[00:53] <Pici> maco: shadeslayer does have quite a number of entries in the bantracker, but all from last year.
[00:54] <Pici> But I still don't like seeing people making accusations behind peoples backs in our channels.
[00:54] <maco> i see
[01:29] <elky> Pici, he's starting back up
[02:52] <Jordan_U> d5005907 in #ubuntu
[03:07] <IdleOne> in -ot Anti-Gov is schooley
[03:07] <IdleOne> mentioned by bazhang yesterday
[07:48] <alabd> Good day all , my user is banned from #ubuntu by ikonia cause of flood , why humble can not send to #ubuntu-offtopic ???
[08:23] <bazhang> alabd, you are banned in both #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <alabd> bazhang:  hello  yes but humble flood was in ubuntu not ubunutu-offtopic
[08:27] <bazhang> alabd, correct; you were banned in #ubuntu-offtopic for another reason altogether
[08:31] <bazhang> oops seems you are just quieted there; topyli are you around?
[08:34] <alabd> bazhang:  which reason ?
[08:34] <alabd> it was not banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[08:35] <bazhang> alabd, you were quieted there, not banned; trying to see if topyli is around to discuss with you
[08:35] <alabd> thanks
[09:18] <bazhang> alabd, he seems not to be around right now; if you could stop by sometime later then he may be around at that time
[09:18] <bazhang> alabd, I will mention your issue of being quieted in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:19] <alabd> bazhang:  k thanks will beack later God give you peace bye 4 now
[10:09] <bazhang> mobyli, alabd was here earlier asking about being unmuted in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <mobyli> ah. could someone please do it, I'm not on a very comfortable client
[10:12] <mobyli> unless he gave some reason why we shouldn't
[10:17] <ikonia> he' still a problem in every channel he's in ?
[10:17] <ikonia> is that a good enough reason
[10:17] <ikonia> hence why he's currently banned in #ubuntu
[10:18] <bazhang> just informing you, I don't have access in there at any rate
[10:20] <mobyli> ok, I'll think about it later, look at backlog etc
[10:21] <mobyli> technically he was never in violation of the guidelines
[10:22] <mobyli> except the don't be annoying part: )
[10:22] <mobyli> in -ot that is
[10:24] <mobyli> thanks for telling
[10:38] <ikonia> mobyli: he was out of line asking the same questions over and over again
[10:41] <mobyli> true
[10:42] <ikonia> same way he's now in #fsf asking the same questions
[11:43] <bazhang> mobyli, you around?
[11:45] <bazhang> alabd, just a moment, mobyli (topyli) was just here
[11:46] <alabd> bazhang: thanks a lot
[11:46] <mobyli> more or less, quite busy
[11:46] <elky> alabd, can you explain in your own words what happened in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:47] <mobyli> alabd, hello
[11:47] <alabd> hello mobyli
[11:48] <alabd> elky: wait
[11:49] <alabd> elky:  may humble link log ?
[11:49] <mobyli> alabd: I'm afraid i can't remove your mute on #ubuntu-offtopic right now
[11:50] <elky> alabd, no, i want you to explain to me what happened.
[11:51] <mobyli> I trust the operators here, they will make a call
[11:51] <funkyHat> @login
[11:52] <mobyli> alabd: let elky help if she wants to tske thid on please
[11:53] <alabd> humble rephrased a sentence and asked users to check if it is ok or not
[11:54] <alabd> some users asked me to copy the main sentence humble told them can not do this cause of license
[11:55] <elky> Who is humble?
[11:55] <alabd> humble(i)
[11:56] <alabd> some other said don't rephrase it will be good some other told me to learn english and ....
[11:57] <alabd> check log before 11:45 GMT 2010 - 06 -11 for more information
[11:58] <alabd> or ask topyli for reason
[12:00] <alabd> humble don't know really what was illegal there
[12:02] <elky> i am checking my logs, it takes time
[12:03] <mobyli> alabd: i was forced to mute you as you were asking the same questions over snd over for months an refused to listen
[12:05] <mobyli> your contribution consists of nothing else and makes the whole channel unhappy
[12:07] <elky> the logs read like a kid asking homework questions to get answers without actually knowing
[12:08] <alabd> my question was "is that rephrased sentence true" some users were answering something else about copying or licensing or citing .....
[12:09] <elky> why are you asking those questions to begin with?
[12:09] <alabd> why not ?
[12:09] <alabd> and elky how did you find it is homework ? would you give me proof ?
[12:10] <elky> alabd, my experience is what makes me believe it's homework questions. No I'm not going to send you a piece of my brain, I can't spare any.
