[04:45] <MTecknology> mhall119: um- I was just looking at how you merged source into the branch - I might have a tip for you when you're online
[12:56] <mhall119> MTecknology: I'm always open to tips
[13:57] <cjohnston> mhall119: you are disturbing me
[14:08] <mhall119> cjohnston: I do what I can ;)
[15:05] <MTecknology> cjohnston: you are not distrurbing me
[15:07] <MTecknology> mhall119: so.. my suggestion is to do an actual merge rather that a pull/push - that's going to kill youi down the road
[15:10] <MTecknology> mhall119: I'm guessing what you did was bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-drupal-devs/ubuntu-website/xyz; cd xyz; bzr push lp:light-drupal-theme
[15:10] <MTecknology> What I would have done (for a new branch)
[15:11] <MTecknology> mkdir light-drupal-theme; cd light-drupal-theme; bzr init; bzr merge lp:~ubuntu-drupal-devs/ubuntu-website/xyz; bzr commit -m "blah"; bzr push light-drupal-theme
[15:12] <MTecknology> mhall119: then it's a single revision with all the changes you're signing off on
[15:13] <MTecknology> mhall119: for updating - bzr brach lp:light-drupal-theme; cd light-drupal-theme; bzr merge lp:~ubuntu-drupal-devs/ubuntu-website/xyz; bzr commit -m "foo"; bzr push lp:light-drupal-theme
[15:19] <mhall119> MTecknology: the light-drupal-theme was already there, I did a branch of that, then pulled from yours,then pushed back
[15:19] <mhall119> I guess I should have merged instead of pulling
[15:19] <mhall119> I'm still learning the "proper" way of doing things in bzr
[15:20] <mhall119> going between that and hg at work, sometimes I get confused
[15:25] <MTecknology> mhall119: i bet - I could walk you through it if you want
[15:25] <mhall119> no need, I understand what you're saying
[15:25] <mhall119> and thanks
[15:25] <MTecknology> mhall119: hope i helped some
[15:26] <mhall119> absolutely did
[15:34] <MTecknology> mhall119: doing that will let you 1) sign off 2) ignore first branch in future 3) keep revisions (changes) low (100 revisions in a testing branch turns into one
[15:39] <MTecknology> mhall119: it might not be a horrible to remake everything to revision 1 for those branches either - just a thought
[15:40] <mhall119> yeah, I'd have to delete the branch and start over
[15:42] <mhall119> newz2000: is it okay if I delete the lp:ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme branch and redo it the way MTecknology recommends?
[15:42] <MTecknology> mhall119: you don't need to delete
[15:42] <mhall119> I don't?
[15:44] <MTecknology> nope
[15:45] <mhall119> okay, now you've got my full attention, how do I get rid of the pull history on a branch already in launchpad?
[15:46] <MTecknology> there's two options
[15:46] <MTecknology> the long way; and the fast way
[15:46]  * mhall119 is listening
[15:48] <MTecknology> the long way is better for established branches that are regularly used - the fast way is great to just quickly change it
[15:48] <mhall119> would you mind explaining both, so I know the difference and which to use in future cases too?
[15:49] <MTecknology> bzr uncommit will let you roll back changes - if somebody branched that version, then get the sync on bzr pull, either way their own changes get broken
[15:50] <MTecknology> you usually use that if you're rolling back only one or two changes
[15:50] <MTecknology> the other way; you start fresh - but with no previous deletes
[15:50] <mhall119> if I uncommit on my local branch, then push to LP, will it uncommit the ones in the LP branch too?
[15:51] <MTecknology> ya
[15:51] <mhall119> oh, I had just assumed it wouldn't
[15:51] <MTecknology> the way i'd suggest will do essentially the same - but it'll bring you back to revision 0
[15:53] <MTecknology> mkdir tmp; cd tmp; bzr init
[15:53] <MTecknology> bzr merge lp:ubuntu-drupal-theme
[15:53] <MTecknology> bzr commit -m "Your own message"
[15:53] <MTecknology> bzr push lp:ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme --overwrite
[15:54] <MTecknology> either way you need to attach --overwrite because you're going back in time - and developers don't like time travel :P
[15:54] <MTecknology> heck....
