[00:00] <electrofreak> ne7work: I believe 'apt-get install linux-source' will figure out what version you need.
[00:07] <ne7work> i need kernel-source
[00:07] <ne7work> nvidia installer says me this..
[00:07] <ne7work> i install linux-source
[00:07] <ne7work> how to install kernel-source?
[00:07] <electrofreak> ne7work: I believe 'apt-get install linux-source' will figure out what version you have right now
[00:08] <malchias> does uname -r help?
[00:08] <ne7work> electrofreak, how to see?
[00:08] <ne7work> with upgrade?
[00:09] <ne7work> one moment
[00:09] <ne7work> ..
[00:09] <ne7work> electrofreak, this is for linux-source 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:10] <electrofreak> ne7work: what is the output of 'uname -r'?
[00:10] <ne7work> electrofreak, 2.6.28-19-server
[00:11] <electrofreak> try apt-get install linux-server-2.6.28-19-server
[00:11] <malchias> you can use `uname -r` in cases like that too
[00:11] <ne7work> E: Couldn't find package linux-server-2.6.28-19-server
[00:11] <electrofreak> try apt-get install linux-server-2.6.28
[00:11] <electrofreak> er
[00:11] <electrofreak> try apt-get install linux-source-2.6.28
[00:12] <ne7work> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:12] <electrofreak> try apt-get install linux-source-2.6.28
[00:12] <ne7work> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:12] <ne7work>   dvd+rw-tools libao2 cdrdao portmap
[00:12] <electrofreak> try apt-get install linux-source-2.6.28-19-server
[00:12] <malchias> linux-source-`uname -r` ?
[00:12] <ne7work> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.28-19-server
[00:13] <ne7work> ne7work@ne7work:~$ linux-source-`uname -r`
[00:13] <ne7work> bash: linux-source-2.6.28-19-server: command not found
[00:13] <ne7work> ne7work@ne7work:~$
[00:13] <malchias> linux-headers-`uname -r`, lol, you have to type apt-get install :)
[00:13] <ne7work> linux-headers-`uname -r`
[00:14] <ne7work> ne7work@ne7work:~$ linux-headers-`uname -r`
[00:14] <ne7work> bash: linux-headers-2.6.28-19-server: command not found
[00:14] <malchias> ne7work: consider what you are typing
[00:14] <electrofreak> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[00:14] <ne7work> electrofreak, this work
[00:14] <ne7work> and now?
[00:14] <electrofreak> try the nvidia stuff again
[00:14] <electrofreak> probably need build-essentials, too
[00:15] <ne7work> i'm bulgarian
[00:15] <ne7work> what is build-essentials
[00:15] <ne7work> my english is not so good
[00:15] <ne7work> i need and creative x-fi titanium drivers :X
[00:15] <electrofreak> build-essentials allows your computer to compile programs
[00:15] <electrofreak> try 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials', then try the nvidia stuff again
[00:16] <ne7work> well okay
[00:16] <ne7work> :)
[00:16] <ne7work> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[00:17] <jmarsden> nvidia, creative x-fi titanium, etc really have NOTHING to with Ubuntu Server.  Please use #ubuntu for desktop support.
[00:17] <jmarsden> And that package name is build-essential
[00:17] <jmarsden> No 's'
[00:17] <electrofreak> heh, opps
[00:17] <electrofreak> try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential', then try the nvidia stuff again
[00:17] <ne7work> jmarsden, i install sudo apt-get install gnome on my ubuntu server 9.04 not ubuntu-desktop
[00:17] <ne7work> and i try to install drivers and..
[00:18] <jmarsden> ne7work: You are doing something desktop related.  Using server as a GUI desktop is not recommended.  Use #ubutnu for desktop-related support.
[00:19] <ne7work> i hate ubuntu desktop edition
[00:19] <ne7work> :S
[00:19] <electrofreak> why?
[00:19] <ne7work> .. not good for hlds server
[00:19] <jmarsden> You are more or less recreating it, sort of, here, and getting confused as you go.  Rethink.
[00:20] <electrofreak> hlds should work just fine....
[00:20] <ne7work> yes but on ubuntu 9.04 desktop edition..
[00:20] <ne7work> without players cpu is 24..
[00:21] <ne7work> on slackware 13.0 with 5 players cpu is under 1
[00:21] <ne7work> ..
[00:21] <jmarsden> Then find out why.  Instead of doing strange things with a GUI on a server.
[00:21] <ne7work> i have only one PC
[00:22] <jmarsden> So run Desktop Edition, and figure out the issue with hlds or whatever else you want to run on it.
[00:22] <ne7work> on ubuntu desktop edition hlds run very sucks
[00:22] <ne7work> and cpu on hlds is 24..
[00:22] <jmarsden> Find out *why*, do not just keep repeating "it sucks" nonsense.
[00:22] <ne7work> on win 7 and slackware 13.0 cpu is 0..
[00:23] <ne7work> when play 0 players..
[00:23] <ne7work> i need to try server edition without ubuntu-desktop :X
[00:23] <ne7work> ..
[00:23] <electrofreak> I have a feeling X would have nothing to do with that...
[00:23] <jmarsden> ne7work: Great, then do that.  and use it as a server.  Only.  With no GUI.
[00:24] <jmarsden> Server edition does not need nvidia drivers, and it does not need a Creative X-fi card.
[00:24] <ne7work> i have only one PC how to play counter-strike without graphic enviorment?