[12:11] <alabd> but you should know it was not homework and it is part of my book am reading about ubuntu and wanted to know tohers opinion , if you in say my experience is my proof in court , will they accept ?
[12:12] <alabd> really humble am very complaint with some op's judge here
[12:12] <IdleOne> alabd: this is not a court room.
[12:13] <elky> alabd, we get complaints every single time you start repeatedly asking questions over and over. Why should we let you continue annoying everyone. You'll end up making everyone leave.
[12:15] <alabd> you should bad answering and give not relating answers are also annoying
[12:15] <alabd> but humble try to explain them then you say why you have repeated
[12:16] <alabd> should know*
[12:16] <alabd> giving*
[12:16] <IdleOne> alabd: The problem is not from only one incident, it has been months that you continue to act the same way and it is very disruptive to the channel
[12:17] <elky> alabd, you seem to be treating us as an answering service. We're *not* a free human encyclopedia.
[12:47] <alabd> if you want say something and reply me sequentially it's better humble go away , maybe better to talk with canonical members , and elky sure you are not answring machine but someone in channel can be quiet while he/she does not know the answer . it is annoying when you have a question others answers something else and it's more annoying when you repeat main question they are answering the same thing yet , and it is more more annoying when you are banne
[12:48] <elky> I'm not actually sure what he just said.
[12:50] <elky> I *think* it might be "Maybe you're not my answering service, but you should just shut up and let me treat you as one anyway."
[12:50] <IdleOne> something that amounts to " it's your fault I repeat myself and not follow the rules"
[12:51] <funkyHat> elky: yes I think you got it
[12:54] <tsimpson> he was saying "it's annoying when you ask a question, no one replies because they don't know the answer, and someone else is getting the answer to their question"
[12:54] <tsimpson> quite childish, imo
[12:54] <IdleOne> indeed
[12:59] <IdleOne> looks like it is going to be a full moon tonight
[12:59] <IdleOne> later gators
[12:59] <funkyHat> IdleOne is a werewolf?
[13:00] <IdleOne> no but I can smell the trolls getting ready
[13:00] <IdleOne> gotta run. have a good day
[13:01] <funkyHat> A good day to you too sir!
[14:29] <Pici> hmm
[14:48] <gnomefreak> :09:46:38:. ==> #ubuntu-ircbots-team #ubuntu-bots-team Forwarding to another channel   << i thought we had those still, what channel are they fowarding to?
[14:49] <gnomefreak> oh the -ircbots-team is fowarded to * bots-team
[14:49] <h00k> morning.
[14:50] <bazhang> hi
[14:50] <gnomefreak> morning
[14:50] <gnomefreak> hi
[14:50] <h00k> I like when I leave for the evening and don't see any ! ops calls in #u-o or #u
[14:50] <h00k> in the morning
[14:50] <bazhang> knock wood
[14:51] <h00k> I already did
[14:51] <tsimpson> that has never happened to me
[15:09] <funkyHat> h00k left for the evening at 11:59 and came back at half past 12 in the morning ⢁(
[15:10] <h00k> funkyHat: yeah :(
[15:16] <h00k> I had things to play with like a remote control plane
[15:16] <h00k> and Brittany wanted me to watch 'Revolution OS'
[15:23] <elky> I still haven't seen that.
[15:23] <maco> me neither
[15:24] <elky> So long as it doesn't feature eating stuff from between toes I probably will at some point.
[15:24]  * ikonia watches alabd ask questions about wikipedia in #fsf
[15:29] <elky> lawl
[15:32] <Pici> ooh
[15:33] <ikonia> Pici: ;)
[15:33] <bazhang> the gnaa guy is in -ot
[15:34] <ikonia> is he being a problem ?
[15:34] <Pici> yes.
[15:34] <Pici> Not yet.
[15:34] <ikonia> (nick)
[15:34] <Pici> elky is on the case
[15:34] <bazhang> sockpupmex
[15:34] <ikonia> crossing line now
[15:34]  * elky compares him to her list
[15:35] <bazhang> already banned in several channels for the same stuff
[15:35] <Pici> yeah, quieted in #freenode and #defocus recently.
[15:35] <bazhang> and ##politics
[15:58] <h00k> bazhang: the knock-on-wood didn't help.
[15:58] <bazhang> h00k, we cursed it!
[15:58] <Pici> So, we need to figure out whether lubuntu is supported or not.
[15:59] <bazhang> thought it was, no question
[15:59] <gnomefreak> looks like a busy day
[15:59] <Pici> bazhang: I thought so too, but now I'm confused.
