[01:00] <dinda> meeting time right?
[01:00] <pleia2> yep
[01:01] <jiboumans> o/
[01:01] <easter_egg> yes o/
[01:01] <dinda> woohoo, I got the time/date right this time
[01:01] <rww> \o
[01:01] <IdleOne> o/
[01:01] <dudanogueira> hi there!
[01:01] <IdleOne> dinda: me too :)
[01:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[01:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:01. The chair is pleia2.
[01:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[01:02] <pleia2> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for Thursday, June 17 @ 23:59 UTC.  The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[01:02] <pleia2> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[01:03] <pleia2> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[01:03] <pleia2> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[01:03] <pleia2> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[01:03] <pleia2> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[01:04] <pleia2> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[01:04] <pleia2> [TOPIC] IdleOne Membership
[01:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  IdleOne Membership
[01:05] <pleia2> IdleOne: please introduce yourself and provide a link to your wiki :)
[01:05] <IdleOne> Hello everybody. My name is IdleOne aka John (in the Matrix) you can see my wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/idleone not sure what else I can besides I love ubuntu. I am Ubuntu and try to live Ubuntu.
[01:05] <IdleOne> I can say*
[01:05] <dudanogueira> IdleOne: are you form Montreal?
[01:06] <IdleOne> I am yes
[01:06] <IdleOne> boen and raised
[01:06] <pleia2> IdleOne: can you discuss the main places where you're involved?
[01:06] <IdleOne> born*
[01:06] <dudanogueira> been there on 8.10 release, I think
[01:07] <IdleOne> pleia2: I recently got ops status in #ubuntu and I also do some translation for the Ubuntu Women Project wiki. I admit I have been slacking lately on that :/
[01:07] <IdleOne> I also do testing for +1
[01:07] <IdleOne> bug reporting and such
[01:07] <Pendulum> IdleOne is being a bit modest there he started the translations for the Ubuntu Women wiki
[01:07] <IdleOne> :) thank you Pendulum
[01:07] <Pendulum> and got that part of the project organized
[01:07] <dinda> IdleOne: wiki page is very well done and that pic!  kind of says it all :)
[01:08] <IdleOne> dinda: yeah it is a nice touch huh :)
[01:08] <pleia2> IdleOne: the translation of the code of conduct had sorta fallen off my radar, was there any progress made with that?
[01:09] <IdleOne> pleia2: right now it is in the hands of Canonical and I am not certain at what stage it is. I am hoping to get some more time and get back on the ball with that soon
[01:09] <pleia2> great
[01:09] <IdleOne> Mark did unofficially approve the idea though
[01:09] <dinda> IdleOne: who did it get sent to?
[01:09]  * pleia2 nods
[01:09] <IdleOne> dinda: I sent it to the IRCC
[01:09] <pleia2> er, CC?
[01:09] <IdleOne> yes CC
[01:09] <IdleOne> sorry
[01:10] <pleia2> it was agreed that having it in multiple languages was good, I just wasn't sure where it went from there
[01:10] <dinda> hmm possible it got buried in emails, might want to add it to the next CC meeting agenda??
[01:10] <IdleOne> So yeah I really hope that we can get the CoC translated into as many languages as possible
[01:11] <IdleOne> dinda: I can do that
[01:12] <pleia2> IdleOne: or feel free to reply to the thread you sent a few months back, I really was just asking about status because I was curious :) wasn't sure where the action items left off
[01:12] <dinda> IdleOne: it might help move it forward
[01:12] <IdleOne> pleia2: will do
[01:13] <dudanogueira> IdleOne: looks like you are together with the folks at Ubuntu-QC, right?
[01:13] <IdleOne> pleia2: I think the issue was making sure the translation team could take over the effort and organize the translations
[01:13] <maco2> hi i'm here now. my quassel is syncing right now. will catch backscroll in a minute
[01:13] <IdleOne> dinda: yes, I am
[01:13] <IdleOne> attended a couple of meetings
[01:14] <IdleOne> errr events that is
[01:14] <IdleOne> also elected my self the unofficial welcome wagon in #ubuntu-qc
[01:15] <IdleOne> it's a small channel so whenever I can I try to welcome the new people in the channel
[01:15] <dudanogueira> that's good :) Just saw on my records, I was on the saint sulpice bar for the 8.04 release. were you there?
[01:15] <IdleOne> dudanogueira: at the time I lived in Pennsylvania
[01:15] <IdleOne> so no I was not
[01:15] <pleia2> [VOTE] IdleOne membership
[01:15] <MootBot> Please vote on:  IdleOne membership.
[01:15] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:15] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:15] <pleia2> +1
[01:15] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:16] <dudanogueira> +1
[01:16] <MootBot> +1 received from dudanogueira. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:16] <maco2> +1
[01:16] <MootBot> +1 received from maco2. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:16]  * IdleOne +1's himself :)
[01:17] <dinda> +1
[01:17] <MootBot> +1 received from dinda. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:17] <pleia2> #endvote
[01:17] <pleia2> [endvote]
[01:17] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[01:17] <pleia2> congrats and welcome IdleOne :)
[01:17]  * IdleOne stops sweating :)
[01:17] <dudanogueira> welcome :)
[01:17] <pleia2> ZandreBran: are you here?
[01:17] <IdleOne> Thank you!
[01:17] <ZandreBran> yes
[01:17] <Pendulum> Congrats IdleOne!
[01:17] <pleia2> [TOPIC] ZandreBran membership
[01:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  ZandreBran membership
[01:17] <ZandreBran> Hi Everyone, my name is André Brandão I´m 38 years old, I´m a programmer and have been using ubuntu since 2006; my nick name is the Brazillian community is Zandre Bran (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZandreBran).
[01:18] <ZandreBran> In 2007, I signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and since then I have been helping and supporting the usersin the brazillian discussion list by the ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list. I develoiped a plugin for firefox and on my website you can find a direct search for the list.
[01:18] <ZandreBran> Currently, with the help of Alysson Neto we are reactivating the documentation team of Brazil, and are in the process of distrubuting the work more organised way because the team is formed. This is my second job today:)
[01:18] <ZandreBran> i am also working with Fabiano Fonseca, we are making a remix of ubunto named linuxacessivel.org it is like "VINUX" linuxacessivel.org is for people having dificiency visua, the "ORCA" cofigures from the start of instalation for the Portugese language.
[01:19] <dudanogueira> Ursinha: :)
[01:19] <ZandreBran> This is it, a resume of my work in the Ubuntu brasillian community, any questions?
[01:20] <pleia2> lots of great testimonials :)
[01:20]  * pleia2 likes to see!
