[01:00] <josephnexus> hello everyone!
[01:01] <josephnexus> are there plans for syncing with kontact?
[01:01]  * josephnexus hasn't tried using ubuntuone under kde
[01:14] <josephnexus> i'm having trouble adding a machine to ubuntu one
[01:16] <josephnexus> Found it in the faq
[01:16] <josephnexus> woohoo!
[01:25] <mkarnicki> josephnexus: good for you :)
[02:14] <mkarnicki> verterok: blah x_X that nasty assignment took me hours :///
[02:15] <mkarnicki> verterok: and it's 3AM here already. wrrrr. as I'm getting up in 5 hours, I'll better call it a day and have a look on those .py sources and reading materials you gave me, tomorrow. (by that I mean today after I get up ;d )
[02:16] <mkarnicki> verterok: by the way, I like low lever programming, we'll see what I'll come up with ;)
[02:16] <mkarnicki> verterok: I'll be going now. Have a goog evening and night!
[02:16] <mkarnicki> c ya everybody
[04:05] <kiamo> hi
[04:05] <kiamo> the tutorial on the website says to click "add this computer" however I am unable to find that link anywhere on the ubuntuone site.  Where is it?
[04:07] <kiamo> nm found answers in the faq
[04:07] <kiamo> :)
[04:27] <kermiac> hi kiamo
[04:51] <mattgriffin> kiamo: when you were going through the tutorial on the website, did opening the Ubuntu One Preferences application open a web browser?
[04:53] <kiamo> yea it did, but there wasn't a link on the page to add a new computer
[04:54] <kiamo> s'ok, the faq offered a command to run in the terminal which got my computer connected to one
[05:13] <mattgriffin> kiamo: would you mind walking me through what happened when you were following the tutorial on the website and the browser popped up? we get at least 1 message a day from people who hit this same issue. i'd like to figure out how we can update the tutorial on the website.
[05:15] <kiamo> no problem
[05:15] <kiamo> my default browser is google chrome
[05:15] <kiamo> I opened up the ubuntu one prefs and clicked manage account
[05:16] <kiamo> it opened a tab in chome (which was already open)
[05:16] <kiamo> I logged in
[05:16] <kiamo> and could not find a link to "add my computer" anywhere on the site.  I looked through most of the pages.
[05:17] <kiamo> then I saw there was an irc room, logged in, and read the faq and entered that cmd suggested.
[05:18] <kiamo> Then after a small delay chrome opened a tab confirming I wanted to my computer.  I confirmed and it was done.
[05:19] <mattgriffin> kiamo: ok... i think clicking "manage account" caused the problem. in order for Ubuntu One Preferences to know what Ubuntu One account to sync with, a token has to be stored on your desktop (found in Passwords & Encryption Keys). If Ubuntu One Preferences doesn't find that token when it's first run, it will open the browser to the Add A Computer process (which drops the token). I think when you clicked Manage Account, it 
[05:19] <mattgriffin> kiamo: this is very helpful. i'll see what we can do about changing the instructions so they're a bit more clear. thanks for your help :)
[05:20] <kiamo> no problem :)
[05:23]  * jblount notices that mattgriffin never sleeps
[05:23] <mattgriffin> :)
[05:24] <mattgriffin> jblount: what are you doing up?
[05:25] <jblount> mattgriffin: My AC is out, so I'm working in the evenings to try to get some things done.
[05:25] <jblount> My laptop was too dang hot to be typing this afternoon!
[05:26] <mattgriffin> jblount: heh
[08:31] <mkarnicki> morning guys
[10:08] <eugeniote> Hi there everyone! I bought some music for the first time on ubuntu one store, about a hour and a half ago, but I still can't listen to it. Does anyone know if this is normal?
[10:15] <eugeniote> ok... so I'm new and alone...
[10:59] <mkarnicki> honk ^ eugeniote
[10:59] <mkarnicki> eugeniote: you're not alone, wait for some help
[10:59] <rye> mkarnicki, he left before I noticed the message :(
[10:59] <mkarnicki> oh ooops
[10:59] <mkarnicki> didn't see him leave
[11:00] <mkarnicki> well, happens :(
[11:00] <rye> mkarnicki, i need to poke alecu again since there appears to be some kind of intermittent issue with song downloads
[11:00] <mkarnicki> rye: I see..
