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| leonel | Hello .. How can I tell ubuntuone to NOT get connected when I logon to my desktop ? | 02:56 |
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| duanedesign | good morning U1inites | 10:40 |
| mkarnicki | morning duanedesign | 10:43 |
| kermiac | can someone please take a look at bug 589818 - the OP is unsuccessfully trying to sync approx 4500 files (paid account) | 11:04 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 589818 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "High processor load for ubuntuone-syncdaemon (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589818 | 11:04 |
| rye | kermiac, hm, syncdaemon will be extremely busy on startup reading a) metadata b) checking whether directories changed and querying the server about that, as far as i can tell | 11:09 |
| kermiac | hello rye :) - yeah, I couldn't see anything that was obvious in the logs :( | 11:10 |
| rye | 2010-06-13 13:06:30,048 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER' (queues WORKING_ON_BOTH connection 'With User With Network')>; queues: metadata: 197; content: 4022; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=295826 miss=15769) ---- | 11:10 |
| rye | suggests that he has 197 metadata entries to go and 4022 content items were not yet uploaded | 11:11 |
| kermiac | yup, so it's still processing. I know the service has sped up a *lot* but they are trying to sync a *lot* of files | 11:12 |
| kermiac | and if I understand them correctly, they keep stopping the service, so it will begin doing the server rescan stuff again when they next reboot or re-enable the syndaemon | 11:13 |
| kermiac | rye: would you suggest that I ask them to leave the PC on & explain that the process of syncing 4500 files will take some time & point them to your u1sdtool wiki page if they wish to check on the sync progress? | 11:15 |
| rye | kermiac, i will create 4500 files now and see how that works. It definitely is not good with 30k files but with 4k it needs a better look into | 11:16 |
| kermiac | ok, thanks rye :) | 11:16 |
| rye | + 3900 files so i now going to sync 5000 files. fire extinguisher is ready | 11:19 |
| kermiac | haha :) | 11:20 |
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| thecondor | Hi! Just a little question I couldn't find an answer for: does anybody know, whether there is a broken download problem with WinXP IE, when trying to download big files published via UbuntuOne? A friend of mine, who is using internet explorer I guess, is just getting corrupt files. Same files downloaded here with ubuntu/firefox are fine. | 13:06 |
| thecondor | honk | 13:06 |
| beuno | thecondor, that's super odd | 13:08 |
| beuno | I wouldn't expect files to be currupt on IE | 13:08 |
| thecondor | Hi beuno. Yes it's oddset. | 13:08 |
| beuno | does he by any chanve have a non-sensitive file he can download and send us to inspect? | 13:08 |
| thecondor | This would be the next test. Sadly i cannot reach him atm. | 13:09 |
| thecondor | Just wanted to know whether other users might have experienced similar issues.. or recommending firefox e.g. | 13:10 |
| thecondor | I think he told me | 13:12 |
| thecondor | ..something like 'all files downloaded have same checksum and cannot be unzipped' | 13:13 |
| thecondor | (Should be different sized working zip files i uploaded. Strange.) | 13:13 |
| rye | thecondor, hmmmm | 13:14 |
| * rye fires his expired trial copy of win7 | 13:15 | |
| thecondor | I guess it could be helpful to get more info bout the files he downloaded.. but i cannot reach him. | 13:16 |
| thecondor | Shall i make a test upload with non sensitive data for you to download? | 13:17 |
| jdobrien | g-morning ubuntu oners | 13:19 |
| thecondor | G-morning jdobrien | 13:21 |
| thecondor | @rye: test upload for you in progress | 13:22 |
| rye | looks like my libvirt/apport is somehow broken now, brb | 13:31 |
| nisshh | CardinalFang: hey, id like to code a function into my app that can tell when desktopcouch is being synced by U1 and when its not, are you able to help me out? | 13:48 |
| CardinalFang | nisshh, I have planned some DBus signals that your app could listen for. This isn't on the 10.10 roadmap, though, so I won't be working on it, but I can review and merge code you supply. | 13:53 |
| rye | beuno, hm, i picked up random link - http://ubuntuone.com/p/2Di and it does not open in IE but it opens fine in Firefox in Windows. Not really a corruption but something is really broken there | 13:56 |
| CardinalFang | nisshh, so, these signals I have planned are not *exactly* what you're looking for. You need a state variable that the signals toggle, and at startup your app doesn't know the current state, but it's the cleanest thing I can think of, at present. | 13:57 |
| beuno | rye, that's intersting. Can you file the bug? | 13:58 |
| thecondor | Wrong http headers? | 13:58 |
