[00:00] <yoshiness> What I've said already is that when I open a flash movie in one tab in Firefox, open another one, and keep browsing elsewhere, within about 2 pages, the flash player crashes.
[00:00] <gogeta> lakitu: i would go with 4 to 6 gb install what you need and leave it there
[00:00] <lakitu> so i'm gonna have it pre set up, for in case (or for WHEN) Window$ crashes
[00:00] <gogeta> lakitu: 6 gb would give you plenty of room
[00:00] <lakitu> great, thank
[00:00] <lakitu> s
[00:00] <koshari>  soreau i think there is a new sceme where different scripts are run at diff times by using rc0.d-rc6 ect
[00:01] <soreau> koshari: This is a brand spankin new install, so I'm going to run all updates first then try again
[00:01] <lakitu> bye
[00:01] <lakitu> thanks gogeta
[00:02] <gogeta> yep
[00:02] <SlidingHorn> yoshiness, what version of firefox are you running?
[00:02] <yoshiness> 3.63
[00:02] <yoshiness> Uhhh
[00:02] <yoshiness> wait
[00:02] <yoshiness> 3.6.3
[00:02] <kermit> 3.6.3 kept erasing my form history, i'm trying the the PPA
[00:03] <vaio> hello
[00:03] <pres> vaio: hello.
[00:03] <vaio> is possible to make a bridge in ubuntu between 2 wlan card?
[00:03] <vaio> thank you
[00:04] <gogeta> vaio: yes ad-hoc moode
[00:04] <pres> vaio: probably. But my networking skills lie with Windows. Not Linux.
[00:05] <gogeta> vaio: you can configure that from your network manager in linux by setting it as ad-hoc and entering the ssd etc
[00:05] <vaio> I set a new wifi
[00:05] <gogeta> vaio: make shure both cards use the same ssd
[00:05] <SlidingHorn> yoshiness, everything I've seen points to this being a FF bug...read through this and see if the suggestion there helps (comment #29 seems to have fixed for some users): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/539772
[00:05] <gogeta> vaio: and are in ad-hoc
[00:06] <vaio> but now I'd like to make a bridge
[00:06] <gogeta> vaio: ad-hoc mode is a bridge between 2 wlans your trying to connect 2 pcs rite
[00:07] <danusr> how good is clamwin vs avast?
[00:07] <vaio> no
[00:07] <soreau_> vaio: You can bridge two network interfaces in linux, yes
[00:07] <pres> danusr: that's windows talk.
[00:07] <soreau_> vaio: This should not be tried by anyone, anywhere, at any time http://pastebin.org/344273
[00:07] <vaio> I'm trying to bridge 2 interfaces on same ubuntu
[00:08] <danusr> pres, there is a linux version for avast, isnt it?
[00:08] <gogeta> vaio: oh
[00:08] <vaio> soreau_: ok I have to install something?
[00:08] <gogeta> vaio: never had a setup where i had to do that
[00:09] <soreau_> vaio: That is a script that uses brctl to bridge two connections into the new interface called br0
[00:09] <soreau_> two interfaces rather
[00:09] <gogeta> soreau_: i never saw the point in briding 2 nics
[00:09] <gogeta> soreau_: i always just use 2 diffrent subnets and used the one i whant
[00:10] <soreau_> geoffb: The same effect can be achieved different ways. For example, you can use bridging instead of masquerading to share a connection
[00:11] <pedestrianentran> recently at an airport a friend logged into his online banking using a free internet terminal running some variation of ubuntu with access only to a cut down web browser. He was unhappy to see when he logged out that the back button took him back to viewing his accounts (although he was logged out). He asked me to fix this so I found I could reboot x using ctrl-alt-backspace. This cleared some of the browser history, including his b
[00:12] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: they probly forgot to enable firefox no history or cookies mode
[00:13] <Shapeshiftr> greezmunkey, you there?
[00:13] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: or a user turned it off
[00:13] <Shapeshiftr> or anyone knowledgeable in LAMP servers, specifically the A part
[00:13] <pedestrianentran> gogeta: Yeah so any ideas what i could do about it? There were only about 5 buttons on the browser, no menus etc. I wasn't even sure it was firefox
[00:13] <visof> there is a bash variable that have information about the system , and kernel versions ,  ?
[00:14] <pedestrianentran> visof: uname
[00:14] <visof> something like $PWD
[00:14] <visof> ah
[00:14] <Shapeshiftr> I had both my domain name and IP leading me to the "It Works!" apache placeholder page last night..
[00:14] <visof> pedestrianentran,  thanks
[00:15] <pedestrianentran> visof: actually that might not be what youre after
[00:15] <Shapeshiftr> but after I rebooted, I can't connect to any port on the IP, even SSH and Webmin
[00:15] <woble> I was wondering if sb already has flash working correctly.. both Chromium and FF crash random.. and sounds an issue too! Sometimes it works.. sometimes it doesnt
[00:15] <visof> pedestrianentran,  uname -a
[00:15] <visof> pedestrianentran,  workd fine
[00:15] <jaguar_> #join
[00:15] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: dont use that pc anymore bring your own and use the wifi with firefox in privcy mode
[00:15] <pedestrianentran> visof: or uname -r
[00:16] <Alan502> Hi, just a question how do i change the gateway in ubuntu?
[00:16] <pedestrianentran> gogeta: yep good idea and I would never have logged on to my banking there. But it was my friend, who then asked me to fix it.
[00:17] <soreau_> Alan502: sys>prefs>network connections
[00:17] <unop> visof,  $OSTYPE , $HOSTTYPE, $MACHTYPE and the $BASH_VERS* variables
[00:17] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: it probly was in privcy mode and it was just the stuff still in memery being when you restarted x it was gone
[00:18] <soreau_> visof: See the output of 'env' for all currently set environment variables
[00:18] <Alan502> soreau_, do you happen to know how to do it in kubuntu?
[00:18] <soreau_> Alan502: Nope. But I assume they have a similar networking applet in system settings
[00:18] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: closing the broswer probly woulda had the same effect
[00:19] <Alan502> soreau_, yeah i'm looking in system settings, i was googling how to do it from the command line though
[00:19] <Shapeshiftr> ...anyone?
[00:19] <Shapeshiftr> why would a reboot break my ip?
[00:19] <Hilikus_> i have my computer to go to standby after 30mins. is there a way to make it to NOT go to standby if there's music playing (amarok)
[00:19] <Shapeshiftr> ifconfig still displays the same IP
[00:19] <soreau_> Alan502: I can tell you how to do it via cli, but ubuntu NetworkManager may interfere, so you might want to kill it before trying cli network config
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: yes
[00:20] <Guest39910> i am running xubuntu lucid fresh install and for some reason sound will not work when running firefox/youtube while another app is running sound
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: Gnome or KDE?
[00:20] <Guest39910> can anyone help plz
[00:20] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: gnome
[00:20] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: if behind a roughter as long as your lease doesent expire no your ip whont change
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: ok on the screen saver settings
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: system  > preferences > screensaver
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: then go to power management
[00:20] <Alan502> soreau_, actually the interface i'm trying to configure isn't even detected by gnome-network-manager. It's a vritualbox interface.. anyway how do it do it from the cli?
[00:20] <mom> should i run rmmod -a to speed up my system or would it do bad things?
[00:20] <soreau_> Alan502: Something like this:  route del default && ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.102 && route add default gw 192.168.5.101
[00:21] <gogeta> Guest39910: sounds like your cards not in full duplex mode
[00:21] <vaio> hello
[00:21] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: and then what? i dont see anything there
[00:21] <soreau_> Alan502: of course all three of those commands require super user privileges
[00:21] <Shapeshiftr> gogeta: then why else would my IP be able to be connected to before reboot, then after reboot, no ports are accessible?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: in power management?
[00:21] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: yes
[00:21] <Alan502> soreau_, that's a lot of help, thanks :D
[00:21] <soreau_> Alan502: no problem
[00:21] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: there's nothing about disabling when music is playing
[00:21] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: firewall maybe how do you fix it
[00:21] <vaio> soreau_: thank you soreau_
[00:21] <soreau_> vaio: no problem :)
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: well yes
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: however this is the normal stuff
[00:22] <Shapeshiftr> yeah, I looked in the firewall conf
[00:22] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: your connected now
[00:22] <Shapeshiftr> nothing seems to be amiss
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: your computer shoudn't standby when amarok is playing or any program is being used
[00:22] <buntunub> any help with my sound issue?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: unless it is set up to
[00:22] <Alia> I created a encrypted private directory using the ecryptfs-setup-private tool. I choosed to have the mount password generated for me, but now I'm unsure what my mount password is. Was it saved some where i can read it or do i have to create a new?
[00:22] <Shapeshiftr> it's for my server, not this computer
[00:22] <buntunub> xubuntu lucid fresh install no sound with firefox when running mythtv or any other sound app
[00:22] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: so there's something wrong with mine. i have music playing and it goes to standby
[00:22] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: oh what you trying to acess
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: look around in power management, make sure nothing is set to 30 minute stand by
[00:23] <Shapeshiftr> my server's IP from firefox // domain name // apache
[00:23] <Shapeshiftr> which were all on the same page last night, before the reboot
[00:23] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: what do you mean?? i dont want to disable idle standby
[00:23] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: you will need to open those port in ufw
[00:23] <BiggFREE> Hi
[00:23] <soreau> ! audio | buntunub
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: yeah sleep options and in general
[00:23] <Hilikus_> does anyone know if its possible to disable idle standby when amarok is playing?
[00:23] <Shapeshiftr> yeah, I was nervous about installing ipkungfu as my firewall
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: general isn't relivient, but the  two sleep options could be
[00:24] <Shapeshiftr> I saw this morning that I used a 6.04 guide when configuring my firewall
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: altough thats for the whole computer
[00:24] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: ubuntu has a firewall built in
[00:24] <Shapeshiftr> I see that now =V
[00:24] <Shapeshiftr> I'm going to try that, brb
[00:24] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: that was before ufw
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: try #kubuntu maybe, and tell them your on Ubuntu as well
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: amarok is a KDE/Kubuntu app
[00:24] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: theres nothing there for that. the only thing there is to specify the time it takes to go to standby
[00:24] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: i would remove the one you installed
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: yes
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: that
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: what is  it set to?
[00:25] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: that should fix the issue
[00:25] <Hilikus_> thats not what i need, i know how to change times
[00:25] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: remove reboot should bring it all backup
[00:25] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: its set to 30minutes but thats irrelevant
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: its not
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: if
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: your going away from the computer whilst amarok is playing
[00:25] <Shapeshiftr> reboot when?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: if you don't use the computer for 30 minutes,  it will do what it is told to do there
[00:26] <Shapeshiftr> I just installed my old firewall, and I have none now
[00:26] <Hilikus_> i know! thats why i'm here asking
[00:26] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: you still have ufw
[00:26] <Shapeshiftr> ...and it's working, with no firewall.
[00:26] <Shapeshiftr> I guess that was the problem
[00:26] <Hilikus_> how to avoid that when amarok is playing
[00:26] <Shapeshiftr> great, thanks once a gain
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: if music is playing, I guess it can do standby,  if you haven't been using the computer yourself for the 30 minutes
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: avoide it by having a longer set stand by, or none at all?
[00:26] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: you had it firewalled twice
[00:27] <gogeta> lol
[00:27] <Shapeshiftr> oh, really? I thought it was automatically disabled...
[00:27] <Shapeshiftr> :V
[00:27] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: ufw is auto enabled
[00:27] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: no, i want 30 minutes, like i said, the time is irrelevant. i want to be able to set it if i want to 1 minute, but so that if amarok is playing it WILL NOT go to stand by
[00:27] <Shapeshiftr> I see :/
[00:27] <Hilikus_> 30 minutes is ok for when i am not playing music
[00:27] <Kauzmik1dr> I have been looking in forums but cant seem to get my wireless to work I have a wna1100 I dont mind buying a more compatible usb wireless if recommended. I have tried the one with the ndiswrapper and the xp driver files
[00:28] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: if you tryed to acess it from outside your local network it would refuse it
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: well I don't think you can do what you want
[00:28] <sylon>  hi, is it possible to filter the conky output of the downspeedf command to remove the decimal point?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Hilikus_: stand by doesn't care, what apps you have open
[00:28] <Hilikus_> sebsebseb: :S thanks
[00:29] <star314> gdm takes about 6% of CPU load. htop says "/usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-DnjrqV/database -nolisten tcp" needs about 6%. Is that a known problem?
[00:31] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: ufw it pretty relaxes abought local ips but lets say if i tryed to ssh in from hear it would not allow it
[00:31] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: unless you whitelisted my ip
[00:31] <Shapeshiftr> what about SSH from local intranet?
[00:32] <gogeta> Shapeshiftr: it will allow it
[00:32] <Shapeshiftr> oh, that's what you meant.
[00:33] <pretender> Can anyone point me to a guide on mounting windows shares using credential file in fstab in ubuntu 10.04
[00:34] <gogeta> pretender: i always just use the connect to network menu
[00:35] <gogeta> pretender: if you windows has windows firewall in you will have to turn it off or add it ip to windows shares in the firewall
[00:35] <gogeta> pretender: same subnet doesent work for some reasion
[00:35] <thune3> star314: that process is X, and X can consume resources, expecially when there is visual activity on your desktop.
[00:35] <SamWeasley> do anyone knows any workaround for mencoder and faac?
[00:36] <Shapeshiftr> I <3 PuTTy
[00:36] <pretender> gogeta:  using the network menu does the mount sat there or do you have to do it each logon
[00:36] <Shapeshiftr> it makes server administration infinitely easier
[00:36] <gogeta> pretender: eatch reboot
[00:37] <SamWeasley> do anyone knows any workaround for mencoder and faac?
[00:37] <gogeta> pretender: i never check to see if you cac favret it or something simler
[00:37] <gogeta> can
[00:37] <SlidingHorn> !patience | samweasley
[00:38] <gogeta> pretender: lets find out
[00:38] <star314> thune3: As far as I can see there is no visual activity. The weird thing is that on my other computer, which currently runs another distribution, the CPU load in the idle state is almost zero.
[00:39] <gogeta> pretender: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares
[00:39] <star314> thune3: This effect appears only on my ubuntu setups.
[00:39] <gogeta> pretender: thats how to make it perment
[00:39] <Ichat> i would grately appreciate some enlightened info on ubuntu 10.04 x64 and raid    anyone got it to work properly and how, it failes me and i cant understand why and the forum doesn't seem to help me other than confuse me more
[00:39] <gogeta> pretender: that last line in that file
[00:40] <SlidingHorn> Ichat, we need some information about the actual problem (i.e. error messages, behaviors, etc).  I don't know anything about using RAID setups, but someone else here might
[00:40] <sebsebseb> !raid | Ichat
[00:41] <Guest61478> ubuntu help just let me know
[00:41] <mangojambo> Hi there... I made a configuration here that makes 1080p movies run from 100% to 16% usage of CPU ..
[00:42] <mangojambo> I used VDPAU library with and nvidia card
[00:42] <gogeta> mangojambo: you mean vlc or mplayer lol
[00:42] <mangojambo> smplayer
[00:42] <gogeta> mangojambo: how did i know
[00:42] <mangojambo> works great!!
[00:42] <star314> -vo vdpau ?
[00:43] <star314> mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau
[00:43] <star314> Can do that
[00:43] <star314> If supported by your hardware
[00:43] <Ichat> SlidingHorn:  -  when i go trough the installer  all seams fine,    diskmanager give me  my disks,  and it lets me  setup the raid devices, it than tells me that it formats my  md0 (raid 1)   ext 4   drive  as root and starts to un pack  / install all the packages right untill   the end.
[00:43] <Guest61478> mangojambo, how
[00:43] <thune3> star314: what tool are you using to monitor cpu? when i monitor with "system monitor", X consumes about 6%. But with htop it is ~0%.
[00:44] <tangli> 早
[00:44] <gogeta> star314: or no dubble buffer use open gl
[00:44] <gogeta> star314: offload it to the video card
[00:44] <mangojambo> Guest61478: first you need a nvidia card that supports vdpau ... the driver will install the /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.so file ...Install libvdpau1 and smplayer ... Go to preferences and configure video driver from xv to vdpau .. that's it!
[00:44] <star314> thune3: In the first case, I guess the problem is system monitor itself
[00:44] <gogeta> star314: once again if your hardware can handel it
[00:45] <star314> thune3: Perhaps I found the problem.
[00:45] <star314> it is gkrellm
[00:45] <star314> which I really like
[00:45] <sten2> hi, how to permanently start UFW at boot
[00:45] <Ichat> it than give me   a red screen and nothing else...   ctrl  alt   F4 give me all kinds of status messages....  on being that  mdadm is missing and that that there is no installable package for it and that its missing as a depend for an (unnamed other package)
[00:45] <gogeta> sten2: it aruldy is
[00:45] <jkalex05> i did a shink on my partition in windows 7
[00:45] <star314> but it takes - and I don't know why, constant 6%
[00:45] <jkalex05> and it only did 12mb?
[00:46] <Ichat> that and a bootstrap error 100  - thats all i could ever find out
[00:46] <mangojambo> but I'm trying to do it in my modest computer, with fx5200. The nvidia driver specification says 173 supports VDPAU, but it never installs!!
[00:46] <thune3> star314: yes, system monitor display is itself using X.
[00:46] <mangojambo> How can I make it works? I mean, the driver says it supports, but never work!!
[00:47] <SlidingHorn> Ichat, did you verify the .iso image?  again, I'm not the one to ask about RAID support, but it sounds like it's possible that your image is corrupted -- but a million different things can happen if your image is corrupted, lol
[00:47] <star314> gogeta: sorry, I'm a bit confused now. :) You're talking about the 1080p playback?
[00:47] <mangojambo> And the performance from the other computer was AMAZING!
[00:48] <gogeta> sten2: you can do ps -A and check for yourself
[00:48] <Ichat> SlidingHorn:  - yes i did -
[00:48] <gogeta> star314: what using opengl to offload it to the video card
[00:49] <gogeta> star314: good if you got a fast card
[00:49] <star314> gogeta: which command line options do you prefer when running mplayer?
[00:49] <gogeta> star314: i use the gui
[00:50] <star314> gogeta: ok, which important options have you enabled?
[00:50] <star314> vo=gl or vp=gl2?
[00:50] <star314> vo=gl2
[00:50] <star314> I mean
[00:50] <gogeta> star314: gl being my old card cant do gl2
[00:51] <gogeta> at least quickly
[00:51] <Ichat> SlidingHorn:  -  could you point me to some one who actually could know if this is my fault or its a real ubuntu bugg
[00:52] <gogeta> star314: no dubble buffer frameskip on
[00:52] <gogeta> star314: being sometimes videos like to lag
[00:52] <gogeta> star314: older pc however
[00:52] <star314> gogeta: ok, I'll try and compare the results to vdpau
[00:53] <Ichat> its not documented and i cant find anything on the forum that i could think is the same but than again im not verry 'ubuntu-ish to be able to tell the diference
[00:53] <sabot> Is it not possible to do a minimal installation on a wireless network?
[00:53] <gogeta> star314: well thats the fastest i got on my old pc so at least for me the least amount of gpu and cpu used
[00:53] <SlidingHorn> Ichat, this is all I could find on it...it's marked as having a fix, but I didn't check to see what it was.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/568050
[00:54] <ne7work> !flash
[00:54] <soupcan> trying again: can anyone offer any help with this issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1513562 specifically the part about using parted to fix the problem?
[00:56] <gogeta> star314: probly using gl with your render mode will be even faster
[00:58] <mtinman> Good Afternoon, All.
[00:58] <Guest61478> mangojambo, is smplayer good
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Ichat: It's definitely a bug in the installer (though it worked for me fine with a similar setup)
[00:58] <SlidingHorn> mtinman, howdy -- how can we help?
[01:00] <mtinman> SlidingHorn: I'm looking for a way to identify webserver software from my webbrowser, not sure how to do it.
[01:00] <Ichat> Jordan_U:  -   what did you do fo bypass it ?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Ichat: I meant that you didn't do anything wrong and therefore it must be a bug. I had no such problem.
[01:00] <SlidingHorn> mtinman, you mean verify that apache is installed?  in your browser's address bar type: http://localhost  or  http://127.0.0.1
[01:01] <mtinman> Example- I visit craigslist, and want to find out what webserver they are running from my browser, how do I do that?
[01:01] <mangojambo> Guest61478: yes, pretty good .. but I still preffering vlc
[01:01] <lakitu> howdo i figure out what drive is hd0 - what part uses that language? - & what part (what programs, etc) use sda?
[01:02] <lakitu> how do i find what hd0 corresponds to
[01:02] <Ichat> Jordan_U:  -  could you give me some details on what you have done and what it did - maybe  you did something that i didn't or you chose one other option than i did... at this point im willing to try a few diferent things to get my   local storrage up and running again
[01:02] <SlidingHorn> mtinman, I dont know if there's a way to determine that -- the majority of websites out there use linux servers running on apache.
[01:02] <SlidingHorn> mtinman, out of curiosity, why are you looking to do this?
[01:04] <lakitu> grub wants me to confirm
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Ichat: I just installed in a virtual machine for testing, since I never actually planned to use the system I didn't pay much attention and just chose the default options (beyond creating a raid1 array out of the first partitions of two disks).
[01:04] <mtinman> SlidingHorn: Curiosity, among other things, since they can see what I'm using as a browser when I visit them, I think that I should at least be able to know what they are using to serve.
[01:04] <SlidingHorn> mtinman, found this thread that had a couple good suggestions: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum23/2031.htm
[01:04] <mtinman> Like a cookie in reverse.
[01:04] <mom> what file does dmesg display?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Ichat: It sounds like the installer may have made it far enough that you almost have a booable system. Can you mount the array with a LiveCD and check if there is a kernel in /boot?
[01:05] <Random832> mom: it's not a file - it's an internal buffer maintained by the kernel
[01:06] <SlidingHorn> mom: it posts messages from the kernel.
[01:06] <mtinman> I have used netcraft, but they don't display the server OS or webserver software info.
[01:06] <lakitu> how to confirm hd0 <-> sda?
[01:06] <maxjezy> hello, i have a wacom bamboo pen, after update i can't use it
[01:06] <maxjezy> any ideas?
[01:06] <pattman> hi
[01:06] <lakitu> hd1 <=> sdb
[01:06] <lakitu> etc
[01:06] <jcxl> hey guys, I just set up public key authentication for myself on a remote server. If I were to disable password auth, would I be able to su root with the root password or would I need another key to log in to root?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> lakitu: If you're talking about grub2, then it doesn't actually matter. Everything uses UUIDs by default.
[01:07] <mom> Random832, its not /var/log/dmesg ?
[01:07] <maxjezy> brb. i'll try a reboot
[01:07] <maxjezy> been trying out stuff
[01:07] <lakitu> Jordan_U: so what about the "please confirm" or whatever it says, at the end of grub-install
[01:07] <lakitu> ?
[01:08] <SlidingHorn> mtinman, try the lynx solution -- the delorie now only allows that operation if the server has explicitly allowed it due to past abuses
[01:08] <Jordan_U> lakitu: It (and /boot/grub/device.map) will be removed in a future version of grub2
[01:08] <zoidberg-> hey
[01:08] <SoftwareExplorer> I ended up deleting the sound applet from my panel in 10.04. How can I add it back?
[01:09] <lakitu> for now, am i gonna be bootable?
[01:09] <zoidberg-> hey
[01:09] <lakitu> it was successful
[01:09] <Ichat> jordan -  i could try if you'd be willing to explain how
[01:09] <Random832> mom: no
[01:09] <Random832> it uses the syslog() system call
[01:09] <Random832> i think the dmesg contents are saved to /var/log/dmesg occasionally
[01:10] <Random832> [man klogctl]
[01:11] <trism> SoftwareExplorer: it's part of the indicator applet, so add that to your panel
[01:11] <acovrig> !sound|acovrig
[01:12] <lakitu> anyone - how to verify hd0 -> sda?
[01:12] <SoftwareExplorer> trism: Thanks! It worked. (What a descriptive name, huh?)
[01:12] <acovrig> can I use a cmd to check what soundcard I have for troubleshooting w/out having to open it up, cuz its not really a card, but onboard
[01:12] <mom> Random832, thanks!
[01:13] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys from install disk / recovery mode how do i change the run lvl to the no gui one so i can try to install the proper nvidia drivers.. or what else can i do here to edit the x session cuz without recover console i can't read anything on teh screen its all flickery and like 8 copies of its self can't make anything out
[01:13] <matrixa1> lakitu, administration→disk utility
[01:13] <SlidingHorn> acovrig, lspci -nn | grep audio
[01:14] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, returns ''
[01:14] <acovrig> or null
[01:14] <lakitu> matrixa1: tried that, could only find hd0
[01:14] <lakitu> no "sdx" language
[01:14] <lakitu> only hdn
[01:14] <matrixa1> lakitu, tries "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[01:14] <zoidberg-> sup
[01:14] <lakitu> ok
[01:14] <matrixa1> tried*
[01:15] <lakitu> that uses the sdx language
[01:15] <matrixa1> yeah it does
[01:16] <lakitu> oh - like compare them..
