| === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti | ||
| === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying | ||
| === ericm-Zzz is now known as ericm|ubuntu | ||
| === hrw|gone is now known as hrw | ||
| hrw | morning | 08:00 |
|---|---|---|
| lag | Morning hrq | 08:00 |
| lag | hrq* | 08:00 |
| lag | Grrrrrrrrr | 08:00 |
| lag | hrw* | 08:00 |
| lag | :) | 08:00 |
| lag | Stupid fancy keyboard! | 08:00 |
| hrw | ;D | 08:01 |
| cooloney | lag: can you boot the .34 panda kernel which was built by yourself? | 09:07 |
| lag | Yes | 09:08 |
| lag | :) | 09:08 |
| lag | I have been playing with it | 09:08 |
| cooloney | lag: excellent, man, good to hear that | 09:09 |
| cooloney | lag: thx | 09:09 |
| lag | cooloney: No problem | 09:09 |
| lag | Do you have HW yet? | 09:10 |
| cooloney | too bad, no | 09:10 |
| cooloney | i don't have omap3 and omap4 | 09:10 |
| lag | Are you going to get HW soon? | 09:10 |
| hrw | igep v2 should be good omap3 testboard. compared to beagleboard (c4/xm) it is available | 09:11 |
| cooloney | hrw: igep v2 is from TI or other vendor? | 09:11 |
| cooloney | lag: no, i think there is no OMAP4 HW for me | 09:12 |
| cooloney | lag: and for omap3, no idea about that | 09:12 |
| lag | That sucks | 09:12 |
| hrw | other | 09:12 |
| cooloney | lag: maybe i need to order some omap3 boards and ship to folks in US, and get the board during next sprint | 09:12 |
| hrw | cooloney: spanish company | 09:13 |
| cooloney | hrw: ok, let me search | 09:13 |
| cooloney | hrw: thx | 09:13 |
| lag | I think I'd find it difficult working on an architecture without HW | 09:13 |
| lag | cooloney: Do you know if a console is configured on HDMI on the Panda board? | 09:14 |
| cooloney | lag: oh, not sure about that, let me check | 09:15 |
| hrw | cooloney: http://shop.igep.es/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=38&zenid=j4novjt0a4t4k1j0o2igoldhm6 | 09:15 |
| amitk | cooloney: we are trying to get some IGEPv2 boards for evalueation | 09:15 |
| hrw | cooloney: 130€ for no wifi/bt, 145€ for wifi/bt | 09:15 |
| amitk | they should work with our kernel, i've enabled it in the configs | 09:16 |
| cooloney | hrw: nice, ehe | 09:16 |
| cooloney | amitk: good to know that. hope i can get one of them to play with | 09:16 |
| amitk | yeah, hope so too | 09:18 |
| === JamieBen1ett is now known as JamieBennett | ||
| cooloney | lag: i am not sure about the HDMI console. so i believe you are using HDMI display with panda, | 09:27 |
| lag | I want to | 09:28 |
| cooloney | lag: can you see anything on it? | 09:28 |
| cooloney | oh, you don't have | 09:28 |
| lag | No, nothing | 09:28 |
| lag | I do have | 09:28 |
| cooloney | oh, how about change some kernel cmdline to add 'console=tty0' or similar | 09:28 |
| lag | When I boot, I get 1,000's of these: omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT | 09:28 |
| lag | That was my follow-up question - Which console ... | 09:29 |
| ukleinek | ericm|ubuntu: I start merging your and mine patches now, OK? (You're not in #armlinux, so this is slightly off-topic) | 09:30 |
| lag | I've been meaning to install a full desktop environment on my new SD card | 09:30 |
| hrw | I wonder how many working pandas are outside of TI | 09:30 |
| ericm|ubuntu | ukleinek, i'm ok | 09:30 |
| cooloney | hrw: skip me, i don't have any | 09:31 |
| cooloney | hrw: ehe | 09:31 |
| lag | hrw: o/ | 09:31 |
| cooloney | lag: hmmm, actually, i have no idea about that. | 09:31 |
| cooloney | sebjan: do you not this console tty0 should be the right one for HDMI console? | 09:32 |
| cooloney | sebjan: i think lag is trying to output our UNR on it | 09:32 |
| ndec | hrw: hi. not man panda outside of TI.. not many inside of TI anyways... | 09:37 |
| ndec | lag: which kernel are you using? | 09:37 |
| amitk | ndec: panda (the board) as endangered as panda (the animal) ? | 09:38 |
| lag | 2.6.34-900-omap4 | 09:38 |
| lag | Maverick | 09:38 |
| ndec | amitk: yep... we are trying to save the animal from disparation ;-) | 09:38 |
| hrw | ndec: yep | 09:39 |
| ndec | lag: do you have a HDMI screen or is it a DVI screen using the HDMI output of the board? | 09:39 |
| lag | It's the real deal | 09:41 |
| lag | HDMI->HDMI | 09:41 |
| ndec | lag: ok. well this should work without any config change, assuming you have the right config in the kernel... but i have not tried on HDMI screen yet. | 09:42 |