[00:24] <ne7work> i need for server and for desktop too..
[00:24] <ne7work> ubuntu desktop is not good for me..
[00:25] <jmarsden> Nor us Ubuntu server, because it has no GUI, and adding one is not recommended unless you are experienced with it, which you do not seem to be...
[00:25] <ne7work> what is GUI?
[00:25] <ne7work> desktop enviorment or what?
[00:25] <electrofreak> ne7work: try debian.
[00:26] <jmarsden> This homemade mix of desktop GUI and server will not always behave the way you seem to want.  GUI == Graphical User Interface.
[00:26] <electrofreak> GUI - Graphical User Interface
[00:26] <ne7work> electrofreak, i don't know how to install from netinst cd with pppoeconf how to configure pppoe connection for netinst install?
[00:26] <jmarsden> ne7work: ask in #debian
[00:27] <electrofreak> ne7work: I honestly have no idea... never used PPPoE.
[00:27] <Ichat> pppoe = i did
[00:28] <Ichat> quite a while ago though
[00:28] <electrofreak> I can't imagine it being too difficult.... I think debian's installer should ask you for all the necessary info, which I'm sure you can enter if you could for ubuntu's installer
[00:28] <Ichat> true
[00:29] <Ichat> most of the time you only need    username  and pasword
[00:29] <electrofreak> yea, that was my understanding... only looked at it a few times
[00:30] <ne7work> well
[00:30] <ne7work> i try before
[00:30] <ne7work> and i try with graphical install and no where ask me
[00:30] <ne7work> ..
[00:30] <ne7work> :S
[00:32] <Ichat> but -  to be honnest i dont think there is more about it than that,  -  noticing that hes not seeming to be wanting any 'good'  advice or help,  but rather just only what he wants to hear? -    ne7work -   1 pick your  flavor that suites you   (xubuntu - or ubuntulight  if you dont want the gnome-desktop bloat...     2  either go for   expert mode install  (or  change your  inet settings...
[00:32] <Ichat> ...after your install completes
[00:33] <Ichat> in the grafical setup / or on your desktop  / (config panel - it will show you a network settings  option   (change it from dinamic to  pppoe  and it will ask you the right info
[00:35] <Ichat> the system may also  ask you for MTU's  and stuff -  i temper with them - you should NOT ever have to do so, (unless the person from your isp tells you to )
[00:36] <ruben23> hi, on my host i already have put this-->http://pastebin.com/YSi3X5Yz  ---> but still i cant access uisng this http://Router.3trglobal.com/index.html
[00:36] <ruben23> any idea
[00:38] <ne7work> electrofreak, i go try install nvidia drivers
[00:38] <electrofreak> ruben23: that is your local IP.... do you just want to access your local machine's webserver?
[00:38] <electrofreak> ruben23: or are you trying to access it from another machine?
[00:38] <electrofreak> ruben23: because that wont work
[00:40] <ruben23> electrofreak:this is for my local machine server
[00:40] <ruben23> my local client can access it
[00:40] <electrofreak> ruben23: ok, who can't access it?
[00:41] <ruben23> the outside, WAN
[00:41] <ruben23> but what if i want to WAN able to access it is it possible..?
[00:42] <electrofreak> ruben23: Router.3trglobal.com doesn't associate to an IP from my end.... is it setup through your DNS?
[00:43] <electrofreak> running Router.3trglobal.com doesn't return an IP
[00:43] <electrofreak> sorry, 'ping Router.3trglobal.com'
[00:43] <ruben23> http://pastebin.com/1HuQep3x
[00:43] <ruben23> that ip i didnt know
[00:44] <ruben23> what should i do with this..? be able accessible to local and internet
[00:45] <electrofreak> you need to setup the domain name. where did you get the domain 3trglobal.com from?
[00:46] <electrofreak> do you own that domain?
[00:46] <ruben23> i just made it up myself , its the hostname of my server..
[00:47] <Ichat> rubuntu never use an  FQDN
[00:47] <Ichat> instead for local perposes use stuf like    mydomain.lan   (as   .lan is non-existant as a tld
[00:48] <ruben23> electrofreak:what should i do for my purpose..? should i used FQDN for this server as its host and point it..?
[00:50] <electrofreak> I dunno exactly what you're trying to do... but you need a domain name that points to your server's IP if you want people to easily access it through the browser...
[00:51] <electrofreak> does http://<servers_ip>/index.html work for you?
[00:52] <ruben23> it doesnt
[00:52] <electrofreak> what is the servers ip?
[00:53] <electrofreak> ifconfig
[00:54] <jmarsden> electrofreak: if server is behind a NATing router/firewall, that will not work.  Instead use     wget -O- -q http://whatismyip.org
[00:55] <electrofreak> jmarsden: well, yea... I was trying to determine if he even has an outside IP
[00:56] <jmarsden> OK... but how will ipconfig determine that??  Anyway, you are the one helping... I'm just saying, that's not a valid way to find your Internet public IP.  BTW, since he is connected to IRC, he *must* have a public IP.  Very few people have IPv6 *only* connections!!
[00:57] <electrofreak> was gonna see if it was just a 192.168, 10..... or whatever... he still hasn't replied anyway
[00:57] <ruben23> what you want..? local ip or public ip..?
[00:58] <ruben23> the main goal only for this is be able to see the monitoring log of a file pointed to my server hostname..
