[00:26] what happened? [00:26] netsplit? [01:01] what is recommended dock for kubuntu? [01:28] hello [01:28] odf files! === ljl is now known as Guest32007 [01:46] !seen kkathman [01:46] I have no seen command [01:48] !help [01:48] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:48] ~seen jontheechidna [01:48] hmm, maybe that was kubotu that had seen [01:48] !commands [01:48] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [01:49] hehe.. chillax ubot ;]]]].. nickserv info shall do do me apropos.. [01:49] Ciao4now peep'holes'N'hoes;]] === Viper is now known as Out`Of`Control [02:21] Hello everyone! I am trying to set up Facebook in Gwibber on Kubuntu netbook edition. I can get through authorizing with my facebook account but there is not add button after that. How do I click the final add button? [02:21] 10.04 [03:02] good place for questions about kde 4.5 beta 2? [03:05] best place for kde 4.5 beta 2 questions? [03:18] I'm having a lot of trouble getting my microphone recognized. Can anyone help me? === Viper is now known as Out`Of`Control [03:35] I guess I'll never be able to suspend/hibernate my laptop or use anything requiring a microphone unless I go back to windows. It just doesn't work, and no one has any answers. No one cares. [04:35] I am facing a strange problem after I upgraded to 10.04 from 9.10. My apt-get is not making connections through the proxy though I am able to able to get synaptic to work by specifying the proxy. This is happening even though in my environment variables, proxy has been correctly set. [04:37] Ok, specifying sudo -E apt-get worked. But why this change? === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [04:42] i'm having a problem that kdm seems to be coming up, but as soon as i log in, the x server restarts and i go back to the login screen [04:43] i just updated my ati drivers to the latest ones from the amd website [04:44] x doesn't come up when i use the radeon driver, only when i use vesa [04:48] hi === hagebake is now known as hagabaka === scottl_ is now known as scott_l [06:12] hello [06:14] i need help with grub rescue? i disconnected my kubuntu hdd and plugged in a different hdd so i can try out ubuntu (both 10.04) and when i went back to my kubuntu hdd it says no such partition. there isnt another os on my kubuntu drive [06:22] When I click on a remote video file (over samba or ssh), dolphin copies the file locally and than plays it [06:22] Is there a way of just streaming the file? [06:22] I mean, like in gnome when clicking on a file placed on a remote location (smb/ssh) the player opens immediately [06:49] que tal so ynuevo [06:50] soy lammer [06:50] !es | brayan [06:50] brayan: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. === sergio is now known as Chemp3 === sergio is now known as Chemp3 === Viper is now known as Out`Of`Control [07:17] hello [07:17] do anyone know about byobu [07:18] do anyone know about byobu [08:11] how can I set a directory to allow users write access for any new directories that might get created there in the future? === embedded4 is now known as embedded4_ [08:42] I can't seem to get this adobe flash player 10.1 loaded - this upgrades bypasses adobe's new injection that came out on June 10th they gave us a new one [08:42] anyone get theirs loaded? [08:43] hola [08:44] eooo [08:44] !es | nandychu [08:44] nandychu: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [08:44] ok, sorry :P [08:46] I can't seem to get this adobe flash player 10.1 loaded - this upgrades bypasses adobe's new injection that came out on June 10th they gave us a new one [09:28] spanish [09:30] spanish ubuntu [09:38] hey all, um, for some reason i cant get kubuntu to automount an hdd on my machine [09:40] its not visible in fstab, but i can see it in gparted === brayan is now known as tridesoft [11:03] hello friends, i am using ktorrent 3.3.4 on kubuntu 10.04 with kde 4.4.4, in ktorrent the `country' column in `peers' tab doesn't show country names, what can be done for this? [11:04] !dvd [11:04] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [11:06] hey guys, can anyone tell me what is on DVD edition of kubuntu 10.04? what is added in diff with cd edition? [11:06] I cannot find filelist anywhere [12:48] hello [12:50] if I want to view pdf documents embebed in Firefox, have I to install Adobe reader? or is there any other free solution? [12:50] Try okular [12:51] EagleScreen: ^^ [12:51] okular is what is opening them now [12:51] ah, not embedding. [12:51] but it is not embebed it open the file in a separate application [12:53] someone could explain me why does kde from a kubuntu on a livecd run better than a kde on a debian installed on my desktop ? [12:53] drivers ? [12:55] jocelyn: what is "run better" exactly? [12:57] i don't know how say it in english but something like : smoother [12:57] erf [12:57] it the google traduction >> [12:57] it's [12:57] * [12:58] on the live cd is more fluid than on my desktop [12:59] jocelyn: could be drivers? on the debian desktop, what happens if you run glxinfo in a konsole? [13:00] i have the same idea [13:01] but on my debian I've the proprietor drivers [13:01] and i think on the livecd there are the free [13:01] ati? [13:01] Nvidia 9400Gt [13:01] maybe you just don't have enough memory... [13:02] ram ? [13:02] or dd ? [13:02] hard disk* [13:02] ram. [13:02] i've 2go [13:02] (knew what you meant - dd as in hdd no?) [13:02] yes [13:03] .. that was '2gb' rather than I've got 2 go I assume [13:03] how much gui crud do you have enabled? [13:05] gui crud ? [13:12] !mozplugger [13:12] i have found mozplugger package [13:15] hi guys [13:20] hello, i am having trouble with linux when i enter sudo apt-get update i get http://pastebin.com/2QpCza2N [13:20] is there a way to solve this i have already tried google and renamed cp status-old status [13:20] can anyone help me ? [13:22] i would be very grateful [13:24] I think you /etc/apt/sources.list are wrong [13:24] only a clue =) [13:25] you can try with other maybe [13:25] what do you suggest i use? [13:27] 'Morning [13:32] i used apt-get clean && apt-get update and everythign was solved thnx guys [13:34] hi i have problem in my cdrom , i can play dvd films but i cant write dvd iso file or any type of files [13:43] hey guys. how to disable password authentication for mounting ntfs drives? [13:43] nano-21, install kubuntu-restricted-extras and check out medibuntu [13:43] !medibuntu | nano-21 [13:43] nano-21: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [13:44] nano-21, after setting up medbuntu repos , then install libdvdcss2 [13:46] blueskaj: he's having trouble burning not watching films [13:46] BluesKaj, and that solve the prolem ? , let me try [13:47] mfraz74, yes and that's what he needs to do to write dvds [13:47] not to write an iso though [13:48] BluesKaj, i have kubuntu-restricted-extras [13:48] have you tried kdesu k3b? [13:50] how to disable password authentication for mounting ntfs drives? i did it before but now i'd need some help please [13:57] BluesKaj, my os read my mobile broad as cd http://yfrog.com/7e124qp look [14:00] nano-21, are you on lucid ? [14:01] BluesKaj, sorry i dont understand what do u mean what lucid [14:01] !lucid [14:01] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 [14:01] yeah sure thanks for your HELP!! [14:01] BluesKaj, yes 10.4 kubuntu [14:02] !patience |Andrew9 [14:02] Andrew9: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [14:02] How can I know which version of ubuntu is installed on my computer? [14:03] taha_, in terminal , uname -a [14:03] taha_, in the terminal , lsb release -a [14:03] thank you [14:04] nano-21, sorry it's lsb_release -a === Tauop_ is now known as Tauop [14:06] nano-21, that's k3b interpreting a USB card as a drive ? [14:06] nano-21, uname -a give the kernel version only [14:06] taha_, lsb_release -a [14:06] BluesKaj, yes [14:07] BluesKaj, and i dono why :s [14:07] BluesKaj, root@i2:~# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/media/disk/tor/Metal\ Gear\ Solid\ 2\ -\ Sons\ of\ Liberty\ \ NTSC\(USA\)\ \ PS2DVD.iso [14:07] :-( /dev/dvd: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0 [14:07] nano-21, neither do I :( [14:08] BluesKaj, /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [14:08] that is my fstab [14:08] thank you BluesKay [14:09] nano-21, your fstab seems ok, what is the dvd , -r or -rw ? [14:10] BluesKaj, my dvdrw and my cd dvd is dvd-r 16x [14:13] nano-21, think you need to get better Hardware recognition , one way is to make sure all the available repositories are enabled including 3rd party sources. [14:14] !repositories |nano-21 [14:14] nano-21: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [14:14] BluesKaj, ok thanks [14:16] guys how to delete the Kubuntu-IRC information in quassel, I changed my password and don't wan't