[15:54] <mhall119> okay, that makes sense
[15:55] <MTecknology> mkdir tmp; cd tmp; bzr init; bzr mergelp:ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme; bzr commit -m "foo"; bzr push lp:ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme --overwrite
[15:55] <MTecknology> you can exclude any other branches from it :P
[15:56] <mhall119> pushing now
[15:56] <MTecknology> Remaking branch to merge instead of pull from drupal dev's branch
[15:58] <MTecknology> newz2000: You should fix up 'bzr whoami' It's kinda ugly right now - Matthew Nuzum <matt@matthew-nuzums-macbook-pro.local>
[15:59] <mhall119> MTecknology: did I do that right?
[15:59] <MTecknology> mhall119: yup
[16:00] <MTecknology> mhall119: take a peak - https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme
[16:00] <mhall119> but the changelog still has it as revision 32
[16:00] <MTecknology> not here
[16:00] <MTecknology> Recent revisions
[16:00] <MTecknology> 1. By Michael Hall <mhall@mhall-laptop> 1 minute ago
[16:00] <MTecknology> Remaking branch to merge instead of pull from drupal dev's branch
[16:01] <mhall119> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme/changes
[16:01] <MTecknology> :S
[16:02] <MTecknology> mhall119: that's odd
[16:03]  * mhall119 hopes he didn't screw things up
[16:04] <mhall119> oh, interesting, I now have negative revision numbers
[16:04] <stas> hey guys
[16:04] <mhall119> previous rev 31 is not rev 0, previous 30 is not -1, etc
[16:04] <mhall119> that's a cool way of doing it
[16:05] <stas> I got some updates: http://stas.nerd.ro/pub/light-base-theme/wp/
[16:05] <stas> :)
[16:05]  * newz2000 is still on the phone, bb soon
[16:05] <MTecknology> mhall119: I just asked what happened with that in #lp
[16:05] <mhall119> I saw
[16:06] <mhall119> I wonder if it's just sequentially numbering revisions, instead of using the actual revision #
[16:08] <MTecknology> it's odd - /me looks
[16:09] <MTecknology> Branched 1 revision(s).
[16:14] <MTecknology> mhall119: the only thing I could think of is 1) something is messed up on their end or 2) bzr branch lp:ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme; cd light-drupal-theme; bzr reconcile; bzr push lp:ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme --overwrite
[16:14] <MTecknology> mhall119: or your original plan of deleting - I'd wait a bit though and see if maybe it's a loggerhead bug
[17:22] <newz2000> hi gang, I'm here
[17:22]  * newz2000 reads the history
[17:23] <newz2000> that is ugly
[17:23]  * newz2000 will do
[17:26] <jcastro> hi webbers! We'd like to give more visibility to operation cleansweep, I'd like to ask/wonder what it would take to get the patch review slider we made on planet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperationCleansweep
[17:27] <stas> newz2000: I tagged the theme as beta http://stas.nerd.ro/pub/light-base-theme/wp/
[17:28] <stas> code is on lp, rev 6
[17:29] <newz2000> stas: it's looking good, did you get help on the comments?
[17:29] <stas> newz2000: nope, done by myself
[17:29] <newz2000> :-(
[17:30] <stas> I will post a video on how to manage it
[17:31] <stas> since there are 8 or 9 widgets
[17:31] <stas> and some of them offer fantastic content management
[17:32] <stas> also, there are some css/js easter eggs like .awesome class and .slider class
[17:32] <newz2000> :-)
[17:33] <stas> awesome generates those fancy buttons and .slider generates a slider from an element's children img tags
[17:37] <stas> btw wp.30 is out :)
[17:37] <newz2000> I just updated
[17:37] <newz2000> as in, 15 seconds ago
[17:38] <newz2000> I wonder if I should switch from svn to a normal release
[17:38] <stas> I've been on 3.0 since beta/alfas and it was pretty stable
[17:38] <newz2000> yeah, me too
[17:39] <newz2000> haven't had one issue
[17:39] <stas> wp-devs are celebrating :)
[17:44] <stas> knome: when you got some time, test the new theme rev.6 in lp
[18:00] <newz2000> stas: jono is excited by your theme, he wants to use it right away
[18:00] <newz2000> but he has to use it on 2.x, do you think he'll be OK?
