[00:05]  * shadeslayer wonders if maco ran away
[00:05] <micahg> ajmitch: bdrung_, well, I know there are times when I can't be at my computer for 72 hrs straight
[00:05] <micahg> not often, but possible
[00:06] <maco> shadeslayer: no was just chatting
[00:06] <shadeslayer> maco: just kidding :P
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[00:06] <shadeslayer> im just testing out the package once again to see if it builds correctly
[00:07] <bdrung_> micahg, ajmitch: we need a better policy or tools for that.
[00:07] <micahg> bdrung_: actually, I would think 7 days isn't unreasonable, at the beginning of a cycle, 3 in the middle, 1 near the end
[00:09]  * ajmitch generally prefers less policy, not more
[00:12] <Laney> I don't think it needs to be formal
[00:12] <Laney> just try to make contact and wait a reasonable amount of time to hear back
[00:12] <ajmitch> common sense generally works
[00:12] <micahg> +1
[00:12] <shadeslayer> maco: yep builds perfectly
[00:13] <micahg> Laney: ajmitch: bdrung_: maybe a note to come in here and ask if the contributor thinks they've waited a reasonable amount of time
[00:15] <Laney> I'm not sure there's even a big problem to solve
[00:15] <Laney> although I did notice that someone merged one of my TIL packages the other day without checking with me
[00:16] <ajmitch> I don't think it was me :)
[00:16]  * micahg almost had one sync'd w/out being asked (luckily I filed the bug shortly before :) )
[00:16] <bdrung_> Laney, ajmitch, micahg: the word policy was too strong. having a recommendation or a usual way described would be nice.
[00:17] <Laney> I thought that is what we have
[00:17]  * bdrung_ had one package synced and wondered why his syncpackage script failed.
[00:17] <micahg> bdrung_: yeah, it's on there, but people apparently don't read it :(
[00:17] <ajmitch> micahg: of course not
[00:18] <bdrung_> i would like to have a more verbose version of it.
[00:18] <Laney> anyway it is actually only a recommendation, so you can't really complain so much
[00:18] <Laney> we don't have maintainers after all ;)
[00:19] <micahg> Laney: true, but the community is normally courteous
[00:20] <bdrung_> it would be nice to have a way to specify your preference. for some package i want to be asked and for other package i don't care about it.
[00:21] <Laney> No, you can't block others from working on a package
[00:21] <Laney> if you want someone else to take your merge then just leave a comment on mom
[00:23] <bdrung_> Laney: it was not meant to block other. i want to be ask for some package, because i work on them and want to avoid wasted time
[00:25] <shadeslayer> maco: put a hold on the upload,i think i might be able to close bug 221979 with this upload
[00:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 221979 in mingw32 (Ubuntu) "Inconsistent snprintf format specification parsing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221979
[00:25] <shadeslayer> the bug has a patch :P
[00:25] <maco> shadeslayer: okie
[00:26] <maco> shadeslayer: you an ubuntu member? if so, stash a source package's requisite files on your people.ubuntu.com and point me at it
[00:26] <maco> shadeslayer: when you have it all ready i mean
[00:26] <shadeslayer> maco: no :(
[00:27] <shadeslayer> maco: ive applied for membership tho
[00:27] <maco> which board?
[00:27] <shadeslayer> maco: kubuntu council :)
[00:27] <shadeslayer> maco: which is currently having its own reshuffling going on
[00:28] <maco> ah right
[00:28] <maco> i voted
[00:30] <shadeslayer> maco: i didnt get the mail
[00:30] <maco> shadeslayer: youre not a member yet
[00:30] <shadeslayer> maco: ohhh....
[00:30] <shadeslayer> right
[00:31] <maco> dependency resolution... FAIL
[00:31] <ajmitch> sigh, another udd import failure
[00:32] <shadeslayer> maco: my patch?
[00:32] <maco> shadeslayer: heh no
[00:32] <shadeslayer> ah ok :P
[00:33] <ajmitch> lifeless: is it worth filing bugs for these import failures, when a similar one is already there?
