[01:33] <Technophil> Can someone tell me the menu steps to find and put  mythfilldatabase arguments please?   Its not at setup / general or setup / TV settings / general ...wheres it gone?
[01:41] <Technophil> Actually seems I can set it at mythweb/settings/mythtv
[05:14] <qwebirc66766> mythvideo stopped playing videos about a week or so ago.  has something been borked upstream or is it on my end?  I get the "Please wait..." screen then it just bounces me back to mythvideo rather than playing the selected video\
[05:27] <miststlkr> .. or if someone might point out which log to dig through, I could use a pointer, please.
[07:00] <tgm4883> miststlkr, i'd check the logs at /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log
[09:04] <Bazil_> i use ssh to control my myhtbuntu , but i get annoyed having to use sudo al the time, is there a way that my login could be sudo al the time when connecting from a specific computer or something ?
[12:59] <Guest32721> I have mythbuntu BE and FE last night I enabled vnc on the BE in the Mythbuntu control centre
[12:59] <Guest32721> Today I would to log in from my FE
[12:59] <Guest32721> how can I do this?
[13:17] <rileyp> bump
[14:28] <sircolin> rileyp are you trying to vnc over the internet or just trying to connect the front end to the backend ?
[14:45] <rileyp> i have it working
[14:45] <rileyp> it was ssh -x
[14:45] <rileyp> can I bring up a remote desktop?
[14:46] <rileyp> im at home mythtv be server in shed
[14:46] <rileyp> im next to heater in living room :D
[14:46] <rileyp> at FE mythbuntu
[14:48] <rileyp> I can bring up the mythtv-setup which was of most interest to me but a remote desktop would also be nice
[15:34] <sebrock_> how would I install mythbackend only on a ubuntu server? It ist apt-get install mythbackend... is everything included?
[16:01] <mrand> sebrock_: MCC is easiest, but ifyou're doing it manually, I believe the main package is mythtv-backend-master
[16:01] <mrand> master backend requires a database.
[16:17] <sebrock_> mrand, what is MMC?
[16:23] <mrand> mythbuntu control centre
[16:24] <mrand> that is a separate package that you can install.
[16:30] <stuartm> has anyone reported the issue with the version of Date::Manip that Ubuntu recently pushed? It breaks xmltv
[16:37] <stuartm> and it broke mythweather ... whichever perl packager pushed that update to a stable release needs a slap ;)
[16:51] <mrand> stuartm: yes, I reported it.  It was fixed last week in trunk.  Here's to hoping it doesn't get forgot for backporting!
[16:51] <mrand> mythtv trunk, that is.
[16:52] <stuartm> the mythweather issue was fixed, I'm checking the latest version of xmltv
[16:53] <stuartm> yup, seems fixed in latest xmltv
[16:54] <stuartm> superm1, Daviey: Can we get the latest xmltv into the repos?
[16:55] <mrand> I guess you're talking about something different than I am.
[16:57] <stuartm> mrand: two different bugs, both caused by the changes to Date::Manip, the xmltv one is more serious since it prevents guide data collection and if you failed to notice, say because you'd gone on holiday, then it meant no recordings
[16:57] <mrand> Oops, I read the xmltv part, but it didn't register.  I follow you now.
[16:59] <stuartm> I've stunningly bad luck, two seperate mythtv backends, one failed to record anything last week because of a driver issue - but as bad as that was, at least some of the recordings were duplicated on the other backend - or that should have been the case, but nothing at all recorded because it ran out of guide data
[17:01] <stuartm> for two independent backends to fail the exact same week despite months of uninterrupted service ... maybe that's more than bad luck :(
[17:23] <superm1> stuartm, well that depends on a few variables; it's much more preferable to backport patches
[17:23] <superm1> are there some bugs filed already?
[17:27] <superm1> and are there particular commits that we can backport?
[17:32] <superm1> oh wait i see what you're saying - an SRU to date::manip caused xmltv to break
[17:34] <superm1> stuartm, according to https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdate-manip-perl there hasn't been any updates to it since 10.04 launched
[17:34] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net] “libdate-manip-perl” package : Ubuntu
[17:35] <superm1> but it looks like at mythweather is fixed by mrand's patch http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8466
[17:35] <Zinn> [svn.mythtv.org]            #8466 (version 6.x of Date::Manip perl module breaks some compatibility with 5.x)      – MythTV
[17:35] <superm1> stuartm, would you mind backporting that to 0.23-fixes?