| lag | Hmmm | 09:43 |
| lag | ndec: On which console? | 09:45 |
| lag | tty* | 09:46 |
| ndec | lag: don't know. i had tried HDMI->DVI screen several weeks ago with the UNE UI | 09:47 |
| lag | I've just tested the monitor on my Revo running Karmic and it worked fine | 09:47 |
| lag | The DVI port on the Panda has an HDMI socket, so I can't test that | 09:48 |
| ndec | lag: I am using the HDMI port (closest to USB). with the HDMI to DVI cable. I think we have problems with the DVI port. that one shouldn't work either... | 09:50 |
| lag | ndec: No, that doesn't work as far as I can tell | 09:53 |
| lag | But neither does the HDMI | 09:53 |
| lag | ndec: Have you seen this message: omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT | 09:54 |
| ndec | lag: yes... something wrong in DSS2/OMAP4 | 09:56 |
| armin76 | i want one | 09:57 |
| lag | Do you think it will be related to why I don't have HDMI? | 09:57 |
| ukleinek | ericm|ubuntu: do you want to look into my patches 4 to 9 and comment/ack? | 10:00 |
| ericm|ubuntu | ukleinek, OK | 10:00 |
| ukleinek | ericm|ubuntu: well, my 7 = your 2 | 10:01 |
| ndec | lag: yes. | 10:01 |
| armin76 | ndec: can i get a panda? :D | 10:05 |
| ndec | armin76: why do you always ask me the same questions ;-) | 10:06 |
| armin76 | last time it wasn't a question :P | 10:06 |
| ndec | armin76: good point... | 10:06 |
| ndec | armin76: let us know polish it first... | 10:06 |
| armin76 | i want to polish it too :) | 10:07 |
| lool | hrw wants to polish it too! | 10:16 |
| lool | and zyga! | 10:16 |
| lool | (zyga and hrw are in Poland) | 10:16 |
| hrw | Polish man meets English man and says: "I need to polish my English". English man replies: "No, your English is Polish enough". | 10:17 |
| hrw | joke sounds better then looks | 10:17 |
| ndec | hrw: nice... | 10:22 |
| hrw | http://alt-tab.org/data/images/2010/06/angelamerkel.png | 10:22 |
| zyga | lol :-) | 10:38 |
| berco | anyone knows if it is possible to tell debuild to generate both a -dbg package a striped binary version? I know that I need to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt,nostrip for debug but this will provide me only the debug binary. I'd like to generate both in one command if possible | 10:52 |
| lool | berco: Is this a package with -dbg packages in control? | 11:00 |
| lool | berco: What you can do, and what Ubuntu does on all packages, is using pkg-create-dbgsym to achieve that | 11:00 |
| lool | berco: You would build the package as usual, but the build will output -dbgsym packages along the other ones | 11:01 |
| berco | lool: I have not changed the control file for this | 11:01 |
| lool | berco: Just install the package and it should work (you might have to turn it on in /etc) | 11:01 |
| berco | lool: I was looking more for the general rule to achieve this :) | 11:01 |
| berco | lool: thanks. I will give it a try | 11:02 |
| * armin76 steals lool's panda | 11:03 | |
| hrw | armin76: since when he has one? ;D | 11:16 |
| armin76 | he stole it too :D | 11:17 |
| ogra | dyfet, how far are you with the gobject-introspection FTBFS ? | 11:36 |
| === zyga is now known as zyga_away | ||
| ukleinek | npitre: ping | 14:16 |
| ukleinek | npitre: do you care to answer to http://mid.gmane.org/20100611045507.GA10894@pengutronix.de | 14:17 |
| ukleinek | ? | 14:17 |
| berco | lool: ping | 14:21 |
| lool | berco: pong | 14:25 |
| lool | berco: Ideally, don't ping but just ask something so that I dont context switch twice ;-) | 14:25 |
| berco | lool: thx for the dbg, seems to work. | 14:25 |
| lool | Cool | 14:25 |
| berco | lool: I now face another issue | 14:26 |
| berco | lool: I noticed in my source package some files lost the execution privilege | 14:26 |
| berco | lool: any idea how to prevent this? | 14:26 |
| lool | berco: Sorry, what source is this? | 14:27 |
| berco | lool: package that contains source code (apt-get source <package name> | 14:27 |
| lool | berco: Yes, which one? | 14:27 |
| berco | lool: well not public yet, it's for omap4, this is the "tiler" package | 14:28 |
| lool | berco: Ok; would be easier to suggest a fix for a public source package | 14:28 |
| lool | berco: So which file is losing the +x bit exactly and at which point? | 14:29 |
| berco | lool: code has never been package. it's available but not in deb format yet. Am working on it... | 14:29 |
