[00:01] <tpjmiami> funny enough, that same webpage suggests replacing pulseaudio w/ esound: sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio && sudo aptitude install esound
[00:28] <tpjmiami> will be back tomorrow, thks
[00:38] <GoddessNemesis> hi
[00:38] <Silver_Fox_> O/
[00:38]  * GoddessNemesis is aka switchgirl
[00:38] <Silver_Fox_> Can see :)
[00:39] <Silver_Fox_> Did you fix your usb ?
[00:39] <GoddessNemesis> almost
[00:39] <Silver_Fox_> \o/
[00:41] <GoddessNemesis> thanks
[00:41] <GoddessNemesis> i thin it's the desktop to be honest
[00:50] <Silver_Fox_> What makes you think that?
[00:54] <GoddessNemesis> darn missd him i was brushing my teeth
[02:05] <sinnet> Hi, I need to install cuda sdk for using md5 crack gpu... i didn't found it it on repos, so i started looking for information, and i found a way which is downloading from nvidia.com a .run file for ubuntu 10.4, getting ggc-4.3 and making a couple of symlinks
[02:05] <sinnet> the thing is, i'd like to be able to remove the package
[02:07] <sinnet> just not just compile it blindy using the script included in the .run file
[02:08] <stlsaint> you should be able to purge anything you install on your system
[02:08] <aveilleux> ......
[02:09] <aveilleux> "cuda sdk for using md5 crack gpu"?
[02:09] <stlsaint> yea that is a mouthful tbh
[02:09] <aveilleux> The um
[02:09] <aveilleux> the md5sum isn't anything you need to crack
[02:09] <aveilleux> It's not a code
[02:09] <paultag> sinnet: do you know what you are doing?
[02:10] <paultag> sinnet: you know cuda is only for nvidia, right?
[02:10] <sinnet> yeah, i want to experiment cracking MD5 hashes using GPU
[02:10] <stlsaint> download from nvidia????
[02:10] <sinnet> i know cuda is from nvidia...
[02:10] <paultag> stlsaint: yeah
[02:10] <paultag> stlsaint: cuda is nvidia only
[02:10] <stlsaint> aye
[02:10] <sinnet> i have the nvidia driver installed of course...
[02:11] <sinnet> the propietary one, and i have an nvidia card
[02:11] <paultag> sinnet: you're going to have a hell of a time. I worked with cuda for a while under gnu/linux, and it was rough around the edges
[02:11] <paultag> sinnet: you can try and write it in python in five minutes
[02:11] <paultag> sinnet: just don't save it to the disk, if you try and do all 8 length combos you will be well over a TB
[02:11] <stlsaint> paultag: LOL...that was the first task you gave me and i still have yet to write that!! :D
[02:12] <paultag> sinnet: so start with md5 from 1-4 and learn from then up. Don't forget non keyboaord utf symbols
[02:12] <paultag> stlsaint: :D
[02:12] <paultag> stlsaint: sure was :)
[02:12] <sinnet> lol... paultag
[02:12] <sinnet> rainbow tables would be easier
[02:12] <paultag> sinnet: as you can tell, I've done all this before ;)
[02:12] <paultag> sinnet: but they take up terabytes to be useful
[02:12] <sinnet> i know...
[02:12] <paultag> sinnet: and that's only for unsalted for under 8 chars
[02:12] <sinnet> yep
[02:12] <paultag> sinnet: write it in python
[02:13] <sinnet> look, i just want to use cuda enabled software
[02:13] <paultag> sinnet: it takes a few minutes
[02:13] <paultag> sinnet: it will take a long time to get CUDA running, and I spend my life on GNU/Linux
[02:13] <paultag> sinnet: it took me a long while, and I'm not a n00b
[02:13] <paultag> jsut saying
[02:13] <paultag> it's not easy
[02:14] <sinnet> I understand... and i am not that of a noob too..
[02:14] <paultag> sinnet: if you want to play with md5 hashes, write it. CUDA will only be more effective at large cracks
[02:14] <paultag> stlsaint: and since you are "just playing with it" I would strongly advise you don't do it that way
[02:14] <paultag> erm sinnet *
[02:15] <sinnet> i wanna see if it is feasible to crack certain passwords... even cain & abel in windows is going slow
[02:15] <paultag> sinnet: then that becomes the grey area where we can't help
[02:15] <sinnet> i could run md5 crack gpu in windows, but that wont mean learning
[02:15] <sinnet> i am not cracking everyone mate...
[02:15] <paultag> sinnet: we can only help with 100% not-even-close-to-anything-that-can-be-illigal stuff
[02:16] <sinnet> i generated my own hashes
[02:16] <sinnet> and i wanna crack them you see
[02:16] <paultag> sinnet: read what I just wrote
[02:16] <paultag> sinnet: that can be applied to illicit stuff, even though no one uses unsalted MD5s, we can't go there
[02:16] <sinnet> cant help with cuda??
[02:17] <paultag> No sinnet, you are using it for that grey area. We can't help here
[02:17] <paultag> sinnet: go find some programming guides for cuda
[02:17] <paultag> sinnet: those will help get it installed
[02:17] <paultag> sinnet: good luck, don't fuck up :)
[02:17] <sinnet> so basically
[02:17] <sinnet> theres not easy way in lucid??
[02:17] <paultag> sinnet: there is, but we can not help here
[02:18] <sinnet> good.. ok
[02:19] <sinnet> i have another question
[02:19] <sinnet> totally unrelated
[02:19] <paultag> sinnet: what's up.