[18:00] <stas> newz2000: give me a sec so I can add some compatibility checks
[18:00] <newz2000> ok
[18:02] <stas> newz2000: oh, no I think he's safe, I rewrote today that part with required wp3.0 api
[18:02] <stas> to be sure I can make an install locally with 2.9
[18:03] <daker> hi
[18:03] <newz2000> stas: I'll test too
[18:03] <newz2000> btw, I will be very difficult to reach tomorrow, I may have Jono or his minions come here for help if they need it
[18:05] <stas> newz2000: that means I will do the most today so there be no problems tomorrow
[18:06] <newz2000> :-) I'm going to email some people to help test the theme
[18:06] <daker> newz2000, i'll test it
[18:07] <newz2000> daker: awesome
[18:07] <daker> stas, wp 2.9 or 3.0 ?
[18:08] <newz2000> I think we'll have more 2.9 users initially, if you can test with that it'd be awesome
[18:08] <daker> great
[18:13] <daker> stas, just to make sure i am right,  bzr branch lp:~sushkov/ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme ?
[18:14] <newz2000> we should merge that in I think
[18:14] <stas> newz2000: works flowlessly with 2.9
[18:14] <newz2000> great
[18:14] <stas> daker: yes
[18:15] <stas> newz2000: got a vide, posting it in a second
[18:19]  * stas zomg on core 2 duo 2.4Ghz and still coding 5m of ogm vide
[18:19] <newz2000> yeah, I've been creating some ogg video this week too
[18:20] <newz2000> the crazy thing is that h.264 takes about 1m per 1m of video, ogg takes like 5m per 1m
[18:20] <stas> yeah... it takes as long as creating one :)
[18:21] <newz2000> stas: what do you use for screencasts?
[18:21] <stas> gtk-recordmydesktop
[18:21] <stas> is there something better?
[18:21] <newz2000> I don't know, when I tried that a while back it crashed my desktop
[18:21] <newz2000> so now I boot into another os and use a non-free tool
[18:22] <mhall119> I've used gtk-recordmydesktop
[18:23] <stas> it worked for me, but afaik it works ok only on gnome wm
[18:23] <mhall119> I've used istanbul before too
[18:23] <newz2000> I should try again I guess
[18:24]  * stas ~80%
[18:25] <newz2000> It would be awesome if vimeo could do it. Then one tool for editing and capturing.
[18:25] <newz2000> oops, not vimeo
[18:26] <newz2000> pitivi
[18:27] <stas> yep
[18:27] <stas> ok i got the ogm
[18:27] <stas> im trying to put it on youtube but its really slow
[18:45] <stas> newz2000: http://ubuntuone.com/p/7LP/
[18:45] <newz2000> stas: is that a video?
[18:45] <stas> amazingly ubuntu one was the fastest :)
[18:45] <stas> yes
[18:45] <stas> using 2.9
[18:45] <newz2000> cool, I'll send an email
[18:45] <newz2000> then I think I'll get some lunch and come back and help test myself
[18:46] <newz2000> stas: should we ask people to file bugs or do you want emails back to the list?
[18:46] <stas> newz2000: great, I'll be waiting, till then Ill finish some wp localizations
[18:46] <stas> newz2000: bugs
[18:46] <stas> I love lp
[18:46] <stas> or if they are easier with emails
[18:46] <stas> be then emails
[18:47] <newz2000> Is there a way to link new bugs with the branch?
[18:47] <stas> the video is shows how to install the theme, set up the main page and blog page and how to add menus
[18:47] <stas> newz2000: dunno
[18:48] <mhall119> newz2000: what do you mean?
[18:48] <newz2000> so when someone reports a new bug we know it's for the wordpress code, not drupal or something else
[18:48] <newz2000> ah, found it
[18:48] <newz2000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme
[18:48] <mhall119> usually branches are associated with bugs when the branch contains a fix
[18:49] <mhall119> right?
