[00:04] <Ichat> jackTO -  if your that new to apache and all -  you might want to 'look'  for a 'of the shelve '  solution for your webhosting needs,    i.e.   isp-config
[00:04] <Ichat> or webmin/usermin
[00:04] <Ichat> i.e. those will also manager your 'domain  issues for you    like   domains   and sub.domains and all
[00:05] <JackTO> isthere any performance gain of havin files in root vs virtual host, i'm using webmin
[00:06] <Ichat> nope - cuze vhosts  are running on there own child processes....
[00:06] <Ichat> as if they are seperate programms in sort
[00:07] <JackTO> so its cleaner having every site in its own serpearte directory
[00:07] <Ichat> yep
[00:07] <JackTO> cool thanks
[00:07] <Ichat> yw
[00:20]  * ccheney is close to knowing which kernel broke it
[00:36] <ccheney> Daviey, 2.6.33 seems to be the culprit
[00:40] <hggdh> kirkland: stretching out the run-instances lowers the amount of failures
[00:56] <ccheney> Daviey, strike that, i am not sure why i thought 33 failed, it seems to work now, i might have been looking at the wrong kernel
[01:30] <JackTO> hi all, I'm trying to run an php script on my newly consigured 10.04 server running LAMP, but when I try to access the php page from a browser, i get a blank white screen..any idea of what going on?  is there any way to make sure php is running?  is it setup by default?
[01:31] <ccheney> argh!
[01:35] <ccheney> upgrading to current maverick and creating the symlink still leaves it not seeing any NCs for me :-\
[01:35]  * ccheney goes off to find dinner
[01:47] <JackTO> if i messed up apache by deleting the default virtual host, is there an easy way to reinstall apache fresh with the orig files
[02:18] <jmarsden> JackTO: sudo apt-get purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2     # should work fine?
[03:26] <chewbranca> I'm following this guide http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/eucalyptus-beginner%E2%80%99s-guide-%E2%80%93-uec-edition-chapter-4-%E2%80%93-image%C2%A0management/ to build a custom EMI image, I've got the OS installed and I can connect in with vnc through the node, but I can't connect to the instance itself, its sitting on a different subnet and I can't get to it, any ideas on how to connect in?
[03:43] <kaushal> hi
[03:43] <kaushal> is it a good place to discuss about tcpdump ?
[05:56] <Jack-in-Box> anyone know what this ioCube crap does?   my php script apparently won't work unless I install it...   and I did, but it still doesn't run...
[05:56] <Jack-in-Box> ioncube
[05:58] <jmarsden> It's a PHP obfuscator/encoder thing for commercial PHP ... not much use of that in Ubuntu.  Your PHp scriupt, if you wrote it, does not need ioncube.
[05:59] <Jack-in-Box> well, i bought some php software to run a social network site at work, but it has an installer that requires it...  well maybe the whole software requires it i dunno..but the install.php just comes up as a blank page
[05:59] <Jack-in-Box> i tried to install it, and created a test.php that shows its there, but i don't think its working
[05:59] <jmarsden> Jack-in-Box: Then you are stuck unless you can make it work, or find open source social network software to replace it...
[06:00] <Jack-in-Box> is ubuntu compatible with ioncube?
[06:00] <jmarsden> I have no idea.  ioncube does not seem to be in the Ubuntu repositories, so it is not well known/well supported by the Ubuntu community, as far as I can see.
[06:01] <Jack-in-Box> fair enough...
[06:01] <Jack-in-Box> ya hard to find stuff on it....
[06:01] <Jack-in-Box> what is the advantage of a developer using it?
[06:02] <jmarsden> They can prevent others from reading/copying their (closed source) code.  So they can sell it.  As far as I know, that's all.
[06:03] <Jack-in-Box> ahh, that makes sense, the author was very concerned about that...  lol
[06:03] <Jack-in-Box> hate closed source code!!!!
[06:03] <jmarsden> Ubuntu is much more about open source software... look harder for open source tools that will do what you need.
[06:04] <Jack-in-Box> i agree
[06:09] <unewbie> i can't connect to my kvm guest os, the host and guest are hardy server
[07:40] <Error404NotFound> I am about to create a script that will create/delete, enable/disable vhost from a reverse proxy box. This script will be only accessed by my web application residing on another box. What language should i use? and how should app-box access the script?
[07:40] <Error404NotFound> I am very concerned about security, so i can't write in php as i will have to allow system(), and such functions.