[01:16] <lakitu> that's kind of lame - nothing shows them side by side? what is the benefit - there must be one - to using sdx & hdn, rather than just one?
[01:17] <matrixa1> lakitu, you can have several partitions on a harddrive, therefore lets say sda1-4 partitions are on hd0 and the rest are on hd1
[01:17] <matrixa1> hd0 is the "physical" driva numbering
[01:17] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys from install disk / recovery mode how do i change the run lvl to the no gui one so i can try to install the proper nvidia drivers.. or what else can i do here to edit the x session cuz without recover console i can't read anything on teh screen its all flickery and like 8 copies of its self can't make anything out
[01:17] <Gryllida> How do I rename a package using the Terminal?
[01:17] <matrixa1> drive*
[01:17] <greezmunkey> acovrig: try the lspci without any options, then search through the result
[01:17]  * k-rad laughs
[01:18] <Typos_King> Gryllida:  just   mv it :)
[01:18] <lakitu> what is sda, if hd0 is the "physical"?
[01:18] <SlidingHorn> acovrig: do what greezmunkey says...if you don't see anything that pops out, google the motherboard and see if there's anything you can find on it
[01:18] <greezmunkey> acovrig: yup, that
[01:18] <greezmunkey> s about all there is...
[01:19] <matrixa1> lakitu, they are the partitions
[01:19] <acovrig> anyone know where I would find out what to modprobe for audio for an onboard *old* system
[01:19] <k-rad> i'm dying
[01:19] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, not much of a hardware person, where do I find out what motherboard I have
[01:20] <SlidingHorn> acovrig, it will show in the lspci
[01:20] <lakitu> boo k-rad -
[01:20] <lakitu> matrixa1: why not just use hd01 then?
[01:20] <matrixa1> lakitu, similarily hd(0,0) is the sda1 partition of hd0
[01:20] <lakitu> or that
[01:20] <Gryllida> Typos_King: isn't "mv" a command to relocate dirs? I mean rename a package that has already been installed
[01:20] <SlidingHorn> acovrig: if you need to, post the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and ask someone to look @ it
[01:20] <matrixa1> lakitu, it is used by grub
[01:20] <lakitu> why add another naming convention/way?
[01:20] <lakitu> only grub?
[01:21] <matrixa1> lakitu, can't answer that, but im sure grub uses it
[01:21] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452248/
[01:21] <lakitu> two naming conventions seems excessive, but what do i know - thanks
[01:21] <lakitu> i will try to compare
[01:21] <Typos_King> Gryllida: ohh...., not sure you can, without editing many stuff in the installation script files, which are by now done... why do you need such?
[01:22] <matrixa1> lakitu, just remember that grub begins counting from zero 0-4 in the hd(0,0) convention is sda1-5 in the other
[01:22] <Gryllida> Typos_King: but that would need a compile which I can't do; I want to rename it for another app to see it.
[01:23] <Cpt_Zyph> or better yet how to i change the xsession config settings to not load nvidia style drives and just some lesser ones so i can atleast boot into the OS / gui and try to install it that way
[01:23] <Typos_King> Gryllida:  well, that's how I'd think it's done :|
[01:23] <Gryllida> Typos_King: it's something-version now, while other apps look for "something" package
[01:23] <Cpt_Zyph> i have had this problem with fedora but the install let me go to console mode after install and then i was able to connect wifi and download the proper drivers
[01:23] <lakitu> they both only say sda or sdb, etc
[01:23] <lakitu> matrixa1
[01:23] <Gryllida> Typos_King: ok.
[01:24] <Gryllida> Typos_King: but I've already installed it, can't an apt-* line just rename the package?
[01:24] <Ichat> Jordan_U:     Boot is empty
[01:24] <matrixa1> lakeoftea, is sdb an usb drive you've connected?
[01:24] <lakitu> no
[01:24] <Typos_King> Gryllida:   sure, you can remove it, you asked how to rename the isntalled package
[01:24] <lakitu> both sda, sdb are physical internal harddrives
[01:24] <D3RGPS31> Anyone know of a good guide (from experience) with setting up a mail server
[01:25] <punto> is there a way to reset the xorg configuration on ubuntu? my gdm won't start because it says my graphics are misconfigured
[01:25] <lakitu> -physical
[01:25] <matrixa1> lakitu, i see, then sda sdb correspond to hd0 and h1 respectively
[01:25] <sebsebseb> punto: yes
[01:25] <lakitu> ok
[01:25] <Gryllida> Typos_King: I don't want to remove it..... I have installed it, now want to rename it, like 'apt-something rename oldpackagename newpackagename', is something of that kind available?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> punto: recovery mode from the bootloader and then do it
[01:25] <Typos_King> punto:     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg;
[01:26] <lakitu> then why does grub ask if they do then, matrixa1.. something's not right there
[01:26] <lakitu> or here
[01:26] <D3RGPS31> punto: from tty, sudo Xorg -configure && move ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11
[01:26] <matrixa1> lakitu, try running update-grub in the terminal
[01:26] <Typos_King> Gryllida:   no that I know of :S
[01:26] <lakitu> ok
[01:26] <harmandeep> Hi Guys ,
[01:27] <matrixa1> lakitu, it should detect automatically
[01:27] <prince_jammys> move -> mv , unless there's an alias now
[01:27] <harmandeep> anyone can help with Netgear WG 311v3 Drivers Installation in Ubuntu 10.04 64 Bit | via ndiswrappers ?
[01:27] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, what do I google, I'm not getting anything with 'sound' or 'audio' in it
[01:27] <matrixa1> lakitu, use sudo update-grub by the way
[01:27] <lakitu> i don't know - *Grub should do a boot verify to make sure it will boot* - that'd be awesome if possible
[01:28] <lakitu> so i don't get 'locked out'
[01:28] <lakitu> of my OSes
[01:28] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, will there be anything during boot - just before grub?
[01:28] <lakitu> matrixa1: i did, it threw some ugly looking feedback, so i did install again
[01:28] <SlidingHorn> acovrig, sorry, but could you do an lspci -v and paste it for me?
[01:28] <lakitu> ugly as in "something might be wrong with the setup"
[01:29] <matrixa1> lakitu, it doesnt detect the other OS:es?
[01:30] <lakitu> should all devices be mounted, before i install grub? if so, hwo to quickly do that
[01:30] <lakitu> ?
[01:30] <matrixa1> lakitu, read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:30] <matrixa1> i mean have you read this
[01:31] <lakitu> hold on
[01:31] <matrixa1> lakitu, it seems your drive is missing in the /boot/grub/device.map file
[01:32] <lakitu> i'm not sure abou thtat
[01:32] <matrixa1> lakitu, if you map it to let say hd1 it should be fine
[01:32] <niteye> /boot/grub/menu.lst isn't present in the newest version of ubuntu, how do i change the boot menu?
[01:32] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, BIOS Version 1.00.02.DH05
[01:32] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | niteye
[01:32] <niteye> ah its a new version of grub, thanks!
[01:32] <Jordan_U> niteye: You're welcome.
[01:32] <lakitu> matrixa1: that's old GRUB
[01:32] <mom> Random832, do you know how exactly dmesg works?  it reads from /proc/kmsg it looks like . . . but that file is empty
[01:33] <matrixa1> niteye, it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg now
[01:33] <lakitu> i should've said, im' in 9.10
[01:33] <Random832> mom: it calls klogctl() and that fills in a buffer - there's no file
[01:33] <Jordan_U> matrixa1: With grub2 there is nothing wrong with a device being missing in /boot/grub/device.map (device.map is being phased out)
[01:34] <matrixa1> Jordan_U, i see, good to know
[01:34] <Random832> i notice that if i cat /proc/kmsg, it doesn't end, maybe new messages get sent to it
[01:34] <lakitu> Jordan_U: so no need to verify, at the end of a grub2 install?
[01:34] <Random832> if something has it open
[01:34] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Correct.
[01:34] <matrixa1> Jordan_U, see if you can help lakitu out with sda sdb mapping
[01:34] <lakitu> Jordan_U: good to know
[01:34] <lakitu> ok
[01:34] <mom> Random832, oh because these ibm notes say: To inspect messages on the kernel ring buffer, you can use the dmesg utility (or work through /proc itself with the command cat /proc/kmsg)
[01:35] <lakitu> thanks matrixa1 & Jordan_U
[01:35] <Jordan_U> lakitu: You're welcome.
[01:35] <Random832> it looks like just new ones go there, and syslog reads it
[01:35] <Random832> i don't know
[01:35] <matrixa1> lakitu, no problem
[01:35] <Random832> i did a strace and dmesg works by calling klogctl
[01:36] <mom> Random832, ok, i just thought everything in linux was a file, so i thought the kernel buffer too
[01:36] <Random832> the unix API kind of evolved
[01:37] <Random832> originally tools like dmesg, ps, and so on had to open /dev/mem and search for the appropriate kernel structure
[01:37] <lakitu> grub rescue>
[01:37] <Random832> then various systems added system calls or files like /proc for different things
[01:37] <mom> Random832, my friend was curious what then writes /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg
[01:37] <soreau> ok after all system updates on a fresh 10.04 install, scripts in /etc/rc.local are not being ran (as they always have in past versions of ubuntu). What is the deal?
[01:37] <Random832> probably syslogd
[01:38] <clayg> is there a quick and easy way to disable to mouse touchpad?
[01:38] <soreau> I need to run scripts as root upon boot
[01:38] <soreau> rc.local is not running anything
[01:38] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, BIOS Audio Configuration: http://pastebin.com/Jnkhcja3 - lspci -v coming soon
[01:38] <lakitu> Jordan_U: grub rescue> =/
[01:38] <administrador> Oi
[01:39] <administrador> Tudo bem
[01:39] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Are you sure that you're booting from the drive you installed grub to?
[01:39] <maxwell> uia
[01:39] <maxwell> um br aki
[01:39] <lakitu> Jordan_U: i'll try the other
[01:39] <soreau> can anyone verify that anything put in /etc/rc.local is not being run at boot time on clean 10.04 install?
[01:39] <mom> administrador, ola ubuntu.pt
[01:39] <administrador> blz
[01:40] <Jordan_U> !pt | maxwell
[01:40] <SlidingHorn> acovrig: it may be very long...if you need to, do it this way so it saves to a text file: lspci -v > filename.txt
[01:40] <lakitu> Jordan_U: yes, i believe so. the other is windows loader
[01:40] <lakitu> or has windows loader
[01:40] <administrador> nao brazil
[01:40] <administrador> aqui
[01:40] <lakitu> ubuntu was installed last, soo
[01:40] <lakitu> so*
[01:40] <soreau> I need to run commands as root at boot time but putting them in /etc/rc.local is not working as it did in past versions of ubuntu
[01:40] <rww> !br | administrador
[01:40] <lakitu> it's not a case of paved over grub install
[01:40] <lakitu> hmm
[01:40] <lakitu> what to do
[01:40] <soreau> Is there something I need to activate in order to get /etc/rc.local to be ran at boot time?
[01:40] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, its done - http://pastebin.com/ny9nGKET = lspci -v
[01:40] <SwedeMike> soreau: put things in /etc/rc5.d, see what's in there and do the same.
[01:40] <lakitu> live cd & ..
[01:40] <lakitu> hm
[01:40] <clayg> is there a quick and easy way to disable the mouse touchpad?
[01:40] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Any error message before the rescue shell?
[01:41] <lakitu> yes
[01:41] <lakitu> i;ll check again
[01:41] <mom> oh its #ubuntu-pt
[01:41] <mom> too late oh well
[01:41] <bastid_raZor> clayg: normally, a laptop has a FN + something to disable it.. like mine has FN + F7
[01:41] <mom> i dont think there is #ubuntu-br
[01:41] <k-rad> i need not do anything for anyone
[01:41] <lakitu> GRUB loading / error: file not found
[01:42] <k-rad> is that funny ?
[01:42] <clayg> bastid_raZor, i dont see one on mine, but then again i've only had this unit for a few days - dell mini 10 if anyone has one/knows how
[01:42] <Jordan_U> !ot | k-rad
[01:43] <rww> mom: 51 people seem to think there is
[01:43] <mom> rww, pffff crazy people
[01:43] <mom> rww, more people believe in ufos
[01:43] <lakitu> k-rad - can the egoist bravado.. it sucks
[01:43] <acovrig> mom, u can see that it exists for yourself by typing /join #ubuntu-br
[01:44] <lakitu> sorry, but it does
[01:44] <lakitu> .
[01:44] <IdleOne> When trying to run a game I am getting error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. libstdc++6 is installed
[01:44] <IdleOne> any ideas?
[01:44] <mom> acovrig, thats just what those 51 people would like
[01:44] <acovrig> lol
[01:44] <rww> !ot
[01:45] <lakitu> any good ideas Jordan_U - at grub rescue> ?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: What game? How did you install it?
[01:45] <rww> IdleOne: 32-bit or 64-bit?
[01:45] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: Americas Army
[01:45] <IdleOne> rww: 64bit
[01:45] <clayg> how do you know if your touchpad is a synaptics pad or not?
[01:45] <thune3> soreau: i don't have 10.04, but "/bin/date >> /full/path/to/a/file" is always my debug check for if/when/how-many-times a script gets run
[01:45] <rww> IdleOne: might need ia32-libs installed
[01:46] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: sh ./armyops250linux.run  is the command used to install
[01:46] <rww> hrm, or not. what's it called now
[01:46] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: I thought the'd stopped supporting Linux
[01:46] <clayg> nm found it , to find out if you have synaptics pad do 'xinput list'  in terminal (if anyone else needs this solution)
[01:46] <IdleOne> rww: ia32-libs is installed
[01:47] <rww> oh. yes, ia32-libs. ubottu is just being stupid.
[01:47] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Try getlibs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[01:47] <Jordan_U> rww: ubottu checks the 32 bit repos, where ia32-libs doesn't exist :)
[01:47] <rww> Jordan_U: apparently
[01:47] <soreau> thune3: /etc/rc.local is not being ran _at all_
[01:48] <acovrig> !what|rww
[01:48] <acovrig> lo
[01:48] <acovrig> l
[01:48] <soreau> SwedeMike: Not really sure what you mean but I see it's supposed to be running /etc/rc.local
[01:48] <rww> o.O
[01:49] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: what does getlibs do exactly and how will it help me?
[01:49] <clayg> the way i found to disable to touchpad is to install touchfreeze, it is in synaptic
[01:49] <shauno> IdleOne: do you have libstdc++5 installed?
[01:49] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, did that say what motherboard I have?
[01:49] <IdleOne> shauno: Unable to locate package libstdc++5
[01:50] <shauno> hm, it's on my 8.04 machine.  I'll have to look to see what it may be called now
[01:50] <IdleOne> shauno: libstdc++6 in 10.04
[01:50] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: uses ldd to determine what libs an executable needs, then finds the packages to install to get those libs.
[01:51] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: auto-magically?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Yup.
[01:51] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: doesnt seem to be helping :/
[01:52] <shauno> It seems .5 disappeared in karmic.  both as a standalone (libstdc++5) and as part of ia32-libs
[01:53] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Try "ls" to list your devices, then "ls (hdx,y)/boot/grub" to find your grub directory. then run "set" and check that the value of $prefix matches that device/path.
[01:53] <bobsomebody_> I know this might be a retarded question, but can u pop a ubuntu desktop ISO on a dvd (assuming you have the hardware to do so)
[01:53] <noric> Aptitude thinks a package is broken.  I manually installed a higher version of a python dependency.  How do I tell aptitude the pkg isn't broken?  Thanks.
[01:53] <bobsomebody_> *and have it work
[01:53] <upgrading> hello I'm on intrepid and I have my harddrive partitioned into 2. how can I find out how big each partition is?
[01:53] <Jordan_U> bobsomebody_: Yes.
[01:54] <noric> upgrading, GPartEd
[01:54] <noric> upgrading, in system menu
[01:54] <bobsomebody_> ty Jordan_U
[01:54] <Jordan_U> bobsomebody_: You're welcome.
[01:54] <upgrading> noric, I don't have gparted in this version of ubuntu
[01:54] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, did that say anything about my motherbord?
[01:55] <noric> upgrading, try df -h ?  that may only show mounted partitions
[01:55] <upgrading> noric, installed gparted thanks
[01:55] <noric> nice
[01:55] <noric> figured you were on read-only live cd
[01:55] <Jordan_U> upgrading: I assume from your nick that you know that intrepid is no longer supported?
[01:55] <noric> Aptitude thinks a package is broken.  I manually installed a higher version of a python dependency.  How do I tell aptitude the pkg isn't broken?  Thanks.
[01:55] <Fudge> is there a reason why some ubuntu machiens cant boot without monitor? is it gdm or X?
[01:56] <upgrading> how big do ubuntu installs normally grow to?
[01:56] <mom> hmm there is no /etc/inittab
[01:56] <mom> in ubuntu
[01:56] <Jordan_U> !boot | mom
[01:57] <bastid_raZor> !upstart
[01:57] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, you still here?
[02:00] <sylbot_> guys i have a question about which flavor is best for my laptop of ubuntu
[02:01] <sylbot_> it is quite old
[02:01] <acovrig> can lspci -v tell me what motherboard I have?
[02:01] <sylbot_> it has less memory
[02:01] <sylbot_> and also it is ihaving less, cpu powers
[02:01] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Still there?
[02:01] <acovrig> sylbot_ just how much less?
[02:02] <acovrig> sylbot_, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[02:02] <dustin__> whois
[02:02] <sylbot_> it has 512 mb
[02:02] <sylbot_> and 1.8 ghz celeron cpu
[02:03] <sylbot_> acovrig, also I tried netbook remix, but it is really too slow
[02:03] <acovrig> sylbot_ I ran a cmd-line install of ubuntu on a 64MB desktop designed fro win95 lol, did u get my link?
[02:04] <bastid_raZor> sylbot_: xubuntu does well with less than 1GB RAM
[02:04] <sylbot_> acovrig, i did but i am not an advanced user, and I like the graphic interphases
[02:05] <acovrig> sylbot_, xubuntu is basically ubuntu, but it uses the xfce interface instead of gnome, that is basically the link (the finished product), so u don't need to be too advanced (just like installing ubuntu)
[02:06] <mom> if another person is logged into a gnome session and i do shutdown -k +5, how will they see the shutdown message?
[02:06] <acovrig> sylbot_, xubuntu ran quite well on my 512MB, AMD 64-bit
[02:06] <BeWop> I installed libgl1-mesa-swx11 on my netbook remix in order to play a game, but now neither my driconf is working nor is my netbook interface up to speed. I went to uninstall it, but now it's saying it'll uninstall everything to do with graphics, including my xserver along with it. How do I uninstall the single package without uninstalling everythign else?
[02:07] <Jordan_U> mom: They won't (if they're not using the terminal at the time).
[02:07] <mom> Jordan_U, there is no way to send shutdown messages through gnome?
[02:07] <sauceboat> is there a way to use gaim for the upper right chat thing
[02:08] <acovrig> mom, I'd recommend `sudo -u <other-user> zenity —question —text="Shutdown?"`, or something like that
[02:08] <acovrig> mom, assuming ur sending that via ssh, or something like that
[02:09] <Jordan_U> mom: I didn't say that, just that the shutdown command doesn't do it automatically (and I don't know the canonical way to do it)
[02:10] <onix> hello, is there a simple way I can install windows from my recovery dvd and not having to do liveCD and partitioning things after?
[02:10] <onix> because I don't have a LiveCd
[02:10] <BeWop> I installed libgl1-mesa-swx11 on my netbook remix in order to play a game, but now neither my driconf is working nor is my netbook interface up to speed. I went to uninstall it, but now it's saying it'll uninstall everything to do with graphics, including my xserver along with it. How do I uninstall the single package without uninstalling everything else?
[02:10] <onix> I want dual boot Windows on Linux
[02:10] <mom> acovrig, mmm zenity is cool, that would be fun for practical jokes
[02:10] <onix> (Linux already up)
[02:11] <acovrig> onix, if u have a >2GB flashdrive, u can use it as a LiveCD
[02:11] <Jordan_U> mom: If you use zenity, make sure you set $DISPLAY correctly.
[02:11] <acovrig> mom, I have too much fun with it, but I have the computer with the other use running openfire (xmpp chat server) so I can just talk to them anyway
[02:11] <marine1> Hp 4500 wireless successfully installed fax copy and print work except for scanning, when launching x-sane it doesn't recognize my scanner just the web cam
[02:11] <acovrig> mom, or specify —display=:0.0
[02:11] <mom> sudo -u mom zenity --question --text="What are you doing up?"
[02:11] <onix> acovrig: I think I have, will it still work as a normal USB key or only a botting one?
[02:12] <acovrig> u'll need to format it, so not quite
[02:12] <onix> oh, ok
[02:13] <onix> I have also an external hard drive so it won't matter (I hope) x)
[02:13] <BeWop> Anyone?
[02:13] <acovrig> onix, pendrivelinux.com is quite cool&helpful
[02:14] <sylbot_> k, i am back.
[02:14] <sylbot_> I am installing xbuntu with wubi
[02:14] <sylbot_> is there any disavantages
[02:15] <acovrig> sylbot_, not that I know of
[02:15] <marine1> Hp 4500 wireless successfully installed fax copy and print work except for scanning, when launching x-sane it doesn't recognize my scanner just the web cam.  Hplip is installed and running but wat up wit dat??
[02:15] <sylbot_> also on a dell latitude d600 if it helps. acovrig
[02:15] <lakitu> do devices/partitions have to be mounted before a grub-update or instasll?
[02:15] <lakitu> install
[02:16] <sylbot_> and is there drivers for mobility radeo 9000
[02:16] <majnoon> !ot
[02:16] <sylbot_> which i believe is my graphics
[02:16] <onix> I don't feel very safe with dd manipulations https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot (I never did them), isn't there a safe way for Windows on Linux?
[02:16] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Are you trying to install grub from a LiveCD?
[02:16] <bastid_raZor> onix: vmware or virtualbox?
[02:17] <onix> bastid_raZor: I will check
[02:17] <marine1> Hp 4500 wireless successfully installed fax copy and print work except for scanning, when launching x-sane it doesn't recognize my scanner just the web cam.  Hplip is installed and running but wat up wit dat??
[02:17] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, I think its dual boot
[02:17] <marine1> nned help
[02:17] <marine1> need help
[02:17] <SlidingHorn> !patience|marine1
[02:17] <lakitu> Jordan_U: yes, iwas - i am back in, but it did not pick up my windows 7 loader(s)
[02:17] <bastid_raZor> onix: those are virtual machines, and not dual boot
[02:17] <marine1> with scanner not being recognized
[02:18] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, did u look at my pastebin?
[02:18] <onix> bastid_raZor: I know, I haven't think of it before
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !scan | marine1
[02:18] <SlidingHorn> acovrig: I did -- I'm sorry but I wasn't able to find anything
[02:18] <Jordan_U> lakitu: Why are you booted from the LiveCD if you can boot Ubuntu normally?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> marine1:  on 10.04?
[02:18] <acovrig> there is no driver for my printer, can I ask for one to be made?
[02:18] <bastid_raZor> onix: ah, it may be the way to go.. i have vmware running windows 2000 for my wifes work. it does extremely well.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> marine1: have you tried Simple Scan?
[02:18] <lakitu> Jordan_U: i couldn't - now could - but am withoiut windows lines in the grub loader
[02:19] <bricky> is there a way to automatically turn on your computer after say 10 minutes of it shutting down
[02:19] <sylbot> Hey I had to join again.
[02:19] <bricky> sometimes it over heats and im not there so that would be exceptional
[02:20] <acovrig> is there a cmd that will tell me what motherboard I have?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> lakitu: If you are booted into Ubuntu normally then no, you shouldn't need to manually mount anything for update-grub to pick up windows (but your windows parition needs to be mountable, as os-prober will need to mount it)
[02:20] <sylbot> Anyways how to know if gfx drivers for radeo mobility are there.
[02:20] <onix> bastid_raZor: I don't have many needs for windows so I think it'll suffice
[02:20] <bricky> acovrig: try lspci
[02:20] <sylbot> And how to use grub v.98
[02:20] <bastid_raZor> onix: best of luck :)
[02:20] <bricky> acovrig: try lspci  -vv
[02:20] <onix> ty
[02:21] <marine1> sebsebseb: on 9.04
[02:21] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | sylbot
[02:22] <sebsebseb> marine1: oh right
[02:22] <sylbot> Yes thanks ubottu. But I heard from friend grub2 may have gliching. How to install grub .98.
