[01:00] hello everyone! [01:01] are there plans for syncing with kontact? [01:01] * josephnexus hasn't tried using ubuntuone under kde [01:14] i'm having trouble adding a machine to ubuntu one [01:16] Found it in the faq [01:16] woohoo! [01:25] josephnexus: good for you :) [02:14] verterok: blah x_X that nasty assignment took me hours :/// [02:15] verterok: and it's 3AM here already. wrrrr. as I'm getting up in 5 hours, I'll better call it a day and have a look on those .py sources and reading materials you gave me, tomorrow. (by that I mean today after I get up ;d ) [02:16] verterok: by the way, I like low lever programming, we'll see what I'll come up with ;) [02:16] verterok: I'll be going now. Have a goog evening and night! [02:16] c ya everybody [04:05] hi [04:05] the tutorial on the website says to click "add this computer" however I am unable to find that link anywhere on the ubuntuone site. Where is it? [04:07] nm found answers in the faq [04:07] :) [04:27] hi kiamo [04:51] kiamo: when you were going through the tutorial on the website, did opening the Ubuntu One Preferences application open a web browser? [04:53] yea it did, but there wasn't a link on the page to add a new computer [04:54] s'ok, the faq offered a command to run in the terminal which got my computer connected to one [05:13] kiamo: would you mind walking me through what happened when you were following the tutorial on the website and the browser popped up? we get at least 1 message a day from people who hit this same issue. i'd like to figure out how we can update the tutorial on the website. [05:15] no problem [05:15] my default browser is google chrome [05:15] I opened up the ubuntu one prefs and clicked manage account [05:16] it opened a tab in chome (which was already open) [05:16] I logged in [05:16] and could not find a link to "add my computer" anywhere on the site. I looked through most of the pages. [05:17] then I saw there was an irc room, logged in, and read the faq and entered that cmd suggested. [05:18] Then after a small delay chrome opened a tab confirming I wanted to my computer. I confirmed and it was done. [05:19] kiamo: ok... i think clicking "manage account" caused the problem. in order for Ubuntu One Preferences to know what Ubuntu One account to sync with, a token has to be stored on your desktop (found in Passwords & Encryption Keys). If Ubuntu One Preferences doesn't find that token when it's first run, it will open the browser to the Add A Computer process (which drops the token). I think when you clicked Manage Account, it [05:19] kiamo: this is very helpful. i'll see what we can do about changing the instructions so they're a bit more clear. thanks for your help :) [05:20] no problem :) [05:23] * jblount notices that mattgriffin never sleeps [05:23] :) [05:24] jblount: what are you doing up? [05:25] mattgriffin: My AC is out, so I'm working in the evenings to try to get some things done. [05:25] My laptop was too dang hot to be typing this afternoon! [05:26] jblount: heh === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg|away is now known as cpg === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg|away is now known as cpg [08:31] morning guys === cpg is now known as cpg|away [10:08] Hi there everyone! I bought some music for the first time on ubuntu one store, about a hour and a half ago, but I still can't listen to it. Does anyone know if this is normal? [10:15] ok... so I'm new and alone... [10:59] honk ^ eugeniote [10:59] eugeniote: you're not alone, wait for some help [10:59] mkarnicki, he left before I noticed the message :( [10:59] oh ooops [10:59] didn't see him leave [11:00] well, happens :( [11:00] mkarnicki, i need to poke alecu again since there appears to be some kind of intermittent issue with song downloads [11:00] rye: I see.. [11:48] morning all [11:59] duanedesign, morning! [13:03] made a patch for a typo bug. bug 595374 === zyga is now known as zyga_away [13:57] rye: the gnomekeyring.IOError can be worked around with gnome-keyring-daemon; ubuntuone-preferences [13:58] is their a long term workaround so they dont have to do this every time [13:58] duanedesign, most likely gnome-keyring-daemon died (why - this is strange)... [13:58] duanedesign, could you please provide the bug #? [13:58] yes. I have a couple.... [13:59] bug 590489 [13:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/590489 [14:00] rye: actually here is one Mitch worked on with more info [14:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/579158 [14:07] I think this was the first bug on that. bug 567194 [14:11] rye: this might be the upstream report? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=616861 [14:14] duanedesign, it may be but it is strange that it is not that easily reproducible [14:15] duanedesign, if there is a bug in startup sequence and gnome-keyring does not get started then it should be more visible... my systems depend on gnome-keyring very much (empathy, nm, ubuntuone) and even autologged ones work fine === JUMPA is now known as jumpa [14:29] hmm [14:43] * verterok waves [14:45] verterok: you're waving to say hello or goodbye ^ ^ ? [14:45] verterok: I just came back from classes. [14:46] mkarnicki: hi! [14:46] verterok: hello ^ ^ [14:46] verterok: you recovered my hopes yesterday, you know! [14:46] :) [14:47] though I finished at 3 AM and didn't have strength to work on that, I'll start that really soon. [15:06] does ubuntuone look for modified chunks in the files and only sync those, a-la-rsync? or just file is compressed and always sync-ed completely? [15:07] aleksander_m: the latter. [15:09] duanedesign: aha, thanks [15:50] aleksander_m: currently the latter, anyway [15:57] and... how does this couchdb sync work? is it just some file which is synchronized as any other file? or do the couchdbs have some special treatment? [15:58] aleksander_m, couchdb replicates vis it's own HTTP/JSON-based protocol [16:01] aha, I see [16:01] rye, thanks [16:04] hello, I have a runaway desktopcouch process, and I cannot login to it using: $HOME/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html [16:10] lapion: killall beam.smp; killall beam [16:11] lapion: to restart: dbus-send --session --dest=org.desktopcouch.CouchDB --print-reply --type=method_call / org.desktopcouch.CouchDB.getPort [16:11] Wow, I'm ever more impressed with Thunderbird. Version 3 is almost not-at-all-sucky. [16:12] CardinalFang: nice. I have not tried it. [16:12] Since 10.04, it's pretty good. [16:12] The v2 was awful. [16:12] The search and IMAP in v3 is great. [16:14] ive started using the calendar in Evolution. I like the alarm for ToDo items. Works through the clock/date applet so you dont have to have Evo open to get the reminder [16:15] CardinalFang, does it still move mails to local mailboxes ? [16:15] Move? No, not unless I want it to. [16:16] I am using IMAP, not POP3, note. [16:16] CardinalFang, I use imap and anytime I move mail from mainbox to one of the serverbased boxes it copies the mail to a files with the same name as the mailbox on the server [16:16] thunderbird would be nice if it weren't so upsetting [16:17] *file [16:17] it has an offline cache, yes [16:17] but it doesn't *move* it [16:17] CardinalFang, it copies the mail to a local file with the same name as the mailbox on the server [16:18] dobey, yeah but it doesn't put the file in the correct sub-folder in the mailbox on the server [16:18] *file=mail [16:20] okay let me elaborate and clarify. [16:21] ok, well i've never seen that problem [16:21] granted i only use tb on windows [16:22] dobey, on the server I have a user, for which I have several folders within it's account, however whenever I move mails around from the mainbox to one of the sub-boxed the mail get moved to a local-box in the home folder [16:22] home-folder, that's the folder on the localcomputer [16:36] check it out, later I found out that may of the mails I had been moving on the server where in a file on the local computer and the mails where just marked as deleted on the server, and nowhere to be found the the destination folder on the server [16:37] dobey, CardinalFang have you found the same behaviour ? [16:44] lapion, I use a hierarchy of folders on the server archives/YYYY/MM My only access to that is through IMAP. [16:44] lapion, I don't use local files at all, except for catching spam. [16:46] CardinalFang, I also use many folders on the server however thunderbird keeps on putting the mails locally [16:47] lapion, Nope, never seen that. [16:50] check your homedir for file with the same name as folders to which you copy regularly [16:51] Homedir locally? What would that tell me about what's on the server? [16:51] that would tell you that something is not going according to play [16:51] plan [16:53] of course I have not checked th 3 out yet.. [16:54] lapion, I have a tree that matches the IMAP layout, and it has one file per directory tip. Some extended with ".msf", others not. [16:55] No, all tips have a file with the name of the tip and ${tip}.msf . [16:57] lapion, and each tip is a mail archive. .msf is some structured data. [16:58] None of this alarms me, though. All these folders are marked for use offline. [17:00] CardinalFang, yeah I think the problem I used to have is solved.. [17:01] CardinalFang, but the problem was truly a pain in the .... [17:02] lapion, the IMAP subsystem is rewritten, I think. If you only used v2 before, then v3 will be very different. [17:02] CardinalFang, you can say that