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drizzt_why package maintainers never update translations? even there was no release in last years, somebody could contribute new or updated translations, but they are never checked for nor updated in package05:13
micahgdrizzt_: probably depends how the translations are packaged05:16
micahgdrizzt_: what package?05:16
drizzt_*most* universe packages have missing or outdated translations comparing to project's trunk or whichever upstream it use05:16
micahgdrizzt_: are upstream packaging the translations in the tarballs?05:18
drizzt_usually they do not backport translations to the release version packaged in Ubuntu, but they usually include it in trunk or recent development version05:22
micahgdrizzt_: well, we take the versions in the release we package generally05:23
micahgdrizzt_: and universe is community maintained, so if there's a package that you'd like to have a new version, you can work on it05:24
anotengI've got two packages I'd like to have reviewed by a motu. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/python-easygui bug #596406, and http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/transgui bug #33206706:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 596406 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] EasyGUI" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59640606:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 332067 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] transmission-remote-gui" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33206706:43
ScottKanoteng: For python-easygui, you might consider packaging it for Debian and having it sync'ed into Ubuntu.  The Debian Python Modules Team is very open to Ubuntu people and sponsoring new Python packages.  See #debian-python on OFTC network.07:33
ScottKHonestly your odds are better there.07:33
anotengScottK, I'm already looking into it, thanks. I'd still like a review though, as I'm kind of new to this, and probably did something wrong...07:35
ScottKThey don't expect you to be an expert when you show up there, so no need to wait.07:36
ScottKYou'll get more and better reviews there.07:36
ScottKWe get hugely more package requests than we can review each cycle.07:36
anotengok, thanks.07:40
dupondjeHow can I upgrade a package to the newest upstream version? The package is not in debian (so no merge/sync)09:20
micahgdupondje: is there a watch file?09:34
jmarsdendupondje: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Updating%20an%20Ubuntu%20Package for the basic idea.09:36
dupondjehttp://ubuntu.dupondje.be/pybootchartgui.debdiff09:37
dupondjeit looks ok ?09:37
micahgdupondje: you might want to ask the maintainer09:40
BlackZzul: could you please take a look at bug #595520 ?09:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 595520 in dspam (Ubuntu) "Please merge dspam 3.6.8-9.3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59552009:46
dupondjemicahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pybootchartgui/+bug/59647509:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 596475 in pybootchartgui (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to upstream version r141" [Undecided,New]09:46
dupondjeand subscribed the maintainer :)09:46
micahgdupondje: k09:47
dupondjecan you set it to Wishlist btw ?09:47
micahgdupondje: sure09:47
BlackZdupondje: why is it '0+r141' rather than '0+r141ubuntu1' ?09:48
micahgBlackZ: native Ubuntu package09:48
BlackZah, true09:49
BlackZmicahg: good luck for the DMB :P09:49
micahgBlackZ: thanks :)09:49
micahgBlackZ: you too09:52
BlackZmicahg: heh, thanks!09:53
riccetnIs there any MOTU that can review my package of clementine (Music player): http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/clementine10:22
* drizzt_ thinks that we have enough gstreamer-based music players already10:57
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ari-tczewplease unsubscribe ubuntu-sponsors from bug 58257613:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 582576 in php-htmlpurifier (Ubuntu Karmic) "XSS in HTML purifier 3.0.0 and 4.0.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58257613:37
ari-tczewcan someone tell me whether it's necessary change: Update Maintainer field as per spec  ? bug 230350 for example13:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230350 in sapphire (Ubuntu) "Missing Debian Maintainer field" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23035013:40
sebnerari-tczew: unsubscribed13:47
sebnerari-tczew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField13:50
ari-tczewsebner: thanks for unsubscribe. and what about this maintainer field?14:27
sebnerari-tczew: I thought that would answer your question if it's necessary to change the maintainer field14:28
