[00:23] Hi === krawek is now known as Guest27988 [00:29] Hi everyone, I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors... I tryed X -configure :1 and generated an xorg.conf file and I tried using it... Both monitors turn on (one of them was on standby) but they both only display a black screen... Here is my xorg,conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452232/ Can someone help me with this please ? === Aedh is now known as Guest33672 [01:20] hello [01:22] allo [01:27] Hi guys [01:27] can anyone can help with Netgear WG 311v3 Drivers Installation in Ubuntu 10.04 64 Bit | via ndiswrappers ? [01:27] ? [01:50] I accidentally removed my KDE "task bar" (the one that shows running tasks, clock, etc). What widget needs to be added to get it back? [01:59] i have a text file which i can not edit, need help [01:59] ilumi: Why can't you edit the file? [02:00] DarthFrog, i dont know, i try to type or paste stuff into it, and nothing happens [02:00] ilumi: What file? What editor? [02:01] DarthFrog, normal .txt file, it was made on linux, but i added the .txt later, and trying to edit with kate [02:02] Does kate load the file? [02:02] yeah it loads and displays it [02:02] What are the file's permissions? [02:03] DarthFrog, read and write on everything, my username as owner and group [02:04] So what happens when you try to save the file after editing it? [02:04] And please don't say "nothing". [02:04] :-) [02:04] well, i cant input any new characters [02:04] so i have to say nothing [02:04] So you can't edit the file? [02:04] Editing and saving are different operations. [02:05] when i hit save it prompts me to save as a new file [02:06] And can you do that? [02:06] yes but it doesnt save anything new, because i cant input anything [02:07] Nevermind that right now. Can you save the file as a copy of the original file? Can you edit & save the copy properly? [02:08] i can save the copy, but i cant edit the copy either [02:08] If so, edit the copy, save it then delete the original file and rename the copy to the name you want.. [02:08] Hmm. Bizarre. [02:08] If you can save the copy, then the file system is mounted rw. So that's out. [02:09] Kate will let you edit a file even if you can't save it [02:09] Can you open a terminal and type "lsattr is the name of the problem child. [02:09] I would guess that it's an encoding issue [02:09] but i can edit it with open office [02:10] And leave the terminal window open, cuz we're going to vi next. :-) [02:11] Here's an idea: install kwrite and see if that solves the problem. [02:11] lsattr shows -----------------e- 1.txt [02:11] Hey, can someone help me get my graphics card to work please? [02:12] Last time I tried I destroyed X and couldn't login [02:12] lol [02:12] Ezro, whats the problem [02:12] I want to play my game on a clean install of kubuntu, my graphics card is an 8600 GT [02:13] And I don't know what to do. [02:13] ilumi: The "..e" means that the file is using extents on the file system. But it is not marked immutable. [02:13] Last time I tried installing the driver from nvidia's page. [02:13] That just borked everything. [02:13] Ezro, you should be able to install a driver with the hardware drivers [02:14] option [02:14] The hardware drivers installed something weird last time [02:14] That didn't work [02:14] it should [02:14] should and does are two different things. :-) [02:14] DarthFrog, ok, not sure what that means [02:15] ilumi: Install kwrite and try that as an editor. [02:15] DarthFrog, ok will try thank you [02:16] ilumi: I see 3 options for NVIDIA: 173, 96 and current (recommended) [02:16] Do I just activate current and then restart? [02:16] Ezro, yup, wait for it to install === Rancid is now known as lol [02:17] Ezro: Don't go for current. [02:17] Why not? [02:17] Not with a card that old. [02:17] Try the 96 drivers first. [02:17] ? [02:20] Ezro, i say go for current, but you should fine out how to uninstall them from the command prompt, if you want to get back to the desktop when they dont work [02:23] DarthFrog, hey kwrite cant edit it either [02:24] ilumi: Do you know how to use vi? [02:24] DarthFrog, yes, do you know if there is a command to reset all permissions/ [02:25] Use "chmod" to change permissions [02:25] "chmod 660 " should be sufficient. [02:27] But before that, how about trying "ls -lah " and pasting the single line result here? [02:27] So I went with 96 first [02:27] And I rebooted into command prompt [02:28] DarthFrog, -rwxrwxrwx 1 ilumi ilumi 11K 2010-06-13 03:39 1.txt [02:28] What happens if you type "startx"? If it fails, what error is given by /var/log/Xorg.0.log. [02:28] ilumi: You don't need to reset those permissions. :-) that's wide open! [02:29] DarthFrog: Could not open the devile file /dev/nvidia0 [02:29] ilumi: That's 777 permissions. The file is set as excutable, BTW. [02:30] DarthFrog, yes, i unchecked executable, but i still cant edit [02:30] Ezro: Nuisance. Beyond me right now. But that's the scotch whiskey effect. :-) [02:31] Do you know how to get rid of the driver? [02:31] ilumi: Can you cut 'n paste the contents of the file into a new, empty file? [02:31] DarthFrog, and yes vi can also edit it [02:32] but not kate or kwrite :o( [02:32] ilumi: OK, so you can edit the file. Sounds like a bug with the KDE editors. [02:33] Ezro: What do you get from "dpkg --list | grep -i nvidia"? [02:34] nvidia-173-modaliases, nvidia-96, -96-modaliases, -common, -current, -current-modaliases [02:34] DarthFrog, yes, that works, its a bug, because that text file was created on arch i think [02:34] or some other distro [02:34] Ezro: Then "sudo apt-get remove --purge ", using those package names will get rid of them. [02:35] ilumi: A text file is a text file is a text file. [02:35] Or should be. [02:36] DarthFrog, it should be, its really annoying though [02:37] ilumi: If you can work around it, do so and get on with your life. That kind of stuff happens to me all the time and I can't be bothered getting my knickers in a knot over it. Pragmatism is preferable to perfection. [02:38] DarthFrog, yeah you right, i only have 2, but it could be a problem if someone has many [02:40] What do I do now [02:40] I can't get back into X [02:40] This is the same problem I had before [02:44] Anyone have any ideas on how to fix? [02:45] Ezro, uninstall the driver [02:46] I removed everything I could from that list. [02:46] And I still can't boot. [02:46] into X, that is [02:46] I can boot just fine [02:46] what did you remove? [02:46] and how [02:46] "sudo apt-get remove --purge" everything from "dpkg --list | grep -i nvidia" [02:48] i dont think thats a good way to remove it, you could remove some other files that are needed [02:49] Well [02:49] Darth told me to do that. [02:49] what you should have done is to search for nvidia, and it would tell you which packages were installed [02:49] and then remove the driver by name, nothing else [02:50] now search for nvidia [02:50] and install the latest driver [02:50] If I knew how to do any of those things, I would be using Gentoo. [02:50] then reboot [02:50] aptitude search nvidia [02:51] then aptitude install packagename [02:51] as sudo [02:52] sudo aptitude install packagename [02:53] There's a bunch of stuff from search nvidia [02:53] well look for the driver [02:53] you said 175 or something [02:54] I'm going to just get current. [02:56] ok [02:56] Ya, I just installed and rebooted [02:56] and X still won't start. [02:57] so type start x [02:57] start [02:57] x [02:57] damn [02:57] startX [02:57] I tried that and it didn't work [02:57] so open the log file that darth was talking about and see what it says [02:58] cd /etc/X11 [02:58] ls [02:58] vi or vim thelogfilename [02:58] or whatever else if you are on gnome [02:58] gedit [02:59] I think I'm done with this -_-" [03:00] As I said, if I wanted this work I'd just install Gentoo. [03:00] yeah its not easy to get along with linux [03:01] there used to be a command to reconfigure the xserver, but i think they got rid of it, [03:01] and i dont know how to reconfigure it now [03:02] and no one knows i guess [03:04] try ubuntu channel there are more people there [03:05] maybe someone knows [03:08] algun español? [03:08] Ezro, see if this command works - sudo dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg [03:08] SPANISH? [03:09] Ezro, or sudo nvidia-xconfig [03:09] !es [03:09] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [03:12] ilumi: Purging the nvidia packages isn't going to cause any problems that Ezro doesn't already have. At least now he doesn't have any stale files/drivers hanging around. [03:13] Ezro: Have you tried the nv driver? It'll give you X but not 3D. [03:21] Ezro: Is there a xorg.conf.failsafe file in /etc/X11? If so, then "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and reboot. [03:32] apparle: Are you still around? [03:32] draik: yup [03:32] Blueskaj: Are you still around? [03:33] apparle: Still no audio from Firefox or VLC [03:33] draik: :( I seriously don't know... what all have you tried [03:34] apparle: Everthing I've been given I've tried. I'm not sure what I could be missing to make this work. I have audio when I log in and when I use Amarok. [03:34] draik: ok try this, select the audio device as OSS in vlc [03:36] apparle: Just did it and it's not producing output [03:36] draik: did you restart vlc after that [03:37] apparle: Just did and still nothing [03:37] draik: no idea, then... [03:37] apparle: OK.Thanks for your help === heath is now known as ybit [04:07] draik, you have no sound? [04:36] hey anyone knows any freenode server listening at port 443 === joe__ is now known as TroubleClef [05:17] ilumi: Sorry, I had to step away. [05:17] ilumi: I have sound with Amarok, but not with VLC or Firefox [05:17] thats weird [05:18] you have pulse alsa or what [05:19] I