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BiggFREEHi00:23
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joaojeronimoHi everyone, I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors... I tryed X -configure :1 and generated an xorg.conf file and I tried using it... Both monitors turn on (one of them was on standby) but they both only display a black screen... Here is my xorg,conf file:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/452232/  Can someone help me with this please ?00:29
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lcxhello01:20
Typos_Kingallo01:22
harmandeepHi guys01:27
harmandeepcan anyone can help with Netgear WG 311v3 Drivers Installation in Ubuntu 10.04 64 Bit | via ndiswrappers ?01:27
harmandeep?01:27
XeperaI accidentally removed my KDE "task bar" (the one that shows running tasks, clock, etc).  What widget needs to be added to get it back?01:50
ilumii have a text file which i can not edit, need help01:59
DarthFrogilumi: Why can't you edit the file?01:59
ilumiDarthFrog, i dont know, i try to type or paste stuff into it, and nothing happens02:00
DarthFrogilumi: What file? What editor?02:00
ilumiDarthFrog, normal .txt file, it was made on linux, but i added the .txt later, and trying to edit with kate02:01
DarthFrogDoes kate load the file?02:02
ilumiyeah it loads and displays it02:02
DarthFrogWhat are the file's permissions?02:02
ilumiDarthFrog, read and write on everything, my username as owner and group02:03
DarthFrogSo what happens when you try to save the file after editing it?02:04
DarthFrogAnd please don't say "nothing".02:04
DarthFrog:-)02:04
ilumiwell, i cant input any new characters02:04
ilumiso i have to say nothing02:04
DarthFrogSo you can't edit the file?02:04
DarthFrogEditing and saving are different operations.02:04
ilumiwhen i hit save it prompts me to save as a new file02:05
DarthFrogAnd can you do that?02:06
ilumiyes but it doesnt save anything new, because i cant input anything02:06
DarthFrogNevermind that right now.  Can you save the file as a copy of the original file?  Can you edit & save the copy properly?02:07
ilumii can save the copy, but i cant edit the copy either02:08
DarthFrogIf so, edit the copy, save it then delete the original file and rename the copy to the name you want..02:08
DarthFrogHmm.  Bizarre.02:08
DarthFrogIf you can save the copy, then the file system is mounted rw.  So that's out.02:08
DragnslcrKate will let you edit a file even if you can't save it02:09
DarthFrogCan you open a terminal and type "lsattr <filename" where <filename> is the name of the problem child.02:09
DragnslcrI would guess that it's an encoding issue02:09
ilumibut i can edit it with open office02:09
DarthFrogAnd leave the terminal window open, cuz we're going to vi next. :-)02:10
DarthFrogHere's an idea: install kwrite and see if that solves the problem.02:11
ilumilsattr shows -----------------e- 1.txt02:11
EzroHey, can someone help me get my graphics card to work please?02:11
EzroLast time I tried I destroyed X and couldn't login02:12
Ezrolol02:12
ilumiEzro, whats the problem02:12
EzroI want to play my game on a clean install of kubuntu, my graphics card is an 8600 GT02:12
EzroAnd I don't know what to do.02:13
DarthFrogilumi:  The "..e" means that the file is using extents on the file system.  But it is not marked immutable.02:13
EzroLast time I tried installing the driver from nvidia's page.02:13
EzroThat just borked everything.02:13
ilumiEzro, you should be able to install a driver with the hardware drivers02:13
ilumioption02:14
EzroThe hardware drivers installed something weird last time02:14
EzroThat didn't work02:14
ilumiit should02:14
DarthFrogshould and does are two different things. :-)02:14
ilumiDarthFrog, ok, not sure what that means02:14
DarthFrogilumi: Install kwrite and try that as an editor.02:15
ilumiDarthFrog, ok will try thank you02:15
Ezroilumi: I see 3 options for NVIDIA: 173, 96 and current (recommended)02:16
EzroDo I just activate current and then restart?02:16
ilumiEzro, yup, wait for it to install02:16
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DarthFrogEzro: Don't go for current.02:17
EzroWhy not?02:17
DarthFrogNot with a card that old.02:17
DarthFrogTry the 96 drivers first.02:17
Ezro?02:17
ilumiEzro, i say go for current, but you should fine out how to uninstall them from the command prompt, if you want to get back to the desktop when they dont work02:20
ilumiDarthFrog, hey  kwrite cant edit it either02:23
DarthFrogilumi: Do you know how to use vi?02:24
ilumiDarthFrog, yes, do you know if there is a command to reset all permissions/02:24
DarthFrogUse "chmod" to change permissions02:25
DarthFrog"chmod 660 <filename>" should be sufficient.02:25
DarthFrogBut before that, how about trying "ls -lah <filename>" and pasting the single line result here?02:27
EzroSo I went with 96 first02:27
EzroAnd I rebooted into command prompt02:27
ilumiDarthFrog,  -rwxrwxrwx 1 ilumi ilumi 11K 2010-06-13 03:39 1.txt02:28
DarthFrogWhat happens if you type "startx"?  If it fails, what error is given by /var/log/Xorg.0.log.02:28
DarthFrogilumi: You don't need to reset those permissions.  :-) that's wide open!02:28
EzroDarthFrog: Could not open the devile file /dev/nvidia002:29
DarthFrogilumi: That's 777 permissions.  The file is set as excutable, BTW.02:29
ilumiDarthFrog, yes, i unchecked executable, but i still cant edit02:30
DarthFrogEzro: Nuisance.  Beyond me right now.  But that's the scotch whiskey effect. :-)02:30
EzroDo you know how to get rid of the driver?02:31
DarthFrogilumi: Can you cut 'n paste the contents of the file into a new, empty file?02:31
ilumiDarthFrog, and yes vi can also edit it02:31
ilumibut not kate or kwrite :o(02:32
DarthFrogilumi: OK, so you can edit the file.  Sounds like a bug with the KDE editors.02:32
DarthFrogEzro: What do you get from "dpkg --list | grep -i nvidia"?02:33
Ezronvidia-173-modaliases, nvidia-96, -96-modaliases, -common, -current, -current-modaliases02:34
ilumiDarthFrog, yes, that works, its a bug, because that text file was created on arch i think02:34