ari-tczewsebner: I asked whether it's necessary14:28
sebnerari-tczew: well, as the wiki page suggests, every time you modify a debian package that was unchanged before, you have to update the maintainer field14:29
ari-tczewif there is no delta, package is synced from Debian, so don't change maintainer field14:29
ari-tczewsebner: still don't understand.14:29
sebnerari-tczew: right, I don't understand what you don't understand ^^14:30
tumbleweedari-tczew: if you modify the package, you update-maintainer. If you sync, the maintainer update is done automatically, on build.14:32
tumbleweed(and I can't see https://launchpad.net/bugs/230350 due to lp timeouts)14:32
ari-tczewsebner, tumbleweed: sorry bugs, I have you wrong bug number. let14:32
ari-tczewlet check bug 30085814:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300858 in hp-ppd (Ubuntu) "Please merge hp-ppd 0.9-0.1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30085814:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230350 in sapphire (Ubuntu) "Missing Debian Maintainer field" [Wishlist,Fix released]14:33
BlackZari-tczew: what's the problem there?14:33
tumbleweedBlackZ: no need to mention maintainer update in changelog14:34
ari-tczewyea14:34
tumbleweed(also, that bug's description could use an update)14:35
BlackZtumbleweed: I think that's not a big deal14:35
tumbleweedBlackZ: not at all14:35
ari-tczewBlackZ: and bug number in debian/changelog is wrong14:35
BlackZari-tczew: as you can see, it's a merged change14:36
tumbleweedBlackZ: however, you didn't close LP: #30085814:37
BlackZforgot about that, sorry14:37
ari-tczew:]14:38
ari-tczewplease check package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtx/1.3.12-3ubuntu114:38
tumbleweedyeah, mom should add some boilerplate for closing the merge bug (although I guess people would forget to fill it out)14:39
ari-tczewRemaining changes: update maintainer according to spec.14:39
BlackZari-tczew: it's not a big deal, as I said14:39
ari-tczewI think that it's wrong14:39
ari-tczewBlackZ: what do you mean "not a big deal" ?14:40
BlackZari-tczew: it's not so wrong14:40
ari-tczewI don't understand a remaining change as update maintainer field14:40
BlackZif I found it in the changelog I'd merge it14:40
tumbleweedari-tczew: I agree, that could have been a sync.14:40
tumbleweedthere are some other minor changes, though14:41
BlackZbut as tumbleweed as said, it could be a merge if there aren't other changes14:41
ari-tczewzul: ping for above case ^^14:41
BlackZs/as/has14:41
tumbleweedari-tczew: it can't be synced now. ubuntu has never version than debian14:41
ari-tczewtumbleweed: I know. I want to talk zul for now merging this package due to update maintainer field14:42
ari-tczewin future14:42
ari-tczews/now/not14:42
ari-tczewBlackZ: "it could be a merge if there aren't other changes" what you mean?14:43
ari-tczewmaybe sync instead merge?14:43
BlackZs/merge/sync14:43
ari-tczew:]14:43
BlackZhowever in my case the sponsor could modify the changelog for remove that if it's considered "wrong" :)14:44
dupondjetons of merge/sync requests it seems in the MoM :)14:45
ari-tczewBlackZ: +1. he should upload next XubuntuY with information, that package doesn't need to be merged. no delta14:46
tumbleweedari-tczew: the description was changed - there is a delta14:47
ari-tczewtumbleweed: question of importance of description14:48
ari-tczewand why he doesn't include information about it in debian/changelog14:48
tumbleweed:)14:49
ari-tczewomg, what a mess https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ilohamail/0.8.14-0rc3ubuntu414:55
BlackZtumbleweed: fixed, thank you15:05
tumbleweedBlackZ: um, is it just me or has debian fixed your hp-ppd issue? (They run that script with bash)15:10
BlackZno tumbleweed, seems it's not fixed at all15:11
tumbleweedBlackZ: ok how about "it builds fine for me on maverick"15:11
BlackZtumbleweed: doesn't it?15:11
tumbleweedno I'm saying it does15:11
BlackZtumbleweed: ah, ok15:12
tumbleweedubuntu's solution was to remove bashisms, debian's was to run "bash install.sh"15:12
tumbleweedlooks syncable to me15:12
BlackZtumbleweed: in case I will follow up the bug15:15
ari-tczewNCommander: why did you upload package in version ubuntu4? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ilohamail/0.8.14-0rc3ubuntu415:21
ari-tczewah, previous package uploaded in ubuntu3, then you removed old ubuntuX15:22
ari-tczewsebner: could you take sponsorship for me @ bug 596577 ?15:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 596577 in ilohamail (Ubuntu) "Merge ilohamail 0.8.14-0rc3sid6.1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59657715:46
ScottKstatik: You've got a couple of python packages sitting on REVU for almost a year.  Are you still interested in them?16:32
