't misinterpret. and given the attitude of the younger generation in Quebec, i think things will improve. we just have to wait for the Quiet Revolution generation to die.20:38
mneptokIdleOne: sure is.20:39
IdleOneThat is awesome20:39
IdleOneI don't know if that is allowed in PA, never looked into it20:39
mneptokthe US has no official language20:39
IdleOneI know20:39
IdleOnebut English is the predominant schooling language I would think20:39
mneptokspeak what you please. but if it's not English or Spanish, things might get difficult.20:40
macoIdleOne: PA has bilingual schools20:40
IdleOneMy children would be allowed to attend English school here in Quebec because I was allowed to20:41
macoIdleOne: my neighbor taught at a spanish magnet school. there's also montessori schools which teach in various languages (depending which one you're near)20:41
macoi think theres a french montessori in dc20:41
IdleOnemaco: I was thinking more state funded schools, not private20:42
IdleOneand also not bilingual20:42
macooh20:42
macoi doubt PA has a large enough non-english population for that20:42
macowell20:42
IdleOnethat would be placing your child at a disadvantage imo. sending your kid to a non english school that is20:42
macomaybe in eastern PA, german20:42
IdleOneanyway I do agree with mneptok that the law here in Quebec is wrong. Forcing immigrants to attend French school :/20:43
mneptokIdleOne: my wife worked at a lab that employed native Chinese. their first language was Mandarin, but they spoke English. but because their *first* language was not English, their children had to go to French schools, and the parents couldn't understand anything the teachers told them, and could not help their children with their studies. that's messed up.20:51
IdleOnemneptok: yup20:52
IdleOneand wrong I know20:52
mneptoklike i said, the younger generations get it. things will improve as the militant Quebecois die off.20:53
ubottuIn ubottu, IdleOne said: nickserv is After you have registered see !register You will need to identify to Nickserv by typing " /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD " without the quotes. Replace PASSWORD with the password you chose when registering your nick. More help in #freenode.20:54
* jpds adjusts the topic of #ubuntu+1.21:59
* h00k notes not to upgrade his laptop22:02
macoIdleOne:  hey canadian: http://notalwaysright.com/its-all-dutch-to-me/580822:24
funkyHat⢁D22:31
IdleOnemaco: you realize that is an American trying to use Canadian dollars?22:32
IdleOne:)22:32
macoIdleOne: yes, apparently you canadians own the rest of the world22:33
IdleOnebecause his friend told him they use Canadian dollars outside the US22:33
IdleOneheh22:33
IdleOneWe are happy with our frozen polar bear infested tundra22:33
IdleOnethat reminds me. I'm late for my hockey practice :P22:33

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