apacheloggershadeslayer: if you know what dbus does then you about know what qt's signals and slots system does ;)00:00
shadeslayerno idea on dbus too :P00:00
apacheloggerwell then take a look at the intro to signal and slots00:00
lex79apachelogger: I meant, the taskmanager in the panel with only icons is nice, what is it?00:01
apacheloggerlex79: default in 4.5 ;)00:01
apacheloggerit just goes that way when not enough space is there00:01
apacheloggerwhich is a decent thing to do IMHO00:01
lex79oh nice :)00:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: that isnt smooth tasks ? 0_o00:03
apacheloggerthat is the default00:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: hmm... no text? just icons?00:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: if not enough space is available00:04
shadeslayerahh right :)00:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: pokey :_00:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: can you tell me if bug 221979 is still a a problem?00:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221979 in mingw32 (Ubuntu) "Inconsistent snprintf format specification parsing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22197900:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: I do not use mingw00:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: okies :)00:43
apacheloggershadeslayer: you can always try or ask in the bug report ;)00:43
apachelogger493 words on why one would want to engage in openinnovation oh my00:45
* apachelogger seems to be very communicative today ^^00:45
ScottKIf I "zoom out" on my plasma desktop, how do I zoom back in?00:46
lex79apachelogger: ktorrent recommends krosspython is too generous for modax, he would settle on Suggests. Fine for you? if so, we can sync the next release00:46
apacheloggeryes, no, maybe00:48
apacheloggerthing is, I think it is recommends because we install recommends and without recommends the scripting stuff will essentially appear broken to the user00:48
apacheloggerand since we do not want the user to think it is broken it needs to be installed by default, which means it needs to be recommends ;)00:49
lex79well we keep in merge so00:49
apacheloggerScottK: depending on your version you possibly dont ;)00:49
ScottKapachelogger: 4.4.200:50
apacheloggerthat might be the broken version indeed00:50
apacheloggerlex79: supposedly, though one could argue with upstream that they should make the scripts not fall apart and generate useful errors ... which then again leads to the problem that KDE does not have a framework for notifing the user of missing components in a distribution specific manner, so...00:51
shadeslayergood night everyone :)00:51
lex79so we keep in 00:52
lex79recommends and bye bye sync :)00:52
* apachelogger doesnt like syncs anyway00:57
ScottKapachelogger: A related note is that aiui, upstream doesn't have a way to express run time dependencies, just build time requirements.00:58
apacheloggerthe script is broken, so they waste time on our archive admin's schedule ^^00:58
apacheloggerScottK: I imagine expressing runtime deps properly is a bit of a difficult thing anyway00:59
apacheloggeralso since you have that whole recommendation and suggests stuff all over again01:00
apacheloggerlike ktorrent does not depend on krosspython at runtime, it is only necessary to bring ktorrent to its full potential01:00
apacheloggerand then there is stuff where you would need less than that01:00
apacheloggerlike you have Kile and kile supports every browser and pdf viewer on this planet01:01
apacheloggerso what kile would probably need to do is have a list of preferred browser and pdf viewers ordered by kile wanting to use them...01:01
apacheloggeretc. etc. :/01:02
apacheloggervery interesting read01:03
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jefferaishadeslayer_: Heads-up...ISP told me that they're going to be doing network maintenance between 12 and 5am my time (it's 10:35 right now) so the connection may cut out03:34
Riddellanother sunny day09:44
