| newz2000 | hey stas, I just talked to akgraner about the fridge... | 18:44 |
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| newz2000 | apparently she was in the process of having someone create a new theme for the fridge (from scratch) | 18:44 |
| newz2000 | so I redirected her so that she'll use the community theme | 18:44 |
| newz2000 | she's going to give us some ideas of what she wants. She may know someone who wants to help. | 18:45 |
| newz2000 | I'm going to let you lead that show, though. | 18:45 |
| newz2000 | (because you're doing such a good job) | 18:45 |
| newz2000 | I think she'll be in touch tomorrow | 18:46 |
| mhall119 | what does fridge run? | 18:47 |
| jpds | mhall119: Drupal if I recall correctly. | 18:48 |
| newz2000 | we're switching them to wp soon | 18:49 |
| mhall119 | ah, ok | 18:53 |
| mhall119 | so, note the one I'm working on | 18:53 |
| newz2000 | ubuntu-website is down to 12 new bugs and 138 total open. | 19:09 |
| * newz2000 wonders if he can get that down to under 100 today and still do his other tasks | 19:09 | |
| mhall119 | I have some changes to default.css, where should I propose those? | 19:15 |
| mhall119 | or should I just seem the separate? | 19:16 |
| mhall119 | it's gonna be 13 new bugs in a minute... | 19:27 |
| mhall119 | newz2000: should bugs for the new theme be registered to the ubuntu-website project? | 19:28 |
| mhall119 | nevermind, I went ahead and created the bug, made the fix, pushed it and proposed the merge | 20:04 |
| stas | btw, I'm still working on wordpress theme, now sidebars and widget areas are ready | 20:10 |
| stas | I just wanted to mention that I found some css errors and a suggestion | 20:10 |
| stas | currently the font sizes are messed, part of them are in '%' other is in 'em' | 20:11 |
| stas | I suggest using only one measurement unit | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I noticed that too | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | 100% sometimes, 0.75em at others | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | though I think the 100% was just to reset | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | are there non-100% instances? | 20:12 |
| stas | not sure, but anyway typography can be improved in basic template | 20:42 |
| stas | in wordpress theme I'm using from 80% - 120% I think | 20:43 |
| stas | also there's an error with some value with comma witch should be dot | 20:43 |
| stas | forgot where exactly I spotted | 20:44 |
| mhall119 | did you correct it? | 20:50 |
| mhall119 | if so, bzr diff should show it | 20:50 |
| stas | nope, I'm using basic theme only for visual roadmap, the css code is useless since I'm using a theme framework | 20:54 |
| stas | I got a problem, I don't know what to do with the footer and asides[1-3] | 20:55 |
| stas | http://ubuntuone.com/p/7GT/ | 20:55 |
| stas | in basic template there are 6 asides which is too much afaik | 20:55 |
| stas | this means I will have to add 6 widgets only to get the asides included | 20:56 |
| knome | stas, just use a custom built widget, which allows multiple same widgets to be included | 20:57 |
| knome | :P | 20:57 |
| stas | knome: yeah, I was thinking about it, and leave the user to add 6 (lets say) text widgets to mimic the content from basic theme? | 20:58 |
| knome | why not, if the content is not something you can predict anyway. | 20:58 |
| * stas zomg, I wish a designer could code this css instead of me :) | 20:59 | |
| knome | hah | 20:59 |
| knome | :) | 20:59 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I didn't even have to worry about those for the Django template | 20:59 |
| stas | knome: ok, I was just saying that adding widget areas are like placeholders | 20:59 |
| stas | :) | 20:59 |
| knome | i can do that if you promise me canonical pays for it ;) | 20:59 |
| stas | knome: you speak like canonical pays me for that :) | 21:00 |
| knome | i don't. :) | 21:00 |
| knome | i'm just not putting my stick into that project without money | 21:00 |
| knome | glad you are ;) | 21:00 |
| stas | knome: don't make me look sily :P | 21:01 |
| knome | but you are! | 21:01 |
| knome | i mean... ;) | 21:01 |
| * mhall119 is doing this for free | 21:01 | |
| knome | no really, it's not silly, but you just can't jump into *every* project for free :) | 21:02 |
| newz2000 | All I can offer is encouragement, hope that will do | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | knome: technically you can | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | look at cjohnston | 21:02 |
| knome | mhall119, i didn't mean that :P | 21:02 |
| knome | mhall119, yeah, he never gets anything done | 21:02 |
| knome | oops | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | you're never gonna get a code review from him now | 21:03 |
| knome | fortunately i don't need one :P | 21:04 |
| mhall119 | I do | 21:05 |
| knome | then take the oil out and be ready to rub his back when he returns online | 21:05 |
| mhall119 | eeewwww | 21:05 |
| knome | well that was what i thought you were describing | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | I'll just say I won't do a User Day or Django class until he does it | 21:06 |