[18:49] <newz2000> we have a series for each project (wordpress, drupal, base, etc)
[18:49] <mhall119> oh, you mean against the series
[18:49] <mhall119> ok
[18:49] <mhall119> thought you were talking about the bzr branch
[18:50] <newz2000> well, I was but the series seems to be the answer
[18:52] <newz2000> ok, I better go eat, be back in a bit
[18:57] <mhall119> moved light-django-theme to a branch owned by ~ubuntu-website-community
[19:03] <daker> stas, how can i add a sidebar ?
[19:04] <stas> daker: the sidebars are available only for news aka blog pages and single post pages
[19:04] <stas> there's no need for sidebar for static pages
[19:04] <stas> I wanted to save more space for content
[19:13] <mhall119> the default.css is still pointing to http://s.ubuntu.ru/ for a lot of images
[19:14] <mhall119> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/595621
[19:14] <mhall119> I've submitted a merge proposal to light-base-theme
[19:14] <mhall119> I added light-wordpress-theme and light-drupal-theme to the bug, because I'm not sure if you're using the same css or not
[19:15] <mhall119> stas: MTecknology ^^
[19:15] <stas> mhall119: nope light-wordpress-theme doesn't depend on light-base-theme css
[19:16] <daker> stas, http://imagebin.org/101657
[19:17] <stas> daker: thats why I posted the video
[19:17] <daker> ah :)
[19:17] <stas> delete the widget title for pages widget
[19:18] <MTecknology> mhall119: hm?
[19:19] <mhall119> MTecknology: the default.css from light-base-theme was referencing images on another server
[19:19] <MTecknology> mhall119: the drupal version isn't yet based on the base theme
[19:20] <mhall119> oh, I thought that's what the new branch was that I was screwing up earlier
[19:20] <MTecknology> nope, that's the ubuntu-drupal version that we've been working on for a while now
[19:21] <mhall119> oh, ok
[19:21] <mhall119> I'll take you off the list too then
[19:21] <MTecknology> I need to fix some bugs and start taking some parts off and basing against the base-theme version
[19:52] <MTecknology> mhall119: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme/+bug/595644
[19:58] <mhall119> MTecknology: cool, are you on the ubuntu-website-community team?
[19:58] <MTecknology> mhall119: no
[19:58] <newz2000> hey stas, around still?
[19:59] <jono> hey
[19:59] <stas> newz2000: yep
[19:59] <newz2000> hey jono
[19:59] <newz2000> stas: I just got back, jono is trying to test
[19:59] <MTecknology> mhall119: it's just cjohnston, newz2000, and you
[19:59] <newz2000> says its not listed in his themes… any tricks?
[19:59] <stas> oh cool, hey jono
[19:59] <jono> hey stas
[19:59] <mhall119> newz2000: can you add MTecknology to the ubuntu-website-community team so he can maintain the light-drupal-theme branch?
[19:59] <stas> lets see if you guys can build a cool website out of it without my help :)
[19:59] <newz2000> mhall119: yes, what's his lp nick?
[20:00] <MTecknology> <- newz2000
[20:00] <MTecknology> that's not pretty.... :(
[20:00]  * MTecknology <- newz2000
[20:00] <MTecknology> there :)
[20:01] <jono> so I am running the branch on my new website I am building for ubuntu.com
[20:01] <newz2000> ok, give me a moment
[20:01] <jono> happy to test
[20:01] <stas> jono: what wp version?
[20:01] <jono> ping me when you have an update, I am just working on something else at the moment
[20:01] <jono> stas, most recent 2.x
[20:01] <jono> I am running it out of svn so I can upgrade easily
[20:01] <stas> ok, should work
[20:01] <jono> cool
[20:01] <newz2000> stas: do we just cd wp-content/themes && bzr branch lp:~sushkov/ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme
[20:01] <stas> just tested it with 2.9, there's a video if you got 5m free
[20:01] <newz2000> ?
[20:01] <jono> ahhh it is in the broken themes section
[20:01] <jono> says the template is missing
[20:02] <jono> newz2000, thats what I did
[20:02] <stas> jono: its a child theme, install thematic framework
[20:02] <jono> install what?
[20:02] <newz2000> stas: ah
[20:02] <stas> a theme, called thematic
[20:02] <jono> ok, have a link?