[17:38] <superm1> and it looks like the xmltv bug is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmltv/+bug/544522 which Daviey is supposed to be working out (it's assigned to him)
[17:38] <Zinn> [bugs.edge.launchpad.net] Bug #544522 in xmltv (Ubuntu): “[lucid] latest version of Date::Manip breaks tv_grab_uk_rt ”
[17:42] <stuartm> superm1: seems it was a combination of the Date::Manip update and the change to daylight savings time (BST) and maybe some other factors since it's only stopped working recently and the changeover was in March!
[17:42] <stuartm> I'll backport the mythweather patch asap, meanwhile an update to xmltv 0.5.57 fixes that
[17:59] <miststlkr> mythvideo stopped playing videos about a week or so ago.  has something been borked upstream or is it on my end?  I get the "Please wait..." screen then it just bounces me back to mythvideo rather than playing the selected video.   starting to dig through the mythfrontend.log file to see if i can figure it out, but is anyone else having the issue?  not sure if it is related, but it happened [almost?] the same time I installed
[17:59] <miststlkr> mythvideo stopped playing videos about a week or so ago.  has something been borked upstream or is it on my end?  I get the "Please wait..." screen then it just bounces me back to mythvideo rather than playing the selected video.   starting to dig through the mythfrontend.log file to see if i can figure it out, but is anyone else having the issue?  not sure if it is related, but it happened [almost?] the same time I installed
[18:01] <stuartm> not aware of any known issues upstream
[18:01] <stuartm> is this with 0.23 or trunk?
[18:02] <miststlkr> sorry, it's on .23; a 10.04 install with whatever updates have been pushed since but no trunk or such
[18:03] <miststlkr> I'd say it has been about a week or possibly two, if you haven't heard about it by now then it is on my side
[18:07] <miststlkr> a ton of SG(HOSTNAME) not available. lines, looks like all of the videos got one ata  rough glance.
[18:11] <tgm4883> miststlkr, pastebin your frontend logs
[18:11] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[18:11] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[18:28] <miststlkr> pasting now, I'll have you a link in a sec
[18:29] <miststlkr> here you go, gents.. http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/yyhJDK9p
[18:34] <miststlkr> part of that was from tring to load a theme that no longer works with .23, I guess i should have just made a new session with it's own log to see what is actually happening now rather than bog you down in all of that stuff, but thought it it was something thnat happened a while back when this started you might be able to see it in there
[18:41] <miststlkr> meh, wife is up, may have to take off for a bit.  any hhelp would be greatly appreciated, even if I can't reply right away
[18:45] <stuartm> miststlkr: the key is "IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP Error", it's a network problem, maybe configured with the wrong IP or another application has already opened a socket on the mythtv port (sure there aren't two instances of the backend running?)
[18:49] <miststlkr> FE/BE are on the same system.   could that be caused by another FE being connected?  This started [around?] the same time I installed a wiondows port of the frontend to connect tot hat
[18:49] <miststlkr> to that backend
[18:50] <miststlkr> stupid netbook keyboard.. my fingers are too fat for this thing  :-P
[18:58] <miststlkr> or might that be caused if two frontends were run off that same system perhaps?
[18:58] <stuartm> no, it will only happen if two backends were on the same system (and ports)
[18:58] <stuartm> and a second frontend shouldn't cause it
[18:59] <stuartm> run netstat -atunp
[19:05] <stuartm> and recheck those IPs - 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address, but you said there was another remote frontend? You need an external IP for that to work
[19:06] <stuartm> external == 192.168.*.* or 10.10.*.*
[19:07] <stuartm> although re-reading, that might just be trying to fallback to localhost because it can't connect to 192.168.1.26
[19:07] <stuartm> also configure or disable any firewalls which might be interfering
[19:07] <miststlkr> hm... where do you see that?  *.26 is the IP of the system that is running on;  should it be defaulting to localhost or the actual IP of it?
[19:08] <miststlkr> getting you a pastebin now
[19:08] <miststlkr> I had tried to get another frontend working and never did... apparently the port hasn't worked since .21
[19:09] <stuartm> the windows port has worked with every release afaik
[19:09] <stuartm> well 0.22 and 0.23
[19:09] <miststlkr> I've been talking with Mark Davidoff, he said mythvideo hasn't worked since .21
[19:10] <miststlkr> either way, I am having the same issue with that FRONTEND AS THE ONE ON THE MAIN BOX, SO I AM HOPING THAT IF I FIX THE MAIN BOX MAYBE THAT ONE WILL FOLLOW SUIT
[19:10] <miststlkr> damned small keys, sorry.. need to get used to proofreading...
