[00:01] we know' [00:14] aveilleux, >:( [00:17] i hat ipods lost all my music filles and 600 songs on a ipod 80gig [00:17] Paultag <3 [00:17] goodtime: Are you sure? [00:17] aveilleux, thanks, man I wish I could figure this out [00:17] idk man what happend reay to tell the truth [00:17] not thanks man, thanks. man, I wish... [00:18] goodtime: Are they not appearing on your iPod's library? [00:18] nope there arnt any [00:18] goodtime: Because newer-generation iPods use some weird SQL system to store the songs, even if they're physically on the iPod [00:19] plus the dude left with his ipod missing 6000 songs and some movies and etc etc [00:19] ill see him tommrow and try to rectify the seen [00:35] hi there zkriesse [00:36] I'm terrible at using Away === switchgirl is now known as DarkNemisis [03:47] anyone help me figure out how to set up a dual boot on an existing system [03:48] you want to boot ubuntu and what? [03:48] windows xp that i have an iso of on a cd === switchgirl is now known as darkNemisis [03:49] i like to do the windows install [03:49] and then the ubuntu install [03:49] thats what i consider the 'easy way' [03:49] i have been running ubuntu for a while and love it but need a small partition of windows for my berry [03:49] hmmm [03:49] USB sync? [03:49] how'd i wget without robots? is it just --no-robots [03:49] can you get away with virtual box? [03:49] frank1_: To be honest, installing XP and _then_ Ubuntu is the easiest way arounf [03:49] yea backup [03:49] around* [03:50] ok [03:50] so......i have two drives now, one is just my os and the other is all my media [03:50] frank1_: Also Holstein has a point, why don't you just use VBox? [03:50] i would back up EVERYTHING [03:51] maybe even consider imaging if your really worried about it [03:51] you just need to shrink a partition [03:51] its all on a seperate drive. cant i just pull that drive to be safe and do the windows/ubuntu install on the other [03:51] and claim that space with the XP installer [03:51] thats what i thought [03:51] then you'll have to re-do grub [03:51] ive never had to do it that way [03:51] i have instructions on how to redo grup [03:51] but it should work fine [03:52] grub [03:52] but im not sure how to repartition a mounted drive [03:52] still, vBox is nice with windows [03:52] with the snapshots [03:52] does vbox work with blackberry backup and itunes? [03:52] vbox just hosts an OS [03:53] the only reasons i would ever use windows [03:53] and supports USB passthrough [03:53] frank1_: It works if you install the PUEL version from the Oracle website [03:53] frank1_: ...yes, as holstein mentioned, it supports USB passthrough [03:53] SO if you need a USB port to sync [03:53] your good to go [03:53] XP runs well in there too [03:53] hmm so this sounds to good to be true [03:53] i had it running with 256 of ram [03:53] how hard is it to set up vbox [03:53] virtual ram i should say [03:53] nah [03:54] frank1_: Once you get used to virtualization, it really makes a lot of sense [03:54] its easier than what your trying to do ;) [03:54] frank1_: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads Download the .deb file here [03:54] easier sounds better [03:55] frank1_: Because only the Open Source version is in the repos, and you want the Personal Use and Evaluation License version (because of the USB passthrough support) [03:55] frank1_: VBox is very easy to use. [03:55] ok im lost already [03:56] where? [03:56] OH [03:56] with the 2 versions [03:56] how do i know if im running a 64 bit kernal [03:56] you need the one that supports the USB passthrough [03:56] whatever that is [03:56] hmmm [03:56] frank1_: in Terminal, type uname -m [03:56] x86_64 of amd64 is 64-bit, i686 is 32-bit [03:56] you can do 32bit guests on a 64bit host right? [03:57] holstein: Yes [03:57] holstein: You can do the other way 'round as well, but you have to fully virtualize the CPU and it's slow as heck [03:57] OH [03:57] thats right [03:57] i read that somewhere [03:57] holstein: I think he's looking for which package to install [03:57] uname -m yields i686 [03:58] frank1_: That