[20:02] <newz2000> http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/thematic
[20:02] <stas> use themes -> add new
[20:03] <jono> right
[20:03] <newz2000> stas: do we put this theme inside the thematic folder?
[20:03] <stas> nope
[20:03] <newz2000> or next to it?
[20:03] <daker> no outside
[20:03] <stas> next ot it
[20:03] <stas> its a dependancy
[20:03] <stas> thematic for wordpress is like zen theme for drupal
[20:04] <stas> i should add a screenshot to it btw
[20:04] <newz2000> ok, I see it now
[20:04] <newz2000> jono: if you're in a rush, you may need to wait...
[20:04] <newz2000> it will take a little time to get it looking good
[20:04] <newz2000> I mean you need to fiddle with it a bit
[20:05] <jono> ok it works
[20:05] <jono> thanks chaps
[20:05] <jono> I will wait for you to refine it and in the meantime I will check the video
[20:06] <jono> stas, do you have a feature so I can exclude pages from the nav bar?
[20:06] <jono> that will be key for me
[20:07] <stas> you need a plugin for wordpress 2.9
[20:07] <stas> in wordpress 3.0 its all included
[20:07] <stas> I need to check exactly what can we use in 2.9
[20:08] <jono> stas, odd, with other themes I have used it has been of the theme
[20:09] <jono> I ask because IS are really uncomfortable about including lots of plugins
[20:09] <jono> so I am trying to keep the plugin count *really* low, and preferably no plugins
[20:10] <newz2000> stas: this will be a reoccurring prob since the locos often use canonical's hosting
[20:10] <jono> can you build this into the theme stas?
[20:10] <stas> jono: yes, I think I can
[20:10] <newz2000> stas: do you like working on your own or do you want me to push for more wp help?
[20:11] <stas> how hard would be to upgrade to 3.0?
[20:11] <jono> stas, awesome
[20:11] <stas> newz2000: i can handle everything by myself so far, though i avoid doing tests, too lazy :)
[20:11] <jono> stas, unlikely
[20:12] <jono> easy for me to upgrade, but IS won't run it
[20:12] <newz2000> stas: not going to be at the top of IS's priority list
[20:12] <jono> they will run 2.x until 3.x is fully stable
[20:12] <newz2000> jono: went stable today!
[20:12] <stas> IS means what?
[20:12] <newz2000> sys admins
[20:12] <jono> newz2000, hah, it is a .0 release thoiugh
[20:12] <jono> newz2000, dude, you know what IS are like :-)
[20:13] <newz2000> yeah, totally
[20:13] <jono> newz2000, maybe we should not second guess IS and check with them
[20:13] <jono> newz2000, let me do this now
[20:14] <stas> how bad are your sysadmins? If they need help I can assist them :)
[20:14]  * mhall119 is once again amazed by bzr
[20:15] <jono> ok talking with elmo now
[20:15] <newz2000> stas: they've got a lot of responsibility and if they mess up they end up on the front page of slashdot and digg
[20:15]  * newz2000 has been there, that kind of popularity is no fun
[20:15] <stas> ok, now I understand their position :)
[20:15] <mhall119> heh
[20:16] <stas> there some good features added into wp 3.0 so I would consider upgrading, even if it's a .0
[20:17] <jono> stas, newz2000 ok elmo confirmed 3.x will be fine
[20:17] <jono> which is awesome
[20:17] <stas> kewl
[20:17] <newz2000> wow, I'm stunned
[20:17] <jono> same here
[20:17] <jono> so stas, focus on 3.x
[20:18] <jono> I will upgrade my test site and test there too
[20:18] <stas> maybe 3.x has something they're waiting some long time so it worth
[20:18] <jono> hah
[20:18] <jono> he may have been drunk, also
[20:18] <jono> lol
[20:18] <stas> :)
[20:18] <newz2000> stas: you're right, actually… it lets them ditch mu
[20:19] <stas> jono: I will try to create an export xml with a demo wordpress loco website so you can test everything without creating content and stuff like that manually
[20:20] <jono> stas, its ok, I have the content already in place, I just need to make sure the theme can display it right
[20:20] <stas> also that xml file can be used as a skeleton for loco websites as we discussed it with newz2000 yesterday
[20:20] <jono> I will keep developing my content in another theme and then move it to the new theme when ready
[20:20] <jono> stas, I assume the nav bar shows the pages on the site
[20:20] <jono> and the lower nav bar are subpages?