again.. === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [17:10] lapion: by locally do you mean in "Local:/Inbox/folder" or do you mean in "$HOME/folder" on your filesystem, here? [17:13] yes dobey thunderbird used to put the files in $HOME/foldername-file [17:13] * CardinalFang boggles. [17:14] were you dragging to outside the thunderbird window? [17:14] nope [17:14] sounds like you were having a drag and drop problem [17:15] not even when clicking on the mail and selecting from the menu [17:15] maybe there is some (mis)configuration on your system or something, causing it to do that. i've never seen that happen [17:16] for the longest time I took it for granted but when I started working on different systems I stopped moving mails around using thunderbird, and settled for moving them around in webmail [17:17] last time I had that behavior was on ubuntu 8.10 ( don't remember thunderbird version) [17:19] don't know. i just use evolution [17:19] but e-mail makes me sad [17:19] but I ahd the same behavior on several different systems [17:22] even on a mac at the office but that was no problem because I was only using it to expunge a gigbyte of spam [17:22] from a server === cpg|away is now known as cpg [17:31] heyas :) I use Xmonad, and I would like to know what services do I need to have running for Ubuntu1 to sync my folders [17:31] ie, I have ubuntuone-syncdaemon running, but files are not sync from diff computers === jumpa is now known as JUMPA [17:54] um. not sure if I understand this correctly, I do a u1sdtool --list-folders and is empty, but I see folders in the web interfase [17:54] interface [17:55] runa, what is u1sdtool --status ? [17:56] rye: connected, online, no error [17:56] runa, queues = ? [17:56] IDLE [17:57] have to go now, brb. thanks! [17:57] runa, it looks like it is working, what ubuntu version are you running ? [17:57] 10.04 i believe [17:58] runa, if you put a file to Ubuntu One folder does it get synced / [17:58] ? === JUMPA is now known as jumpa === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === jumpa is now known as JUMPA [18:23] How long does it take to experience a purchased song from the "Ubuntu One Music Store" in their own "Ubuntu One" visible? The receipt mail is from 14:30 CET in Rhythmbox but since the title is to "Queued". [18:25] honk ^ ? [18:27] iRcNoAsE, hi [18:27] has the song downloaded to the web ui? [18:27] beuno: no, there is no song in den web ui [18:28] alecu, mattgriffin, ^ [18:29] iRcNoAsE, we are currently experiencing some problems with song downloads; can you please tell me the name of the song and album? [18:31] alecu: Herbert Grönemeyer - song "Video" - album "Luxus" [18:32] iRcNoAsE, ok, we'll look into it. Sorry for the delay. [18:32] alecu: thx === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:19] rye: sorry, back. yes, I copied my files to the Ubuntu One dir in one box, and synced from the other. that worked perfect. but then, I modified the files in the 2nd box and changes were not synced to the first box [19:20] runa, were these changes synced to the web storage? [19:20] rye: letme see === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:21] rye: yep [19:21] ah [19:21] weird [19:22] they're synced now [19:22] interesting [19:22] ok, sorry for all the hassle ;) [19:25] runa, you are very welcome [19:30] I don't see the syncing progress in my tob bar in gnome any more with ubuntu one.. Is there something I am missing? [19:40] honk [19:41] ezra-s: is this just randomly or is this after an update from Ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 LTS? [19:41] ezra-s, you upgraded to Lucid? [19:41] beuno, yes [19:41] right, so it's gone [19:41] updated from 9.10 to 10.04 [19:41] ezra-s: this is the expected behavior in 10.04. [19:42] it's kind of hard to know how the process is going and how long will it last until it ends... [19:42] ezra-s: you can use System > Preferences > Ubuntu One to see the current status. [19:42] But knowing what's left and so forth is more difficult. Hopefully they fix it in 10.10. :) [19:42] last night I set some folders in my home to synchronize and today the option in the menu was available again, so I had to re-set them to synchronize [19:43] it just says sync in progress [19:43] I don't want to sound annoying but at least in the earlier version you would see a status icon and a number of files pending for synching [19:44] ezra-s, I completely agree with you [19:44] Chipaca, hai! [19:44] is there any plan to improve this for M? [19:45] btw, this command is supposed to list the folders Im syncing? -> u1sdtool --list-folders? [19:45] that is a question for verterok [19:45] it is saying "No folders" [19:45] and that has me puzzled because Im syncing a few [19:46] same here -> u1sdtool --current-transfers 0 uploads and downloads [19:46] and what does -s tell you? [19:46] to improve what, sorry? [19:47] I've got my head buried in some forms :-/ [19:47] Chipaca, ew [19:47] facundobatista, magicicada - i remember you were talking about ppa - ? [19:47] Chipaca, the visibility of what's going on with syncing on the desktop [19:48] ezra-s: --list-folders will list the "user defined folders", not the directories inside ~/Ubuntu One [19:48] facundobatista, https://launchpad.net/~chicharreros/+archive/ppa - found, thanks! [19:49] verterok, you mean those I right-clicked and selected "Sync with UbuntuOne"? [19:49] beuno: I'm afraid it's not going to get dramatically better for M, no. It's on the map, but probably for N; for M we're focusing on making it better in the you-don't-have-to-worry-about-it department. Meanwhile I'm recommending magicicada as much as I can. [19:49] rye, np [19:50] Chipaca, sounds like I need to spend some time with balsamiq and help out facundobatista and nessita [19:50] ezra-s: I think si [19:50] beuno: yes [19:50] beuno: :) [19:50] ezra-s, https://launchpad.net/~chicharreros/+archive/ppa [19:50] verterok, well not in my case then... :P [19:50] lots of spanish stuff around I see.. chicharreros, haahah [19:50] beuno, "balsamiq"? [19:51] facundobatista: ui design thing [19:51] *so [19:51] facundobatista: voodoo yuyu [19:51] Chipaca, jaja [19:51] ezra-s: mm, what's the status of syncdaemon: u1sdtool -s [19:55] verterok, the results -> http://pastebin.org/337661 [19:56] ezra-s: syncdaemon is working on metadata stuff, try running: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata and u1sdtool --waiting-content [19:56] u1sdtool --waiting-metadata shows a lots of garbled stuff [19:57] I just did [19:57] waiting-content on the other hand showed nothing [19:57] verterok, lots of Unlink(share_id=None, node_id=11a5c9d4-5215-4742-818e-d8c799317d9d, parent_id=9f5396d5-bc3b-44ee-8c81-ea85feb84a6d) === teknico is now known as teknico_away [19:58] ezra-s: do you deleted a lot of stuff? [19:58] verterok, from the ubuntu one folder yes [19:59] ezra-s: ok, it's deleteing all that stuff [19:59] verterok, will it help if I remove it from the ubuntuone site first? [19:59] ezra-s: it will be faster, don't know if it will help :) [20:00] verterok, thanks for the help man! ;) [20:01] np [20:01] * ezra-s cheers for verterok [20:02] is http://one.ubuntu.com done in Django? [20:03] yes [20:03] Ooh, snazzy. [20:04] just wanted to let you know that I'm doing the Django template for the new website theme [20:04] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/light-django-theme [20:04] if there were plans to make one.ubuntu.com use the new look [20:05] so that was it [20:05] I can confirm it [20:11] wgrant, the GET/POST Share name issue has been fixed [20:16] facundobatista, why is magicicada in notification area? [20:19] rye, it's in the "systray" area... in the future you'll be able to configure if you want it (and how minimize and close will work if you have it) [20:20] facundobatista, ... which will not be present in maverick by default... [20:21] rye, ok, if you want the icon, you'll have to add the systray to your panel [20:21] :) [20:21] rye, I know I will [20:21] facundobatista: why isn't it an application indicator instead? [20:22] It Is The Future (TM) you know [20:24] dobey, I don't know the dynamics of application indicators [20:24] dobey, can you click on it and hide/show the main window? [20:25] ugh [20:26] no. you click on it and get a menu. it's a menu. because it's meant to provide consistency :) [20:26] not arbitrary action [20:26] but you can have a show/hide menuitem in the menu [20:28] dobey, I can get a menu with right-click on the icon [20:28] dobey, so, I would actually be losing functionality? [20:29] facundobatista: no. because the 'systray' is going away anyway. didn't you pay attention at UDS? :) [20:31] dobey, I did pay atention [20:31] dobey, but I like systray [20:31] dobey, so, the user can add it to the panel, right? [20:35] facundobatista: afaik, gnome 3 won't have a systray, and will have some other thing, and in 11.04, we won't be shipping the tray either. [20:36] using the tray as a means to replace the window manager's functionality is awful. you really shouldn't do it :) [20:36] dobey, do you know which other thing will gnome have? [20:36] facundobatista: something like indicators afaik === cpg is now known as cpg|away [21:05] what does this python code mean SIZE_FMT = "!I" ? (yea! it's from U1 protocol source, so related :D ! ) [21:23] alecu: Is there a solution to the problem with the transfer of Herbert Grönemeyer - song "Video" - album "Luxus"? [21:29] iRcNoAsE, we are currently experiencing music download problems