[00:10] <jono> stas, around?
[00:10] <stas> jono: yep
[00:10] <jono> stas, quick q:
[00:11] <jono> does your theme support layout like the grey boxes on http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop?
[00:11] <stas> i'm still working on romanian translation for wordpress, got overwhelmed a bit so left it behind
[00:11] <jono> no worries
[00:11] <stas> jono: I can add those if you want
[00:11] <jono> that would be sweet
[00:11] <jono> thanks!
[00:11] <stas> cause the slider has them
[00:12] <stas> though the slider has no transitions like those
[00:12] <jono> ahhh
[00:12] <jono> no worries
[00:13] <stas> also update your local branch, I added some more styles, looks like I missed trackbacks stuff, search page and 404 pages
[00:15] <stas> jono: you're doing right, except dont newline after each img
[00:15] <stas> the slider "jumps" the image
[00:17] <jono> cool will do
[00:19] <jono> cool fixes that :)
[00:29] <stas> jono: update the branch, say if its ok, or you need exactly the same slider arrows as on ubuntu.com
[00:30] <stas> also, did you check the video I published?
[00:32] <jono> stas, I think the automatic sliding is quite nice
[00:32] <jono> but to also include the arrows
[00:32] <jono> I think if we can model it on ubuntu.com, that wouildbe awesome
[00:32] <jono> not check the vid yet, just been really hectic working on the site
[00:33] <stas> ok, tell me if added arrows are ok
[00:33] <jono> can you add the same ones from ubuntu.com on the slider?
[00:34] <jono> with the white rounded bitd
[00:34] <jono> bits
[00:34] <stas> yes, am I allowed? :)
[00:34] <stas> I mean copyright and stuff
[00:36] <jono> hmm good questions
[00:36] <jono> leave it for now
[00:36] <jono> we can tweak that later
[00:36] <stas> yep, thats just details
[00:41] <cjohnston> newz2000: yay for clearning bugs!
[00:45] <jono> sorry got disconnected
[00:50] <MTecknology> cjohnston: killing bugs is indeed awesome
[01:01] <jono_> stas, it seems the slider images are not the full widgth and a bit is chopped off
[01:01] <jono_> see http://developer.recreantview.org/
[01:03] <stas> jono_: looking at it, though I it works ok for me localy
[01:03] <jono_> odd
[01:04] <MTecknology> that looks nice
[01:05] <stas> jono_: try setting up a width
[01:05] <jono_> stas, ahhh will do
[01:05] <jono_> stas, also a subpage doesnt show the sub-nav elements - see http://developer.recreantview.org/applicationdevelopers/the-stack/ as an example
[01:06] <jono_> that is a subpage of app developers
[01:06] <stas> does it have chilren?
[01:06] <stas> child pages?
[01:08] <jono_> the subpage doesnt
[01:08] <jono_> so it is:
[01:08] <jono_> app developers
[01:08] <jono_>    thestack
[01:08] <jono_> app developers shows the children
[01:09] <stas> ok, so you want it to show the parents?
[01:09] <jono_> but thestack doesnt show its siblings
[01:09] <cjohnston> jono_: did you see my message in community-team before you pinged out?
[01:09] <jono_> cjohnston, nope
[01:09] <stas> jono_: ok, let me look at it
[01:10] <cjohnston> jono: fwiw take a peek at bug 256615 when you get a moment please.. just as a heads up
[01:10] <jono_> thanks stas
[01:10] <jono_> cjohnston, can I look at it later, I am kind of in the thick of things right now
[01:10] <jono_> is it urgent?
[01:11] <cjohnston> nope.. its reference to the community contribute pages.. I commented that we are working on redoing them.. wasnt sure if you would want to comment to let them know also..
[01:11] <jono_> ahhh cool
[01:11] <jono_> your comment should be fine
[01:11] <cjohnston> :-)
[01:11] <jono_> thanks :)
[01:13] <jono_> stas, setting width doesnt seem to fix the slider issue btw
[01:19] <jono_> stas, quick q - when do you think your ETA on the grey box layout might be?
[01:19] <stas> im working on it now
[01:19] <stas> trying some stuff
[01:20] <stas> why? any deadlines?