a|wensadly not, here it's all cloudy09:46
NightroseRiddell: your dot editors subscription was just disabled due to  Excessive or fatal bounces.10:05
ghostcubet3h bad10:07
RiddellNightrose: mm, I've been getting a few of those, not sure why10:09
NightroseRiddell: Our system has detected an unusual rate of 550-5.7.1 unsolicited mail10:09
Nightrose   originating from your IP address. To protect our 550-5.7.1 users from spam,10:09
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RiddellNightrose: that's in the bounce?10:11
Nightrosethat was in the email i got yes10:11
a|wenis anyone working on k3b beta4 in maverick ... and do we want to try and get it into lucid-updates?10:28
Riddella|wen: I doubt it'll get into -updates, I expect there's too many changes10:45
Riddellbut do check that for us10:45
a|wenRiddell: the changelog for rc3 looked bugfix-only to me; and according to the email rc4 should be bugfix-only as well10:46
Riddell-updates is stricter than "bugfix" though usually, it's specific verifiable bugs10:48
ScottKNCommander: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50476411/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.4.85-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:49
a|wenRiddell: upgrading to a newer pre-release has happened before, but k3b being in main, I suppose this is a bit stricter ... better to try and get it into -backports?10:51
Riddella|wen: well look at the diff to determine.  does it look like something that can be manually verified?10:52
valorieshadeslayer_: I was going to add the ppa and try to install the kopete gcall thing, but I don't see it here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+packages11:24
valoriethe only kopete package there is a facebook plugin11:25
a|wenRiddell: we'd be talking 20+ bugs to verify; so i guess backports would be the way to go then11:59
Riddellthat's what I thought12:01
RiddellJontheEchidna: do you know what part of the stack is causing bug 586497 ?  reading the bug it's not clear if anyone knows if it's caused by packagekit or apt or what12:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586497 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Lucid) "kpackagekit install security update in automatic mode without authorization" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58649712:04
a|wenare we still using the debian-only bzr branch in kubuntu-members for k3b packaging?12:04
Riddella|wen: since you're packagekit k3b today nobody can answer that except you :)12:07
Riddelltsk, packagekit on the mind12:08
Riddella|wen: since you're packaging k3b today nobody can answer that except you12:08
a|wenheh, true12:08
mfraz74is this the rc4 of K3B?12:09
JontheEchidnaRiddell: kpackagekit, it turns out12:20
RiddellJontheEchidna: oh really?12:21
JontheEchidnaRiddell: as silly as it sounds, yeah12:21
Riddellit does have an "Automaticly Install: Security Updates" option but I thought that was just something passed through to packagekit12:22
JontheEchidnanope :(12:22
JontheEchidnait takes care of the automaticness via the kpackagekit daemon/trayicon thingy12:22
Riddellso we need to patch that bit out?12:24
* a|wen goes filing a bug against k3b beta4 for an error making it fail to compile13:19
txwikingerThe discussion on the MOTU lists explains very much why I have no real motivation to become a MOTU :(13:22
a|wentxwikinger: becoming a MOTU will give you access to help out with all the KDE/Qt programs in universe ... (does kubuntu-dev give access to this?)13:28
txwikingerWell.. IMHO there is a general problem of perception of what it means to get access13:29
txwikingerbeside it shows how people do not understand that some attitudes show an non-welcoming way13:30
txwikingerWhen you are a volunteer you don't have to take it, you can just do something else13:30
ari-tczewtxwikinger: let's stand for to Ubuntu Contributing Developer, then wait some time, keep working and stand for to MOTU13:31
txwikingerari-tczew: No idea what that has to do with my concerns13:31
ari-tczewtxwikinger: next DMB meeting is 22th June, now let's create an application for UUC13:32