ilumior some other distro02:34
DarthFrogEzro: Then "sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>", using those package names will get rid of them.02:34
DarthFrogilumi: A text file is a text file is a text file.02:35
DarthFrogOr should be.02:35
ilumiDarthFrog, it should be, its really annoying though02:36
DarthFrogilumi: If you can work around it, do so and get on with your life.  That kind of stuff happens to me all the time and I can't be bothered getting my knickers in a knot over it.  Pragmatism is preferable to perfection.02:37
ilumiDarthFrog, yeah you right, i only have 2, but it could be a problem if someone has many02:38
EzroWhat do I do now02:40
EzroI can't get back into X02:40
EzroThis is the same problem I had before02:40
EzroAnyone have any ideas on how to fix?02:44
ilumiEzro, uninstall the driver02:45
EzroI removed everything I could from that list.02:46
EzroAnd I still can't boot.02:46
Ezrointo X, that is02:46
EzroI can boot just fine02:46
ilumiwhat did you remove?02:46
ilumiand how02:46
Ezro"sudo apt-get remove --purge" everything from "dpkg --list | grep -i nvidia"02:46
ilumii dont think thats a good way to remove it, you could remove some other files that are needed02:48
EzroWell02:49
EzroDarth told me to do that.02:49
ilumiwhat you should have done is to search for nvidia, and it would tell you which packages were installed02:49
ilumiand then remove the driver by name, nothing else02:49
iluminow search for nvidia02:50
ilumiand install the latest driver02:50
EzroIf I knew how to do any of those things, I would be using Gentoo.02:50
ilumithen reboot02:50
ilumiaptitude search nvidia02:50
ilumithen aptitude install packagename02:51
ilumias sudo02:51
ilumisudo aptitude install packagename02:52
EzroThere's a bunch of stuff from search nvidia02:53
ilumiwell look for the driver02:53
ilumiyou said 175 or something02:53
EzroI'm going to just get current.02:54
ilumiok02:56
EzroYa, I just installed and rebooted02:56
Ezroand X still won't start.02:56
ilumiso type start x02:57
ilumistart02:57
ilumix02:57
ilumidamn02:57
ilumistartX02:57
EzroI tried that and it didn't work02:57
ilumiso open the log file that darth was talking about and see what it says02:57
ilumicd /etc/X1102:58
ilumils02:58
ilumivi or vim thelogfilename02:58
ilumior whatever else if you are on gnome02:58
ilumigedit02:58
EzroI think I'm done with this -_-"02:59
EzroAs I said, if I wanted this work I'd just install Gentoo.03:00
ilumiyeah its not easy to get along with linux03:00
ilumithere used to be a command to reconfigure the xserver, but i think they got rid of it,03:01
ilumiand i dont know how to reconfigure it now03:01
ilumiand no one knows i guess03:02
ilumitry ubuntu channel there are more people there03:04
ilumimaybe someone knows03:05
denisalgun español?03:08
ilumiEzro, see if this command works - sudo dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg03:08
denisSPANISH?03:08
ilumiEzro, or sudo nvidia-xconfig03:09
ilumi!es03:09
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.03:09
DarthFrogilumi: Purging the nvidia packages isn't going to cause any problems that Ezro doesn't already have.  At least now he doesn't have any stale files/drivers hanging around.03:12
DarthFrogEzro: Have you tried the nv driver?  It'll give you X but not 3D.03:13
DarthFrogEzro: Is there a xorg.conf.failsafe file in /etc/X11?  If so, then "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and reboot.03:21
draikapparle: Are you still around?03:32
apparledraik: yup03:32
draikBlueskaj: Are you still around?03:32
draikapparle: Still no audio from Firefox or VLC03:33
apparledraik: :( I seriously don't know... what all have you tried03:33
draikapparle: Everthing I've been given I've tried. I'm not sure what I could be missing to make this work. I have audio when I log in and when I use Amarok.03:34
apparledraik: ok try this, select the audio device as OSS in vlc03:34
draikapparle: Just did it and it's not producing output03:36
apparledraik: did you restart vlc after that03:36
draikapparle: Just did and still nothing03:37
apparledraik: no idea, then...03:37
draikapparle: OK.Thanks for your help03:37
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ilumidraik, you have no sound?04:07
apparlehey anyone knows any freenode server listening at port 44304:36
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draikilumi: Sorry, I had to step away.05:17
draikilumi: I have sound with Amarok, but not with VLC or Firefox05:17
ilumithats weird05:17
ilumiyou have pulse alsa or what05:18
draikI have VLC set to Alsa right now. I don't have pulseaudio installed so I don't think that's an option05:19
ilumisee if you have alsa-oss installed05:19
draikI don't. Let me install it really quick05:20
ilumii dont know much about it, when i have sound problem i just install alsa and alsa-oss and things work05:20
draikThat didn't do anything for me05:22
draikI restarted Firefox along with VLC; still no change05:24
dooduhi05:24
ilumihi05:35
ilumidraik, i say uninstall and purge alsa and alsa oss then reinstall, and revert back if you did any changes in the players settings05:36
draikilumi: OK05:57
ilumithats all i know,05:58
jaldharHello.  Did the latest updates to lucid kill knetworkmanager or is it just me?06:26
jaldharI noticed solid was upgraded.06:26
trupheenixhi07:32
trupheenixhow do i change my theme? i want everything to be glassified. how can i do this?07:32
macosystemsettings -> appearance -> windows07:33
macochoose the "aurorae" theme07:33
macoer aurorae engine....thingy07:34
macoand then use the Get New Themes (or whatever it is) button to get aurorae themes07:34
macoaurorae is the glassy engine07:34
trupheenixmaco: ok07:35
trupheenix maco: kde is so damn confusing07:35
macosystemsettings could use some work, yeah.... it got some major reworking in kde 4.5 which'll be in 10.1007:36
charlescarmichaecan anyone tell me how to set different activities per desktop in kde 4.5?07:39
trupheenixmaco: so weird07:48
trupheenixmaco: why can't everything be consistent? i don't like so many options :(07:48
