wers | hello everyone :) | 08:07 |
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jdifool | hi there* | 09:31 |
jdifool | I'm trying to build up slackware packages for the whole indicator group | 09:32 |
jdifool | I'm facing two different problems | 09:34 |
jdifool | the main one being the compilation of Nunit which is needed for indicator-application | 09:37 |
jdifool | if someone can point me towards a way to get Nunit to compile on Linux... | 09:37 |
jdifool | thanks in advance | 09:37 |
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seb128 | qense, hi | 15:06 |
qense | hello seb128 | 15:09 |
hyperair | tedg: ping. | 15:54 |
tedg | Howdy hyperair | 16:01 |
hyperair | tedg: howdy. | 16:01 |
hyperair | tedg: so anyway i've been poking aroudn appindicator-sharp, and the issue seems to be that you've incremented the AssemblyVersion to 0.1 | 16:01 |
hyperair | however, you didn't break ABI, and you didn't change the package name, so this is equivalent to a no-ABI-break SONAME bump, but without changing the package name. | 16:02 |
hyperair | i.e. now libraries looking for 0.0 can't find it in the GAC, because it got replaced by 0.1 | 16:03 |
hyperair | er sorry i meant applications | 16:03 |
tedg | hyperair, Oh, I think the issue is that we've got too many c files in the gapi-parser: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-application/mono-bindings-startup | 16:03 |
hyperair | tedg: no, i don't think that's the issue. | 16:03 |
tedg | hyperair, I think the versions were the same, right? I thought we just moved files and names packages correctly there. | 16:04 |
hyperair | tedg: i've run mono-api-check | 16:04 |
hyperair | the versions are different. | 16:04 |
tedg | Hmm, I've rebuilt with that and I get Tomboy working :) | 16:04 |
hyperair | indeed, you should | 16:04 |
tedg | Is it because I rebuilt Tomboy? | 16:04 |
hyperair | yes. | 16:04 |
hyperair | and because you're using upstream sources, i should think | 16:04 |
hyperair | the one in maverick is screwed | 16:04 |
hyperair | because you moved everything back to 0.0 | 16:05 |
hyperair | but didn't move the pkg-config file | 16:05 |
hyperair | i mean the pkg-config file still spits out -r/usr/lib/cli/appindicator-sharp-0.1/... | 16:05 |
tedg | Hmm, shouldn't everything be going to 0.1 ? | 16:05 |
hyperair | tedg: your packaging shoved everything back into 0.0 | 16:06 |
hyperair | which is what's wrong. | 16:06 |
hyperair | tedg: another thing is, since ABI wasn't broken, you should add a policy.appindicator-sharp.config or something | 16:06 |
hyperair | that maps 0.0-0.1 => 0.1 | 16:06 |
hyperair | er policy.2.0.appindicator-sharp.config | 16:07 |
hyperair | it should also be compiled into a dll using al2 -keyfile:somethignorother.snk policyblahblah.config | 16:08 |
hyperair | and gacutil -i'd | 16:08 |
tedg | Hmm, you're loosing me a little bit there. | 16:08 |
tedg | I'm not sure how to map the policy there. | 16:09 |
hyperair | okay, let me go through this, looking only at the upstream situation first. | 16:09 |
hyperair | appindicator-sharp in trunk now has AssemblyVersion=0.1 | 16:09 |
hyperair | however, there is no ABI break between appindicator-sharp 0.0.0.0 and appindicator-sharp 0.1.0.0 | 16:10 |
hyperair | hence, applications which linked against apindicator-sharp 0.0.0.0 should be able to use appindicator-sharp 0.1.0.0 no problem, without recompiling | 16:10 |
tedg | Okay, so how do I tell Mono that? | 16:10 |
hyperair | there is a way to tell mono that when things look for appindicator-sharp 0.0.0.0, use the appindicator-sharp 0.1.0.0 dll, because it'll be fine. | 16:11 |
hyperair | that's using the policy file | 16:11 |
hyperair | i've written one | 16:11 |
hyperair | give me a moment ot pastebin it | 16:11 |
hyperair | http://paste.debian.net/77917/ | 16:12 |
tedg | Okay. Why is it 0.0-@ASSEMBLY_VERSION@ ? | 16:13 |
tedg | Shouldn't it be 0.0.0.0 ? | 16:13 |
tedg | And how do I generate "publicKeyToken" ? | 16:14 |
hyperair | tedg: i got that from your snk file | 16:16 |
hyperair | http://paste.debian.net/77919/ | 16:17 |