ari-tczewin future you'll have a easier way for MOTU13:33
txwikingerari-tczew: 1) I do not want to be MOTU - not because I could not, but because I disagree with the attitude of the vocal minority, 2) I have no idea what UUC is, or why I would want to be one13:34
txwikingerMOTU is not a batch that needs to be achieved to have something to show off13:34
a|wentxwikinger: well, that is exactly the problem, yes ... in general anyone can help to all parts of ubuntu, you just need a sponsor, so becoming a MOTU is just making things simpler for yourself (and release some time with your regular sponsors to do other needed work)13:35
ari-tczewtxwikinger: I don't understand, so what's the problem? do you want to be MOTU? no? if no, we have no reason to talk about it13:36
ari-tczewUUC - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#ContribDev13:36
txwikingerari-tczew: As I said, I have no real motivation to become one13:37
ari-tczewtxwikinger: do you expect that we will encourage you to join MOTU?13:38
txwikingerari-tczew: sorry, but you totally misunderstand my concerns13:39
ari-tczewtxwikinger: That's right.13:39
ari-tczewbut I would help13:39
txwikingerari-tczew: Are you a MOTU? Do you have influence on the MOTUs that do not understand the problem?13:40
ari-tczewtxwikinger: no, I'm not in MOTU. I'm in the half way to become as developer.13:41
ari-tczewtxwikinger: my problem with communication here is language barrier, so maybe this is a reason why I don't understand your problem13:42
JontheEchidnaagateau: I have a sneaking suspicion that bug 589058 may be caused by the global menubar stuff14:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 589058 in virtualbox-ose (Ubuntu) "VM Menu bar not visible in Virtualbox 3.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58905814:04
JontheEchidnaoh, but that's lucid. hrm14:04
JontheEchidnaagateau: un-ping ;)14:04
agateauJontheEchidna: could it be someone running the une ppa?14:05
JontheEchidnaagateau: ah, looks like they're using Qt 4.7 from our KDE 4.5 ppa14:05
JontheEchidnaor at least somebody running maverick is seeing the same issue14:06
JontheEchidnahmm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/589058/comments/814:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 589058 in virtualbox-ose (Ubuntu) "VM Menu bar not visible in Virtualbox 3.2" [Undecided,New]14:06
JontheEchidnalooks like he's trying to run run the maverick package in lucid :s14:07
JontheEchidnabah, that bug is a mess14:07
agateauJontheEchidna: FTR, the une ppa contains a package for qt 4.7, based on the KDE 4.5 ppa, but the version of the package has "appmenu" in it14:07
* Riddell gets exited at the existance of http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/14:18
txwikingerlooks good Riddell14:18
JontheEchidnaFeature tour has some broken links: http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour#feature-tour-apps-games14:20
JontheEchidnawell, broken URIs to images14:21
RiddellJontheEchidna: I pointed that out to ofir, I expect he knows anyway14:22
JontheEchidnaRiddell: ok, cool14:22
JontheEchidnatxwikinger: the thumbnails below the huge images14:23
agateauRiddell: speaking of feature tour,14:23
agateauRiddell: have you seen this: http://blog.lynxworks.eu/20100616/fleshing-out-an-idea ?14:23
agateauTo me it screams either "create a welcome plasmoid" or "add a web view plasmoid with welcoming content"14:24
JontheEchidnaWe could expand the survey plasmoid to be this, perhaps14:24
txwikingeroh yeah I se14:24
Riddellas JontheEchidna says14:25
Riddellwas my thought too14:25
JontheEchidnaHeh, I always like Scott Ritchie's blogs: http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/22514:25
agateauis the survey plasmoid based on html?14:25
Riddellit just points at nixternal's server14:25
agateauI was thinking about shiping the content rather than pointing out though14:26
JontheEchidnaeither would be an option, I would think. We'd just have to make the plasmoid a bit more sophisticated14:27