trupheenixmaco: i changed the window appearance with aurora but it looks so bad now07:48
trupheenixmaco: the widgets look out of place07:48
macoi dont know... i dont use window decorations (i use xmonad not kwin) at all, so ive never played with that customization07:50
Lightningbazhang:  MY network is fucked again07:51
LightningCan you help?07:51
LightningAnybody here really. My network manager is showing the disconnected icon and whenever I right click I only get the 'network manager is disabled' option. I can't connect by LAN wither. I ran  lshw and it said DISBALED next to network07:54
LightningHow do I re-enable it?07:54
EzrosHey, can someone help me with my audio please?07:55
EzrosUnder the system settings -> multimedia, the test works fine07:56
EzrosBut I don't get any sound on my browser or on any program.07:56
mfraz74Lightning: have you got anything added to /etc/network/interfaces?07:56
LightningNo07:58
LightningI just folowed a forum staff member's post on this service network-manager stop07:58
Lightningrm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state07:58
Lightningservice network-manager start07:58
Lightningthe commands start at service07:58
EzrosAnyone know how to fix my problem?08:02
LightningCheck your volume08:04
Ezros-_-08:04
Lightninghttp://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=933881408:04
LightningMight help. Just found it08:04
LightningAnd for anyone having the same problem as me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145106408:06
EzrosI think I fixed it08:06
EzrosI had to update my software, I think lol08:07
Lightninglol08:07
LightningTry it out then08:07
LightningOh yay it's working aghain!08:07
Lightningall you have to do is run: sudo rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state08:07
jaldharLightning: that's it?  You don't have to restart network-manager?08:09
_jaldharLightning: if you come back THANKS!  I've been banging my head against this problem for a while now.08:14
trupheenixhow do i get the battery plasmoid to show my how much time is remaining on my battery?08:37
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CocoAこんにちは~09:55
amichairis it possible to use Kate without it trying to write out config files etc.? or some other way to edit root or other user's files with Kate?11:00
abo-faisalسلام يا عرب11:21
Peace-amichair: ?11:40
Peace-what do you want do ?11:40
Peace-you wanna edit some files with kate like super user ?11:40
amichairPeace-: in particular, edit web files (user www-data) using Kate11:40
Peace-create a laucher11:40
amichairPeace-: launcher?11:41
amichairPeace-: the problem is when kate starts it tries writing all sorts of .kde files under /var/www (in this case) and fails to start. Any way to run it without it trying to save config?11:41
Peace-mmm11:42
Peace-i think no11:42
Peace-or maybe11:42
Peace-just wait a second11:42
Peace-no way11:43
Peace- kate [-s, --start name] [-u, --use] [-p, --pid pid] [-e, --encoding name] [-l, --line line]11:43
Peace-            [-c, --column column] [-i, --stdin] [KDE Generic Options] [Qt Generic Options]11:43
amichairso it looks like I'm stuck with vi :-/11:44
wedowhere can i paste the console output?12:04
amichair!pastebin12:05
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e01what videocard i had to have, to get a smooth resizable windows in kde12:12
e01now i am with integrated gf6100 and when try to resize windows i have to wait a little bit12:13
kleopatrahello, anyone here?12:15
amichairyes, just ask away. If someone can help, they will.12:16
starslightse01:  well i think that's a really old nvidia card no ?12:16
e01starslights: it`s not really new12:16
e01but with compiz i get better results :(12:17
kleopatraok, my question is whether i can assume that the time a cpu will need to access L2 Cache is constant. And the same with the main memory. I hope u understand what i mean12:18
starslightswell devs will more able to answer than me but i have a 9600 or soemthink like that and to run all new features, it i don't see how old card can handle it if you don't disable some options, wait to have a good answer :P12:19
amichairkleopatra: it depends on the level of accuracy you need... you can always assume things if the assumptions give you good enough results :-)12:20
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kleopatraamichair: well some kind of difficult, i have a problem here where i want to point out that the time the computer needed to solve some problems depends on the Cachemisses, but the correlation coefficient isnt the way i expected it to be12:29
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amichairkleopatra: in general, you can assume that each level of cache/RAM/disk has a different, more or less constant access time. Other than that, the question is too vague, and not really related to kubuntu.12:38
kleopatraamichair: i know its kinda ot but who can i ask? id like to join some channel for this problem but i dont know what to look for12:39
amichairkleopatra: I'm not sure myself where to ask about such topics12:41
trupheenixhi is there any plasmoid for korganizer?12:48
BluesKajhowdy folks13:27
amichairhey BluesKaj13:27
BluesKajhi amichair13:27
jaimehi, how do i find out the proper channel names to use in a construct like 'qdbus org.kde.kmix /Mixer0 org.kde.KMix.increaseVolume Line:0'?13:28
poyntzhow do i get the plasma notes widgit for the latest kubuntu?13:32
slow-motionhi14:11
poyntz!chrome14:40
poyntzwhy is chrome not in the lucid reps?14:41
bazhangpoyntz, you may be looking for chromium-browser14:42
poyntzty baz14:42
bazhang!info chromium-browser14:42
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.375.38~r46659-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 (lucid), package size 11558 kB, installed size 38424 kB14:42
poyntzgah14:42
poyntzi needed something else :S14:42
poyntzwas just wondering how I can get flash to work fully14:42
poyntzin chrome that is14:42
poyntzbut it applies to konqueror as well14:43
