| smb | morning | 08:15 |
|---|---|---|
| cooloney | smb and cking morning | 08:17 |
| cking | yay | 08:17 |
| smb | Another Friday morning which hopefully turns into a Friday evening soon. :) | 08:19 |
| cking | poor smb | 08:19 |
| * apw yawns ... morning | 08:19 | |
| smb | cking, Oh, there is nothing specific. Just the usual lamment. :) | 08:19 |
| smb | apw, Welcome :) | 08:19 |
| apw | heh yeah, roll on beer-o-clock | 08:20 |
| cking | we need a time machine that's for sure | 08:21 |
| TeTeT | smb: the public bug for the WWAN module in the x201 is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/592046, I've put it in the private bug description | 08:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 592046 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lenovo x201 WWAN module in Lucid kernel (affects: 1) (heat: 732)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 08:24 |
| smb | TeTeT, Ok works for me | 08:25 |
| smb | So I like will look at that next week | 08:25 |
| TeTeT | smb: great :) | 08:25 |
| kraut | moin | 08:58 |
| apw | moin | 09:00 |
| === cking_ is now known as cking | ||
| amitk | apw: know why the omap kernel does not have any information generated from the variables in vars.omap? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.35-4.5 | 11:23 |
| apw | amitk, sorry what information is missing?? | 11:24 |
| amitk | "No description available for linux-image-2.6.35-4-omap in ubuntu maverick" | 11:24 |
| amitk | but if you click on the kernel, it shows the info | 11:24 |
| amitk | (on the link above) | 11:24 |
| apw | amitk, could it just be recent | 11:25 |
| apw | amitk, can you check now, as it seems to have a description on that page for me | 11:27 |
| apw | amitk, oh you are saying on that link it has info, so where you seeing 'no informaiton' ? | 11:29 |
| amitk | apw: yeah, it's there now, was this a recent upload that just get populated into LP? | 11:29 |
| apw | yeah probababally only got though recently | 11:29 |
| amitk | apw: no, there was no info on the link 5 minutes ago | 11:30 |
| apw | i note sparc is still new | 11:30 |
| amitk | I guess that page is not generated atomically | 11:30 |
| apw | or it cannot get the inforamtion till the kernel is published by the publisher run | 11:31 |
| amitk | apw: care to apply this patch which cleans up the description a bit? http://paste.ubuntu.com/451547/ | 11:33 |
| apw | amitk, maverick right? | 11:37 |
| amitk | yeah | 11:38 |
| apw | amitk, sent it out to leann | 12:12 |
| amitk | apw: thanks | 12:24 |
| apw | np | 12:26 |
| tseliot | mjg59: are you around? | 13:36 |
| tgardner | apw, did we ever bottom out on the minim CPU support in the toolchain? | 14:16 |
| tgardner | minimum* | 14:17 |
| apw | tgardner, its on robbie's radar to get the recommendations and write up sorted out | 14:17 |
| apw | i have only heard 'i686' from doko and 'i686 and cmov' from keybuk, neither on official channels. so i'd say its still up in the air for s | 14:18 |
| apw | us | 14:18 |
| tgardner | apw, ok. I was just reading some internal reports about thin clients. | 14:18 |
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| mjg59 | Note that building glibc for i686 will generate i686 and cmov and i686 nopl | 14:20 |
| tgardner | apw, on a diff topic, can you have a look at the maverick ti-omap4 branch to see if I got your commonized debian bits right. There was a bit of confusion over the location of the enforce file. | 14:20 |
| mjg59 | Which kills Geode | 14:20 |
| mjg59 | (even though it has cmov) | 14:20 |
| tgardner | Geode is 586, right? | 14:20 |
| apw | tgardner, the enforce file should be in debian.master as it is series common | 14:20 |
| tgardner | apw, then I have it in the wrong spot. | 14:21 |
| apw | tgardner,i suspect you have two then | 14:21 |
| mjg59 | tgardner: No, Geode LX is 686 | 14:21 |
| tgardner | apw, no, just one. | 14:22 |
| mjg59 | (depending on your precise definition of 686) | 14:22 |