it to be visible [14:18] apparle, do yo mean cloaking your IP etc ? [14:18] where did firelight go? i can't find it in the repos ? [14:18] BluesKaj, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [14:19] BluesKaj, ithink the problem with my os because i upgraded my os from 9.10 to 10.4 and my os did`t put the new repositories [14:21] BluesKaj: "looking up your hostname" etc and all the other information available about freenode, and wher the messages from NickServ are visible [14:22] nano-21, it may not be your repos , i think you have a Hardware recognition problem, especially if you added new hardware after installation [14:23] luesKaj: "looking up your hostname" etc and all the other information available about freenode, and wher the messages from NickServ are visible [14:23] BluesKaj: ^^ [14:24] BluesKaj: but I don't want to delete the other channel info [14:24] apparle, i don't understand , sorry [14:25] BluesKaj: I'll send you a screenshot [14:26] !hardware |nano-21 [14:26] nano-21: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [14:26] !oaste [14:26] !paste [14:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:27] BluesKaj: I want to delete this info, http://imagebin.org/101630 [14:27] apparle, I'm not real familiar with quassel [14:27] anyone else here, used to quassel? [14:29] apparle, that info is only available to you afaik, no one else sees it , if you want to hide your location/IP etc then cloaking is the best way to go [14:29] BluesKaj: multiple computer users [14:29] !cloak | apparle [14:29] apparle: Want to hide your IP while connected to freenode? See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks More information available in #freenode [14:31] BluesKaj: actually I had give the message "/msg nickserv set password " and I got the message on the screen, "your password is set to ", and now it is visible to everyone, so how to delete it [14:33] apparle, log out and back in , your pw is now set and it won't be shown again ...I hope [14:34] BluesKaj: i know that, but quassel keeps the history [14:35] so does freenode logs, but i dunno about nickserv [14:36] BluesKaj: obviously nickserv won't keep public logs of 'set password commands' :) [14:37] let's hope not : [14:37] BluesKaj: I am currently worried, how to remove that in quassel [14:37] dunno , sorry [14:38] login and out , at least the reset pw won't show anymore [14:39] BluesKaj: its not the problems of freenode, quassel records everything shows it, even if you exit and start quassel [14:41] ok then don't use quassel , use konversation ...I prefer it to quassel anyway :) [14:42] quassel never appealed to me ...ever [14:42] It must log into a file somewhere on your filesystem, find and remove the information. [14:45] quassel records everything...glad i don't use it [14:59] how do I install latest Amarok in Kubuntu? [15:00] aside from make config make install make clean wizardry [15:00] daedaluz, is it a dev /alpha/beta? [15:00] latest stable, I think. in opensuse we had this backport/community repo [15:02] daedaluz, it should have installed by deafult with the OS [15:03] latest upstream stable, I mean. 2.3.1 [15:03] daedaluz: 2.3.1 can be installed as indicated here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.3.1 [15:05] gorgonizer: thanks, I'm new to this ppa & apt hoodlum [15:06] daedaluz: no problem :) [15:31] i have problem in my dvdrw , i can`t burn any thing , when i try to mount the cdrom , i got this (root@i2:~# ls -l /dev/cdrom [15:31] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-06-17 17:15 /dev/cdrom -> sr0 [15:31] ) ( mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only ) [15:35] are Yakuake and Amarok really dependant on Plymouth? [15:38] daedaluz: Not directly, but the entire boot process requires plymouth to be there. [15:40] Pici: what? really? so apt is not going bonkers here: http://pastebin.ca/1885089 [15:41] daedaluz: Yes, you will break your install if you remove plymouth. [15:42] * daedaluz tossess Kubuntu to trash [15:42] daedaluz: You can use a text-based plymouth theme if you don't care for the 5 dots thing. [15:44] i have problem in my dvdrw , i can`t burn any thing , when i try to mount the cdrom , i got this ( mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only ) and this dmesg: http://pastebin.com/F6UVF5eM , this lshw -C disk: http://pastebin.com/wFLTjwFh that lshw -C disk [15:48] Pici: so.. plymouth