[02:19] <sinnet> I figured out a way to use ffado and jack with my external audio interface card
[02:20] <paultag> sinnet: kk, ye
[02:21] <sinnet> but i want to be able to connect what goes to pulseaudio to jack.. and i found a ppa that is supposed to have pulseaudio configured for jacksupport, you just have to edit the modules
[02:21] <sinnet> so well, darn, it didnt work, rhymbox or firefox would crash
[02:21] <paultag> sinnet: that ruins the reason you have JACK
[02:22] <sinnet> but it replaced the original libpulse0
[02:22] <paultag> sinnet: it's for low latency audio, pulse would bog down JACK
[02:22] <sinnet> i know, but i just wanna listen to stuff with my external firewire card
[02:22] <sinnet> ffado is not supported in pulseaudio
[02:22] <paultag> sinnet: use JACK apps for doing what those pulse apps do
[02:22] <paultag> sinnet: mplayer supports JACK
[02:22] <sinnet> rhymbox doesnt support jack
[02:22] <sinnet> i use vlc for now
[02:22] <paultag> sinnet: rb sucks
[02:22] <sinnet> umm....
[02:23] <paultag> sinnet: there is a winamp clone for it as well
[02:23] <paultag> sinnet: and mpd works too, I think
[02:23] <sinnet> audacius, but jack plugin is wrong
[02:23] <sinnet> i dont know why.... it outputs low volume
[02:23] <paultag> I've never had an issue with it
[02:23] <paultag> sinnet: turn it up :D
[02:23] <sinnet> it is really down
[02:23] <paultag> sinnet: run it through JACK Rack worst case
[02:23] <paultag> sinnet: and throw the gain up
[02:23] <sinnet> ummm
[02:23] <paultag> sinnet: install patchage if you don't have it already
[02:24] <paultag> you'll be needing that
[02:24]  * zkriesse waves to paultag
[02:24] <paultag> hey zkriesse
[02:24] <sinnet> i have jack control
[02:24] <paultag> sinnet: that's for controlling the jack daemon
[02:24] <sinnet> i configure the patches there
[02:24] <paultag> sinnet: trust me, patchage
[02:25] <paultag> sinnet: I use jack in my recording studio, patchage is the way to go
[02:25] <sinnet> k will try mate
[02:25] <paultag> sinnet: good luck :)
[02:26] <sinnet> have you been using firefox in flash sites
[02:26] <sinnet> with jackd daemon on??
[02:26] <sinnet> because it normally causes crashes here
[02:26] <paultag> sinnet: no, it's a recording studio. I take MIDI  and audio in and record it
[02:26] <paultag> sinnet: I have a desktop for my normal work
[02:26] <sinnet> you are lucky
[02:26] <Vantrax> hey paultag
[02:26] <paultag> and a netbook
[02:26] <sinnet> i wish i could just use ffado throught pulseaudio
[02:26] <paultag> heyya Vantrax
[02:26] <Vantrax> i have a challange for you
[02:26] <paultag> Vantrax: sup brother
[02:26] <paultag> Vantrax: I'm here
[02:26] <paultag> sinnet: aye
[02:27] <paultag> sinnet: talk with the programmers who designed it
[02:27] <Vantrax> ive been trying to find a way to chance the face browser logo without using ubuntu tweak
[02:27] <paultag> Vantrax: what face logo? the icon?
[02:27] <Vantrax> the Ubuntu logo
[02:27] <sinnet> well, they are not very active paultag, besides, you know, when i turn on the firewire interface, i have to boot to windows first
[02:27] <sinnet> so it can output sound
[02:27] <paultag> Vantrax: /usr/share/icons
[02:27] <paultag> sinnet: wtf
[02:28] <paultag> Vantrax: just replace the dist-icon ( or something like that )
[02:28] <paultag> Vantrax: it's all in there
[02:28] <Vantrax> that simple....
[02:28] <paultag> Vantrax: just make gnome-vantrax and mod the gnome/ theme
[02:28] <paultag> Vantrax: don't forget the scalable svgs as well :)
[02:28] <sinnet> its a bebob device, its just luck i can get it to work, because the developers dont have this exact model
[02:29] <paultag> sinnet: keep bugging them
[02:29] <sinnet> so it seems that when i start to windows it sends the mixer configuration
[02:29] <paultag> sinnet: developers love that
[02:29] <sinnet> i might try that
[02:29] <paultag> sinnet: lets them know someone uses it
[02:29] <Vantrax> paultag just want to change that one image, that is supposed to be a 64x64 png file
[02:30] <paultag> Vantrax: wait... I think we are talking about two different things
[02:30] <paultag> Vantrax: the GDM login, or once you are in GNOME ?
[02:30] <Vantrax> gdm
[02:30] <sinnet> paultag, how much time do you have using ubuntu?
[02:30] <Vantrax> the face browser
[02:30] <paultag> Vantrax: even easier!!!
[02:30] <Vantrax> the applet you see
[02:30] <paultag> Vantrax: /usr/share/icons, there is a folder for the GDM icon set
[02:31] <Vantrax> which one is that?
[02:31] <paultag> sinnet: since 2007, before that it was Debian from 05 ish, and before that Mandrake from 2001
[02:31] <paultag> Vantrax: sec, let me look it up. 10.04, yeah?