[00:33] <maco> shadeslayer: the kubuntu member -- vote on --> kubuntu council -- vote on --> kubuntu member {REPEAT} thing
[00:33] <shadeslayer> apparently that patch ( in the bug ) is pretty useless... theres no gdtoa dir
[00:33] <shadeslayer> maco: ah.. circular deps :P
[00:33] <maco> shadeslayer: yep
[00:34] <lifeless> ajmitch: we want one bug per page like http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/sphinx.html#2010-04-04%2014:35:37.804150
[00:34]  * shadeslayer wonders how it could be 5 AM so soon
[00:35] <ajmitch> lifeless: ok, there's already one filed for a 'No such tag' error, so I'll leave it
[00:35] <lifeless> ajmitch: me too it
[00:35] <shadeslayer> maco: the pastebin i sent you is good to go ... i cant see where to apply this patch,nor the code which has to be patched
[00:36] <ajmitch> done & commented
[00:37] <shadeslayer> maco: wait!
[00:38] <shadeslayer> i think i found the file :P
[00:38] <maco> heh ok
[00:38]  * maco waits
[00:40] <shadeslayer> maco: how would one patch stuff inside a tarball? 0_o
[00:40] <maco> shadeslayer: uhhhhh O_O
[00:40] <maco> there's a tarball *inside* the .orig.tar.gz ??
[00:40] <maco> doubly tar'd?
[00:40] <ajmitch> you sound surprised at this
[00:40] <shadeslayer> maco: no theres a tarball inside the untarred stuff
[00:40] <maco> ajmitch: isnt that like....not allowed?
[00:40] <shadeslayer> ajmitch: i was
[00:41] <wgrant> It's stupid.
[00:41] <wgrant> But not forbidden.
[00:41] <ajmitch> maco: no, just annoying
[00:41] <maco> wgrant: can we make it forbidden due to crossing the stupid threshold?
[00:41] <micahg> was more of an issue before source format 3 and you could only upload .tar.gz
[00:41] <ajmitch> cdbs even has explicit support for it
[00:42] <micahg> s/3/3.0
[00:42] <maco> see and this is why i cant be a core dev. these weird edge cases blow my mind too thoroughly
[00:42] <shadeslayer> anyway to find a file and its path in a folder?
[00:43] <ajmitch> wait until you try & read the cdbs code for fun
[00:43] <micahg> maco: I just too a look inside the chromium tarball last night and there's a .tar.lzma archive in there and it's still 90MB
[00:43] <micahg> *took
[00:43] <shadeslayer> using commands
[00:44] <ajmitch> shadeslayer: find /path -name *foobar*
[00:44] <maco> shadeslayer: find
[00:46] <shadeslayer> maco: bah release the beastie... i cant find any stuff to patch
[00:46] <shadeslayer> ill mark the bug as incomplete
[00:47] <maco> haha
[00:48] <shadeslayer> maco: well its always better to be sure :)
[00:49] <maco> shadeslayer: did you used to be trollslayer/
[00:49] <maco> *?
[00:49] <shadeslayer> nope
[00:49] <maco> oh ok
[00:49] <shadeslayer> been shadeslayer since i accidently wandered into #kubuntu :P
[00:50] <shadeslayer> maco: im going to sleep.. my other account ( shadeslayer_ ) will still be active so please highlight that one and ill read the backlog :)
[00:50] <maco> ok
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[04:38] <p3rror> hello
[04:38] <p3rror> please where can i found jar binary
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[05:59] <anoteng> any motu's willing to take a look at my package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/transgui bug #332067 I changed the package according to fabricesp's comments.
[05:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 332067 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] transmission-remote-gui" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332067
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[06:35] <fabrice_sp> anoteng, it still FTBFS. Did you built it with pbuilder/sbuild?
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[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
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[09:07] <bilalakhtar> Please merge. bug #595398
[09:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595398 in acm (Ubuntu) "Please merge acm 5.0-27 (universe) from Debian testing" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595398
[09:16] <bilalakhtar> Build for the merge succeeded. Someone, please upload merge for bug #595398
[09:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595398 in acm (Ubuntu) "Please merge acm 5.0-27 (universe) from Debian testing" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595398
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[09:29] <bilalakhtar> nobawk: Hi there! bug #595398
[09:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595398 in acm (Ubuntu) "Please merge acm 5.0-27 (universe) from Debian testing" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595398
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[09:45] <bilalakhtar> anyone?
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[11:13] <xteejx> Help! I keep getting dependency errors with pbuilder, e.g. Depends: libnet6-1.3-dev (>= 1:1.3.12) which is a virtual package. Why should that make a difference? Surely it'd normally just install the damn thing regardless
[11:14] <xteejx> Do I need to change the control file to something like build-depends: libnet6-1.3-0 | libnet6-1.3-dev ??
