[01:33] <Pici> interesting.
[01:34] <h00k> that was interesting
[01:35] <IdleOne> how so?
[01:35] <IdleOne> made me a little sleepy with all the zeds
[01:35] <IdleOne> or zees
[01:35] <IdleOne> however you pronouce it
[01:36] <IdleOne> s/you/YOU
[01:38] <h00k> Yew
[01:38] <IdleOne> Mii?
[01:39] <IdleOne> nau iu
[06:30] <Flannel> ubottu: tell XFGoldenBBL about scope
[06:31] <Flannel> Howdy XFGoldenBBL
[06:31] <XFGoldenBBL> Meh :p
[06:31] <Flannel> How can we help you today?
[06:32] <XFGoldenBBL> let ubottu tel me about !oldster :p
[06:32] <XFGoldenBBL> I'm a little sudsy right now just having a jab
[07:29] <ts2> sounds like something more suited for the wiki
[07:30] <Flannel> I think he's just looking to add *something*, so he made up a factoid about a random thing I'm not sure we've ever had a support request for
[07:31] <Flannel> Ah, he asked a question about it earlier
[07:32] <ts2> it's a rather unused thing, not many people woild need remote access to (raw) SCSI
[07:32] <ts2> unless you wantet to burn a CD to a remote system or something
[09:35] <bazhang> getting pretty tense in -ot
[09:38] <ikonia> can you clam it a little ? (does it need it ?)
[09:39] <ikonia> what was the topic ?
[09:39] <bazhang> spaceghost and rww getting into it
[09:42] <ikonia> did it need to be "stopped" or just calme down (I've not read the topic they where talking about )
[09:43] <bazhang> well they've both been asked to stop the insults, but continued nonetheless. Just petty stuff, back and forth
[09:43] <ikonia> Hmmmm
[09:48] <elky> next time, i kind of suggest giving spaceghost a time-out.
[09:48] <bazhang> I concur. He was instigating it all the way.
[09:49] <ikonia> he always does
[09:49] <elky> knowingly walking the line /is/ baiting.
[09:49] <bazhang> he even said so directly
[09:49] <elky> proudly.
[10:11] <Tm_T> hi, anyone had contacts from mr Martiini ?
[10:11] <ikonia> why do I know that nick ?
[10:11] <jpds> ikonia: He was here a few days ago.
[10:12] <ikonia> ah, nope not had anything direct from him
[10:12] <bazhang> used to troll M yrrti in -ot
[10:12] <bazhang> Tm_T, he was in #kubuntu earlier today
[10:13] <Tm_T> he's been silent, good
[10:13] <bazhang> far as I saw, yep
[10:13] <Tm_T> ok, if no pm from him or other incidents, alls fine I guess (:
[10:14] <Tm_T> FYI he has some kind of quest against me so he might be trouble in channels too
[10:14] <ikonia> delightful
[10:14] <Tm_T> its ok as long as he leaves others alone
[10:39] <ikonia> from now on - no-more crap in #ubuntu-offtopic - there are other channels to behave like children in
[10:40] <ikonia> you want to make poopy jokes, or porn gags, it's else where
[10:43] <gord> ikonia, do you really want to be having this discussion "in" -ot?
[10:43] <ikonia> partly yes,
[10:44] <ikonia> as I'm tired of the childish behaviour and hey I'll mention porn to get s shock style attitude
[10:44] <ikonia> it's discussion channel, not a zoo or a play pen for children
[10:46] <gord> i don't think you can make that broad statement for everyone
[10:46] <ikonia> it's not everyone,
[10:46] <ikonia> but from a personal point of view, I'm going to stop the dribble in there
[10:46] <ikonia> it begins now
[10:47] <gord> thats not an op's job
[10:47] <ikonia> you want to make your random porn comment to shock - do it elsewhere
[10:47] <ikonia> gord: by dribble I mean the little comments liek Ginbun2
[10:47] <ikonia> offtopic conversation is what it's about
[10:47] <gord> thats a little heavy handed ikonia
[10:48] <ikonia> yes, it probably is
[10:48] <Tm_T> gord: I would gladly welcome any soft way to keep -ot in sane order
[10:49] <gord> honestly it just comes down to participation. if you want -ot to be more grown up you have to steer it that way. yelling at people and waving the authority flag isn't going to help anyone. its just going to get people riled up
[10:49] <Tm_T> gord: agreed on that
[10:50] <bazhang> not everyone lives in there though. sometimes just stopping by, and one can't help but comment
[10:50] <ikonia> gord: it's pretty hard to particiapate in conversation that is basically poppy head, lol, random words,
[10:50] <Tm_T> but also not showing where's the limit when it's obviously crossed wont help any (:
[10:50] <ikonia> I plan to be a lot more active in -offtopic now
[11:19] <bazhang> thanks knome
[11:19] <knome> bazhang, no problemos
[11:19] <knome> nikolam is a regular, not usually any problems
[11:19] <bazhang> yep seen him before, bit odd today is all
[11:20] <knome> yeah
[11:20] <knome> only recently came online, so didn't see the whole conversation
[11:20] <bazhang> didn't miss a thing
[11:20] <knome> heh:)
[11:21] <bazhang> :)
[13:56] <Pici> AlvinGreene was trolling #freenode and possible ##linux earlier, keeping an eye on him in -offtopic right now.