have VLC set to Alsa right now. I don't have pulseaudio installed so I don't think that's an option [05:19] see if you have alsa-oss installed [05:20] I don't. Let me install it really quick [05:20] i dont know much about it, when i have sound problem i just install alsa and alsa-oss and things work [05:22] That didn't do anything for me [05:24] I restarted Firefox along with VLC; still no change [05:24] hi [05:35] hi [05:36] draik, i say uninstall and purge alsa and alsa oss then reinstall, and revert back if you did any changes in the players settings [05:57] ilumi: OK [05:58] thats all i know, [06:26] Hello. Did the latest updates to lucid kill knetworkmanager or is it just me? [06:26] I noticed solid was upgraded. [07:32] hi [07:32] how do i change my theme? i want everything to be glassified. how can i do this? [07:33] systemsettings -> appearance -> windows [07:33] choose the "aurorae" theme [07:34] er aurorae engine....thingy [07:34] and then use the Get New Themes (or whatever it is) button to get aurorae themes [07:34] aurorae is the glassy engine [07:35] maco: ok [07:35] maco: kde is so damn confusing [07:36] systemsettings could use some work, yeah.... it got some major reworking in kde 4.5 which'll be in 10.10 [07:39] can anyone tell me how to set different activities per desktop in kde 4.5? [07:48] maco: so weird [07:48] maco: why can't everything be consistent? i don't like so many options :( [07:48] maco: i changed the window appearance with aurora but it looks so bad now [07:48] maco: the widgets look out of place [07:50] i dont know... i dont use window decorations (i use xmonad not kwin) at all, so ive never played with that customization [07:51] bazhang: MY network is fucked again [07:51] Can you help? [07:54] Anybody here really. My network manager is showing the disconnected icon and whenever I right click I only get the 'network manager is disabled' option. I can't connect by LAN wither. I ran lshw and it said DISBALED next to network [07:54] How do I re-enable it? [07:55] Hey, can someone help me with my audio please? [07:56] Under the system settings -> multimedia, the test works fine [07:56] But I don't get any sound on my browser or on any program. [07:56] Lightning: have you got anything added to /etc/network/interfaces? [07:58] No [07:58] I just folowed a forum staff member's post on this service network-manager stop [07:58] rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state [07:58] service network-manager start [07:58] the commands start at service [08:02] Anyone know how to fix my problem? [08:04] Check your volume [08:04] -_- [08:04] http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9338814 [08:04] Might help. Just found it [08:06] And for anyone having the same problem as me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451064 [08:06] I think I fixed it [08:07] I had to update my software, I think lol [08:07] lol [08:07] Try it out then [08:07] Oh yay it's working aghain! [08:07] all you have to do is run: sudo rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state [08:09] Lightning: that's it? You don't have to restart network-manager? [08:14] <_jaldhar> Lightning: if you come back THANKS! I've been banging my head against this problem for a while now. [08:37] how do i get the battery plasmoid to show my how much time is remaining on my battery? === john-charles is now known as gkffjcs [09:55] こんにちは～ [11:00] is it possible to use Kate without it trying to write out config files etc.? or some other way to edit root or other user's files with Kate? [11:21] سلام يا عرب [11:40] amichair: ? [11:40] what do you want do ? [11:40] you wanna edit some files with kate like super user ? [11:40] Peace-: in particular, edit web files (user www-data) using Kate [11:40] create a laucher [11:41] Peace-: launcher? [11:41] Peace-: the problem is when kate starts it tries writing all sorts of .kde files under /var/www (in this case) and fails to start. Any way to run it without it trying to save config? [11:42] mmm [11:42] i think no [11:42] or maybe [11:42] just wait a second [11:43] no way [11:43] kate [-s, --start name] [-u, --use] [-p, --pid pid] [-e, --encoding name] [-l, --line line] [11:43] [-c, --column column] [-i, --stdin] [KDE Generic Options] [Qt Generic Options] [11:44] so it looks like I'm stuck with vi :-/ [12:04] where can i paste the console output? [12:05] !pastebin [12:05] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:12] what videocard i had to have, to get a smooth resizable windows in kde [12:13] now i am with integrated gf6100 and when try to resize windows i have to wait a little bit [12:15] hello, anyone here? [12:16] yes, just ask away. If someone can help, they will. [12:16] e01: well i think that's a really old nvidia card no ? [12:16] starslights: it`s not really new [12:17] but with compiz i get better results :( [12:18] ok, my question is whether i can