is actually a dependency of upstart? [15:49] daedaluz: No, plymouth is a dependency of mountall, which is required to boot. [15:51] i have problem in my dvdrw , i can`t burn any thing , when i try to mount the cdrom , i got this ( mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only ) and this dmesg: http://pastebin.com/F6UVF5eM , this lshw -C disk: http://pastebin.com/wFLTjwFh [15:53] Pici: my heavens... [15:54] Riddell: Hi! [15:54] nano-q8: the message about write protection when mounting is a warning, you can disregard it [15:55] nano-q8: how are you trying to burn something? what goes wrong? [15:55] hi alf__ [15:56] Torch, in gnomebaker i got this : :-( FORMAT allocaion length isn't sane [15:56] Riddell: I am trying to make a Qt embedded based on the qt-x11 packages and I am having some issues with the symbols files. [15:56] Torch, in k3b i got : there is no empty dvd [15:57] alf__: I would expect the symbols to be different, that's why we need a different package :) [15:57] Riddell: Basically, dpkg-gensymbols doesn't seem to respect the (subst) tags there and substitutes instead of just keeping them the same [15:58] Riddell: eg http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/451121 [15:58] Riddell: any ideas about that? [16:00] hi everybod [16:00] alf__: I must confess to not knowing what (subst) is [16:01] anybody listening? [16:02] Riddell: Don't worry, no one seems to know much about it :) [16:03] alf__: developer stuff best in #kubuntu-devel in general [16:03] antonella: the whole channel is listening [16:03] Riddell: ok [16:04] eh eh [16:04] i'm sorry i'm newbe... [16:04] newbe here and to ubuntu [16:04] * maco covers Riddell's ears [16:04] he's not listening now, go ahead [16:04] i'm on mythbuntu and i'm trying to setup my tv cards [16:05] i think you want #mythbuntu [16:05] i don't know cause i'm in difficult also with kaffeine [16:05] #ubuntu-mythtv perhaps [16:05] !myth [16:05] boo :( [16:06] briefly I have 2 cards: YUAN EC300 and MSI Digivox Micro HD [16:06] its !mythbuntu [16:07] by lsusb the YUAN is warm and the MSI is completely absent [16:07] so i'm trying to configure the YUAN [16:07] seems ok, I've just installed non free drivers with the hardware drivers gui [16:08] both mythtv and kaffeine are unable to manage it [16:08] i cannot scan for channels [16:09] kaffeine says "No device found" [16:09] and mythtv says all device busy [16:09] don't know what else to do.... [16:12] whats faster for netbooks, desktop edition or netbook edition= [16:12] ? [16:32] why isn't KDEDIRS or KDEDIR set in kubuntu? [16:32] what should I set it to [16:44] oh comeon guys, someone must be knowing this. I have a plugin installed in /usr/local, but KServiceTypeTrader is not able to find it? === LeoN is now known as Guest1583 === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [17:00] hi, how can I chroot to my kubuntu from LinuxMint ? === cesar_ is now known as Guest60143 === ubuntu_ is now known as ARelic [17:26] Alrighty, latest 26 bug fix/upgrades broke kubuntu "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation", what is the easiest way to get grub to show up so I can try to get into the system somehow and fix this? [17:34] Hello. I had a power-failure during the dist-upgrade to 10.04. :( Power went out after everything was downloaded, and aptitude was installing new packages. Good-thing: I can still boot into a console (with many errors/warnings appearing). Is there a "magig" command to tell aptitude to try to reinstall everything it tried to do last time? [17:35] or should I just go ahead, download 10.04 iso and re-install from scratch? [17:35] .. magic instead of magig.. [17:37] Elirips: try "sudo aptitude install -f" [17:40] got to a termial mode to edit stuff but now sure what to change to fix the "Counld not start ksmserver. check your installation" problem [17:42] Is there ANY IM client out there for Kubuntu that supports Firewire cams? [17:44] ARelic: make sure you dont ahve any root owned files in ~/ [17:45] or is it ANY apps at all supporting Firewire cams except for Kino? :S [17:46] !sound [17:46] If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [17:49] There is Amsn I think, but it doesnt have same features as other apps. [17:55] Hi there [17:55] doesn anybody know if the Pentagram p 6132-08 wifi card work under kubuntu/ [17:55] ? [17:56] still not finding a way to fix it [17:57] not sure where to