ari-tczewjames_w: why package pyexiv2 doesn't have created branch? https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyexiv216:37
slytherinNow that we support 3.0 formats, we should ideally switch to .orig.tar.bz2 if upstream releases bz2, right? After all every byte of saved storage space counts.17:21
micahgslytherin: usually, depends if backports lower than lucid are needed17:22
micahg*archive backports/updates17:23
slytherinThe package in question is gstreamer plugins package. I don't think they are backported frequently.17:24
micahgslytherin: sounds right17:26
shadeslayer_any MOTU around to review my REVU upload?17:30
shadeslayer_hi any MOTU to advocate my package here : http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=831919:30
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NorthernLightsHello all20:12
NorthernLightsHello all20:17
* NorthernLights is poking for a check of REVU packages synergy-plus and killrogues20:17
tumbleweedNorthernLights: hi. I (stefanor) was just commenting on your synergy-plus package. Looks good to me. But I'd liek to see it in Debian too :)20:18
* tumbleweed uses synergy between debian and Ubuntu20:18
NorthernLightsHi there20:18
NorthernLightsSure, as I was answering on launchpad, i want to do this too. I was waiting to get into Ubuntu first, to avoid having to ask twice as much to review my package.20:19
NorthernLightsAnd I'd like to give the Ubuntu process a chance20:19
shadeslayer_NorthernLights: could you please check my package too? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=831920:35
NorthernLightsok20:35
shadeslayer_thanks :)20:36
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shadeslayer_NorthernLights: ok ill clean that up :)20:44
shadeslayer_i did put the section as net,then checked p.u.c and saw it was network.. so changed it20:45
shadeslayer_NorthernLights: also if upstream doesnt ship with a copy right year,do i put in this year?20:47
ScottKshadeslayer_: Just copy/paste was upstream shipped.20:47
tumbleweedshadeslayer_: stefanor is me, not NorthernLights :)20:49
shadeslayer_ohhh20:49
shadeslayer_tumbleweed: :P20:49
NorthernLightsaaaah ok! Thanks, i was wondering if i pushed the submit button by mistake20:49
shadeslayer_hehe :)20:50
shadeslayer_tumbleweed: does : You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License20:52
shadeslayer_    along with QIpMsg. If not, see "/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3". sound ok?20:52
tumbleweedfine fine20:58
shadeslayer_ok fixed most stuff ... will make the rules changes later ....20:59
shadeslayer_ciao :)21:00
NorthernLightsshadeslayer_, i'm adding a comment too21:06
NorthernLights(basically, "run lintian :)")21:06
NorthernLights(i'm building the binary package to make sure it works)21:10
ari-tczewlool: check your e-mail's inbox. libsmbios's maintainer has Cced message to you about libsmbios package handling23:12
sebnerari-tczew: well, either you wait until wednesday (quite some stuff to do for university) or you ask someone else aka just wait for someone to sponsor it, and it's a bzw branch too .. brrrr :P23:21
ari-tczewsebner: sorry, I forgot about your issue23:22
ari-tczewsebner: I want to see grow of bug numbers sponsored. besides you I'm going block some bugs on 2 other sponsors23:23
ari-tczewsebner: maybe you should take some lessons about bzr sponsoring?23:23
sebnerari-tczew: bah let me push that back for maverick +1 :P23:24
ari-tczewsebner: why +1?23:24
ari-tczewinstead maverick 0 :d23:24
sebnerari-tczew: well, DIF is around and I think bzr sponsoring will become more stable and more common for maverick+123:25
micahgari-tczew: people have limited time, I had a great idea I ran a session for at UDS that I have to push off till maverick +123:25
* sebner ^5 micahg 23:26
ari-tczewmicahg: so you won't work anymore in maverick+1? correct translated?23:27
sebnerari-tczew: deal: I sponsor your non-bzr stuff and I might get into this bzr stuff in my summer holidays23:27
micahgari-tczew: no, I just have my own list of things, so this other one has to wait23:27
ari-tczewsebner: I think that you can download a bzr diff from bug and patch -p1 it on current ubuntu's package23:28
sebnerari-tczew: I could but that goes against the sense of having a bzr branch and do bzr sponsoring ;)23:29
ari-tczewsebner: so do you will sponsor it only by debdiff and soon in wednesday?23:30
sebnerari-tczew: well, keep ubuntu sponsors subscribed and if nobody has sponsored it until then I'll do it23:31
ari-tczewsebner: ok I'll talk with other sponsors who has not enough sponsored bugs for me23:32
sebnerari-tczew: so I guess you won't apply tomorrow? (You once told me something about the 22th)23:32
ari-tczewsebner: no, later23:33
ari-tczewsebner: not ready now23:33
sebnerkk23:36
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