poyntzso i'm thinking it's the flash package14:43
James147poyntz: do you have it installed? (flashplugin-installer)14:43
poyntzyep. the latest14:43
poyntzi could give you the address of the page i'm struggling with, but you'll need to register an account to see it14:44
poyntz*webpage14:44
trupheenixhow do i drag windows across desktops?14:46
James147trupheenix: cant remember where it is in 4.4 (they are moving things around in 4.5 :S) but its in system settings > Window behavoiur> Screen edge > "Switch desktop on edge"14:48
trupheenixhow do i drag windows aross desktops14:48
slow-motionre14:49
trupheenixslow-motion: ?14:50
poyntzyour method doesn't work for the latest version of kde i think tru14:50
trupheenixpoyntz: why ? :'(14:50
trupheenixpoyntz: it was so easy under gnome just drag it and the cube spun around14:51
poyntznot sure but i just tried myself to verify and the option wasn't there14:51
poyntzlol14:51
poyntzi set it on the last version14:51
* trupheenix hates kde14:51
poyntzso i don't have the problem14:51
poyntz:)14:51
trupheenixwill switch back to lxde14:51
poyntzbut yeah true, it should be a default14:51
James147poyntz: I still ahve the option in kde 4.5 beta so it should still be on 4.414:51
trupheenixwas no frills but worked14:51
James147just they keep moving it around :)14:52
poyntzJames147: strange. I promise I've got no option called 'screen edge' in window behaviour :/14:52
James147poyntz: on kde 4.5 beta? its in a different place on 4.414:52
poyntzJames147: i'm on the kubuntu lucid, not quite sure how to check my kde version :/14:53
poyntzi'd give you the specifics if i could14:53
James147poyntz: any kde application > help > about KDE14:54
poyntzi'm on 4.4.214:54
poyntzso this is strange :/14:55
James147poyntz: yeah, they you have the option, its jsut not in the same place... but i cant remember where it is exatly14:55
James147poyntz: might be under desktop :S14:55
poyntzi'm trying that lol14:55
poyntzi'm fine. i've already enabled :)14:55
poyntzi'm just trying to help tru out14:56
poyntztrupheenix: try this: Desktop -> Screen Edges -> and select 'Always Enabled' from the drop down menu next to "Switch desktop on edge'14:57
poyntztrupheenix: then click Apply14:58
poyntztrupheenix: did you get that?14:59
trupheenixpoyntz: nope14:59
trupheenixpoyntz: got disconnected14:59
poyntztrupheenix: try this: Desktop -> Screen Edges -> and select 'Always Enabled' from the drop down menu next to "Switch desktop on edge'14:59
poyntztrupheenix: then click Apply14:59
trupheenixpoyntz: found15:00
poyntz:)15:00
trupheenixpoyntz: kde needs to take lessons from gnome in simplicity of UI15:00
trupheenixpoyntz: kde is like windoz15:00
poyntzagreed15:00
trupheenixpoyntz: too many options15:00
trupheenixpoyntz: ultimate confusion15:00
trupheenixpoyntz: gnome is like mac. simple and clean.15:01
poyntzlol. i like it cause it's sexy15:01
trupheenixpoyntz: yet powerful15:01
poyntzbut i have to disagree with windows vs mac15:01
poyntzto me mac is really complicated15:01
poyntzand windows is really simple15:01
poyntzbut i agree with you on the kde vs gnome comparison15:01
James147I dont find kdes settings that complicated... they have been moving things around abit too much :) but usually for a good reason15:02
poyntzJames147: i think he's talking about 'systems settings' specifically15:03
poyntzJames147: it's difficult to know what fits under desktop and window behaviour15:03
James147poyntz: as am I :S15:03
poyntzJames147: not sure if there's a tutorial anywhere either15:03
poyntzJames147: also the fact they keep changing stuff around doesn't help :P15:03
trupheenixJames147: obviously u don't use any apple products or gnome15:04
trupheenixJames147: start using and u will find simplicity15:04
James147poyntz: they have been looking at that and are moving things to where they are more suited... as why that setting is now under window behavoiur (also they got rid of the advanced tab)(15:04
trupheenixJames147: their UIs are much simpler and organized than kde15:04
trupheenixJames147: but KDE is sexy no doubt :) looks damn good15:04
James147trupheenix: I found they ui too restrictive and I couldent find some of the option i wanted (they didnt exist)15:04
poyntztrupheenix: i disagree somewhat and agree somewhat15:05
trupheenixpoyntz James147: well yea true15:05
trupheenixpoyntz: James147 but simplicity rules for most people15:05
poyntztrupheenix: i find with all the right settings enabled the kde interface is a lot better for window management etc.15:05
James147trupheenix: and you have to keep in mind that kde 4 is fairly new and evolving rapidly, they move things to better locations every verssion (which is anoying at the time but better in the future)15:05
poyntztrupheenix: also i favour the programs that come preinstalled with kde over the default gnome ones15:06
James147poyntz: same here15:06
trupheenixpoyntz: one of the thinks i like about gnome is the absence of an apply button. u choose an option and it gets applied. u can actually see how it will look like. incase u don't like it u can press cancel and it's gone! :)15:06
James147poyntz: about the only window managmet option I hanve is the "click to focus" setting15:06
James147i have changed ^^15:06
trupheenixpoyntz: personally i think empathy or pidgin are much better options than kopete.15:07
trupheenixpoyntz: quassel irc is nice15:07
poyntztrupheenix: true. the thing is competing OSs / window manager teams have a tendency to want to make things quite different from each other. Take windows/mac for example and how mac puts the minimise/close buttons on the left, but windows puts them on the right15:07
poyntzJames147: true. the thing is competing OSs / window manager teams have a tendency to want to make things quite different from each other. Take windows/mac for example and how mac puts the minimise/close buttons on the left, but windows puts them on the right15:07
poyntztrupheenix: sorry my last message to you was supposed to be for James147 :P15:08