[02:31] <Vantrax> yeah
[02:31] <Vantrax> been trying to work this out for a few days
[02:31] <paultag> Vantrax: LoginIcons
[02:32] <paultag> Vantrax: Vantrax /usr/share/icons/LoginIcons/apps/64
[02:32] <paultag> Vantrax: eog computer.png
[02:32] <paultag> Vantrax: that one ?
[02:32] <Vantrax> that looks like it, ill back it up and swap it and see
[02:32] <paultag> Vantrax: kk :)
[02:32] <paultag> Vantrax: you can add a divert and add a .deb for your mod, and use that for your hack :D
[02:35] <paultag> Vantrax: let me know :)
[02:36] <paultag> ewww ZachK_
[02:36] <ZachK_> paultag: well i'm gonna connect on my ipod
[02:36] <ZachK_> paultag: so i change the nick and boom...there i go
[02:36] <ZachK_> paultag: suck it up pretty boy
[02:37] <paultag> noted
[02:38] <paultag> zkriesse: you should fix up yer cloak
[02:38] <paultag> zkriesse: it's still zackk
[02:38] <paultag> #freenode
[02:38] <zkriesse> paultag: I know...I've asked
[02:39] <paultag> zkriesse: what did they say?
[02:39] <Vantrax> that did it paultag thanks
[02:39] <paultag> Vantrax: sure thing, bud. Have a screenshot for me? I'd love to see the mod :)
[02:40] <Vantrax> can you do a printscreen on the login?
[02:40] <zkriesse> paultag: Dont remeber
[02:40] <paultag> Vantrax: not sure
[02:40] <sinnet> paultag: when you use a software that is not available or updated in repos, do you checkinstall or create a package??
[02:40] <paultag> sinnet: me personally?
[02:41] <sinnet> Yes, what the seasoned users prefer
[02:41] <sinnet> what's your approach
[02:41] <paultag> sinnet: I wrote my own package manager I usually use, but before that I usually rolled a crude .deb. Checkinstall has issues, but is nice for the new user
[02:41] <Vantrax> do we know what the screenshot app is called, i can run the desktop file on startup
[02:41] <paultag> Vantrax: sec
[02:41] <paultag> gnome-screenshot something
[02:41] <paultag> sec
[02:41] <paultag> Oh that's it
[02:41] <paultag> Vantrax: gnome-screenshot
[02:41] <sinnet> paultag: what kind of issues? (send me a link if you want)
[02:42] <paultag> sinnet: with non-libtool make files I think it threw a shitfit. I can't recall exactly, but I remember it giving me shit, and one day I decided to ditch it
[02:42] <paultag> it's debs sucked as well ( the output debs )
[02:42] <paultag> you would never give them to anyone
[02:43] <sinnet> oh, yes, i read about that
[02:43] <sinnet> so maybe the best approach would be to make crude debs??
[02:44] <paultag> second best is never the best
[02:45] <sinnet> uum
[02:46] <sinnet> did you release the packet manager or is just a little private project??
[02:46] <paultag> sinnet: it's not done yet
[02:46] <paultag> sinnet: I never release unstable code as production
[02:47] <sinnet> but the source is public?
[02:47] <paultag> sinnet: yes, but undocumented, buggy and apt to drive one insane
[02:47] <sinnet> lol..
[02:47] <sinnet> good luck with it mate
[02:48] <sinnet> have a good day, night, whateaver it is for you
[02:48] <paultag> sinnet: thanks, I enjoy working on it
[02:48] <sinnet> gotta go now bye
[02:48] <paultag> sinnet: later
[02:48] <paultag> Gawd.
[04:58] <JackJelinek> hey guys first time Ubuntu user, loving it so far but i have one question: does anyone know how to get a Creative Labs SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-BIT PCI Sound Card working on the newest ubuntu distro?
[04:59] <ddecator> that's very specific :)
[04:59] <JackJelinek> well I've tried to google it and i can't find anything before 2008 and none of those have worked out for me
[05:00] <ddecator> hm, i'm wondering where to look to see if the kernel supports the card..
[05:00] <JackJelinek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[05:01] <JackJelinek> im trying to follow this to see if it even sees my card but i dont know
[05:02] <ddecator> lspci | grep Audio
[05:03] <JackJelinek> hmmm?
[05:05] <ddecator> that command might show the card
[05:05] <JackJelinek> this is what i got: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[05:05] <JackJelinek> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
[05:05] <ddecator> hm, a couple years ago they started adding X-Fi support to ALSA..
[05:06] <JackJelinek> what is ALSA?
[05:07] <goodtime> i think its a script
[05:07] <goodtime> like java
[05:07] <ddecator> it used to manage sound on ubuntu, now pulse is used on top of it
[05:07] <goodtime> lol
[05:08] <JackJelinek> any idea what i can do to get this working then? its very boring being in this house with it totally silent :P
[05:08] <goodtime> go to system topp bar
[05:08] <goodtime> admin
[05:09] <goodtime> hardwear drivers
[05:09] <ddecator> it sounds like it should work out of box. it could be a few different things
[05:09] <ddecator> the driver went opensource two years ago
[05:09] <goodtime> huh
[05:10] <JackJelinek> okay when i pressed hardware drivers i got ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver and thats it
[05:10] <goodtime> yep
[05:10] <ddecator> and the area on the creative site that hosts the opensource drivers won't load for me atm :/
[05:11] <goodtime> its what i did though i run 2 monitors well also
[05:11] <JackJelinek> oh yeah if we're on the subject of that how do i enable both my monitors? hah im full of problems
[05:11] <ddecator> goodtime: wanna help with that? ^ :)
[05:11] <goodtime> took me 1 hour to figure that out
[05:12] <ddecator> JackJelinek: the best i can find for the sound issue at the moment is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:13] <ddecator> definitely not ideal, it _should_ work automatically from the sound of things..