| thecondor | Another test: http://ubuntuone.com/p/7ED/ | 13:59 |
| thecondor | Should be 40.4 MB | 13:59 |
| thecondor | Thx, rye and beuno, i will mail my friend he shall try firefox for the moment. | 14:02 |
| rye | thecondor, hmmmm that file is downloadable via IE | 14:03 |
| thecondor | Oh | 14:03 |
| rye | thecondor, the question is now whether checksum matches | 14:03 |
| thecondor | Now i'm baffled. | 14:03 |
| thecondor | A sec.. | 14:04 |
| rye | thecondor, looks like not - 7zip could not open that file | 14:04 |
| thecondor | Should be: f0f9e7685c5a00f12a01a38c46d6c486 for beryll.avi.zip | 14:06 |
| thecondor | Filesize 42,331,421 bytes | 14:07 |
| thecondor | Standard zirpel created from nautilus | 14:07 |
| thecondor | -zirpel +zip | 14:07 |
| thecondor | Rye, what did u get with firefox/ie, speaking of filesize/md5? | 14:12 |
| rye | thecondor, still trying to get that file out of that win instance | 14:12 |
| thecondor | Ok | 14:12 |
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| rye | thecondor, fda01bd702b248dc06263e4e5e67d500 | 14:16 |
| rye | thecondor, d/ling w/ ff now | 14:16 |
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| thecondor | Wow, maybe zip files get re-compressed when uploading to U1... really dont hope so. | 14:18 |
| rye | thecondor, hm, ie's version is actually bigger - 42,342,089 bytes | 14:18 |
| thecondor | Rye, what a messe | 14:19 |
| thecondor | Additional data? Where did it can fromm? | 14:19 |
| thecondor | Carmen | 14:19 |
| rye | thecondor, the only possible explanation I have is that there is gzip compression | 14:20 |
| thecondor | Sry, typos | 14:20 |
| rye | Content-Encoding: deflate | 14:20 |
| rye | Content-Length: 42342089 | 14:20 |
| rye | yes | 14:20 |
| rye | cool | 14:20 |
| thecondor | Indeed.. thatcher could be. So it might be deflate | 14:20 |
| rye | IE does not support deflating? | 14:21 |
| rye | beuno, ping, it looks like IE does not decompress the deflated stream | 14:21 |
| thecondor | I guess deflate was always trouble making with ie.. because of some weired apache settings on the other end or so. | 14:22 |
| thecondor | I remember i had to remove deflate from apache often, when i was a lamp admin and php dev. | 14:23 |
| thecondor | ..or its some kind of missing x-handler directive for gz or so. | 14:30 |
| nisshh | CardinalFang: sorry i was afk for a while, yes so dbus sounds good, but i suppose my app could find out the current state easily enough, id be happy to contribute code, although i havent done anything with dbus at all and im a pretty noobish programmer still, be aware that this is just an idea i had, i dont even know if ill implement it or not. | 14:34 |
| CardinalFang | nisshh, DBus isn't very tough, especially signals. I'll be here if you have questions. | 14:35 |
| nisshh | CardinalFang: ok, thanks | 14:35 |
| rye | i nearly know why it could not display that web page then... because jpeg stream was damaged according to IE... | 14:36 |
| thecondor | IE sucks so badly.. | 14:37 |
| thecondor | Rye, do you file a bug report for this deflate IE thingy or should i do so? | 14:40 |
| rye | thecondor, i am filing one right now | 14:40 |
| thecondor | Thx very much! I'm outta here then for now.. | 14:41 |
| rye | hm | 14:45 |
| rye | if I pretend to be IE then i get 42331421 bytes content, so it is ok | 14:49 |
| rye | need tcpdumping | 14:50 |
| rye | beuno, it is really some kind of broken browser detection | 14:51 |
| rye | beuno, http://paste.ubuntu.com/450597/ | 14:52 |
| beuno | rye, I'd be surprised if we're doing any kind of browser detection | 14:52 |
| rye | beuno, we do, but for attachment names, not for deflate/not deflate thing. This seems to be dealt with by the frontend servers | 14:53 |
| beuno | rye, hrmf. | 14:55 |
| rye | beuno, frankly speaking - i don't get it :-/ | 15:00 |
| rye | Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate | 15:16 |
| rye | hm, IE says that it wants deflate | 15:17 |
| gnomefreak | when using funambol with thunderbird-3 what would i use for location? | 15:36 |
| beuno | gnomefreak, http://syncml.one.ubuntu.com | 15:36 |
| gnomefreak | beuno: thanks | 15:36 |
| beuno | gnomefreak, have you created the mobile user/pass? | 15:36 |
| gnomefreak | beuno: no im not syncing with a mobile device just to ubuntuone site | 15:37 |
| rye | beuno, our IE support is definitely broken so this is definitely a bug report | 15:38 |
| gnomefreak | i was assuming the user/password would be the one i use to log into ubuntuone site | 15:38 |
| beuno | gnomefreak, no no, you need the mobile user/pass to use funambol | 15:39 |
| beuno | we can't get it to use openid, so we need to generate a special user/pass | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | oh, how do i create one than | 15:39 |
| beuno | rye, thanks | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see anyway to do that in Funambol | 15:40 |
| beuno | gnomefreak, in the web ui | 15:40 |