James147poyntz: I just like the fact you can change most the settings you dont like in kde (unlike in windows.. at least not easily)15:09
trupheenixJames147: i agree with u15:09
trupheenixJames147: KDE is more customizable than GNOME.15:09
trupheenixJames147: but that makes it more complex15:09
poyntzJames147: definitely agree there. also because of the slim nature of the linux applications. kde provides a fast alternative to the windows environment15:10
James147trupheenix: of which i can live with.. I prefure having my desktop exatly how I want rather then almost exatly how I want but having a cleaner settings ui in return (which I dont ahve to look at once I have set the settings)15:10
poyntzJames147: also love the wabbly windows and they ability to get rid of Alt+Tabbing15:10
poyntz*the15:11
trupheenixeven though i personally think KDE is a royal mess. i must admit that the community is excellent. u guys have the best attitude and knowledge. i hardly find anyone to speak to on the gnome or gtk channels.15:11
poyntznot to mention the quick Alt+F2 search feature (which looks for things on the Internet for us :D)15:11
trupheenixpoyntz: i love alt+f215:12
trupheenixpoyntz: just love it15:12
poyntz:)15:12
poyntzbut unfortunately not there in gnome15:12
poyntzalso widgets are great15:12
poyntzyou can make things so customizable15:12
poyntzand it's all preinstalled15:12
trupheenixpoyntz: yes it's there. there is an alt+f215:12
James147poyntz: i like the fact it have an inbuit calcualtor and spell checker as well :)  but I think this is getting a bit off topic now we should move to #kubuntu-offtopic15:12
poyntztrue15:13
poyntzwhy has plasma-notes been removed from the reps?15:13
poyntzand is it still compatible with the latest kde environment?15:13
poyntzmaybe i'm thinking plasma-widgit-notes15:14
James147poyntz: widgets are under plasma-widgets-*15:14
poyntzJames147: I tried but can't see notes there :/15:16
poyntzit was in kde 4.315:16
poyntzcame preinstalled too15:16
James147poyntz: I think "notes" might be in the core widgets, can you not find it in "add widgets"? (its here and was preinstalled on mine)15:18
trupheenixany one know how to change the K icon in the launcher? i want to put a Kubuntu Icon15:19
James147trupheenix: right click it > Application launcher settings > general > icon15:20
trupheenixJames147: wow so easy?15:23
James147trupheenix: yeah :D15:24
BluesKajeye candy is easy on kde15:25
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BluesKajeye candy on gnome is terrible and the options are cartooney looking ,IMO15:26
BluesKajthat panel at the top , who dreamed that up ... just to be different than windows it seems15:27
trupheenixBluesKaj: it's actually quite nice. it's more usable than everything else. it's so simplified even for beginners15:27
BluesKajtrupheenix, what is ?15:27
trupheenixBluesKaj: the GNOME menu bar15:28
James147BluesKaj: I dont mind the panel on top... What I hate is the panel on top AND the panel on bottom :S15:28
BluesKajwell, to each his own I guess :)15:28
trupheenixJames147: both panels are nice because i open like a zillion windows at one go so it's useful to have stuff clean at the bottom. i put application launch icons on the top for frequently used applications.15:29
James147trupheenix: If ever I have that many windows open I would get rid of the task bar and place the effect "present windows" on one of the screen edges15:30
trupheenixJames147: ah... and then u would hunt through them :)15:30
trupheenixJames147: nice idea15:30
James147trupheenix: or consider smooth tasks again :)15:31
* James147 goes to install smooth tasks15:31
James147oo its in the repos now :D15:31
BluesKajI don't populate the desktop with icons , the panel is fine for launching apps15:31
James147BluesKaj: I barly use icons to launch apps anymore.. Alt+f2 :D15:32
trupheenixJames147 BluesKaj I like your way of thinking. it is very practical15:33
trupheenixmust admit that i love alt+f215:33
BluesKajthis is my present desktop http://imagebin.ca/view/R0fRfn.html15:37
Luukje|AfkBluesKaj: nice pic15:41
James147BluesKaj: heres mine http://imagebin.ca/view/NnDA-d.html  :)15:42
BluesKajLuukje|Afk, yeah luv the available wallpapers from kde-look , one can also install them using the "desktop activity settings" , just right click in the desktop15:42
Luukje|Afk:P15:43
Luukje|Afkok ty15:43
BluesKajJames147, twin monitors ?15:44
James147BluesKaj: aye :) the bottom black bit is the part of the desktop I cannot see due to different resilutions15:45
BluesKajbeen considering using my second 22" samung , might swap it out and give wifey the 20" :)15:45
BluesKajJames147, right15:46
eviljokerhi, I have a problem with my kubuntu netbook 10.04. sometimes happen that some icons are shown with the star on the right top and when I move my mouse on it the star disappear... is it a bug?15:52
James147eviljoker: is the page locked? the start wont appear is it is and should if it is not.15:53
eviljokerJames147: yes the page is locked15:54
James147eviljoker: unlock it and you should be able to click teh star (it will add it to your favrouites at the top of the page)15:54
James147eviljoker: other then that it should only be a minor cosmetic bug if you are showing when its locked but disapearing when you try to use them15:55
eviljokerJames147: pratically the star should appear only when I move the curson on the icon, but sometimes happen the  opposite thing15:57
James147eviljoker: is it a major problem to you? if not you could wait untill 4.5 is realeased and see if its fixed in that15:58
eviljokerJames147: sure it's not a big problem but if it is a bug I want to report it so it can be solved in the next release :)16:00
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eviljokerubottu: thank you. is there a list of the bugs that have been arleady reported?16:08
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amichairhelp! I just installed lucid updates, and following a reboot I can't login - can't start ksmserver error. when running manually it says something about a version mismatch between NVIDIA libGL.so and lilbGLcore. What's going on?16:20