| lool | berco: There are two places where that can happen: in your source files, because of the source packaging format, or in the resulting .debs | 14:29 |
| berco | lool: this is bootstrap.sh file | 14:29 |
| lool | berco: are you saying that the +x is lost when you unpack the source package, or in the resulting .debs? | 14:29 |
| berco | lool: I need to check. I just did an "apt-get source" and noticed it's lost | 14:30 |
| lool | berco: Right, so while unpacking the source | 14:30 |
| lool | berco: So this is expected in the default source package format | 14:30 |
| lool | berco: you could of course change the source format, but there's something odd here | 14:31 |
| lool | berco: Usually, bootstrap.sh is part of the "upstream" tarball, the .orig.tar.gz | 14:31 |
| lool | berco: Files in this tarball wouldn't lose this bit | 14:31 |
| lool | berco: What might have happened here is that you intended to ship this file in the tarball, but it got shipped as part of the packaging instead | 14:31 |
| berco | lool: ok, so I need to check b'cos this file should be in my .orig.tar.gz | 14:32 |
| lool | berco: You really want this file to be in the upstream tarball I guess | 14:32 |
| lool | berco: Please do | 14:32 |
| berco | lool: thanks, that would make sense. I will check | 14:32 |
| lool | berco: Also, might be best to just ask the chan rather than me specifically -- will get you faster answers, spread the load, and also I dont actually work on omap4 stuff (yet?) but others here do | 14:32 |
| berco | lool: ok. Sorry I'm new to the Linux world so learning all the habits and stuff | 14:33 |
| lool | berco: This is fine; I hope you don't mind me telling you | 14:35 |
| berco | lool: not at all, just noticed you knew quite well the pcakaging topci | 14:36 |
| berco | :q | 14:48 |
| berco | when packaging from the .orig.tar.gz, I created a patch to move files but those that have +x attribute will lose it in the .deb source package. Anyone knows how that can be fixed. I want to keep the +x on these file. | 14:58 |
| berco | btw, I'm using cdbs-edit-patch for creating the patch | 15:00 |
| lool | berco: Why do you move the files? and why in a patch? | 15:02 |
| berco | lool: git tree has the source code in a subfolder | 15:03 |
| berco | lool: am not really allowed to change this and I created the orig.tar.gz with the simple "git archive" command | 15:03 |
| lool | berco: You could either tell your package to build in a subfolder rather than build from the top, or you could release tarballs from the proper level? | 15:03 |
| berco | lool: might be simpler in my case to build from the subfolder until the upstream maintainer modifies the git tree | 15:04 |
| lool | berco: Without moving files in the git repo, could you strip a component when creating the tarball? | 15:04 |
| lool | berco: Ok; if you're not upstream, then just go for the sub-folder build | 15:05 |
| lool | berco: Set DEB_SRCDIR near the top of your rules if you're using cdbs | 15:05 |
| berco | lool: yes, am using cdb | 15:05 |
| lool | The default is ".", you could set it to subfolder or to $(CURDIR)/subfolder if you need an absolute pathname | 15:06 |
| berco | lool: cdbs. I will try this, that sounds the most reasonable at this point | 15:06 |
| === ericm|ubuntu is now known as ericm-Zzz | ||
| in-game | anybody formilliar with the sharp netwalker? | 16:48 |
| lag | in-game: What's up? | 16:56 |
| GrueMaster | in-game: persia might be the one to ask, but he's on holiday. | 16:57 |
| GrueMaster | I believe he has one, though. | 16:57 |
| in-game | ahh ok | 16:57 |
| in-game | sweet device but the ubuntu running is 9.04 | 16:57 |
| GrueMaster | yep. | 16:57 |
| in-game | so i am searching for a way to upgrade somehw | 16:58 |
| in-game | now running lxdm to make it some faster | 16:58 |
| amitk | in-game: unlikely you'll be able to upgrade | 16:58 |
| GrueMaster | I don't think it supports 10.04. Iirc, it was a hardware issue. | 16:58 |
| amitk | the kernel hasn't been mainlined | 16:58 |
| in-game | thought so | 16:59 |
| in-game | pitty, the arm packages are some what lagging behind | 16:59 |
| amitk | in-game: it is mostly kernel and any binary drivers if reqd. | 17:00 |
| GrueMaster | There were some hardware changes between 9.04 & 10.04. The newer kernels in 10.04 were never made to support the older hardware rev. | 17:00 |