[02:22] <sebsebseb> marine1: got a new scanner or?
[02:22] <bricky> acovrig: if that doesnt do it try sudo lshw
[02:22] <marine1> sebsebseb: yes 4500 wireless hp
[02:22] <bricky> is there a way to automatically turn on your computer after say 10 minutes of it shutting down?
[02:22] <SlidingHorn> sylbot: ubottu is a bot -- why would you want to install .98?  and what is "glitching" about grub2?
[02:22] <sebsebseb> marine1: wireless hp ah
[02:22] <lakitu> am trying something, bb
[02:22] <marine1> sebsebseb: fax,copy print scan
[02:23] <sebsebseb> marine1: ok right,  uhmm
[02:23] <Jordan_U> sylbot: There is no grub 0.98, there is 0.97 and 1.98. What problem are you having with grub2 (1.98)?
[02:23] <lakitu> Jordan_U: ^
[02:23] <sebsebseb> marine1: when you buy hardware for Ubuntu
[02:23] <sebsebseb> marine1: or another Linux distribution
[02:23] <acovrig> bricky, http://pastebin.com/Vs2LJpYe
[02:23] <sebsebseb> you can't just go and buy anything
[02:23] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: sudo lshw    .. it will be the first on the list.. use shift pgup to scroll up
[02:23] <sebsebseb> you hae to make sure there is Linux support :)
[02:23] <sylbot> I don't know just recommend from friend grub .98 or .97 is best one. One of those. Must be .97.
[02:23] <sebsebseb> marine1: otherwise you got to configure and that won't be that easy
[02:24] <Jordan_U> sylbot: I would disagree with your friend.
[02:24] <sylbot> Okay thx
[02:24] <sebsebseb> marine1: also  standard wireless,  can be a right issue to set up, when its not just supported by the OS, so  scanners hrm
[02:24] <marine1> sebsebseb: ok let's start
[02:24] <sebsebseb> marine1: now I haven't done a scanner in Ubuntu myself, but
[02:24] <sebsebseb> marine1: I know that there is simple scan in 10.04 a scanning program, that is meant to make scanning easier and such,  plus the program that runs scanners, will have been updated quite a bit
[02:25] <bricky> acovrig: you can also get "hardinfo" from ubuntu software center
[02:25] <marine1> sebsebseb: i figured out the copy and fax part but not the scanner
[02:25] <sylbot> Alrighty then xbuntu it is :). And I looked in hardware compatibility and d600 latitude is there so must be working, right?
[02:25] <sebsebseb> marine1: ok why are you on 9.04? since that was your first Ubuntu?
[02:25] <bricky> acovrig: and sudo lshw   --- I think lspci only shows PCI stuff, sry
[02:25] <sylbot> Also mobility radeon 9000 proprietary drivers there
[02:26] <marine1> sebsebseb: i have no need to switch
[02:26] <sylbot> ?
[02:26] <aotianlong> ubuntu-cn
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marine1: I like 9.04 myself a lot,  but you are going to have to upgrade really, and probably sooner than you think,  since 9.04 will run out of support at the end of this October,  no more security updates
[02:26] <marine1> sebsebseb: i have figured out the print, fax mode but when I launch x-sane it doesn't see my scanner only the web cam
[02:27] <sebsebseb> marine1: 10.04 is also a Long Term Support release, so three years of support on the desktop, instead of the useual a year and a half
[02:27] <marine1> sebsebseb: thanks for the advice
[02:27] <marine1> sebsebseb: x-sane only see my web cam
[02:27] <marine1> sebsebseb: which is strange
[02:27] <bricky> how do I get programs to run at startup, a link to the desktop shortcut just pops up a txt
[02:27] <sebsebseb> marine1: cheese is for congiruing web cam, a program for doing that
[02:28] <sebsebseb> marine1: what I am trying to say here is that the hardware support for what you want to do will probably be better in 10.04,  and all your hardware might even just work
[02:28] <LADmaticCA> hello. anyone else have problems with notify-osd stopping randomly?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> marine1: and eventauly you have to get that release anyway.  since 9.10 will also run out of support at the end of April next year
[02:28] <sylbot> Hello I am looking for mobility radeon 9000 drivers. Is available?
[02:29] <Zela> hi sebsebseb
[02:29] <Zela> :)
[02:29] <marine1> sebsebseb:  i hear you Bro
[02:29] <Calibre> :D
[02:29] <moatbuilders> Good moorning peoples of the worlds!!!
[02:29] <marine1> sebsebseb: i don't like the look nor the features on 10.04
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marine1: neither do I
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marine1: I can help you customize so it looks like 9.04 :)
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marine1: doesn't take much
[02:30] <marine1> sebsebseb: That's another day
[02:30] <marine1> sebsebseb: why do you think the x-snae program  doesn't see my scanner just my webcam???
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !info xsane
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !xsane
[02:31] <sebsebseb> marine1: I don't think xsane is even for web cams, but I don't have a web cam either
[02:32] <lakitu> why can't i save grub.cfg - how to make it writable?
[02:32] <acovrig> bricky, that doesn't say anything about motherboard, but ethernet card
[02:32] <acovrig> lakitu, use sudo
[02:32] <sebsebseb> (we hae an old scanner here, but this is irevelivent, however may eventaully have it working in Ubuntu on other computer or something)
[02:32] <lakitu> thoguht i did
[02:32] <marine1> sebsebseb: i know it just shows webcam when I launch x-sane
[02:32] <bricky> acovrig: hardinfo says everything
[02:33] <sebsebseb> marine1: I can't really try and help you anymore,  stick around and and someone else probably can
[02:33] <bricky> acovrig: search that in software center ,
[02:33] <lakitu> sudo what
[02:33] <sylbot> Does someone willing to be helping.
[02:33] <greezmunkey> marine1: restart your box, and try again.
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !ask | sylbot
[02:33] <lakitu> acovrig: sudo what
[02:33] <acovrig> bricky, please wait - apt-get install
[02:33] <lakitu> i tried gksudo
[02:33] <lakitu> err sudo gedit, i mean
[02:34] <greezmunkey> lakitu: no! gksudo gedit ...
[02:34] <lakitu> oh
[02:34] <lakitu> goes to the back of the dojo
[02:34] <lakitu> ;(
[02:34] <sylbot> Is mobility radeon 9000 proprietary drivers there ?
[02:34] <lakitu> + * *
[02:34] <acovrig> lakitu, greezmunkey said it right, that way you don't have to use the terminal lol
[02:34] <bondiblueos9> is there any software where I can monitor my network usage but filter out any ip on my lan?
[02:34] <lakitu> i don't mind the terminal
[02:35] <lakitu> but, brb
[02:35] <soreau> sylbot: There is no proprietary driver that supports that card, or at least hasn't for years now
[02:35] <soreau> sylbot: The open radon driver should be working OOTB
[02:35] <sylbot> Thanks soreau but where I find this.
[02:35] <lakitu> still says it's read only
[02:35] <lakitu> when i try to save it
[02:36] <matt4578> hey guys, I have a question im hoping someone can help with. how does ubuntu achieve adding the "format" option when right clicking on a drive? I'm trying to replicate that while using susestudio.org
[02:36] <soreau> sylbot: I assume you're having some problem with your radeon 9000 card?
[02:36] <lakitu> i'm doing  "gksudo gedit", then open /boot/grub/grub.cfg or whatever
[02:36] <lakitu> hit save, & it says the disk is read-only
[02:36] <sylbot> It not being recognize in ubuntu netbook remix. I am install xbuntu and try again.
[02:36] <bastid_raZor> lakitu: you don't edit that file.
[02:37] <bricky> acovrig: you can also take off the side panel or look up your PC model to find out,
[02:37] <kthomas_vh_> I'm installing lubuntu,  on screen 5 of 7,  "who are you",  screen seems responsive but I can't click & enter anything into boxes;  ???
[02:37] <lakitu> i have a edited version i want to use
[02:37] <Veixes> How do I install .tar.gz files? What I'm trying to do is to add a plugin to pidgin which I got from a website. Plugin is, pidgin-tollbar shink. I already have installed and running Pidgin 2.7.1. Any help ?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> lakitu: What do you want to change?
[02:38] <lakitu> Jordan_U: isn't grub.cfg the file i rewrote, last time around?
[02:38] <sylbot> Well thank you for tons of help and sorry for English. Bye for now.
[02:38] <lakitu> with the password, etc
[02:38] <BeWop> So I installed libgl-mesa-swx11 as a dependancy for a game, because apparently it's ubuntu's libgl-so.1 or something like that, but now after installing it, everything is slow, my driconf says I can't do direct rendering anymore, my NBU interface is horribly slow and it used to run like a charm. Naturally I just tried to uninstall it, but when I mark it for removal, absolutly everything to do with video is also marked for removal, from fs
[02:38] <BeWop> SO, how can I revert back to my previous video settings or just do something to remove this problem?
[02:38] <lakitu> bye sylbot =)
[02:39] <acovrig> bricky, is there a cmd-line version?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> hi Calibre
[02:39] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: sudo lshw tells you about your motherboard.
[02:39] <Calibre> :_
[02:39] <Calibre> :)
[02:39] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, sadly no
[02:39] <sebsebseb> calibre /  Zela
[02:39] <Zela> Lol
[02:40] <Zela> sebsebseb, remember me?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> Zela: pm
[02:40] <Zela> k
[02:40] <tyrosine> I WANT TO TEST some software which records from the microphone.  I want to "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/microphone" but what is the /dev/microphone device for PulseAudio?
[02:41] <jason8> anyone know why i cant runthe live version of Ubuntu with my TV
[02:41] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: it will give you enough information about your board to allow you to search online for more detailed information
[02:41] <matt4578> does anyone know anything about the "format" option when right clicking on mounted media?
[02:41] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, I am trying to figure out what sound device I have (not a card-onboard), so I am hoping that there will be *some* documentation on my motherboard that'll tell me what module to use for sound
[02:41] <lakitu> i got it, i think
[02:41] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: how is this device connected to your computer?
[02:42] <soreau> ! anyone | matt4578
[02:42] <greezmunkey> acovrig: is it a brand name pc, or a built box?
[02:42] <BeWop> So I installed libgl-mesa-swx11 as a dependancy for a game, because apparently it's ubuntu's libgl-so.1 or something like that, but now after installing it, everything is slow, my driconf says I can't do direct rendering anymore, my NBU interface is horribly slow and it used to run like a charm. Naturally I just tried to uninstall it, but when I mark it for removal, absolutly everything to do with video is also marked for removal, from fs
[02:42] <Veixes> How do I install .tar.gz files? What I'm trying to do is to add a plugin to pidgin which I got from a website. Plugin is, pidgin-toolbar shink. I already have installed and running Pidgin 2.7.1. Any help ?
[02:43] <greezmunkey> acovrig: can you paste the output of "sudo lshw" as well?
[02:43] <acovrig> greezmunkey, built? got it as a hand-me-down from a gradeschool, micron cpu
[02:43] <acovrig> greezmunkey, apt-get install lshw?
[02:43] <matt4578> ubottu: sorry. I am trying to figure out how ubuntu put the "format" option when right clicking on removable media. what package or setting is changed. I'm trying to replicate it in a distro im making using susestudio.org
[02:44] <tulimaq_> Veixes: u probably need to extract the files and put them in to pidgins pligins dir
[02:44] <jason8> how do i run unbuntu on my TV i get a message stating that its not supported on my TV
[02:44] <greezmunkey> acovrig: no, in a terminal type: sudo lshw - the copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <greezmunkey> acovrig: paste the resulting url back here please.
[02:44] <acovrig> greezmunkey, pastebin not needed, "-bash: lshw: command not found"
[02:45] <techhelper1> apt-get install lshw
[02:45] <greezmunkey> acovrig: paste the result of: echo $PATH here please
[02:45] <acovrig> just a sec, "(Reading database…"
[02:46] <acovrig> greezmunkey, "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" = $PATH
[02:46] <Veixes> tulimaq, it is a tar.gz file. I have to compile the plugin. I just dont know how. It has a read me but it sounds like Egyptian to me
[02:46] <BeWop> So I installed libgl-mesa-swx11 as a dependancy for a game, because apparently it's ubuntu's libgl-so.1 or something like that, but now after installing it, everything is slow, my driconf says I can't do direct rendering anymore, my NBU interface is horribly slow and it used to run like a charm. Naturally I just tried to uninstall it, but when I mark it for removal, absolutly everything to do with video is also marked for removal, from fs
[02:47] <bastid_raZor> Veixes: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware   it will help you understand what you need to do.
[02:47] <greezmunkey> acovrig: change directory: cd /usr/bin - then type ls to list the contents - is lshw there?
[02:47] <techhelper1> bewop please don't repeat in here it causes annoyances and further makes you problem not get solved
[02:47] <tulimaq_> Veixes: can u give a link for that plugin ?
[02:47] <techhelper1> greezmunkey if lshw isn't installed on their
[02:47] <techhelper1> their is no point to search for it
[02:47] <Veixes> tulimaq_:  https://launchpad.net/pidgin-toolbar-shrink
[02:47] <techhelper1> that is how come i said apt-get install lshw
[02:48] <greezmunkey> techhelper1: I have not heard of an install that didn't have it.
[02:48] <Veixes> bastid_raZor: thanks
[02:48] <greezmunkey> techhelper1: agreed, didn't see that.
[02:48] <techhelper1> and he said (Reading Database...
[02:48] <BeWop> techhelper1: I'm just making sure I can't get new help from someone
[02:48] <jason8> i need help
[02:48] <BeWop> techhelper1: I'll just wait 5 min before posting again
[02:48] <greezmunkey> techhelper1: sorry about that, I see it now.
[02:49] <techhelper1> i had to so apt-get install lshw in debian on a vps i have
[02:49] <bastid_raZor> Veixes: good luck
[02:49]  * greezmunkey sits back and eats a potato chip...
[02:49] <Veixes> bastid_raZor: lol thanks for that too
[02:51] <acovrig> greezmunkey, http://pastebin.com/ztuVGyPa - I googled TC430HX, and found a *.exe, but that does me no good, can I figure out what audio device I have from that?
[02:51] <xyz> hey i am not able to boot into ubuntu 10.04. i get this message when i boot:   error: unknown filesystem   grub rescue>     can anyone help me out. I am now in live session
[02:51] <DarkPlayer> Hey, guys i have a problem with unbuntu 9, it hangs during the boot screen. I can start into the console and start the X server manualy, get some gnome errors, but at least it boots. So does anyone have an idea?
[02:51] <Veixes> can I use .dll in linux?
[02:51] <techhelper1> what did you format your ubuntu partition as? xyz
[02:51] <tulimaq_> Veixes: u can just use PPA and get prebuilt binary
[02:51] <techhelper1> Veixes: no
[02:52] <greezmunkey> acovrig: check this: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fdownload.intel.com%2Fsupport%2Fmotherboards%2Fdesktop%2Ftc430hx%2F28182002.pdf&rct=j&q=TC430HX+motherboard&ei=KHQdTO_dLsyknweuyJnnAw&usg=AFQjCNFzgMUkQLHsq6WifZl-hLAK9YAQzA
[02:52] <tulimaq_> Veixes: https://launchpad.net/~konradgraefe/+archive/pidgin-plugins
[02:53] <jason8> how do i run Ubuntu in a differnt screen res from boot
[02:53] <acovrig> greezmunkey, yea, that's what I found when I googled TC430HX - I got the exe from the tail of pg17
[02:53] <greezmunkey> acovrig: heh, if that does not work, maybe this will: ftp://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/tc430hx/28182002.pdf
[02:53] <greezmunkey> acovrig: it's the specs of the mobo
[02:54] <xyz> techhelper1, i didnt format it.... since i had some disk errors i ran the fsck command
[02:54] <Veixes> tulimaq_: that would make things reall easy. Whats up with the  unsupported packages, risks?
[02:54] <techhelper1> what was the original file system on the drive?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Zela: support in pm hrm, if I do it here, other people could benefit as well, but who would actsauly read it
[02:55] <Zela> ok
[02:55] <Zela> :)
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Zela: most users don't want 10.04 to look like an older version of Ubuntu
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Zela: since either they don't know they can, or well they don't want to
[02:55] <techhelper1> xyz: what is the original file system on the hard drive
[02:55] <acovrig> greezmunkey, but that doesn't tell me any hint about what modprobe to use
[02:55] <danedaworld> Can someone help me with a problem with wifi being hard blocked?
[02:55] <tulimaq_> Veixes: well this plugin is not tested yet by dev team basically so use it at your own risk
[02:55] <Zela> ah
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Zela: plus theres this when it comes to pm
[02:55] <sebsebseb> !pm
[02:55] <greezmunkey> acovrig: it won't, search more on The audio
[02:55] <greezmunkey> subsystem is based upon the Yamaha YMF701 OPL3-SA FM synthesizer. The OPL3-SA provides
[02:55] <greezmunkey> all the digital audio and analog mixing functions required for recording and playing of audio on
[02:56] <Zela> sebsebseb, well I do, so there is no way i can change it?
[02:56] <xyz> techhelper1, ext3
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Zela: lets do it in the channel then, get a nice offical log of it as well :)
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Zela: this way
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Zela: yes you can remove  what you don't want, and customize to look like older versions
[02:56] <Zela> sebsebseb, ok
[02:56] <Zela> sebsebseb, I would like 9.10
[02:56] <Veixes> tulimaq_:  I see. direct from the source as is. Thanks for the time saver
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Zela: even better lets make it look like  8.10/8.04
[02:57] <danedaworld> just wondering, is this the help channel?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Zela: you'll see
[02:57] <Zela> sebsebseb, okies, this is reversable right?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Zela: yes
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Zela: of course
[02:57] <Zela> sebsebseb, ok
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Zela: first of all you need the old theme
[02:57] <Zela> sebsebseb, where do I get it
[02:57] <sebsebseb> !info human-theme
[02:57] <sebsebseb> !info human-legacy-theme
[02:58] <Zela> sebsebseb, uh?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Zela: theres also a legacy theme,  with the old icons by default, but you will get that with the human-theme
[02:58] <greezmunkey> acovrig: according to several sources ALSA drivers support your card. Did you check in the bios to be sure that sound has not been disabled?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Zela: system > preferences > terminal
[02:58] <Zela> sebsebseb, how do I download it
[02:58] <xyz> techhelper1, are you there
[02:58] <Zela> sebsebseb, oh
[02:58] <BeWop> So I installed libgl-mesa-swx11 as a dependancy for a game, because apparently it's ubuntu's libgl-so.1 or something like that, but now after installing it, everything is slow, my driconf says I can't do direct rendering anymore, my NBU interface is horribly slow and it used to run like a charm. Naturally I just tried to uninstall it, but when I mark it for removal, absolutly everything to do with video is also marked for removal, from fs
[02:59] <danedaworld> =(
[02:59] <techhelper1> xyz: have you ever used SpinRite on a harddrive before?
[02:59] <Zela> sebsebseb, so what do I type in terminal
[02:59] <jason8> anyone wanna help me
[02:59] <danedaworld> @techhelper1, can you help me with a problem I have with my wireless?
[02:59] <acovrig> greezmunkey, http://pastebin.com/Jnkhcja3 - http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Howto/BootPrompt-HOWTO-8.html said to use opl3sa, but modprobe couldn't find the mod
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Zela: sudo apt-get install human-theme
[02:59] <techhelper1> xyz: it would be to the point you either on SpinRite on the drive 1st, or buy a new hard drive
[02:59] <techhelper1> danedaworld what kind of wifi problem
[03:00] <danedaworld> i have a hard block
[03:00] <danedaworld> =\ the worst from what I have researched
[03:00] <xyz> techhelper1, i never used it....
[03:00] <techhelper1> best to buy a new hard drive then xyz
[03:00] <Arouca> Olaaaaa
[03:01] <techhelper1> danedaworld hard block?
[03:01] <xyz> techhelper1, its a new one....i got it replaced after the old one was giving me problems
[03:01] <Arouca> Alguém pode me explicar pk a pagina do meu ff está cinza?
[03:01] <Arouca> kkkkkkkk
[03:01] <mifadir> hi every body
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Zela: sudo apt-get install human-theme
[03:01] <Zela> sebsebseb, done
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Zela: then system > preferences > apperance
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Zela: and select it as the theme
[03:01] <Djioop> Just curious have they annouced any changes coming to the next ubuntu?
[03:01] <danedaworld> can I pm you?
[03:01] <mifadir> i wanna know how to rinstall grub after an windows installtion with 10.04
[03:02] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | mifadir
[03:02] <soreau> ! grub2 | mifadir
[03:02] <acovrig> Arouca, english/spannish?
[03:02] <mifadir> it's new i don't  how to fix it
[03:02] <Arouca> Alguém pode explicar???
[03:02] <Arouca> acovrig, what?
[03:02] <Zela> er sebsebseb i really dont like this one much lol, it is nice though, what about 9.10
[03:02] <Arouca> acovrig,  i speak portuguesse
[03:02] <onix> How do I install a .rpm? i don't see installer (the whole thing is 500MB)
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Zela: we aren't finnished yet, this is only the start
[03:03] <sebsebseb> Zela: it will have installed two human themes
[03:03] <sebsebseb> Zela: have a look
[03:03] <greezmunkey> acovrig: what generated that pastebin post, what command?
[03:03] <moatbuilders> mifadir: Maybe yoiu want to read all about it on the GNU pages and the web ?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> Zela: oh I think i'll  do this with you in my vm since yeah
[03:03] <techhelper1> onix rpm -i <file> or convert it to an .deb file to be installed by dpkg
[03:03] <Arouca> acovrig,  pode ajudar? uhahuauha
[03:03] <xyz> techhelper1, on my live cd i can still access my drives...though i dont have permission to read many files..... i do not want to lose them... and i wish to use the same disk... any solutions??
[03:03] <moatbuilders> Arouca: #es ?
[03:04] <onix> techhelper1: I try
[03:04] <acovrig> Arouca, there is a channel for ur lang
[03:04] <Zela> sebsebseb, since what?
[03:04] <jason8> how do i run installer if my monitor/TV isnt supported res
[03:04] <techhelper1> copy them off the harddrive
[03:04] <PlutoISaPlanet> #pt
[03:04] <techhelper1> to another one
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> onix: find a .deb for whatever you're doing. using an rpm is dangerous
[03:04] <Arouca> owwwww
[03:04] <Arouca> sorry
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Zela: since I got a vm where I want to do this kind of stuff with really
[03:04] <moatbuilders> np
[03:04] <techhelper1> bastid_raZor why is that?
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> !rpm
[03:04] <Arouca> acovrig,  sorry man
[03:04] <Zela> sebsebseb, ok, can I have my startup to look like it also?
[03:04] <acovrig> greezmunkey, what I saw on the screen after entering the BIOS Setup
[03:04] <luis_> hi to you all
[03:04] <PlutoISaPlanet> anyone here have any experience using an infrared receiver & remote control / lirc ?
[03:04] <DarkPlayer> hi
[03:04] <Arouca> acovrig,  now i see...this is Ubuntu...
[03:04] <techhelper1> you think it is dangerous because the bot says it
[03:04] <greezmunkey> acovrig: ok!
[03:04] <techhelper1> wow
[03:05] <sebsebseb> Zela: like previous versions of Ubuntu, no not easilly, but there are other better log in screens you can have instead
[03:05] <Arouca> acovrig,  I OPEN UBUNTU-BR
[03:05] <Arouca> acovrig,  sorry...
[03:05] <acovrig> Arouca, thats fine, someone was asking earlier
[03:05] <onix> bastid_raZor: techhelper1 vmware site only give rpms tt
[03:05] <moatbuilders> Arouca: GOOD FOR YOU :P
[03:05] <xyz> hey i am not able to boot into ubuntu 10.04. i get this message when i boot:   error: unknown filesystem   grub rescue>     can anyone help me out. I am now in live session
[03:05] <techhelper1> download the .tat.gz file
[03:05] <Arouca> acovrig,  ok...tks
[03:05] <techhelper1> tar.gz*
[03:05] <sebsebseb> Zela: ok human-clearlooks
[03:05] <techhelper1> and extract it
[03:05] <sebsebseb> Zela: is the theme I use, but I customize this a bit as well
[03:05] <onix> so i hope it will wpork
[03:05] <onix> work
[03:06] <tulimaq_> onix: and they have universal binarys as well
[03:06] <luis_> anyone knows how to connect PC to TV via VGA-->RCA COMPONENT?
[03:06] <Zela> sebsebseb, yea I really dont like the 8.04 one
[03:06] <Zela> lol
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Zela: what clearlooks or just human?
[03:06] <acovrig> greezmunkey, do I need to change anything there?
[03:06] <moatbuilders> Zela: Upgrade
[03:06] <Zela> moatbuilders, to what?