means you're running 32-bit [03:58] so dl the i686 package next to lucid? [03:58] frank1: Yes [03:59] ok 3.5 min of dl [03:59] so in 4 min ill be totally lost asking for help [03:59] :-D [04:00] frank1_: Don't worry, that's what we're here for -;) [04:00] ... [04:00] ;-) * [04:00] how'd i wget without robots? is it just --no-robots [04:02] darkNemisis: What do you mean, robots? wget downloads individual files [04:02] darkNemesis: Also, man wget [04:02] im not sure i know how to wget with robots [04:03] i need to scan a site for unlocked directories [04:03] or unprotected [04:04] try wget -help [04:04] darkNemesis: I'm not helping you crack into public FTP servers [04:04] that spit out a bunch of options [04:04] OH [04:04] is that whats up ;) [04:04] hehe [04:04] agreed [04:04] holstein: Someone a few days ago was saying they had to use CUDA to crack md5 [04:05] holstein: I was like "...... what?" [04:05] holstein, not doing that [04:05] * zkriesse the bot is here [04:06] * aveilleux wabes to zkreisse [04:06] waves, even [04:06] darkNemesis: Then can you explain why you need to scan for unprotected directories on a system? [04:07] aveilleux: how much ram should i be allocating [04:07] frank1_: How much physical RAM do you have? [04:08] XP is old [04:08] its likes 512 just fine really [04:08] 3gb but its saying i only have 2560mb available [04:08] frank1_: Okay, allocate 512 MB to the guest machine [04:09] ok [04:09] ok now im actually los [04:09] lost [04:10] Select a hard disk image to be used as the boot hard disk of the virtual machine [04:10] frank1_: Create a new hard disk image [04:10] now you get to make a 'fake' hard drive [04:10] yea thats my only choice i just dont know what it means [04:11] on your exisiting filesystem [04:11] theres one [04:11] i think its called 'dynamically expanding' [04:11] frank1_: Now you're creating a fake hard drive. It looks like a single file on your host machine [04:11] i like that one [04:11] yup [04:11] ok [04:11] holstein: There's no reason to use the static imahe [04:11] image* [04:11] aveilleux: i read something about speed [04:12] but i didnt notice really [04:12] holstein: Only very, very slightly. It decreases fragmentation. [04:12] if im doing dynamic why do i need to select the size of the vitual drive in mb [04:13] This size will be reported to the Guest OS as the maximum size of this hard disk. [04:13] make sure you give it enough room for whatever you need to do over ther [04:13] your backups and what-not [04:13] it will 'grow' in ubuntu [04:13] frank1_: Yes, that. You can't have an infinitely large image. Operating systems can't handle that [04:13] BUT the fake XP will think its whatever size you tell it to be there [04:14] oh i was getting the impression that it would just take as much space as it needed [04:14] if it needs more itll just take it [04:14] frank1_: Yes, that's how it works [04:14] frank1_: But you have to report a maximum amount to the gues OS [04:14] so.......how much should i be reporting [04:14] frank1_: Because a computer can't say "you have a disk that's just as big as you need it" [04:15] ahh [04:15] frank1_: VBox should give you a default, if you selected XP on the first screen [04:15] so really it doesent mater how much i repost [04:15] report [04:15] i think its 8gb right? [04:15] frank1_: It does. [04:15] the default [04:15] 10gb [04:15] frank1_: The max is the cap, you can't increase it past that [04:15] not going to hurt to say 20gb or so [04:15] frank1_: No, you don't need that much. Leave it at 10 [04:15] if you got the space [04:16] im just thinking about he itunes management [04:16] holstein: shared directories :3 [04:16] if he wants to store audio files over there at some point [04:16] that would be cool [04:16] sounds like the kind of thing itunes wouldnt like ;) [04:16] but, that was my only agrument for the 20 [04:17] i have the space but the only thing im planning on storeing is my berry backup [04:17] 10'll do it :) [04:18] so ten it is [04:18] now how do i install xp on this fake hd [04:19] frank1_: Open up the settings (gear icon) [04:19] frank1_: under Storage, select the optical drive and choose to open an ISO. Open the XP ISo [04:19] ISO* [04:19] Frank1_: Then just start the VM (virtual machine) and you're good to go [04:20] !portscan [04:20] Factoid 'portscan' not found [04:21] in storage i see no optical drive [04:21] darkNemesis: If you're still on that, you might want to look at Angry IP Scanner [04:21] theres a storage tree [04:21] frank1_: Should be the CD-looking icon [04:21] frank1_: Labled "empty" [04:21] yea empty [04:22] frank1_: Click on it, then in the right sidepane click ont he folder with an up arrow [04:22] frank1_: Then click "add" and find the ISO, then select [04:22] is there a way to restart a Ubuntu installation without loosing everything? I screwed up my audio files and I need to reinstall Ubuntu to fix it. Is there a way to do it without having to repartition? [04:23] JackJelinek: Yes, if you choose manual partitioning you can opt to not format anything. I think. [04:23] okay, i installed this from Win7 will i have to go back to it and do it there? or can I do something on Ubuntu itself? [04:24] looks like its working. got a blue screen running windows setup [04:24] JackJelinek: You used Wubi? I have no idea then, sorry. Not my area of expertise [04:24] no, I installed ubuntu using the iso in Windows 7. do I need to boot over to windows 7 to do this? [04:25] frank1_: Change the storage controller type for the hard drive to ICH6... you'll see it [04:25] uhh crap? [04:25] JackJelinek: that is wubi [04:25] i didnt [04:25] JackJelinek: you're not making any sense. You can't install Ubuntu from Windows without using Wubi. [04:25] and its installing already [04:25] frank1_: Um... problem solved, yay? [04:25] is that a problem [04:25] all i did was mount to Ubuntu .iso with daemon tools and installed it from there. [04:26] frank1_: You mean the XP install blue screen? Not the fatal error bluescreen? [04:26] JackJelinek: That's Wubi. [04:26] aveilleux: yea the install blue screen [04:26] frank1_: Okay, don't scare me like that x3 [04:26] ah okay, so just go back there and reinstall? I tried that before and now on my boot screen I have windows 7 and two Ubuntus but only one works [04:26] aveilleux: am i going to need to go through all this everytime i wanna run xp [04:27] aveilleux: or will i just select xp and hit run [04:27] frank1_: No, it's just like installing Windows on a normal computer. You'll have to unmount the CD once you're done though. [04:27] JackJelinek: That seems like you don't want to do it. [04:28] aveilleux: ok not sure what that means.. when i had to find and select my iso i just found and selected the copy thats on my desktop not the copy on my disk [04:28] all I want is to fix my audio issues. apparently when i installed it it totally skipped the subsystem required to even have sound. thats what someone in here told me [04:28] JackJelinek: Then you don't have to reinstall! just run sudo aptitude install alsa-utils and it'll install what you need. [04:29] frank1_: N-no, you have to unmount the ISO from the virtual machine [04:29] aveilleux: ok well i hope youll be able to help me with that [04:30] okay because yesterday they had me check /dev/mixer and there was nothing there which they said was amazing [04:30] frank1_: After you're done installing Windows (there's two reboots in between), go to Devices > CD/DVD Devices Unmount CD/DVD Device [04:30] JackJelinek: It is, but run that command anyway and see how it goes [04:30] do i need to restart after installing this? [04:30] JackJelinek: no, but you should log out and log back in. [04:30] aveilleux: is that in vbox on in windows [04:31] okay i will be right back then [04:31] frank1_: VBox, look at the top menu bar [04:32] aveilleux: not seeing it [04:32] frank1_: Send me a screenshot? http://imgur.com/ [04:32] yep, I don't have any sound still [04:33] JackJelinek: That was... really fast [04:33] newly built custom computer? [04:33] JackJelinek: I'm more speaking in terms if the package downloads... linux-sound-base is a pretty hefty DL [04:34] oh yeah, it was done before i asked if i should