| apw | tgardner, hrm, then i'd expect updateconfigs and any build to fail if its in the wrong place | 14:22 |
| tgardner | mjg59, some of those low enbd CPUs are kinda funky, like VIA | 14:22 |
| tgardner | end* | 14:22 |
| mjg59 | tgardner: Yeah, some of the VIAs lack cmov | 14:22 |
| mjg59 | But the 686 family isn't very well defined | 14:23 |
| apw | tgardner, i think such a move is going to kill off my bastion host, as that via and doesn't seem to have cmov in /proc/cpuinfo | 14:23 |
| mjg59 | cmov is the main reason to go 686 | 14:23 |
| tseliot | mjg59: using my patch (to use ATIF) + acpi_osi="!Windows 2009" = keycode 227, my patch without acpi_osi = keycodes 25 28. This happens without X. Furthermore, If I use the keymap tool, I can see that hotkey events (scan code 0x00 key code: switchvideomode) come from /dev/input/event4 while events from other keys come from event3. | 14:23 |
| mjg59 | But gcc and binutils will potentially generate other 686 instructions as well | 14:24 |
| mjg59 | tseliot: Ok, so that sounds like it works | 14:24 |
| tseliot | mjg59: in X, however, using xev, I still get Return, Return, Super_L | 14:24 |
| mjg59 | tseliot: X may be grabbing something or other | 14:24 |
| tgardner | apw, well, I've uploaded the ti-omap4, so now you should come along behind me and put some whoop-ass on that branch, i.e., recreate the debian bits in your own image. | 14:24 |
| apw | tgardner, heh ok ... will have a look :) | 14:25 |
| tgardner | apw, I don't think its too far off | 14:25 |
| tseliot | mjg59: that's what I thought. Killing the gnome-settings-daemon doesn't seem to help though | 14:26 |
| apw | tgardner, yeah can't tell | 14:26 |
| tseliot | mjg59: furthermore I still can't get an event using "acpi_listen" | 14:26 |
| tseliot | with or without X | 14:27 |
| mjg59 | tseliot: You won't if it's sending windows+p | 14:29 |
| mjg59 | However, if you're seeing switchvideomode come from somewhere other than the normal keyboard device, it's working | 14:30 |
| tseliot | mjg59: yes, I guess that's the device created by the dell wmi module | 14:30 |
| mjg59 | More likely it's the ACPI device | 14:31 |
| smb | apw, tgardner The SRU team noted today that there is a big number of bug reports which have fix-committed for Maverick. From my feeling there should not be really much not being released. But I am usually not looking at Maverick that closely. | 14:33 |
| apw | smb, i would expect there to be some stuff outstanding but not a whole heap | 14:34 |
| JFo | cking, i seem to be unable to join your firmware team | 14:34 |
| apw | do you have a list we can look at, so i can see if there is an issue or just they are outstanding | 14:34 |
| smb | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+subscribedbugs?field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.has_no_package=&field.has_patch=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.searchtext=linux&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&orderby=targetname&search=Sear | 14:34 |
| smb | ch&start=150 | 14:34 |
| smb | Oh how useful | 14:34 |
| smb | Quite a few are sound bugs which probably use committed differently than we do | 14:35 |
| apw | dammit launchpad searching is just stupid | 14:35 |
| smb | Like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux/+bug/567494 for example | 14:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 567494 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Problem sound on Fujitsu Siemens Amilo XI 1526 (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,Fix committed] | 14:36 |
| cking | JFo, lemme subscribe you | 14:36 |
| JFo | thanks cking | 14:36 |
| * JFo gathers bits to test | 14:37 | |
| tgardner | smb, anything thats fix committed for Maverick ought to be fix released | 14:37 |
| apw | smb, i suspect those are getting lost because pitti shoved it over to the kernel package, so dtchen cannot see it anymore and it was he who was tracking it | 14:38 |