| beuno | go to contacts | 15:40 |
| beuno | you should have a "set up phone sync" option | 15:40 |
| beuno | I know, this needs to be a bit less confusing :) | 15:41 |
| gnomefreak | beuno: i dont see it. i have "sync all" | 15:41 |
| beuno | gnomefreak, on the website | 15:41 |
| gnomefreak | in the menu there isnt anything like that either | 15:41 |
| beuno | one.ubuntu.com | 15:41 |
| gnomefreak | on | 15:41 |
| gnomefreak | beuno: this is also for the free accounts? | 15:44 |
| beuno | gnomefreak, well, funambol is for paid accounts, you get a 30 day trial | 15:45 |
| beuno | that said | 15:45 |
| beuno | we're going to waive that until Maverick | 15:45 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 15:46 |
| beuno | now that everything is out there and working, we're planning a juicier mobile package | 15:46 |
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| mkarnicki | verterok: Just got up from a nap & doing UML project for tomorrow =_= .. Any news on that Android bug maybe ;_; ? | 21:06 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: hi | 21:12 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: hello | 21:12 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: nope, I think one option is to stop using netty (and probably NIO altogether), in this case of the android client...and use plain old socket + ssl | 21:13 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: that means rewrite part of the protocol client | 21:13 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: ... | 21:14 |
| verterok | but is better than no client at all | 21:14 |
| verterok | :) | 21:14 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: PipeLine factory will suffice? | 21:14 |
| mkarnicki | *pipelinefactory | 21:14 |
| mkarnicki | I mean, that one file where I changed SSL to TLS ? | 21:14 |
| mkarnicki | or there's more to change? | 21:14 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: no, a bit more :) | 21:14 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: not good.. | 21:15 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: that's the pipeline for the RequestHandler, which is a subclass of netty SimpleChannelHandler (or something) | 21:15 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: oh. so it's still netty.. | 21:15 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: the way the client connects to the server needs to be changed | 21:15 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: sorry, I'm still unconsious | 21:15 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: yes, we need to ditch the parent class of the RequestHandler, and implement all the socket handling, protobuf en/decoing, etc using plain-ld sockets | 21:16 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: you can imagine I feel devastaded | 21:16 |
| verterok | *old | 21:16 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: isn't that bad | 21:16 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: I have used sockets before, but 1. not secure ones, 2. not on such level of detail as we probably need | 21:17 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: the client will need to be executed in a different thread, as the old java IO is blocking... | 21:17 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: that's not a problem, I'll make it a service | 21:17 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: with it's own thread | 21:17 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: no need to do that just yet ;) | 21:18 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: let's get it running in a thread, then move it to whatever a service is :) | 21:18 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: brb 1 sec | 21:18 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: I'm back. ok, I'll run it in another thread for now | 21:19 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: if I can help somehow, tell me what I can do (after I finish my stupid college assigmnent) | 21:20 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: simple SSL wiht sockets is quite "simple", it will look like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/450760/ | 21:21 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: aha.. | 21:22 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: if you would just start that, like with handling one request, I could build up on that | 21:22 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: we need to translate some of the stuff in RequestPipelineFactory to blocking IO | 21:22 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: my idea is to keep the rest of the code, that's the mainloop and should handle all requests | 21:23 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: ok then. if you could leave me few pointers on priv, I'll start building on that. actually you already gave me a good start I think. | 21:23 