[03:06] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: no hes on 10.04
[03:06] <Zela> yes
[03:06] <Zela> lol
[03:06] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: getting customized to how things were like before :)
[03:07] <bastid_raZor> onix: you're trying to get vmware server or player?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Zela: which theme don't you like then,  human or human-clearlooks ?
[03:07] <phong_> hey guys
[03:07] <onix> bastid_raZor: server
[03:07] <phong_> i really love ubuntu
[03:07] <Zela> sebsebseb, both lol
[03:07] <phong_> it's the best os
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Zela: hrm
[03:07] <bastid_raZor> onix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[03:07] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: Good, good.
[03:07] <ianto> phong_: Thanks but this is primarily a support channel for those who need help
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Zela: the icons
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Zela: you see the Ubuntu logo
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Zela: next to applications
[03:08] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: Im frying some bacon and potatoes. Fairly nice i must say :=)
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Zela: that will be changed to the old
[03:08] <onix> bastid_raZor: thanks a lot, it's what I'm seeking for
[03:08] <Zela> sebsebseb, ah when?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Zela: thats the next thing to do with the theme
[03:08] <jason8> i need help anyone wanna help
[03:08] <sebsebseb> !ask | jason8
[03:08] <greezmunkey> acovrig: I really can't tell from that - I mean it looks fine as far as I can see.
[03:09] <Zela> sebsebseb, ah yea, I just like the different boot look.
[03:09] <xyz> hey i am not able to boot into ubuntu 10.04. i get this message when i boot:   error: unknown filesystem   grub rescue>     can anyone help me out. I am now in live session
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Zela: which boot look?
[03:09] <jason8> i ask but knowone responds
[03:09] <Zela> sebsebseb, 9.10
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Zela: oh xsplash ?
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Zela: the Ubuntu logo in the centre of the sceen on boot up?
[03:09] <Zela> sebsebseb, yes
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Zela: and its white
[03:10] <acovrig> greezmunkey, why doesn't `modprobe opl3sa2m` work?
[03:10] <jason8> im trying to install Ubuntu but my tv isn't supported durring install any way to change that
[03:10] <tulimaq_> jason8: what is the question ?
[03:10] <jason8> i think its just screen res
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Zela: thats in the repo for 10.04, but  like the old log in screen GDM,  you can't just install and use
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Zela: doing this theme stuff and that or not?
[03:11] <Zela> sebsebseb, ah no thanks i like 10.04 i guess lol.
[03:11] <andreaa> hi all
[03:11] <BeWop> So I installed libgl-mesa-swx11 as a dependancy for a game, because apparently it's ubuntu's libgl-so.1 or something like that, but now after installing it, everything is slow, my driconf says I can't do direct rendering anymore, my NBU interface is horribly slow and it used to run like a charm. Naturally I just tried to uninstall it, but when I mark it for removal, absolutly everything to do with video is also marked for removal, from fs
[03:11] <danedaworld> My wifi is hard blocked. I have all the necessary drivers, but I cannot turn on/enable my wireless connection. I have tried unblocking through rfkill but I get no response. Is there a way to enable the wireless and remove the hard block?
[03:11] <tulimaq_> jason8: try using vga=ask kernel parameter at boot and try different options
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Zela: uhmm  if you finnish you learn someting :D if not you don't,  and then you can change back to before if you want of course
[03:12] <jason8> not sure how to do that
[03:12] <Zela> sebsebseb, yea :D thanks bud for helping me :)
[03:12] <greezmunkey> acovrig: is the module resident on your system?
[03:12] <acovrig> greezmunkey, ?
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Zela: so yeah pick one of the themes, and then.  the next thing would be to.  go to customize
[03:13] <acovrig> how do I tell?
[03:13] <greezmunkey> acovrig: another way to say that would be is the software on your harddrive?
[03:13] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:13] <tulimaq_> jason8: hold shift when u see ubuntu logo, this will take u to the grub menu then edit kernel line and add vga=ask to the end
[03:13] <Zela> sebsebseb, ah ok :)
[03:13] <andreaa> I've just upgraded to 10.4, can anyone explain why I've to log in 2 times before seeing my desktop? The first time gmd fires up  I select my user and there is no way to input a password,  I click login then everything refresh, I've to select my  account again then I can input my pwd and login... is that normal? (info: there are other accounts and one of them is in autologin)
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Zela: maybe should have started removing features,  that aren't that good,  instead of changing theme, ah well
[03:13] <acovrig> greezmunkey, how can I get it, cuz I evidentally don't
[03:14] <Zela> sebsebseb, yea ill see
[03:14] <jason8> pressed shift and my tv says mode not supported
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Zela: window borders  human or human-clearlooks
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Zela: controls human or human-clearlooks.  so really the one you went with
[03:14] <sebsebseb> for both
[03:15] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:15] <wireshark> i google it but i didn't find anything
[03:15] <tulimaq_> jason8: do u have a spare monitor to do install part with ?
[03:15] <xyz> hey i am not able to boot into ubuntu 10.04. i get this message when i boot:   error: unknown filesystem   grub rescue>     can anyone help me out. I am now in live session
[03:15] <acovrig> I can't modprobe a mod, can't find it, how do I install/get it?
[03:16] <ianto> xyz: Have you been able to boot into Ubuntu previously or has this happened since the first boot?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Zela: have a look at the current system menu as well.  then go back to the theme thing or something,  since your going to put the Gnome icons instead for the theme :)
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Zela: oh yeah just click on system to see at the top
[03:16] <Zela> sebsebseb,ok 1 sec
[03:16] <jason8> i do but its under a shit ton of boxes
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Zela: eww purple preferences button aye?
[03:17] <Zela> sebsebseb, XD
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Zela: notice the purple with the default 10.04 theme
[03:17] <Zela> sebsebseb, yea
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Zela: sure you did
[03:17] <sylon>  i am getting a segfault while trying to play mp3s, can someone help pls?   also seeing this error when exaile starts http://pastebin.com/TVxmG3YA
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Zela: so yeah Gnome icons as well
[03:18] <bastid_raZor> jason8: you may be able to use the alternate iso to install with, then afterwards fix your monitor issue.
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Zela: then close it, and look at system menu again
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Zela: or first remove the
[03:18] <Pen> Is there a better dvd burning software for UBUNTU like "ConvertXToDVD" is for Windows. Using this program on default of Ubuntu called, "Brasero Disc Burner" and when making video, it goes by minutes instead of memory like most of the windows ones I've tried. Are their any other better DVD Burning Software for Ubuntu that are better than Brasero?
[03:18] <Zela> sebsebseb, yea i dont like hte purple.
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Zela: well thats the colour for their new branding :(
[03:19] <jason8> i got to something that say boot:
[03:19] <Zela> sebsebseb, purple
[03:19] <bastid_raZor> Pen: i prefer k3b  .. it will pull 200MB or so of kde libraries but is well worth it.
[03:19] <Zela> sebsebseb, brb
[03:19] <moatbuilders> Zela: Dont you like any of the 100 other music players ?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Zela: yeah
[03:19] <ianto> !poll > Pen
[03:19] <rmorgan> Pen:  There's a commercial DVD burner from Nero that's really good.  Plus, it's only $20 for the full linux version.
[03:19] <Zela> moatbuilders, huh?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> ianto: oh your in here
[03:19] <moatbuilders> Zela: Rhythmbox is a personal favourite of mine
[03:20] <ianto> sebsebseb: Boredom takes its toll as well as the time gcc takes to compile -_-
[03:20] <sebsebseb> ianto: oh right
[03:20] <Sensiva> Hello, I want someone to correct me if I am wrong, when forced filesystem check is due, ubuntu have them checked at the next reboot, and if those filesystems are not root of home, boot resumes while running check in the background. Am I right?
[03:20] <Pen> i'm not trying to turn a poll, just wondering others experiences .
[03:20] <xyz> ianto, i have been able to boot, then sometime back i ran the fsck command and since then i m unable to boot
[03:20] <bastid_raZor> Pen: also get kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:20] <Sensiva> root or home *
[03:20] <sebsebseb> ianto: well I am dong something here with Zela  that I guess really I have been wanting to do with someone else, for quite a while now
[03:21] <mifadir> moatbuilders i can deal with grub 1 but  grub 2 it's new to me :)
[03:21] <moatbuilders> ianto: Line up the compiled in a strict fashion and go to sleep. That way all the time you have wasted would have been so itherhow :)
[03:21] <Pen> what's so good about Kubuntu ?
[03:21] <Pen> bastid_raZor,
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Pen: its not that good, but some of the apps are really good
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Pen: and you can run those in Gnome/Ubuntu as well :)
[03:21] <ianto> xyz: Right well,  do you know which partition you have installed Ubuntu too and also do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> Pen: i agree with sebsebseb
[03:21] <patx> where are the fonts located?
[03:22] <moatbuilders> mifadir: Its like grub one but its somewhat more potent. Grub with it and itll play nice :=)
[03:22] <jason8> bastid, i got to a screen that says boot: is that good?
[03:22] <xyz> ianto, can you tell me how to check it...I am a bit new to ubuntu and i didnt create a seperate /boot partition
[03:23] <ianto> xyz: If you disk
[03:23] <Pen> alright
[03:23] <Zela> gggr sebsebseb i have to go ill be back later though
[03:23] <mifadir> latest supergrub will fix it !
[03:23] <ianto> xyz: Sorry,  if you type "sudo fdisk -l" what happens?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Zela: oh :(
[03:23] <Zela> :<
[03:23] <Zela> ;-;
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Zela: ok well next time, you know where to find me
[03:23] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:23] <moatbuilders> mifadir: Watch out!, it might grub your palms together :=)
[03:23] <Zela> ok:)
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Zela: the more fun will be next time
[03:23] <ianto> xyz: Can you copy and paste the output to pastebin?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Zela: with the customizing
[03:23] <ianto> !pastebin > xyz
[03:23] <Zela> sebsebseb, indeed :D
[03:24] <bastid_raZor> jason8: you're using the alternate iso?
[03:24] <jason8> not sure where that is?
[03:24] <xyz> ianto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452281/
[03:25] <moatbuilders> wireshark: I like to play some Chromium :)
[03:25] <moatbuilders> BSU
[03:25] <wireshark> what do you mean moatbuilders?
[03:25] <moatbuilders> check the game
[03:25] <wireshark> what game?
[03:26] <moatbuilders> ...
[03:26] <ianto> xyz: Okay type the following "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt && cd /mnt && ls", do you see a folder called boot appear?
[03:26] <moatbuilders> Nice weather today
[03:26] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:26] <wireshark> could anyone help?
[03:26] <moatbuilders> http://www.google.se/#q=chromium+bsu&hl=sv&prmd=v&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=V3wdTMrkMKGkOPuH1LkM&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEAQqwQwAw&fp=74422f970010a2ea
[03:27] <xyz> ianto, no i can see only 2 files lost+found and my home folder with my
[03:27] <xyz> name
[03:27] <PlutoISaPlanet> can anyone here help me with lirc?
[03:27] <damian> anyone overcome the issue using r8168 Realtek NIC? i'm actually using a rebranded, but it still uses the same chipset i believe
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !info lirc
[03:27] <ianto> xyz: Okay thanks,  type "cd .. && sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt && cd /mnt && ls"  Does boot now appear?
[03:27] <moatbuilders> wireshark: A very nice shoot em up game, like lizzard etc.
[03:28] <wireshark> moatbuilders:  i really didn't understand why you sent me this game
[03:28] <wireshark> is this solution to my problem moatbuilders?
[03:28] <moatbuilders> wireshark: Be more serious and ill have to bend you off of the toliet or so :=)
[03:28] <wireshark> what?
[03:29] <acovrig> greezmunkey, I'm back, how do i get/install the mod?
[03:29] <XDS2010> hi ?
[03:29] <XDS2010> who's got 85cents to spare via pp?
[03:29] <acovrig> ?
[03:29] <moatbuilders> wireshark: relax, its all good.
[03:29] <sebsebseb> !troll | moatbuilders
[03:29] <ianto> XDS2010: This isn't the correct place to be asking for that
[03:30] <XDS2010> im buying some drugs and alchol :P
[03:30] <ianto> !troll > XDS2010
[03:30] <moatbuilders> !troll | yeesh
[03:30] <XDS2010> omg it was a joke
[03:30] <wireshark> moatbuilders:  if you can't help don't talk to me
[03:30] <xyz> ianto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452283/
[03:30] <XDS2010> sheesh
[03:31] <XDS2010> s9 you around ?
[03:31] <XDS2010> still looking for those HVR drivers
[03:31] <moatbuilders> wireshark: I was joking. You clearly wanted a plugin for some music player and i suggested a pause to play a good game ?
[03:32] <wireshark> moatbuilders:  did you understand my problem?
[03:32] <ianto> xyz: Basically it looks like your file-system has become corrupted then,  thankfully however your /home directory has remained in-tact.  You can run some disk checks on your hard disk to see if you can recover errors if you wish or reinstall Ubuntu keeping most of your settings and all of your /home folder files in tact.
[03:32] <acovrig> XDS2010, yea, but a joke causing the noobs to type '/quit' got me kicked lol
[03:32] <sebsebseb> !noob
[03:32] <moatbuilders> wireshark: "YES" -> wireshark: <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?"
[03:33] <xyz> ianto, so how can i retain my files and get everything alright
[03:33] <wireshark> so moatbuilders what i have to do?
[03:33] <ianto> xyz: "fsck -pf /dev/sda6" try that first though
[03:33] <ianto> xyz: Actually: sudo fsck -pv /dev/sda6
[03:34] <ianto> xyz: Sorry I mean sudo fsck -pf /dev/sda6
[03:34] <moatbuilders> wireshark: I have no ideea. Didnt find it to be much of a problem. This is why i suggested a good game of Chromium BSU (Chromium beeing the same name as you thought yould be able to use as the music player plugin or so)
[03:34] <xyz> ianto; ok i'll try out
[03:34] <ianto> I should really check what I'm typing before enter-key is pressed
[03:35] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: stop being silly, when they want support!
[03:35] <xyz> ianto; can you check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452284/
[03:35] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: unless maybe the other person, is a total idiot, which isn't the case here
[03:35] <wireshark> i cant understand moatbuilders what are trying to say with this game
[03:36] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: To what extent :) ... I mean, i could help them play the game for them, should the matter be of that nature.
[03:36] <wireshark> is this a help channel or what?
[03:36] <sebsebseb> wireshark: yes, but sometimes it gets idiots in it
[03:36] <sebsebseb> wireshark: who type stuff
[03:37] <bastid_raZor> wireshark: please repeat your question
[03:37] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: A music player plugin for some player that ive not heard of for 20 years, and i test most new software
[03:37] <wireshark> i am having this problem.. i looked at google...i install some codecs
[03:37] <wireshark> but the problem remains
[03:37] <wireshark> so i am not an idiot
[03:37] <rmorgan> wireshark: what's the issue?
[03:37] <sebsebseb> wireshark: I wasn't calling you an idiot
[03:37] <moatbuilders> Noone is an idiot
[03:38] <wireshark> ok
[03:38] <moatbuilders> Support has a bit of a limit i think.
[03:38] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: well you are being a bit like one at the moment, maybe :D
[03:38] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:38] <moatbuilders> Sorry, didnt notice. Ill do better.
[03:38] <ianto> xyz: Hmm this means that Ubuntu will need a reinstall.  From the LiveCD can you go through the steps of the install until the stage where you choose where you want to install Ubuntu and then message me again since then we can preserve your user settings and files?
[03:39] <sebsebseb> ianto: why aren't you helping moatbuilders  you like Chrome
[03:39] <sebsebseb> ianto: uh I meant to put wireshark
[03:39] <xyz> ianto; ohh but if i reinstall how can i not lose files??
[03:39] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: I think you see my questioning though.
[03:39] <Cpt_Zyph> how do i lower my graphics settings in recovery mode.. i read that might be my problem with my video after a fresh 10.4 install???
[03:39] <spoonb>  /WINDOW CLOSE
[03:39] <moatbuilders> :)
[03:39] <spoonb> Opps excuse me.
[03:39] <moatbuilders> nw
[03:40] <jason8> bastid, cant find out how to get to the kernal to edit it
[03:40] <moatbuilders> No worries
[03:40] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  i went there and they told me that is an issue of my distro
[03:40] <acovrig> how do I fix 'FATAL: Module opl3sa2 not found.'
[03:40] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: if you want some just well messing around a bit or whatever try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <ianto> xyz: Because the partition /dev/sda5 is intact and that is where you have kept your files.  The file system at /dev/sda6 is your Ubuntu partition where the operating system is installed to.  Ubuntu checks /dev/sda5 on your system to find your files and settings
[03:40] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: and you should only really type in here, if your going to be helpful when helping others, or have a problem yourself
[03:40] <sebsebseb> with Ubuntu
[03:40] <Cpt_Zyph> sebsebseb hey man its me still working.. almost done buti have been reading that my problem might be my resolution settings on a fresh install
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Cpt_Zyph: uh remind me what your issue was
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Hi edbian
[03:41] <Cpt_Zyph> sebsebseb and i was reading that i can hold shift to get to recovery mode and try to lower the settings .. how ever this part i dont exactly know how to do
[03:41] <xyz> ianto; so i have to resintall in sda5??
[03:41] <Cpt_Zyph> sebsebseb fresh install screen is flickering and un readable
[03:41] <edbian> sebsebseb, Hey.  It's nice to have a friend sometimes! :)
[03:41] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  could you help?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> wireshark: nah I use Firefox :)
[03:41] <ianto> xyz: I'll explain what to do when you get to the stage in the installer where you have to choose where Ubuntu is installed.  I hope that I can better sense of it to you there
[03:41] <Cpt_Zyph> sebsebseb with fedora i have to install console only and do a manual network connection to install proper nvidia drivers.. ubuntu i'm unsure what to do
[03:41] <sebsebseb> wireshark: Mozilla Firefox :)
[03:41] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: I tried to tell you that every question cannot, and should not be answered by you or anyone else in this channel. I thought that question was clearly out of bounds. I could be wrong, but i doubt it.
[03:42] <ianto> !home > xyz
[03:42] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: which question?
[03:42] <xyz> ianto; ya sure..i am starting the installation right away
[03:42] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  i prefer chromium
[03:42] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: and yes not all questions can be answered in this channel
[03:42] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: Its only natural
[03:42] <ianto> xyz: sda5 is where your home folder/directory is kept on the system that you setup so luckily that won't be erased
[03:42] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: however what I said before, really we shoudn't type in here, unless its helping someone else,  or  our own issue with Ubuntu
[03:42] <sebsebseb> !ot | moatbuilders
[03:43] <matelot> I need to create a shortcut to a folder - can Nautilus do that ?
[03:43] <moatbuilders> I like Oats! :)
[03:43] <xyz> ianto; so should i start with the installation or create a seperate /home directory??
[03:43] <Cpt_Zyph> have to go hope i can return and figure out how to fix this i would rather not reinstall fedora i wish to try this distro out.. take care
[03:43] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: this is old but see if your module/card is blacklisted.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/11868
[03:43] <evilsherpa> hey all, any idea how to transfer pre downloaded podcasts onto an ipod?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: Stop trolling already!
[03:43] <evilsherpa> onto the podcast dir
[03:43] <ianto> xyz: When it asks you where in the installer where you'd like to install click on advanced setup and I'll talk you through the steps
[03:43] <flip_> can some one help me out my sound wont work
[03:43] <Sensiva> Would someone please have a look at this question? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/112657
[03:44] <xyz> ianto; ok then i am starting the installation
[03:44]  * Cpt_Zyph[A] is now away - Reason : afk
[03:44] <bastid_raZor> evilsherpa: does the ipod mount?
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !away > Cpt_Zyph[A]
[03:45] <moatbuilders> sebsebseb: Trying to help you help others should not be called trolling. Never the less. Ill part and fend off evils as i wish.
[03:45] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: except you werne't being helpful with wireshark
[03:45] <ianto> xyz: The correct option should be titled "Specify partitions manually" or something similar
[03:45] <flip_> Can some one help me with a riptide soundcard i cant find nothing on it
[03:45] <xyz> ianto; i selected specify partitions manually
[03:45] <sebsebseb> moatbuilders: and some sillyness about a game as well?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> wireshark: Yay aye?  he just left?
[03:46] <Alkaizer> Hello i need help with Enhanced Ctorrent for the Iphone, i cant seem to connect to any trackers could anybody help please?
[03:46] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  i am here
[03:46] <evilsherpa> bastid_raZor, the ipod works exactly like it should, it mounts i can copy too it, and from it, playlists, not happening, but ive been told to expect that
[03:46] <Jordan_U> Sensiva: No, because any partition could be needed for proper operation (especially on a server).
[03:46] <ianto> xyz: Okay good,  right click on sda5,  what are the options called? (Sorry I'm not in the Installer atm so I can't remember the exact names)
[03:46] <bastid_raZor> Alkaizer: how is the Iphone relavent to #ubuntu?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> wireshark: yes, but that other guy just left
[03:46] <Sensiva> Jordan_U but that wasn't true in Karmic
[03:47] <ines> I'm having trouble finding the correct remastersys repository. Does anyone know where it is? Google just returns old repositories and if i replace "karmic" with "lucid", it doesnt work.
[03:47] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  so?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Sensiva: Imaging if your server booted without mounting the partition that has your SQL database.
[03:47] <sebsebseb> wireshark: he was derailing the channel a bit
[03:47] <bastid_raZor> evilsherpa: aren't podcasts just files you need to copy over?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Sensiva: Then I consider the current situation an improvement :)
[03:47] <xyz> ianto; change, delete, revert
[03:47] <Zelozelos> ok ive managed to figure out a bunch of the colors i wanted to change from this drab greay-like color scheme ive been stuck w since i messed something up, im using gnome color chooser...BUT...theres still a few i cant seem to find ive circled them in red here http://www.pasteall.org/pic/4064 any ideas anyone?
[03:47] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  i saw, but why you didn't kick him out of here?
[03:48] <evilsherpa> bastid_raZor, amarok manages it almost perfectly, except for podcasts, amarok can download them to local dir, but cant put them on the ipod, so im using gpodder, ive copied all the files into the gpodder dload dir, but unl;ess its actually dloaded through gpodder, i cant see it with gpodder, i mean its visible in the gpodder dload dir, but gpodder ignores them unless i re dload them, ad then overwrite the one thats there already
[03:48] <Alkaizer> bastid_razor it is same command and code as ubuntu version, not to familiar with ctorrent so thought somebody could help
[03:48] <Sensiva> Jordan_U do you know what package is responsible for that behavior? I want to adjust it. I am using a desktop
[03:48] <ianto> xyz: Click change,  then next to mount point, set it to /home and then make sure that the Format the partition box is NOT ticked
[03:48] <sebsebseb> wireshark: since I am not an op
[03:48] <Jordan_U> Sensiva: No, I don't. Sorry.
[03:48] <wireshark> where are the op?
[03:48] <ianto> xyz: Then do change on sda6, make sure that it is ext4,  that for the format box IS ticked and that the mount point is /home
[03:48] <Sensiva> Thank you
[03:48] <sebsebseb> wireshark: and he wasn't really trolling enough for the !ops trigger
[03:48] <evilsherpa> bastid_raZor, yeh but they are handled differently to normal music files, they have a set almost playlist, where they can be over wriden once listened too, its something thats a bit of an isue for linux
[03:49] <evilsherpa> im trying to find a way of editing the dloaded list in gpodder
[03:49] <evilsherpa> brb fpood
[03:49] <sebsebseb> wireshark: well they hang out in #ubuntu-ops
[03:49] <mrbook1> Can some one help a newbie
[03:49] <sebsebseb> wireshark: however only meant to join there if either your told to join there, or you want them
[03:49] <soreau> mrbook1: Not if you don't ask your question
[03:49] <xyz> ianto; when i installed previously i retained them as ext3...should i make them ext4
[03:49] <ianto> xyz: Sorry for sda6 the mount point is / not /home
[03:49] <bastid_raZor> evilsherpa: ah, then i am of no help. keep asking, someone will know.
[03:49] <ianto> xyz: Well ext4 is a preference for me but you can use ext3 too
[03:49] <wireshark> i don't know sebsebseb..i just i ask  for a help....nothing more nothing less
[03:50] <jason8> why wont this danm thing install
[03:50] <sebsebseb> wireshark: yeah and that guy started being silly with you, but he is gone now :)
[03:50] <bastid_raZor> Alkaizer: Iphone != ubuntu
[03:50] <wireshark> if anyone could help it's ok
[03:50] <xyz> ianto; okk so 1st which partition should i change
[03:50] <soreau> jason8: What isn't installing?