hyperair | see | 16:17 |
tedg | hyperair, Oh. I thought that was the example. | 16:17 |
tedg | Should that be generated in the build? | 16:17 |
hyperair | well, you can | 16:18 |
hyperair | it's up to you really, how much to generate | 16:18 |
hyperair | what it *should* end up with currently is... ASSEMBLY_NAME=appindicator-sharp, and ASSEMBLY_VERSION=0.1 | 16:18 |
hyperair | after that, you compile it with al2 | 16:18 |
hyperair | or $(AL) really | 16:18 |
hyperair | al works too | 16:19 |
hyperair | seems it's symlinked | 16:19 |
hyperair | $(AL) -link:policy.$$i.config -out:policy.$$i.$(ASSEMBLY_NAME).dll -keyfile:$(top_srcdir)/mono-addins.snk; | 16:20 |
hyperair | that's how it was done in mono-addins | 16:21 |
tedg | hyperair, Where $$i is appindicator-sharp? | 16:21 |
hyperair | in appindicator-sharp's case, it can be done with $(AL) -link:policy.2.0.appindicator-sharp.config -out:policy.appindicator-sharp.dll -keyfile appindicator-sharp.snk | 16:21 |
hyperair | tedg: ^ | 16:22 |
hyperair | $$i = 2.0, i.e. the .NET version, afaik | 16:23 |
tedg | hyperair, Okay. And where do I put policy.appindicator-sharp.dll ? | 16:23 |
hyperair | tedg: in the same directory as appindicator-sharp.dll | 16:26 |
hyperair | tedg: and gacutil the dll | 16:26 |
hyperair | tedg: once that's all done, there are the downstream changes: libappindicator0.0-cil must be renamed to 0.1 | 16:28 |
tedg | hyperair, Okay. Let me see if I can get this working first :) | 16:29 |
htorque | hello, how can i change the font size in the une panel? after an update it changed to super-small | 16:31 |
kenvandine | tedg, sorry... afk for a few... bbiab | 16:34 |
tedg | kenvandine, np | 16:37 |
tedg | htorque, It should be the same as the application font... but I've not played with UNE much. | 16:37 |
hyperair | tedg: sure. if you've got any further troubles please ask | 16:37 |
tedg | njpatel would be the guy to ask -- but he's not here right now. | 16:37 |
htorque | tedg, thanks! after a unity crash it's back to normal - very strange | 16:38 |
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tedg | hyperair, Could you look at this branch and see if it matches what you were thinking? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-application/mono-version-agreement | 17:06 |
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hyperair | that would be... lp:~ted/indicator-application/mono-version-agreement, right? | 17:10 |
tedg | hyperair, Yup | 17:15 |
* hyperair branches | 17:15 | |
hyperair | tedg: i think you need to use sed instead of just "cp" re: generation of the policy.2.0.appindicator-sharp.config from the .config.in | 17:49 |
hyperair | the @ASSEMBLY_*@ things need replacement | 17:49 |
tedg | hyperair, Ah, okay. | 17:49 |
tedg | hyperair, I wasn't sure if the al tool did that. | 17:49 |
hyperair | hmm what's this gtk-doc that autogen complains about? | 17:50 |
tedg | hyperair, It's used to generate the API documentation. | 17:53 |
tedg | hyperair, Should ASSEMBLY_VERSION be "0.1"? | 17:53 |
hyperair | tedg: yes. | 17:54 |
hyperair | tedg: it should follow whatever's inside AssemblyInfo.cs | 17:55 |
hyperair | tedg: if you ever break ABI, then the "0.0" bit needs to be changed. | 17:55 |
tedg | hyperair, How about we just don't break ABI ;) | 17:55 |
hyperair | tedg: that's ideal, of course ;-) | 17:56 |
tedg | Okay, pushed the sed stuff. | 17:56 |
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schmichael | Hi all, I'm a python web dev looking to make a fairly simple app that displays notifications popups and allows a user to take an action... | 18:06 |
schmichael | ...I was assuming the correct route to go is via appindicator and the existing messaging appindicator, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to hook everything up. | 18:07 |
schmichael | I'm looing at gwibber's source, but that's a bit daunting | 18:07 |
schmichael | hm, reading this now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#API | 18:08 |