[01:20] <Ursinha> I have no questions, but if you allow me I'd like to point the great work ZandreBran does for the Brazilian community
[01:20] <ZandreBran> pleia2, thank toy
[01:20] <ZandreBran> you
[01:21] <dudanogueira> ZandreBran: I took a close look on your mailinglist answers. I really liked it. It's an example of who it should be done.
[01:21] <pleia2> Ursinha: oh certainly
[01:21] <dudanogueira> Precise, polite, with good informations and pointing to the right resources. Congrats :)
[01:21] <Ursinha> what dudanogueira said
[01:21] <Ursinha> I wish we had more of those :)
[01:21] <dudanogueira> Ursinha: just said hi :) Need to talk with you later :)
[01:21] <easter_egg> ZandreBran is a good guy :)
[01:22] <ZandreBran> :)
[01:22] <Ursinha> dudanogueira, sure, ping pvt later :)
[01:22] <dudanogueira> ZandreBran: are you willing to help the ubuntu-br on the "administrative" matters?
[01:22] <maco2> wow yeah your testimonials rock :)
[01:22] <Ursinha> ZandreBran, you won't be forced to, we just need reinforcements :)
[01:23] <ZandreBran> dudanogueira, yes, or not. this is one of my goals when I entered.
[01:23] <dinda> ZandreBran: wow, that sounds like a great project, linuxacessivel.org - great work there
[01:24] <ZandreBran> dinda, thank you
[01:24] <maco2> ZandreBran: are you involved with the ubuntu accessibility team at all?
[01:25] <maco2> ZandreBran: or for that matter... are you aware that its starting back up after a couple years of being in a coma?
[01:26] <ZandreBran> maco2, no not yet the project is very young
[01:26] <Pendulum> ZandreBran: come join us in #ubuntu-accessibility
[01:26] <maco2> ZandreBran: you should join #ubuntu-accessibility and talk to Pendulum. she seems to be running the show as regards getting a11y working decently in ubuntu
[01:26] <maco2> wahh im too slow!
[01:26] <pleia2> [VOTE] ZandreBran membership
[01:26] <MootBot> Please vote on:  ZandreBran membership.
[01:26] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:26] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:27] <pleia2> +1
[01:27] <maco2> +1
[01:27] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:27] <MootBot> +1 received from maco2. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:27] <dinda> +1
[01:27] <MootBot> +1 received from dinda. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:27] <ZandreBran> maco2, thanks for the tip
[01:27] <Pendulum> maco2: no, I was being slow, I meant to say it earlier. (and I am aware of ZandreBran's project, just not of the details)
[01:27] <dudanogueira> +1
[01:27] <MootBot> +1 received from dudanogueira. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:28] <pleia2> [endvote]
[01:28] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[01:28] <pleia2> congrats and welcome dudanogueira! :)
[01:28] <dudanogueira> thank you :)
[01:28] <dudanogueira> hehehe
[01:28] <pleia2> err haha
[01:28] <pleia2> ZandreBran!!
[01:28] <pleia2> congrats :)
[01:28] <Pendulum> ZandreBran: congrats!
[01:28] <IdleOne> Congrats ZandreBran
[01:28] <dudanogueira> ZandreBran: welcome!!!!!! Crontags!
[01:28] <dinda> congratulations ZandreBran!
[01:28] <ZandreBran> thanks all
[01:28] <dudanogueira> ops, Congrats :)
[01:28] <pleia2> ScottL: are you here?
[01:28] <ScottL> pleia2, yes
[01:28] <IdleOne> dudanogueira: Crontags!! I love it!
[01:29] <pleia2> [TOPIC] ScottL Membership
[01:29] <MootBot> New Topic:  ScottL Membership
[01:29] <ScottL> Hi, Scott Lavender here.  My wiki is at:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScottLavender
[01:29] <maco2> ScottL: how did you get the pretty little icons? i'm jealous of your wiki page
[01:29] <ScottL> Mainly I attend to Ubuntu Studio matters and work with Debian Multimedia Team as well
[01:30] <ScottL> maco, in the open source tradition, i used someone else's work of course :)
[01:30] <ScottL> errr maco2 ^^^
[01:30] <IdleOne> ScottK: wow at the wiki
[01:30] <dudanogueira> IdleOne: hehehe, quick typing, little keyboard :)
[01:30] <pleia2> ScottL: always love seeing ubuntu and debian projects working together, thank you for that :)
[01:31] <ScottL> pleia2, thank you, persia has taught me well that we should push bug reports and patches back to Debian
[01:31] <dinda> ScottL: are you a musician? is that why so much work on the Studio project?
[01:31] <pleia2> hooray persia
[01:31] <ScottL> dinda, yes
[01:31] <ScottL> pleia2, i think persia is still on vacation
[01:31]  * pleia2 nods
[01:32] <dinda> ScottL: nice, great project work
[01:32] <maco> ooh JACK MIR? crimsun must love you...
[01:32] <ScottL> thank you dinda
[01:32] <ScottL> lol maco
[01:33] <pleia2> we did an ubuntu studio install at a recent lucid installfest, the woman whose computer had been usin it for quite some time and just having trouble with "weirdness" in 64-bit (ended up being bad ram, we got it sorted :))
[01:33] <pleia2> great little spinoff
[01:34] <pleia2> [VOTE] ScottL membership
[01:34] <MootBot> Please vote on:  ScottL membership.
[01:34] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:34] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:34] <dudanogueira> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from dudanogueira. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:34] <pleia2> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:34] <maco> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from maco. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:34] <dinda> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from dinda. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:34] <pleia2> [endvote]
[01:34] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[01:34] <pleia2> congrats and welcome ScottL! :)
[01:34] <maco> ScottL: thank you for making this so easy with that incredibly thorough wiki page
[01:34] <dudanogueira> welcome aboard!
[01:34] <pleia2> easter_egg: are you here?
[01:34]  * TheMuso sees he is too late, but congratulates ScottL.
[01:34] <ScottL> thank you pleia2 , maco , dudanogueira  :)
[01:35] <maco> TheMuso: hi :)
[01:35] <dudanogueira> ScottL: congrats for your job :)
[01:35] <ScottL> thank you as well TheMuso
[01:35] <IdleOne> Congrats ScottK
[01:35] <easter_egg> yes =]
[01:35] <IdleOne> !!
[01:35] <IdleOne> err ScottL
[01:35] <jiboumans> I think ScottK's been here for a while :)
[01:35] <jiboumans> but congrats ScottL!
[01:35] <Ursinha> haha
[01:35] <maco> jiboumans: they are a perpetual source of confusion. StevenK as well
[01:35] <pleia2> [TOPIC] easter_egg membership
[01:35] <MootBot> New Topic:  easter_egg membership
[01:35] <ScottL> thanks IdleOne , jiboumans
[01:35]  * IdleOne hands easter_egg the bells and whistles :)
[01:35]  * Ursinha cheers for easter_egg 
[01:35] <easter_egg> Good night everyone. Glad to see the concil again.