[00:58] <electrofreak> both, I suppose.... if you are behind a NAT.... you need port 80 forwarded to your server if you want the webserver to work
[00:58] <ruben23> which is Router.3trglobal.com
[00:58] <ruben23> but even locally i cant open it
[00:58] <ruben23> do i need to open that..?
[00:58] <electrofreak> do you have a webserver installed?
[01:00] <jmarsden> ruben23:  On the server itself, if you do     wget http://127.0.0.1/index.html        what happens?
[01:00] <ruben23> just a blank page, white page
[01:01] <electrofreak> ruben23: does 'curl http://127.0.01' show the HTML code you would expect?
[01:01] <electrofreak> sorry....
[01:01] <electrofreak> ruben23: does 'curl http://127.0.0.1' show the HTML code you would expect?
[01:02] <ruben23> i cant see it
[01:02] <ruben23> blank only
[01:06] <ruben23> electrofreak:what you think..?
[01:06] <resno> bogeyd6-: i dont really want to keep windows around, but vmware wont work in other browsers, so i dont have much of an option
[01:07] <electrofreak> ruben23: did you install apache or other webserver?
[01:07] <electrofreak> does your server have a public IP?
[01:07] <ruben23> electrofreak: i installed webserver and i used public ip also
[01:11] <electrofreak> but that public IP doesn't work from the outside so people can view your website?
[02:11] <bogeyd6-> resno, vmware server 1 uses a vmware client and not a browser, or you could use this
[02:11] <bogeyd6-> !kvm | resno
[02:48] <rsousa> hi, has anyone installed 10.04 Server on a supermcro (H8DMT) via KVM on the IPMI board?
[02:49]  * rsousa gets the installers screen all messed up :(
[04:37] <ideaman> what is everyone using to manage large scale deployments of ubuntu server?
[05:39] <ScottK> I think puppet is the preferred solution.
[06:28] <sarthor> HI. i want to configure ubuntu-server 10.04 as a hotspot server, do any one about tutorial or howto on the Intenret, i did search, but am not lucky to get the nicer link.
[07:08] <newbie> hello
[07:08] <newbie> i need help with iptables
[07:08] <newbie> anyone here ?
[07:13] <newbie> hello
[07:13] <newbie> wise
[07:13] <newbie> u here
[07:13] <newbie> ?
[08:30] <awanti_> Hi
[09:01] <halvors1> I can't connect to my email server, i get this message: An error  occurred while sending mail: Unable to authenticate against the SMTP  server mail.skymia.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP AUTH) but  you have chosen to use authentication. Remove the option  "Use name and password" for this server or contact your service  provider.
[09:02] <halvors1> When use the package dovecot-postfix how should i connect? Using STARTTLS, None or TLS/SSL?
[09:03] <jmarsden> halvors1: Do what the error message says; thsi is anout SMTP AUTH, not TLS settings.
[09:03] <jmarsden> You should use whatever that mailserver supports :)
[09:03] <halvors1> So i have to use TLS?
[09:03] <jmarsden> Not necessarily, no.
[09:03] <jmarsden> You should use whatever that mailserver supports :)
[09:03] <halvors1> Yes but i cant send mail useing none of them, no work....
[09:04] <jmarsden> Then "contact your service provider", if that mail server does not work ...
[09:04] <halvors1> i am the service provider ;)
[09:05] <halvors1> Sending message failed.
[09:05] <halvors1> Could not send  message using SMTP server mail.skymia.net of unknown cause. Make sure the  SMTP server settings are correct and try again or contact your system  administrator.
[09:05] <halvors1> I get this when using STARTTLS
[09:05] <jmarsden> You run mail.skymia.net?  Then you should know whether it uses TLS or STARTTLS etc.  You own it!
[09:06] <halvors1> Sending message failed.
[09:06] <halvors1> Could not send  the message because the connection to the SMTP server mail.skymia.net  failed. The server may be unavailable or refuse SMTP connections. Make sure the  SMTP server settings are correct and try again or contact your system  administrator
[09:06] <halvors1> And this for TLS/SSL
[09:07] <jmarsden> How exactly are you testing this mailserver?
[09:07] <halvors1> I am a noob,m i am testing now, i only installed the package dovecot-postfix
[09:07] <halvors1> ??
[09:07] <halvors1> Trying to connect...
[09:07] <halvors1> From Mozilla Thunderbird
[09:07] <jmarsden> With what?  telnet?
[09:07] <jmarsden> Ah.  Why not test it with something lower level, so you can see what it is doing?
[09:08] <halvors1> But i want to send email from Email-Client not Telnet ;)
[09:09] <jmarsden> Indeed.  But test it first!  BTW, I cannot even connect to port 25 on mail.skymia.netr from here at all...
[09:09] <halvors1> ok
[09:09] <jmarsden> Is your mailserver really on the public Internet?
[09:09] <halvors1> Can you do it for me or?
[09:10] <halvors1> I have tryed to setup this emailserver for 2 years...
[09:10] <jmarsden> Only if I can see it... is it actually on the Internet -- is TCP port 25 of mail.skymia.net open?
[09:10] <halvors1> I use port forwarding in my router...
[09:11] <jmarsden> Are you 100% sure that is working?  BTW, if you are at home on a dynamic IP address, you will have some issues running a mailserver...
[09:11] <halvors1> Port 25 is set to "Any"
[09:11] <halvors1> Should i use TCP instead?