James147amichair: umm, are you using the nvidia drivers?16:21
amichairJames147: yeah, had nvidia-current The latest batch of updates were supposed to take it from 195.36.15 to 195.36.24, but now it's half way there (those two version numbers appear as mismatched in the error message)16:22
James147amichair: rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try restarting kdm that will revert you back to the open drivers and should allot you to fix the problem :)16:23
amichairJames147: I tried that, same error16:24
amichairis ksmserver loaded by kdm or ther other way around? or independently?16:24
James147amichair: I am not sure16:25
James147amichair: you sould try running startx and see if that works16:25
amichairJames147: already running16:26
amichairI see the login screen too, but after entering the credential, I get a generic ksmserver error. when I try running ksmserver in tty, I get the detailed version mismatch error16:27
ubuntu_Hello, somone know what chmod number directorys in Kubuntu should have i thinked i chmodded /tmp 755 and borked the system :(16:28
James147amichair: try creating a new user and see if you can login with them16:28
James147ubuntu_: Mine is on 777 :S16:29
ubuntu_ok16:29
James147ubuntu_: or at least rwxrwxrwt :S what ever that t is :S16:29
ubuntu_James147: you know if i can mount the disk via a live cd and just change?16:30
James147ubuntu_: you can, not sure why you would need to, cant you get to a terminal?16:30
ubuntu_i can16:31
ubuntu_but can't login via the disk16:31
ubuntu_tried now brb if it not works16:31
James147ubuntu_: even a virtual console?16:31
ubuntu_is sudo chmod +rwxrwxrwt /media/disk/tmp good16:31
ubuntu_James147: no16:31
ubuntu_or should try that brb16:31
James147ubuntu_: I dont know that the t is, 777 should work fine16:32
amichairJames147: if I remove nvidia-current and nvidia-current-modalias, then logon works... but then I don't have the drivers.16:32
James147amichair: hmm, what happens if you reinstall them?16:33
CartoonCatHellos16:34
amichairJames147: should I install both packages? are there others that need to be installed?16:34
CartoonCatpoped in a memory card to my laptop, and its not detected. looks like no richo or mmc modules are loading, nor are they present. were they left out of the build? (stock build not custom)16:35
James147amichair: not sure, I would do it through jockey-kde that should install everything that is needed16:35
James147CartoonCat: is your bios detecting the memory?16:36
CartoonCat>.<16:36
CartoonCatnot RAM16:36
amichairJames147: I tried, it didn't show any drivers on the list16:36
CartoonCatmemorystick Pro Duo16:36
James147CartoonCat: :) sorry16:36
James147CartoonCat: missed the word "card" :)16:36
CartoonCat(me to, i asusme the mmc and richo modules would be a give away)16:37
CartoonCatI have a habit of details hehe16:37
CartoonCatlacking16:37
James147CartoonCat: I want sure what they where :)16:37
BluesKajamichair, whynot check the hardware drivers in /system to see which driver is recommended , and btw which nvidia card are you running ?16:38
James147amichair: try reinstalling them both then and see what happens16:38
amichaircurrent was recommended when I upgraded to lucid. I have an on-board 9300. worked great up until this update.16:39
CartoonCatJames147: aaah, you never have used a card reader have you ?16:40
James147CartoonCat: I have, but all the ones I have just work :S16:40
CartoonCatmine did too till lucid, biggest damn mistake of my life, should have stayed with 9.16:41
BluesKajamichair, http://www.pastebin.ca/188711216:41
amichairJames147, BluesKaj: reinstalled nvidia-current, and it doesn't start again. gui shows generic 'ksmserver can't start' message. Running ksmserver on tty says a version mismatch between the nvidia libGL.so (195.36.15) and libGLcore.so (195.36.24).16:46
Anubisi have this process running: nepomukserver. can this process be stopped from starting again when my kub bo boot ?16:46
James147Anubis: System settings > advanced > nepomuk | desktop search16:47
BluesKajamichair, sorry I should include remove existing driver in those instructions :( then install the new one , the current drivers obviously updated16:48
amichairseems to me either the updated nvidia-current is broken itself, or it doesn't clean up the previous version properly :-/16:48
Anubisit's disabled16:48
amichairBluesKaj: tried that before - when I remove the nvidia drivers, everything ok (except, of course, I don't have the drivers).16:48
CartoonCatamichair: both, you need to manualy delete the libgl's16:48
James147Anubis: then it should start16:48
James147Anubis: shouldnt ^^16:49
BluesKajamichair, yeah perhaps purging the driver would work16:49
Anubisjames147: it shoud't but it does16:50
amichairhow do I list the files/versions that are installed as part of a package?16:50
BluesKajamichair, aptitude show nameofapplication | grep State16:52
Anubisthis is the line: kdeinit4: nepomukserver [kdeinit] -session <some numbers>16:52
James147Anubis: what version of kde are you using?>16:53
Anubis44216:53
amichairBluesKaj: I meant to see what the package (e.g. nvidia-settings) consists of - which libs and which versions16:53
amichairummm. nvidia-current, that is16:54
BluesKajapt-cache policy nvidia-current, amichair16:55
BluesKajyeah, that's one i can't recall16:55
trupheenixi have a blind buddy16:57
trupheenixhe wants to use kubuntu16:57
trupheenixhe's cribbing about accessibility16:57
trupheenixwhat should i tell him?16:57
trupheenixdoes orca work with kde?16:57
James147trupheenix: orca?16:58
amichairhmmm... when I run 'locate 195.36.15' I see all sorts of libs of the old version... how do I get rid of them? repeat the uninstall of the previous version somehow?17:00
BluesKajtrupheenix, check system settings / accessibility17:01
BluesKajamichair, yeah do a remove --purge nvidi-current , see what happens ,but use the default kernel source driver to log back in then check again to make sure they're gone17:02
BluesKajthe libs that is17:03