tedg | schmichael, Well, it would depend on what you're representing. Would it qualify as a "human-to-human" message? | 18:10 |
tedg | schmichael, That's all that should be in the messaging menu | 18:11 |
schmichael | hm, I suppose not necessarily | 18:11 |
schmichael | more like e-mail | 18:11 |
schmichael | where it's human-or-app to human recipient | 18:11 |
tedg | Well, as long as it's more like Twitter feeds, I think you're probably good. | 18:12 |
tedg | Where they can be both. | 18:12 |
hyperair | tedg: DLLPOLICY = policy.2.0.$(ASSEMBLY) | 18:13 |
hyperair | tedg: and add gacutil calls for the policy dll into (un)install-data-hook | 18:13 |
hyperair | then i think it should be good to go | 18:14 |
tedg | schmichael, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libindicate/trunk/annotate/head:/examples/im-client.py | 18:14 |
schmichael | tedg: interesting. thanks | 18:15 |
schmichael | Just got my app to add menu items based on methods called via dbus, very excited :) | 18:55 |
schmichael | So I'm using appindicator currently for my tray icon. Is pynotify the preferred way to raise notifications from python? | 18:58 |
tedg | schmichael, Ah, cool. You can use the appindicator python library if you want, that might make it easier. It hides the dbus parts. | 19:01 |
tedg | schmichael, Yes, pynotify works. | 19:01 |
tedg | hyperair, I can't figure out how to get it to uninstall :( | 19:01 |
tedg | hyperair, Let me push what I have. | 19:01 |
hyperair | tedg: just copy paste whatever you had? | 19:06 |
tedg | hyperair, Sadly doesn't seem to work. | 19:06 |
tedg | hyperair, It doesn't seem to find the policy files. | 19:06 |
hyperair | hmm weird. | 19:06 |
hyperair | did it even install? | 19:06 |
hyperair | well let me pull and see | 19:06 |
tedg | Yeah, it installs. | 19:06 |
schmichael | tedg: hm, indicator.notify('foo') just gives me an error | 19:07 |
schmichael | Warning: IA__g_object_notify: object class `AppIndicator' has no property named `message' | 19:07 |
schmichael | where 'message' is what I pass to notify | 19:07 |
tedg | schmichael, The AppIndicator library isn't for notifications -- it's for putting icons in the panel. | 19:07 |
tedg | schmichael, And attaching menus for them. | 19:07 |
schmichael | ah, sorry | 19:07 |
schmichael | thought you had said I could use it for notifications too | 19:08 |
schmichael | k | 19:08 |
schmichael | will use pynotify then | 19:08 |
tedg | schmichael, You'll still want pynotify for the notifications. | 19:08 |
schmichael | thanks! | 19:08 |
tedg | np | 19:08 |
hyperair | tedg: er sorry, looks like it was supposed to be policy.$(ASSEMBLY_VERSION).appindicator-sharp.{config,dll} | 20:07 |
tedg | hyperair, Okay, cool. Let me try that. | 20:08 |
hyperair | still doesn't get uninstalled. | 20:11 |
hyperair | hmmmm | 20:11 |
hyperair | tedg: aha. during the uninstall call, you need to give the assembly name, not the dll name. | 20:15 |
hyperair | tedg: DLLPOLICY has .dll stuck on | 20:15 |
tedg | hyperair, Ah, okay. | 20:15 |
tedg | hyperair, Okay, it distchecks now. Can you pull and make sure it looks right? | 20:20 |
hyperair | okay | 20:20 |
hyperair | tedg: i think the policy.*.config file should also be installed to /usr/lib/cli/appindicator-sharp-0.1/ | 20:36 |
hyperair | tedg: Failure adding assembly policy.0.1.appindicator-sharp.dll to the cache: The system cannot find resource policy.0.1.appindicator-sharp.config <-- this will happen when using the debian packaging without the .config file included, because the libraries are added into the GAC during a postinst script. | 20:39 |
hyperair | to get that message, i just deleted the .config file and tried adding the .dll | 20:39 |
tedg | hyperair, Okay, I added that to the TARGET | 20:40 |
* hyperair tests | 20:41 | |
hyperair | okay, it's good = | 20:43 |
hyperair | =) | 20:43 |
tedg | hyperair, Cool. Thanks! | 20:45 |
tedg | hyperair, No what do I need to do to the packaging? | 20:45 |
tedg | Now | 20:45 |
hyperair | rename the libappindicator0.0-cil package to libappindicator0.1-cil | 20:46 |
hyperair | also, change the .install file to not install to a separate location | 20:46 |