[09:12] <halvors1> I have static IP to my home ;)
[09:13] <jmarsden> I think you have postfix set to listen only on localhost, then?
[09:13] <halvors1> How edit that?
[09:13] <halvors1> in main.cf
[09:14] <halvors1> i can post the main.cf at pastebin ok?
[09:14] <jmarsden> What does   netstat -ntl | grep :25    say?
[09:14] <halvors1> will test
[09:14] <halvors1> http://pastebin.com/PctiQZkX
[09:15] <halvors1> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
[09:15] <halvors1> also netstat -ntl | grep :25
[09:16] <halvors1> jmarsden: What does that mean?
[09:17] <jmarsden> Huh?  No... at the shell command prompt on the server, do    netstat -ntl | grep 25
[09:19] <jmarsden> Do    netstat -ntl | grep :25
[09:19] <halvors1> i need to take a screenshot ;)
[09:19] <jmarsden> Why?  Use pastebinit
[09:19] <jmarsden> You should get one line of output...
[09:20] <jmarsden> Huh?  No... at the shell command prompt on the server, do    netstat -ntl | grep 25 | pastebinit   if you can not cut and paste one line into IRC.
[09:21] <halvors1> http://halvors.skymia.net/Skjermdump.png
[09:21] <halvors1> i cant copy from putty...
[09:21] <jmarsden> Why not?
[09:21] <halvors1> so here is the screenshot.
[09:22] <jmarsden> OK, screenshot says that you are listening on port 25 on all IP addresses, so your port forwarding must be wrong.
[09:22] <halvors1> but i am on the local network...
[09:23] <jmarsden> Yes, but I am not, so I can't test anything if your port forwarding is broken...
[09:23] <halvors1> Here is my port forward for the server. http://halvors.skymia.net/Skjermdump-1.png
[09:24] <halvors1> Someting wrong?
[09:24] <jmarsden> I don't know... there are no IP addresses in there... it does not say what local IP it will forward port 25 to...
[09:25] <halvors1> 10.0.0.2
[09:25] <halvors1> is the ip..
[09:26] <halvors1> http://halvors.skymia.net/Skjermdump-2.png (ss1 = 10.0.0.2) i add it to the servers profile...
[09:26] <jmarsden> Well, all I can say is that both telnet and nmap show your port 25 on mail.skymia.net (84.49.231.146) as being blocked.
[09:26] <halvors1> ok
[09:27] <halvors1> so should i try to set it to 25 tcp
[09:27] <halvors1> so can you test again with it?
[09:27] <jmarsden> OK...
[09:27] <jmarsden> Still the same, nmap says:    25/tcp filtered smtp
[09:29] <halvors1> I have now edited it to 25 TCP
[09:29] <jmarsden> Your port 110 is open just fine, by the way.
[09:30] <jmarsden> No change to port 25.
[09:30] <halvors1> ok
[09:30] <halvors1> maybe the ISP is blocking it?
[09:30] <halvors1> are the 110 port fine?
[09:30] <halvors1> and what is 465 port
[09:30] <halvors1> ?
[09:31] <jmarsden> Possible, but a bit unlikely.  Yes, I can see dovecot running on port 110.  465 is smtp over SSL...
[09:32] <halvors1> ok
[09:32] <halvors1> can you try that?
[09:32] <jmarsden> That's closed, nothing is listening on it, apparently.
[09:33] <halvors1> hmm. It could be postfix?
[09:33] <halvors1> Bot 25 and 465 is open in my router...
[09:34] <jmarsden> netstat -ntl | grep :465
[09:35] <halvors1> now only port 25 is open in my router, does it work now?
[09:36] <jmarsden> No, now everything looks filtered
[09:37] <halvors1> When trying netstat -ntl | grep :465 i did not get anyting...
[09:37] <jmarsden> Then postfix is not listening on that port.
[09:37] <jmarsden> Did you configure it to do so?
[09:38] <halvors1> http://pastebin.com/PctiQZkX
[09:38] <halvors1> here is my config file...
[09:39] <halvors1> i only installed the dovecot-postfix package...
[09:40] <jmarsden> I can't work that way... if you don't know how to configure postfix and the default config does not work for you, you are stuck.  You need to learn more about postfix and email servers in general, or fix the port 25 issue, and then come back to this.
[09:40] <halvors1> ok
[09:40] <halvors1> But here one say to me that i only need to install dovecot-postfix...
[09:40] <halvors1> Its it right?
[09:41] <jmarsden> And that is generally true, the defaylts usually work.
[09:41] <halvors1> So then it shoul dwork...
[09:41] <jmarsden> But for you they are not working, or you do not know how to test them, or both, and I can't test because of the port 25 issue...
[09:41] <jmarsden> Yes, it should.
[09:41] <halvors1> ok
[09:42] <halvors1> thanks, will try to contact my ISP and ask them about the port 25..
[09:42] <halvors1> bye
[09:42] <jmarsden> OK.  Bye.
[09:43] <halvors1> And thanks for help ;)
[11:37] <RoyK> bug #596479 was rather stupid :þ
[12:14] <kim0> Hi folks, can ubuntu-server install over LVM, or do I need alternate ?
[12:23] <jpds> kim0: I think both can.