[11:48] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:59] <rye> duanedesign, morning!
[13:03] <duanedesign> made a patch for a typo bug. bug 595374
[13:57] <duanedesign> rye: the gnomekeyring.IOError can be worked around with gnome-keyring-daemon; ubuntuone-preferences
[13:58] <duanedesign> is their a long term workaround so they dont have to do this every time
[13:58] <rye> duanedesign, most likely gnome-keyring-daemon died (why - this is strange)...
[13:58] <rye> duanedesign, could you please provide the bug #?
[13:58] <duanedesign> yes. I have a couple....
[13:59] <duanedesign> bug 590489
[13:59] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/590489
[14:00] <duanedesign> rye: actually here is one Mitch worked on with more info
[14:00] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/579158
[14:07] <duanedesign> I think this was the first bug on that. bug 567194
[14:11] <duanedesign> rye: this might be the upstream report? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=616861
[14:14] <rye> duanedesign, it may be but it is strange that it is not that easily reproducible
[14:15] <rye> duanedesign, if there is a bug in startup sequence and gnome-keyring does not get started then it should be more visible... my systems depend on gnome-keyring very much (empathy, nm, ubuntuone) and even autologged ones work fine
[14:29] <dobey> hmm
[14:43]  * verterok waves
[14:45] <mkarnicki> verterok: you're waving to say hello or goodbye ^ ^ ?
[14:45] <mkarnicki> verterok: I just came back from classes.
[14:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: hi!
[14:46] <mkarnicki> verterok: hello ^ ^
[14:46] <mkarnicki> verterok: you recovered my hopes yesterday, you know!
[14:46] <verterok> :)
[14:47] <mkarnicki> though I finished at 3 AM and didn't have strength to work on that, I'll start that really soon.
[15:06] <aleksander_m> does ubuntuone look for modified chunks in the files and only sync those, a-la-rsync? or just file is compressed and always sync-ed completely?
[15:07] <duanedesign> aleksander_m: the latter.
[15:09] <aleksander_m> duanedesign: aha, thanks
[15:50] <dobey> aleksander_m: currently the latter, anyway
[15:57] <aleksander_m> and... how does this couchdb sync work? is it just some file which is synchronized as any other file? or do the couchdbs have some special treatment?
[15:58] <rye> aleksander_m, couchdb replicates vis it's own HTTP/JSON-based protocol
[16:01] <aleksander_m> aha, I see
[16:01] <aleksander_m> rye, thanks
[16:04] <lapion> hello, I have a runaway desktopcouch process, and I cannot login to it using: $HOME/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html
[16:10] <duanedesign> lapion: killall beam.smp; killall beam
[16:11] <duanedesign> lapion: to restart:  dbus-send --session --dest=org.desktopcouch.CouchDB --print-reply --type=method_call / org.desktopcouch.CouchDB.getPort
[16:11] <CardinalFang> Wow, I'm ever more impressed with Thunderbird.  Version 3 is almost not-at-all-sucky.
[16:12] <duanedesign> CardinalFang: nice. I have not tried it.
[16:12] <CardinalFang> Since 10.04, it's pretty good.
[16:12] <CardinalFang> The v2 was awful.
[16:12] <CardinalFang> The search and IMAP in v3 is great.
[16:14] <duanedesign> ive started using the calendar in Evolution. I like the alarm for ToDo items. Works through the clock/date applet so you dont have to have Evo open to get the reminder
[16:15] <lapion> CardinalFang, does it still move mails to local mailboxes ?
[16:15] <CardinalFang> Move?  No, not unless I want it to.
[16:16] <CardinalFang> I am using IMAP, not POP3, note.