[01:36] <easter_egg> As you already know me, I will dispense with some details and I'll go straight to the point.
[01:36] <easter_egg> I'm keeping the same job with hackfests, here are some pictures about:
[01:36] <easter_egg> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajqueiroz/sets/72157624156545676/
[01:36] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajqueiroz/sets/72157624156545676/
[01:36] <easter_egg> The next event will happen on this Saturday and it will be open to all Brazillian people, using Lernid. The brazilian teams of documentation, that ZandreBran is member, and translation were invited.
[01:36] <easter_egg> I still verbally helping people to find a short path with bugreport and with their own focus, through hackfests and irc. An example of this would be gbrandao, which has become a machine for making quality documentation.
[01:37] <pleia2> thank you for coming back with pictures and testimonials :)
[01:37] <easter_egg> Whell, questions?
[01:37] <Ursinha> I'm pleased to see the great work people are doing reactivating docs team in Brazil
[01:38] <easter_egg> Someone like that I repeat something that I say in last meeting?
[01:38] <easter_egg> said*
[01:39] <Ursinha> I "met" easter_egg in last FISL here in Brazil, and he's very passionate what he does
[01:39] <Ursinha> that's important to make things work, imo
[01:39] <easter_egg> ahh!
[01:39] <easter_egg> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajqueiroz/4648663494/in/set-72157624156545676/
[01:39] <easter_egg> thats me
[01:39] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajqueiroz/4648663494/in/set-72157624156545676/
[01:39] <pleia2> thanks Ursinha :)
[01:40] <easter_egg> for know
[01:40] <dudanogueira> easter_egg: were you on last year's FISL?
[01:40] <easter_egg> dudanogueira, yes =]
[01:40] <dudanogueira> easter_egg: Oh, did we meet?
[01:41] <Ursinha> dudanogueira, he was hidden :P
[01:41] <easter_egg> hmmm...
[01:41] <easter_egg> I think not
[01:41] <dudanogueira> hehehe, we'll surely have a next opportunity :)
[01:41] <pleia2> [VOTE] easter_egg membership
[01:41] <MootBot> Please vote on:  easter_egg membership.
[01:41] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:41] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:41] <pleia2> +1
[01:41] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:41] <dinda> +1
[01:41] <MootBot> +1 received from dinda. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:41] <easter_egg> Ursinha, my nick is easter_egg
[01:42] <easter_egg> you know now
[01:42] <dudanogueira> +1
[01:42] <Ursinha> easter_egg, I knew before :P
[01:42] <MootBot> +1 received from dudanogueira. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:42] <easter_egg> why
[01:42] <maco> +1
[01:42] <MootBot> +1 received from maco. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:42] <pleia2> [endvote]
[01:42] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[01:42] <pleia2> congrats easter_egg :)
[01:42] <Ursinha> weee
[01:43] <jiboumans> Congratulations easter_egg
[01:43] <dinda> congrats easter_egg!
[01:43] <IdleOne> congrats easter_egg :)
[01:43] <easter_egg> thanks
[01:43] <dudanogueira> One more!! That's good!!! Congrats :)
[01:43]  * Ursinha hugs easter_egg 
[01:43] <easter_egg> o/
[01:43] <pleia2> [TOPIC] jiboumans membership
[01:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  jiboumans membership
[01:43] <jiboumans> Greetings, my name is Jos Boumans and I've been the Ubuntu Server manager now since November last year. As such, I've participated in 2 UDS' and guided the server team through the delivery of 10.04 and now the planning and delivery of 10.10.
[01:43] <easter_egg> thanks everyone
[01:43] <jiboumans> In a previous life I've contributed significantly to the Perl programming language (about 2% of the core code), set up automated packaging of Perl modules for Debian, run the CPAN.org DNS and contributed to such applications as Memcached, Gearman and Varnish.
[01:43] <jiboumans> More Ubuntu information about me at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JosBoumans and https://launchpad.net/~jib and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
[01:44] <IdleOne> jiboumans: Thank you for the awesome work you folks do :)
[01:44] <jiboumans> IdleOne: it's our pleasure, and I mean that :)
[01:44] <IdleOne> jiboumans: server team doesn't get enough praise imo
[01:45] <pleia2> jiboumans: outside the scope of your job within server, is there other involvement within the community, participating with a loco perhaps? :)
[01:45] <jiboumans> IdleOne: we're seeing some strong pickup in the media now and it's great to see the positivity that's coming from outside the community now too
[01:46] <jiboumans> pleia2: I've just moved to San Francisco a few weeks ago
[01:46] <maco> ah so you should be at the geeknic that pleia2 is attending soon?
[01:46] <jiboumans> but I was lucky to be here when 10.04 was released, so i managed to attend the release party at the thirsty bear with Jono
[01:46] <pleia2> jiboumans: great, it's beautiful here :)
[01:46] <pleia2> ah, I was there too
[01:46] <jiboumans> i'm still getting my footing on the west coast, but i'm looking forward to it
[01:46] <pleia2> I'm holding an Ubuntu Hour on Tuesday evening over at The Roastery, about a block from Thirsty Bear
[01:47] <pleia2> please feel free to join us in #ubuntu-california :)
[01:47] <jiboumans> pleia2: is that a recurring thing? I'm down the vally next week unfortunately, but it sounds like great fun!
[01:48] <pleia2> jiboumans: yep, 4th tuesday of the month :)
[01:48] <dinda> jiboumans: I'm trying to determine which of your work with Ubuntu is simply b/c it's your job and what part is b/c you want to contribute to Ubuntu aside from your primary paying job
[01:48]  * jiboumans goes to add to his calendar
[01:48] <jiboumans> dinda: running the server team is of course part of my job. i think the bit outside ubuntu that got me the job is my involvement in Perl/Perl for debian and a lot of the web technologies
[01:48] <jiboumans> you'll see from the Maverick blueprints that we're bringing a lot of those to Ubuntu
[01:50] <dinda> jiboumans: I meant trying to determine if your work in Ubuntu and wanting to be a member are just b/c of your day job
[01:50] <maco> so before moving to SF, were you at all involved with the loco in your old area (if there was one) ?
[01:50] <jiboumans> maco: there was none, I was living in a small town in Poland, believe it or not
[01:51] <dinda> jiboumans: I'm looking for a track record of community and volunteer in addition to your paid work
[01:51] <maco> O_O quite the move
[01:51] <jiboumans> before that, I worked mostly on and in Debian professionally
[01:51] <dinda> jiboumans: did you volunteer with the server team before taking your current role?