[12:23] <kim0> great .. let's drop alternate then :)
[13:19] <resno> bogeyd6-: i cant use kvm as my cpu doesnt support virtualization
[13:19] <bogeyd6-> resno, kk
[13:19] <bogeyd6-> resno, then i suggest you use vmware server 1
[13:20] <resno> i dont see the install download on the vmware site
[13:20] <bogeyd6-> you can download it by going to the server download area then clicking on looking for version 1
[13:20] <bogeyd6-> resno, http://downloads.vmware.com/d/info/datacenter_downloads/vmware_server/1_0
[13:20] <resno> bogeyd6-: thanks.
[13:21] <bogeyd6-> basically you use a vmware client instead of a website to view the machine
[13:21] <bogeyd6-> i shelled out for workstation
[13:21] <bogeyd6-> but i use it for work so you know.......
[13:21] <resno> will having that run increase my cpu usage?
[13:22] <resno> i installed it on a development server and it spiked the cpu usage
[13:22] <resno> is that usual and expected?
[13:22] <bogeyd6-> wat?
[13:22] <bogeyd6-> workstation?
[13:23] <resno> i installed vmware 2 on my test server, and as i worked with the web client, the machines load avgs went through the roof
[13:24] <bogeyd6-> it is normal for a large cpu spike (espcially on older systems) if you leave the guest running in the background. my suggest would be to "pause it". For vmware server 2 just using the web front end will cause cpu usage.
[13:24] <bogeyd6-> what processor are you using?
[13:24] <resno> i will be using a p4.
[13:24] <bogeyd6-> ah :(
[13:24] <resno> the test was a p3 :(
[13:25] <bogeyd6-> you gonna get a cpu spike just typing in the terminal :P
[13:25] <bogeyd6-> but vmware server 1 is exactly what you want, trust me on that. Vbox works but it requires lots of finagling where as vmware works, and then make sure you install the vmware tools on the windows guest.
[13:26] <resno> is there a ubunutu vmware tools?
[13:26] <bogeyd6-> yup
[13:26] <bogeyd6-> sudo apt-get install open-vmware-tools
[13:27] <bogeyd6-> er
[13:27] <bogeyd6-> sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools
[13:27] <resno> thanks, do you think i should pause the guest os on the p4?
[13:28] <resno> i believe i have a 1gb of ram
[13:28] <bogeyd6-> if you are using linucks and windows is your guest, yes. If it is Windows and Ubuntu is the guest then no
[13:28] <resno> it will be ubutnu and centos as the guest
[13:28] <resno> ubuntu server
[13:28] <bogeyd6-> you are fine then
[13:28] <resno> im playing with pbx and asterisk :)
[13:29] <bogeyd6-> i hope you dont expect much with a machine like that
[13:29] <resno> what should i not expect?
[13:29] <bogeyd6-> our asterisk systems run dual quad cores with 32gb of ram. using a ZFS iscsi lan and they have some issues on high load
[13:30] <bogeyd6-> ubuntu server of cos
[13:30] <resno> i only plan to run one line, and it will hardly be used. its a backup for our mobile phones
[13:30] <bogeyd6-> cool
[13:31] <resno> thanks bogeyd6- ill try it out and cross my fingers :)
[13:31] <resno> if i upgraded, what do you think i should go to? as in cpu
[13:32] <bogeyd6-> wat, ideally? or on a budget. cuz personally im fond of the HP dl385's
[13:34] <resno> heh, run a full sized server for my home
[13:35] <bogeyd6-> i figured it was for a small business
[13:35] <resno> nope, its for a small home. just me and the wife.. at the moment
[13:35] <bogeyd6-> then your p4 is fine
[13:35]  * resno dances the jig
[13:36] <bogeyd6-> turn it into a unified voicemail system would be awesome
[13:36] <bogeyd6-> get your voicemails emailed to you
[13:36] <resno> that would be pretty awesome..
[13:37] <bogeyd6-> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+voicemail.conf
[13:37] <bogeyd6-> !asterisk
[13:38] <bogeyd6-> !voip
[13:38] <resno> do you have a server running at home or no?
[13:39] <bogeyd6-> nope i vpn into my work and just use my unified number google voice number
[13:39] <bogeyd6-> 9/10 calls i get through my ubuntu laptop
[13:39] <bogeyd6-> the other 1 i typically answer on my cell phone if i had to guess
[13:41] <resno> bogeyd6-: one other question, im running the centos install on my desktin in virtualbox, its running quite high on my machine.
[13:41] <resno> desktop
[13:41] <bogeyd6-> graphical or command line?
[13:41] <resno> command line
[13:41] <bogeyd6-> dunno
[13:42] <bogeyd6-> never used it
[13:42] <resno> does ubuntu support pbx in a flash?
[13:43] <bogeyd6-> resno, asterisk is in the repo and you can turn on backports, however i have never used the repo version so I can not speak to how much setup has to go on
[13:44] <resno> ok, in that case ill just stay where i am. the cpu avg have settled down.
[13:45] <RoyK> resno: asterisk will help you get a pbx up and running quite quickly, but asterisk isn't really built for stability - http://karlsbakk.net/fun/asterisk_architecture.jpg - http://karlsbakk.net/fun/asterisk-installation.wav
[13:45] <bogeyd6-> the load avg?
[13:45] <RoyK> I've worked with asterisk for some years, and I'm pretty glad I'm not using it anymore
[13:45] <bogeyd6-> RoyK, and the alternative?