agateaustaging.w.k.o is very nice btw14:27
JontheEchidnaright now it's iirc just a qwebview, and that's it14:27
agateauI just find the light bubble a bit weird, especially since it's not supposed to have a shadow like that if it's turned on14:28
apparleanyone good with quassel here, I need help14:28
agateauJontheEchidna: could be enough, it just needs to be pointed to some local content with shiny js :)14:28
JontheEchidnawith a link to the survey, and such :)14:28
JontheEchidnabut that way, we don't have to rely on internet-have for the welcome bits14:29
JontheEchidnaI like it14:29
JontheEchidnaagateau: did you get the chance to play around with kapti c++? :D14:30
agateaunot yet :/14:30
agateauJontheEchidna: sorry14:30
JontheEchidnano worries14:30
agateauJontheEchidna: I am not sure where to go with this though14:30
agateauJontheEchidna: on one hand I'd like to get it finished, as I think it can be useful, especially with libqapt14:31
agateauJontheEchidna: on the other hand, I don't have the time to do it and would like to avoid competing with kpk14:31
Riddellagateau: tsk, test suite still fails on libdbusmenu-qt 0.3.514:32
agateauRiddell: can't be14:32
agateauRiddell: care to share the ouput?14:33
Riddell"dbusmenuexportertest: cannot connect to X server " that's it14:33
agateauRiddell: ah ok, known problem14:34
Riddellwhich is probably no change from earlier versions, I withdraw my tsk14:34
agateauRiddell: which I should fix14:34
Riddellagateau: does plasma-widget-menubar depend on the latest libdbusmenu-qt to build or is it not important?14:38
agateauRiddell: it should build without the latest dbusmenu-qt14:38
agateauit depends on 0.3.3 iirc14:38
apparleI had given the message "/msg nickserv set password <mypass>" and I got the message on the screen, "your password is set to <mypass>", and now it is visible to everyone, so how to delete it. Quassel keeps logs so it is visible even after I exit and come back14:40
jussiapparle: are you sure its visible to all?14:41
apparlejussi: visible to all as in, whoever uses my computer14:41
jussiapparle: if they have access to your IRC account?14:41
jussiapparle: however, this question is really for #kubuntu or #quassel14:42
* jussi disappears14:42
apparlejussi: I know, but didn't get help on kubuntu, and I am desperate , sorry14:42
* jussi points to #quassel and really goes14:43
apparletrying on #quassel :)14:44
Riddellagateau: if I add two menubar applets to plasma the first one gets the menu titles but the menus themselves are empty14:47
agateauRiddell: interesting, I would have expected the 2nd one to not do anything and the 1st one to be complete14:48
agateauRiddell: are you running with todays qt patch?14:48
Riddellagateau: no just the new libdbusmenu-qt and plasma-widget-menubar running14:48
agateauRiddell: that could be the reason I think14:48
Riddellok, qt next up14:49
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agateauJontheEchidna: stupid question, what is the goal of libqapt? I mean, is there already an application using it or going to use it?14:58
agateau(beside kapti :))14:58
JontheEchidna(top sekrit) ;)14:59
JontheEchidnaI'm trying to make a package manager as powerful as Synaptic, but less of a usability nightmare14:59
JontheEchidna...plus Qt/KDE14:59
JontheEchidnaThere's also qapt-patch inside the libqapt source, a replacement for the install-package batch installer15:00
JontheEchidnaI just began writing that sidebar, which is why its blank ;)15:01
apparleJontheEchidna: you are working on libqapt?15:01
JontheEchidnaI'm the libqapt guy, yes15:01
JontheEchidnahttp://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopds2268-jpg.jpg <-another pic ^.^15:02
ulyssesIs it open for translation?:)15:02
apparleJontheEchidna: so you are working on frontend for it also?15:03
JontheEchidnaulysses: I've not yet committed it to kde playground yet15:03
JontheEchidnaapparle: those screenshots are a frontend using that library, yes15:03
JontheEchidnaOnce I get the frontend a bit more useful, I'll probably blog15:03
apparleJontheEchidna: we need to talk :)15:04