[13:57] <ikonia> cool
[14:09] <Pici> and... banned.
[14:22] <ikonia> good eyes
[17:09] <ikonia> Pici: ;)
[18:18] <goddard> whats up
[18:22] <goddard> anyone home ladies?
[18:58] <Pici> Ugh. Now poutine is asking me why he was banned.
[19:00] <jpds> Isn't that some Quebec thing?
[19:00] <Pici> hes a serial troll.
[19:01] <jpds> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
[19:50] <mneptok> hostie ...
[19:50] <Pici> hm?
[19:52] <mneptok> hostie de Crisse en chalice de tabernac.
[19:52] <mneptok> (Quebec profanity)
[19:52] <Pici> oh.
[19:53] <mneptok> "The body of Christ in the chalice of the tabernacle."
[19:53] <mneptok> which roughly translates to &%&^*(&$ &^#*(^$() &$#*($#*&!@) ^$*@*&$
[19:53] <mneptok> most Quebec profqanity is liturgical in nature.
[19:54] <Pici> mneptok: is there a reason you're talking about it? Maybe I missed something.
[20:10] <h00k> ubottu: thanks for the friendly reminders!
[20:11] <h00k> but they're so convenient!
[20:15] <mneptok> Pici: 12:00 <+jpds> Isn't that some Quebec thing?
[20:15] <IdleOne> French Canadien cursing is very religious
[20:17] <IdleOne> not to mention whoever wrote that misspelled every word
[20:18] <mneptok> i wrote it.
[20:19] <IdleOne> heh
[20:19]  * h00k misspells nmeptok
[20:19] <mneptok> and fir sure "de" "en" and "tabernac" are correctly spelled.
[20:19] <mneptok> *for
[20:19] <IdleOne> ok. well I don't feel like googling
[20:20] <IdleOne> half credit to mneptok for swearing half right in French Canadien
[20:20] <mneptok> yeah, if i had said "tabarnoche" i'd be swearing in French Canadienne.
[20:22] <IdleOne> mneptok: if you like I can msg you and we can do a crash course "Cursing au Quebec"
[20:22] <mneptok> i'd rather not. leaving Quebec was one of the happiest days of my life.
[20:22] <IdleOne> shame
[20:23] <IdleOne> couldn't of been that bad
[20:23] <mneptok> "have been"  :P
[20:23]  * mneptok beeps IdleOne's nose
[20:23]  * IdleOne snotts in mneptok's hand
[20:23] <IdleOne> :P
[20:24] <h00k> ewwwww
[20:24] <mneptok> and yes, it was. that province *seriously* needs to stop the kulturkampf
[20:24] <h00k> that wasn't very friendly
[20:24] <IdleOne> kulturkampf?
[20:24] <mneptok> "culture war"
[20:24] <IdleOne> there is no war, speak french or get out
[20:25] <IdleOne> seems reasonable to me
[20:25] <mneptok> and that's what i did. and it's why i say it was the happiest day of my life.
[20:26] <mneptok> and now i live in New Mexico, where everyone is welcome no matter of Spanish, English, or a First Nations language is what you speak.
[20:26] <mneptok> s/of/if/
[20:26] <IdleOne> You know full well having lived in Montreal that you can go anywhere and not speak French in this city and get along just fine
[20:27] <mneptok> not true. but it's a pretty lie.
[20:27] <IdleOne> I guess we lived in a different Montreal
[20:28] <mneptok> i had Metro workers tell me to speak French when i informed them a drug addict was panhandling inside Lionel-Groulx.
[20:28] <IdleOne> Should of told a cop
[20:29] <mneptok> i told the ticket kiosk attendant
[20:29] <IdleOne> I will admit that the Public transport employees are...separatists
[20:30] <IdleOne> So yeah that doesn't surprise me
[20:30] <mneptok> and "you need to choose to whom you report unsavory behavior, because some people will help, and some will become culturally self-superior" is one of the reasons i left, and would not recommend Quebec to Anglophones.
[20:31] <IdleOne> mneptok: maybe for me it is different because I grew up here and speak both French and English
[20:31] <IdleOne> So I have rose colored glasses on?