[13:45] <RoyK> freeswitch
[13:46] <bogeyd6-> bah
[13:46] <resno> certaintly seems less popular
[13:46] <RoyK> freeswitch was started as a separate project by asterisk developers that tried to fix elementary design flaws, but was stopped by Digium
[13:47] <RoyK> the asterisk code is a pita
[13:48] <RoyK> and since it's dual licensed, it can't link with gpl, so all code must be written from scratch and given to Digium
[13:49] <bogeyd6-> cool story bro
[13:51] <bogeyd6-> im sorry to be negative royk
[13:51] <RoyK> heh - I'm the one being negative to asterisk :)
[13:51] <bogeyd6-> but this really sounds like a bunch of butthurt developers who ragequit digium
[13:51] <RoyK> bogeyd6-: I've worked with asterisk in rather large setups and I've done my part of debugging/fixing
[13:52] <RoyK> the code is REALLY a mess
[13:52] <bogeyd6-> im in a 745 phone setup
[13:52] <bogeyd6-> 746 if you count the maintenance line
[13:52] <RoyK> and reporting bugs is hard - even obvious bugs can be closed with notaproblem
[13:53] <RoyK> bogeyd6-: if it's better now, that's good
[13:53] <RoyK> but I somehow think I won't be using it much
[13:54] <bogeyd6-> no worries
[13:54] <RoyK> the RTP stack in asterisk doesn't scale at all, It hung the server at 200 bridged calls
[13:54] <RoyK> hard hang
[13:54] <bogeyd6-> i can introduce you to 5 people in IRC right now who would go on and on about how ubuntu server is not a server os
[13:54] <resno> bogeyd6-: only 5?
[13:54] <bogeyd6-> lol :P
[13:54] <RoyK> I've heard that as well, but I beleive in free speech
[13:55] <RoyK> or free religion
[13:55] <bogeyd6-> visit #centos and toll the bejesus out of em by saying "I switch from CentOS to Ubuntu"
[13:55] <bogeyd6-> toll = troll
[13:55] <RoyK> I'm at #opensolaris a lot, and there are a few in there that hate everything that is linux
[13:55] <bogeyd6-> you know we never made the switch from Solaris to OpenSolaris
[13:56] <RoyK> we're using osol for some rather large storage servers - couple of 50TB setups
[13:56] <RoyK> zfs rocks
[13:57] <bogeyd6-> nice
[13:57] <RoyK> bogeyd6-: just don't misunderstand me - if asterisk works well for you, good, but for the ITSP I worked, it had several flaws
[13:57] <bogeyd6-> every time my two step sons go anywhere, they go to together and it makes me suspicious
[13:58] <bogeyd6-> normally i dont notice but today im outside smoking up some pork butts and ribs for fathers day
[13:59] <resno> what are you thinking?
[13:59] <bogeyd6-> RoyK, in that pic you sent are you meant to read it left to right
[14:04] <RoyK> bogeyd6-: I'm not sure it's meant reading :)
[14:05] <bogeyd6-> dang my smoker today just wont go below 250
[14:05] <RoyK> smoker?
[14:06] <bogeyd6-> RoyK, literally  a metal box i build a fire in with wood and cook pork for hours on end
[14:09] <RoyK> oh, to _smoke_ pork?
[15:39] <Ichat> is there anyone with some experience  setting up a  print-server  in hardy with a  samsung clp310   (either with the samsung of the foo2  driver???
[16:36] <datz> how is memory usage calculated on login?
[16:36] <datz> seems to be inaccurate
[16:40] <resno> if i get red text and flashing lights during boot, i can imagine the machine is unhappy
[16:41] <datz> +1
[16:43] <RoyK> datz: see the 'free' output - it says something about what is used by whom
[16:43] <RoyK> mostly, memory is used by cache
[16:45] <datz> RoyK: that's how I calculated what I thought it should be
[16:55] <RoyK> datz: and does it still use a lot of memory?
[16:58] <datz> RoyK: not too much.
[16:59] <datz>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[16:59] <datz> Mem:           243        234          9          0         90         64
[16:59] <datz> -/+ buffers/cache:         79        164
[16:59] <datz> Swap:          710          5        705
[16:59] <datz> says no swap used, and 43% or memory used
[16:59] <datz> swap is used, and looks more like 63% of mem used
[17:03] <resno> is there a way recovery system to bring amachine back from death?
[17:04] <jpds> #define death
[17:04] <resno> caps lock and num lock are flashing and im getting a call trace on the screen
[17:04] <jpds> Sounds like kernel panic?
[17:05] <resno> i dont see any mention of kernel panic
[17:05] <bogeyd6-> datz, it depends, its usually total system memory - mb vidya - other shared = total shown
[17:05]  * resno is not an expert
[17:05] <resno> jpds: actually is does say panic occured
[17:05] <resno> bogeyd6-: vmware 2 blew up on me :(
[17:06] <jpds> resno: Try booting into an old kernel?
[17:06] <datz> bogeyd6-: ok thanks
[17:06] <resno> jpds: how do i go about doing that? live cd?
[17:06] <jpds> resno: Is this a Lucid machine?
[17:07] <resno> lucid is 10.04 lts right?
[17:07] <jpds> resno: Yes; after POST hold down the Shift key and GRUB should appear with kernel versions.
[17:09] <MrZhi> hey, if sshd is configured to use PAM, can I still restrict access to SSH by using "AllowGroups <GroupName>" in sshd_config?