| smb | Right, so I probably goe over all of them and change commited to released | 14:38 |
| apw | well we need to check the commits are in | 14:39 |
| apw | like the one there is in so i'll fix released it | 14:39 |
| smb | ok | 14:39 |
| apw | apw@dm$ git merge-base 3353541fe533350a22a03e2fb7dc085b35912575 origin/master | 14:40 |
| apw | 3353541fe533350a22a03e2fb7dc085b35912575 | 14:40 |
| apw | so that one at least is in | 14:40 |
| tgardner | apw, whats the name of the 'misc' blueprint? I need to drop the maverick LBM and ti-omap4 work items in it. | 14:40 |
| apw | kernel-maverick-misc | 14:40 |
| apw | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-maverick-misc | 14:41 |
| apw | tgardner, ^^ | 14:41 |
| tgardner | apw, my feeble memory thanks you | 14:41 |
| apw | tgardner, you can find all of the blueprints for lucid now from the wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel | 14:41 |
| apw | follow 'releases' and there is a link under Lucid thre | 14:41 |
| tgardner | apw, man, you are _way_ too organized | 14:42 |
| apw | tgardner, thats a bit of me and a bit of ogasawara ... there is a reason you let us do things :) | 14:43 |
| cwillu_at_work | ooo, drama on the btrfs mailing list :) | 14:46 |
| JFo | well that was fun | 14:46 |
| JFo | brb | 14:47 |
| tseliot | mjg59: if I press any other hot key (e.g. brightness keys, wlan) I get this in kern.log: "dell-wmi: Unknown key 0 pressed" | 14:48 |
| mjg59 | That seems to be a dell-wmi bug | 14:48 |
| tseliot | ah a separate bug then | 14:49 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 14:49 |
| tseliot | ok | 14:54 |
| smb | apw https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+subscribedbugs?field.searchtext=linux | 14:58 |
| tgardner | cnd, ogasawara, lag, bouncing emerald for new kernel | 15:13 |
| lag | tgardner: oka | 15:14 |
| lag | y | 15:14 |
| lag | tgardner: Can you let me know when it's back please? | 15:15 |
| tgardner | lag, why would I know any sooner then you? | 15:15 |
| lag | tgardner: Oh, it's not with you is it? | 15:16 |
| lag | Are you bouncing right away? | 15:16 |
| tgardner | lag, nope, its in Virgina (or somewhere where I can't hear it) | 15:16 |
| lag | :) | 15:17 |
| tgardner | lag, bouncing tyler.mills as well | 15:17 |
| lag | Rubbish! I'm being shot from all angles! | 15:17 |
| lag | Back | 15:18 |
| lag | ty | 15:18 |
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| JFo | moin bjf | 15:46 |
| bjf | moin | 15:47 |
| tgardner | kees, is procps the right place to dump 'sysctl net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_acct=1' ? CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT is being deprecated. | 15:58 |
| cking | morning bjf - thanks for the 2nd load of logs | 16:05 |
| bjf | cking, welcome, wish it was more | 16:06 |
| apw | smb, ok i've gotten a script together to find these maverick noms which are Fix Committed and yet have BugLink:'s ... | 16:06 |
| cking | bjf, no chance of getting any more then? | 16:06 |
| bjf | cking, working on it, there's more just having "issues" :-) | 16:07 |
| cking | bjf, no sweat, it's not urgent | 16:07 |
| bjf | cking, running into unicode breakage in odd places | 16:07 |
| smb | apw, Very nice. This will give us a lot of bonus points with the SRU team. :) | 16:07 |
| apw | though i don;'t know quite how many its going to close as yet | 16:08 |
| * cking wonders where the day has gone | 16:08 | |
| smb | cking, Towards B o'c :) | 16:08 |
| cking | glug glug | 16:08 |
| apw | bah an hour here | 16:09 |
| smb | apw, Could be a few. I have been looking at least at one page listing | 16:09 |
| apw | smb, i am thinking that this will find like 10, more accurate numbers in a sec | 16:09 |
| smb | cool | 16:10 |
| apw | smb, 15 by the looks of it ... | 16:11 |
| smb | apw, Better than nothing. I guess after we got rid of those, we need to check on the remaining manually | 16:12 |