[20:21] <stas> jono: yes, in wp 3.0 you got a new feature where you can create custom menus, so you can place whatever you want in those nav bars
[20:21] <jono> stas, awesome
[20:21] <jono> i will play with it and see what I can do
[20:21] <stas> jono: yes, but not necessary, I placed there sublist pages, but you can place there a twitter status
[20:21] <jono> stas, so just so you know, you new theme will be driving developer.ubuntu.com and uds.ubuntu.com
[20:21] <jono> :)
[20:21] <jono> those are the sites I signed up to work on
[20:22] <stas> jono: wow, thats awesome, you better keep me updated if there's something broken or that requires attention, so I can fix it asap
[20:23] <jono> stas, will do, I will be testing on my local sites, so we will stay in touch
[20:23] <mhall119> you're on the hook now stas
[20:23] <jono> these will not be blogs but conventional websites
[20:23] <mhall119> don't want to be on the frontpage of slashdot
[20:23] <jono> stas, does your theme support widgets?
[20:23] <stas> great, I need to write some docs for it then
[20:23] <knome> stas, was ;)
[20:23] <jono> mhall119, lool
[20:23] <jono> lol
[20:23] <knome> hey jono :)
[20:23] <jono> hey knome
[20:24] <stas> jono: yes, but I moved them only to blog view, and left the above footer widget area and asides for the rest
[20:24] <stas> jono: I'll post a video with all those features ok
[20:25] <stas> knome: thanks for the tips on those widgets/asides :)
[20:25] <knome> stas, no problem
[20:25] <jono> thanks stas
[20:25] <knome> stas, if you need more ideas, just poke me
[20:25] <jono> so where do I configure the nav?
[20:25] <jono> ahh I see it
[20:25] <knome> stas, which theme were you talking about? the wp?
[20:25] <stas> knome: wp
[20:25] <knome> stas, okay
[20:26] <jono> it says the current theme doesnt support menus in the menu editor
[20:26] <knome> stas, i'll give it a go later today or tomorrow
[20:26] <jono> is that right stas?
[20:26] <stas> jono: did you create any menus?
[20:26] <jono> not yet
[20:26] <jono> my previous theme just used the pages
[20:26] <stas> create a custom menu with some pages/links
[20:27] <jono> ok
[20:27]  * stas going to rec a video how to use the theme brb
[20:27] <jono> done that
[20:28] <jono> how do I add it to the nav?
[20:29] <MTecknology> jono: HI!
[20:30] <jono> hey MTecknology
[20:30] <MTecknology> jono: haven't noticed you in a while - figured i have to pounce
[20:34] <jono> stas, ^^ how to add the menu to the nav?
[20:34] <stas> look at widgets
[20:34] <stas> there should be a widget called custom menu
[20:35] <jono> ahhh ok
[20:35] <stas> add it, a dropdown list shold appear in options
[20:37] <jono> awesome it
[20:37] <jono> works
[20:37] <jono> so to have the submenu in the grey bar
[20:37] <jono> how does that work
[20:37] <jono> how do I define a subpage for a page?
[20:37] <jono> to put in that menu
[20:41] <jono> oh hang on
[20:41] <jono> I might have this
[20:41] <jono> ahhh no it didnt work
[20:43] <jono> stas, ^^
[20:43] <jono> so I just need to figure out how to get subpages in the gray sub-nav
[20:45]  * newz2000 has to move on to other tasks now
[20:47] <jono> thanks newz2000
[20:51] <mhall119> progess so far on updating loco-directory to the new theme: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8001/
[20:52] <mhall119> only teams pages and about are using the new theme so far
[20:57] <stas> jono: i finished the video
[20:57] <jono> stas, cool
[20:57] <stas> just a sec so I can upload
[20:58] <stas> jono: I think I will remove that secondary widget menu and add there automatic subpages listing
[20:58] <stas> its the best afaik and will require no additional plugins
[20:58] <stas> just the theme
[20:58] <jono> stas, would would be perfect
[20:59] <jono> stas, although you will want to make sure you can exclude pages from the submenu
[20:59] <stas> I was using widget context for that
[20:59] <stas> it adds some nice controls over widgets
[20:59] <stas> http://konstruktors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/widget-context-settings-0.4.1.png
[21:00] <stas> adds that wide widget context options panel
[21:00] <jono> is that a plugin?