[11:15] <xteejx> obviously there are other deps ;)
[11:17] <xteejx> BlackZ: ?? ^
[11:19] <xteejx> anyone?
[11:20] <geser> xteejx: do you have universe enabled in your pbuilder?
[11:20] <xteejx> geser: I'll be honest I don't know
[11:20] <geser> and no, you don't need to change the build-dependency
[11:20] <geser> this error message is a common one if universe isn't enabled
[11:20] <xteejx> is this the ~/.pbuilderrc thing?
[11:20] <geser> yes
[11:20] <xteejx> ahhhhh
[11:21] <geser> the COMPONENTS one in the wiki page
[11:21] <xteejx> geser: Got it! thanks geser...again!! hehe :)
[11:23] <xteejx> geser: Quick Q - the autobuilders won't have a prob will they when this merges?
[11:24] <soren> xteejx: Why do you say libnet6-1.3-dev is a virtual package?
[11:24] <soren> I certainly see a libnet6-1.3-dev in the archive.
[11:25] <xteejx> pbuilder said that, dont see why
[11:25] <soren> Ah.
[11:25] <geser> xteejx: no, the use the correct components when build for main (main only) or universe (main+universe) or multiverse (main+universe+multiverse)
[11:26] <xteejx> I copied the components section from the wiki page, updating now
[11:27] <xteejx> All working now, no more bitching about supposed virtual packages :D
[11:27] <xteejx> thanks guys
[11:29] <bilalakhtar> Hey motus, bug #595398
[11:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595398 in acm (Ubuntu) "Please merge acm 5.0-27 (universe) from Debian testing" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595398
[11:29] <xteejx> it's in progress
[11:30] <xteejx> set it confirmed if you're done with it and subscirbe universe sponsors
[11:31] <bilalakhtar> xteejx: I have done it, why confirmed? ok, I have subscribed both sponsors and universe-sponsors
[11:32] <xteejx> well in progress means it's in progress, but if you've generated your debdiffs, etc then its no longer in progress... lol
[11:33] <xteejx> motu say set confirmed since not everyone is able to set Triaged
[11:34] <bilalakhtar> xteejx: I cat set it to Triaged.
[11:34] <xteejx> hence "confirmed"
[11:34] <bilalakhtar> xteejx: I don't know what to do in case of merge bugs
[11:35]  * bilalakhtar reconsults the Triage Guide
[11:35] <xteejx> you created 2 debdiffs between versions so you must have some idea what you're doing
[11:35] <xteejx> and you can set Triaged status, you're bug control same as me
[11:36] <bilalakhtar> xteejx: I know. This is the first merge I am working on
[11:36] <xteejx> ohhh right I see
[11:37] <xteejx> I tried acm but gave up, build problems
[11:37] <xteejx> I'm learning to do merges myself so I'm probably not a great deal of help
[11:37] <bilalakhtar> "Do not assign a bug to anyone if it needs sponsorship. "
[11:37] <xteejx> no no never assign bugs, that's a general rule, even with bugsquad/control
[11:38] <bilalakhtar> xteejx: Build failed once, then tried, there was a type. worked later.
[11:38] <bilalakhtar> *typo
[11:38] <xteejx> cool
[11:40] <bilalakhtar> "The Status should be "Confirmed" for bugs that represent a new candidate revision (e.g. bugfix uploads, merges.) In other words, use Status "Confirmed" when you have uploaded a debdiff that requires attention from a sponsor. "
[11:40] <xteejx> yup
[11:41] <xteejx> It probably should be Triaged by our guidelines but I don't think motu have that ability, esp newer motus, so confirmed makes sense
[11:42] <bilalakhtar> xteejx: I didn't read it anywhere, that we should mark such bugs as triaged. I can do it right away, as I am member of bugcontrol as well.
[11:43] <xteejx> well if the motu page says confirmed, set it to that
[11:43] <xteejx> *Generally* for triage it would be Triaged if you have all the information, but not in this case
[11:43] <xteejx> that's what i meant
[11:44] <bilalakhtar> ok, now, bug #595398 , any motu here?
[11:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595398 in acm (Ubuntu) "Please merge acm 5.0-27 (universe) from Debian testing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595398
[11:44] <bilalakhtar> wishlist and confirmed ^^
[11:45] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: subscribe ubuntu-sponsor and wait
[11:45] <BlackZ> it's enough
[11:45] <BlackZ> ubuntu-sponsors*
[11:45] <xteejx> just wait DIF is a week away it'll be looked at long before then, you subscirbed u-u-s thats it for now
[11:45] <bilalakhtar> thanks, BlackZ and xteejx
[11:45] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: and in the future don't subscribe U-U-S too
[11:45] <BlackZ> U-S is enough
[11:46] <bilalakhtar> BlackZ: ok
[11:46] <xteejx> u-u-s is universe sponsors isn't it?