JontheEchidnabut right now you can only mark things for install, and the "details" and "installed files" tabs are the only ones that work15:04
apparleJontheEchidna: I am starting with shaman2 GUI and thought I could help you test libqapt15:04
JontheEchidnaand as you can see from the third screenie, you can actually apply changes ;)15:04
ulyssesThat's enough:)15:04
JontheEchidnaapparle: ah, did you see the qapt backend in svn?15:04
JontheEchidna*you can't actually apply changes15:05
JontheEchidna(big difference) ;)15:05
apparleJontheEchidna: I was wondering where I could find the dev of libqapt and was about to search :P15:05
JontheEchidnaapparle: playgrounds/libs/libqapt15:05
apparleJontheEchidna: devs meant developers :)15:06
JontheEchidnaah, right :)15:06
apparleJontheEchidna: so what is the conditions of libqapt and how can I use it with shaman, I mean how to install it15:06
JontheEchidnacheck out playground/libs/libqapt from kde svn, install libept-dev (a dependency), make libqapt, and install it15:07
JontheEchidnathen shaman should pick up that you have qapt when you run cmake15:08
JontheEchidnaThe qapt shaman backend is still a bit buggy though15:08
apparleJontheEchidna: no problem. I'll do onething, I'll start off making the GUI with apt-pkg, and once it stabilzes, I'll start testing it with qapt15:10
apparleJontheEchidna: so the GUI you are using, is it on top of shaman or directly qapt?15:10
JontheEchidnaapparle: the GUI I just showed screenshots of is completely custom, not related to shaman at all15:10
apparleJontheEchidna: no I meant, have you built it on top of libshaman or directly qapt15:11
JontheEchidnaDirectly on qapt15:11
JontheEchidnano shaman stuff at all ;)15:11
JontheEchidnahere's my flowchart I showed at UDS: http://people.ubuntu.com/~echidnaman/qapt_diagram.png15:12
apparleJontheEchidna: nice 15:13
apparleJontheEchidna: ok, you continue with qapt, and I'll get back to you once libshaman is a little stabilized. 15:13
JontheEchidnaboring slideshow I showed: http://people.ubuntu.com/~echidnaman/qapt.odp15:13
apparleJontheEchidna: drf told me that two people are working, who else is with you15:14
JontheEchidnaThere was one guy that was working on an Apt backend for shaman that uses libapt-pkg directly.  Not seen much of him though15:15
JontheEchidnadplacilo, or something15:15
JontheEchidnathat might be who he's talking about15:15
danttiJontheEchidna: thanks for the fixes :D I forgot to remove the ADEPT messages :P15:17
JontheEchidnadantti: you're welcome15:17
JontheEchidnadantti: Please fix the build system though, so I can build libqapt again :P15:18
agateauJontheEchidna: ok, I am in an irc meeting right now, will read the log back15:22
steveireWhat's the policy on backporting patches to kdepim from trunk to 10.04?15:37
JontheEchidnasteveire: Can't have any string changes or new features, and must be tested for regressions, otherwise as long as they fix a bug they're good.15:39
JontheEchidna(we do the testing for regressions)15:39
JontheEchidnagot a patch in mind?15:40
Riddellshadeslayer_: how is july 7th for you for kubuntu tutorials day?  1800-2300UTC15:43
apparleguys why don't I have the KDEDIR variable, and what to set it to?15:45
steveireJontheEchidna: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdepimlibs/akonadi/contact/contactsearchjob.cpp?r1=1129174&r2=1129173&pathrev=1129174 http://dpaste.com/208462/15:46
steveireIn an email thread with a Linux-Magazin journalist.15:46
steveireI'd like to tell him it will be in an update to his distro.15:46
steveireI haven't tested the patch myself though15:46
JontheEchidnaIs there a test case on how to reproduce the issue? I never saw it (though I wasn't using akonadi for addresses)15:48
steveireI don't know. I only have trunk atm. 10.04 is on another computer.15:49
steveirekdepim trunk that is..15:49
Riddelltxwikinger: you offered to do a bugs talk at tutorials day?15:51
txwikingerRiddell: I can if you want me to15:52