assume that the time a cpu will need to access L2 Cache is constant. And the same with the main memory. I hope u understand what i mean [12:19] well devs will more able to answer than me but i have a 9600 or soemthink like that and to run all new features, it i don't see how old card can handle it if you don't disable some options, wait to have a good answer :P [12:20] kleopatra: it depends on the level of accuracy you need... you can always assume things if the assumptions give you good enough results :-) === SpaceMan_1 is now known as Space_Man [12:29] amichair: well some kind of difficult, i have a problem here where i want to point out that the time the computer needed to solve some problems depends on the Cachemisses, but the correlation coefficient isnt the way i expected it to be === jaz is now known as Guest60791 [12:38] kleopatra: in general, you can assume that each level of cache/RAM/disk has a different, more or less constant access time. Other than that, the question is too vague, and not really related to kubuntu. [12:39] amichair: i know its kinda ot but who can i ask? id like to join some channel for this problem but i dont know what to look for [12:41] kleopatra: I'm not sure myself where to ask about such topics [12:48] hi is there any plasmoid for korganizer? [13:27] howdy folks [13:27] hey BluesKaj [13:27] hi amichair [13:28] hi, how do i find out the proper channel names to use in a construct like 'qdbus org.kde.kmix /Mixer0 org.kde.KMix.increaseVolume Line:0'? [13:32] how do i get the plasma notes widgit for the latest kubuntu? [14:11] hi [14:40] !chrome [14:41] why is chrome not in the lucid reps? [14:42] poyntz, you may be looking for chromium-browser [14:42] ty baz [14:42] !info chromium-browser [14:42] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.375.38~r46659-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 (lucid), package size 11558 kB, installed size 38424 kB [14:42] gah [14:42] i needed something else :S [14:42] was just wondering how I can get flash to work fully [14:42] in chrome that is [14:43] but it applies to konqueror as well [14:43] so i'm thinking it's the flash package [14:43] poyntz: do you have it installed? (flashplugin-installer) [14:43] yep. the latest [14:44] i could give you the address of the page i'm struggling with, but you'll need to register an account to see it [14:44] *webpage [14:46] how do i drag windows across desktops? [14:48] trupheenix: cant remember where it is in 4.4 (they are moving things around in 4.5 :S) but its in system settings > Window behavoiur> Screen edge > "Switch desktop on edge" [14:48] how do i drag windows aross desktops [14:49] re [14:50] slow-motion: ? [14:50] your method doesn't work for the latest version of kde i think tru [14:50] poyntz: why ? :'( [14:51] poyntz: it was so easy under gnome just drag it and the cube spun around [14:51] not sure but i just tried myself to verify and the option wasn't there [14:51] lol [14:51] i set it on the last version [14:51] * trupheenix hates kde [14:51] so i don't have the problem [14:51] :) [14:51] will switch back to lxde [14:51] but yeah true, it should be a default [14:51] poyntz: I still ahve the option in kde 4.5 beta so it should still be on 4.4 [14:51] was no frills but worked [14:52] just they keep moving it around :) [14:52] James147: strange. I promise I've got no option called 'screen edge' in window behaviour :/ [14:52] poyntz: on kde 4.5 beta? its in a different place on 4.4 [14:53] James147: i'm on the kubuntu lucid, not quite sure how to check my kde version :/ [14:53] i'd give you the specifics if i could [14:54] poyntz: any kde application > help > about KDE [14:54] i'm on 4.4.2 [14:55] so this is strange :/ [14:55] poyntz: yeah, they you have the option, its jsut not in the same place... but i cant remember where it is exatly [14:55] poyntz: might be under desktop :S [14:55] i'm trying that lol [14:55] i'm fine. i've already enabled :) [14:56] i'm just trying to help tru out [14:57] trupheenix: try this: Desktop -> Screen Edges -> and select 'Always Enabled' from the drop down menu next to "Switch desktop on edge' [14:58] trupheenix: then click Apply [14:59] trupheenix: did you get that? [14:59] poyntz: nope [14:59] poyntz: got disconnected [14:59] trupheenix: try this: Desktop -> Screen Edges -> and select 'Always Enabled' from the drop down menu next to "Switch desktop on edge' [14:59] trupheenix: then click Apply [15:00] poyntz: found [15:00] :) [15:00] poyntz: kde needs to take lessons from gnome in simplicity of UI [15:00] poyntz: kde is like windoz [15:00] agreed [15:00] poyntz: too many options [15:00] poyntz: ultimate confusion [15:01] poyntz: gnome is like mac. simple and clean. [15:01] lol. i like it cause it's sexy [15:01] poyntz: yet powerful [15:01] but i have to disagree with windows vs mac [15:01] to me mac is really complicated [15:01] and windows is really simple [15:01] but