[05:13] <goodtime> i just go to the nivdia drive settings there and set it
[05:13] <goodtime> this one will have togo to it anyhow
[05:13] <ddecator> oh yah, nvidia has the separate xorg settings thing
[05:14] <ddecator> i know xrandr was used to handle multiple monitors, but i can't remember if that's the current or the old way of doing it..
[05:15] <goodtime> yeah thats true
[05:15] <JackJelinek> i recently reinstalled this and i did it somehow last time by getting the catalyst control thing... but i cant figure out how to download it again. Linux is confusing...
[05:15] <ddecator> does System > Preferences > Monitors give the option to add multiple monitors?
[05:15] <goodtime> yes
[05:16] <ddecator> JackJelinek: any new OS is confusing at first :)
[05:16] <goodtime> oh yeah
[05:16] <JackJelinek> nope it says it only detects the one... except its on both at the same time
[05:16] <goodtime> chose
[05:17] <JackJelinek> what?
[05:17] <JackJelinek> ill be right back
[05:18] <JackJelinek> okay got both my monitors working :)
[05:19] <goodtime> sweet
[05:20] <ddecator> that's progress :)
[05:20] <JackJelinek> if i install the alsa driver for this will that maybe enable sound?
[05:20] <goodtime> update your system
[05:21] <GoddessNemesis> anyone know about how much of the uk cant get online
[05:21] <GoddessNemesis> ?
[05:21] <goodtime> nope
[05:22] <JackJelinek> update my system how exactly? I hate being such a noob in this.
[05:23] <ddecator> GoddessNemesis: nope
[05:23] <ddecator> JackJelinek: alsa is installed by default. you can update by using the terminal or running the update manager
[05:24] <JackJelinek> hmmm... okay.
[05:25] <GoddessNemesis> aww]
[05:29] <JackJelinek> okay i just downloaded 201mb of updates so hopefully it will be somewhere in there
[05:30] <ddecator> wow..
[05:30] <ddecator> JackJelinek: Ubuntu 10.04?
[05:30] <JackJelinek> whichever is the most recent.
[05:30] <JackJelinek> that sounds right...
[05:30] <ddecator> yup :)
[05:30] <ddecator> sounds like you may have never updated since installing
[05:31] <JackJelinek> yeah i havent... so lets hope this works!
[05:31]  * ddecator crosses fingers
[05:31] <Megamoose> trying to boot ubuntu 10.04 with old dv1000 hp laptop - hangs at broadcom bcm43# driver loading - i've turned off the wifi transceiver, no luck.  Any ideas?  thanks,
[05:32] <Megamoose> instructions on updating firmware are very complicated - not something I know much about
[05:33] <ddecator> Megamoose: did you install the proprietary broadcom driver?
[05:34] <Megamoose> no, have not tried that as I don't get past the booting process - i'm working off a usb stick - gets hung up and doesnt let me get into ubunut
[05:35] <Megamoose> is there a
[05:35] <ddecator> ah, ok. did you see a log that told you it was freezing when trying to load the driver?
[05:35] <Megamoose> a "safe" mode to boot up in?
[05:35] <ddecator> there's a recovery mode you can choose from the GRUB boot menu
[05:36] <Megamoose> yea, gave me a web page for firmware updates
[05:37] <ddecator> a web page?
[05:37] <goodtime> thats differnt
[05:38] <Megamoose> trying to re-create to read the message
[05:43] <Megamoose> the message reads (in part) [36.951154 ] ERROR:  firmware file "b43-open/ucode5.fw" not found, go to http:/wireless.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#device and download the correct firmware for this driver version
[05:43] <Megamoose> also missing are "b43-open/ucode5.fw
[05:44] <goodtime> oops
[05:44] <ddecator> well that's strange..
[05:44] <Megamoose> my laptop model is not listed - when i go to that page
[05:44] <goodtime> hrh
[05:46] <ddecator> unfortunately i've never run into a firmware issue like that before, so i'm not sure what needs to be done..
[05:47] <kermiac> Megamoose: can you boot into the recovery console?
[05:47] <ddecator> kermiac: hey mate :)
[05:48] <kermiac> howdy ddecator :)
[05:48] <Megamoose> sorry - dont know how to boot into recover console.
[05:48] <Megamoose> i can get to the boot prompt - what do i do then?
[05:49] <goodtime> tasksel i thing Megamoose
[05:49] <goodtime> think*
[05:50] <kermiac> ok, when you're booting hold the left shift... ok, then select the 2nd line (should have  recovery mode in brackets at the end of the line)
[05:50] <Megamoose> sorry - i'm a REAL newby!  is "tasksel" a command?
[05:51] <goodtime> Megamoose: what kermiac said
[05:52] <kermiac> Megamoose: from the boot menu - select the 2nd line (should have recovery mode in brackets at the end of the line)
[05:52] <Megamoose> i'm booting from usb stick - it tells me "loading /casper/vmlinuz
[05:53] <kermiac> Megamoose: then press enter... after it continues to boot you should have another menu. ensure your ethernet cable is connected & select netroot
[05:53] <kermiac> Megamoose: hang on
[05:53] <kermiac> Megamoose: are you using a live usb?