[16:16] <lapion> CardinalFang, I use imap and anytime I move mail from mainbox to one of the serverbased boxes it copies the mail to a files with the same name as the mailbox on the server
[16:16] <dobey> thunderbird would be nice if it weren't so upsetting
[16:17] <lapion> *file
[16:17] <dobey> it has an offline cache, yes
[16:17] <dobey> but it doesn't *move* it
[16:17] <lapion> CardinalFang, it copies the mail to a local file with the same name as the mailbox on the server
[16:18] <lapion> dobey, yeah but it doesn't put the file in the correct sub-folder in the mailbox on the server
[16:18] <lapion> *file=mail
[16:20] <lapion> okay let me elaborate and clarify.
[16:21] <dobey> ok, well i've never seen that problem
[16:21] <dobey> granted i only use tb on windows
[16:22] <lapion> dobey, on the server I have a user, for which I have several folders within it's account, however whenever I move mails around from the mainbox to one of the sub-boxed the mail get moved to a local-box in the home folder
[16:22] <lapion> home-folder, that's the folder on the localcomputer
[16:36] <lapion> check it out, later I found out that may of the mails I had been moving on the server where in a file on the local computer and the mails where just marked as deleted on the server, and nowhere to be found the the destination folder on the server
[16:37] <lapion> dobey, CardinalFang have you found the same behaviour ?
[16:44] <CardinalFang> lapion, I use a hierarchy of folders on the server  archives/YYYY/MM  My only access to that is through IMAP.
[16:44] <CardinalFang> lapion, I don't use local files at all, except for catching spam.
[16:46] <lapion> CardinalFang, I also use many folders on the server however thunderbird keeps on putting the mails locally
[16:47] <CardinalFang> lapion, Nope, never seen that.
[16:50] <lapion> check your homedir for file with the same name as folders to which you copy regularly
[16:51] <CardinalFang> Homedir locally?  What would that tell me about what's on the server?
[16:51] <lapion> that would tell you that something is not going according to play
[16:51] <lapion> plan
[16:53] <lapion> of course I have not checked th 3 out yet..
[16:54] <CardinalFang> lapion, I have a tree that matches the IMAP layout, and it has one file per directory tip.  Some extended with ".msf", others not.
[16:55] <CardinalFang> No, all tips have a file with the name of the tip and ${tip}.msf .
[16:57] <CardinalFang> lapion, and each tip is a mail archive.  .msf is some structured data.
[16:58] <CardinalFang> None of this alarms me, though.  All these folders are marked for use offline.
[17:00] <lapion> CardinalFang, yeah I think the problem I used to have is solved..
[17:01] <lapion> CardinalFang, but the problem was truly a pain in the ....
[17:02] <CardinalFang> lapion, the IMAP subsystem is rewritten, I think.  If you only used v2 before, then v3 will be very different.
[17:02] <lapion> CardinalFang, you can say that again..
[17:10] <dobey> lapion: by locally do you mean in "Local:/Inbox/folder" or do you mean in "$HOME/folder" on your filesystem, here?
[17:13] <lapion> yes dobey thunderbird used to put the files in $HOME/foldername-file
[17:13]  * CardinalFang boggles.
[17:14] <dobey> were you dragging to outside the thunderbird window?
[17:14] <lapion> nope
[17:14] <dobey> sounds like you were having a drag and drop problem
[17:15] <lapion> not even when clicking on the mail and selecting from the menu
[17:15] <dobey> maybe there is some (mis)configuration on your system or something, causing it to do that. i've never seen that happen
[17:16] <lapion> for the longest time I took it for granted but when I started working on different systems I stopped moving mails around using thunderbird, and settled for moving them around in webmail
[17:17] <lapion> last time I had that behavior was on ubuntu 8.10 ( don't remember thunderbird version)
[17:19] <dobey> don't know. i just use evolution
[17:19] <dobey> but e-mail makes me sad
[17:19] <lapion> but I ahd the same behavior on several different systems
[17:22] <lapion> even on a mac at the office but that was no problem because I was only using it to expunge a gigbyte of spam
[17:22] <lapion> from a server
[17:31] <runa> heyas :) I use Xmonad, and I would like to know what services do I need to have running for Ubuntu1 to sync my folders
[17:31] <runa> ie, I have ubuntuone-syncdaemon running, but files are not sync from diff computers
[17:54] <runa> um. not sure if I understand this correctly, I do a u1sdtool --list-folders and is empty, but I see folders in the web interfase
[17:54] <runa> interface
[17:55] <rye> runa, what is u1sdtool --status ?