trupheenixBluesKaj: nope no orca integration. must have orca integration17:04
BluesKajin other words amichair , just log back in after a reboot without installing the new driver17:04
BluesKajtrupheenix, well , dunno what to suggest , sorry. maybe someone else can help .17:05
trupheenixBluesKaj: hmmm17:06
BluesKajhmmm?17:07
James147trupheenix: kdes text to seech software isnt working very well atm :( but is slowly improving over time. I dont see it getting a screen reader untill then17:07
* BluesKaj wonders if Dragon NaturallySpeaking will run in wine17:10
James147BluesKaj: from what I remember it dident do very will in wine :(17:11
bittinHello, somone know why dwm dosen't show up in kdm17:11
BluesKajJames147, was thinking of trying it..wife has really decent version of it and runs great on vista17:12
James147bittin: probally because its a windowmanager not a desktop enviroment... you should be able to replace kwin with it in the kde session though17:13
bittinhuh?17:13
starslightstrupheenix: i had same problem with the driver nvidia  a couple day ago and finaly i found only one command who fixed all, maybe can help you but i am not enough expert to know if it will good for you, it was "sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers- `uname -r`" , i don't want that's it doeas somthing more bad for you, but by me it's good again17:13
bittinthat i don't want to do17:14
trupheenixstarslights: ?17:14
starslightsyes17:14
starslightsi wasn't able to start my system after the update, because of the nvidia driver, and that command fixed my problem, but i don't really know if it's same for you...17:15
BluesKajstarslights, I think you should have directed that to amichair , sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers- `uname -r` ..is that correct ?17:16
amichairthanks, but any idea why that would be realated?17:17
starslightsyes, i have do that , that's right, after my system download a missing package and rebuild all and after rebooting all started again17:17
James147bittin: http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-03/msg07229.html17:17
BluesKajamichair, could be a missing lib module in the kernel source17:18
amichairhmmm, I just ran that, and it says it's already installed at the newest version17:18
starslightsnot really, it's the secound time i got that problem after a upgarde on Lucid, never had on previous version , now i am happy to know how fix it  but i had serach and tested lot of things :/17:18
bittini can start dwm from openbox :)17:19
bittinthats the easy way to solve it17:19
BluesKajamichair, you ptobly need to run it on a tty , ctrl+alt+f117:20
amichairI'm running everything in a tty, since I can't get into anything else :-)17:20
BluesKajok ;017:20
amichairhow can I reinstall the previous version of nvidia-current?17:21
BluesKajdid you purge nvidia like i suggested a while ago ?17:22
amichairpurge? sorry, I must have missed that... I just removed17:22
amichairBluesKaj: what should I run?17:23
James147amichair: sudo aptitude purge <package>    will remove config files as well17:23
amichairok, then after restart should I try installing again?17:24
amichairhmmm... it shows some warnings about 'directory not empty so not removed'17:24
ChuckyYhiho17:24
ChuckyYplz help me for connect me bnc17:24
amichairshould I remove all those dirs manually?17:24
ChuckyYim have quaesl irc17:24
James147amichair: depends whats inside them :S17:25
amichairthey all have nvidia-current in the path, so I'm guessing I can kill anything under that.... I hope :-)17:25
James147amichair: rather then deleteing tehm try renaming them just incase :)17:26
amichairJames147: always good advice :-)17:26
EzroHey guys, how do I install mono and get it to work?17:39
EzroI tried doing sudo aptitude install mono-complete17:39
EzroBut I still couldn't run my program with that.17:39
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clerkhello guys! who try use qutim as jabber client to connect to jabber server on google apps?17:44
trupheenixis there any way to hide and unhide the plasmoids on my desktop?17:48
James147trupheenix: what do you mean, hide indivitual plasmoids temproly or to show the plasmoids over the windows?17:49
amichairJames147: I removed all them bad folders, reinstalled, rebooted, still no go.17:49
trupheenixJames147: i want to hide all of them together.17:49
trupheenixJames147: and also be able to show them over the window if required17:49
trupheenixi sometimes want to see a completely clean desktop17:50
amichairnow if I try running ksmserver I get 'symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol...'17:50
James147trupheenix: you can 'hide' them by creating a new activity and switching to that (not desktop, activity)17:50
trupheenixJames147: didn't get u17:51
clerkso is it possible connet to google apps jabber using qutim?17:54
BluesKajreinstalled nvidia amichair ? .. you should have just relogged in then checked to see if the bad libs were gone first18:00
amichairBluesKaj, James147: It's fixed!! Thanks a lot for your help! What I had to do is uninstall and purge nvidia-current, and then manually remove all libGL*.* and libGLcore*.* from /usr/lib and /usr/lib32, as well as all of /usr/lib(32)/nvidia-current, then reinstall the drivers, and reboot...18:06
James147amichair: :)18:06
James147amichair: not sure why it was so complcated to fix it :S18:07
amichairthat was one hairy update18:07
amichairin any case, thanks a bunch to everyone :-)18:10
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cassiooi18:15
BluesKajamichair, yay :) !18:29
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noir_lordunder Kubuntu 10.04 the keyboard stops responding at random times, I've installed all available updates, disabled all accessibility options (most of which where already off anyway), when it does it the mouse cursor continues to respond19:04
noir_lordthe keyboard is PS/2, any one have any idea's why?19:04
trupheenixin the middle of the most exciting world cup match19:15
trupheenixi have a question19:15