[05:54] <Megamoose> pluging in ethernet
[05:54] <Megamoose> the usb stick is one i just made a few days ago - ubuntu 10.04
[05:55] <goodtime> cool
[05:56] <kermiac> Megamoose: ok, at the bootmenu do you have something similar to http://apcmag.com/system/files/images/ubuntu30.jpg
[05:57] <Megamoose> no, i dont get that far - i'm at the installer menu
[05:57] <Megamoose> run ubuntu from this usb, install ubuntu on hard disk, etc.
[05:58] <Megamoose> i have to stop the running to get to the boot prompt
[05:58] <goodtime> so ypur live
[05:58] <goodtime> your*
[05:59] <Megamoose> if i type "live vga=771 noacpi nolacpi" at the boot prompt, then i get to the point where it hangs with that message abt the b43 firmware missing
[06:00] <goodtime> so the copy is bad
[06:01] <Megamoose> ive tried the same with a cd rom, downloaded twice the iso file...
[06:01] <goodtime> idk about that much im a noob in many ways
[06:02] <goodtime> heh
[06:02] <Megamoose> gootime: you prob have this stuff more in your head then others since it's still fresh! I appreciate the help!!
[06:02] <kermiac> Megamoose: did you check the md5sum of the iso to ensure it is not corrupted?
[06:03] <Megamoose> yea, i should do that - but the stick works on a newer fujitsu laptop
[06:03] <Megamoose> the fujitsu loads just fine
[06:03] <goodtime> sweet
[06:03] <kermiac> Megamoose: if it works on another pc fine then we can rule that out
[06:04] <kermiac> Megamoose: have you tried booting with the wireless disabled?
[06:04] <Megamoose> yes, disabled and still same
[06:04] <kermiac> strange
[06:04] <Megamoose> i can upload the error message as i took a pic
[06:05] <kermiac> Megamoose: that would be good
[06:05] <kermiac> Megamoose: also, what model laptop are you using?
[06:05] <Megamoose> hp dv1000
[06:10] <Megamoose> OK, here's the error message i get:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/17789024@N03/4708440572/sizes/l/
[06:13] <kermiac> Megamoose: can you try booting by adding "nomodeset" to your boot paremeter? so that would make it ""live vga=771 nomodeset"
[06:13] <Megamoose> ok, will try
[06:15] <Megamoose> giving me the littledots below ubuntu
[06:15] <Megamoose> nope, no luck - same error message
[06:15] <Megamoose> about the b43 firmware file
[06:16] <Megamoose> even if i found the right firmware file, where would i put it?  in the usb stick i would guess, but anywhere?
[06:20] <kermiac> Megamoose: do you know what video card the laptop has? nvidia, intel or ati?
[06:20] <Megamoose> intel
[06:21] <Megamoose> kermiac; gotta reboot in windows to get the model
[06:23] <kermiac> Megamoose: can you please try adding "i915.modeset=0" (w/o quotes) to your boot options
[06:24] <Megamoose> ok,
[06:28] <Megamoose> kermiac:  ha!! i tried a brief other experiment:  loading ubuntu 8.04 - it splashed the same error message but i'm in now - on 8.04 running off cd-rom!!
[06:29] <kermiac> Megamoose: yeah, I am thinking that is more of a warning message & that the intel graphics & KMS is more likely to be the issue
[06:29] <Megamoose> i'm trying your suggestion now
[06:29] <kermiac> Megamoose: I can't find the ubuntu wiki page right now, but the kubuntu wiki page should be the same - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[06:31] <Megamoose> kermiac: running your suggestion now
[06:31] <kermiac> Megamoose: found the ubuntu wiki doc - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[06:33] <Megamoose> kermiac:  sorry, same error message - only in bright red font color, go figure!
[06:34] <kermiac> Megamoose: please look at the wiki page i linked above. I messed up the command option
[06:34] <kermiac> Megamoose: please see the "From the Live CD Section" - Add "i915.modeset=1" after "quiet splash".
[06:36] <Megamoose> kermiac: the "quiet splash" being the ubuntu logo with four dots below?
[06:37] <kermiac> Megamoose: no, that should be part of the boot options on the livecd
[06:37] <kermiac> Megamoose: 1) At the purple screen with a keyboard and stickfigure, press Enter to get to the menu.
[06:37] <kermiac> 2) Hit Enter to select your language, and then press F6 and then Esc.
[06:37] <kermiac> 3) Add "i915.modeset=1" after "quiet splash".
[06:37] <kermiac> 4) Press Enter to boot the LiveCD.
[06:37] <kermiac> !pastebin | kermiac
[06:37] <ubot2> kermiac, please see my private message
[06:43] <ddecator> kermiac: you can message ubot if you want info for yourself :p
[06:43] <Megamoose> kermiac: i'm in!!
[06:43] <kermiac> w00t!
[06:44] <Megamoose> i did the complete line "live vga=771 noapic nolapic i915.modeset=1
[06:44] <Megamoose> it worked!
[06:44] <kermiac> very good :)
[06:46] <Megamoose> kermiac:  thank you very much!! it's just about 11 pm in CA - i'm going to call it a night!!  thank you very much again!!