[15:59] <ikonia> Pici: I don't see why we can't extend support cover it
[15:59] <bazhang> well lubuntu-desktop exists
[15:59] <ikonia> it's not that much of a deal in terms of base differences, just need to pickup some more experience with the desktop
[16:00] <elky> Does this mean you'll have to rename all the lubotus? Can you rename them to lobotus plzkthx for my amusement. Silly lobotomised things.
[16:01] <h00k> sounds Latin
[16:01] <ikonia> ughhhh
[16:01] <Pici> sounds like that guy with the head things from Star Wars
[16:12] <gnomefreak> lubuntu has deps on xfce. is it faster than xfce?
[16:12] <bazhang> most certainly
[16:13]  * gnomefreak thinks of trying it. thanks
[16:14] <h00k> gnomefreak: no. thank *you*
[16:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[16:15] <gnomefreak> installing it ina  few minutes when i go to lunch
[16:16] <gnomefreak> make that 2 minutes
[16:35] <oCean_> hello
[16:36] <oCean_> please notice <GaneDolares> in #ubuntu spamming
[16:36] <bazhang> hi
[16:36] <bazhang> thanks oCean_
[16:36] <oCean_> ok, bye
[16:55] <RickRaven> why i am parted from ubuntu chat?
[16:56] <ikonia> RickRaven: you where removed for using a command that could potentially cause people issues
[16:57] <RickRaven> it wasnt me : gdw2: RickRaven:It could protect you from screwing your system over, ie rm -rf /
[16:57] <RickRaven> so then i asked if it is really possible to use that command?
[16:57] <ikonia> RickRaven: yes, that was also delt with
[16:57] <ikonia> RickRaven: he wasn't telling you to use that command, he was explaining the danger
[16:58] <ikonia> RickRaven: well, it appears you may have been removed in confusion #
[16:58] <RickRaven> and i wasnt also telling to use the command
[16:58] <ikonia> I can see that (looking at the logs now)
[16:58] <RickRaven> it is not a confusion it is a paranoia
[16:59] <ikonia> it's not quite, it looks like someone was under the impression you where trying to offer that command, and at a glance it does look like that
[16:59] <ikonia> looking back at the logs, I can see it was just a discussion that touched on the subject
[16:59] <ikonia> if you'd be happy to accept our apologies, you're of course welcome to rejoin #ubuntu
[16:59] <RickRaven> ok thank you
[17:01] <ikonia> hello again
[17:02] <RickRaven> btw what does really happen if i use rm -rf / just curious
[17:02] <ikonia> RickRaven: the long story is it used to remove your root file system, and in certain situations still can, the sort answer is, thanks to coreutils protection, almost always nothing
[17:03] <RickRaven> hmm ok thanks again
[17:03] <RickRaven> see you
[22:06] <Seveas> --> FotherMucker (50c2ed21@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.194.237.33) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
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[22:06] <Seveas> probably something to watch out for
[22:06] <ikonia> not again
[22:06] <ikonia> I'll sort him
[22:06] <ikonia> he's been asked to change his nick
[22:11] <FotherMucker> I've been asked to come here by ikonia?
[22:11] <ikonia> that ship has sailed
[22:11] <FotherMucker> Oh wow
[22:11] <ikonia> you have only come here after being banned and laughing about it in ##club-ubuntu - so take your troll activities elsewhere
[22:12] <FotherMucker> I didn't know you had op powahs :o
[22:12] <ikonia> please leave the channel
[22:12] <FotherMucker> Lol k
[22:12] <FotherMucker> I was gonna congratulate you
[22:12] <FotherMucker> ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
[22:13] <h00k> I wish I was that cool
[22:14] <ikonia> ?
[22:14] <h00k> sarcasm
[22:14] <ikonia> ah
[22:15] <h00k> If you'd like, I can carry that over to #ubuntu if it's not already set
[22:15] <h00k> ikonia: ^
[22:16] <ikonia> can't pre-emptive ban like that, however, I think he's already banned for other reason from #ubuntu
[22:16] <h00k> oh, we can't, alright
[23:31] <IdleOne> in cases like the one above. I think we should reconsider the rule about preemptive bans.
[23:31] <ikonia> I don't see why, it was only a minor issue
[23:31] <IdleOne> not in every case but in the more then "normal" troll cases
[23:32] <ikonia> I don't see him as a big deal,
[23:32] <ikonia> he's not exactly got a history in ban tracker
[23:32] <IdleOne> I didn't read all the scroll back but a week or so ago I had a run in with him also
[23:32] <ikonia> I think someone has to be a serious issue before that sort of thing is considered
[23:32] <IdleOne> don't believe I had to ban/remove
[23:34] <IdleOne> anyway, wasn't here,didn't read, spoke to soon perhaps
[23:34] <IdleOne> :)
[23:34] <IdleOne> I been doing that all day :/