[20:31] <IdleOne> who knows
[20:32] <mneptok> IdleOne: come visit Albuquerque and see the relations between Hispanics (who have been in New Mexico *far* longer than the French have been in Quebec) and Anglos.
[20:32] <IdleOne> When I lived in PA I had a little bit of a hard time adjusting. I ended up having to learn Spanish :)
[20:33] <IdleOne> mneptok: I KNOW I would adjust fine to new Mexico or any other city in the world
[20:33] <IdleOne> New Mexico*
[20:33] <IdleOne> being able to speak four languages gives me an edge :)
[20:34] <mneptok> i have no doubt of that. i'm just saying that people get along here without having to have laws and language police.
[20:34] <mneptok> in fact, laws and language police would hurt the situation.
[20:34] <IdleOne> mneptok: You wont like this but the reason for that is in the US (not all of it of course) the people lose their heritage and become Americanized.
[20:35] <IdleOne> My family is proof
[20:35] <maco> IdleOne: like what the french want over their way?
[20:35]  * maco wanders back out
[20:35] <IdleOne> my kids are first generation Americans and they don't speak any Italian or French :(
[20:35] <mneptok> IdleOne: you can't lose what you hold in your hand, unless you *want* to lose it.
[20:36] <IdleOne> mneptok: agreed. Had I spoke to my kids in other languages besides English maybe they would of learned
[20:36] <mneptok> IdleOne: as an example, there are no laws forbidding you from teaching your children any language you please, or sending them to any school you want.
[20:37]  * maco wishes mum had spoken russian to her as a kid
[20:37] <IdleOne> mneptok: Please don't get me wrong. I am not a separatist and I believe that parents should be able to send their children to English school if they want but at the same time this is where I live now and I am just trying to do the best I can with what I got
[20:38] <mneptok> now, in Quebec, where your children are educated and in what language is not a choice left to the parents. it's a government decision.
[20:38] <IdleOne> So you are telling me that in New Mexico you can send your children to Spanish speaking school and that is ok?
[20:38] <mneptok> IdleOne: i don't misinterpret. and given the attitude of the younger generation in Quebec, i think things will improve. we just have to wait for the Quiet Revolution generation to die.
[20:39] <mneptok> IdleOne: sure is.
[20:39] <IdleOne> That is awesome
[20:39] <IdleOne> I don't know if that is allowed in PA, never looked into it
[20:39] <mneptok> the US has no official language
[20:39] <IdleOne> I know
[20:39] <IdleOne> but English is the predominant schooling language I would think
[20:40] <mneptok> speak what you please. but if it's not English or Spanish, things might get difficult.
[20:40] <maco> IdleOne: PA has bilingual schools
[20:41] <IdleOne> My children would be allowed to attend English school here in Quebec because I was allowed to
[20:41] <maco> IdleOne: my neighbor taught at a spanish magnet school. there's also montessori schools which teach in various languages (depending which one you're near)
[20:41] <maco> i think theres a french montessori in dc
[20:42] <IdleOne> maco: I was thinking more state funded schools, not private
[20:42] <IdleOne> and also not bilingual
[20:42] <maco> oh
[20:42] <maco> i doubt PA has a large enough non-english population for that
[20:42] <maco> well
[20:42] <IdleOne> that would be placing your child at a disadvantage imo. sending your kid to a non english school that is
[20:42] <maco> maybe in eastern PA, german
[20:43] <IdleOne> anyway I do agree with mneptok that the law here in Quebec is wrong. Forcing immigrants to attend French school :/
[20:51] <mneptok> IdleOne: my wife worked at a lab that employed native Chinese. their first language was Mandarin, but they spoke English. but because their *first* language was not English, their children had to go to French schools, and the parents couldn't understand anything the teachers told them, and could not help their children with their studies. that's messed up.
[20:52] <IdleOne> mneptok: yup
[20:52] <IdleOne> and wrong I know
[20:53] <mneptok> like i said, the younger generations get it. things will improve as the militant Quebecois die off.
[21:59]  * jpds adjusts the topic of #ubuntu+1.
[22:02]  * h00k notes not to upgrade his laptop
[22:24] <maco> IdleOne:  hey canadian: http://notalwaysright.com/its-all-dutch-to-me/5808
[22:31] <funkyHat> ⢁D
[22:32] <IdleOne> maco: you realize that is an American trying to use Canadian dollars?
[22:32] <IdleOne> :)
[22:33] <maco> IdleOne: yes, apparently you canadians own the rest of the world
[22:33] <IdleOne> because his friend told him they use Canadian dollars outside the US
[22:33] <IdleOne> heh
[22:33] <IdleOne> We are happy with our frozen polar bear infested tundra
[22:33] <IdleOne> that reminds me. I'm late for my hockey practice :P