[17:56] <runa> rye: connected, online, no error
[17:56] <rye> runa, queues = ?
[17:56] <runa> IDLE
[17:57] <runa> have to go now, brb. thanks!
[17:57] <rye> runa, it looks like it is working, what ubuntu version are you running ?
[17:57] <rye> 10.04 i believe
[17:58] <rye> runa, if you put a file to Ubuntu One folder does it get synced /
[17:58] <rye> ?
[18:23] <iRcNoAsE> How long does it take to experience a purchased song from the "Ubuntu One Music Store" in their own "Ubuntu One" visible? The receipt mail is from 14:30 CET in Rhythmbox but since the title is to "Queued".
[18:25] <mkarnicki> honk ^ ?
[18:27] <beuno> iRcNoAsE, hi
[18:27] <beuno> has the song downloaded to the web ui?
[18:27] <iRcNoAsE> beuno: no, there is no song in den web ui
[18:28] <beuno> alecu, mattgriffin, ^
[18:29] <alecu> iRcNoAsE, we are currently experiencing some problems with song downloads; can you please tell me the name of the song and album?
[18:31] <iRcNoAsE> alecu: Herbert Grönemeyer - song "Video" - album "Luxus"
[18:32] <alecu> iRcNoAsE, ok, we'll look into it. Sorry for the delay.
[18:32] <iRcNoAsE> alecu: thx
[19:19] <runa> rye: sorry, back. yes, I copied my files to the Ubuntu One dir in one box, and synced from the other. that worked perfect. but then, I modified the files in the 2nd box and changes were not synced to the first box
[19:20] <rye> runa, were these changes synced to the web storage?
[19:20] <runa> rye: letme see
[19:21] <runa> rye: yep
[19:21] <runa> ah
[19:21] <runa> weird
[19:22] <runa> they're synced now
[19:22] <runa> interesting
[19:22] <runa> ok, sorry for all the hassle ;)
[19:25] <rye> runa, you are very welcome
[19:30] <ezra-s> I don't see the syncing progress in my tob bar in gnome any more with ubuntu one.. Is there something I am missing?
[19:40] <ezra-s> honk
[19:41] <nhaines> ezra-s: is this just randomly or is this after an update from Ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 LTS?
[19:41] <beuno> ezra-s, you upgraded to Lucid?
[19:41] <ezra-s> beuno, yes
[19:41] <beuno> right, so it's gone
[19:41] <ezra-s> updated from 9.10 to 10.04
[19:41] <nhaines> ezra-s: this is the expected behavior in 10.04.
[19:42] <ezra-s> it's kind of hard to know how the process is going and how long will it last until it ends...
[19:42] <nhaines> ezra-s: you can use System > Preferences > Ubuntu One to see the current status.
[19:42] <nhaines> But knowing what's left and so forth is more difficult.  Hopefully they fix it in 10.10.  :)
[19:42] <ezra-s> last night I set some folders in my home to synchronize and today the option in the menu was available again, so I had to re-set them to synchronize
[19:43] <ezra-s> it just says sync in progress
[19:43] <ezra-s> I don't want to sound annoying but at least in the earlier version you would see a status icon and a number of files pending for synching
[19:44] <beuno> ezra-s, I completely agree with you
[19:44] <beuno> Chipaca, hai!
[19:44] <beuno> is there any plan to improve this for M?
[19:45] <ezra-s> btw, this command is supposed to list the folders Im syncing? -> u1sdtool --list-folders?
[19:45] <beuno> that is a question for verterok
[19:45] <ezra-s> it is saying "No folders"
[19:45] <ezra-s> and that has me puzzled because Im syncing a few
[19:46] <ezra-s> same here -> u1sdtool --current-transfers 0 uploads and downloads
[19:46] <beuno> and what does -s tell you?