[01:21] <cjohnston> stas: sorry I haven't been around to help you with LP merges and such, but it seems like mhall119 is helping out with it...
[01:22] <stas> cjohnston: its ok, its good jono_ has some time for testing the branch
[01:22] <jono_> stas, ahhh cool
[01:22] <cjohnston> cool
[01:22] <jono_> stas, I have general site deadline of next week for this site
[01:22] <jono_> so soon would be awesome
[01:22] <jono_> thanks stas
[01:22] <stas> also newz2000  said he will try it tomorrow/today
[01:24] <mhall119> cjohnston: happy to help out
[01:26] <cjohnston> :-)
[02:00] <stas> jono_: check now pages
[02:00]  * stas took a while to test some different trees
[02:00] <jono_> stas, check what?
[02:00] <stas> bzr pull
[02:01] <jono_> one sec
[02:02] <jono_> stas, hmm not working for me
[02:02] <jono_> as an example go to http://developer.recreantview.org/applicationdevelopers/
[02:02] <jono_> now click The Stack
[02:02] <jono_> it should keep those options in the grey box
[02:02] <jono_> but it changes to app devs
[02:03] <stas> you mean show up the same level pages?
[02:03] <jono_> yeah
[02:03] <stas> one sec
[02:03] <jono_> cheers, I am going to have to run, but will check back later
[02:04] <jono_> thanks stas, sorry I have a meeting now
[02:14] <stas> jono_: when you get back try again
[02:21] <stas> jono_: about the slider, one of the images is > 940px, this overflows the visible content and you aint gonna see that, but slider gets wider, and the arrow gets half hidden. you need or to set the width of the .slider div to a max 940px or to resize the images so they fit
[07:34] <jono_> stas, around?
[14:42] <MTecknology> how is everyone?
[14:45] <knome> MTecknology, re: email list; neither did it have nothing to do with ubuntu websites either.
[14:45] <mhall119> in need of more coffee
[14:48] <MTecknology> knome: it did indeed - check where that thread started
[14:48] <MTecknology> mhall119: sounds tasty - the coffee we get here is terrible
[14:48] <knome> MTecknology, imo the conversation pretty much did not relate to ubuntu websites after the first message
[14:49] <mhall119> MTecknology: I'm currently finishing my home-brew
[14:49] <MTecknology> knome: but that's your opinion
[14:50] <MTecknology> mhall119: I used to bring a thermos to work - i think i might start doing that again - get away from the pop
[14:50] <knome> MTecknology, of course. i'd say file a bug against the issue if you think it's wrong. if not, then let it be.
[14:51] <MTecknology> knome: I think you should reread that thread..
[14:51] <knome> MTecknology, as i said, file a bug or let it be.
[14:52] <MTecknology> knome: I think you're either confused or lost
[14:53] <knome> MTecknology, no, i expressed my opinion, and i'm fine with the fact you might disagree.
[14:53] <MTecknology> knome: is there anything else?
[14:54] <knome> MTecknology, no.
[14:54] <knome> MTecknology, did i say there was?
[14:55] <MTecknology> mhall119: what kind of coffee?
[15:00] <mhall119> MTecknology: Folgers ;)
[15:00] <MTecknology> mhall119: none other tastes better, huh?
[15:00] <mhall119> not at 7:00am
[15:01] <mhall119> since Starbucks disapproves of me showing up in my pajamas for that first cup
[15:01] <MTecknology> startsmucks? :P
[15:01] <MTecknology> s/rt/r/
[15:01] <mhall119> also, pedestrians don't like my pre-coffee driving
[15:03] <MTecknology> i don't like most peoples driving any time of day
[15:03] <MTecknology> it's scary
[15:17] <MTecknology> Drupal doesn't want to let me show the permissions settings page on a site i'm working on....
[15:17] <MTecknology> Something about loading >8,000 checkboxes makes it want to eat up a lot of memory..