[19:11] <stuartm> well it's news to me, but I don't follow the windows support very closely
[19:12] <miststlkr> *shrug*   who knows.  so the results of the netstat are at http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d2XM6bKv
[19:14] <stuartm> grab the latest 0.23-fixes and then restart the machine, it looks like it's run out of sockets, a known bug which has been fixed
[19:14] <miststlkr> I don't see anything there out of the ordinary, but not entirely sure what the myth parts should look like
[19:14] <stuartm> all of those CLOSE_WAIT are dead sockets
[19:15] <miststlkr> alright.  I just did a reboot before posting that, actually.   I'll have synaptic get the newest .23-fixes now
[19:16] <sebrock_> what is the best way to install the backend only on a headless ubuntu server?
[19:18] <miststlkr> stuartm, according to synaptic i already have 0.23.0+fixes24158-0ubuntu2 which it says is the latest
[19:19] <stuartm> it's not, that's not even 0.23, it's 0.23 RC2
[19:20] <stuartm> miststlkr: you need to enable the update repos for mythbuntu
[19:20] <stuartm> afaik it can be done through the mythbuntu control centre
[19:20] <miststlkr> hrm.. i thought I had.. must not have.. let me take care of that.  sorry
[19:22] <superm1> stuartm, it can be done from the control centre only after you activate it on the website (tgm is looking into messaging this better ot people though from the control centre)
[19:22] <superm1> website eg http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[19:23] <miststlkr> superm1 thanks, hitting the site now
[19:26] <miststlkr> stuartm, stick with .23 for now, yeah?  apparently I'm not familiar enough with the system to deal with a pre-release I'm thinking....
[19:27] <superm1> miststlkr, i would recommend sticking with 0.23, yeah
[19:30] <miststlkr> alright, daily builds enabled and updating.   thanks for the help.
[19:35] <miststlkr> stuarm, superm1, you guys are always incfredibly helpful, thanks for your time.  updating now and I'll see what happens.   either way, thanks for the help.
[19:37] <miststlkr> [[and tgm4883, didn't mean to leave you out :-D]]
[19:50] <miststlkr> updated, installed, rebooted and hit "c
[19:50] <miststlkr> hit "scan for changes" which seems to have frozen at 6%, I'll give it some time
[20:01] <miststlkr> staurtm alright, scan for changes done and tried to play a video, no change.   I'll pull/post a new frontend.log
[20:04] <miststlkr> frontend.log with today's enrties only: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/qadt5j9e
[20:06] <miststlkr> netstat still shows a list full of close_wait ports
[20:06] <stuartm> what version are you now on?
[20:06] <stuartm> mythfrontend --version
[20:07] <miststlkr> 25138
[20:08] <miststlkr> MythTV Version   : 25138 MythTV Branch    : branches/release-0-23-fixes Network Protocol : 56 Library API      : 0.23.201000617-1 QT Version       : 4.6.2 Options compiled in:  linux debug using_oss using_alsa using_pulse using_jack using_pulseoutput using_backend using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_glx_proc_addr_arb using_hdhomerun using_hdpvr using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libudev using_lirc using
[20:08] <miststlkr> oops, sorry
[20:08] <stuartm> hmm, I've no idea then, you might try #mythtv-users, there are some more experienced people in there generally
[20:09] <stuartm> that came out wrong, what I meant to say is that there are more people in there, so more chance of finding someone who understands the problem
[20:10] <miststlkr> LOL.  thought the comment a bit odd.   thanks for trying though
[20:14] <mrand> there are a higher quantity of experienced people in there :-)
[20:15] <mrand> And possibly people with more experience with the exact problem you are seeing
[20:22] <miststlkr> looks like not at the moment, but I'll keep at it..... or just reinstall.... was planning to migrate to a new system in the next month or so anyway... i suppose i could live without it till then
[21:04] <miststlkr> stuartm looks like the issue is in the mythbackend.log; line 11 says "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"  I have to run out for a bit, but I'll start digging on that when i get home.   Thanks again for the time and help