[19:46] <Chipaca> to improve what, sorry?
[19:47] <Chipaca> I've got my head buried in some forms :-/
[19:47] <beuno> Chipaca, ew
[19:47] <rye> facundobatista, magicicada - i remember you were talking about ppa - ?
[19:47] <beuno> Chipaca, the visibility of what's going on with syncing on the desktop
[19:48] <verterok> ezra-s: --list-folders will list the "user defined folders", not the directories inside ~/Ubuntu One
[19:48] <rye> facundobatista, https://launchpad.net/~chicharreros/+archive/ppa - found, thanks!
[19:49] <ezra-s> verterok, you mean those I right-clicked and selected "Sync with UbuntuOne"?
[19:49] <Chipaca> beuno: I'm afraid it's not going to get dramatically better for M, no. It's on the map, but probably for N; for M we're focusing on making it better in the you-don't-have-to-worry-about-it department. Meanwhile I'm recommending magicicada as much as I can.
[19:49] <facundobatista> rye, np
[19:50] <beuno> Chipaca, sounds like I need to spend some time with balsamiq and help out facundobatista and nessita
[19:50] <verterok> ezra-s: I think si
[19:50] <Chipaca> beuno: yes
[19:50] <Chipaca> beuno: :)
[19:50] <rye> ezra-s, https://launchpad.net/~chicharreros/+archive/ppa
[19:50] <ezra-s> verterok, well not in my case then... :P
[19:50] <ezra-s> lots of spanish stuff around I see.. chicharreros, haahah
[19:50] <facundobatista> beuno, "balsamiq"?
[19:51] <Chipaca> facundobatista: ui design thing
[19:51] <verterok> *so
[19:51] <Chipaca> facundobatista: voodoo yuyu
[19:51] <facundobatista> Chipaca, jaja
[19:51] <verterok> ezra-s: mm, what's the status of syncdaemon: u1sdtool -s
[19:55] <ezra-s> verterok, the results -> http://pastebin.org/337661
[19:56] <verterok> ezra-s: syncdaemon is working on metadata stuff, try running: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata and u1sdtool --waiting-content
[19:56] <ezra-s> u1sdtool --waiting-metadata shows a lots of garbled stuff
[19:57] <ezra-s> I just did
[19:57] <ezra-s> waiting-content on the other hand showed nothing
[19:57] <ezra-s> verterok, lots of Unlink(share_id=None, node_id=11a5c9d4-5215-4742-818e-d8c799317d9d, parent_id=9f5396d5-bc3b-44ee-8c81-ea85feb84a6d)
[19:58] <verterok> ezra-s: do you deleted a lot of stuff?
[19:58] <ezra-s> verterok, from the ubuntu one folder yes
[19:59] <verterok> ezra-s: ok, it's deleteing all that stuff
[19:59] <ezra-s> verterok, will it help if I remove it from the ubuntuone site first?
[19:59] <verterok> ezra-s: it will be faster, don't know if it will help :)
[20:00] <ezra-s> verterok, thanks for the help man! ;)
[20:01] <verterok> np
[20:01]  * ezra-s cheers for verterok
[20:02] <mhall119> is http://one.ubuntu.com done in Django?
[20:03] <beuno> yes
[20:03] <nhaines> Ooh, snazzy.
[20:04] <mhall119> just wanted to let you know that I'm doing the Django template for the new website theme
[20:04] <mhall119> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/light-django-theme
[20:04] <mhall119> if there were plans to make one.ubuntu.com use the new look
[20:05] <ezra-s> so that was it
[20:05] <ezra-s> I can confirm it
[20:11] <jdobrien> wgrant, the GET/POST Share name issue has been fixed
[20:16] <rye> facundobatista, why is magicicada in notification area?
[20:19] <facundobatista> rye, it's in the "systray" area... in the future you'll be able to configure if you want it (and how minimize and close will work if you have it)
[20:20] <rye> facundobatista, ... which will not be present in maverick by default...
[20:21] <facundobatista> rye, ok, if you want the icon, you'll have to add the systray to your panel
[20:21] <rye> :)
[20:21] <facundobatista> rye, I know I will
[20:21] <dobey> facundobatista: why isn't it an application indicator instead?