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: I see, good idea | 21:23 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: the wire protocol is: header[4bytes]+message[nbytes] | 21:24 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: the 4 bytes header is the length of the message | 21:24 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: you should take a look to the python implementation, the file is request.py | 21:24 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: I'll try to play a bit tonight, but not sure if I'll be able to get enough time to get somethign working | 21:25 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: got yet another phone call, brb! | 21:25 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: np | 21:25 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: ok, gotcha! I'll read up on that python code. you're already tons of help, so maybe I'll be able to input more on that this time. | 21:30 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: thanks again. and now I have hope again that the project may go on | 21:30 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: I was really upset it could have had really bad impact. I mean it already had, but hell, we've done much job! | 21:31 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: I think I have a partial (no-working) implementation of the code somewhere, before I started with netty...I'll try to find it | 21:31 |
| mkarnicki | aquarius: ^ good news up here. we'll rewrite part of the protocol and not use netty, that will hopefully workaround any Android bugs. | 21:32 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: that would be lovely, if you'll have it around, hit me up with a paste and I'll read up on that, too. thanks!!! | 21:32 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: sure | 21:33 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: we first need to be sure that plain sockets+ssl works on android ;) | 21:33 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: heheh. there was a reply from netty author Tristan, that one guy should use plain (old?) OIO transport - do you know what he meant? | 21:39 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: a reply where? | 21:39 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: I'll dig it up | 21:40 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: yes, plain OIO is the blocking IO | 21:40 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: NIO is the new non-blocking IO | 21:40 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: right, so that e-mail can prove useful. it was on some mailing list | 21:41 |
| * mkarnicki digs it up | 21:41 | |
| mkarnicki | verterok: 2nd mail - I think it's what you suggested, isn't it? http://www.jboss.org/netty/community.html#nabble-td5096427 | 21:42 |
| * verterok reads | 21:42 | |
| verterok | mkarnicki: no, different issue | 21:44 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: but we also got java.net.SocketException: Bad address family - still different issue? | 21:44 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: we got that? | 21:45 |
| mkarnicki | (by we got - I mean running that on Froyo anyway :/ ) | 21:45 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: umm.. yeah, but.. did you get my late msg's yesterday? | 21:45 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: the bug has been fixed in Android 2.2 (sic!) | 21:45 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: but then there was that Bad address family anyway :/ | 21:45 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: we can try to switch the current client to netty's OIO transport | 21:46 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: so no good either | 21:46 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: that would be less changes in the code? | 21:46 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: the issue was with ikvm or something, that compiles java to .net stuff | 21:46 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: it should! | 21:46 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: :) | 21:46 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: http://docs.jboss.org/netty/3.1/guide/html/architecture.html | 21:46 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: search for OIO | 21:46 |
| * mkarnicki reads up | 21:46 | |
| verterok | mkarnicki: actually, read 2.2. Universal Asynchronous I/O API | 21:46 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: yup, right there | 21:48 |
| * mkarnicki reads | 21:48 | |
| mkarnicki | verterok: you know what.. I have this dang assignment waiting for me for tomorrow. I'll do it now and go back to all that OIO stuff, if it's ok with you? | 21:48 |
| verterok | mkarnicki: sure | 21:49 |
| mkarnicki | verterok: ok thanks. I'll let you know, till then. | 21:49 |
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