[07:49] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: how are you going to create/delete enable/disable the vhost?
[07:49] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, by creating a file in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[07:51] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: I'd create a different dir than sites-available .. just to keep the dynamic stuff seperate.
[07:52] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, ok, and? question is what language to use, how to call this script for my app-box (using a cakephp built app) and how to supply paramters, all over a secure channel.
[07:52] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: you should also have the script running on a different instance of apache on an unknown, different port.
[07:52] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: then you can use PHP if you want... just lock it down so only the reverse proxy can do it.
[07:52] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, should this script be actually available on web?
[07:53] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: I'd say definitely not. ;)
[07:54] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, yes, then why use a different apache? i mean isn't there any other method to call script from another box and supply paramters?
[07:56] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: you can run the different apache as a different user, that way only *that* apache can write to the configs of the public one.
[07:56] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: yes, you could just use ssh. :)
[07:58] <Error404NotFound> I am thinking about running a IP based restricted nginx vhost on 8899 (or random) port to host that script. But again, should it really be in PHP?
[07:59] <Error404NotFound> If i use same PHP with nginx and Apache, the function disallow applied in /etc/php5/php.ini will be applicable to both, right?
[08:02] <Error404NotFound> yes, the one used with nginx will be fastcgi one, so its php.ini will be different, /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini
[08:03] <Error404NotFound> Now question is should be it be in PHP? if i use PHP i would need system() only once to reload apache.
[08:17] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: again, you could just as easily do this w/ ssh
[08:17] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, ssh is not an option :'( I need to look for a php-ssh library
[08:18] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: you have php on your reverse proxy too?
[08:18] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, my app-box is as Cloud Site on Rackspace so i can't modify packages in the operating systems.
[08:19] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, no, but if i write the script in php, i will need to install it.
[08:20] <SpamapS> Error404NotFound: how often are these virtualhosts going to be added?
[08:20] <Error404NotFound> SpamapS, quite often, launching a lot of new service/product every now and then...
[10:48] <madneon> hello, ldap on 10.04 anyone?
[11:01] <madneon> did anyone manage to install openldap on 10.04?
[12:03] <tdn> Can I use Ubuntu server as a sound server, so that I can stream sound from programs like mplayer on the clients and then stream the sound to the server, who will then output the sound via its sound card?
[12:29] <Psi-Jack> I understand that OpenVZ support was removed in Ubuntu but was going to be replaced with LXC. Is this the case with Ubuntu 10.04 that LXC is fully available to run?
[12:40] <jo-erlend_> tasksel just did something quite insane. I run "sudo tasksel remove mail-server" and it installed lots and lots of stuff, including phpmyadmin. Why is that?
[12:40] <jo-erlend_> it _removed_ lots of stuff, I meant.
[12:42] <jo-erlend_> why would it remove seahorse, for instance?
[12:51] <RoyK> jo-erlend_: I guess it removed the stuff depending on mail-server
[13:20] <Error404NotFound> how can i configure apache reverse proxy so that it loads some files from its docroot instead of the proxy box? like robots.txt?
[13:38] <zermann> Hi, i'm installing ubuntu 10.04 server on a western digital hard disk with 4k sectors. I have to manually align partition?
[14:45] <kamaze> sup
[14:45] <kamaze> following: After upgrading to Lucid, the ram usage of my server nearly doubled
[14:45] <kamaze> is there a way to track down the cause?
[14:58] <kamaze> i mean, from 500MiB to 1 GiB within 3,5 GiB avail Ram... it doesn't really matter, but it annoys me
[15:26] <guntbert> kamaze: how did you measure the ram usage?
[15:26] <kamaze> guntbert: monitored it using Munin
[15:27] <kamaze> Already upgraded mid May, since then, 100% increase
[15:27] <kamaze> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3710383/memory-year.png
[15:27] <kamaze> @ guntbert
[15:29] <guntbert> kamaze: I've never used munin, so I cannot tell - but maybe just what it regards as "apps" has changed?
[15:29] <kamaze> Can't belive that
[15:30] <kamaze> because free -m normally says the same
[15:30] <kamaze> +/- buffers
[15:45] <GeorgeJ> Hello, I'm having a problem with my 10.04 ubuntu-server instalation. Theer has been a power outtage recently and my software raid array seems to have faulted. The booting process is now stuck at fsck, it says my root partition is clean, then it stucks. I've tried booting with fastboot, fsck still runs, I also can't seems to be able to enter recovery mode. I think the problem is mountall tries to mount the fault raid array from fstab. How can I bypass 
[15:48] <madneon> GeorgeJ: maybe the raid is syncing in the back...