[21:01] <stas> yes
[21:01] <stas> its not included in core
[21:01] <stas> too bad actually
[21:01]  * stas video is still encoding ~20%
[21:02] <jono> stas, so I have a proposal for you:
[21:02] <stas> jono: shoot
[21:03] <jono> ok, so imagine we have:
[21:03] <jono> Page
[21:03] <jono>   Sub-page
[21:03] <jono>   Sub-page 2
[21:03] <jono>  Sub-page 3
[21:03] <jono> one page with three sub-pages
[21:03] <stas> ok
[21:04] <jono> the optimal workflow for me is that I set it up like this in WP and then when I click on Page in the nav, the sub-pages automatically appear in the grey bar
[21:04] <jono> but then I can somehow explicitly exclude a sub-page from the nav
[21:04] <jono> without plugins
[21:04] <jono> can you do this inside the theme?
[21:04] <jono> actually, dude
[21:04] <jono> ignore me
[21:04] <jono> ignore the excluding pages requirement
[21:05] <jono> can you just have the grey box just automatically show the sub-pages?
[21:05] <stas> jono: sure, thats what I was talking right before you started the proposal :)
[21:06] <jono> stas, perfect!
[21:06] <jono> that would solve me problem perfectly
[21:06] <jono> if you can hack on this, I will update my branch
[21:06] <stas> ok commit to follow soon
[21:07] <jono> nice!
[21:07] <jono> thanks stas
[21:14] <jono> stas, what is an "aside" in the widget view?
[21:14] <stas> the're named
[21:15] <stas> actually the widget areas
[21:15] <stas> on the right listed
[21:31] <stas> jono: try pulling the changes
[21:31] <jono> thanks stas
[21:32] <jono> good work stas!
[21:32] <jono> works great
[21:32] <stas> ok the video with all the features is comming along
[21:33] <stas> now uploading to ubuntuone
[21:34] <jono> thanks stas!
[21:36] <jono> stas, how is the ordering of the sub-pages handled?
[21:37] <stas> I think alphabetically
[21:37] <stas> let me check
[21:37] <jono> could we use the Order in the page to handle this?
[21:37] <jono> every page has an Order numerical reference
[21:38] <stas> 'post_title' - Sort Pages alphabetically (by title) - default
[21:38] <jono> hmm
[21:38] <jono> that might no work so well
[21:38] <stas> jono: ok I'm setting it as by order
[21:39] <jono> awesome
[21:39] <jono> thanks!
[21:39] <jono> would it be ok to remove the tagline from under the logo?
[21:39] <jono> I think most users will want to use an image the full height of the header
[21:39] <jono> stas, btw, the site I am building is at http://developer.recreantview.org/
[21:40] <stas> jono: here're some tips
[21:40] <stas> get some <img tags inside a <div class="slider">
[21:41] <stas> and those will slide
[21:41] <jono> we support the lider?
[21:41] <jono> slider
[21:41] <jono> sweet!
[21:41] <stas> :)
[21:41] <jono> do I do:
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[21:41] <stas> yes
[21:41] <jono> sweet
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[21:41] <stas> otherwise wp will add <br/>
[21:41] <jono> can I hyperlink each image for a clickthrough?
[21:41] <stas> yes
[21:41] <jono> woo!
[21:42] <stas> you can also add titles
[21:42] <jono> nice!
[21:42] <stas> jono: you should get something like this http://nivo.dev7studios.com/
[21:42] <stas> also, add the class 'awesome' to a link, and it will look like a big fat orange button :)
[21:43] <stas> <a class="awesome" ... >t</a>
[21:45] <jono> nice!
[21:45] <jono> you have done awesome work here, stas
[21:45] <jono> thankyou so much
[21:46] <jono> ok I am headed back hom
[21:46] <jono> home
[21:46] <jono> biab
[21:46] <stas> glad I could be useful :)