JontheEchidnaTo get it in, a Kubuntu dev will have to: -File a bug describing the issue, -Include a testcase, -Upload the package with the fix to lucid-proposed, -Call for testing within the bug, -Users report whether or not the bug is present following the test case15:52
Riddelltxwikinger: how's wed july 7th 22:00UTC ?15:52
txwikingerRiddell: Yes.. sound good.. That time I am just home 15:53
ScottKJontheEchidna: Only the uploading part of that needs to be done by a kubuntu-dev.15:53
JontheEchidnaWell, we could do the other things if we wanted to be extra nice ;)15:54
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ScottKNo extra niceness until after automatic updates are fixed.15:59
Riddellsteveire: is there a bug report in bugs.kde.org for this?16:06
steveireI'll try to find out16:12
Riddellall welcome alf__ who's looking at qt embedded packaging16:14
steveireRiddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20390216:34
ubottuKDE bug 203902 in general "Lookup of addresses while creating a mail does not work " [Normal,Verified: fixed]16:34
apparlewhy isn't KDEDIRS or KDEDIR set in kubuntu? what should I set it to?16:34
steveireIt might be reproducible with more than just kolab though.16:35
Riddellsteveire: it's a bug reported by Sabine, why didn't you says so?  that's suddently much more important :)16:36
Riddellsteveire: hmm, I don't get any address completion using KDE 4.5 beta 2 and kdepim 4.4.416:41
danttiJontheEchidna: do you think embedding the debconfgui in some application has any good? because if it was a KDialog the continue button could be the default one16:41
Riddellsteveire: infact if I click "Select" on a new mail it doesn't list anything from my address book16:43
apparleoh comeon guys, someone must be knowing this. I have a plugin installed in /usr/local, but KServiceTypeTrader is not able to find it?16:44
lex79Riddell: address completion works here16:46
Riddellapparle: try adding /usr/local to /etc/kde4rc16:46
steveiretokoe says it works for him too.16:47
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Riddellsteveire: does it need akonadi strigi integration turned on?16:49
steveireStrigi is not needed , not16:51
apparleRiddell: do you mean I should I add it Prefixes, seperated by a :?16:53
Riddellapparle: yes16:53
apparleRiddell: still no use16:54
apparleRiddell: I ran kbuildsyscoca4 after that16:54
apparleRiddell: just for confirmation, kde4rc has this line now "prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/:/usr/local/"16:55
apparleRiddell: it seems setting "KDEDIRS=/usr/local:/usr" does the job, but is that correct way. I mean would it mess anything else?17:03
Riddellapparle: if it works then it's correct :)17:03
apparlebut KDEDIRS is the default variable for KDE right, so why isn't it set in kubuntu?17:04
Riddellapparle: environment variables tend to be only used if you want to override what the distro sets, us distro people compile it in17:07
apparleRiddell: ok17:08
Riddellsteveire: well I'll need to install lucid to test this, a job for tomorrow17:22
steveireI should upgrade to that.17:35
steveireI think I'm still using 9.04 on my workstation17:35
JontheEchidnadantti: There could be a DebconfGui class and then a DebconfGuiDialog maybe17:42
shadeslayer_Riddell: sure no problem :)17:43
shadeslayer_1800 UTC :)17:43
JontheEchidnadantti: since DebconfGui already handles forward/backwards, you could probably just embed it in a buttonless KDialog, and that'd be the whole class17:43
JontheEchidnathat way we could get the flexibility to embed if we wanted, but also give the convenience of just creating a kdialog17:44
shadeslayerbtw is anyone onto the k3b packaging yet?17:52
shadeslayerill take it up tomorrow if no one wants to do it today :)17:53
oxymoronHi, may I just ask here because nobody answer anywhere else. Is there any IM-client that support firewire cams?17:57
apparleoxymoron: I don't think the question is IM client, but it must be driver for that cam. But can't say... never used cams18:08
shadeslayerghostcube: hey :)18:14
ghostcubehi shadeslayer :)18:14
* shadeslayer is aching left right and center 18:14