[15:49] <GeorgeJ> Yes, it most probably is, I could try to fix it, but I can't get into any console :(
[15:49] <madneon> wll I mean, maybe wait a little longer, see whats happends than
[15:52] <GeorgeJ> The system is stuck like this for about 3 hours
[15:52] <GeorgeJ> No progress bar, no nothing, fsck confirms that my root partition is okay, then hangs
[16:09] <Jack-in-Box> hi all...   one of my servers that I just colocated i running very slow - bandwidth wise..  is there any command line util that can do a real bandwidth test, and check the config to make sure everything is in order?
[16:11] <RoyK> Jack-in-Box: an rsync of a file from one site to the other should normally work well
[16:12] <RoyK> there are more advanced ways to do this, with netcat etc, but rsync will probably suffice
[16:12] <Jack-in-Box> mmmmm... wil it tell me the speed per second?
[16:13] <RoyK> Jack-in-Box: that'll be quite easy to figure out if you do something like dd if=/dev/urandom of=somefile bs=1M count=128, transfer the file, and devide 128 megs by n seconds
[16:13] <RoyK> time rsync ....
[16:16] <Jack-in-Box> true...
[16:16] <Jack-in-Box> looking at iperf
[16:22] <Zelest_> not sure if this is the right place to ask.. I've asked in #kvm as well, but seeing it involves libvirtd, I'm not sure where to ask.. but I've been running several kvm instances under Ubuntu and I seem to have horrible performance after I upgraded to 10.04 .. I suspected it was ksmd at first and disabled it without any difference.. any ideas what might cause my huge CPU load?
[16:23] <Zelest_> I used to run 8 virtual machines in 9.10 with close to 0 load avg.. now I have a contant load avg of 1-1.5 while running 6 machines.
[16:27] <RoyK> Zelest_: I think #ubuntu-virt is the politically correct place to ask
[16:27] <Zelest_> Aah
[16:28] <ScottK> Asking here is fine, but the odds of finding an actual answer may be higher in #ubuntu-virt
[17:28] <ne7work> hello all, how can i install only gnome not ubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu 9.04 server?
[17:30] <remix_tj> ne7work: install the gnome packages
[17:30] <remix_tj> maybe the only gnome packet has all the needed dependencies
[17:31] <ne7work> and what I need to install sudo apt-get install what?
[17:31] <remix_tj> sudo aptitude install gnome
[17:31] <ne7work> only gnome?
[17:34] <ne7work> remix_tj,
[17:34] <ne7work> here?
[17:34] <remix_tj> yes
[17:35] <ne7work> not gnome-desktop-enviorment?
[17:35] <remix_tj> !info gnome
[17:35] <remix_tj> i think this is the correct package
[17:35] <remix_tj> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[17:36] <ne7work> what is the different
[17:36] <remix_tj> ne7work: nothing, it's the same pkg
[17:36] <ne7work> gnome is with extra components?
[17:37] <remix_tj> yes, that's the difference :-)
[17:44] <ne7work> and what is extra components?
[18:11] <Chriz> Hi
[18:12] <Chriz> how can I force remove flashplugin-installer? http://pastebin.com/MQNJyZga
[18:30] <ruben23> hi guys any application i can used to deploy a network install a linux destop  with same image and haradware specs like around 100 PC
[18:30] <ruben23> this is ubntu-desktop
[18:43] <Chriz> Can I make a raid without using the boot cd?
[18:44] <madneon> yes
[18:44] <madneon> look at mdadm
[18:54] <jeremyn> any suggestions on what to use to host my own openid server on ubuntu? i've read the most about phpmyid but it's not in the repos. the only Canonical-supported package for "openid" is python-openid, which looks more like a library than an application.
[18:55] <jeremyn> though, python-openid does apparently come with a standalone server as an example
[19:01] <larsemil> ruben23: i would make an image and just dd it to the drives. works most of the times. alternate would be some kind of PXE
[19:09] <ruben23> larsemil:what are the tools i can used for imaging..?
[19:10] <larsemil> ruben23: dd
[19:16] <ruben23> larsemil: any guide or how to, do do it with dd.