look either, is there a way to list the last set of updates/installs? [18:09] oxymoron: is there any problem with kino? [18:10] apparle: Well Kino is for video editing, I want to use my cam as a webcam in A IM client ... [18:10] I am almost able to make Skype works with it, but just almost. [18:10] oxymoron: what happened with skype? [18:12] "[19:08] oxymoron: I don't think the question is IM client, but it must be driver for that cam. But can't say... never used cams" - The good thing with Firewire cams is that it doesnt need any drivers, or well iee1394 drivers, but thats built in in Linux core. If I do dmesg it shows that its initialzing /dev/raw1394 [18:12] apparle: Skype isnt able to detect cam, or well its not their fault, the problem is video4linux, v4l protocol. [18:12] vloopback doesnt do the trick either. [18:13] oxymoron: I don't think a normal cam runs as /dev/raw1394. so you can say its a driver problem [18:13] oxymoron: what does a normal cam known as /dev/?????? [18:15] apparle: A "normal" should be detected as /dev/video0 I think but that doesnt work for my cam either if I use USB instead of firewrie'. [18:16] apparle: A regular doesnt use Firewire at all, but this is a DV cam. [18:16] oxymoron: you mean your camera connects via USB or firewire? [18:16] apparle: BOTH! [18:16] apparle: But I want Firewire because USB cannot show the good picture I want. [18:16] oxymoron: I don't think what you are talking is as simple [18:17] Then theres no USB support either for cams so ... [18:17] oxymoron: you know any windows or mac app, capable of your purpose? [18:17] apparle: Why not? video device => map to v4l => voila ... [18:17] apparle: yes Windows is capable of it. [18:17] how can I set a directory to allow users write access for any new directories that might get created there in the future? [18:17] In Windows I can use my cam in WLM. [18:18] gnac: sudo chmod 0777 /folder would allow ANYONE todo whatever they want. bnut be careful with that one. [18:19] oxymoron: it seems, you will have to fool IM client into believing it as a webcam device [18:19] oxymoron: but I don't think it would be as simple as soft linking [18:19] apparle: Well, the problem isnt Im clients or Linux Core, the freaking problems is Kubuntu that isnt able to map ALL kind of video devices into V4l or v4lv2 [18:20] oxymoron: you mean it works on ubuntu? or anyother distro [18:20] apparle: Linux finds the cam and Kino can show image perfectly. Now I want it to work in Skype and Kopete/Pidgin or similar. [18:20] oxymoron: so the issue is, I can give 777 access to a directory, or 770 or whatever, but if I create a new subfolder in that directory (or copy from a camera etc) it reverts to the default, namely 0755. [18:20] Can I set the default to always be 0775 for newly created folder in a directory? [18:21] gnac: Sorry, I have no idea, anyone else maybe? [18:21] oxymoron: so that's what I am saying, linux treats it as a camcorder used for video recording. IM clients look for a webcam [18:21] apparle: And no it doesnt work in any *buntu. [18:21] apparle: No, IM Clients looks for video devices in v4l protocol [18:22] Most of them ... [18:22] I thought you could do it with a sticky suid bit or some such, but the exact meachanism escapes me. [18:22] gnac: I dont understand why it would revert into 0755 if you create a subfolder in it? :S [18:22] apparle: So the problem isnt IM-clients or Linux core as I said, the problem is distro specific. [18:23] oxymoron: have you given try to anyother distro? [18:23] oxymoron: if that is the case, I myself would confirm that it works on a different distro and then try to fix it on the one I like [18:23] All you have todo is mapping new video devices detected into v4l and both Skype and Kopete should be able to use it. [18:23] oxymoron: the parent doesn't reveert, only the children. Heres a use case: [18:24] apparle: I dont think any distro would be able todo it. Kubuntu is the one with most IM-clients. [18:24] oxymoron: I mean any distro is capable of doing mapping to v4l [18:24] gnac: That is because default is 0755 when doing mkdir. You need to use 0777 when creating subolders. [18:24] apparle: But they dont? [18:25] I create an nfs directory to share images on the local network. I give all system users rw access. u+rw to that directory. I then create a new subdirectory to for a new set of images ... [18:25] oxymoron: anyways I came