shadeslayermaco: you didnt sponsor my package :(18:30
shadeslayerany problems?18:30
neversfeldekubuntu plymouth nvidia mess is back :)18:45
shadeslayerneversfelde: eh?18:45
* shadeslayer is booting plymouth+nvidia18:45
neversfeldeshadeslayer: the plymouth theme is broken again18:45
shadeslayerneversfelde: with the latest updates?18:46
shadeslayeroh just remembered i use a custom boot parameter :)18:46
shadeslayerthat way plymouth uses the default drivers during boot and switches to nvidia18:47
shadeslayerafter the boot part is done :)18:47
lex79Riddell: ^ you uploaded kds without my fix for nvidia plymouth which is in lucid-updates18:47
shadeslayerneversfelde: want to fix your boot screen ? :P18:47
neversfeldeshadeslayer: the bootscreen is a minor problem with my maverick installation :)18:48
txwikingertalking about plymouth.. I installed kubuntu on my netbook from the kubuntu CD and the splash is ubuntu18:57
txwikingerwenn I shutdown it is kubuntu18:57
KRFshadeslayer, does "fix" mean: show the boot screen at a proper resolution?18:57
shadeslayerKRF: yep18:57
txwikingerand also.. in the middle of loading the display changes resolution but the splash does not18:57
shadeslayertxwikinger: did you see the new bug day announcement?18:58
ScottKtxwikinger: Lucid or Maverick?18:58
KRFglad to hear there's work going on ;)18:58
txwikingerScottK: lucid18:58
KRFwhen starting people tend to tell me "is that normal?"18:58
ScottKAre you sure you have the final?18:58
KRFwhen booting*18:58
txwikingershadeslayer: bug day announcement?18:58
shadeslayertxwikinger: bug hug day thingy18:59
txwikingerwhen was that announcement?18:59
shadeslayertxwikinger: Announcing the Next Ubuntu Bug Day! - Thursday 17th June 201018:59
shadeslayerits today 0_o18:59
shadeslayertxwikinger: 2 days ago18:59
txwikingershadeslayer: yes 18:59
Quintasan4.5 is soooo shiny18:59
txwikingershadeslayer: The next KDE package bug hug day will be on Monday19:00
* shadeslayer gives Quintasan some sun glasses 19:00
shadeslayertxwikinger: whee!19:00
txwikingerif you have suggestions for a packages I am open for it19:00
shadeslayertxwikinger: hmm... will come up with some tomorrow....19:00
txwikingershadeslayer: ok19:00
shadeslayerhave to trave about 50 kms for training,so will sleep early today :P19:01
macoshadeslayer: i fell asleep19:01
shadeslayermaco: ah ok :)19:01
shadeslayerlfarone asked me to file a bug :P19:01
odlathe brightness OSD that kubuntu uses in 10.04 ... has that gone upstream for KDE 4.5 or was that cherry picked from 4.5?19:02
shadeslayerodla: we haz OSD in maverick :)19:03
shadeslayerfor brightness and sound :)19:03
odlashadeslayer: it's also in 10.04 ... what i am wondering is where it comes off or if it's an ubuntu only patch 19:03
shadeslayerlex79: ^^19:03
shadeslayeri think it went upstream19:04
ScottKodla: For 10.04 it's an Ubuntu patch.19:04
* txwikinger thought the osd was bios not kubuntu19:04
ScottKIt did get upstream for 4.5.19:05
odlaScottK: do know if it's in kde 4.5?19:05
odlaok thanks19:05
Quintasanand Kimpanel works too!19:05
* shadeslayer hugs jussi19:06
shadeslayerQuintasan: you only upgraded now?19:06
Quintasanshadeslayer: yeah19:06
shadeslayerhehe :)19:07
QuintasanI had no time before to do this19:07
jussiI dunno, these random facebook peoples...19:07
shadeslayerjussi: Rohan Garg == Me :D19:07
jussishadeslayer: I know...19:07
jussiwas a joke...19:08
shadeslayerah ok ... :P19:08
* shadeslayer isnt good with those19:08
txwikingerwhy do we use facebook again?19:08
shadeslayertxwikinger: to further th ubuntu cause? :P19:09
txwikingerah.. right.. certainly not because of the openness of facebook :p19:09
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neversfeldemhh, Debian made minitube depend on phonon-backend-gstreamer19:21
neversfeldeit works perfectly with phonon-backend-xine19:21
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shadeslayermaco: bug 595633  :)19:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 595633 in mingw32 (Ubuntu) "Please merge mingw32" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59563319:32