[03:50] <Zelozelos> also, im getting the htc google phone and i ws wondering if will be able to interact w ubuntu like it will for that other guy? its a smart phone so i can sync contacts, calendars n lots of stuff
[03:50] <soreau> ! ask | wireshark
[03:50] <moody> when i tried to intall ubuntu on my PC, after the install when it went to reboot, the computer shut down.  after that, it never started again.  upon further inspection inside the case, when i unplug it for about 30 seconds, then plug it back in, the light on the power source kicks on for a second, and the CPU fan spins about a quarter spin, then it powers back down.  the pc will not power on.  i tried to reset the CMOS by removing the battery for five minutes
[03:50] <moody> and replacing it, but no dice.  soooo... can anyone tell me, is it the power source, or the mobo?
[03:50] <wireshark> if noone can ok
[03:50] <jason8> i cant get the installer to support my TV
[03:50] <sebsebseb> soreau: he already asked earlier
[03:50] <sebsebseb> wireshark: you can ask again now
[03:50] <ianto> xyz: For sda5,  change the mount point to /home and make sure the formatting box is NOT ticked.  For sda6 make sure the mount point is / and that the formatting box IS ticked
[03:50] <ines> coulod anyone tell me if a Remastersys lucid repository exists?
[03:51] <ianto> xyz: When you're happy click forward and finish the install
[03:51] <mrbook1> I am running Ubuntu as a guest under Virtualbox. I would like to write a script so that my shared folders are automatically mounted when i boot up.
[03:51] <Alkaizer> so i take it that nobody here could help?
[03:51] <soreau> moody: Prime suspect would be PSU if I had to guess
[03:51] <Zelozelos> mody its prob not cmos, its prob the power supply
[03:51] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:51] <moody> Alkaizer, Zelozelos, do you think that the fact that it happened in mid-install of ubuntu was just coincidence?
[03:52] <ines> coulod anyone tell me if a Remastersys lucid repository exists?
[03:52] <bastid_raZor> !remaster | ines
[03:52] <rod2> hello i know its not very relevant to ubuntu exactly, but can anyone recommend an free/open-source easy to use cd/dvd burning software? (need to burn ISOs)
[03:52] <wireshark> soreau:  i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[03:52] <soreau> moody: Yes.
[03:52] <Zelozelos> mody yup prob only that,
[03:52] <flip_> I need help http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7a8d7db91b7deebc52914d87dd83edfb2ba9ac52
[03:52] <sebsebseb> rod2: Brasero or K3B
[03:52] <soreau> wireshark: I have no idea, as I don't use chromium
[03:52] <rod2> sebsebseb: thanks1111
[03:52] <sebsebseb> rod2: Brasero is the default in Ubuntu, but sometimes that program gets odd issues
[03:52] <rod2> lol shift fails
[03:52] <wireshark> i prefer brasero
[03:52] <ines> bastid_raZor, im interesed in using remastersys
[03:52] <jason8> now something happend to my USB drive and it wont boot freakin boot error
[03:52] <ines> bastid_raZor, where did it go, do you know?
[03:52] <moody> Alkaizer, Zelozelos, soreau, thanks guys... i'm relieved to hear its probably the power source and not the mobo.  much cheaper to replace!  :)
[03:53] <bastid_raZor> ines: follow the links ubottu offered.
[03:53] <patx> What computer is on the homepage? (www.ubuntu.com)l..l..
[03:53] <Zelozelos> mody power supplies are very cheap and easy to replace, lots of places carry them in store
[03:53] <rod2> hmm brasero already on ubuntu! good didnt know
[03:53] <sebsebseb> rod2: and K3B is a KDE app, so if not installed a KDE app before will want to put on quite a bit, but as long as your partition isn't stupid sized no problem,  oh and Ubuntu and other Linux distros are designed to have many programs installed without problems, unlike Windows
[03:53] <xyz> ianto; ya clicked forward...i am entering my user details such as username etc
[03:53] <ianto> !info remastersys
[03:53] <ianto> xyz: Try to make sure that you use the same username as last time and preferrably same password so it keeps your user settings
[03:54] <xyz> ianto; yup sure
[03:54] <ianto> xyz: Same password isn't required but it helps with wireless keyrings
[03:54] <xyz> ianto; ok
[03:54] <xyz> ianto; now about to click on install
[03:54] <ianto> xyz: Enjoy
[03:54] <jason8> bastid, what was the ISO i needed?
[03:54] <patx> What computer is on the homepage? (www.ubuntu.com)
[03:54] <soreau> jason8: Please don't pm me. Just ask here and if anyone knows, they will likely reply
[03:55] <janice> ianto: remastersys is not used anymore
[03:55] <ianto> xyz: If you have more than one user account on your machine,  you'll have to recreate the other users too,  as long as they keep the same usernames their files and settings should be kept too
[03:55] <bastid_raZor> jason8: possibly look at this page and try some boot options:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:55] <xyz> ianto; hey can you share me your email id.... i am very much thankful for your help.... in case i get any problems...i can contact you right away
[03:55] <flip_> can some one help me
[03:55] <jason8> i need help with a simple install and knowone wants to help i get no love
[03:55] <flip_> with sound card problems
[03:55] <sebsebseb> jason8: hi
[03:55] <sebsebseb> jason8: ok install
[03:56] <ianto> xyz: Check your PMs
[03:56] <sebsebseb> jason8: uhmm
[03:56] <sebsebseb> jason8: just installing Ubuntu or what?
[03:56] <jason8> yeah
[03:56] <acovrig> I have a hp mini (netbook) running ubuntu desktop 9.10, sound works via headphone, but not speaker, why
[03:56] <Zelozelos> jason8, did u have a confusion about it, a queston or what?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> jason8: the manual, tells you how to do a guided install, which is what you would normally do when new,  however seperate /home can be useful to do on install
[03:56] <jason8> I cant get my TV to pick up a picture whne installing
[03:56] <wireshark> have anyone of installed Windows Media Player Firefox  plugin?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !manual | jason8
[03:57] <wireshark> on linux
[03:57] <xyz> ianto; thank you very much. I am leaving for my class. see ya
[03:57] <sebsebseb> wireshark: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  I guess
[03:57] <ianto> xyz: Sure see you around
[03:57] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  i done this
[03:57] <sebsebseb> wireshark: w32codecs maybe or something
[03:57] <bastid_raZor> jason8: see that page on how to get to safe graphics mode from on LiveCD
[03:57] <wireshark> this too sebsebseb
[03:57] <sebsebseb> !info w32codecs
[03:57] <acovrig> wireshark, wmp>wine?
[03:57] <ianto> sebsebseb: That's in the medibuntu repo
[03:58] <wireshark> acovrig:  ?
[03:58] <flip_> can some one help me with sound issues please?
[03:58] <jason8>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions ?
[03:58] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu | wireshark
[03:58] <rod2> anyone here every gotten a virus on their home computer? (ubuntu)
[03:58] <Adola> 'Evening!  How can I make the hostname resolve to the local IP of the server?
[03:58] <xyz> ianto; is there anything else to be done after the install??
[03:58] <Zelozelos> flip_, it helps to state the issue, not just generally
[03:58] <ianto> xyz: Nope just login as normal and it should work
[03:58] <wireshark> sebsebseb:  i did this too
[03:58] <sebsebseb> ianto: ok ty
[03:58] <acovrig> wireshark, u might be able to use wine to emulate windows media player, associate the links in firefox, ect.
[03:58] <ianto> xyz: You'll need to redownload and install any old programs though
[03:58] <xyz> ianto; ok thank you then i m signing off
[03:58] <ianto> xyz: Via synaptic or apt-get
[03:58] <ianto> xyz: Okay goodbye for now
[03:59] <flip_> Zelozelos,  i have no sound??
[03:59] <sebsebseb> wireshark: acovrig  yes  WMP can be done in Wine, but there are better native players for Linux distros :)
[03:59] <Zelozelos>  ok ive managed to figure out a bunch of the colors i wanted to change from this drab greay-like color scheme ive been stuck w since i messed something up, im using gnome color chooser...BUT...theres still a few i cant seem to find ive circled them in red here http://www.pasteall.org/pic/4064 any ideas anyone?
[03:59] <bastid_raZor> Adola: add  'ip   hostname' to /etc/hosts
[03:59] <flip_> Zelozelos,  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7a8d7db91b7deebc52914d87dd83edfb2ba9ac52
[04:00] <Adola> bastid_raZor: A DynDns will substitute for a " 'ip " right?
[04:01] <jason8> im about to say fuck all this a give up cuz this shit blows
[04:01] <sebsebseb> jason8: uhmm
[04:01] <bastid_raZor> Adola: i don't know, i think you need to use actual ip's
[04:01] <Adola> !language @ jason*
[04:01] <sebsebseb> jason8: whats the problem you got?
[04:01] <Zelozelos> flip_, looks like its not recognizing that u have a sound card but im not the person to help, idk nuttin bout no sound cards rofl
[04:01] <sebsebseb> jason8: with Ubuntu
[04:01] <bastid_raZor> jason8: you've not tried anything i've suggested.. good luck.
[04:01] <flip_> T.T
[04:02] <bastid_raZor> sebsebseb: installer won't boot.. tv he is using as a monitor is 'out of range'
[04:02] <jason8> i looked at that page but i dont have any of the options it talking about
[04:02] <sebsebseb> bastid_raZor: which is a bit of an odd way to do Ubuntu really?
[04:02] <bastid_raZor> jason8: stop being lazy and dig out the monitor you have.
[04:02] <Adola> bastid_raZor: Do I need to restart anything after editing that file?
[04:03] <bastid_raZor> sebsebseb: i've never had it work that way, for my media server i install with a real monitor plugged in
[04:03] <jason8> why cant it just install the way i have it i cant even get live cd to work
[04:04] <bastid_raZor> Adola: no
[04:04] <sebsebseb> jason8: since your doing things in a bit of an odd way
[04:04] <sebsebseb> jason8: as for Live CD that shoudl work, if your doing it correctly
[04:04] <Alumin> ok, just wanna say...the feature where you can update the OS installer _at_ installation time?  that's prrrrrretteh fancehhhhhhh
[04:04] <ines> bastid_raZor, none of those links have to do with what i want exactly
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Alumin: whats that?
[04:04] <Zelozelos> jason8, because a monitor physically connected works via hardware and some software, using a tv as a monitor is all software (unless its a monitor/tv that attaches via monitor cable)
[04:04] <Alumin> (I'm installing Kubuntu actually, but I'm guessing that's not Kubuntu-specific)
[04:05] <jason8> witch it does
[04:05] <Alumin> sebsebseb: I'm installing 10.04 from disc and the first screen of the installer has a "update this installer" button on it
[04:05] <sebsebseb> Alumin: yeah
[04:05] <dshbusiness> Hello, all. I want to compile the kernel from the source code. But I don't know how to choose my processor's family. It is intel T2370. Which one should I choose?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> it does
[04:05] <Alumin> so I clicked it, 'cause...why not :)
[04:05] <Devrethman> What's a command line utility to decode .mov files?
[04:05] <ianto> jason8: Have you tried the Alternate CD?  That disk has more drivers for devices than a standard LiveCD
[04:05] <Alumin> Devrethman: you mean transcode?  maybe mencoder
[04:05] <bastid_raZor> jason8: that doesn't guarantee the liveCD will deteccdt it properly. use a monitor or alternate installer.
[04:06] <Alumin> sebsebseb: just saying I'm impressed
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Alumin: ok
[04:06] <zus> hi
[04:06] <Gleston> Guys, my video card is not being recognized...its a via chrome9 running on my infoway w7635...i saw a tutorial that explains how to do it but i can't find the xorg.conf file inside etc/X11 im using ubuntu 10.04
[04:06] <ianto> jason8: If that doesn't work you're gonna have to find a monitor to borrow to installl Ubuntu and then try finding drivers for it
[04:06] <Zelozelos> jason8, 4 real, ure best option is to get out a real monitor, install, then install the tv/monitor
[04:06] <Devrethman> Alumin: Transcode, decode, whatever, I want to automate turning a bunch of .mov files into .wav files.
[04:06] <ines> coulod anyone tell me if a Remastersys lucid repository exists?
[04:06] <Alumin> Devrethman: well, it's a valid distinction since "decode" generally just means "play" :)
[04:07] <bastid_raZor> ines: it does not.
[04:07] <jason8> so once i install via monitor the system will detect my TV
[04:07] <Alumin> but yeah I'd say probably mencoder -vo null -ao pcm or similar
[04:07] <User752> hello??
[04:07] <Cyber_Akuma> I never tried .mov files, but mwgui might be able to let you queue a bunch of demux jobs then run them at once
[04:07] <ines> bastid_raZor, it doesn't exist?
[04:07] <Cyber_Akuma> Errr, nm, forgot this was the unbuntu chan
[04:07] <Zelozelos> jason8, maybe,
[04:07] <Adola> Thanks bastid_raZor Works like a char ;]
[04:07] <bastid_raZor> Adola:  great :)
[04:07] <Devrethman> Alumin: I think Decode implies a decompression into some generic uncompressed format, whereas transcode is to decode and reencode in a different format.
[04:07] <jason8> whats the link to the alt livecd
[04:08] <Gleston> can somebody help me?
[04:08] <User752> i need help please
[04:08] <bastid_raZor> ines: remastersys is not in the repositories
[04:08] <acovrig> I have a hp mini (netbook) running ubuntu desktop 9.10, sound works via headphone, but not speaker, why
[04:08] <PlutoISaPlanet> I'm trying to follow these instructions: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ubuntu_lirc_install and am at this step: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source" but I don't get a configuration that pops up after... anyone know why?
[04:09] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: change your sound preferences.. click the sound icon > preferences > Output > connector
[04:09] <sebsebseb> !ask | User752 Gleston
[04:09] <ines> bastid_raZor, I asked if remastersys had its own lucid repository. I can only find the remastersys repository for karmic.
[04:09] <Zelozelos> Glebelg, User752 , guys, just state the issue, thats what this channel is for, helping, so u dont need 2 ask for help, just say "heay i need help w>>>"
[04:09] <User752> ok sorry
[04:10] <Zelozelos> no apologies needed ;)
[04:10] <K-rAd-> i am somewhat disappointed with AWN testing (avant) and i've tried Cairo Dock and was disappointed with that too.  anyone can suggest a better alternative ?
[04:10] <Zelozelos> K-rAd-, docky is good, sweet n 2 the point
[04:10] <K-rAd-> sounds wonderful
[04:10] <K-rAd-> thank you for your help
[04:11] <ines> coulod anyone tell me if a Remastersys lucid repo exists?
[04:11] <Zelozelos> K-rAd-, but i think docky n cario is the same one, not sure though
[04:11] <mataks_> anyone knows how to change the console keymaps
[04:11] <bastid_raZor> ines: PPA's are not always reliable.. use at your own risk .. http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469849&page=5 post 44
[04:11] <augdawg> does anyone know how to expand the bookmarks list under places in ubuntu 10.04 so that it shows all of the places?
[04:12] <Zelozelos> augdawg, open a place, find the places u want n drag n drop them under the existing ones
[04:12] <voxcroix> could anyone tell me a free PHP5 IDE
[04:13] <augdawg> okay one sec let me try that...
[04:13] <wireshark> bb ubunistas
[04:13] <voxcroix> =.=
[04:13] <Alumin> hmm
[04:13] <augdawg> okay thanks!
[04:13] <K-rAd-> Zelozelos, i believe your wrong, but i'll find out
[04:13] <Alumin> no more popularity-contest opt-in during the install?
[04:13] <User752> i was trying to resize my partition . i have soper ubuntu and xp in a dual boot . but somthing hapend when i was running gparted from a flash drive and i lost the ubuntu partition and can't see the windows one in gparted bu do see it in the comuter file browser but it wont boot the hdd. all i get is a grub error
[04:13] <Zelozelos> K-rAd-, heh, its happened b4 rofl
[04:13] <voxcroix> anyonr know about the PHP5 IDE for ubuntu..
[04:13] <Alumin> voxcroix: dunno, KDevelop maybe?
[04:14] <Alumin> not really PHP specific
[04:14] <voxcroix> u noobei..
[04:14] <Alumin> Eclipse?
[04:14] <Alumin> vim?
[04:14] <ianto> !noob > voxcroix
[04:14] <voxcroix> all dunno
[04:14] <ines> could anyone tell me if a Remastersys lucid repository exists?
[04:14] <scribawf> is their a simple way of removing earlier Kernel entries in Grub2?
[04:15] <Zelozelos> ines did u enable all the unsupported repos?
[04:15] <Alumin> voxcroix: curses, you've figured it out, we're all a bunch of idiots.  Sorry to have wasted your time.
[04:15] <bastid_raZor> ines: i just gave you a link to a PPA, and 'no' an official repository does not include remastersys
[04:17] <User752> i am runnung from the live cd right now .anyway to fix it?
[04:17] <kermit> how do i mount an sd card?
[04:17] <bastid_raZor> User752: Super Ubuntu is not supported in #ubuntu
[04:18] <K-rAd-> Zelozelos, anything is possible
[04:18] <janice> is it possible to bot from an sd card?
[04:18] <K-rAd-> kermit, you could use gparted, simply formated, unmount it, and stick it back in
[04:18] <ianto> janice: Yes it is,  with the eee pc many users have used an SD card to boot Linux distros
[04:18] <User752> so no help?
[04:19] <K-rAd-> kermit or check mount  sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sd5 /mnt/mycreateddir
[04:19] <janice> ianto: does the bios have to suppor thati
[04:20] <bastid_raZor> !restoregrub | User752 try this:
[04:20] <K-rAd-> prolly should be a / after sd5   use sudo fdisk 0-l to check partitions or df -h
[04:20] <K-rAd-> sudo fdisk -l
[04:20] <ianto> janice: I would assume so just like a bios needs to support USB booting
[04:20] <bastid_raZor> !grub2 | User752 ..rather. that page has a howto on fixing grub
[04:20] <karma_police> anyone had any luck with 10.04 on nvidia geforce4 mx video? i can't get resolution higher than 640 x 480
[04:20] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, that didn't work-ish, Output isn't listed anyware in preferences, I'm on 9.10 if that means anything, and all of the drivers listed didn't do anything
[04:21] <janice> ianto: thanks my bios supports usb booting
[04:21] <Sangeeth> I can't find any one in #ubuntu-kernel... Is it a private chat room?..
[04:21] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: ah, 10.04 has changed a bit in that aspect.
[04:21] <karma_police> everything is huge:(
[04:21] <acovrig> thought so :|
[04:21] <K-rAd-> it is 10.04 not 10.4 like you see many people refer to it here correct ?
[04:21] <ianto> !nvidia > karma_police
[04:22] <ianto> karma_police: With an older card,  support might be dropped so an older nvidia driver may be needed
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: System > Preference > Sound ?
[04:22] <marine1> need help getting scanner recognized hp 4500
[04:23] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, what about it?
[04:23] <karma_police> computer is about 4 years old... video looks good on xp. am dual booting with hopes to make ubuntu the primary.. i dislike nvidia
[04:23] <bastid_raZor> acovrig: are you able to change the output method there? on this laptop it matters which i use..
[04:23] <ianto> karma_police: If you check your private messages ubottu should've sent you something
[04:23] <K-rAd-> selective usb boot from award bios is simple on all our machines its F12 one after a certain initialization phase then a screen comes up and you choose anything you'd like to boot from.  if its a usb drive it will be marked has hard drive and will have a + next to it to example bootable anything
[04:23] <marine1> copy print and fax working but when launching x-sane it see my web cam not scanner
[04:24] <marine1> and both are listed on lsusb
[04:24] <karma_police> ty i'm reading it now
[04:24] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, ALSA and Pulse are the only ones that don't give me err msgs, but none work
[04:25] <marine1> need help getting scanner recognized hp 4500: copy print and fax working but when launching x-sane it sees my web cam not scanner
[04:25] <K-rAd-> i find myself having to always kill pulseaudio for sound, well, at least, eventually.  but i'm using the ubuntu-audio-dev ppa to get sound working, mileages can and do vary
[04:26] <Sereph> can someone tell me what this means http://paste.org/pastebin/view/19879 its from syslog when trying to connect to my wifi on N band... when trying to connect on G band it stays connected for about 5 mins then disconnects and syslog says... http://paste.org/pastebin/view/19882
[04:26] <marine1> need help getting scanner recognized hp 4500: copy print and fax working but when launching x-sane it sees my web cam not scanner
[04:27] <Sereph> marine1: repeating every 2 mins wont get you helped any faster
[04:27] <jason8> ok so i dug out the monitor
[04:27] <jason8> video working so far
[04:28] <acovrig> bastid_raZor, headphones work ok, but not built-in speakers
[04:28] <ines> would running ubuntu off a microsd card be practical? would it run as fast as a normal hard drive?
[04:29] <acovrig> ines, lol - I use a 2GB
[04:29] <ines> acovrig, right now?
[04:29] <K-rAd-> marine1, google when all else fails here never fails and if it does expect to be patient
[04:29] <acovrig> ines, no, I'm on a macbook now, but I normaly use it at school (they use win7)
[04:30] <ines> acovrig, is it fast?
[04:30] <acovrig> I'd say just as fast as a HDD, but I haven't benched anything
[04:30] <janice> is sd a fast as usb>
[04:31] <K-rAd-> i'm so disappointed in music purchasing on ubuntu i hate having to use another box for itunes.  amazonmp3.com had not updated their downloader
[04:31] <janice> is sd as* fast as usb>
[04:31] <K-rAd-> the 7 whatever music store that ubuntu store uses never carried a selection worth sticking around for
[04:31] <jason8> bastid, its installing
[04:32] <electrofreak> janice: sd? like SD cards?
[04:32] <electrofreak> janice: sd? do you mean sata?
[04:33] <acovrig> janice, I'd say it depends on what u use to get to the comp (built-in reader vs sd>usb adapter)
[04:34] <electrofreak> acovrig: usually "built-in" readers are internally USB
[04:34] <mom> can i use file globbing with mkdir?
[04:34] <PlutoISaPlanet> could anyone walk me through uninstalling lirc? I need to get back to basics
[04:34] <acovrig> electrofreak, yet it is slower than my sd>usb adapter lol
[04:35] <jason8> anyone think that the desktop ver of ubuntu will work for a media server?
[04:35] <K-rAd-> you can easily get external micro sd microsdhc and SD readers for about a buck
[04:35] <jason8> egay
[04:35] <mom> like could i do mkdir [0-9[0-9][0-9] to create 999 folders?
[04:35] <electrofreak> acovrig: it happens, heh. I could be wrong.... could be a some sort of pci interface internally.
[04:36] <K-rAd-> jason, irregardless of your sexuality, amazon has great deals too
[04:36] <acovrig> electrofreak, then again, I have a sad sys (SiS graphics *card*)
[04:36] <jason8> ROFL
[04:36] <apparle> hey anyone knows any freenode server listening at port 443
[04:36] <janice> well its a buit in sd  just want to know if its as fast a a usb drive before I buy one!
[04:36] <acovrig> mom, I'd recommend "for i in `seq 1 999`; do mkdir $i; done"
[04:37] <K-rAd-> janice you'd need one to test, and you'd have to have something indicate averages of transfer rates
[04:37] <electrofreak> janice: like I said... it's probably USB. performance would really depend on the chipset used in each device. :-/
[04:37] <acovrig> janice, the sad thing is that it really depends on your computer
[04:37] <mataks_> anyone knows how to change the console keymaps?
[04:38] <kermit> mataks_: loadkeys
[04:38] <K-rAd-> docky here i come
[04:38] <jason8> bastid, what do i do once i have the OS installed
[04:38] <janice> ok guys   so I shouldnt assume it will be as fast as a usb drive?
[04:39] <acovrig> janice, it depends on your computer, it could actually be faster
[04:40] <mom> acovrig, nice
[04:40] <K-rAd-> is amarok tolerated by many of you while though you may be using gnome ?
[04:40] <mataks_> kermit, how? im just new to linux and i don't know much of the commands
[04:41] <janice> acovrig: my pc is about 3 years old   is that too old?
[04:41] <mom> acovrig, i think there is an elegant bash way to do it too
[04:41] <K-rAd-> janice, for linux ?  nopers
[04:41] <acovrig> mom, quick and dirty shell lol
[04:41] <acovrig> lol
[04:41] <K-rAd-> my computer was born on the release of intrepid
[04:41] <bullgard4> What is a "partner repository"?
[04:42] <noob123> hello?
[04:42] <K-rAd-> i have antique ubuntu cd's laying around, at least, one of them :)
[04:42] <bullgard4> !ask | noob123
[04:42] <noob123> oh ok thanks
[04:42] <bastid_raZor> !partner | bullgard4
[04:42] <janice> so for linux on sd card speeds    three years old is reasonable?
[04:44] <noob123> well i used to have the shut down option on the upper right corner of the screen but now my chat thing is like overlapping it and i cant get access to it anymore.  I did right click and went 2 add panel to add the shut down icon again but is there anyway i can get the original one back?