across this GUI which is capable to mapping . Have you seen it http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/ [18:25] apparle: Not everyone, and then most USB webcams doesnt work at all. This have been a issue for a LONG time now, I dont understand why nobody figured it out yet. [18:26] oxymoron: other than manually setting the permission after each new folder addition, how would I use 777? Again, I seem to recall a way to sticky bit the folders and any new subfolders. [18:26] apparle: I think I tried Coriander before. [18:26] apparle: if theres no NEW firmware or something I have tried most of them out there. [18:26] NEW = 2010 [18:27] oxymoron: firmware=? you mean the software inside the cam [18:27] gnac: Whats your end purpose with this? [18:27] apparle: Sorry meant protocols and drivers. [18:28] apparle: I tried this before http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/VideoFourLinuxLoopbackDevice - But I wasnt able to fix vloopback to work with v4l === jonny is now known as Guest31019 === Guest31019 is now known as jonny2 [18:29] oxymoron: that's surely not firmware :P. Anyways I suggest you start afresh again, I had similar problem with my sound, when I tried again after an year I was successful [18:30] oxymoron: were u able to see the video in coriander ? [18:31] apparle: Yeah I try it out again, hopefully 10.04 use better Linux core and upgrades here and there ... I was having SERIOUS issues with ALSA, Xine and PulseAudio before as well ... [18:31] apparle: I am able to see it in Kino as for sure, but not remember Coriander. [18:31] Then Coriander is from like 2007 .... [18:31] oxymoron: I think you will be able to [18:32] oxymoron: also, my own experience, don't sit and wait for things to get fixed. Find a the problem and try fixinig it on you own. Most of the times it is only 1 line addition to source code :) [18:32] oxymoron: fixed my audio and video drivers that way [18:34] apparle: I dont like all Gnome apps on Kubuntu, it installs a lot of crappy packages :P Mostly I try out to fix it, but I usually not manipulate source code to fix it. [18:35] oxymoron: that is the last stage, it is usually soft linking and some environment variables and some edited conf files :) [18:36] oxymoron: i also have gnome apps, but I usually start a seperate partition for fixing things (and install crap in it) [18:36] oxymoron: that was *hate* [18:36] apparle: Most times I do it, I break other things in the system ... which means incompability with other apps if I change settings and confs too much. [18:37] oxymoron: that's why use a seperate partition, find the solution and bring it to your stable system [18:37] oxymoron: wubi installtions are best for this purpose [18:37] apparle: Btw, do you know if theres any application that can send image automaticly to imagebin or imageshare when pressing printscreen button on keyboard? :) [18:38] nope, I rarely do it [18:38] apparle: Well one option is to use a VM-environment but then you got other problems and VM doesnt work same way as a regular. [18:38] oxymoron: you know the plasmoid for pastebin? [18:38] apparle: Well like pastebinit for Konsole :) [18:39] oxymoron: wubi is best if you already have windows [18:39] Torch: Yeah? :) I tried it, but its complex using it. I want to choose in a list when pressing the printscreen button what I want todo with the screenshot. WOuld be nice editting it first as well, like cropping and scaling :P [18:39] apparle: I dont use Windows anymore, seriously I couldnt stand it. Now I use Linux/Kubuntu fulltime. [18:40] oxymoron: printscreen shows you ksnapshot. use it. drag the result to the plasmoid. doesn't get much better than that imho. [18:40] oxymoron: you could use the concept of wubi though [18:41] oxymoron: i mean if you get the list of things wubi does. [18:41] Torch: I always use Ksnapshot and then drag it into plasmoid require me to switch to desktop, right? Thats to many steps and doesnt make it comfortable. It goes faster do printscreen, save, upload to imagebin and send the link. [18:41] apparle: What you mean? :) [18:41] apparle: http://imagebin.ca/view/ovW26m.html [18:42] hi [18:42] oxymoron: I simply want to be able to allow users to copy image folders on to a shared drive, and not have to dork with permissions to let other people add to or modify the contents of those new folders. [18:43] Torch: Its not that I cant do it, but make things