[11:46] <bilalakhtar> DIF is coming ?
[11:46] <BlackZ> since now we have the sponsor either for main and universe in U-S
[11:46] <bilalakhtar> so soon ?
[11:46] <xteejx> yup DIF one week today
[11:46] <BlackZ> time for lunch, bye
[11:47] <bilalakhtar> bye, BlackZ
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[12:07] <EricBa> Hello, is there a motu who has some time to review my package? It's already reviewed by one motu. My programm is a wallpaper changer for gnome. - http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cortina
[13:03] <ari-tczew> please open a tasks on bug 464175
[13:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 464175 in skyeye (Ubuntu) "Broken shared library dependency for skyeye in Karmic Koala" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/464175
[13:21] <ari-tczew> and assign to me directly ^^
[13:27] <ari-tczew> sponsors, please take a look on clementine player http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/clementine I'm using this package and it rulez! glad to see in universe
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[15:46] <ripps> In Maverick, why does amd64 have libvdpau-4.3 and i386 have libvdpau-4.5? The version differences are messing up my mplayer-build package.
[15:48] <umang> ripps, I'm guessing this is it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/libvdpau/+builds
[15:50] <umang> ripps, or more specifically http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50307120/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.libvdpau_0.4-5_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[15:51] <ripps> yeah, i see. It's waiting on ia32-libs
[16:02] <BlackZ> kees: please, unsubscribe U-S-S in bug #595520 subscribed for wrong
[16:02] <BlackZ> thanks!
[16:02] <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/595520)
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[17:46] <NorthernLights> Hello all
[17:47] <NorthernLights> I'm packing this software whose only copyright line i could find in the source tarball is dated 2002-2007 although last commit was this month
[17:47] <NorthernLights> should I just leave the debian/copyright with that date?
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[18:17] <ScottK> Yes
[18:17] <ScottK> (where that date == 2002-2007
[18:20] <kees> BlackZ: unsubbed, thanks.
[18:23] <ari-tczew> please open a tasks on bug 464175 and assign to me
[18:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 464175 in dspam (Ubuntu) "Please merge dspam 3.6.8-9.3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/464175
[18:23] <ari-tczew> err, wrong, bug 464175
[18:23] <ari-tczew> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skyeye/+bug/464175
[18:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 464175 in skyeye (Ubuntu) "Broken shared library dependency for skyeye in Karmic Koala" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:41] <shadeslayer> any sponsors around?
[18:47] <lfaraone> shadeslayer: link?
[18:47] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: um no bug link :)
[18:48] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: just dget http://packages.debian.org/sid/mingw32 and apply this patch http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EkMmtdMt
[18:48] <shadeslayer> ( to the packaging folder )
[18:49] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: or do you want me to file a bug ?
[18:49] <lfaraone> shadeslayer: yes, please do.
[18:49] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: ok and you would require a dediff right?
[18:50] <lfaraone> shadeslayer: yes, or bzr branch.
[18:51] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: ah ok...
[18:51] <NorthernLights> I'm packing this software whose only copyright line i could find in the source tarball is dated 2002-2007 although last commit was this month. Should I just put these dates in the debian/copyright file?
[18:52] <lfaraone> NorthernLights: Those lines are just a suggestion.
[18:53] <lfaraone> NorthernLights: either way should be fine, but I'd lean towards "2002-2010"
[18:53] <NorthernLights> hM, K
[18:53] <NorthernLights> Hm, ok
[18:53] <NorthernLights> i gess so too, thanks
[18:54]  * bilalakhtar never thought merging could be so easy, thanks to MoM
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[18:55] <bilalakhtar> A small question: After I run the grab-merge, I get the mom@ubuntu.com address in changelog. Do I need to change that to mine, using dch ?
[18:56] <bilalakhtar> yes, right ? ^^
[18:56] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: of course you need to change it
[18:57] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: yup, have been doing that. was just making sure if I was going on the right track
[18:57] <bilalakhtar> How long does it take for a merge to be approved ?
[18:57] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: as long as any sponsor will poke your patch
[18:58] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: I have subscribed ubuntu-sponsors. DO I need to send request on some mailing list as well? or its enough?