reinstall [04:34] http://imgur.com/NQJ1f.png === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [04:34] no, frank1_, of the running VBox window.... [04:35] is that bad that it went so fast? [04:36] well ok than i see the device menu [04:36] JackJelinek: I think your sound hardware isn't being detected [04:36] !audio |JackJelinek [04:36] JackJelinek: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [04:37] ive been through all those. the guy i talked with yesterday says it can detect it but i dont have the audio subsystem to use it or something like that [04:37] Hardware audio problems is really one of my vague spots [04:37] aveilleux: after i unmount the cd can i delete the iso from my desktop? [04:38] JackJelinek: can you run this in the terminal? [04:38] aplay -l [04:38] you dont have to post it here [04:38] aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... [04:38] hmmm [04:38] frank1_: Well not quite yet. You have to remove it from the media manager. It's in the File menu [04:38] this stumped everyone last night. [04:39] I have a Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio soundcard just fyi [04:39] the sound work under windows? [04:39] yep [04:39] JackJelinek: I don't think the X-Fi series has great support... I could never get mine working [04:40] well, at least its creative [04:40] is it possible to use my onboard then? [04:40] aveilleux: will you be here for a lil while? its got 11 min remaining and i wanna go eat [04:40] frank1_ Probably all night [04:40] i wouldnt cry about replacing a creative sound device [04:40] aveilleux: cool brb [04:40] JackJelinek: I don't think so, without removing the X-Fi [04:40] I'm not even sure if this mobo has onboard actually... [04:41] I don't really have any money right now to be buying a new card... [04:41] you could just get a crap card at the second hand shop [04:41] for a couple bucks [04:42] but there is no way i can get this card to work on this? this card isn't that new is it? i would think someone would figure out how to get it working on linux [04:43] looks like support use to be there [04:43] and sketchy [04:43] i bet its been taken out [04:43] used to * [04:43] thats really annoying hah [04:44] can be [04:44] I think the guy working on it left to do other things [04:45] so i'm SOL then? [04:46] Sadly [04:46] alrighty well i guess its good bye to ubuntu [04:47] thanks guys [04:48] JackJelinek: [04:48] did you try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063987 [04:48] aveilleux: alright i think its done installing [04:48] nope, ill do that and get back to you [04:49] JackJelinek: looks promising [04:49] good luck :) [04:49] when i tried to force-reload alsa i got this: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/jack/.gvfs [04:49] Output information may be incomplete. [04:49] lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/jack/.gvfs [04:49] Output information may be incomplete. [04:49] Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded). [04:49] Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload). [04:49] woah [04:50] !patebin |JackJelinek [04:50] Factoid 'patebin' not found [04:50] erk [04:50] !pastebin |JackJelinek [04:50] JackJelinek: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:50] JackJelinek: yeah, i would try all the steps [04:50] and see if that works still [04:50] yeah, sorry about that [04:50] aveilleux:so is now the time to unmount the cd? [04:51] frank1_: Are you at the Windows desktop? [04:51] aveilleux:yea [04:51] frank1_: Then go ahead [04:51] aveilleux:ok [04:51] aveilleux:anything else i should be doing [04:52] frank1_: Installing the Guest Additions. Devices > Install Guest Additions [04:52] frank1_: This will activate screen resizing, USB support, shared folders, etc [04:53] aveilleux:ok ill let this tick awau [04:54] away [04:54] aveilleux:anything else after i reboot [04:54] yeah, none of that helped. all that comes up is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/451440/ [04:55] you edited /etc/pulse/daemon.conf ? [04:55] yep [04:55] and rebooted? [04:55] or logged out [04:55] ...be