[04:44] <dk> My Fn hotkeys work in Ubuntu 10.04 (Asus Eee netbook), however there is no visual cue that anything happened. (I can change the brightness, disable touchpad, etc. but no notification shows up on the screen that I did so, no brightness slider) Why is this?
[04:44] <mom> acovrig, like you would want [0-9[0-9][0-9] somehow, because your way just creates a directory 2 when you'd want it to be 002
[04:44] <frankbro> Quick question, after restoring my notification area to default, no applications are set able to get on the notification area (emesene, liferea), anyone know why ?
[04:45] <acovrig> mom, I guess u'd have to put in an if to add the 00 and 0 to the beg lol
[04:45] <noob123> no guesses?
[04:45] <noob123> i tried restarting
[04:46] <Zelozelos> you know what id love to have, is glass themes like vista and win 7, any exist?
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> !panels | noob123 reset your panel::
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  dozens of windows clone type themes out there. Some are for emerald.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  personally i find them ugly
[04:47] <noob123> how do i reset my panel bastid?
[04:47] <bullgard4> bastid_raZor: I have read ubottu's text. I find it difficult to understand the sentence: "Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications." because the grammar seems not right to me. Could you please say this sentence in other words so that I will understand it?
[04:48] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, im struggling w themes ..i cant seem to get some of the colors changed from a drab grayish color..gettin kinda sick of lookin at it
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> bullgard4:  Hmm..  seems grammacally correct to me.   Ubuntu 'partner' companies like adobe, or others can put their own packages in the 'partners' reposuitory
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  mix and match the various parts. Some parts define the colors and cant be changed. try other parts.
[04:48] <Sangeeth> Is there any one looking to solve a low level bug?.. I'm here...
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Theme 'parts' =  Window Decoration (title bar and buttons/frame) , Widgits = the buttons and stuff IN a window.  icons, fonts, colors,
[04:49] <wcchandler> anybody familiar with DNS stuff?
[04:49] <bullgard4> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[04:49] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, i tried some other things to change stuff around n messed up smthin, now the only thing that works is gnome color chooser ;(
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  theres dozens of themes In the repositories, and dozens more in unofficial PPA repositories.. then theres the 10000's of parts you can install from the various theme sites
[04:50] <noob123> do flv or mpg files from watching movies on the internet get saved in tmp files on ubuntu anywhere? any way to delete them?
[04:50] <bullgard4> wcchandler: Please put a more specific question here in this channel.
[04:50] <noob123> i used to have the shut down option on the upper right corner of the screen but now my chat thing is like overlapping it and i cant get access to it anymore.  I did right click and went 2 add panel to add the shut down icon again but is there anyway i can get the original one back?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  as i said some 'parts' ie: the widgits. define what colors you can change. By selecting other parts and playing with the colors you can alter some things.. with some parts you cant.
[04:50] <xangua> noob123: add the indicator applet
[04:50] <janice> noob123: they gye savet to were ever you download them to
[04:51] <Zelozelos> check this  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/4064 ive circled the parts i cant seem to change, perhaps ull have a good suggestion
[04:51] <noob123> what janice?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  also you may want to unlock and move the widgits around a little. could be they are overlapping.
[04:51] <noob123> how do i do that?
[04:51] <janice> noob123: they get* saved* to were ever you download them to
[04:51] <wcchandler> Can you set MX records with subdomains?  I have a subdomain -- a free subdomain through afraid.org.  But I cannot seem to get the MX record set up accordingly...
[04:52] <noob123> ok they are unlocked but the chat is still overlapping the default location of where the shut down applet  should be
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  heres a nice new theme i saw -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/equinox-gets-its-own-ubuntu-ppa-both.html
[04:52] <noob123> janice these are streaming flv movies
[04:52] <Sangeeth> Is there anyone who has an opening in his team?.. Dev, mod or bug solving... I'm skilled in C, C++...
[04:52] <noob123> im just wondering if they get saved in a temp file?
[04:52] <noob123> like in windows?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  move it to the left a little bit, add applets.. or just reset teh whole gnome panel.
[04:52] <noob123> how do i reset the whole gnome panel?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  in /tmp/ yes i think they do.  tmp gets cleaned out regullary
[04:53] <janice> noob123: oh ok streaming goes into yut /tmp
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[04:53] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, those look pretty cool, ty for the info
[04:53] <Flannel> Sangeeth: http://www.ubuntu.com/community  Also, #ubuntu-devel might be a good place to ask
[04:54] <noob123> dr willis i typed that in term but it says event not found
[04:54] <janice> noob123: and are not saved anywhere
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  just rember the term 'theme' is often very vague.. people use it to mean a complete theme.. or often just some parts of a tjheme
[04:54] <noob123> ubottu does that make my whole panel blank or back to default?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  be more clear in what you are doing... you tuped 'what' exactly?
[04:54] <Flannel> Sangeeth: There's plenty of opportunity for you to begin helping, that page explains some ways that you can, with links to more information on contacting the various teams
[04:54] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, heh,,tell me about it rofl
[04:54] <noob123> i typed !resetpanel
[04:55] <Sangeeth> Flannel : Thank you...
[04:55] <mom> acovrig, hey i got it :)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  thats a bot trigger.. type the command the bot said...
[04:55] <noob123> janice sry i missed ur response streaming flv and mpgs are not saved in temp files in ubuntu like they are in windows?
[04:55] <mom> acovrig, mkdir {0..9}{0..9}{0..9}
[04:56] <noob123> dr willis will that make my panel blank or back to default?
[04:56] <acovrig> mom, well, I guess that work good too lol
[04:56] <Guest2709> How come pidgin wont let me send files through yahoo?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis>  To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[04:56] <janice> noob123: /tmp is cleared upon every reboot
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> in terminal -0-->      gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> resets the panels back to defaults..
[04:56] <noob123> ok i did that
[04:56] <noob123> and my panel dissappeared
[04:56] <Sangeeth> Flannel : I saw that already based on your instructions to me, yesterday... Yet, I can't make it into any team :(
[04:57] <noob123> oh hey
[04:57] <janice> noob123: AFAIK :)
[04:57] <noob123> they're back now
[04:57] <noob123> and just like i want them to be
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  amazing.  :) it restarted..
[04:57] <noob123> thats one smart bot thanks ubottu! and of course Dr willis
[04:57] <ugliefrog> how do you change a cdrom permissions.....it wont let me is there a term command
[04:57] <noob123> what does AFAIK mean?
[04:57] <znook> I just tried disabling ipv6 on ubuntu 9.10. Is there anyway to confirm that it's really disabled?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  change them to do what exactly?
[04:57] <Zelozelos> wooo hooooo Dr_Willis those drab greays are FINALLLLLYY gone ty soo much man
[04:58] <jason8> ok so i got ubuntu installed how do i make it work on my TV
[04:58] <janice> noob123: as far as I know!
[04:58] <noob123> oo ok lol sry i gotta get with the lingo
[04:58] <noob123> thx janice i hope your knowledge is correct :)
[04:58] <Zelozelos> oops now i need to get the faenza-dark icon theme
[04:59] <Sangeeth> Flannel : I went into the #ubuntu-devel room... But, I can't find anyone discussing there...  ???
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> jason8:  and your video card is a ? and the tv is connected how? and what is your exact setup? Just a tv? tv + monitor?
[05:00] <Flannel> Sangeeth: What do you mean you can't make it into any team?
[05:00] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, Im trying to install a game wont let me cuz i cant change permissions...under properties it says the permission could not be determined
[05:00] <znook> Does anyone know how I can check the current status of ipv6?
[05:01] <noob123> how secure if ubuntu is it easy for people to make trojan like viruses and open back doors?
[05:01] <Sangeeth> Flannel : I could see, that the teams are classified like Kerne team, laptop team, etc... But, there is no one in the freenode chat room discussing but all logged in...
[05:01] <Flannel> Sangeeth: Yeah, sometimes people are on other timezones, or just busy.  You might also try the mailing lists, that allows people to communicate even if they're 12 hours away from you :)
[05:02] <Sangeeth> Flannel : Sorry... I got some one chatting with me in #ubuntu-devel....
[05:02] <janice> noob123: as far as I know   is deffinetly correct
[05:02] <noob123> can someone make a trojan like virus for ubuntu that enters what ever it wants to?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  if you mean to say you 'cant run a windows game via wine due the the whatever.exe on the cd  not being 'executable''  then use wine via the command line to install the windows game...
[05:02] <noob123> in the terminal
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:   so.. You are trying to install a windows game from cd, with wine? yes/no?
[05:03] <jason8> card is a cheep ATI x300 and the TV is/will be pluged into the DVI port
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  a user running some malware. in theory . can only trash their own files..
[05:03] <janice> noob123: ubuntu is vastly more secure that windoes
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  thats one of the many reasons for the 'layers' of security that ubuntu has.
[05:04] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, srry yes thats what in trying to do...im passed the first cd now im stuck on the second cuz of the file permission
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> jason8:  a tv plugged into the dvi port. basically is a computer monitor.
[05:04] <janice> noob123: ubuntu is vastly more secure that windoes   unless you happen upon a RK!
[05:04] <noob123> so virus like programs dont have the ability to enter their own terminal commnds?
[05:04] <noob123> whats and RK?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  with multi-cd games. I tend to copy ALL the files from all the cds to some single directory on the HD. then install from there. No cd changing needed
[05:04] <acovrig> anyone have a solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/11868
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  you are confused about what terminal commands are..  they are the same as gui programs.. theres no real 'security' type differance.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  just because they are terminal commands do not make them 'special'
[05:05] <janice> noob123: dont know what a RK is   so dont worry really
[05:05] <noob123> oh
[05:06] <noob123> so is antivirus or something like spybot neccesary for ubuntu?
[05:06] <Jordan_U> !virus | noob123
[05:06] <mom> what do you call {0..9}?  file globbing?
[05:06] <gartral|p> File parting, ussuaally
[05:06] <noob123> oh thanks ubottu ur one smart bot
[05:07] <janice> noob123: mosts users are smarter than any bot :P
[05:08] <gartral|p> Anyone get google earth too run on a intel gma 954?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  the biggest danger to a ubuntu box i find is the users doing things they really shouldent be doing..
[05:08] <noob123> what kinds of things are those dr willis?
[05:08] <tshirt> hi everyone. I have a pc with 2 physical HDD. One with Ubuntu10.4 and other with WXP. ¿ Is there a way that VirtualBox takes physical hdd with WXP ?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> well actually the 'admins' doing things.. :) in theory if a user never did any admin type tasks . the system should be safe.
[05:09] <soreau> noob123: For example, running as root or with sudo when they shouldn't be
[05:09] <mattl94> Hi , Is fixing the Software center and  update manager a easy thing to do ?
[05:09] <lubu2> join #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <soreau> mattl94: Depends on how badly it's broken I guess
[05:09] <mattl94> is that for me on noob123
[05:09] <noob123> can you "brick" an ubuntu OS?
[05:09] <Soekarmana> @tshirt : try this :http://blarts.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[05:09] <soreau> noob123: Depends on what you mean by 'brick'
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  the term 'brick' is used when you break a bit of hardware, like a PSP, or gameboy normally
[05:10] <ines> how can you free up some major space on ubuntu? i need to get it to fit on a 4 gb card and have as much room as possible to spare.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> You can 'break' an OS. :)
[05:10] <mom> file parting . . . cant find a wikipedia on it
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> You can Brik your Xbox360 by trying to Mod It.
[05:10] <janice> noob123:  brick it   why?
[05:10] <robbmunson> YOU cant really "brick" an OS, but you can make it unstable noob123 ;)
[05:11] <soreau> noob123: Ubuntu is not going to do any hardware damage if that's what you're asking. Worse case scenario is you'll have to reinstall it
[05:11] <noob123> janice: just wondering if virus like programs can "brick" or a better word "breaK" the ubuntu OS
[05:12] <mom> noob123, good luck with that
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  programs can do most anythiong.. :)  thats their nature..
[05:12] <soreau> noob123: There aren't really any known viruses that affect linux (which is what ubuntu is under everything)
[05:12] <noob123> i see
[05:12] <robbmunson> noob123: see !virus ;)
[05:12] <ines> how can you free up some major space on ubuntu? i need to get it to fit on a 4 gb card and have as much room as possible to spare.
[05:12] <janice> noob123:  i dont really think so (but not 100% SURE)
[05:12] <robbmunson> ubottu, tell noob123 about virus
[05:12] <acovrig> noob123, there isn't any viruses known, but 1 cmd can format ur hdd
[05:12] <Sangeeth> Where can i get free promotional Ubuntu Laptop Stickers for free?..
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> ines:  remove openoffice frees up a bit of space.. but you will have to watch out for apt's cache and stuff filling up  the hd.
[05:13] <ines> Dr_Willis, apt's cache?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> ines:  remove other apps also. for more space freed.  but 4gb will be a little tight
[05:13] <jason8> dr willis, i tryed to install my system that way before but i couldn't get into the install my tv would say not supported mode
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> ines:  yes.. every time you install somthing, or update/upgrade apt keeps stuff in its cache
[05:13] <kazagistar> robbmunson: when did they add that syntax for ubottu commands?
[05:13] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, sigh...i copied the first one to the disk i didnt do the secon one i dont know why
[05:13] <mom> acovrig, i doubt even rm -rf / works
[05:13] <noob123> i guess coming from supporting windows OS, it was so important to have a reliable antivirus and anti adware program installed
[05:13] <noob123> its kinda crazy that ubuntu doesnt need to
[05:13] <soreau> ines: apt caches packages and stores them on the hard drive in /var/apt/cache IIRC
[05:14] <robbmunson> kazagistar: its been there forever ;)
[05:14] <acovrig> ines, apt-get autoremove; also u could use a cmd-install
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> jason8:  you needed to set a proper res/refresh rate i guess. I plugged my tv via dvi into my PC (nvidia card) and its identical to a large pc monitor.
[05:14] <mattl94> This Is my update manager error Software index is broken
[05:14] <mattl94> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[05:14] <mattl94> is my problem major
[05:14] <ines> or bleachbit?
[05:14] <FloodBot3> mattl94: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  so you ran the command it said to run?
[05:14] <acovrig> mom, lol, sudo mv /* /dev/null isn't good either
[05:14] <jason8> yeah i had it set that way with windows
[05:14] <soreau> mattl94: It's telling you exactly what to do
[05:14] <bastid_raZor> soreau: /var/cache/apt/archives  :ines
[05:14] <soreau> mattl94: What part of that do you not understand?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  its crazy that windows 'needs' av software the moment its installed... :)
[05:14] <mom> acovrig, but does it work? :)
[05:14] <janice> noob123: not needed with ubuntu!
[05:14] <soreau> bastid_raZor: Ah yes, thank you
[05:14] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, Thanks for the help...time for a mc donalds run
[05:15] <noob123> oh yea how do i uninstall software besides going thru synaptic
[05:15] <ines> bastid_raZor, what?
[05:15] <bastid_raZor> ines: sudo apt-get clean    will clean that directory out
[05:15] <soreau> bastid_raZor: apt-cache --clean to remove?
[05:15] <noob123> im looking to a programs uninstall feature like in windows maybe?
[05:15] <acovrig> noob123, windows is an os w/a firewall - ubuntu is based on linux, linux *is* a firewall and has a firewall
[05:15] <soreau> I always forget all the boring details ;)
[05:15] <DrkStr> anyone know if i can make fire fox transparent
[05:15] <tshirt> Soekarmana: Thanks. I'll check it. i need to log off
[05:15] <soreau> DrkStr: You sure can, with compiz
[05:15] <robbmunson> noob123: please pay attention to these guys, we are trying to help you with the exact things youre trying to inquire about...
[05:15] <DrkStr> google.com
[05:15] <drizzt_> noob123, if you compiled something from source, usually there is 'make uninstall' option
[05:15] <acovrig> noob123, Add/Remove, or in the terminal(not that u want that yet)apt-get
[05:15] <bastid_raZor> soreau: :) i get bored and read manpages
[05:16] <soreau> DrkStr: Try Alt+Scroll
[05:16] <noob123> i see so i dont have to worry abt malware or bad cookies downloading on ubuntu?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> DrkStr:  compiz has features to make any window tansparent via a key combo+mouse wheel.
[05:16] <soreau> bastid_raZor: TMI! TMI!
[05:16] <dstufft> Is there a better way to do Nginx + uWsgi on Ubuntu 10.04 then compile from source >.>
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> that would make firefox much harder to use.. so i dont see the point
[05:16] <janice> robbmunson: and girls (Ill have you know!)
[05:17] <robbmunson> noob123: no, unless you are intending to use the ubuntu server, then youre gonna need one, as that server WILL be vulnerable, because its gonna be able to hold viruses that your clients might be succeptable to.
[05:17] <jason8> bastid i got it installed via PC monitor and i get the same message when switching to my TV
[05:17] <robbmunson> noob123: this is for instance if you were to make a mail server out of your ubuntu server installation...but thats a whole different story.
[05:17] <noob123> sry robbmunson i didnt mean to make it seem like im adhd im also reading the valuable info on viruses (or really lack of viruses) on ubuntu and i really appreciate it
[05:17] <drizzt_> acovrig, windows has firewall
[05:18] <acovrig> drizzt_, but isn't built on one
[05:18] <robbmunson> noob123: no biggie, just trying to clear stuff up, not fussing :)
[05:18] <mom> acovrig, i think i tried to force kill the init process once and that didnt work :(
[05:18] <acovrig> lol
[05:18] <drizzt_> acovrig, it is built in
[05:19] <soreau> robbmunson: making a mail server out of a ubuntu server install?? You're making mountains out of molehills now! ;)
[05:19] <mataks> how to change console keymap?
[05:20] <robbmunson> soreau: hey, just giving scenarios as to why you MIGHT need it...but for the most part you DONT ;)
[05:20] <mattl94> Sorry Didn't Know about the paste ,  When Running the Command it wont let me enter my password in that line
[05:20] <noob123> acovrig how do i get this add/remove programs for ubuntu?
[05:20] <janice> acovrig: hee mey    ps kill some id always works for me
[05:20] <bastid_raZor> jason8: what video card are you using?
[05:20] <acovrig> noob123, u using the newest ubuntu?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  look in the Applications menu? the bottom icon? thats the 'beginners' package manager tool. :)
[05:20] <jason8> x300 ATI
[05:21] <soreau> mattl94: It does not show you entering your password.. you just type and it's invisible
[05:21] <noob123> yea 10.04
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> !manual | noob123
[05:21] <acovrig> janice, kill pidof <appname> or ps -A|grep <appname>; kill <pid from prev cmd>
[05:21] <noob123> oh thx dr willis
[05:22] <mattl94> thanks soreau
[05:22]  * Dr_Willis is glad the Ubuntu manual has a 'emphasis on easy to follow instructions'  instead of a Emphasis on like... 'getting your work done' or 'teaching you ubuntu basics'
[05:22] <acovrig> noob123, have you used linux before, or just windows?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !tab | noob123
[05:22] <noob123> just windows
[05:22] <janice> acovrig: most times I use ps kill   (some pid id)
[05:23] <janice> acovrig: most times I use ps kill   (some process id)
[05:23] <acovrig> noob123, one of the biggest differences (I think) windows uses C:\path\to\folder, ubuntu (linux/unix) uses /path/to/file - / is the same as C:\
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  and dont forget that file names and paths in linux ARE CaSe SeneSeTiVe.   file.txt is NOT the same as File.txt
[05:23] <robbmunson> and hda1 instead of C:\, lets not forget that acovrig
[05:23] <acovrig> janice, kinda funny pid id = process id id lol; me too, but I have to use ps -A|grep <app name> to get the pid
[05:24] <acovrig> robbmunson, but it could be sda1 ;)
[05:24] <noob123> i see
[05:24] <robbmunson> acovrig: true, been away too long! :(
[05:24] <janice> acovrig: ah pk  but I know what id I need to kill!
[05:24] <soreau> robbmunson: pgrep ftw
[05:24] <acovrig> lol
[05:25] <janice> acovrig: ah ok*  but I know what id I need to kill!
[05:25] <robbmunson> ive been away from linux for months, im having withdrawls (OFF TOPIC, I KNOW!)
[05:25] <dstufft> Anyone know of a better way of adding Modules to nginx (must be compiled in, no dynamic loading) then downloading the source and compiling the old fashion way?
[05:25] <noob123> you know i used to use cario dock but after some time it would become squished and then when i would go to applicatons those menus would be squished to...so i just stopped using cairo but anyone know what that happend?
[05:27] <patx> What computer is on the homepage? (www.ubuntu.com)
[05:27] <acovrig> robbmunson, away - why on earth lol
[05:27] <soreau> jason8: With the radeon driver (which is really the only one you can use that offers 3D for x300) you can use xrandr to configure outputs manually
[05:28] <zulgaban> hi
[05:28] <soreau> jason8: gnome-display-properties is a good frontend for xrandr but you can use xrandr in CLI to add different modes with different refresh rates and resolutions
[05:28] <soreau> jason8: You can get radeon-specific assistance in #radeon
[05:29] <bastid_raZor> jason8: it appears you need to snag the ati drivers from ati.
[05:29] <robbmunson> well, im headed out....
[05:29] <robbmunson> so good night all!
[05:29] <robbmunson> or, good morning!
[05:29] <noob123> thx robb
[05:29] <noob123> anyone know of any tweaks to get my ubuntu to run faster? i only got 512mb of ram
[05:29] <robbmunson> sure thing buddy.
[05:29] <alexh10> Im having a problem with ubuntu lucid. screen seems to crash. keyboard doesnt respond neither does the mouse.
[05:30] <janice> noob123: yeah upgrade your ram :P
[05:30] <iarp> i'm having an issue withtrying to restart vsftpd i've tried 3 different ways and nothing works, my next option was to uninstall and reinstall it. http://pastebin.com/hReNrpJD
[05:31] <SoftwareExplorer> alexh10: That seems to happen to me too when I log out of one user and I should be sent back to an already logged in user. When does it happen to you? Randomly?
[05:31] <alexh10> SoftwareExplorer: Yes it seems to be Randomly.
[05:33] <alexh10> SoftwareExplorer: I tried ctrl + alt + F1 And nothing. Only way out is to turn off the PC and back on.
[05:34] <janice> noob123: please dont PM me
[05:34] <soreau> alexh10: What causes this again? I didn't see your question
[05:34] <alexh10> SoftwareExplorer: This is Ubuntu lucid only. I had never happend in Ubuntu Jaunty.
[05:34] <alexh10> soreau: having a problem with ubuntu lucid. screen seems to crash. keyboard doesnt respond neither does the mouse
[05:35] <soreau> alexh10: Yes but what causes this or when does it happen?
[05:35] <SoftwareExplorer> alexh10: I doubt I can help you much, but what happens if you do Ctrl + Alt +SysRq+K ? That should restart the screen without having  to shutdown (if the keyboard can actually send the message)
[05:35] <drizzt_> alexh10, linux was not designed to run on moder hardware
[05:35] <soreau> drizzt_: That doesn't even make sense
[05:36] <alexh10> Oh my computer is old. 2002. 1GB. And this happens completely random.
[05:36] <janice> drizzt_:  ????
[05:36] <default> alt-tab isn't working with lucid..  did fresh install over 9.10 with separate /home partition,,    any ideas?
[05:36] <bastid_raZor> drizzt_: please be helpful.
[05:36] <evilsherpa> alexh10, if you have a wierless check the batteries - had that experience, and rebooted and all this crap, and it was flat batteries
[05:36] <drizzt_> it was designed to undercut Unix for using on mainframes and later web- and mailservers
[05:37] <soreau> alexh10: I had a similar issue recently, on a machine from around the same time frame using an upgrade from jaunty. A clean install of 10.04 fixed it
[05:37] <acovrig> noob123, u should ask ubottu basic questions, to start type '/msg ubottu ubotu'
[05:37] <alexh10> Also, the last time this happened, i was using chronium and I clicked on an icon. that was it.
[05:37] <bastid_raZor> soreau: you've finally caught up with the rest of the world :P
[05:37] <janice> drizzt_:  undercut Unix   HAHA
[05:37] <soreau> bastid_raZor: Slow down there, I still use arch as my primary ;)
[05:37] <SoftwareExplorer> soreau: Did you have new settings? A fresh install with the old /home files didn't fix it for me.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> alexh10:  it could be hardware related on older pc's.  whens the last time it had a good cleaning/dusting out?
[05:38] <sylon> what pkg is msgmerge in ubuntu?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !find msgmerge
[05:38] <alexh10> soreau: I installed lucid fresh. no upgrade. Im also using a desktop computer. So no batteries.
[05:38] <drizzt_> sylon, gettext
[05:38] <sylon> thx
[05:38] <soreau> alexh10: SoftwareExplorer: The machine would just stop responding after about an hour or more of inactivity. Then it just wouldn't respond to ping or any input
[05:39] <soreau> alexh10: Are you using old home settings folder?