[18:58] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: it's enough
[18:59] <bilalakhtar> thanks ari-tczew
[18:59]  * bilalakhtar continues merging :)
[18:59] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: you're welcome
[19:00] <bilalakhtar> well, now I have bug #595609
[19:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595609 in filtergen (Ubuntu) "Please merge filtergen 0.12.4-5 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595609
[19:00] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: possibly you can ask here for sponsorship, but be patient
[19:01] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: I was showing the bug to you.
[19:01] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: I can take a look, but now I'm eating
[19:03] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: ok, sorry
[19:03] <ari-tczew> wait 5 minutes
[19:18] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: your second attached patch is wrong
[19:19] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: please remove file debian/changelog.dch
[19:20] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: oh
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[19:21] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: I don't see a verbosity changes in debian/changelog
[19:21] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: It is removed in the diff
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[19:22] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: it is correct
[19:22] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: no, you wrote only: Merge from debian testing.
[19:22] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: oh, you mean that? ok
[19:22] <ari-tczew> the correct description is: Merge from debian testing, remaining changes:
[19:22] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: I got it.
[19:23] <ari-tczew> and unstable instead testing
[19:23] <ari-tczew> we are getting packages from testing during LTS development cycle only
[19:25] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: please prepare a patch and put it into debian/patches/ instead changing source code manually
[19:26] <ari-tczew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems
[19:27] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: That's what I thought of, But the debian maint has not done that. I thought it would be useless.
[19:28] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: please use CDBS with Simple Patchsys
[19:28] <ari-tczew> then you have to add information in debian/changelog, like: * Support simple-patchsys
[19:28] <ScottK> ari-tczew: The general rule is to not add a patch system is Debian hasn't got one.
[19:29] <bilalakhtar> ScottK: but the ubuntu version uses quilt
[19:29] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I saw that developers from MOTU means something other
[19:29] <ScottK> bilalakhtar: If it's got patch system in Ubuntu already, don't remove it.
[19:29] <bilalakhtar> ScottK: I am not
[19:30] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Why did you tell him to use CDBS simply patchsys?
[19:30] <ari-tczew> ScottK: because it's easy to implement
[19:30] <ScottK> But if the package already has quilt, then why?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: bug 595633
[19:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595633 in mingw32 (Ubuntu) "Please merge mingw32" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595633
[19:31] <bilalakhtar> ScottK: Don't worry, I have used simple patchsys other packages as well.
[19:31] <bilalakhtar> I have been packaging, merging, fixing bugs, etc from the last 2 months
[19:32] <ScottK> bilalakhtar: If there's already a patch system, there's no reason to change.
[19:32] <ScottK> Also, generally, quilt is better thought of than simple patchsys.
[19:32] <ari-tczew> ScottK: $ what-patch: patchless?
[19:32] <geser> is this about the filtergen merge?
[19:32] <ari-tczew> geser: yes
[19:33] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I'm going based on bilalakhtar saying it already had quilt.
[19:33] <geser> filtergen doesn't depend on any patch-system
[19:33] <geser> it patches the code directly
[19:34] <geser> ari-tczew: and please don't instruct other to change the packaging system
[19:35] <ari-tczew> geser: ok
[19:38] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: thanks for the other advises anyway
[19:38] <ari-tczew> geser, ScottK: I just wanted to help him, but it's turned against me as always
[19:39] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I'm glad you're trying to help.  It's even OK if the help turns out to be wrong sometimes as long as you are open to feedback.
[19:40] <bilalakhtar> ari-tczew: This is a problem for me as well. Many of my help attempts turn out to be against me. If you frequently visit #ubuntu-server, then you will know.
[19:41] <ari-tczew> bilalakhtar: I don't visit #ubuntu-server. For server sector my contribution is security patches btw.
[19:42] <bilalakhtar> bye, guys
[21:05] <smallfoot-> guys put Gloobus in the repository
[21:05] <smallfoot-> okay?
[21:07] <smallfoot-> and put nautilis-elementary simplified, and Elementary theme there
[21:07] <smallfoot-> or im gonna fuck you up
[21:07] <ScottK> !ops
[21:07] <ubottu> Help! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpds!
[21:07] <ikonia> huh ?
[21:08] <ikonia> smallfoot-: tone down the language and attitude please.
[21:08] <ikonia> smallfoot-: have you made a request for this to be pacaged ?