[17:10] <resno> jpds: ok, im there im in recovery menu. any suggestions?
[17:11] <jpds> resno: How many kernels do you see?
[17:13] <resno> jpds: 2 - 2.6.32-22-generic-pae and its recovery mode. and 2.6.31-17-generic-pae and its recovery mode
[17:13] <jpds> resno: Try booting into 2.6.31?
[17:18] <resno> jpds: ok, its back up. how do i fix it?
[17:19] <jpds> resno: Something in the newer kernel upsets your system.
[17:19] <jpds> resno: What kind of machine is it?
[17:21] <resno> jpds: i installed vmware server 2 thats what upset it :(
[17:22] <jpds> Hmm, don't have VMWare experience, sorry.
[17:23] <resno> im curious, ive booted into another kernel. so should everything work? or will only certain things work prior to the kernel update?
[17:31] <resno> jpds: thanks for you help. my machine is smiling again
[17:32] <jpds> No problem.
[17:43] <resno> bogeyd6-: how should i go about installing vmware 1 on the server?
[17:43] <bogeyd6-> which server version
[17:43] <resno> bogeyd6-: vmware server 1, the one you linked me to
[17:44] <resno> bogeyd6-: 1.0.10-203137
[17:45] <bogeyd6-> uhm
[17:45] <bogeyd6-> resno,  10.04 or 8.04
[17:45] <bogeyd6-> cuz im saying 8.04
[17:45] <resno> oh, 10.04
[17:45] <bogeyd6-> 10.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9482044#post9482044
[17:46] <resno> why is this never as easy as i hoped it be
[17:58] <bogeyd6-> resno, if linucks was easy everyone would use it
[18:22] <peturi> Hi, my server is currently running Debian Etch. I only have access to it via ssh, is it possible for me to remotely dump debian from it and install Ubuntu server edition?  i guess i'll need to use some kind of an install script" where i have defined all the options (keyboard,country,users etc) .. i don't want to "format" the partition, just delete everything except /home
[18:25] <Jordan_U> !install | peturi
[18:31] <JackTO> hi all, i sthere an easy wany to change the root password?  and then to switch it bad, i need to change it about 3 times, but i don't want to mess anything up
[18:31] <JackTO> back*
[18:31] <JackTO> typos!
[18:35] <steffan> JackTO: er, you need to change the root password?
[18:36] <wilcojr> anyone here can help with NFS+MYSQL on 10.04
[18:36] <wilcojr> it hangs and totally unstable
[18:38] <martin-> you run your db over nfs?
[18:38] <wilcojr> yes
[18:38] <wilcojr> we have a 10 Gig ethernet network
[18:38] <wilcojr> NetAPp 3140 filer
[18:38] <wilcojr> we get awesome performance
[18:38] <wilcojr> around 3gig/sec NFS access :)
[18:38] <wilcojr> i can copyu files over and over to the NFS
[18:39] <wilcojr> but MYSQL when configured to the same path
[18:39] <wilcojr> hangs at boot
[18:39] <martin-> what about seeking?
[18:39] <wilcojr> i changed the datadir in my.cnf to point to my NFS mount
[18:40] <wilcojr> 10.26.0.11:/vol/mysql_db_data on /mnt/mysql_data type nfs (rw,bg,hard,nointr,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,tcp,nfsvers=3,timeo=660,actimeo=0,addr=10.26.0.11)
[18:40] <wilcojr> thats my mount
[18:40] <wilcojr> it works flawlessly
[18:40] <wilcojr> copying files from the mysql servers to this mount point
[18:40] <wilcojr> however when i change the datadir in my.cnf to point to this mount
[18:40] <wilcojr> it hangs!
[18:40] <wilcojr> mysql simply hangs
[18:40] <wilcojr> does not start
[18:40] <wilcojr> and respwns some weird shit in ps
[18:41] <wilcojr> if i do status i get:
[18:41] <wilcojr> mysql respawn/post-start, (post-start) process 1527
[18:41] <wilcojr> if i look at process 1527
[18:42] <wilcojr> root      1527     1  0 19:24 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh -e /proc/self/fd/8
[18:42] <wilcojr> if i try to kill
[18:42] <wilcojr> it will respawn
[18:42] <wilcojr> and respawn
[18:42] <wilcojr> im exhusted
[18:42] <martin-> why can't you run mysql on the other server?
[18:43] <wilcojr> nono
[18:43] <martin-> running a db over nfs seems like a bad idea, no matter how much bandwidth you have
[18:43] <wilcojr> all mysql servers are virutalized and write thier database to centerlized NFS storage on our netapp
[18:43] <wilcojr> martin - we run oracleRAC 11.2G on NFS
[18:43] <wilcojr> works like a charm
[18:43] <wilcojr> each VM has a dedicated NFS network card
[18:43] <wilcojr> traffic goes directly to the netapp
[18:43] <wilcojr> no firewalls/filters
[18:44] <wilcojr> how can i debug this guys
[18:44] <wilcojr> if i type mysqld --debug
[18:44] <wilcojr> nothing happens
[18:45] <wilcojr> what is this ? root      1527     1  0 19:24 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh -e /proc/self/fd/8 - is it some kind of file disrecptor ?
[19:18] <onetrouble> I am doing this: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E9EEF4A1. But getting: Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E9EEF4A1 gpg: requesting key E9EEF4A1 from hkp server keyserver.ubun
[19:18] <onetrouble> Can someone help me please?