[06:46] <kermiac> no problems Megamoose, I'm glad it got sorted out for you :)
[06:47] <ddecator> i think kermiac has earned some extra BT karma :)
[06:48] <kermiac> thanks Dray :)
[06:48] <kermiac> ok, I'm outta here - finally finished work, time to head home. I'll bbl
[10:56] <PaulVe> Hello
[18:26] <JackJelinek> hey guys can someone help me enabling sound on ubuntu with my creative x-fi extreme audio
[18:27] <JackJelinek> i had some people help me last night on this and i finally got ubuntu to recognize my card but on my KDE control module my card is greyed out and i can't actually use it. something came up saying KDE thought the sound card was unnessisary and could be removed.... any idea how to enable this card?
[18:28] <zkriesse> !audio
[18:28] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[18:31] <JackJelinek> now it says there is no hardware...
[18:37] <JackJelinek> no one has any clue?
[18:41] <zkriesse> JackJelinek: Ok please be patient...
[18:42] <zkriesse> JackJelinek: If those are here that are in the channel then they are most likely trying to search for an answer....remember, we are all here on a volunteer basis...we do have lives too...well, some of us do anyway
[18:44] <paultag> JackJelinek: have you tried this == http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649908
[18:45] <JackJelinek> yes, i have been trying to install OSS (which it says on a link i went to from there)
[18:45] <paultag> JackJelinek: no need
[18:46] <paultag> JackJelinek: it is already on ubuntu iirc
[18:46] <paultag> JackJelinek: looks like it worked for Bruno there
[18:47] <paultag> JackJelinek: so try his stuff
[18:47] <paultag> JackJelinek: and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571656&highlight=xfi
[18:48] <JackJelinek> i'm super new to Ubuntu and Linux so all this on this page is alien to me.
[18:50] <JackJelinek> how do i install a .tar.bz2?
[18:51] <paultag> JackJelinek: it's kind hard. What are you tring to install?
[18:51] <JackJelinek> http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg21618.html
[18:52] <paultag> JackJelinek: that is a downgrade
[18:52] <paultag> JackJelinek: that's new in 2007, it's 1.0.15
[18:52] <paultag> JackJelinek: we are on 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3
[18:52] <JackJelinek> gaaaah why isn't this working then
[18:53] <paultag> JackJelinek: is the volume unmuted?
[18:53] <JackJelinek> i can't mute or unmute because it says i have no sound hardware
[18:53] <paultag> JackJelinek: is this internal or external
[18:53] <paultag> JackJelinek: e.g. pci or usb
[18:53] <JackJelinek> pci
[18:54] <paultag> JackJelinek: pastebin lspci
[18:54] <paultag> !pastebin | JackJelinek
[18:54] <ubot2> JackJelinek: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:55] <JackJelinek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/451216/
[18:55] <paultag> kk
[18:55] <paultag> well good news is that it sees it
[18:55] <paultag> 03:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster
[18:55] <JackJelinek> now i just wish i could enable it :P
[18:55] <paultag> sec JackJelinek
[18:56] <paultag> JackJelinek: pastebin the following two commands
[18:56] <paultag> sudo aplay -l
[18:56] <paultag> lspci -v
[18:56] <paultag> I need to see if you have a module for it
[18:57] <JackJelinek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/451223/
[18:58] <paultag> whoh
[18:58] <paultag> you don't have aplay ?
[18:58] <JackJelinek> i dont know what that is?
[18:58] <JackJelinek> so guess not? hah
[18:58] <paultag> \Kernel driver in use: oss_audigyls
[18:58] <paultag> so the card is working, you just don't have the subsystem
[18:58] <paultag> sec JackJelinek
[18:59] <paultag> JackJelinek: sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils gstreamer0.10-alsa
[18:59] <JackJelinek> okay done
[18:59] <JackJelinek> now do you want me to sudo aplay -l?
[19:00] <paultag> JackJelinek: please
[19:00] <JackJelinek> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[19:00] <paultag> restart alsa
[19:00] <paultag> /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[19:01] <JackJelinek> it says no such file or directory
[19:01] <paultag> JackJelinek: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[19:01] <JackJelinek> sudo: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio: command not found
[19:01] <paultag> whooooooooooh
[19:02] <paultag> JackJelinek: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
[19:02] <JackJelinek> okay done now sudo /ect/int.d/pulseaudio?
[19:03] <JackJelinek> restart
[19:03] <paultag> yeah
[19:03] <JackJelinek> * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions
[19:03] <paultag> JackJelinek: kk, sec
[19:03] <paultag> JackJelinek: run
[19:03] <paultag> pulseaudio --check
[19:04] <JackJelinek> how exactly? sorry for not knowing anything about this yet
[19:04] <paultag> JackJelinek: run that command in a terminal
[19:05] <paultag> JackJelinek: and no sorry here
[19:05] <JackJelinek> nothing happened
[19:05] <paultag> JackJelinek: this is a beginners channel for a reason
[19:05] <paultag> JackJelinek: OK, that's good
[19:05] <paultag> JackJelinek: you will need to restart. Please come back and let us know if it's worked or not
[19:05] <JackJelinek> okay
[19:05] <paultag> humm
[19:06] <paultag> he did not have alsa or pulse
[19:06] <paultag> interesting.
[19:08] <JackJelinek> doesnt look like anything has changed
[19:10] <JackJelinek> well, my sound icon in the top right is totally gone now
[19:10] <paultag> JackJelinek: od
[19:10] <paultag> odd
[19:10] <paultag> JackJelinek: open up "alsamixer"
[19:10] <paultag> JackJelinek: is there a "master" channel?