| npitre | ukleinek: sorry | 17:00 |
| GrueMaster | If you are kernel savvy, you could probably forward port the changes though. | 17:01 |
| amitk | in-game: the rest of the arm packages have been carried forward just fine | 17:01 |
| in-game | ok, yeah i wanted to update lxdm because of the network xplore function | 17:02 |
| GrueMaster | Unfortunately 9.04 packages are built for ARMv5 and 10.04 were built for ARMv7. It would be like running x86_64 code on an Intel Pentium (P5). | 17:03 |
| amitk | in-game: you could enable the lucid repo in /etc/apt/sources.list and only upgrade certain packages | 17:04 |
| amitk | GrueMaster: the processor is a ARMv7 | 17:04 |
| GrueMaster | amitk: The processor may be, but the kernel doesn't have support for it. | 17:04 |
| in-game | amitk tried that, but it deleted my x packages somehow | 17:04 |
| in-game | tried it twice now | 17:05 |
| amitk | GrueMaster: in-game does NOT want to upgrade the kernel, just the desktop. He can do that if the dependencies were carried over correctly | 17:06 |
| amitk | in-game: it is quite possible that the new version of the desktop brings in a new version of X which ofcourse doesn't have new version of some display driver or similar. That could kill your X | 17:07 |
| in-game | yups. | 17:09 |
| in-game | so hm first uprade the x | 17:10 |
| in-game | can add 10.04 to the repro and upgrade just without the kernel? | 17:10 |
| amitk | in-game: are you trying a 9.04->10.04 upgrade direct? | 17:11 |
| in-game | hmm | 17:11 |
| in-game | yeps | 17:11 |
| amitk | that is probably untested. Have you tried a 9.04->9.10 ? | 17:11 |
| in-game | maye first 9.10 | 17:11 |
| in-game | not yet | 17:11 |
| in-game | heh that is pretty good one :) | 17:12 |
| NCommander | amitk: in-game: this is probably a bad idea. Netwalker kernel is very dated, and doesn't have proper thumb2 handling support which is required for lucid (you might get karmic to work) | 17:12 |
| amitk | NCommander: that is what I just suggested ^^ :) | 17:13 |
| in-game | yep :) | 17:13 |
| * NCommander brain farts, and goes to hide in a corner | 17:13 | |
| in-game | no need for hiding, I tried it twice.... >< | 17:15 |
| amitk | hehe | 17:16 |
| in-game | Well lets try a update! | 17:21 |
| in-game | thanks for the info people | 17:21 |
| in-game | Speak to you later, if it works I will be back soon | 17:21 |
| === hrw is now known as hrw|gone | ||
| ojn | Lucid isn't built with neon enabled by default, right? | 20:52 |
| cwillu_at_work | neon in what? | 20:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | libpixman includes neon routines for instance | 20:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | but as far as I know, gcc never outputs neon instructions automatically | 20:54 |
| ojn | huh. that won't run on Dove then... | 20:54 |
| slangasek | various packages include neon-optimized routines as alternatives but they're expected to work on non-neon systems too | 20:55 |
| cwillu_at_work | I'll check, but I'd expect there to be guard clauses | 20:55 |
| cwillu_at_work | exactly | 20:55 |
| armin76 | ojn: its not | 20:55 |
| ojn | ok, thanks. | 20:56 |
| armin76 | ojn: last time i checked ubntu had an old version of pixman which didn't had the neon routines | 20:56 |
| armin76 | iirc pixman compiled automatically with neon, but it gets disabled/enabled at runtime | 20:57 |
| armin76 | ssvb: is the master here :D | 20:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | armin76, pixman-0.16.4 has some neon fastpaths | 20:59 |
| cwillu_at_work | I'm looking at apt-get source libpixman-1-0 | 20:59 |
| cwillu_at_work | doesn't have the more recent work done in january though | 21:00 |
| armin76 | cwillu_at_work: as i said, ssvb should know for sure :) | 21:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | armin76, argument screens off authority :p | 21:01 |
| armin76 | iirc the neon stuff was reworked on >0.16 by ssvb itself :) | 21:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | i.e., I'm looking at the source code :) | 21:01 |
| lool | ojn, armin76, cwillu_at_work: lucid's and maverick's pixman have some NEON bits which are detected at runtime (via /proc/self/auxv) | 22:44 |
| === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] | ||
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