| knome | "you have to rub his/her back so he can do things for you" | 21:06 |
| knome | and "he/she won't do anything for you if you're not nice to him/her" :P | 21:06 |
| * mhall119 prefers the stick method | 21:06 | |
| knome | stick... in the back? | 21:07 |
| mhall119 | wherever it hurts | 21:07 |
| knome | well i'm sure a stick would hurt in your... back | 21:07 |
| * mhall119 wouldn't know | 21:07 | |
| * knome *cough* neither | 21:07 | |
| * mhall119 wasn't judging | 21:08 | |
| knome | hehe :) | 21:08 |
| * stas back | 21:08 | |
| mhall119 | whatever compiles your code, so to speak | 21:08 |
| knome | well definitely not a stick on my back :| | 21:08 |
| knome | it might be compulsory, even if it wouldn't compile your code, much like using "use strict" in perl | 21:09 |
| stas | knome: money can be a good motivation, but there's something even better, like community response and respect | 21:09 |
| * mhall119 never uses strict | 21:09 | |
| knome | stas, definitely. that's why i work on other things open source | 21:09 |
| stas | with ubuntu-website or without them I would have to update my wordpress-loco project its just a matter of time | 21:09 |
| knome | mhall119, eww! your code stays far away from my pc | 21:10 |
| MTecknology | newz2000: hey- sorry about not doing anything with the Drupal theme yet - We'll be getting involved heavily (i think) pretty shortly. One of our old buddies is coming back. | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | knome: I won't be kept down by "the man" (Larry Wall) | 21:10 |
| knome | bah | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | my code is free spirited, it does what it wants | 21:10 |
| knome | yeah | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | even if that mean pooping on your lawn | 21:10 |
| knome | the only "spirit" that can be found in this apartment is rum | 21:10 |
| knome | ;) | 21:10 |
| stas | knome: btw, what are the projects you're involved into? | 21:10 |
| MTecknology | How are the branches set up? | 21:10 |
| stas | MTecknology: I think wildly :) I mean nothing is stable and accepted for sure yet | 21:11 |
| MTecknology | oh | 21:11 |
| knome | stas, until recently i was the xubuntu marketing lead (did the artwork from jaunty->karmic(lucid)), now i'm just involving random stuff and running the shimmer project (http://shimmerproject.org/), which also somewhat relates to ubuntu | 21:11 |
| newz2000 | MTecknology: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website there is a series for drupal. I'd check it out and put your code there, then propose for merging | 21:11 |
| mhall119 | MTecknology: there are framework-specific branches under lp:ubuntu-website/ | 21:12 |
| mhall119 | and also the base release | 21:13 |
| stas | knome: I see, good luck with it btw | 21:13 |
| MTecknology | What I wwas referring to is how they branch off of each other - because the base thme is what the other themes should branch from | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | so far, when I have a change to the default.css or base HTML, I propose them back into light-base-theme as well as light-django-theme | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | MTecknology: they are separate branches | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | as far as I know | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | light-django-theme definitely is | 21:14 |
| MTecknology | yucky.. | 21:14 |
| mhall119 | not based on light-base-theme | 21:14 |
| stas | MTecknology: it depends, I can't use base css as I said, I'm working with a framework | 21:14 |
| knome | stas, thanks :) | 21:14 |
| knome | stas, but as i said, i'm still involved in random ubuntu stuff :) | 21:15 |
| mhall119 | and we can't share index.html, because each has to change it to work in their framework | 21:15 |
| knome | stas, (that's why i'm still here) | 21:15 |
| stas | knome: you mentioned xubuntu, do you know janimo or had the chance to meet him? :) | 21:15 |
| mhall119 | knome: btw, the Xubuntu artwork for 9.10 was nice | 21:15 |
| knome | stas, no, only know him by name | 21:15 |
| knome | mhall119, thanks | 21:16 |
| stas | knome: he's one of the guys who introduced me to ubuntu :) | 21:16 |
| stas | we meet from time to time here in romania | 21:16 |
| knome | i joined the project after he had left | 21:16 |
| mhall119 | I used Xubuntu as a base for Qimo | 21:16 |
| stas | knome: he has or will have soon a baby afaik :) | 21:17 |
| mhall119 | it's good | 21:17 |
| knome | heh, congrats for him if you see him | 21:17 |
| knome | mhall119, xubuntu or qimo? ;) | 21:17 |
| mhall119 | knome: well, both, but I was specifically referring to Xubuntu | 21:17 |
| stas | will do :) | 21:17 |
| mhall119 | I congratulate myself in private ;) | 21:17 |
| knome | mhall119, plese don't tell more about that handshaking | 21:18 |
| stas | newz2000: hows the new job? :) | 21:18 |
| MTecknology | So each branch is intended to pretty much be it's own complete project but all held in one parent? | 21:20 |
| mhall119 | seems that way | 21:21 |
| MTecknology | alrighty | 21:21 |
| mhall119 | I don't think that's on purpose though | 21:22 |
| stas | so back to my question, how should I format my footer? | 21:22 |