[01:52] <jiboumans> dinda: like I mentioned in my application, most of my contributions have been upstream while working on Debian & Ubuntu. I've had less involvement with Ubuntu before then
[01:52] <jiboumans> dinda: mostly for bug fixing on apps on Ubuntu
[01:52] <jiboumans> my previous company had an extensive cloud deployment based on Ubuntu
[01:53] <jiboumans> nowadays, i spend about 12 hours/day working and hacking on ubuntu
[01:53] <pleia2> nice :)
[01:53] <jiboumans> some work related, some because it's fun and interesting :)
[01:53] <dinda> jiboumans: I work for Canonical too but my day job has nothing to do with community, so my volunteer time, like now is separate from that role
[01:54] <dinda> jiboumans: do you hack on any pet projects?
[01:54] <jiboumans> dinda: yup, like i mentioned before, i run the perl to debian autopackaging project for example
[01:56] <jiboumans> other than that, it's contributions to upstream
[01:58] <pleia2> [VOTE] jiboumans membership
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[02:01] <maco> +1 (but go hang out with your new loco!)
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[02:01] <pleia2> jiboumans: yes, looking forward to meeting you! :)
[02:02] <IdleOne> Congrats jiboumans !
[02:02] <jiboumans> pleia2: likewise - i'm at velocity next week if you happen to be there. otherwise, next time!
[02:02] <jiboumans> thanks all
[02:02] <plars> grats jiboumans :)
[02:02] <pleia2> [TOPIC] plars membership
[02:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  plars membership
[02:02] <plars> Hi
[02:02] <plars> I'm Paul Larson.  I'm from Texas.  I've been a long time user of Ubuntu, and started actively contributing sometime around April of 2009.
[02:02] <plars> Mostly in QA related things.  I'm a member of bugcontrol, have participated in 5-a-day when time allows, done a lot of iso testing, improved tests, etc.
[02:03] <plars> In general, I've been using Linux since 1993
[02:03] <plars> I've done a lot of kernel testing in the past, was a maintainer of LTP for a long while, setup a fair number of Linux clusters (including some that have been on the Top500), and even done some IO device driver work on ppc
[02:03] <plars> oh
[02:03] <plars> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulLarson
[02:03] <plars> forgot :)
[02:05] <dudanogueira> sorry people, gotta go! THank you! And congratulations for the new members :)
[02:05] <maco> uh oh
[02:06] <pleia2> no worries, we still have quorum
[02:06] <pleia2> plars: are you involved with the texas loco?
[02:06] <nhandler> Hello
[02:06] <maco> nhandler to the rescue!
[02:06] <plars> pleia2: well, the Texas loco has been starting to be a little more active lately, but as far as I can tell, hasn't been terribly active as a whole group
[02:07] <plars> pleia2: I tried to encourage the ones local to me to start doing more
[02:07] <pleia2> plars: they actually had a few release events, and a booth at texas linux fest :)
[02:07] <plars> pleia2: but so far not a whole lot has come of it... we did have some participation by a few at txlf
[02:07] <plars> right, was just mentioning that :)
[02:07] <maco> pleia2: texas is a big place!
[02:07] <plars> was good to meet thebwt there
[02:07] <nhandler> plars: I didn't see any testimonials on your wiki. Is anyone here to chear for you?
[02:08] <pleia2> thebwt is great, were you at the canonical or loco booth?
[02:08] <plars> nhandler: I didn't actively seek them out, I was unclear on whether that was a real requirement
[02:08] <nhandler> plars: It isn't necessarily a requirement, but it is useful, as it allows us to see what some of the people who have worked with you have to say
[02:08] <plars> pleia2: I hung around both since they were right next to one another and tried to answer questions as I could, but I wasn't actively manning either (I had my 9 yr. old son with me)
[02:08] <plars> gotta start 'em early right? :)
[02:08] <dinda> plars: what part of the state are you in?
[02:09] <pleia2> hooray for kids at linux fests! :)
[02:09] <plars> dinda: Austin area... Round Rock specifically
[02:09] <pleia2> plars: outside the scope of what you would call your "day job" - what portions of the community are you involved in, if any?
[02:10] <plars> hmm, I try to maintain my connections with LTP, occasionally answering some questions or doing patches there
[02:10] <plars> general evangelism.. etc to friends/family
[02:10] <plars> txlf as mentioned earlier
[02:11] <plars> some of the things that I've done, with the excuse of being related to my day job have more personal reasons as well
[02:11] <maco> pl<tab> (one of you!) when are you gonna stop being as confusing as ScottK and ScottL?
[02:11] <plars> for instance, some of the packaging I've done, like with moserial... was mainly to learn packaging because it's an area where I'd like to do more
[02:11] <plars> was not really something I needed to do for my job
[02:12] <plars> but it helped there too, turned out to be something useful for me
[02:12] <plars> also the 5-a-day stuff that I did was not a requirement
[02:12] <pleia2> cool
[02:12] <plars> maco: yeah, I get pings intended for pleia2 late at night a lot :)
[02:12] <IdleOne> hahaha
[02:12] <nhandler> plars: I know you said that you chose not to ask for testimonials, but if you wanted to, do you feel there are people outside of Canonical who you could go to?
[02:13] <plars> nhandler: I hadn't given it much thought actually, but I think there would be some, yes
[02:14] <IdleOne> plars: Seems you are more a behind the scenes contributor, any irc channels we can find you in where you do some support?
[02:15] <plars> on freenode, I mostly hang out in #ubuntu-arm
[02:15] <plars> also #ltp, but not much normally goes on there
[02:15] <plars> and not specifically ubuntu related
[02:17] <dinda> plars: what's your favorite area to contribute in Ubuntu?
[02:17] <plars> dinda: probably testing right now, I've always enjoyed finding problems before they become worse, helping to narrow them down to a solution
[02:17] <nhandler> plars: I notice most of your future plans are QA related. Do you plan to continue bug triage / packaging ?
[02:17] <plars> although I'm trying to expand that, as mentioned earlier
[02:18] <plars> triaging is interesting, but I would much rather learn more about packaging and do some more exploration in that area
[02:18] <plars> sometimes it seems like the archives must have everything, but there are plenty of neat new things every day that we don't have yet :)
[02:22] <dinda> plars: ok, sounds like you've got a good track record of behind the scenes work and good future plans
[02:23] <pleia2> [VOTE] plars membership
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[02:23] <maco> plars: my email archives of bugsquad & bugcontrol mailing lists just made up for your lack of testimonials in my head ;-)
[02:23] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[02:23] <pleia2> congrats and welcome plars :)
[02:23] <IdleOne> Congrats plars!