[21:08] <fbond> Hm, I shouldn't be an op...
[21:08] <smallfoot-> yeah
[21:08] <smallfoot-> there are requests
[21:08] <smallfoot-> but nobody does shit about it
[21:09] <tsimpson> ah ChanServ, how I love thou
[21:09] <ikonia> very sad
[21:09] <hyperair> tsimpson: thee.
[21:09] <ikonia> if you can't communicate without swearing, I pity
[21:09] <ikonia> I strongly suggest Gloobus doesn't get packaged now as punishment for such a rude request
[21:09] <tsimpson> hyperair: looks too much like a typo, so I choose thou
[21:09] <ikonia> request, nah, demand
[21:10] <hyperair> tsimpson: poor excuse for grammatical errors ;-)
[21:11] <ScottK> smallfoot-: We're all volunteers here, so you've got no right to insist anything.  If arrived with a pleasanter tone and a willingness to be part of the solution, someone would have almost certainly helped you figure out how to get what you want.
[21:11]  * hyperair points out that "pleasanter" doesn't exist.
[21:11]  * hyperair dons his grammar police hat
[21:14] <micahg> ikonia: no point in punishing the community if the package actually has value
[21:14] <ikonia> put authentication on the repos's so he can't have it ?
[21:15] <micahg> ikonia: :)
[21:15] <ikonia> see compromise is possible
[21:15] <micahg> ikonia: add a fw rule to the archive :)
[21:15]  * micahg realizes neither solution would be possible or even prevent acquisition of the package
[21:18] <hyperair> there's a PPA for gloobus. someone should poke the owner of that PPA to submit it through revu
[21:28] <sebner> hyperair: w00t, and ScottK is even native speaker. pleasanter definately looks like germanism :)
[21:29] <ScottK> hyperair: more pleasant would be more correct, you are right.
[21:29] <hyperair> sebner: Parse error at "native." Expected pronoun but found adjective.
[21:30] <hyperair> ScottK: ^_^
[21:30] <sebner> hyperair: w00t :P
[21:30] <hyperair> er whoops, not pronoun. what was a/an called again?
[21:30]  * hyperair segfaults
[21:30]  * sebner prepares his rotten tomatoes once again
[21:31]  * hyperair vanishes with a *poof*
[21:31] <sebner> heh
[21:31] <hyperair> only cherry tomatoes allowed!
[21:31] <hyperair> *FRESH* cherry tomatoes.
[21:31] <sebner> hyperair: biiiig, roooooootten tomatoes
[21:31] <sebner> only the best for you :P
[21:31]  * hyperair scuttles away in fright.
[21:32] <sebner> ScottK: was that just a random mistake or is it common to use *not-so-correct* grammatics in the U, S and A?
[21:33] <ScottK> sebner: Language use is generally pretty casual in the US.
[21:33] <sebner> ScottK: I thought/heard so
[21:33] <sebner> :)
[21:33] <ScottK> I'm actually more careful than most.
[21:34] <sebner> heh
[21:34] <sebner> ScottK: sure, you are working with british english users (here) :P
[21:35] <ScottK> Yes, but I've spent enough time around British English speakers that I can usually translate.
[21:36] <hyperair> malaysia and singapore both use british english \o/
[21:37] <sebner> I guess in whole europe you learn british english in schools, /here in Austria it's Oxford english to be precise
[22:15] <imbrandon> afternoon all
[22:18] <imbrandon> ScottK: rember me saying I got a position at a new ubuntu-ish company a few weeks ago ?
[22:18] <ScottK> imbrandon: I do.
[22:18] <imbrandon> ScottK: somehow we made slashdot today ( we as in the company ) http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/06/17/1929230/Bluecherry-Releases-GPLed-MPEG-4-Driver
[22:19] <imbrandon> woot
[22:19] <ScottK> Cool
[22:19] <ScottK> I've been reading about that on planet.debian.
[22:20] <imbrandon> cool, yea BenC made a few posts about it, because 99% of it ( driver and server ) are opensource
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[22:24] <micahg> imbrandon: friendly reminder :)
[22:24] <EricBa> Hello, is there a motu who has some time to review my package? It's already reviewed by one motu. My programm is a wallpaper changer for gnome. - http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cortina
[22:27] <imbrandon> micahg: ahh yes, i forgot, i will do it now
[22:27] <micahg> imbrandon: thanks :)
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[23:28] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: do you plan taking a sponsorship if you will come in MOTU?
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