[15:20] <MTecknology> stas`: hi
[15:23] <mhall119> drupal needs to quit whining
[15:25] <MTecknology> mhall119: :P I can only imagne what it takes to render 8,300 check boxes when each one is a permission
[15:25] <mhall119> that's a lot of permissions
[15:26] <MTecknology> it is indeed
[15:27] <mhall119> reminds me of Active Directory's ACLs
[15:27] <MTecknology> This is a massive website - The last I checked it was at ~1.5 mil LoC
[15:27] <mhall119> yuck
[15:27] <MTecknology> eh- that brings back nightmares of windows admin
[15:28] <mhall119> I actually got Win2k certifications....
[15:28] <mhall119> which I never used
[15:28] <mhall119> same with my Cisco certs
[15:28] <mhall119> waste of money
[15:28] <MTecknology> I have no certs
[15:28] <mhall119> but I got college credits for passing them
[15:28] <mhall119> so I guess not such a waste
[15:29] <MTecknology> nice
[15:29] <MTecknology> I have 4 classes left - taking 2 now
[15:29] <mhall119> this was back in 2000/2001
[15:29] <mhall119> while I was getting my AS degree
[15:30] <mhall119> and when Microsoft certifications seemed like a good idea
[15:32] <MTecknology> want to help me finish this website?
[15:32] <mhall119> the one with 8000 permissions?
[15:33] <stas`> MTecknology: hey
[15:33] <MTecknology> ya- it'll be fun
[15:33] <stas`> hey guys
[15:33] <stas`> hows going?
[15:33] <MTecknology> it's grand and exciting - you?
[15:33] <stas`> at school got some stuff to solve :/
[15:34] <stas`> !time
[15:34] <ubot4> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[15:34] <mhall119> MTecknology: only if you'll help me figure out this ExtJS stuff
[15:35] <stas`> MTecknology: whats your position about drupal7?
[15:38] <MTecknology> stas`: it's a new version of drupal, it's really shiny, i like that most bugs are going away, it's not yet ready for developing on for most things - pretty broad opinion, it's been a little while since i touched it
[15:38] <MTecknology> no strong feelings about it really
[15:43] <MTecknology> stas`: you play with it any?
[15:49] <stas`> MTecknology: nope, thats why was asking :)
[16:11] <akgraner> stas`, I was speaking with newz2000 and he suggested I pop in here  - I am going to make some notes re the mock-up about what we'd like the fridge to be... and he said you could help with all that as well :-)  so I wanted to just say hi!
[16:11] <akgraner> and let you know per newz2000 suggestion  - I would be adding them to the wiki page
[16:15] <stas`> akgraner: hey and welcome
[16:16] <akgraner> thanks!
[16:17] <stas`> akgraner: fridge wasn't mocked up already in some `Brand` pages on wiki?
[16:17] <mhall119> one of these days I'm going to find a channel that starts with #ubuntu- that neither akgraner nor pleia2 are in
[16:17] <akgraner> it was but it wasn't correct
[16:17] <stas`> i see
[16:17] <stas`> mhall119: :)
[16:18] <mhall119> though I'm sure cjohnston will still be in it
[16:18] <cjohnston> ?
[16:18] <akgraner> we had no input - so I can write it up - or do a drawing of sorts for ya
[16:18] <stas`> akgraner: a gimped pic can be usefull with some comments along
[16:18] <mhall119> cjohnston: just picking on you for your lack of involvement in Ubuntu projects
[16:19] <cjohnston> is there a /j #ubuntu-* command?
[16:19] <cjohnston> maybe someone could write a script for it
[16:19] <akgraner> stas`, then I'll get it to ya then :-)
[16:19] <mhall119> cjohnston: ask pleia2, if there is she's probably using it
[16:19] <cjohnston> right
[16:19] <mhall119> also, she knows everything
[16:19] <cjohnston> i know
[16:20] <daker> mhall119, i am not sure she knows everything :)
[16:20] <stas`> akgraner: here's a screen with latest work use it as a base http://ubuntuone.com/p/7HV/
[16:20] <akgraner> pleia2, is leading the UW site update.... (she rocks but you all know that already)
[16:20] <mhall119> daker: blasphemy!
[16:20] <pleia2> mhall119 :P
[16:23] <akgraner> stas`, okie dokie - I'll use that one and make my notes the other one I saw had way more text one it ... so I'll get cracking on it for ya
[16:23] <akgraner> pleia2, is also my right arm when it comes to all things website related and keeps me from asking for crazy stuff...