| mhall119 | if you can think of a better arrangement, I'd be happy to change | 21:22 |
| stas | not sure but I think loco websites ain't gonna use 'Privacy' and 'Legal' in footer | 21:23 |
| MTecknology | mhall119: nah- makes things easier for me | 21:23 |
| stas | so I can reduce that block to a text widget | 21:23 |
| mhall119 | I just make 3 unlabeled footer blocks | 21:23 |
| stas | mhall119: ok | 21:23 |
| mhall119 | not sure how that translates into Wordpress | 21:23 |
| stas | mhall119: I got you :) | 21:24 |
| newz2000 | stas: great. My new boss rocks. Gives me plenty of notice on new work. | 22:10 |
| newz2000 | stas: speaking of time, did you finish your terms / finals? | 22:10 |
| stas | newz2000: great :) | 22:11 |
| stas | about exams, almost, didnt get some of them, but its not like I would care too much :) | 22:11 |
| newz2000 | so now you get to take a break for a couple months? | 22:12 |
| stas | why should i? :) | 22:12 |
| stas | my last weeks were all only wordpress, coding for gsoc and here, which I'm more proud of | 22:12 |
| stas | compared to exam results | 22:12 |
| MTecknology | mhall119: had issues - 3 new bugs filed in launchpad... | 22:15 |
| MTecknology | mhall119: I proposed the branch for merging | 22:15 |
| stas | btw, newz2000 did you find the man who will take the place of your old job? | 22:15 |
| MTecknology | me! | 22:15 |
| newz2000 | not yet, exec's still deciding on the job description and if they need to be in London or remote is OK | 22:15 |
| mhall119 | MTecknology: which bugs? | 22:17 |
| stas | i'm eager to meet our new coordinator :P | 22:17 |
| MTecknology | mhall119: just a few lifeless and I picked up in the merge proposal process | 22:17 |
| newz2000 | stas: I think it will still be me | 22:18 |
| mhall119 | MTecknology: on ubuntu-website? | 22:18 |
| stas | newz2000: than I'm cool :) | 22:18 |
| MTecknology | mhall119: ya - they're filed in launchpad-code - I just took a cheap back door that won't break things down the road :) | 22:19 |
| mhall119 | oh, in the drupal theme project | 22:19 |
| MTecknology | they're bugs in the launchpad code - nothing to do w/ the projects | 22:19 |
| mhall119 | oh, ok | 22:20 |
| mhall119 | MTecknology: merging | 22:25 |
| mhall119 | and with that, I'm off for the night | 22:25 |
| MTecknology | mhall119: g'night | 22:28 |
| stas | mhall119: night | 22:30 |
| stas | newz2000: I got an idea. wordpress allows you to export/import backups easily | 23:25 |
| stas | maybe we should create a website skeleton | 23:25 |
| newz2000 | stas: that's a good idea | 23:25 |
| stas | and provide the xml file as a startup package | 23:25 |
| stas | this way all the webpages are created, it will require only the content to be added | 23:25 |
| newz2000 | yeah, good plan | 23:26 |
| newz2000 | stas: are you targeting wp 3.x? | 23:26 |
| stas | yep | 23:26 |
| newz2000 | Will this work with 2.9? | 23:26 |
| stas | except menus yes | 23:26 |
| knome | stas, is there huge changes from 2.9.x to 3.x ? | 23:26 |
| newz2000 | will it work with 2.8? | 23:26 |
| stas | I mean it still can fallback to plain lists (ul/ol li) | 23:27 |
| stas | newz2000: also should | 23:27 |
| newz2000 | the reason I ask is that many locos have canonical hosted services and I'm sure they're not the latest version | 23:27 |
| newz2000 | (though I'm equally sure they're at least 2.8) | 23:27 |
| stas | basically the menus in the header are generated using two widgets,so what lists you add there, those will be printed | 23:27 |
| stas | knome: yes, a lot of improvements | 23:28 |
| stas | a lot of api goodness, and easier management of content | 23:28 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 23:28 |
| stas | basically wordpress starting from 3.x is a cmf | 23:28 |
| stas | drupal now has a real competitor | 23:29 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 23:29 |
| newz2000 | I think 3.x needs to be 3.1 for that to happen | 23:29 |
| knome | did they already melt the wpmu code back to wp? | 23:29 |
| stas | i'm almost sure it will get updated in a month after release | 23:29 |
| stas | knome: yep | 23:30 |
| * newz2000 hopes the multi-site feature gets a big revamp | 23:30 | |
| newz2000 | I wrote a commercial content management system before coming to Canonical | 23:30 |
| newz2000 | wp needs to use our multi-site feature because the mu stuff is bad | 23:30 |
| knome | stas, okay, then i'm kind of waiting for that, but also afraid of that – i'm running rpmu right noe.. | 23:30 |
| knome | newz2000, bad as in? | 23:30 |
| newz2000 | so fragile | 23:31 |
| stas | newz2000: did you write it above wordpress ? | 23:31 |
| newz2000 | it was completely separate product, not related to wp at all | 23:31 |
| stas | ah I see | 23:31 |
| newz2000 | it would be a very invasive change to wp though | 23:31 |
| stas | not that it is in core, wpmu will get much more attention hopefully | 23:31 |
| stas | now* | 23:32 |
| * stas sleepy :) | 23:32 | |
| stas | http://ubuntuone.com/p/7HS/ we got the slider :) | 23:32 |
| newz2000 | good night stas, thanks for your work | 23:33 |
| stas | np :) | 23:33 |
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