trupheenixhow do i get ssl support working for kopete over jabber19:15
trupheenix?19:15
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spawnhi everyone, could anyone help with iphone support "out of the box" :)20:04
spawninfo is slightly sketchy but it is supposed to work! has anyone managed to get access to thier iphone?20:09
spawnis there anyone here?20:12
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mfraz74spawn: what do you want to do with the iphone?20:13
spawnhi man, i was just looking to transfer songs on and off20:14
mfraz74think you have to connect it to a windows pc to start with20:15
spawnohh yeah, totally20:15
mfraz74with itunes20:15
spawni had it on the girlfriends itunes to activate it20:15
mfraz74what are you trying to use to transfer the songs?20:15
spawnwell i have amarok installed, but it doesnt seem to mount that i can see20:16
mfraz74does the device notifier do anything when you connect the iphone?20:16
spawnnope... and i have tried switching it on when its plugged in20:17
mfraz74does lsusb show anything?20:17
mfraz74or dmesg20:17
spawni duno, how do i check20:17
spawnok lsusb has an entry for iphone20:18
mfraz74open up konsole it's in the menu under system. connect your iphone wait a bit and then type lsusb and dmesg |tail20:18
mfraz74what about dmesg?20:19
mfraz74and what is the entry for the iphone?20:19
spawnlsusb states: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 05ac:1292 Apple, Inc. iPhone 3G20:19
spawndmesg stats many things the last of which is config 1 chosen from 4 choices20:20
mfraz74which version of k/ubuntu?20:20
spawn10.0420:21
spawnit also states [38642.834070] nepomukservices[1632]: segfault at 279 ip 00007f282b104d5f sp 00007f2820ba1a78 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.6.2[7f282afe6000+276000]20:21
mfraz74that should be fixed in KDE 4.5, but I wouldn't recommend upgrading to that yet as it is still beta20:22
spawnthats my problem though??20:22
mfraz74have you looked here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111376.0 ?20:22
mfraz74i don't think the nepomukservices segfault has anything to do with the iphone, i used to get it too20:23
spawnyeah i totally read that...20:23
mfraz74have you tried on #amarok?20:23
spawnno not as yet20:24
mfraz74https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone20:25
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spawntried that one aswell :(20:26
spawnwell thanks for the help anyways man20:27
mfraz74not sure what else to suggest then, i don't have an iphone to try20:27
spawnthe last thing keeping me using windows...20:28
spawntrying to shake it off20:28
mfraz74all i can suggest is to ask in #amarok20:28
spawnok many thanks man20:29
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trupheenixcan anyone tell me why kopete ssl over jabber doesn't work?20:42
trupheenixor is every1 busy watchin the brazil match? :)20:42
draikHello everyone. Happy Father's Day for those to whom it applies.20:45
draikI have re-installed Kununtu 10.04 and I still do not get audio from VLC, Firefox or Kaffeine. Amarok, however, will play my music.20:47
draikI have a eee Box PC EB101 connected to my LCD TV via HDMI.20:48
draikI'm also working on fixing the font size on a few things.20:49
draikI can't use Synaptic becaue the font is too small for me to read. Not sure how this is affected with a small font size when all others are set to 28, 32 or 48.20:50
keffie_jayxhello all21:02
keffie_jayxI am having issues signing packages with kde and pinentry21:02
keffie_jayxthe dialog does nto show21:02
keffie_jayxnot21:03
keffie_jayxI check with ps ax | grep pinentry and I see it running21:03
keffie_jayx 4076 ?        RL     1:44 pinentry --display :0.021:04
keffie_jayxwhat could be wrong?21:04
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Freddy2hi21:15
Freddy2sometimes kde is getting frozen at splash screen, and only allows me to reboot or shutdown21:16
Freddy2which file can i check to look for the reason?21:16
Freddy2any kde log file?21:16
crykehello everybody!21:22
crykei want kde to mount my harddrive on startup without asking permission. how can i do that?21:22
Freddy2edit /etc/fstab21:23
crykeand how to do that using kde mount manager?21:24
Freddy2you mean mounting a static drive partition?21:25
crykeyes21:25
Freddy2never tried.. the common case is doing that in fstab, as always21:26
crykeok, i try21:26
Freddy2depending on the filesystem type you will need different options21:27
crykei know :) i mount ntfs partition.21:27
James147cryke: its easiest to use ntfs-config to add ntfs drives to /etc/fstab21:28
crykei thought that using internal functions of kde i can do that without editing /etc/fstab.21:28
crykenever heard about ntfs-config..21:29
James147cryke: it can be done through kde... but ntfs drives require a password to mount them... rather tehn trying to get it to do it without a password its much easier just to use ntfs-config as root21:30
Freddy2a password? what?21:31
crykeJames147: thanx, i understood21:31
babaluhello, what can i use instead of skype on kubuntu?21:38
James147!ekiga | babalu21:39
ubottubabalu: ekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga21:39
Machtinhm.. since about a week my kde is quite unstable, especially plasma.. any thoughts on that? (updates?)21:52
babaluthanks James147 i'll try that :)21:55
BiggFREEHi22:54
mario_helloooooooooooooooooo22:58
trakinashi all! I need to put my wifi on monitor mode, so I can use wireshark for a simple college work.23:00
trakinashowever, when I try to put it on monitor I receive this msg: wlanconfig: ioctl: Operation not supported23:00
trakinasthis is the command I tried: wlanconfig ath create wlandev wlan3 wlanmode monitor23:02
kubuntianohello, who helps me to install on my football menagerie kubuntu 64bit? Thanks23:17
DarthFrogDoes anyone know why krename only has a "Help" button and no "Settings" button?23:32
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harveyso.   how does one change the resolution in kubuntu?23:57

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