[19:54] <Psi-Jack> Curious. Anyone know how I could mount a specific partition that's stored within an LVM volume? This is a KVM LVM disk image and I'm trying to mount a specific partition that's within the volume itself.
[19:55] <guntbert> Psi-Jack: what is a "partition within a LVM volume"?
[19:55] <Psi-Jack> guntbert: Exactly that.
[19:55] <Psi-Jack> A partition table that's in an LVM Logical Volume
[19:56] <guntbert> Psi-Jack: I don't partition my LVM volumes - thats why I asked?
[19:56] <Psi-Jack> guntbert: Like I said, this is a KVM disk volume, so the installation of a Linux inside the VM did the partitioning itself.
[19:57] <cjohnston> was there no meeting this past week?
[19:57] <guntbert> Psi-Jack: sorry, I don't get it - but I obviously cannot help - so just ignore me :-)
[19:58] <cjohnston> Daviey: ping
[20:02] <Daviey> cjohnston: \o
[20:02] <cjohnston> was there a meeting this week?
[20:03] <Daviey> cjohnston: yes, i thought you were there :S
[20:03] <cjohnston> nope.. wasnt there..
[20:03] <cjohnston> trying to find the logs for UWN.. but i dont see them
[20:03] <Daviey> cjohnston: I'm middway through prepairing the meeting logs
[20:03] <cjohnston> the other cj may have been there..
[20:04] <cjohnston> ok.. cool thanks
[20:04] <Daviey> ah, yes - sorry
[20:04] <resno> i just installed vmware and the management site isnt showing up. when i read the source, it mentions issues with my browser not reading xml
[20:04] <Daviey> cjohnston: What is the deadline for UWN?
[20:04] <cjohnston> normally posted sunday afternoon est.. we are checking the links right now and it wasnt working.. :-)
[20:05] <Daviey> cjohnston: I'll have the meeting logs published within 2 hours of now, is thta ok?
[20:05] <cjohnston> awesomeness
[20:05] <cjohnston> thanks alot
[20:05] <Daviey> cjohnston: np
[20:05] <cjohnston> :-)
[20:06] <Daviey> cjohnston: You could include my "awesomeness" in UWN if you chose to :P
[20:06] <cjohnston> headline, Daviey is full of awesomeness
[20:06] <cjohnston> lol
[20:06] <Daviey> \o/ :)
[20:09] <resno> should i got to vmware server chat for help?
[20:09] <ruben23> hi guys anyidea whats the difference betwwen OPenVZ with KVM..
[20:20] <bogeyd6> resno, depends, i am very versed in vmware server
[20:21] <resno> i recently installed vmware server on my ubuntu server. when i try to access the site at *:8222, it directs to *.8333/ui/ then stops. and nothing furher happens.
[20:21] <resno> i have already added the exeception for the self signed certificate
[20:23] <resno> bogeyd6: ^
[20:23] <bogeyd6> oh
[20:23] <bogeyd6> its a bug in vmware server
[20:24] <bogeyd6> you simply need to clear the firefox cache or use IE
[20:24] <bogeyd6> resno ^
[20:24] <resno> bogeyd6: tried ie, no such luck
[20:24] <bogeyd6> you get the error loading page in the bottom?
[20:24] <bogeyd6> clear the IE cache
[20:24] <bogeyd6> files and cookies
[20:25] <bogeyd6> i promise it will work
[20:25] <bogeyd6> UNLESS  you failed in building any of the vmware modules
[20:25] <resno> ok, let me try it
[20:25]  * resno looks for option in IE
[20:28] <bogeyd6> tools -> delete browsing history
[20:28] <bogeyd6> or tools -> options, on general tab
[20:29] <resno> ok, trying it now
[20:29] <bogeyd6> close the browser when its done clearing
[20:29] <bogeyd6> then try again
[20:31] <resno> ok, im waiting for it now
[20:38] <resno> bogeyd6: is chrominum any better? ie has ben "connecting" forever
[20:39] <resno> i finally got a logo in ff, but thats about it
[20:39] <resno> logo=favicon
[20:42] <resno> bogeyd6: three browsers later. i got a login screen :)
[20:42] <bogeyd6> resno, awesome
[20:42] <bogeyd6> you should have been using vmware server 1
[20:42] <bogeyd6> vmware server 2 sucks because the ie addon or firefox plugin makes the browser crash
[20:43] <resno> i followd the tutorial from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[20:44] <resno> heh, looks ill have to keep the windows machine around after all :)
[21:07] <resno> thanks bogeyd6
[22:02] <BiggFREE> Hi
[22:03] <malchias> I am attempting to setup SSL.   I've modified the default-ssl vhost container with <Virtualhost :433>, ports.conf with Listen 443, and done a force-reload and restart but apache2ctl -S only shows :80.   Oh, I also did a a2enmod ssl.   What am I missing?