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ari-tczewshadeslayer: why you don't ask for merging on #ubuntu-motu?19:57
shadeslayerari-tczew: read the backlog :)19:57
shadeslayerari-tczew: also i gave maco all the info yesterday but she fell asleep :P19:57
shadeslayer( all this in #ubuntu-motu )19:57
ari-tczewshadeslayer: heh I don't have time and I'm going out19:58
shadeslayerari-tczew: :P19:58
* shadeslayer gets back to XKCD19:58
macoshadeslayer: ill do it this evening after school19:59
shadeslayermaco: http://www.xkcd.com/754/ ( something we talked about yesterday :P )19:59
shadeslayermaco: sure :)20:00
* shadeslayer wonders if maco authors xkcd :P20:00
macoshadeslayer: you pointed it out yesterday didnt you20:01
shadeslayermaco: uh no...20:01
shadeslayermaco: i only opened xkcd now :P20:01
macomusta been nigelb20:02
shadeslayerhehe :)20:02
neversfeldewe should remove exposure blending from the menu, it is useless, because it only displays a warning, that hugin is not installed20:28
neversfeldeas far as I remeber I did this for Lucid, now it is back, is there a reason for this?20:28
a|wenAnyone around who can sponsor a new version of k3b? it's in bzr lp:~kubuntu-members/k3b/ubuntu/22:01
ScottKa|wen: I'm about to head out for the evening.  If no one gets it, ping me tomorrow.22:03
a|wenScottK: okay ... thanks in advance; i'll ping you if no one else comes around to it22:06
shadeslayer_a|wen: aww... i was going to do it :P22:15
shadeslayer_( packaging k3b :D )22:15
ScottKYou snooze, you lose.22:15
Mamarokis plasma-desktop taking up 100% RAM in 4.5.85 and losing the desktop widgets and wallpaper a known issue?22:16
shadeslayer_lol :P22:16
shadeslayer_Mamarok: no22:16
shadeslayer_100 pc RAM... first for plasma 22:16
a|wenshadeslayer_: heh, sorry ... you can help preparing a backport for lucid, after it has been in maverick a little while ;)22:16
shadeslayer_only 35 MB here :)22:16
shadeslayer_a|wen: hehe :P22:16
shadeslayer_rekonq takes about 15 mins to build nowadays :P22:17
Mamarokshadeslayer_: it starts OK, and then grabs more and more, making all the system irresponsive, I already had to kill it several times22:17
shadeslayer_up from 5 mins earlier22:17
shadeslayer_Mamarok: it seems you have a really bad memory leak somewhere22:17
Mamarokand since my system runs 24/24, maybe only few people will see that22:17
Mamarokshadeslayer_: I know where, not just somewhere22:18
shadeslayer_ahh.. ive rebooted thrice in about 4 hours22:18
shadeslayer_Mamarok: where?22:18
Mamarokwhat about the widgets and wallpaper reset when restarting KDE?22:18
Mamarokshadeslayer_: well, obviously plasma22:18
MamarokI wouldn't look too far away22:18
shadeslayer_Mamarok: probably cache problem... try kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental for that22:19
Mamarokshadeslayer_: try letting it run for several hours22:19
shadeslayer_Mamarok: how do you kill plasma?22:19
Mamarokshadeslayer_: already did, no change22:19
shadeslayer_kquitapp or killall ?22:19
Mamarokkillall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop22:19
shadeslayer_thats your problem :)22:19
Mamarokit should not loose the widgets, there is a config file for that22:19
shadeslayer_Mamarok: use kquitapp4 plasma-desktop22:19
shadeslayer_Mamarok: but it doesnt get written properly22:20
shadeslayer_try with kquitapp4 22:20
Mamarokshadeslayer_: it looses those even when restarting KDE regularily22:20
Mamarokso it is clearly not my fault22:20
shadeslayer_hmm... not sure about that then 22:20
shadeslayer_ScottK: whats the vote at now? ( regarding KC )22:21
Mamarokshadeslayer_: patience :)22:21
shadeslayer_Mamarok: :P22:21
Mamarokthat is not supposed to be told before the end22:21
shadeslayer_Mamarok: hehe :)22:21
ScottKshadeslayer_: I don't think it's visible until the end (to anyone)22:21
Mamarokespecially not if using Condorcet22:21
shadeslayer_Mamarok: yeah Riddell mentioned that22:21
ScottKCIVS is a pretty well considered implementation.  I'm glad we're using it.22:23

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