[02:24] <plars> thanks :)
[02:24] <dinda> congrats plars!
[02:24] <maco> or rather served as testimonials i guess :)
[02:24] <maco> congrats and welcome :)
[02:24]  * maco glares at pleia2 for having already used that phrasing
[02:24] <pleia2> maco: it's a script
[02:24] <pleia2> (just kidding)
[02:24] <nhandler> Congratulations to all of the new members
[02:24] <pleia2> thanks everyone :)
[02:24] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:24] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 20:24.
[02:25] <IdleOne> yay \o/
[02:25] <easter_egg> =]
[02:27] <ZandreBran> :)
[02:28] <pleia2> members will be added to the team soon,and announcement sent out
[02:35] <IdleOne> pleia2:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda has a link to the CC website but it leads to http://www.ubuhntu.com/community/processes/council
[02:38] <pleia2> argh, again, this website restructuring is making me crazy
[02:39] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:39] <IdleOne> btw the page it would/should lead to does not seem to exist
[02:40] <elky> someone can't spell, that's why.
[02:40] <pleia2> elky: even ubuntu.com one doesn't exist anymore, we all now link to /governance
[02:40] <ajmitch> rather amusing misspelling there
[02:41] <elky> ah
[02:41] <pleia2> IdleOne: can you cancel your edit?
[02:41] <pleia2> or make your change :)
[02:41] <IdleOne> just did
[02:41] <IdleOne> sorry
[02:41] <IdleOne> cancel the edit that is
[02:42] <maco> ajmitch: its misspelled like how akgraner pronounces it
[02:42] <elky> meanie.
[02:42] <IdleOne> Nelson Mandela pronounces it ooboontoo, that is good enough for me :)
[02:43] <ajmitch> maco: it seems to be a common thing
[02:45] <elky> aubergine on the other hand...
[02:45] <pleia2> IdleOne: sorted, thanks :) and it really is best to follow up with the existing thread for the CoC translations thing, that way we have all context
[02:45] <maco> ajmitch: yeah the entire ubuntu-uk podcast team seems to pronounce it that way
[02:45] <maco> i go by what IdleOne just said... the mandela video that was on the dapper cd
[02:46] <IdleOne> pleia2: seems I have been removed from ML or google is treating it as spam
[02:46] <IdleOne> not sure
[02:46] <pleia2> IdleOne: can you forward me the error you're getting? the list should be open (I get TOOOOOONS of spam from it)
[02:47] <IdleOne> pleia2: not getting any errors, just not getting any mail from it
[02:47] <pleia2> IdleOne: wait, what list?
[02:47] <IdleOne> CC
[02:47] <pleia2> there hasn't been any discussion on the topic since the last time you were Cced on a message
[02:48] <IdleOne> let me check my archives
[02:48] <pleia2> (and we should take this dicussion elsewhere ;))
[02:48] <IdleOne> indeed
[15:59] <seb128> hey
[16:00] <robbiew> Luuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeet's get ready to ruuumble! (ding ding ding ding)
[16:00] <kirkland> o/
[16:00] <robbiew> #startmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is robbiew.
[16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:00] <ogra> moo+
[16:00]  * kirkland is covering for ttx
[16:00] <robbiew> kirkland: ack
[16:00]  * fader_ is covering for marjo.
[16:00] <robbiew> [LINK] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/Agenda
[16:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/Agenda
[16:01] <robbiew> So looking at the burn-downs
[16:01] <robbiew>    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/FeatureStatus
[16:02] <robbiew> the individual TEAM ones for A2 aren't that bad
[16:02] <robbiew> the ALL alpha 2 gives me nightmares
[16:02] <robbiew> but I suspect it's because the trend line started before we had all work items scoped out
[16:02] <robbiew> and it's also grabbing work items from folks not in any of the teams
[16:03] <robbiew> plus Jono has his A2 chart a little "off"
[16:03] <robbiew> lol
[16:03] <ogra> yeah,. definately something wrong with the trend line, pitti can adjust that
[16:03] <robbiew> yeah...so I'm not too worries
[16:03]  * ogra was about to ask him for arm 
[16:03] <robbiew> worried
[16:03] <robbiew> okay...so let's jump to it
[16:03] <Riddell> hi
[16:03] <robbiew> [TOPIC] QA
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA
[16:03] <robbiew> Riddell: hi
[16:03]  * fader_ waves.
[16:03] <fader_> http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:03] <fader_> Laptops/Netbooks:
[16:03] <fader_>     Passed:   18 (28%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested: 46 (72%)
[16:03] <fader_> Servers:
[16:03] <fader_>     Passed:   48 (79%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested: 13 (21%)
[16:03] <fader_> Desktops:
[16:03] <fader_>     Passed:   8 (73%)    Failed:   0 ( 0%)    Untested: 3 (27%)
[16:03] <fader_> The Broadcom NIC issue on servers we had last week has been fixed.  A few servers are installing but not returning results, which I am looking into now.
[16:03] <fader_> The lack of laptop results is due to a proxy issue in the lab.  cyphermox is working on this and will get it fixed ASAP.
[16:04] <fader_> Alpha 2 Status:
[16:04] <fader_> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:04] <fader_> qa-maverick-automated-server-testing pushed out to alpha-3 due to higher priority UEC testing work items
[16:04] <fader_> all other specs are on track for alpha2 or completed
[16:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:04] <fader_> That's all I've got today, modulo any questions
[16:04] <robbiew> you answered mine (about the low laptop results)
[16:04] <robbiew> questions?
[16:05] <fader_> Yeah, that's environmental... something has broken in the setup in the lab and cyphermox is pulling his hair out trying to get it fixed
[16:05] <robbiew> thanks fader_
[16:05] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Security
[16:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security
[16:05] <robbiew> jdstrand: around?  anything to report
[16:05] <jdstrand> o/
[16:06] <robbiew> beyond the usual...kick ass work on CVEs and such :P
[16:06] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:06] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:06] <jdstrand> While we are still working through updates, our team did get to some dev work this week. Highlights include openssl and libvirt merges along with upstreaming of kees' kernel delta for maverick.
[16:06] <jdstrand> We have no milestoned bugs, and we followed up on our release-targeted bugs and are either waiting on feedback from reporters/upstream or time to fix them.
[16:06] <jdstrand> that's pretty much it
[16:06]  * robbiew is still trying to make use of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/graphs/
[16:07] <robbiew> I'm determined to come up with the perfect chart!!!!
[16:07] <robbiew> lol
[16:07] <jdstrand> hehe
[16:07] <robbiew> any questions for Security?