[16:24] <stas`> also here are some screens http://stas.nerd.ro/pub/light-base-theme/wp/
[16:24] <akgraner> great
[16:24]  * pleia2 hugs akgraner 
[16:27] <akgraner> stas`, cool - basically we want the Fridge to look like a news site and not a blog :-)
[16:28] <stas`> akgraner: whats behind frige, some cms? planetplanet?
[16:30] <akgraner> stas`, right now it's drupal  - but it will be wordpress
[16:31] <stas`> akgraner: awesome :)
[16:31] <knome> akgraner, wp ftw
[16:33] <akgraner> so gotta get some other work done - just want to do an intro and I'll get back to you with some screenshots and notes :-)
[16:34] <akgraner> (I'm not the developer just the person who is implementing the wordpress vision of the Fridge being the information radiator for the Ubuntu Community News source)
[16:34] <akgraner> ok not implementing
[16:34] <akgraner> translating :-)
[16:34] <mhall119> directing
[16:35] <akgraner> yeah - whatever the right word is for that
[16:35] <mhall119> VP of Strategic Planning
[16:35] <mhall119> Wordpress Implementation Czar
[16:37] <akgraner> You all rock!  I'll get out of your hair now :-)
[16:38] <cjohnston> i dont have much hair for you to be in
[16:55] <stas`> :)
[17:05]  * stas` brb
[18:44] <jono> hey stas
[19:15] <stas> this jono is damn fast :)
[22:48] <jono_> stas around?
[22:49] <knome> jono_, are you playing hide and seek with him?
[22:49] <jono_> haha
[22:49] <jono_> it seems so
[22:49] <knome> ;)
[22:52] <knome> so who's winning?
[22:55] <jono_> it seems he is
[22:55] <jono_> :P
[23:18] <stas> jono_: yep
[23:18] <jono_> stas hey
[23:18] <stas> you ran too fast before
[23:18] <stas> hey :)
[23:18] <jono_> yeah, sorry my connection went down
[23:18] <stas> hows going?
[23:18] <jono_> good thanks
[23:18] <jono_> are you free to discuss the theme?
[23:18] <stas> jono_: yep
[23:18] <jono_> awesome :)
[23:18] <stas> all yours this evening :)
[23:18] <jono_> any more progress on the grey box?
[23:19] <stas> jono_: what rev are you
[23:19] <jono_> let me upgrade to the latest
[23:19] <stas> yep
[23:19] <stas> i did a commit yesterday
[23:19] <jono_> oh cool
[23:20] <jono_> ahhh you fixed the subnav thing
[23:20] <jono_> awesome :)
[23:20] <jono_> nice work!
[23:20] <stas> I didn't test it :)
[23:21] <stas> glad it works now
[23:21] <jono_> works great on http://developer.recreantview.org/
[23:21] <jono_> so did you start on the grey box thing yet?
[23:21] <stas> grey box? wasn't it this thing with submenus?
[23:22] <jono_> oh sorry let me explain
[23:22] <jono_> one sec
[23:22]  * stas reads jono :)
[23:22] <jono_> take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[23:22] <jono_> you see where it says 'Ubuntu for your desktop and laptop'
[23:22] <stas> yeah
[23:23] <jono_> see how it is in a grey box
[23:23] <jono_> I would like to format content on my page like that
[23:23] <jono_> does the theme allow me to do that easily?
[23:23] <stas> only on front page
[23:23] <stas> right
[23:23] <jono_> only on the front page?
[23:24] <stas> you want it only on front page/landing page?
[23:24] <jono_> I think on any page
[23:24] <stas> cause there are a set of widgets
[23:24] <stas> that look like that almost
[23:24] <jono_> ahhh
[23:26] <jono_> looking at the source
[23:26] <stas> just a sec
[23:26] <jono_> it seems they have a bunch of pane-content divs
[23:26] <stas> i'll show you what i mean
[23:26] <stas> there's a widget area
[23:26] <jono_> ok
[23:26] <stas> named above footer
[23:26] <stas> where you can add text widgets
[23:26] <stas> and they will generate columns
[23:26] <jono_> ok one sec
[23:27] <stas> http://ubuntuone.com/p/7Qo/
[23:27] <stas> like this
[23:27] <jono_> right
[23:27] <jono_> but I can't place them on individual pages right - they appear on all pages?