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> soreau: resistance is futile. you will be assimalated
[05:39] <alexh10> Dr_Willis: Could be. I try with some bottle of compressed air but that was quite some time ago. But this never happened with Jaunty
[05:39] <soreau> bastid_raZor: gentoo and ubuntu are on the other partitions, settle down ;)
[05:39] <soreau> bastid_raZor: I use ubuntu for my older boxes and my server
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> soreau: heh
[05:39] <SoftwareExplorer> soreau: Hm, I must have had something different, if I ssh in and kill all Xorg's with -9 signal it starts behaving (until the next time)
[05:39] <acovrig> anyone know how to fix `modprobe opl3sa`?
[05:40] <alexh10> soreau: Im not sure how to answer that. I never changed anything. Its a fresh installed Ubuntu lucid.
[05:40] <soreau> SoftwareExplorer: My issue was a bit more severe, I could not ssh in or even ping it
[05:41] <janice> acovrig: should that not be   modprobe alsa?
[05:41] <dwg_> hello
[05:41] <soreau> alexh10: I see. Well next thing I would look into is trying to ssh into the box from another machine on the network if that is an option for you; otherwise check /var/log/messages for anything interesting and finally, suspect a hardware issue
[05:41] <janice> acovrig: but that should not be needed really
[05:42] <acovrig> janice, I'm using an *old* computer ;) (Yamaha OPL3-SA FM Synthesizer - onboard), and I need to modprobe opl3sa to get sound
[05:42] <soreau> acovrig: So why can't you?
[05:42] <acovrig> janice, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/11868
[05:43] <alexh10> soreau: I couldnt find anything in the var/log I didnt look too hard either. but I tried the xserver log thing. I doubt its the hardware. But I think Im going to reinstall ubuntu lucid from scratch.
[05:43] <janice> acovrig:  ah ok then!
[05:43] <zheng> m
[05:43] <acovrig> `modprobe opl3sa` returns 'FATAL: Module opl3sa not found.'
[05:43] <Fudge> anyone know if its possible to create a desktop shortcut to a remote computer youve saved in bookmarks or the places menu?
[05:44] <janice> acovrig:  maybe theres no module for it
[05:44] <soreau> acovrig: That bug report link is not loading here. What is telling you to load this module?
[05:44] <bastid_raZor> Fudge: drag it from the places menu to the desktop?
[05:44] <drizzt_> that bug was opened in 2005
[05:44] <Fudge> i cant use a mouse but have tried to copy it to and it doesnt work?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> cant use a mouse? Hmm.
[05:45] <acovrig> soreau, 'opl3sa2 blacklisted by alsa-base but ALSA module is not a perfect substitute' - 'not a perfect substitute'=I get no sound
[05:45] <soreau> acovrig: Does modprobe snd-opl3sa2 work?
[05:45] <Fudge> well i can but im blind and cant see pointer
[05:45] <damian> how do you remove a mod (ie, modprobe mod)?
[05:45] <janice> Fudge: try a usb mouse
[05:45] <Random832> damian: rmmod
[05:46] <bastid_raZor> damian: modprobe -r module
[05:46] <acovrig> soreau, same reply - if it means anything, this is a cmd-line barebones install, don't assume I have a package
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> compiz has that nice ZOOM feature on windowkey+mousewheel :) thats the wifes fave feature
[05:46] <damian> hrm, it's so odd.
[05:46] <damian> thanks!
[05:46] <Fudge> how is a usb mouse goign to help me see the pointer lmao
[05:46] <soreau> acovrig: snd-opl3sa2.ko is provided by the linux kernel
[05:46] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I can't live without compiz ezoom
[05:46] <damian> i do 'modprobe saehruash' it comes up with FATAL: Module not found'
[05:47] <damian> i do 'modprobe r8168' and it doesn't output anything
[05:47] <bastid_raZor> Fudge: heh, when it is opened from places it creates an icon on the desktop
[05:47] <janice> Fudge: I thought you had no mouse at all
[05:47] <Fudge> nah janice  not much sight, thats right it does create the icon so can you make it stay there?
[05:47] <soreau> damian: What makes you think that's a valid module?
[05:47] <llgk> ?
[05:48] <damian> r8168 i installed last night
[05:48] <acovrig> soreau, no sound, and modprobe snd-opl13sa2 doesn't work
[05:48] <janice> Fudge: do I understand   your sight is poor?
[05:48] <damian> 'seahruash' was my test to see what it outputted if the module definitely DOESN'T exist
[05:48] <damian> so i assume it outputs 'FATAL: ..' when the module doesn't exist
[05:48] <damian> and outputs nothing when the module doesn't work
[05:49] <janice> Fudge: you could try high contrast then
[05:49] <soreau> acovrig: Does 'lsmod|grep snd' show there is already an audio module loaded?
[05:49] <ross> i am having problems with youtube, when i try to maximize the screen, the browser closes on me
[05:49] <Guest28407> i am having problems with youtube, when i try to maximize the screen, the browser closes on me
[05:49] <soreau> damian: No output typically indicates success
[05:49] <Guest28407> can someone please help
[05:49] <drizzt_> Fudge, that places are in ~/.gtk-bookmarks file
[05:49] <acovrig> sareau, lsmod|grep snd returns null and alsa reload -unloading alsa sound modules: (none loaded)
[05:49] <damian> ah, well the card doesn't work, so i want to remove the driver, but wehn i rmmod/modprobe -r it doesn't output anything either, lol
[05:49] <cllaudyu> i have a problem with chromium i cant uninstall it!
[05:50] <damian> (i mistakenly installed r8168 when it's r8169 i needed)
[05:50] <damian> and now the system doesn't show the card at all
[05:50] <jason8> is there A REMOTE DESKTOP LIKE WINDOWS
[05:50] <damian> in lshw or lspci, where it did before
[05:50] <acovrig> jason8, viewer or server?
[05:50] <drizzt_> jason8, yes
[05:50] <janice> jason8: RDP
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Guest28407: I find that browsing youtube via totem (Applications > Sound and Video > Movie Player) is better than brosing via a web browser.
[05:51] <acovrig> Jordan_U how does that work?
[05:51] <jason8> YEAH I WANNA VIEW THE NEW UBUNTU ON MY LAPTOP
[05:51] <Jordan_U> !caps | jason8
[05:51] <janice> jason8: stop shouting!
[05:51] <bastid_raZor> Fudge: create a launcher to mount the remote box, but i'm guessing it will add a 2nd icon with the actual mounted place
[05:51] <k-rad> someone using ubuntu as long as i have has a odd question i've never asked.  how can i tell what in my /home directory is taking up so much space ?
[05:51] <cllaudyu> i have a problem with chromium i cant uninstall it! can someone help?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> acovrig: Totem has a youtube plugin.
[05:51] <acovrig> jason8, vinagre is the built-in VNC viewer
[05:51] <jason8> my bad i have fat fingers that love caps
[05:52] <acovrig> lol
[05:52] <drizzt_> jason8, try xrdp
[05:52] <janice> jason8: try vinagre
[05:52] <jason8> so my mouse battrys died soi give up on ubuntu for tonight
[05:53] <acovrig> Jordan_U, open location youtube.com?
[05:53] <Guest28407> it doesn't work
[05:53] <Guest28407> jordan_u it doesn'[t work
[05:53] <drizzt_> janice, i believe he needs server
[05:53] <damian> k-rad, check out the 'du' command, it will show you what space each directory is using, if you use it in /home it'll tell you what user is doing it
[05:53] <jason8> one day ill figure it out danm TV
[05:53] <bkadoctaj> lol  Okay, I'd better just ask... anyone know how I might run an alternate conky config file from the bar_action option in .scrotwm.conf?
[05:53] <acovrig> Jordan_U, nevermind, I found it as/in the sidebar lol
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  conky -c /path/to/other/config.conkyrc     no idea on the rest of it.
[05:54] <damian> # du --max-depth=1 -h /home
[05:54] <Jordan_U> acovrig: Guest28407: Click the drop down menu in the top right labeled "Playlist" and choose "YouTube" instead.
[05:54] <damian> should be what you're after
[05:54] <janice> drizzt_: yeah probely
[05:54] <acovrig> brb
[05:54] <cllaudyu> damn i cant get rid of chromium
[05:54] <drizzt_> someone thought that call the WM 'scrotum' is funny?
[05:54] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: I actually tried that but scrotwm does not appear to accept that syntax, even when it's all quoted.
[05:55] <bastid_raZor> bkadoctaj: not sure about .scrotwm.conf .. but for conky you can run as many you like.. conky -c /path/to/conkyrc
[05:55] <drizzt_> bkadoctaj, tried quotes?
[05:55] <janice> drizzt_: hehe!
[05:55] <bkadoctaj> bastid_raZor, yeah, that syntax doesn't work, and drizzt_, not even in quotes.
[05:55] <janice> drizzt_: very OT though!
[05:56] <bastid_raZor> bkadoctaj: maybe the .scrotwm.conf requires full path? /path/to/conky -c /path/to/conkyrc
[05:56] <jason8> ok i hsve a file called .run how do i run it
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  no idea. check their forums.. or make a script called 'startconky' that does the actual command
[05:56] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: that is a great idea.  lol!
[05:56] <Guest28407> jordan_u ok that's pretty cool - but why does the browser closes when i maximize
[05:56] <bkadoctaj> bastid_raZor: did try that, thanks for the idea though.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  i got a lot of little 'conky mini configs' for specific tasks.
[05:57] <Guest28407> jordan_u on youtube - it doesn't make any sense
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Guest28407:  i would guess. that flash is crashing the browser.. thats why its closeing
[05:57] <Guest28407> dr_willis how do i fix it? is there a way?
[05:57] <soreau> Guest28407: Do you mean try to make youtube go full screen?
[05:57] <bastid_raZor> jason8: be in the same directory as the .run and then ./file.run ..also you may need to make it executable .. chmod +x file.run
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> no idea. I dont worry about flash too much.
[05:57] <janice> drizzt_: that was a joke right?
[05:57] <Guest28407> soreau yes
[05:58] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: what's the expected directory for the script in .scrotwm.conf?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Guest28407: Flash on linux is pretty bad. If you use google chrome then only flash will crash and not the whole browser.
[05:58] <Guest28407> soreau it crashes on me everytime and I don't know why
[05:58] <SoftwareExplorer> k-rad: If you want to use the GUI the Disk Usage Analyzer (Baobab) does a good job.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  no idea.  ive never used scrotwm
[05:58] <soreau> Guest28407: Have you tried running 'firefox' in a terminal then crashing it to see if there's any interesting output?
[05:58] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: okay, thanks.  :)
[05:58] <Guest28407> soreau no how do you do that
[05:58] <soreau> ! terminal | Guest28407
[05:59] <Guest28407> soreau so the general concensus is that flash is horrible for linux?
[05:59] <koshari> Guest28407: flash is horrible period
[05:59] <Guest28407> ok
[05:59] <soreau> Guest28407: The general consensus is that we cannot do anything to fix proprietary closed source software
[05:59] <bkadoctaj> koshari: truth.
[05:59] <Guest28407> soreau ok thank you
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Guest28407: It's more horrid on linux though :)
[06:00] <soreau> Guest28407: Flash is closed source, gnash is an open alternative though I do not know how well it works (if at all)
[06:00] <Guest28407> soreau ok...i've never heard of gnash
[06:00] <electrofreak> AAA: could a missing initrd.img explain what was happening to me before?
[06:00] <soreau> ! gnash
[06:00] <Guest28407> soreau but at least i can use movie player to view full screen
[06:00] <janice> personally never had any problems with flash
[06:01] <drizzt_> does gnash support Flash 10?
[06:01] <Guest28407> ok thank you
[06:02] <soreau> Guest28407: I would recommend first running firefox in your terminal then crashing it to see if there's any interesting output. Then if it's just youtube you want, use Jordan_U's suggestion about using totem
[06:03] <Guest28407> soreau how?
[06:03] <janice> Guest28407: youtube does require a working flash plugin
[06:03] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: thanks!  It worked.  :)
[06:03] <Guest28407> soreau how do you run firefox in the terminal and crash it - can you run me through it ?
[06:04] <soreau> Guest28407: 1) Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal 2) Type 'firefox' without quotes 3) Press enter
[06:04] <Guest28407> soreau ok then what keep going i'll try it out
[06:04] <acovrig> Guest28407, open the terminal, type firefox, wait for it to open, then precc Ctrl+c to crash it
[06:04] <soreau> Guest28407: After you press enter, it should launch a firefox window. Navigate to youtube and crash the browser
[06:05] <soreau> Guest28407: Then, review the output in the terminal
[06:06] <janice> Guest28407: firefox needs the flash plugin to view youtube
[06:06] <soreau> hm.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Guest28407:  youtube can do html5 with some other browsers.. so you can bypass flash. :)
[06:06] <soreau> Yea that's a good point..
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> actually isent youtube using that WebM codec now for some things?
[06:06] <Guest28407> (firefox-bin:14131): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[06:06] <Guest28407> what's that
[06:06] <Sp0t> does anyone have experience with installing XAMPP on linux?
[06:06] <soreau> Guest28407: You can ignore that
[06:07] <ivo_> steak for breakfast ...
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !lampp
[06:07] <ivo_> :D
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[06:07] <soreau> Guest28407: While you're in the terminal, do 'dpkg -l|grep flashplugin' and show the output
[06:07] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: I bet youtube is detecting firefox and requiring flash
[06:07] <Sp0t> Dr_Willis: I know, better know as LAMP
[06:07] <Guest28407> ok then what
[06:07] <soreau> Guest28407: Any output from 'dpkg -l|grep flashplugin'?
[06:08] <janice> Guest28407: first off  is flash installed?
[06:08] <Flannel> Sp0t: It's best to use LAMP on Linux instead of XAMPP, the benefits of having it all packaged like that for windows turn into hinderances on Linux
[06:08] <Sp0t> it worked out fine but after starting LAMP, it tells me there is another web server daemon running already, it is not the XAMPP-apache
[06:08] <Guest28407> soreau yes - ii flashplugin-installer 10.0.45.2ubuntu1 adobe flash player plugin installer
[06:08] <rww> !xampp
[06:08] <soreau> janice: We're getting there, settle down ;)
[06:08] <Guest28407> and then
[06:08] <Guest28407> ii flashplugin-nonfree adobe flash player plugin installer (transit
[06:08] <Flannel> Sp0t: So you've got LAMP and XAMPP installed?
[06:08] <soreau> Guest28407: Ok, try uninstalling flashplugin-nonfree package, then restart firefox and try again
[06:09] <samatoms> I did an update to Ubuntu today and saw "libdata-google-2-1..." does anyone have any idea what this is or how to find out?
[06:09] <acovrig> anyone know how to have irssi run a cmd when a hilighted msg is recieved?
[06:09] <soreau> acovrig: #irssi
[06:09] <Guest28407> soreau ok - what's the command for uninstall packages?
[06:09] <acovrig> soreau: thanks
[06:09] <soreau> Guest28407: sudo apt-get remove <pkg-name>
[06:09] <rww> acovrig: investigate trigger.pl on http://scripts.irssi.org/
[06:10] <bkadoctaj> Guest28407: sudo apt-get remove package
[06:10] <sysdoc> I need to create a DOS boot USB does anyone have a quick and dirty method for linux?
[06:10] <Sp0t> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/11rW3Yrj
[06:10] <Flannel> samatoms: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libgdata-google1.2-1  Google services through SOAP.
[06:10] <samatoms> thaks Flannel
[06:11] <Guest28407> ah i can't lock the administration directory right now, curently updating ...
[06:11] <Flannel> Sp0t: Don't use XAMPP on Linux, use a proper LAMP stack, you'll have fewer problems and you'll be safer.
[06:11] <Guest28407> 5 minutes and i'll remove flash
[06:11] <rooibos> screwing up the mbr can make your whole hd unbootable. if this happens, would you be able to fresh reinstall the OS(es)? (i'm trying to decide between messing with the mbr and fresh installing.)
[06:11] <bkadoctaj> rooibos: what is your goal?
[06:12]  * soreau is installing gnash for the first time
[06:12] <janice> rooibos: if your not dual booting then kill your mbr
[06:12] <drizzt_> rooibos, you always can boot from floppy
[06:12] <Sp0t> ok will have a look at a proper LAMP stack
[06:12] <rooibos> bkadoctaj: my goal is to clean out the mbr, but i may want to repartition the whole hd anyway
[06:12] <drizzt_> rooibos, cleanit out from what?
[06:13] <Flannel> Sp0t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:13] <Sp0t> thanks Flannel
[06:13] <bkadoctaj> There's a dd command that'll do what you're looking for, rooibos, but I think that would complicate things.
[06:13] <Guest28407> be back in 10...then we'll figure this damn flash bug out!!!
[06:14] <bkadoctaj> rooibos: can't you just install your OSes and let them install their bootloader to the MBR?
[06:14] <rooibos> drizzt_: this is for my macbook. i want to remove grub from mbr.
[06:14] <drizzt_> bkadoctaj, you cannot just dd over mbr, it will destroy partition table
[06:14] <janice> soreau: look like he never had a proper flash install!
[06:15] <janice> soreau: looks* like he never had a proper flash install!
[06:15] <drizzt_> rooibos, look into MacOSX manual
[06:15] <bkadoctaj> drizzt_: not true.  There is a trick to it.  Using /dev/null and setting it to a single run of a certain blocksize.
[06:15] <bkadoctaj> I'm forgetting the number at the moment.
[06:16] <soreau> janice: What makes you say that?
[06:17] <janice> soreau: unable to view youtube for a start
[06:17] <rooibos> accidentally left the channel
[06:17] <soreau> I'm disappointed because I selected to install missing plugins, then selected gnash and it started working, asked for password then made ff and all related windows unresponsive
[06:17] <soreau> janice: I think you're confused
[06:17] <soreau> and/orconfusing
[06:17] <frank_> .rd
[06:17] <janice> soreau: about Guest28407 ?
[06:18] <soreau> ah it's still d/l'ing
[06:18] <soreau> shouldn't make the ff window gray and not focusable though :P
[06:18] <soreau> janice: In general, I'd guess
[06:18] <janice> soreau: in general?
[06:19] <soreau> bbiab, store
[06:19] <Guest28407> soreau ok
[06:20] <Guest28407> soreau i removed flash and now i opened up youtube it says that i need to install it
[06:20] <bkadoctaj> Guest28407: are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[06:20] <soreau> Guest28407: I clicked on 'install missing plugins' and selected gnash
[06:20] <soreau> trying it out here as soon as it installs
[06:20] <janice> soreau: hehe flash problem   idiot
[06:20] <vu1kan1> !flash
[06:21] <Guest28407> 32
[06:21] <Guest28407> soreau - installing gnash
[06:21] <soreau> Guest28407: Note that it makes your browser windows unresponsive while d/l'ing/installing for some reason, or at least it did here
[06:21] <mattl94>   Hi ,  I try to run a sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix my update manager problems and i get this error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/452324/
[06:23] <drizzt_> mattl94, try removing everyhting in .../updates folder
[06:23] <soreau> aww, gnash just gives 'an error occurred, try again later' in the flash window
[06:23] <soreau> No wonder I hadn't heard much positive hype about gnash
[06:23] <Guest28407> soreau - yes i had to close it now i think i need to reinstall it again
[06:23] <Guest28407> soreau - sudo apt-get install gnash?
[06:24] <voss749> gnash is the sound your teeth make while you try to use it.
[06:24] <user___> how i can compile using g++ ?
[06:24] <soreau> Guest28407: I just tested and gnash does not work here
[06:24] <soreau> Guest28407: Be back in a few, have to run out for a bit
[06:24] <Guest28407> doesn't work here either
[06:24] <user___> how i can compile using g++ ?
[06:24] <Guest28407> soreau - damn text me once you get back
[06:24] <vu1kan1> !patience | user__
[06:25] <mattl94> it wont actualy let me delete the files in that folder
[06:25] <Guest28407> soreau - brb too reboot
[06:25] <Fudge> anyone got ri-li installed?
[06:27] <vu1kan1> fudge i tried to use it in 8.04...never could get the darn thing to work(but i'm pretty noobish...some guru might pop in later that can help ya)
[06:27] <abhi_nav> user___, g++ filename.c
[06:27] <abhi_nav> user___, then a.out
[06:28] <ross> soreau tell me when you get back
[06:28] <user___> abhi_nav: do have more information i can read about how programming in linux ?
[06:29] <abhi_nav> user___, you can visit documentation / wiki of that resp. programming language
[06:29] <drizzt_> user___, there's mostly the same stuff: gcc, autotools, etc
[06:29] <zetheroo> hey guys, a friend of mine just did the upgrade form Karmic to Lucid and now when he boots he is brought to a terminal screen with "Grub recovery" sitting there ... what to do?
[06:32] <user___> Im reading a book " C++ for linux" is base in redhat do you think i can still reading regality is from redhat and im using ubuntu 10.04
[06:33] <kermit> user___: i'm sure it all applies.. though most linux software is still using ordinary C
[06:33] <maco> user___: programming is programming. if it somehow works on red hat and not on ubuntu, something is majorly broken.   ... or its really outdated and relying on libraries that have changed massively
[06:33] <Fudge> this works but i dont know the keyboard commands
[06:33] <maco> kermit: kde is all C++
[06:33] <daniel__> heya new here and too linux is there any beginner rooms ???
[06:33] <maco> daniel__: you're in it
[06:33] <bkadoctaj> kermit: thank goodness.
[06:33] <daniel__> lol
[06:33] <daniel__> thanks
[06:33] <kermit> maco: interesting
[06:33] <ayllu> hi, some one can help me. My 3d games are running slow.
[06:33] <maco> kermit: a couple of python apps, but by and large...C++ for kde
[06:33] <abhi_nav> !hi | daniel__
[06:33] <daniel__> hi abhi_nav
[06:33] <abhi_nav> user___, its good
[06:34] <daniel__> o yes i remember how to do that
[06:34] <daniel__> been years since i used irc
[06:34] <daniel__> can i slap someone with a salmon trout ?
[06:34] <drizzt_> daniel__, there's no such thing as 'Linux beginner'
[06:35] <daniel__> you just met one
[06:35] <rod1> Anyone know any possible solution to blurry letters in ubuntu 10 ?
[06:35] <daniel__> new glasses
[06:35] <rod1> zing
[06:35] <daniel__> less beer
[06:36] <drizzt_> rod1, swith off antialiasing
[06:36] <rod1> k gonna try!
[06:36] <Broot> heyh guys
[06:36] <Broot> hey guys
[06:37] <drizzt_> why Ubuntu designers are so crazy about gradient pixmaps? they're so lame
[06:37] <Broot> why is our 64 bit edition of ubuntu behind windows 7 64 bit? i wanna use my dang ram ya know?
[06:37] <drizzt_> Broot, because Windows 7 has 1 developer, unlike Linux
[06:37] <daniel__> i dont know anything really about linux except  it works
[06:38] <rod1> switching off anti-aliasing is done system>monitor ?
[06:38] <drizzt_> rod1, are you on Gnome?
[06:38] <rod1> yes
[06:38] <daniel__> i used vista the other day and it paused coughed crashed like 5 times in a half hour
[06:38] <drizzt_> rod1, system->preferences->appearance
[06:38] <Broot> can i use my brand new computer's hardware virtualization abilities like with virtualbox and ubuntu install to play good 3d games?
[06:39] <drizzt_> daniel__, tell those stories elsewhere. bye.
[06:39] <jaldhar> hello.  Did the latest lucid updates kill network-manager/knetworkmanager?
[06:39] <daniel__> huh
[06:39] <ayllu> hi, some one can help me. My 3d games are running slow.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> jaldhar:  not that ive seen. people in #kubuntu mauy know more
[06:39] <drizzt_> Broot, virtualbox don't have 3d acceleraion possible, even if it claims so
[06:39] <Broot> oh
[06:39] <rod1> hmm no specific antialiasing options there
[06:40] <Broot> gosh darn :(
[06:40] <jaldhar> Because knetworkmanager just says "Network Management disabled"
[06:40] <drizzt_> rod1, it's on 'Fonts' tab
[06:40] <daniel__> this isnt much of a beginners room
[06:40] <Broot> i could install our ubuntu like in a dual boot
[06:40] <Broot> but is it good for game playing
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> depends on the game
[06:40] <soreau> ayllu: Which card do you have per the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[06:40] <maco> daniel__: this is the usual tech support room. if you need help, you can ask here
[06:40] <Broot> any 3d game.. maybe even online massive games
[06:40] <drizzt_> Broot, if you prefer clones on 2000-era games, yes
[06:40] <jaldhar> Dr_Willis: #kubuntu is a bit quiet atm so I thought I'd ask here
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> If you want the best windows game experience..  use windows
[06:40] <abhi_nav> daniel__, there is #ubuntu-beginners
[06:41] <drizzt_> Broot, you may try wine, but it work very bad
[06:41] <ayllu> y have nvidia 7100 gs
[06:41] <xorwhy> I need an application that will let me know when changes occur on a web page, and what those changes are
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Broot:  thats very broad.. some 3d games and mmopgs work very well in wine
[06:41] <xorwhy> ideally, it would send a popup to libgnotify with the contents of the change
[06:41] <Broot> i want it to work on my ubuntu
[06:41] <maco> daniel__: i guarantee there are no questions thatll get you told off for asking something too beginner here. if anyone tries it, i will kick them from the room
[06:41] <k-rad> do shared network storage have a mount point i have a network servers icon on my desktop but my backintime-gnome my "select a folder"  does not show "Network Folders" as a listable folder.  i must find some way to easily backup via samba
[06:41] <soreau> abhi_nav: How do new users even figure out how to make it to that channel?