[16:07] <robbiew> thnks jdstrand
[16:07] <jdstrand> sure, np
[16:07] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Kernel
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel
[16:07] <ogasawara> Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below,
[16:07] <ogasawara> including the item(s) called out in the agenda.  Our burndown chart for
[16:07] <ogasawara> Alpha2 is at the third URL, and our overall burndown chart is at the fourth:
[16:07] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:07] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-2
[16:07] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:07] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:07] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-2
[16:07] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:07] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:07] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:08] <robbiew> ogasawara type SO fast
[16:08] <ogasawara> heh
[16:08] <ogasawara> On the items noted in the agenda, the status is as follows:
[16:08] <ogasawara> * Bug 591707
[16:08] <ogasawara>  - Tim is currently assigned to this bug.  We're still waiting for
[16:08] <ogasawara>    feedback from the bug reporter as to whether the BIOS upgrade that
[16:08] <ogasawara>    was suggested by Intel made any difference.  We'll likely have to
[16:08] <ogasawara>    re-target this to an Alpha3 milestone if we don't hear back soon.
[16:08] <ogasawara> Uhh, that's not the right bug
[16:08] <robbiew> whoops...my fault on the agenda
[16:09] <robbiew> oh wait...that's just weird
[16:09] <ogasawara> wow, something is weird there
[16:09] <robbiew> http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591707
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591707
[16:09] <seb128> yeah, ubottu seems to be buggy for some days
[16:09] <seb128> it's mixing bugs titles sometime
[16:09] <robbiew> nice
[16:09] <ogasawara> ok, I'll move along
[16:10] <ogasawara> * Bug 564559
[16:10] <ogasawara>  - It looks like this was for a Lucid SRU and the Maverick nomination
[16:10] <ogasawara>    was added just a few days ago for some reason.  I've confirmed that
[16:10] <ogasawara>    the Maverick kernel already contains the necessary patch, see comment
[16:10] <ogasawara>    #24, and so have closed the Maverick task as Fix Released.
[16:10] <robbiew> ack
[16:10] <ogasawara> * Bug 591941
[16:10] <ogasawara> nice
[16:10] <ogasawara>  - Mathieu is assigned to this bug.  He's currently working with the TI
[16:10] <ogasawara>    developers and they've narrowed it down to a DMA related issue, see
[16:10] <ogasawara>    comment #1.  It's unknown if a fix will land in time for Alpha2 so
[16:10] <ogasawara>    we've bumped the milestone out to Alpha3 as it does not appear to be
[16:10] <ogasawara>    an Alpha2 release blocker.
[16:11] <robbiew> http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/591941
[16:11] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/591941
[16:11] <ogasawara> As a general status, we have rebased with the upstream 2.6.35-rc3
[16:11] <ogasawara> kernel.  This is available for testing in the latest linux 2.6.35-4.5
[16:11] <ogasawara> maverick upload.  We are also below the burdown chart overall but above
[16:11] <ogasawara> our Alpha2 burdown chart with 46% work items complete.
[16:11] <ogasawara> Questions?
[16:11] <robbiew> \o/
[16:12] <robbiew> thanks ogasawara
[16:12] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Foundations
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations
[16:12] <cjwatson> Colourised work item status: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:12] <cjwatson> We're more or less on the trend line for alpha-2, but rather more by postponement than implementation, so alpha-3 is going to be fairly full.  We're noticeably above our overall trend line.
[16:12] <cjwatson> The three GSoC usb-creator blueprints have been pushed out to alpha-3.
[16:12] <cjwatson> foundations-m-686-compile still needs investigation of the libc regression on Geodes (at least originally due to NOPL instructions being emitted incorrectly), and of course needs a write-up (I've been bugging doko about this).  The core change is done though.
[16:13] <cjwatson> barry is well underway with foundations-m-robust-python-packaging, now that we've AIUI agreed to support 2.6 and 2.7 but to keep 2.6 as the default.  Several work items have been pushed to alpha-3.
[16:13] <cjwatson> (2.6 as the default - "probably", anyway)
[16:13] <barry> yep
[16:14] <cjwatson> foundations-m-uefi-support is almost all done, with the exception of a few work items that really depend on foundations-m-cd-boot (it's all intertwined) and so have been pushed out to alpha-3.
[16:14] <cjwatson> That's just in time for Manoj Iyer to show it off at the UEFI Plugfest next week :-)
[16:15] <cjwatson> also, while it's not on the agenda, foundations-m-btrfs-support is now done to the point of being able to do a manual install with btrfs / and ext[234] /boot (with tomorrow's CD images).  There are a lot of optional work items in that spec, and Surbhi Palande is still working on making btrfs / with no separate /boot possible.
[16:15] <robbiew> cool
[16:15] <cjwatson> I think that's all
[16:15]  * robbiew will try it out on his Dell Mini 9 test box
[16:16] <robbiew> questions for Foundations?
[16:16] <robbiew> thanks cjwatson
[16:16] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Server
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server
[16:16]  * kirkland is covering for ttx
[16:17] <kirkland> Our updated release status is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:17] <kirkland> 6 Alpha2-milestoned bugs there
[16:17] <kirkland> mostly UEC-related
[16:17] <kirkland> Alpha2 Specs at http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:18] <kirkland> Critical/High Specs at < 70% completion
[16:18] <kirkland> server-maverick-uec-testing 20% Blocked by rig availability, not affected by freeze though
[16:18] <kirkland> server-maverick-cloud-init 33% Spec is late, might have to drop less-important features
[16:19] <kirkland> server-maverick-uec-eucalyptus-next 40% Representing Alpha2-milestoned bugs to solve (should move along a bit better now)
[16:19] <kirkland> server-maverick-hypervisor 53% Mostly triage tasks left, not affected by freeze
[16:19] <kirkland> and 3 more at 67%
[16:19] <kirkland> Medium/Low Specs < 50% completion include:
[16:19] <kirkland> server-maverick-cloud-utils 0% Was transfered to new assignee, should still be completed on time
[16:20] <kirkland> server-maverick-uec-provisioning 15% Mostly docs tasks, can be completed during freeze
[16:20] <kirkland> server-maverick-cloud-kernel-upgrades 29% Mostly a few investigation tasks, can be completed during freeze
[16:20] <kirkland> server-maverick-new-stacks 33% Items left about sponsoring new packages to universe
[16:20] <kirkland> there is one bug that we need kernel help on
[16:20] <kirkland> Bug 588861 is certainly a kernel issue. We hope to be able to bisect the version that regressed and have a reproducer script.
[16:21] <kirkland> (description is not correct, ubottu)
[16:21] <ogasawara> kirkland: keep me posted on the bisect outcome
[16:21] <kirkland> ccheney is working on it today, ogasawara
[16:21] <ogasawara> thanks
[16:21] <kirkland> "pad block corrupted" error when trying to register an image with 2.6.34 kernel
[16:21] <kirkland> ^ is the correct description
[16:21] <kirkland> robbiew: questions?