because we are updating our server infrastructure. I understand that this updates will be done in a few hours, so your songs will show up on your ubuntuone storage shortly after that. [21:30] iRcNoAsE, sorry again for the delay. [21:32] mkarnicki, ping [21:32] alecu: okay, no problem. I can wait ;-) ... Thanks anyway. bye [21:33] beuno: pong [21:33] my pings are low, good [21:33] mkarnicki, hi! quick question, are you doing oauth authentication on the android client yet? [21:34] beuno: done that, implemented. [21:34] beuno: what's up? [21:34] mkarnicki, I'm thinking of a way to provide a mobile web ui from a native app [21:34] beuno: sorry, I'm being rude. hello ^ ^ ! [21:35] beuno: aha. AHA! nice idea =) [21:35] :) [21:35] don't tell anyone [21:35] beuno: but you're thinking of Android? [21:35] I wanted to get an idea of how much I can re-use of what you have [21:35] yes, Android [21:35] probably iphone as well, but lets start with android [21:36] beuno: oh. I think pretty much :) if it's not logged in, it lands on a login-screen (Activity), with a log-in button. [21:36] mkarnicki, great news [21:36] beuno: you press it, browser pops up, authenticate, press "Add this computer", drops back to the app [21:36] beuno: and there you have it [21:36] perfect [21:36] beuno: that's competition to what I'm working my ass off right now xD [21:36] hahaha [21:36] mkarnicki, not at all! [21:37] you're doing the hard part [21:37] the actualy syncing [21:37] beuno: oh. right [21:37] we may work on a basic client that serves as starting point to all the services [21:37] beuno: but that's scheduled for the end of the project, right now it'll be browsing, uploading, etc [21:37] yeah, we may talk in a few months about integrating everything :) [21:38] beuno: wait wait wait, isn't that what you wanted to talk about? [21:38] beuno: like access to notes, bookmarks, playlist, etc ? [21:38] yes [21:38] beuno: I think I'm missing the point. explain how whould that differ from an app I'm currently doing (let's omit the real sync part right now) [21:39] beuno: I mean, please clarify :) [21:39] beuno: me and aquarius have tons of ideas for those [21:39] mkarnicki, well, we want to start integrating more things [21:39] beuno: true :) [21:39] like the contact syncing app (funambol) [21:39] and other hand-wavy services [21:39] beuno: true - I will steal that functionality into my app muahahah :> [21:39] heh [21:40] beuno: but I didn't want to make if official ;d I think I just did [21:40] so, in a few weeks, we can get together and talk a bit about how to merge the two ideas and maybe even codebases [21:40] beuno: but that's just for Android devices, right :) ? funambol will be still up and good for JavaME handling devices, like SE, Nokia, etc [21:40] yes [21:41] beuno: but but... ok :3 I know I can't keep everything for myself haha :> [21:41] we will probably develop native apps for iphone/android, and leave the rest of the platforms as-is [21:41] beuno: we'll talk about that, right know I'm fixing [21:41] beuno: a major flaw of Android - bugs in apache harmony, so we need to downgrade to old Java OIO instead of NIO [21:42] yeah, I don't have a super clear idea of where we're going to go yet [21:42] so we may end up doing a mobile version of the web ui's to make this nicer [21:42] beuno: all I know is that I have planned to make AndroidU1 (or whatever it will be called) an entry point to all those services [21:42] cool [21:43] so, I would suggest to focus on file syncing, and we can figure out how to split some of this work in a few weeks [21:43] beuno: Web UI has: info on the account, notes, files, and.. ? [21:43] mkarnicki, contacts, bookmarks [21:43] beuno: right. [21:43] beuno: bookmarks are already in the web UI ? [21:43] phone set-up [21:43] it does on edge ;) [21:43] edge.one.ubuntu.com [21:43] hehe === cpg|away is now known as cpg [21:44] beuno: I see you're as full of ideas as we are, nice to see that [21:44] :) [21:44] beuno: we'll have tons to talk about [21:44] I've been quiet [21:44] beuno: we've been hiding too, to first focus on little things [21:44] beuno: the project is ~1,5 behind the schedule due to that Android bugs (fixed on Froyo 2.2) [21:45] beuno: but I hope to get up and running again no further than end of this week (and hey there, my exams start then =_= ) [21:45] beuno: ok, I'll head back to work [21:45] mkarnicki, sounds greatm ttl! [21:45] beuno: there's plenty of time to talk those over :) [21:45] ttl? :_: [21:45] sorry, irc-ism [21:46] talk to you later :) [21:46] * mkarnicki what was that acronym [21:46] ah!! like ttfn :D [21:46] ta ta for now :) [21:46] ok, bye beuno ! [21:46] * beuno waves [21:46] * mkarnicki goes back fixing the protocol === teknico_away is now known as teknico