[22:04] <malchias> apache2ctl -t says syntax ok, and it restarts ok serving http fine, but not https (using a self signed cert)
[22:06] <malchias> doh, apparently I have to a2ensite default-ssl
[22:06] <cloakable> :P
[22:28] <Akiraa> Is there a tutorial on how to get KVM virtualization going on Ubuntu server 10.14 LTS (Lucid)? I tried following this: http://www.ideyatech.com/2010/05/virtualization-with-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx  my problem is in the comment section
[22:45] <electrofreak> hi
[22:47] <electrofreak> just setup ubuntu-server 10.04 and setup samba... it wont show up on my windows computers. (I have to use the server's IP to connect to shares). Any ideas?
[22:47] <malchias> any firewalls?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> apparantly the server edition is basically just the desktop version, but without a gui, so maybe this is all you need
[22:47] <sebsebseb> !samba
[22:48] <electrofreak> malchias: no.... unless the latest ubuntu-server has a firewall by default?
[22:48] <sebsebseb> right back to #ubuntu
[22:49] <electrofreak> sebsebseb: heh. does it really mater where I ask? samba is the same for desktop and server....
[22:49] <sebsebseb> electrofreak: yes I was thinking  that
[22:49] <sebsebseb> pretty much straight away, after I told you to come here
[22:50] <malchias> electrofreak: I mean, there are multiple acl/fw points to check:  your windows boxes, the router, any intelligent switches, etc
[22:50] <electrofreak> I just wonder if there is something I'm missing. in the past, I've never had this problem with samba
[22:50] <electrofreak> malchias: well, I see other windows boxes on my box...
[22:52] <malchias> narrow it down to why it's failing.  Can it connect, is there a message, etc
[22:52] <electrofreak> malchias: yes, I can connect if I use \\<ip> ... it just isn't seen in the network neighborhood thing
[22:53] <malchias> by default windows has a firewall, and 445,135 are open... I don't know samba, but make sure it's allowed (disable the windows firewall and see if you can connect)
[22:53] <electrofreak> malchias: wait....
[22:54] <electrofreak> malchias: I think I just fixed it... ugh. stupid differences between old and new ubuntu....
[22:54] <malchias> cool, what's the fix?
[22:54] <electrofreak> malchias: it used to be if I just ran /etc/init.d/samba restart, both smbd and nmbd would restart
[22:54] <electrofreak> but now that isn't there
[22:54] <malchias> I see, cool
[22:54] <electrofreak> so.... I just manually started nmbd and it showed up right away
[22:55] <electrofreak> why'd they switch to this Upstart stuff?
[22:56]  * malchias is a noob - here to learn, doesn't know :)
[22:56] <jmarsden> electrofreak: upstart allows parallel startup of services... much faster boot times in some circumstances...
[22:57] <electrofreak> jmarsden: ah. ok. that is one thing I liked..... this thing now boots up in almost seconds.
[22:57] <jmarsden> Faster boots are very important for netbook users, for example... it was a major goal for this release...
[22:58] <electrofreak> I like that they made setting up RAIDs in the install super simple now...
[22:58] <electrofreak> last time I full installed was 8.04 LTS.... lots has changed since then
[22:59] <jmarsden> Yes, 8.04 was a long time ago :)
[23:01] <electrofreak> jmarsden: yea... I had upgraded my 8.04 to 10.04... but then last night had an unexpected "eff" moment with 'rm'... and my back-up was basically useless (and a month old, anyway)... so I hadn't intended to reinstall, but ended up having to
[23:01] <electrofreak> jmarsden: I think it's a good thing, tho. cleans up lots of cruft and such
[23:02] <jmarsden> rsnapshot (and some spare disk space) can really help with those kinds of mistakes... on my desktop here I have hourly backups of /etc and the parts of /home I care about, and then daily, then weekly, then monthly... all automated... :)
[23:04] <electrofreak> jmarsden: well, I actually had /etc and /hom and /var, so nothing critical was lost....