i agree with you on the kde vs gnome comparison [15:02] I dont find kdes settings that complicated... they have been moving things around abit too much :) but usually for a good reason [15:03] James147: i think he's talking about 'systems settings' specifically [15:03] James147: it's difficult to know what fits under desktop and window behaviour [15:03] poyntz: as am I :S [15:03] James147: not sure if there's a tutorial anywhere either [15:03] James147: also the fact they keep changing stuff around doesn't help :P [15:04] James147: obviously u don't use any apple products or gnome [15:04] James147: start using and u will find simplicity [15:04] poyntz: they have been looking at that and are moving things to where they are more suited... as why that setting is now under window behavoiur (also they got rid of the advanced tab)( [15:04] James147: their UIs are much simpler and organized than kde [15:04] James147: but KDE is sexy no doubt :) looks damn good [15:04] trupheenix: I found they ui too restrictive and I couldent find some of the option i wanted (they didnt exist) [15:05] trupheenix: i disagree somewhat and agree somewhat [15:05] poyntz James147: well yea true [15:05] poyntz: James147 but simplicity rules for most people [15:05] trupheenix: i find with all the right settings enabled the kde interface is a lot better for window management etc. [15:05] trupheenix: and you have to keep in mind that kde 4 is fairly new and evolving rapidly, they move things to better locations every verssion (which is anoying at the time but better in the future) [15:06] trupheenix: also i favour the programs that come preinstalled with kde over the default gnome ones [15:06] poyntz: same here [15:06] poyntz: one of the thinks i like about gnome is the absence of an apply button. u choose an option and it gets applied. u can actually see how it will look like. incase u don't like it u can press cancel and it's gone! :) [15:06] poyntz: about the only window managmet option I hanve is the "click to focus" setting [15:06] i have changed ^^ [15:07] poyntz: personally i think empathy or pidgin are much better options than kopete. [15:07] poyntz: quassel irc is nice [15:07] trupheenix: true. the thing is competing OSs / window manager teams have a tendency to want to make things quite different from each other. Take windows/mac for example and how mac puts the minimise/close buttons on the left, but windows puts them on the right [15:07] James147: true. the thing is competing OSs / window manager teams have a tendency to want to make things quite different from each other. Take windows/mac for example and how mac puts the minimise/close buttons on the left, but windows puts them on the right [15:08] trupheenix: sorry my last message to you was supposed to be for James147 :P [15:09] poyntz: I just like the fact you can change most the settings you dont like in kde (unlike in windows.. at least not easily) [15:09] James147: i agree with u [15:09] James147: KDE is more customizable than GNOME. [15:09] James147: but that makes it more complex [15:10] James147: definitely agree there. also because of the slim nature of the linux applications. kde provides a fast alternative to the windows environment [15:10] trupheenix: of which i can live with.. I prefure having my desktop exatly how I want rather then almost exatly how I want but having a cleaner settings ui in return (which I dont ahve to look at once I have set the settings) [15:10] James147: also love the wabbly windows and they ability to get rid of Alt+Tabbing [15:11] *the [15:11] even though i personally think KDE is a royal mess. i must admit that the community is excellent. u guys have the best attitude and knowledge. i hardly find anyone to speak to on the gnome or gtk channels. [15:11] not to mention the quick Alt+F2 search feature (which looks for things on the Internet for us :D) [15:12] poyntz: i love alt+f2 [15:12] poyntz: just love it [15:12] :) [15:12] but unfortunately not there in gnome [15:12] also widgets are great [15:12] you can make things so customizable [15:12] and it's all preinstalled [15:12] poyntz: yes it's there. there is an alt+f2 [15:12] poyntz: i like the fact it have an inbuit calcualtor and spell checker as well :) but I think this is getting a bit off topic now we should move to #kubuntu-offtopic [15:13] true [15:13] why has plasma-notes been removed from the reps? [15:13] and is it still compatible with the latest kde environment? [15:14] maybe i'm thinking plasma-widgit-notes [15:14] poyntz: widgets are under plasma-widgets-* [15:16] James147: I tried but can't see notes there :/ [15:16] it was in kde 4.3 [15:16] came preinstalled too [15:18] poyntz: I think "notes" might be in the core widgets, can you not find it in "add widgets"? (its here and was preinstalled on mine) [15:19] any one know how to change the K icon in the launcher? i want to put a Kubuntu Icon [15:20]