go faster and smooth when need to pastebin images and text to show people is always wanted :) [18:43] oxymoron: basically in wubi the main fs is in a .disk file, the /boot is in a normal folder on an existing partitoin and you just need to make proper grub entries [18:43] gnac: I dont understand the purpose for that one, why should people be able to modify others content? [18:44] apparle: How does Wubi helps me in Linux environment? :S [18:45] oxymoron: you don't need to make a new partition. [18:45] oxymoron: if you are working in a collaborative environment, thats what you do. [18:46] apparle: Sounds the same as using Virtualbox. [18:46] gnac: i don't know of a way to solve your proboem with sticky bit magic, but you could run some script triggered i/d/xyz-notify that just sets the permissions you want. [18:47] eg joe and I need to work on a set of images. Joe creates a new folder on the shared drive. He copies some of his images in there and starts working on dsc001.jog. Jill starts working on dsc002.jpg. Jill want to save it as dsc002-tmp.jpg. Jill can't. [18:47] oxymoron: i never tried virtualbox, but here only the main filesystem is virtual. everything else is very real [18:48] apparle: Mostly I prefer just to have one real desktop environment and maybe a backup partition to boot into. But then I always have Hirens Boot CD and *buntu LiveCD === mgagne is now known as wftl [18:49] I am telling you that option for fixing and messing stuff, when that if finished just delete the file [18:50] gnac: you could do it via a samba share... [18:52] apparle: Would be nice getting advice how to fix it as well, not just how to prepare a environment to fix the REAL problem :P Most things works in Kubuntu now, its so tiny things left to make it like perfect. [18:52] oxymoron: :) [18:53] oxymoron: If I had any experience with cams then I could have helped [18:53] apparle: The release cycle doesnt do any big changes after each release. Not that it should because of the fast development and 2 releases per year :P It took forever to make the system boot faster. [18:54] oxymoron: anyways.... lets start with coriander if nothing else. you running lucid right? [18:54] apparle: If I wasnt hating C++ and Python I would MAYBE code my own drivers and protocols. But then its REALly not my thing, I seriously hate system programming it make me go nuts. [18:54] oxymoron: :D I like programming, but don't have enough time [18:54] apparle: This happened when i tried to run Corinader: http://imagebin.ca/view/ovW26m.html - And yes my cam is detected and turned on. [18:55] apparle: And yes Lucid. [18:55] apparle: Soon Maverick MAYBE if it entices me enough :P [18:55] James147: had thought about that. seems kind of basswards to use samba on a linux only network. [18:56] oxymoron: is your camera supporting the required specs [18:56] apparle: I like programming when I can do it independent and combine it with design and huge challenges. [18:56] apparle: I mean system programming isnt independent, it depends on other hardware and other protocols depending on what you do. [18:57] apparle: It supports AV/C controlling and all thar standard things, its webcam compliant ;) [19:00] oxymoron: check why is camcorder not seeing it [19:00] apparle: How? [19:01] oxymoron: awwww... you are already running it off konsole, and still not getting any errors :( [19:02] apparle: Yeah ... too bad :P My usual unluckyness :P [19:02] It feels like I have detected like almost every single problem you can reach on a computer. One time I was afraid I couldnt to ANYTHING on my computer, was locked out from BIOS and everything I think. [19:03] CMOS sprinter reset theres always, but I dont prefer that method ... [19:04] oxymoron: you haven't tried running my computer (which *sometimes* runs) [19:05] I don't see KDE panel on my desktop, how can I start it? [19:05] apparle: I havefigure out that most things thats good to use a smooth desktop expiernce is to have nice CPU, monitor and hdd. [19:06] SSD OS disk, at least Core 2 CPU and nice monitor that works well with graphic card and support good refresh rates and resolutions in Linux :) [19:06] ToxinPowe: Right click the desktop > Add panel [19:06] oxymoron: you forgot the main problem causing thing is MoBo [19:06] ok, thx [19:06] apparle: I have never get any problem because of my MB :P Mostly its only one component at the time that doesnt work well. [19:07]