[23:04] <electrofreak> I honestly don't even know what the problem was... all files were there, like I could see and read everything from a livecd....
[23:04] <electrofreak> but, for some reason trying to chroot to it or boot from it, wasn't working. things like /bin/bash claimed they weren't there.
[23:05] <electrofreak> I think the FS was somehow messed up, but I don't know how or why
[23:15] <Akiraa> Has anyone configured KVM on Ubuntu server 10.04 (Lucid) ?
[23:32] <ruben23> hi anyone have idea how to kickout a users login on my server using ssh..?
[23:36] <malchias> ps -aux | grep pts
[23:37] <malchias> kill -9 <theirpid>
[23:37] <malchias> perhaps there is a more eloquent method though
[23:37] <amstan> killall -u username
[23:37] <malchias> that will kill all services logged in or running as that user name
[23:40] <bogeyd6> resno, why do you need to keep the windows machine around?
[23:45] <ne7work> hello all
[23:46] <electrofreak> ne7work: hi
[23:46] <ne7work> i have problem with nvidia driver on ubuntu server 9.04 with sudo apt-get install gnome
[23:46] <ne7work> and i don't have sound
[23:46] <ne7work> i have one error when i try sh ./nvidia-..
[23:47] <electrofreak> ne7work: what's the error?
[23:47] <ne7work> miss binitus
[23:47] <ne7work> or what is this..
[23:47] <ne7work> i don't remember
[23:48] <ne7work> i go to see ?
[23:49] <ne7work> electrofreak, binutils
[23:49] <ne7work> li kyv package
[23:49] <ne7work> electrofreak, echo?
[23:50] <electrofreak> ne7work: did you install binutils? sudo apt-get install binutils
[23:51] <ne7work> and now?
[23:51] <jmarsden> ne7work: Why are you trying to load nvidia drivers on a Ubuntu Server... Ubuntu server has no GUI anyway, by design....
[23:51] <ne7work> i install only gnome..
[23:51] <ne7work> and I need this ubuntu for listen music, skype, web server, hlds and counter-strike
[23:52] <jmarsden> On a server?  Hmmm.  Then you should install Ubuntu desktop, not Ubuntu server :)
[23:52] <electrofreak> ne7work: do you need it for server things?
[23:52] <Ichat> hi can anyone help me to 'finally'  get ubuntu  10.04 setup with  software raid  (i tried  x64 but it seems to  have error with mdadm  failing / wrong (or old? ) version   - missing or other error  with  an error at the end of the 'base- installer
[23:52] <ne7work> i write sudo apt-get install gnome on ubuntu server 9.04
[23:53] <ne7work> this is more fast than ubuntu desktop
[23:53] <jmarsden> ne7work: It will be much easier to install Ubuntu Desktop if you actually want a desktop machine.
[23:53] <ne7work> i need this two..
[23:53] <ne7work> desktop/server ..
[23:53] <ne7work> because that i install gnome only
[23:53] <ne7work> not ubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <Ichat> ne7work  -try ubuntu light edition
[23:53] <ne7work> i go to try now with binutils
[23:54] <electrofreak> ne7work: if I needed it for such things.... I would install desktop and just install the server packages I required on the desktop version...
[23:54] <Ichat> its better for your needs and still is geared to desktop use
[23:54] <electrofreak> well... binutills should be installed already, heh
[23:55] <electrofreak> I'm confused as to why he has to leave to install these things...
[23:56] <ne7work> what is the light edition?
[23:56] <ne7work> and how to install kernel-sources?
[23:57] <electrofreak> ne7work: netbook edition?
[23:57] <electrofreak> ne7work: you can apt-get the kernel sources
[23:57] <ne7work> why netbook?
[23:57] <ne7work> what i need to write
[23:57] <ne7work> to apt-get
[23:57] <ne7work> ...
[23:57] <ne7work> kernel?
[23:58] <electrofreak> ne7work: you asked what the light edition is.... netbook is pretty darned light
[23:58] <electrofreak> apt-get install linux-source
[23:58] <electrofreak> apt-get install linux-source-<version>
[23:59] <ne7work> what version i need?
[23:59] <ne7work> witch
[23:59] <ne7work> wich
[23:59] <electrofreak> ne7work: are you using 10.04?
[23:59] <ne7work> 9.04
[23:59] <ne7work> sec.
[23:59] <ne7work> i go to try again to install nvidia..