right back. [04:56] aveilleux:so it this good to go now? [04:56] frank1_: Basically, yeah [04:57] aveilleux: i can remove the iso from my desktop and not suffer catastrophic failure [04:57] frank1_: Assuming you've removed it from the media manager, yes [04:57] aveilleux:and that is/ [04:58] frank1_: File > Virtual Media Manager [04:59] whats the good news JackJelinek ? [04:59] aveilleux:find the iso and hit remove? [04:59] frank1_: Yes [04:59] nothing :( [04:59] still no audio [05:00] hmmm [05:00] still no soundcard listed [05:01] well, that was my big google-fu effort [05:01] i have google-fu'd for daaaaays [05:01] http://pastebin.com/7unvYwCp [05:01] aveilleux: fail [05:01] this doens really address the fact that its not showing up either [05:01] everything is for a previous version, 10.whatever-is-the-most-recent is supposed to have supposed [05:02] JackJelinek: do you see in in lspci? [05:02] it in* [05:02] frank1_: I'm going to just choose to ignore the piracy <_<;; [05:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/451442/ [05:02] frank1_: Shut down the guest machine, see if that does it [05:02] i was about to say :) [05:03] acpi shutdown [05:03] ??? [05:03] frank1_: Just Start > Shut Down in Windows [05:03] i spent hours today looking for that disk. i know its somewhere i just cant find it. i gave up and took the easy way out [05:04] you could team up on this post JackJelinek [05:04] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491560 [05:04] frank1_: I'm ignoring it. Move on. [05:04] just saying [05:04] I don't even have alsamixer so that guy is ahead of me haha [05:04] you dont? [05:05] JackJelinek: sudo aptitude install alsa-utils should have installed alsamixer [05:05] ok now what [05:05] hmmm [05:05] frank1_: Now try removing the media [05:05] JackJelinek: if that were my box [05:05] this is all i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/451444/ [05:05] i would probably get a hardy live CD [05:05] and some other live CD's [05:05] see if i could learn something that way [05:06] aveilleux:seemed to work [05:06] getting SOME kernel to see it [05:06] and use it [05:06] aveilleux:should i now delete the iso from desktop [05:06] what do you mean? some kernel? [05:06] hmmmm [05:06] you should have alsamixer [05:06] frank1_: If you want [05:06] JackJelinek: just in the spirit of troubleshooting [05:07] JackJelinek: Alsamixer is installed! [05:07] id try an older kernel [05:07] JackJelinek: But since it's not detecting your audio hardware, it can't open the mixer for it [05:07] yep, like i said some guy told me yesterday that im just flat out missing part of the subsystem, is that what that is? [05:07] how do i change kernels? [05:08] JackJelinek: i would just boot live CD's [05:08] to test [05:08] aveilleux: awesome. seems to be working [05:08] might just not happen [05:08] ohhh okay i get you, like previous versions of ubuntu? [05:08] hardy [05:08] ? [05:08] that would be the one i would go to [05:08] ubuntu 8.04 [05:08] !hardy [05:08] Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details. [05:09] alrighty, im gonna go boot up windows to burn these since im not 100% sure how to do that on here. and I miss my music :P [05:10] heh [05:10] e [05:10] thanks guys, if i can do this quick enough i miiiight be back [05:11] JackJelinek: [05:11] not to bombard you with links [05:11] but [05:11] http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1481801 [05:12] these guys say they had success too [05:12] by upgrading alsa [05:12] this is recent activity too [05:12] how do i upgrade alsa? i went onto the alsa wiki and i tried to do it there but i wasnt too sure how to install a .tar.bz2 [05:13] this is what is suggested http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810 [05:14] personally [05:14] i dont like creative enough that i think i would get another card [05:14] but this shouldnt hurt anything [05:14] aveilleux: how do i get vbox to recognize a cd? or is that not an option [05:15] frank1_: One of the options is "Physical Drive: " [05:15] frank1_: Oh, trust me, VBox can do many things :D [05:16]