[16:22] <robbiew> nope...everything I had a question about got bumped to a3 :)
[16:22] <kirkland> robbiew: thx
[16:23] <robbiew> kirkland: no...thank you ;)
[16:23] <robbiew> heh
[16:23] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Desktop
[16:23] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop
[16:23] <seb128> hi
[16:23] <seb128> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:23] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:23] <seb128> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:23] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:23] <seb128> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:23] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:23] <seb128>  
[16:23] <seb128> * on track for alpha2: UNE using unity now, dx indicator-appmenu working now and will be added to UNE rsn, we got firefox security updates mostly sorted, new software-center version uploaded to maverick yesterday
[16:23] <seb128>  
[16:23] <seb128> Items listed on the agenda:
[16:24] <seb128> * desktop-maverick-easy-wayland-testing: no items done yet on that spec but it's ppa work and not required for alpha2, can we moved to alpha3 if required
[16:24] <seb128> * desktop-maverick-video-bugs-in-the-kms-world and desktop-maverick-xorg-in-mm: still some items but on track for alpha2
[16:24] <seb128>  * bug 578281 has not been started yet, chrisccoulson has been busy full time on firefox security updates since UDS but the bug should be on track for the point release
[16:24] <seb128>  
[16:24] <seb128> GNOME 2.30.2 coming next week
[16:24] <seb128> we will upload some of the bug fix updates to lucid
[16:25] <seb128>  
[16:25] <seb128> that's it from
[16:25] <seb128> that's it from me (ups)
[16:25] <seb128> kenvandine, dx updates maybe?
[16:25] <ccheney> ogasawara, yea working on it :)
[16:25] <robbiew> [TOPIC] DX
[16:25] <MootBot> New Topic:  DX
[16:26] <seb128> well there was Riddell for kubuntu as well still
[16:26] <davidbarth> hi all
[16:26] <seb128> but we do dx
[16:26] <seb128> davidbarth, hey ;-)
[16:26] <robbiew> ah...sorry
[16:26] <robbiew> Riddel: will get you after DX ;)
[16:26] <Riddell> thanks robbiew
[16:26] <davidbarth> so the weekly report is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:26] <davidbarth>  * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-app-menubar|dx-m-app-menubar]]
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * new release with transient menus support and a nasty lock issue fixed; more apps supported: please keep on testing the new versions
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu for how you can help
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * tight, but on track for A2
[16:27] <davidbarth>  * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-gtk-enhancements|dx-m-gtk-enhancements]]
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * csd not in scope for maverick anymore (more on that later); basically we're reconsidering the integration issues with the rest of the community
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * argb has been taken out as well; we plan to re-introduce it after a2, once more bug fixes can be confirmed; still in scope for Maverick
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * will update the BP work-items to reflect that
[16:27] <davidbarth>  * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-sound-menu-v2|dx-m-sound-menu-v2]]
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * new release with registration + a new set of controls in the menu
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * RB & Amarok enabled to support the new menu features
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * on track for A2
[16:27] <davidbarth>  * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-indicator-me|dx-m-indicator-me]]
[16:27] <davidbarth>   * will be re-targeted for A3
[16:27] <davidbarth> that was for the "desktop" part of DX
[16:27] <davidbarth> UNE was also covered by seb128
[16:28] <davidbarth> unity is well on track for a2
[16:28] <davidbarth> a nice new release this week; test the new menubar, it's cool
[16:28] <davidbarth> ;)
[16:28] <davidbarth> less cool:
[16:28] <davidbarth>  * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-indicator-network|dx-m-indicator-network]]
[16:28] <davidbarth>   * Minor changes released this week
[16:28] <davidbarth>   * Still more backend bugfixes
[16:28] <davidbarth>   * *Not* on track for A2 for the UI part - we'll continue releasing engineering prototype interfaces to exercise the backend
[16:29] <davidbarth> robbiew: and i've updated my blueprints targets only this morning (apologies again) to be assigned to the a2 and up (instead of a1)
[16:29] <robbiew> so all 4 A2 blueprints you just mentioned have A3 work items...so how can they be targeted to A2?
[16:30] <davidbarth> uh?
[16:30] <robbiew> I went through them and retargeted them to a3
[16:30] <robbiew> so for example
[16:30] <robbiew> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-app-menubar
[16:30] <robbiew> Work items for maverick-alpha-2:
[16:30] <robbiew> fix totem argb bug: DONE
[16:30] <robbiew> land argb patch back into gtk: DONE
[16:30] <robbiew> land csd patch back into gtk: DONE
[16:30] <robbiew> add blacklist support: INPROGRESS
[16:30] <robbiew> write test plan for csd-argb: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> Land compiz patches to deal with frozen windows: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> Develop mutter patches: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> Develop metacity patches: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> Review apps to blacklist: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> [bratsche] The triangle in the messaging menu: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> [bratsche] Including the window buttons for csd directly in the theme engine: TODO
[16:30] <robbiew> Work items for maverick-alpha-3:
[16:30] <robbiew> [bratsche] Changing GTK to allow for a rounded stepper: TODO
[16:30] <davidbarth> right, this started for a1; it should read a2, not a3
[16:30] <robbiew> if there are work items for maverick-alpha-3
[16:31] <robbiew> it can't be targeted to alpha 2
[16:31] <davidbarth> generally we can have wi planned from a1 to a3
[16:31] <davidbarth> we're splitting the load between iterations
[16:31] <robbiew> right
[16:31] <robbiew> that's fine
[16:32] <robbiew> but the Milestone Target is for when ALL work items will be complete
[16:32] <seb128> davidbarth, I think the suggestion is that those should be targetted for later not a2 if they will still require work
[16:32] <davidbarth> but so the 4 here should be back on a2, shouldn't they?
[16:32] <davidbarth> ahhh
[16:32] <seb128> davidbarth, ie you can have a2 work items to land things in the ditro
[16:32] <seb128> distro
[16:32] <davidbarth> but will you still list them in your meeting agenda?
[16:32] <seb128> but the specs should be ie for maverick beta
[16:32] <davidbarth> robbiew: ^^
[16:32] <davidbarth> because that was the issue initially, wasn't it?
[16:32] <ogra> items that are for past milestones wont be listed
[16:33] <davidbarth> anyway, we can see that offline; happy to re-target to whatever makes sense for tracking
[16:33] <ogra> only the ones ahead
[16:33] <robbiew> davidbarth: no worries...I've fixed ;)
[16:33] <davidbarth> robbiew: thanks ;)
[16:33] <seb128> well, the issue is that davidbarth wants to get progresses tracked for those and regular updates I guess
[16:33] <davidbarth> other questions?