[19:10] <JackJelinek> where is alsamixer?
[19:11] <paultag> JackJelinek: it's on the command line
[19:11] <JackJelinek> so input it in a terminal? i got this: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[19:11] <paultag> oh interesting
[19:11] <paultag> JackJelinek: you look like you are missing the whole subsystem
[19:12] <goodtime> apps/sound and video
[19:12] <paultag> JackJelinek: your sound card is working fine, but the audio system is borked. Did you do anything toy our install?
[19:13] <JackJelinek> not that i know of.
[19:13] <paultag> JackJelinek: did you install or remove anything that might be noteworthy
[19:14] <JackJelinek> nope. I gave up about a month ago and never booted into ubuntu since yesterday when i wanted to get this all running so i dont really remember if i did or not
[19:14] <JackJelinek> is there anyway i can fix it?
[19:15] <paultag> JackJelinek: it's very complex, there is a lot that makes up the sound system. The easiest way is to reinstall. This problem should _never_ happen, but for some reason you got lucky and got no sound daemons
[19:15] <JackJelinek> ive had to reinstall ubuntu so many times. sometimes when i installed it the GRUB or something was gone i guess
[19:16] <JackJelinek> other times my video card wouldnt work
[19:16] <paultag> JackJelinek: man you are not lucking out :(
[19:16] <JackJelinek> ubuntu does not like me...
[19:16] <paultag> JackJelinek: you can try #pulseaudio
[19:16] <paultag> JackJelinek: they should know better then me, just explain your whole soundsystem is missing and you don't have /dev/mixer
[19:17] <paultag> JackJelinek: be sure to tell them you are new and to go easy on the terminal stuff ;)
[19:18] <JackJelinek> thanks a lot for all your help
[19:18] <paultag> JackJelinek: sorry I could not help more
[19:19] <JackJelinek> lets hope these people here can :)
[19:20] <paultag> JackJelinek: aye aye!
[19:20] <kaushal> Hi
[19:26] <kaushal> the email body to a particular team. I do have multiple hosts with multiple plugins. is there a easy and efficient way to do it ?
[19:27] <kaushal> I am using collectd on ubuntu server 8.04. I have a special requirement is that i need to send png graphs which has to be embed on
[19:27] <kaushal> the email body to a particular team. I do have multiple hosts with multiple plugins. is there a easy and efficient way to do it ?
[21:11] <Theo> gello
[21:11] <Theo> hello
[21:11] <Theo> I am trying to get my vpn (ultravpn) working again, but i always get this error: The VPN connection "UltraVPN" failed because there were no valid VPN secrets. What does it mean?
[21:13] <Theo> Anyone here who could help me out with a VPN Connection problem?
[21:47] <frank1_> how difficult is it to find a copy of windows and than use that to install onto a separate partition?
[21:48] <pedro3005> it's easy. just buy it
[21:48] <frank1_> :)
[21:49] <frank1_> that goes against almost all my beleifs
[21:49] <frank1_> i really just need it to backup my blackberry
[21:50] <pedro3005> well we can't advocate piracy here
[21:52] <frank1_> ahh
[21:52] <frank1_> gottcha
[21:56] <Silver_Fox_> =]
[21:59] <zkriesse> what up punks
[22:07] <Ironreaper> Ok, I updated and now my window manager will not work upon startup, I go into system and preferences, Visual effects and set it to Normal and it works.
[22:07] <Ironreaper> Anyone have an Idea of why its doing this, did not happen till after I updated
[22:07] <zkriesse> Ironreaper: how did you install
[22:07] <Ironreaper> The updates?
[22:07] <zkriesse> Ironreaper: did you upgrade or do a full fresh install
[22:08] <zkriesse> No, Ubuntu
[22:08] <zkriesse> I assume that's what you're using
[22:08] <Ironreaper> Full fresh install, about 2 months ago.
[22:08] <zkriesse> Ok
[22:08] <zkriesse> What distro
[22:08] <zkriesse> I mean what version
[22:08] <Ironreaper> No problems till after recent updates
[22:08] <Ironreaper> 10.04 64 bit
[22:08] <zkriesse> Hm
[22:09] <Ironreaper> The updates have ruined everything
[22:09] <zkriesse> Might be because of the 64 bit
[22:09] <Ironreaper> I used to play games, using Wine emulator
[22:09] <zkriesse> Ok
[22:09] <zkriesse> And?
[22:09] <Ironreaper> and the recent Nvidia update that I installed yesterday has rendered my computer useless to games
[22:09] <Ironreaper> says I do not have a 3D accelerator
[22:10] <Ironreaper> I do believe I will reinstall completely and never update.
[22:10] <zkriesse> Well it's good to update as it fixes bug patches and such
[22:11] <zkriesse> have you tried searching for any length of time or are you just frustrated and don't care
[22:11] <zkriesse> because being frustrated about this will NOT solve anything
[22:11] <Ironreaper> I have been searching for 3 days now
[22:11] <Ironreaper> finally figured out it was my window manager
[22:12] <pedro3005> hey guys.. does anyone feel like a quick lesson in C#?
[22:12] <Ironreaper> sure
[22:12] <zkriesse> pedro3005: You giving the lesson
[22:12] <pedro3005> zkriesse, no
[22:13] <Ironreaper> oh
[22:13] <Ironreaper> xD
[22:13] <pedro3005> It's gonna happen in the channel ##learners
[22:13] <zkriesse> pedro3005: who is
[22:13] <pedro3005> to whoever may interest it
[22:14] <Ironreaper> sorry, more interested in figuring out my problems first.