| apw | i suspect that is a fair chunk | 16:13 |
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| ogasawara | apw: http://people.canonical.com/~ogasawara/mark-fix-commited.py | 17:19 |
| ogasawara | apw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/451674/ | 17:43 |
| ogasawara | apw: not exactly what you want, but it will return the task, nomination, and milestone | 17:43 |
| apw | ogasawara, thanks anyhow, i'll hit it harder till it squeeks | 17:44 |
| kees | tgardner: I need slightly more background. | 18:21 |
| kees | tgardner: (for net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_acct) | 18:22 |
| kees | tgardner: you're saying the CONFIG_ is being dropped, but the sysctl is staying, but the sysctl defaults to the opposite of what we've had? | 18:22 |
| kees | tgardner: why is the CONFIG_ being dropped? it might live in /etc/sysctl.d/10-network-security.conf, but maybe iptables should ship a new /etc/sysctl.d file? | 18:23 |
| tgardner | kees, CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT is getting deprecated in favor of a sysctl to set that behavior at runtime. I'm sending the deprecation patch, but the default behavior should remain the same. | 18:23 |
| kees | tgardner: why is it being deprecated? | 18:23 |
| tgardner | kees, I'm going to send an email to ubuntu-devel about this issue 'cause its sort of a general problem, e.g., setting syctl's provided by a module | 18:24 |
| tgardner | kees, I'm deprecating CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT because it prints some noise in the dmesg log | 18:25 |
| kees | tgardner: it's not being deprecated upstream? | 18:25 |
| tgardner | kees, its been marked for deprecation sinece before 2.6.29 | 18:26 |
| kees | hah | 18:26 |
| tgardner | I'm just doing the patch to finally implement it | 18:26 |
| kees | okay, well, /etc/sysctl.d is the place to ship sysctl settings. procps is responsible for activating them. | 18:26 |
| kees | procps itself ships some system-wide defaults. | 18:27 |
| kees | things like wine, dosemu, kvm-qemu-static-extras, etc ship files in there. | 18:27 |
| apw | smb, i am sure you are off by now, but i have just run that update and closed off a bunch of bugs ... hope that'll make pitti et al happier | 18:27 |
| tgardner | kees, but what happens when the module is not installed until after sysctl does its thing at startup? | 18:27 |
| smb | apw, I am still hanging around. :) And thanks | 18:27 |
| kees | tgardner: ew | 18:28 |
| kees | tgardner: sounds like you need a hook in /etc/modprobe.d instead | 18:29 |
| tgardner | kees, yeah, thats what I'm thinking. | 18:29 |
| kees | tgardner: ship a file that contains: install conntrack-acct /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install conntrack-acct; sysctl net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_acct=1 | 18:31 |
| kees | kind of hacky, but it'll work | 18:31 |
| tgardner | kees, as part of modprobe.d ? | 18:32 |
| kees | tgardner: as a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ yeah. like ship it as /etc/modprobe.d/conntrack-acct.conf or something. probably should present the question and this idea to ubuntu-devel anyway. perhaps I'm on crack. | 18:33 |
| kees | tgardner: you can see examples is the oss .conf file in there now | 18:33 |
| tgardner | kees, in lucid? All I see are blacklists | 18:35 |
| kees | hm. my "alsa-base" package seems to claim it ships /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf | 18:36 |
| kees | examples like: | 18:37 |
| kees | install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; } | 18:37 |
| kees | (oh, I guess it should include $CMDLINE_OPTS | 18:37 |
| kees | ) | 18:37 |
| === kentb_lunch is now known as kentb | ||
| jjohansen | -> Lunch | 20:29 |
| * ogasawara lunch | 21:19 | |
| MTecknology | apw: Keeping busy I see | 21:29 |
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