[20:22] <dobey> It Is The Future (TM) you know
[20:24] <facundobatista> dobey, I don't know the dynamics of application indicators
[20:24] <facundobatista> dobey, can you click on it and hide/show the main window?
[20:25] <dobey> ugh
[20:26] <dobey> no. you click on it and get a menu. it's a menu. because it's meant to provide consistency :)
[20:26] <dobey> not arbitrary action
[20:26] <dobey> but you can have a show/hide menuitem in the menu
[20:28] <facundobatista> dobey, I can get a menu with right-click on the icon
[20:28] <facundobatista> dobey, so, I would actually be losing functionality?
[20:29] <dobey> facundobatista: no. because the 'systray' is going away anyway. didn't you pay attention at UDS? :)
[20:31] <facundobatista> dobey, I did pay atention
[20:31] <facundobatista> dobey, but I like systray
[20:31] <facundobatista> dobey, so, the user can add it to the panel, right?
[20:35] <dobey> facundobatista: afaik, gnome 3 won't have a systray, and will have some other thing, and in 11.04, we won't be shipping the tray either.
[20:36] <dobey> using the tray as a means to replace the window manager's functionality is awful. you really shouldn't do it :)
[20:36] <facundobatista> dobey, do you know which other thing will gnome have?
[20:36] <dobey> facundobatista: something like indicators afaik
[21:05] <mkarnicki> what does this python code mean SIZE_FMT = "!I" ? (yea! it's from U1 protocol source, so related :D ! )
[21:23] <iRcNoAsE> alecu: Is there a solution to the problem with the transfer of Herbert Grönemeyer - song "Video" - album "Luxus"?
[21:29] <alecu> iRcNoAsE, we are currently experiencing music download problems because we are updating our server infrastructure. I understand that this updates will be done in a few hours, so your songs will show up on your ubuntuone storage shortly after that.
[21:30] <alecu> iRcNoAsE, sorry again for the delay.
[21:32] <beuno> mkarnicki, ping
[21:32] <iRcNoAsE> alecu: okay, no problem. I can wait ;-) ... Thanks anyway. bye
[21:33] <mkarnicki> beuno: pong
[21:33] <mkarnicki> my pings are low, good
[21:33] <beuno> mkarnicki, hi!  quick question, are you doing oauth authentication on the android client yet?
[21:34] <mkarnicki> beuno: done that, implemented.
[21:34] <mkarnicki> beuno: what's up?
[21:34] <beuno> mkarnicki, I'm thinking of a way to provide a mobile web ui from a native app
[21:34] <mkarnicki> beuno: sorry, I'm being rude. hello ^ ^ !
[21:35] <mkarnicki> beuno: aha. AHA! nice idea =)
[21:35] <beuno> :)
[21:35] <beuno> don't tell anyone
[21:35] <mkarnicki> beuno: but you're thinking of Android?
[21:35] <beuno> I wanted to get an idea of how much I can re-use of what you have
[21:35] <beuno> yes, Android
[21:35] <beuno> probably iphone as well, but lets start with android
[21:36] <mkarnicki> beuno: oh. I think pretty much :) if it's not logged in, it lands on a login-screen (Activity), with a log-in button.
[21:36] <beuno> mkarnicki, great news
[21:36] <mkarnicki> beuno: you press it, browser pops up, authenticate, press "Add this computer", drops back to the app
[21:36] <mkarnicki> beuno: and there you have it
[21:36] <beuno> perfect
[21:36] <mkarnicki> beuno: that's competition to what I'm working my ass off right now xD
[21:36] <mkarnicki> hahaha
[21:36] <beuno> mkarnicki, not at all!
[21:37] <beuno> you're doing the hard part
[21:37] <beuno> the actualy syncing
[21:37] <mkarnicki> beuno: oh. right
[21:37] <beuno> we may work on a basic client that serves as starting point to all the services
[21:37] <mkarnicki> beuno: but that's scheduled for the end of the project, right now it'll be browsing, uploading, etc
[21:37] <beuno> yeah, we may talk in a few months about integrating everything  :)
[21:38] <mkarnicki> beuno: wait wait wait, isn't that what you wanted to talk about?