[23:28] <stas> you can add them on individual pages if you add one plugin
[23:28] <stas>  i mentioned it already
[23:28] <stas> widget context
[23:28] <stas> otherway no, only if i hardcode this widget area
[23:28] <jono_> ok let me check
[23:29] <jono_> I was wondering if you could render pages to process the divs the same as ubuntu c.com
[23:29] <jono_> ubuntu.com
[23:30] <jono_> I am not sure if widget context will pass IS, it hasnt been updated since 2009
[23:31] <stas> jono_: i talked with the author this year, a couple of months ago, and he is still maintaining it
[23:31] <jono_> right
[23:31] <jono_> hmmm
[23:31] <stas> its good imho that it wasnt updated, means its stable :)
[23:31] <jono_> ok I will take a look
[23:32] <stas> ill ask the wordpress devs what are their plans about adding something like that into core
[23:33] <jono_> right, but this won't solve my issue for this site
[23:33] <jono_> hmm I think this plugin is gonna be a no go
[23:33] <jono_> out of curiosity, how much work would it be to theme a set of divs
[23:35] <stas> jono_: not much, I can customize a widget area in short time to suit your needs
[23:35] <jono_> stas - this seems to be the divs - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/451808/
[23:35] <stas> but im not sure it will be useful for others
[23:35] <jono_> to make it look like http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[23:35] <jono_> hmmm
[23:36] <stas> yeah, i got it. I can define a special widget area that will look like that if you add text widgets with content into it
[23:36] <stas> but as I said, dunno if it will be useful for others
[23:37] <jono_> but to add the widgets I will still need the plugins
[23:37] <jono_> I am just thinking of what might be the best thing to do here
[23:37] <stas> nope, text widgets are in core, but to add them for individual pages will require a plugin
[23:38] <jono_> thats what I mean
[23:38] <jono_> and the docs and plugin website is horrifically out of date
[23:38] <jono_> http://konstruktors.com/projects/wordpress-plugins/
[23:39] <stas> http://konstruktors.com/projects/wordpress-plugins/widget-context/
[23:39] <stas> the link is on the left
[23:39] <jono_> gonna test now
[23:41] <stas> hmm, theres activity on svn
[23:41] <stas> http://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/log/widget-context/
[23:44] <jono_> ok I installed it
[23:44] <jono_> how do I set it for a specific page?
[23:46] <jono_> ok I think I have it working
[23:46] <stas> you can define it by URIs or by page ids
[23:46] <stas> URIs are cleaner imho
[23:47] <jono_> stas so now I wonder how I divide it up into the title at the top of the box and the columns under
[23:47] <jono_> think I should create a table?
[23:48] <stas> use headings
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[23:49] <stas> content
[23:49] <jono_> I can't though as the widget's title is the sub title in the box
[23:49] <jono_> I need a title for a group of widgets
[23:49] <stas> oh
[23:50] <jono_> also the columns are not wide enough for the widgets
[23:50] <stas> yeah, they were set for 6 columns, you need only 4 wide columns
[23:50] <stas> let me check
[23:51] <jono_> right
[23:52] <jono_> hmmm also the widgets are showing on other pages too
[23:52] <stas> they shouldn't, btw, if there are problems with that plugin I can fork it and include with the theme
[23:54] <jono_> it just doesnt seem to be working here
[23:54]  * stas checking it now
[23:55] <jono_> ideally what I would like to do is to add a <div> with a set of common class names and it be rendered
[23:55] <jono_> then it needs no plugins
[23:55] <jono_> I think the multicolumn gray box is quite common in ubuntu sites
[23:58] <stas> jono_: ok, this is straight, and i can include that easily
[23:58] <stas> the widget context functionality will be discussed during next wp-dev meetup btw
[23:58] <jono_> stas ok awesome
[23:58] <jono_> so you are going to just render a standard set of divs for now?