[16:33] <seb128> and if specs are not targetted for a2 they will not be covered in the agenda
[16:34] <robbiew> seb128: right...but he can certainly report on them if he wants
[16:34] <seb128> agreed
[16:34] <robbiew> anyway...moving on :)
[16:34] <robbiew> thanks davidbarth
[16:34] <davidbarth> that's fine, i'll put them on the report nonetheless; this is what we're focused on, so i can't put them under the rug
[16:34] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Desktop...again
[16:34] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop...again
[16:34] <seb128> davidbarth, seems good to me ;-)
[16:34] <robbiew> Riddell: ?
[16:34] <Riddell>  * Compiles on ARM progressing but still some sticking areas (kdebindings, kdebase-workspace)
[16:34] <Riddell>  * pulseaudio in Kubuntu by default
[16:34] <Riddell>  * knetworkmanager replaced by plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[16:34] <Riddell>  * waiting on MIRs for rekonq, koffice, kdeedu, kdenetwork
[16:34] <Riddell>  * ubuntu one summer of code project making good progress, files all syncing
[16:34] <Riddell>  * {k,}packagekit updated to 0.6
[16:35] <Riddell>  * https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
[16:35] <robbiew> [LINK] http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
[16:35] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
[16:35] <seb128> we have a mir review team issue
[16:35] <seb128> rickspencer3 took an action on that dunno if he did anything about it yet though
[16:36] <Riddell> it needs more members for sure
[16:36] <asac> seb128: thought we solved the current blockage
[16:36] <ogra> or more bribes
[16:36] <seb128> ie, all the mir team members have no time for mir reviews now and things are blocking on review
[16:36] <robbiew> :/
[16:36] <seb128> asac, we solved the unity one, Kubuntu has issues as well
[16:36] <asac> same rules apply there
[16:36]  * robbiew will talk to rickspencer3
[16:36]  * ogra has jasper-initramfs pending for MIR
[16:37] <Riddell> asac: so i should just promote them now?
[16:37] <robbiew> [ACTION] robbiew to talk to rickspencer3 about mir team issue
[16:37] <MootBot> ACTION received:  robbiew to talk to rickspencer3 about mir team issue
[16:37] <asac> Riddell: promote + file beta bugs
[16:37] <Riddell> ok
[16:37] <asac> Riddell: you know the important parts (like libs need ABI tracking etc.)
[16:38] <robbiew> anything else before we move on to ARM?
[16:38] <Riddell> actually that could do with being clarified in the MIR requirements (but that's outside the scope of this meeting)
[16:38] <robbiew> [TOPIC] ARM
[16:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM
[16:38] <robbiew> ogra:?
[16:38]  * ogra waves
[16:38] <ogra> Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:38] <ogra> ...
[16:38] <ogra> Short summary:
[16:38] <ogra> * We're blocked by the non booting or non existing omap 3 and 4 kernels atm
[16:38] <ogra> * jasper (partition resizer) showed some smaller issues with resizing partitions on the fly that need fixing before images can work.
[16:38] <ogra> * FTBFS focus is on gobject-introspection since that breaks the netbook deps
[16:38] <ogra> ...
[16:38] <ogra> A2 status:
[16:38] <ogra> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:38] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-2.html
[16:38] <ogra> (a bit behind here but should be fine by monday, debian-cd merge will happen today, jasper MIR pending)
[16:38] <ogra> ...
[16:39] <ogra> A2 targeted specs:
[16:39] <ogra> still only https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/preinstalled-sd-card-images-for-omap
[16:39] <ogra> ...
[16:39] <ogra> Blocking bugs:
[16:39] <ogra> bug 595947
[16:39] <ogra> bug 589624
[16:39] <ogra> bug 594382
[16:39] <ogra> bug 595949
[16:39] <ogra> ...
[16:39]  * ogra sends congratulations to the US btw :)
[16:39] <ogra> General:
[16:39] <ogra> Team renaming minly done (modulo some cleanup)
[16:39] <ogra> questions ?
[16:39] <robbiew> \o/
[16:40] <robbiew> thanks ogra
[16:40] <robbiew> [TOPIC] MOTU
[16:40] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU
[16:40] <robbiew> nothing on the agenda
[16:40] <robbiew> but always want to be sure ;)
[16:41] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Downstreams
[16:41] <MootBot> New Topic:  Downstreams
[16:41] <robbiew> Linaro has one feature
[16:41] <robbiew> I think asac is covering for them
[16:41] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinaroTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:42] <asac> yeah. we only have one spec for alpha-2
[16:42] <asac> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-tool-chain-selection
[16:42] <robbiew> and looks like it's waiting on doko
[16:42] <asac> which is covered by doko afaiu
[16:42] <asac> we have no real blockers atm, besides ourselves
[16:42] <robbiew> heh
[16:42] <robbiew> okay cool
[16:43] <robbiew> if folks have questions, jump into #linaro ;)
[16:43] <asac> one question: we have the infrastructure team that does most of their work outside the archive
[16:43] <asac> do you want those to be tracked here too?
[16:44] <robbiew> hmm
[16:44] <robbiew> nah
[16:44] <asac> good. makes sense imo
[16:45] <robbiew> :)
[16:45] <robbiew> thnx asac
[16:45] <asac> thanks
[16:45] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Maverick regressions
[16:45] <MootBot> New Topic:  Maverick regressions
[16:45] <robbiew> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.tag=regression-potential
[16:46] <robbiew> nothing critical
[16:46] <robbiew> though the bluetooth one needs some lovin ;)
[16:46] <robbiew> bug 594214
[16:46] <robbiew> and I'm not saying that just because I opened it ;)
[16:46] <asac> haha
[16:46] <seb128> robbiew, I will check on this one
[16:46] <robbiew> seb128: thanks!
[16:47] <robbiew> [TOPIC] 10.04.1 LTS
[16:47] <MootBot> New Topic:  10.04.1 LTS
[16:47] <robbiew> there's one blueprint..which is pretty straightforward
[16:47] <robbiew> no need to discuss
[16:47] <ScottK> Fix for Bug #586497 was just uploaded and is waiting for ubuntu-sru to accept.
[16:48] <robbiew> cool
[16:48] <robbiew> I think I missed bug 525807
[16:49] <robbiew> good move seb128 ;)
[16:49] <robbiew> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:49] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[16:49] <robbiew> any other business?
[16:50] <robbiew> thanks all
[16:50] <robbiew> #endmeeting
[16:50] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:50.
[16:50] <ogra> thanks
[16:50] <robbiew> go USA!!!!!!
[16:50] <robbiew> lol
[16:50] <ogra> ++
[16:51] <seb128> thanks