[21:38] <mkarnicki> beuno: like access to notes, bookmarks, playlist, etc ?
[21:38] <beuno> yes
[21:38] <mkarnicki> beuno: I think I'm missing the point. explain how whould that differ from an app I'm currently doing (let's omit the real sync part right now)
[21:39] <mkarnicki> beuno: I mean, please clarify  :)
[21:39] <mkarnicki> beuno: me and aquarius have tons of ideas for those
[21:39] <beuno> mkarnicki, well, we want to start integrating more things
[21:39] <mkarnicki> beuno: true :)
[21:39] <beuno> like the contact syncing app (funambol)
[21:39] <beuno> and other hand-wavy services
[21:39] <mkarnicki> beuno: true - I will steal that functionality into my app muahahah :>
[21:39] <beuno> heh
[21:40] <mkarnicki> beuno: but I didn't want to make if official ;d I think I just did
[21:40] <beuno> so, in a few weeks, we can get together and talk a bit about how to merge the two ideas and maybe even codebases
[21:40] <mkarnicki> beuno: but that's just for Android devices, right :) ? funambol will be still up and good for JavaME handling devices, like SE, Nokia, etc
[21:40] <beuno> yes
[21:41] <mkarnicki> beuno: but but... ok :3 I know I can't keep everything for myself haha :>
[21:41] <beuno> we will probably develop native apps for iphone/android, and leave the rest of the platforms as-is
[21:41] <mkarnicki> beuno: we'll talk about that, right know I'm fixing
[21:41] <mkarnicki> beuno: a major flaw of Android - bugs in apache harmony, so we need to downgrade to old Java OIO instead of NIO
[21:42] <beuno> yeah, I don't have a super clear idea of where we're going to go yet
[21:42] <beuno> so we may end up doing a mobile version of the web ui's to make this nicer
[21:42] <mkarnicki> beuno: all I know is that I have planned to make AndroidU1 (or whatever it will be called) an entry point to all those services
[21:42] <beuno> cool
[21:43] <beuno> so, I would suggest to focus on file syncing, and we can figure out how to split some of this work in a few weeks
[21:43] <mkarnicki> beuno: Web UI has: info on the account, notes, files, and.. ?
[21:43] <beuno> mkarnicki, contacts, bookmarks
[21:43] <mkarnicki> beuno: right.
[21:43] <mkarnicki> beuno: bookmarks are already in the web UI ?
[21:43] <beuno> phone set-up
[21:43] <beuno> it does on edge  ;)
[21:43] <beuno> edge.one.ubuntu.com
[21:43] <mkarnicki> hehe
[21:44] <mkarnicki> beuno: I see you're as full of ideas as we are, nice to see that
[21:44] <beuno> :)
[21:44] <mkarnicki> beuno: we'll have tons to talk about
[21:44] <beuno> I've been quiet
[21:44] <mkarnicki> beuno: we've been hiding too, to first focus on little things
[21:44] <mkarnicki> beuno: the project is ~1,5 behind the schedule due to that Android bugs (fixed on Froyo 2.2)
[21:45] <mkarnicki> beuno: but I hope to get up and running again no further than end of this week (and hey there, my exams start then =_= )
[21:45] <mkarnicki> beuno: ok, I'll head back to work
[21:45] <beuno> mkarnicki, sounds greatm ttl!
[21:45] <mkarnicki> beuno: there's plenty of time to talk those over :)
[21:45] <mkarnicki> ttl? :_:
[21:45] <beuno> sorry, irc-ism
[21:46] <beuno> talk to you later  :)
[21:46]  * mkarnicki what was that acronym
[21:46] <mkarnicki> ah!! like ttfn :D
[21:46] <mkarnicki> ta ta for now :)
[21:46] <mkarnicki> ok, bye beuno !
[21:46]  * beuno waves
[21:46]  * mkarnicki goes back fixing the protocol