[19:56] <jmarsden> onetrouble: Your command looks fine, and works perfectly for me here.
[20:14] <onetrouble> jmarsden: =(. what could it be. running 10.04 rackspace cloud servers. restart the server?
[20:16] <lukehasnoname> Is UEC being operated by any large-scale hosting company?
[20:17] <lukehasnoname> Sry, somehow hit the disconnect button in xchat
[20:18] <MrZhi> hehe
[20:19] <MrZhi> San Antonio.. has Rackspace, which I believe runs UEC
[20:19] <ScottK> MrZhi: Rackspace cloud doesn't use UEC.
[20:20] <MrZhi> no I think they use internally
[20:21] <ScottK> They use Ubuntu, but not UEC AFAIK.  They're cloud stuff is their own solution.
[20:21] <MrZhi> hrmm, musta misunderstood my source
[20:23] <Danawar1> Whats better for servers centos or ubuntu?
[20:23] <ScottK> There's Rackspace "traditional" and Rackspace Cloud and they are organizationally pretty seperate.  It may be that the traditional part of Rackspace is using it.
[20:23] <ScottK> Danawar1: Surely you wouldn't expect anyone to say anything but Ubuntu here?
[20:24] <MrZhi> Centos is just rebranded Fedora bloatware :D
[20:26] <lukehasnoname> A guy at work was trashing Ubuntu and Debian for, among other things, keeping all the NIC configuration in one file
[20:27] <lukehasnoname> MrZhi, do you live in San Antonio? Or did you see that I do from my IP?
[20:30] <MrZhi> lukehasnoname, I'm in Austin
[20:31] <MrZhi> but yeah, recognized the satx
[20:33] <lukehasnoname> Ya, I work for another huge IT shop in SATX. It's not their external business, but they rely heavily on IT. I'm not sure how much Linux is in the environment... we have mainframe, RHEL, Solaris, AIX and Server 2003 with XP desktops -_-
[20:33] <ScottK> Danawar1: One of the real advantages of Debian/Ubuntu over Red Hat/Centos is the breadth of the official archives.  I don't know anyone seriously using RH/Centos that doesn't have to hunt down and use third party repos.  In Debian/Ubuntu that usually isn't necessary.
[20:33] <Danawar1> ScottK: I was just after an opinion as I have no experience of centos, I'm sure every OS has its advantages as well as its drawbacks.
[20:34] <Danawar1> ScottK: I see =]
[20:34] <ScottK> RH/Centos is kind of like IBM in the 70s.  Very reliable and you'll never get in trouble for suggesting it, but not necessarily the best.
[20:34] <ScottK> Also because the RHEL release cycle is slow, RH/Centos tend to have much older versions.
[20:35] <MrZhi> RHEL isn't worth dammit if you're IT. Install a module into the kernel and you may have voided your support
[20:35] <ScottK> I think the fact that Ubuntu uses Apparmor and not SELinux for it's standard MAC tool is an advantage.
[20:35] <MrZhi> true
[20:36] <lukehasnoname> ScottK, From my limited research on the topic, AppArmor and SELinx achieve the same effect while AA is much easier to use
[20:36] <MrZhi> It takes quite a bit of time to get SELinux under control
[20:36] <ScottK> In theory SELinux is "better", but I've yet to run into RH/Centos sysadmin that didn't disable SELinux about the first thing.
[20:36] <MrZhi> ScottK: SOOOOO true
[20:37] <ScottK> lukehasnoname: To a first order affect, they are "the same".  A properly confgured SELinux system is, in fact, more secure than a system with Apparmor, but I've never seen one of those in the wild.
[20:45] <lukehasnoname> MrZhi, you'll know where I work when you read Computerworld's Top 100 places to work in IT tomorrow
[20:45] <lukehasnoname> let's just say you could knock off a few zeros for me
[20:49] <qman__> they're both mandatory access control, but apparmor is permissive by default
[20:49] <qman__> if there is no configuration for a program, apparmor does nothing
[20:50] <qman__> where SELinux is restrictive by default, and doesn't let programs do things they're not allowed to
[20:50] <qman__> it's a total pain though
[20:51] <qman__> it also helps that ubuntu has apparmor sensibly configured out of the box
[20:51] <qman__> a stock redhat/fedora system with SELinux on spews errors
[20:52] <lukehasnoname> Unusable security measures are not useful for most people
[20:55] <qman__> apparmor still protects against someone gaining access through a running service, like bind, and messing up other parts of your system
[20:56] <qman__> which is the most valuable part
[22:52] <Danawar1> Hey #server how do i find out the host name of a system through terminal?
[22:53] <Danawar1> Ohh i believe when it says danawar@danawar it means my username is danawar and the host name is danawar to?
[23:12] <cloakable> yes
[23:12] <cloakable> Danawar1: what form are you looking for? bare hostname or fqdn?
[23:20] <Danawar1> hostname
[23:20] <Danawar1> i do not have a FQDN =[
[23:21] <Danawar1> just setting up a webserver for  my first time :D
[23:31] <Jack-in-Box> hi all, anyone here use the ioncube loader?   I tried it with both PHP 5.3 and also tried downgrading to 5.2 on ubuntu server 10.04, 64bit without any luck, all I get is blank white page??   anyone have this issue?
[23:35] <cloakable> I don't use it... my server is loaded with all GPL software.