[22:14] <Ironreaper> I'm do think I may buy Windows 7, I am an avid gamer and do miss playing Crysis
[22:16] <zkriesse> Ironreaper: ok well that has nothing to do with your issue
[22:16] <zkriesse> and windows seven sucks
[22:16] <zkriesse> case in point
[22:23] <zkriesse> he was a little bit of an ass
[22:30] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> does anyone know how to install regnum online for linux I downloaded the linux version but it will not install
[22:32] <Vantrax> what format is it in
[22:33] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> never mind I got it
[22:33] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> thanks
[22:35] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok now it says that my video card is unsupported
[22:38] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I do not know what drivers to download
[22:44] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> what is the command to look at my hardware
[22:48] <phillw> ZeRoDeAtH50435: try lspci
[22:49] <phillw> lspci | grep video
[22:51] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> did nothing
[22:51] <Flare183> ZeRoDeAtH50435: do it in the terminal
[22:51] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I did
[22:52] <Flare183> ZeRoDeAtH50435: try this: lspci | grep VGA
[22:52] <Flare183> phillw: I hope that helps
[22:52] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok that worked
[22:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> my system is up to date but I still get "video card unsupported"
[22:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> downloaded the linux version but it was a exe file
[22:57] <Flare183> ZeRoDeAtH50435: that's wubi
[22:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ?
[22:57]  * Flare183 doesn't think that's the real linux
[22:57] <Flare183> ZeRoDeAtH50435: that's really windows adapted linux
[22:58] <Flare183> >.<
[22:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> o
[22:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> great
[22:58] <Flare183> ZeRoDeAtH50435: The real linux, is only seen by you burning the ISO to a CD, and booting off the CD
[22:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> but it was not a ISO
[23:00] <Flare183> then you got the wrong thing
[23:00] <Flare183> ZeRoDeAtH50435: 32bit or 64bit?
[23:00] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=31&login=1
[23:00] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 64bit
[23:00]  * Flare183 tried regnum
[23:00] <Flare183> a while back
[23:01] <Flare183> I never could get it to work
[23:01] <Flare183> So I went with Eternal Lands
[23:04] <phillw> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3926
[23:05] <phillw> says it works well with wine?
[23:05] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah the MMOs I played on win will not work on linux
[23:07] <phillw> winehq.org has a list of various ones, along with how well they work.
[23:07] <phillw> regnum is rated platinum, which is the best rating.
[23:09] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I do not know what drivers I need to install to get it to work
[23:11]  * phillw is not a gamer, but it is often asked questions. There are two places you can look for things on wine, http://forum.winehq.org/  and the ubuntu area at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313  either should be able to help you.
[23:12] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> do you know anything about openGL
[23:17] <phillw> fraid not, the people at the gaming section may be of help http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[23:17] <phillw> the ubuntu forum is not just about fixing broken installations :-)
[23:24] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> is their a way to make a recovery disk on ubuntu
[23:26] <Flare183> !recovery | ZeRoDeAtH50435
[23:26] <ubot2> ZeRoDeAtH50435: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[23:27] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> that will not here me if I put win7 back on my laptop
[23:27] <phillw> it depends one what you define as a rescue disk, you can 'photo-copy' your installation to use in case you really break something. having a seperate /home area is always a good idea if you like tinkering with things, as that stores all your own data
[23:28] <phillw> ZeRoDeAtH50435: you can make an area under the ubuntu installation that win will 'see' and install on, if you're using a win rescue disk, then you need to take a partition backup of your system to ensure you have everything
[23:29] <paultag> Hey all, I have a question about file systems. I'm looking to layer two filesystems, read from the primary one, and if it's not there, read from the secondary from the same mount point
[23:29] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah
[23:29] <paultag> e.g. mount partition 1, with a pristine tree, and then mount partition 2 over partition one to catch all writes
[23:29] <phillw> as a win rescue disk, as opposed to a 'real' win disk will re-format your hard drive.
[23:30] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I plan on removing win when I find the exact graphics card that this laptop uses
[23:30] <paultag> then unmount partition one, and have all changes on partition 2
[23:31] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> then this will not work because all I have is a win7 recovery disk
[23:31] <phillw> ZeRoDeAtH50435: well, it depends on what you have to use a backup media as to how & what to backup
[23:31] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I will to back up my hole system the way it is right now
[23:32] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I have a few OS in vbox also
[23:32] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> want
[23:33] <phillw> ZeRoDeAtH50435: you could at using pybackpack http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pybackpack-a-user-friendly-file-backup-tool-for-ubuntu-linux-desktop.html or clonezilla http://clonezilla.org/  they are both fairly straight forward to use
[23:34] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok I'll check them out thanks
[23:36] <phillw> paultag: AFAIK you cannot mount two partitions on one mount point, but i think you can divert writes.
[23:38] <paultag> phillw, do you know how, perchance? Even a write redirect would be a godsend
[23:42] <phillw> paultag: 'fraid not.
[23:42] <paultag> kk ty phillw
[23:42] <paultag> /away bbl
[23:43] <aveilleux> awayfail, paultag :P
[23:55] <zkriesse> hello iceflatline
[23:57]  * zkriesse is a bot