hyperair | currently it takes things installed in /usr/lib/cli/blahblah-0.1 and installs it itno /usr/lib/cli/blahblah-0.0 | 20:46 |
tedg | Ah, okay. Yes. | 20:47 |
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hyperair | and then add the policy.whatever.dll to the .installcligac file | 20:47 |
tedg | hyperair, Hmm, I didn't do something right -- Tomboy still can't find it :( | 21:14 |
tedg | The packaging branch I'm using is here: lp:~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-application/ubuntu/ | 21:15 |
tedg | The policy file got into the package and looks correct. | 21:15 |
tedg | I'm not sure what else to check. | 21:15 |
hyperair | did it get into the gac? | 21:16 |
hyperair | gacutil -l | grep appindicator | 21:16 |
tedg | appindicator-sharp, Version=0.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=bcae265d1c7ab4c2 | 21:17 |
tedg | policy.0.1.appindicator-sharp, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=bcae265d1c7ab4c2 | 21:17 |
tedg | Seems like it should be in the gac as "appindictor-sharp", eh | 21:17 |
tedg | ? | 21:17 |
hyperair | tedg: is it not appindicator-sharp already? | 21:25 |
hyperair | tedg: can you give me tomboy's backtrace? | 21:25 |
tedg | hyperair, Well there's two lines. One for appindicator-sharp and one for policy*. It seems they should be appindicator-sharp. | 21:25 |
hyperair | no, it's correct that way. | 21:25 |
hyperair | appindicator-sharp is already appindicator-sharp | 21:26 |
hyperair | the policy one is registered and treated differently -- it provides the mapping from 0.0-0.1 => 0.1 | 21:26 |
tedg | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/451763/ | 21:26 |
hyperair | urgh, how weird. | 21:29 |
hyperair | hmm i just got an idea. | 21:31 |
hyperair | can you try changing these things: oldVersion="0.0.0.0-0.1.0.0" and newVersion="0.1.0.0" | 21:32 |
hyperair | seems that it might need the full version in the policy file after all. | 21:32 |
hyperair | tedg: ^ | 21:40 |
tedg | hyperair, k, just a second | 21:45 |
hyperair | sure | 21:46 |
tedg | hyperair, Hmm, nope, that didn't help. | 21:51 |
hyperair | =\ | 21:51 |
hyperair | did you regenerate the dll? | 21:51 |
tedg | Yeah, I rebuild the package. | 21:53 |
tedg | rebuilt | 21:53 |
hyperair | tedg: aha. the weird version that's stuck onto the policy.${VERSION}.appindicator-sharp.{config,dll} should be for the version of the assembly it's applying to (i.e. in order to map 0.0 => 0.1, it needs to ${VERSION} in this case needs to be 0.0) | 22:39 |
tedg | hyperair, Ah, okay. | 22:40 |
hyperair | sorry for leading you on a wild goose chase =( | 22:41 |
tedg | Let me try it. | 22:41 |
hyperair | it works this time with bce at least. | 22:46 |
hyperair | i mean banshe | 22:46 |
hyperair | Replaces: libappindicator0-cil (<= 0.0.19-0ubuntu4~) | 22:50 |
hyperair | er whoops | 22:51 |
hyperair | wait a sec. | 22:51 |
hyperair | tedg: i think the ~ is unnecessary. | 22:51 |
hyperair | it's generally used for >= relations to include backports of the version, or << to exclude backports of that particular version, but in the case of <=, it'll miss out on 0.0.19-0ubuntu4. | 22:52 |
hyperair | also i think the previous package name was libappindicator0.0-cil | 22:53 |
tedg | hyperair, Hmm, the change to 0.0 didn't seem to help :( | 22:54 |
tedg | I'll fix the version. | 22:54 |
hyperair | http://paste.debian.net/77952/ | 22:54 |
hyperair | tedg: i did that ^^, and renamed the policy.0.1.blah.in | 22:55 |
tedg | hyperair, Hmm, I did the same... | 22:57 |
hyperair | weird. | 22:57 |
hyperair | try purging and trying again? | 22:57 |
hyperair | libappindicator0.1-cil should also Provides: libappindicator0.0-cil | 23:05 |
hyperair | i think. | 23:05 |
tedg | Ah, I was just about to ask that :) | 23:05 |
tedg | I think that might be the issue as I have a libappindicator0.0-cil installed on my system. | 23:06 |
tedg | Anyway, I need to run. I try that later. Thanks for your help hyperair! | 23:06 |
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