[06:41] <Broot> playonlinux an wine was too much of a mess last time i tried a simple game like fallout 3
[06:41] <daniel__> shouldnt you have said that when i ask when i got into this room
[06:41] <ayllu> my compiz is working good, but in game like flithgear is slow
[06:42] <abhi_nav> soreau, they can ask here that if there is any begineer ubuntu channel and I wll tell them that #ubuntu-beginners
[06:42] <abhi_nav> or whatever the correct spelliing is
[06:42] <daniel__> i asked when i first got here
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fallout 3 is  not a 'simple' game.
[06:42] <maco> abhi_nav: is that channel used as a tech support channel? i didnt think it was
[06:42] <daniel__> think it was the first or second line i typed
[06:42] <xorwhy> does linux offer free wifi?
[06:42] <maco> abhi_nav: i thought #ubuntu-beginners was only for when there were actual organized classes happening
[06:42] <abhi_nav> maco,  question was not about tech channel or not question was about begineers channel
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  that makes no sence...   McDonolds and other stores/places offer free wifi.
[06:43] <soreau> abhi_nav: That seems really overly complicated for a new user (to me anyway)
[06:43] <rod1> lol played with various font settings, i still see all fonts blurry ( for example I see 2 flashes vertical bars when idle )
[06:43] <drizzt_> Dr_Willis, all WIndows bethesda games cannot be played under wine
[06:43] <Broot> i want very popular ubuntu open gl latest and greatest mmo graphics rpg or something
[06:43] <abhi_nav> soreau, hmmm
[06:43] <soreau> abhi_nav: That would entail you being present to tell them about the channel and how to join it
[06:43] <xorwhy> lol, i was totally trolling
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  No idea. I dont try.
[06:43] <maco> daniel__: sorry i assumed you wanted a place you could ask a question, in which case the answer is here.  if you just want to know where beginner classes are occasionally held and where the beginners team which answers questions on the forum hang out, thatd be #ubuntu-beginners
[06:43] <abhi_nav> hmm soreau  you have any ubuntu question right now?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  i was able to get Lord Of the Rings Online working very well :) finaly.
[06:44] <daniel__> [15:33] <daniel__> heya new here and too linux is there any beginner rooms ???
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> !manual | daniel__
[06:44] <rod1> anyone know if blurry font could be driver issue ?
[06:44] <maco> daniel__: yes i saw that when you asked the first time and i told you here since i thought "i am new" meant you had questions to ask. are you going to ask questions?
[06:44] <mattl94> how do i change files as a root user not as a normal admin user
[06:45] <maco> daniel__: this is certainly not an advanced-users-only channel. its an *every* user channel
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  clarify what you are doing.. doing some of that stuff can damage your system.
[06:45] <daniel__> not in here too quick and smart for me
[06:45] <maco> daniel__: just ignore anything that's not said directly to you
[06:45] <k-rad> is amazon web storage inexpensive ?
[06:46] <mattl94> I am trying to remove some update files that are breaking my update manager
[06:46] <mattl94> it was sugestued earlier on to me
[06:46] <drizzt_> mattl94, sudo rm obviously
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  remove what files exactly?
[06:46] <ejwaxx> drizzt_: except for a recent sound effect regression, i have oblivion and fallout 3 both running under wine.  requires some tweaking to be sure, but it isn't fair to say "all windows bethesda games cannot be played under wine"
[06:46] <maco> daniel__: see how i'm saying your name at the start of the line? that means you'll get some sort of notification that im talking to you. text may be a differen colour? if you're looking at something other than your client, you may get a popup?  same'll happen to someone else if you say their name. if you only bother with whats said to you, its not so fast
[06:46] <soreau> drizzt_: rm: cannot remove `obviously': No such file or directory
[06:47] <mattl94>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/452324/  files in this folder
[06:47] <rod1> hmm I changed my RES to 800x600 and its very crisp text now :) , only its a resolution for grandparents
[06:47] <bkadoctaj> This is a great channel.  :)
[06:47] <jaldhar> This is strange.  I am currently connected by a wired connection.  However network-manager doesn't automatically bring the interface up anymore.  I have to manually run dhclient
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  carefully use 'sudo rm /path/to/whatever/' and be carefull you dont make typos.
[06:48] <mattl94> is that through terminal ?
[06:48] <bkadoctaj> jaldhar: you mean the icon in the panel doesn't exist?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  of course.
[06:48] <daniel__> so everything red is mine
[06:48] <drizzt_> mattl94, you can run your file manager as root
[06:48] <maco> daniel__: yep
[06:48] <jaldhar> bkadoctaj: for knetworkmanager?  The icon is there but it is disabled
[06:49]  * Dr_Willis has had to 'help fix' way to many cases where people break things after running their file manager as root...
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:49] <maco> daniel__: does that help make sense of the channel/room ?
[06:49] <bkadoctaj> jaldhar: Ah... you're using knetworkmanager...  I know next to nothing of KDE...  sorry.
[06:49] <daniel__> yeah also been a long time since i been on irc
[06:49] <abuayyoub> hello
[06:49] <bkadoctaj> abuayyoub: ahoy.
[06:49] <daniel__> so think i will be trying to catch up quick
[06:49] <jaldhar> bkadoctaj: however it is looking more like a network-manager problem
[06:50] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, see if network manager config file and if there are settings stored by other progrma then comment it and then network manager will run
[06:50] <maco> daniel__: likewise i only get notified that you're talking to me if you say my name ;-)
[06:50] <drizzt_> it is not file manager's problem that ext filesystem has problems with permissions
[06:50] <dissected> hello
[06:50] <bkadoctaj> dissected: ahoy.
[06:50] <bkadoctaj> :)
[06:50] <linux> hello i havent edited my iptables and found this when i got connected to internet ,can any body tell me whats going ,the results of iptables are in paste bin link http://pastebin.com/9ckmb0q3
[06:50] <abuayyoub> anyone know about video formats? I have some video files that have 2 audio files, german and English. For some reason the German is default, is there some way I can change that?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  most of the media players can select defaults.
[06:51] <daniel__> maco:  did that work then
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  check out vlc and mplayer (smplayer) and  their configs./settings
[06:51] <maco> daniel__: yep
[06:51] <drizzt_> abuayyoub, is those pirated videofiles?
[06:52] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis, drizzt_  thanks ill check
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  they have 2+ audio 'traks' is the proper term i belive
[06:52]  * dissected has a weird ACPI problem
[06:52] <daniel__> can i just ask one question for now why is there so many problems with wireless in 10.04
[06:52] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: there do not seem to be other settings anywhere
[06:52] <mattl94> drizzit how do i run file manager as root
[06:52] <linux> and by default there are no rules in iptabes that means i have firewall inactive?all incoming and outgoing connection are permitted or
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  actually i have less problems with wireless in 10.04 then i have with earlier releases
[06:52] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  yea
[06:53] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, in the etc/interfaces/sources file
[06:53] <dissected> on an HP zd7000 laptop, removing power brightens the backlight, and darkens it when on AC power
[06:53] <dissected> should be the opposite
[06:53] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, sources or source
[06:53] <linux> did anyone read my query ?
[06:53] <linux> hello i havent edited my iptables and found this when i got connected to internet ,can any body tell me whats going ,the results of iptables are in paste bin link http://pastebin.com/9ckmb0q3
[06:53] <linux> and by default there are no rules in iptabes that means i have firewall inactive?all incoming and outgoing connection are permitted or
[06:53] <daniel__> i couldnt get it to work properly and found a 9.10 version and everything works sweet
[06:53] <FloodBot3> linux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  sudo rm  /that/path/to/that/file/you/want/to/delete       will delete that file (0000) i think it was called.. dont get in the habbit of running nautilus as root.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  it pays to learn the basics of the shell
[06:54] <BeWop> Hello, I need help with my video repos.
[06:54] <daniel__> what is nautilus
[06:54] <BeWop> Anyone a pro at that?
[06:54] <drizzt_> daniel__, because you cannot have something for nothing: only commercial distros have no problems
[06:54] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: that's Gnome Desktop Environment's file manager.
[06:54] <maco> daniel__: the file browser that opens when you click something in the Places menu
[06:54] <bkadoctaj> It's like Finder in Mac OS X.
[06:54] <bkadoctaj> Or Explorer in Windows.
[06:54] <daniel__> ahh ok
[06:55] <BeWop> is there any way to disable libgl.so.1 without uninstalling any other program?
[06:55] <greezmunkey> Or like file manager in Windows 3.0
[06:55] <greezmunkey> except way better...
[06:55] <k-rad> do shared network storage have a mount point i have a network servers icon on my desktop but my backintime-gnome my "select a folder"  does not show "Network Folders" as a listable folder.  i must find some way to easily backup via samba
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> k-rad:  check in /home/Yourusername/.gvfs
[06:56] <k-rad> thank you Dr_Willis
[06:56] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: ??? You mean /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> k-rad:  or just mount the share via fstab/command line to some set location Not in the users /home/XXX
[06:56] <k-rad> i could try that yes
[06:56] <daniel__> so there are different desktop enviroments yes
[06:56] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  is there a code or something for language settings in VLC?> in Audio settings it says Preferred Audio Language to En, English,Us, USA, UK and it's still in German.
[06:57] <bkadoctaj> daniel__ yep.
[06:57] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, If your network connection is listed in /etc/network/interfaces, it is unavailable to NetworkManager with it's default setup (read this to see how to change it to manage these connections: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager ). The best option for a standard setup is to open the file using
[06:57] <abhi_nav> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:57] <abhi_nav> and comment out (ie put a # in front of) or delete every line in the /etc/network/interfaces file except the two with lo in them- they read
[06:57] <abhi_nav> auto lo
[06:57] <FloodBot3> abhi_nav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <daniel__> and they have different versions of nautilus
[06:57] <abhi_nav> iface lo inet loopback
[06:57] <abhi_nav> sorry
[06:57] <BeWop> I installed libgl.so.1 as a dependancy for a game, and now my graphics card basically isn't working. But to uninstall it, it says I have to uninstall almost everything on my computer. Help?
[06:57] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: No, nautilus is integrated into Gnome.
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop,  "rm disable libgl.so.1"   :)
[06:57] <mikubuntu> i am having strange behaviors on this computer trying to install ubuntu ... i burned the disk using imgburn, i used the top left write to disc option .. when i put this disc in with windows running it gives me the little window to install ubuntu by inserting in tray and restarting, or install within windows
[06:57] <BeWop> dissected thanks
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop,  "rm libgl.so.1"   :)
[06:57] <dissected> rahter
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop, dont do that
[06:57] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: But you can replace it with something lighter.  Just like you could use nautilus in another DE.
[06:57] <BeWop> dissected why?
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop, I was being silly
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected oh =P
[06:58] <dissected> BeWop, you probably dont want to delete it
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  vlc has dozens of settings and config files and 'advanced' controls.  I think vlc had some 'default audio track' perferance somewhere.  buit lately ive been using smplayer.  I rarely have to chang audio tracks any more. i watch a lot of anime that has jap+eng tracks. they are always defaulting to english forme now a days
[06:58] <mikubuntu> but when i insert in the tray and restart it tries to boot from the cd, and then the monitor says 'no signal'
[06:58] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7 see this documentations and last section
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected well, I can run everything without it, as in I just barely installed it and everything fell to hell
[06:58] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  so can i have a different desktop in my ubuntu 9.10
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected my driconf doesn't work, direct rendering doesn't work
[06:58] <default> m1kubuntu:  if you got more than one monitor plugged in...  unplug all but one
[06:58] <dissected> BeWop, is this a nvidia card?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  you can have several dozen different 'desktops/window managers'  on Linux
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected intel gma
[06:59] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  ok cool I will check out SMplayer. You recommend it over VLC?>
[06:59] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  on the same install ?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  ive been using it more and vlc less this past month
[06:59] <mikubuntu> default, no i have only one monitor plugged in
[06:59] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: auto lo is all I have.  This was working perfectly until my battery ran out earlier today and I was forced to reboot.
[06:59] <BeWop> dissected, it's apparently like libgl-mesa-snx.11 or something
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  main feature.. it remberw where i 'left off' on my movies.. so i can watch for 10 min.. close the player.. and come back to the same spot
[06:59] <BeWop> dissected, in ubuntu
[06:59] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, read that documentation
[06:59] <dissected> BeWop, I'd say try re-installing your video card driver ... but the intel is probably natively supported if that makes sense
[06:59] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  can i have different ones on the same install ?
[07:00] <BeWop> dissected, it is, but now it's not working
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  err... of course..   I sort of said youc an have a dozen+
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  the desktop/window manager is just another program
[07:00] <dissected> BeWop, have you tried uninstalling the game in question?
[07:00] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: Linux will blow your mind.
[07:00] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  remember i am very new to this
[07:00] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  nice. How is it with subtitles? You know the biggest (only) problem I have with VLC is it sucks ass with Subtitles.
[07:00] <bkadoctaj> It blows mine daily.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  'sudo apt-get install icewm'  then log out and select ICEWM at teh gdm login screen menus.. theres one :)
[07:00] <BeWop> it's my gui too
[07:00] <BeWop> dissected, it's everything, including my gui
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  ive never had issues with vlc and subtitles.
[07:01]  * Cpt_Zyph is no longer away : Gone for 3 hours 16 minutes 22 seconds
[07:01] <Ek|mu5> hello all
[07:01] <Cpt_Zyph> sry
[07:01] <Cpt_Zyph> didn't know away did that
[07:01] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  is that a part of gnome
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  Huh?
[07:01] <dissected> BeWop, you mean your system is bricked?
[07:01] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: no.  Gnome is separate from IceWM.
[07:01] <daniel__> Dr_Willis: gdh
[07:01] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: no that's not it.  Network manager isn't failing to manage wlan0 because of /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <dissected> BeWop, X that is
[07:01] <BeWop> dissected yeah
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  GDM IS the login screen you have been using if you are using ubuntu
[07:01] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, hmmm ok then? what exactly?
[07:02] <dissected> BeWop, you'll need to go in and take a look at the X server logs
[07:02] <mikubuntu> i am having strange behaviors on this computer trying to install ubuntu ... i burned the disk using imgburn, i used the top left write to disc option .. when i put this disc in with windows running it gives me the little window to install ubuntu by inserting in tray and restarting, or install within windows
[07:02] <xorwhy> I need an application or web application that will notify me of contents changes on a web page
[07:02] <dissected> BeWop, see what it says when it's crashing
[07:02] <BeWop> dissected how?
[07:02] <mikubuntu> but when i insert in the tray and restart it tries to boot from the cd, and then the monitor says 'no signal'
[07:02] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  when i was using 10.04 i had a screen like you say but in this 9.10 i dont think i do
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  ive seen various 'web site scrapers' that can do that.. but never used any.
[07:02] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: how do you log in?
[07:02] <dissected> BeWop, log in to a non graphical terminal
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  ubuntu uses gdm..its default for gnome.
[07:02] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  automatically
[07:02] <abhi_nav> !details | jaldhar
[07:03] <dissected> BeWop, when you start up and X crashes or whatever, try hitting CTRL+ALT+F1  or F2, etc and you should get a text based login
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  bottom of the GDM login screen is some menu items you can use after you type/select your users login name
[07:03] <bob_> how do I install 7-zip? I downloaded it with the software center, but now I can't find it.
[07:03] <dissected> BeWop, but you're going to need to be familiar /w shell commands for this
[07:03] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: You need to burn the image to a disc, restart your computer, then boot from the CD. Wait some time for the disc to boot up; it can take up to 3 minutes.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> bob_:  its a command line tool. installing it lets ark and other archive guis use 7zip archives now.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> bob_:  it does not have its own gui like the windows version
[07:04] <bob_> ok, thanks
[07:04] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: What are the specifications of your system? Your processor, RAM, and graphics card would be great info to have to help you out here.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> One area taht blows windo2ws away :) heh
[07:04] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  i turn the computer on it loads up and the desktop is on thats it no logging in
[07:04] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: I did.  but when i restart with the disk, the monitor says its getting no signal
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  disable auto login, or log out to get to GDM..
[07:04] <BeWop> dissected alright, so just give me the steps
[07:04] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: 3 times i tried
[07:04] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: go to System > Administration > Login Screen
[07:04] <wildbat> question~ can anyone know how to fix the lid button? it is not working correctly, when pressed the screen off for 0.5sec and back on, as well as when released. any clue?
[07:04] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  ta
[07:05] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: What system are you running? What processor do you have, RAM, graphics card? I need more info to help.
[07:05] <Cpt_Zyph> well i'm out of ideas on how to fix my video issues..
[07:05] <dissected> BeWop, eh it's hard without seeing exactly what is going on
[07:05] <jaldhar> ok.  kubuntu lucid + latest updates. kernel 2.6.32-23.  The knetworkmanager icon is disabled and if you click on it it says "Network management disabled."
[07:05] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: but when i restarted back into windows, it boots right up
[07:05] <oddtod> hey guys I am having an issue with ubuntu 10.4 connecting to a windows share. I have the share setup correctly and can access from other windows boxes but cannot connect from Ubuntu 64 bit OS. It asks like i am putting in the incorrect password when i try to access the machine
[07:05] <Cpt_Zyph> even when i hold shift i can see it try'n to load into a safe mode of sorts.. but i can only see a tiny corner of a prompt window
[07:05] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: then click "Show the screen for choosing who will log in".
[07:05] <BeWop> dissected well, is there anyway to just revert my system to a day ago?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> oddtod:  some times i have to enter the proper path to the share competely the first time and enter the password..  could also be your workgroup setting.
[07:05] <dissected> BeWop, you would just need to uninstall the packages that caused the problem
[07:06] <jaldhar> With a wired connection, a manual invocation of dhclient is needed to get an ip which previously happened automatically when the cable was inserted
[07:06] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i don't know how to open a terminal in xp
[07:06] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  done so now i can download different desktops ? and select them ?
[07:06] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: I just need to know how much RAM you have, and what processor you have, and if you have a graphics card.
[07:06] <BeWop> dissected I know, but when I go to do that, it says it will also uninstall xserver, all my games, fspot, and basically anything to do with the video
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  install icewm package. log out.. select icewm at teh gdm screen...
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> its not rocket surgery :)
[07:06] <bob_> are there any unrar programs that will let me unrar something from the right click menu?
[07:06] <bkadoctaj> heh
[07:06] <Cpt_Zyph> mikubuntu wrong channel go to run bar type cmd
[07:06] <dissected> BeWop, these can be re-installed right?
[07:07] <oddtod> Dr_Willis the workgroups are the same and i added wins and that actually allowed me to see the windows names. What do you mean the full path the share is names shares so //TOMCAT/SHARES?
[07:07] <celeritas> hehe rocket surgery.
[07:07] <BeWop> It'd be easier to just reinstall the os
[07:07] <dissected> BeWop, that's a fair point
[07:07] <BeWop> dissected can't I just uninstall the packet itself?
[07:07] <greezmunkey> ubuntu surgery
[07:07] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  will this change all my menus and stuff
[07:07] <dissected> BeWop, if you have a fairly vanilla install you might as well just do that
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> oddtod:  ive had issues befor with wins,  i normally have to enter in nauitlus the full path like   smb://server/sharename/    and it then prompts for the pass/user  and i tell it to rember. (i normally bookmark it also)
[07:07] <celeritas> bob_, all you have to add is a right click service under gnome for the file type
[07:08] <dissected> BeWop, you can try forcing it
[07:08] <oddtod> bob: if you install unrar "sudo apt-get install unrar" you should be able to right click and tell it to "extract here"
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  running a different desktop runs a different desktop... :)
[07:08] <BeWop> how/
[07:08] <Cpt_Zyph> well i have been reading as much as i can come across with nvidia card problems etc. etc.. and i have a fresh install on this laptop but can't figure out how to change run lvls to a none gui one.. or to edit the config file in recovery mode booted from install disk.. i dont knw what to do
[07:08] <dissected> BeWop, but you're going to create dependency issues
[07:08] <BeWop> dissected What kind of issues?
[07:08] <dissected> BeWop, other stuff might depends on that mesa library
[07:08] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: I have a windows terminal open, how do i query for the info you want
[07:08] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  but will items i have installed still be there
[07:08] <Cpt_Zyph> why are you talk'n about windows atm?
[07:09] <oddtod> Dr_Willis; thanks i'll have to play try that not. Thanks for your help if this works right now i'll come back on and tell you. Thanks again
[07:09] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: try it and see.
[07:09] <BeWop> dissected I wasn't using that mesa before, I probably won't use it now
[07:09] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: You don't need the terminal. All you need is to know your system information. If you don't know how much RAM you have or what processor you have, I can't help you.. You can check these things in Windows XP by opening your start menu, right clicking 'Computer', and selecting 'Properties'.
[07:09] <gixgix> can i set up some way to double-click a ruby file to execute it?
[07:09] <dissected> BeWop, you can try renaming it
[07:09] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: worst thing that will happen is you log out and choose Gnome for your next login session.
[07:09] <dissected> BeWop, then see if X boots up
[07:09] <ilumi> Cpt_Zyph, why you want to change run levels
[07:09] <mikubuntu> Cpt_Zyph: because i thought i could find my system info with terminal
[07:09] <daniel__> would like to know answers from people that are telling me to do things first before i try
[07:09] <BeWop> dissected I'd rather force remove it =P
[07:09] <celeritas> mikubuntu, WindowsKey+Pause(Break) key
[07:09] <abuayyoub> Anyone have any suggestions for learning CLI? I use it more than average but I have been wanting to learn it better. GDM spoils me tho because it's so friggin awesome.
[07:09] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: Yes, but in Linux we have to try some stuff on our own.
[07:10] <BeWop> x isn't dependant on this, or x wouldn't have ran in the first place
[07:10] <Cpt_Zyph> the system info in linux is far better then with windows
[07:10] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  yes when you have a certain amount of knowledge
[07:10] <karma_police> i have a problem. i have 10.04 and nvidia with restricted drivers.. i had to edit my xorg file to set resolution. i rebooted and have no panels... had to alt+f2 to open firefox.. i'm a noob is there a command to get the nvidia or resolution settings window up to change resolution where i can see my panels?
[07:10] <daniel__> its ok
[07:10] <abuayyoub> Cpt_Zyph, Everything in Linux is better than windows... except mayb gaming lol
[07:10] <dissected> BeWop, try something like "mv libgl.so.1 libgl.so.1.back"
[07:10] <Cpt_Zyph> if you need your hardware profile just right click my computer and check your device manager but chances are better (i dont knw the command but was walked through it before ) u can get a txt file that lists more then any windows system info would
[07:10] <dissected> and see if X starts up again
[07:10] <rod1> hmm my sound was not auto-detected , whats an easy way to check if ubuntu supports what I have?
[07:10] <BeWop> dissected k
[07:10] <Sc00t3r> BeWop: It's easier for just one person to help him. He's trying to install linux- meaning he doesn't have terminal.
[07:11] <ilumi> except there is better software for wondows
[07:11] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: It's like what my dad used to say, if you walked into an old casino and didn't know how to deal right, they'd shoot you.  Practice at home first.  ;)
[07:11] <phlak_user> abuayyoub: you could pick up this book --> http://www.bash2zsh.com/
[07:11] <mikubuntu> celeritas: i know the windows key, whats the break key?
[07:12] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: You can just open your start menu, right click "Computer", and select 'properties'. You are making this much more difficult than it is!
[07:12] <celeritas> mikubuntu, PauseBreak key
[07:12] <phlak_user> mikubuntu: the key with Pause and Break written on it; typically next to the Prt Sc
[07:12] <karma_police> i have a problem. i have 10.04 and nvidia with restricted drivers.. i had to edit my xorg file to set resolution. i rebooted and have no panels... had to alt+f2 to open firefox.. i'm a noob. is there a command to get the nvidia or resolution settings window up to change resolution where i can see my panels?
[07:12] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  makes no sense to have begginer rooms if you expect people to practice at home and no what they are doing before they come in
[07:12] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: what you're attempting to try isn't "beginner" stuff.
[07:12] <daniel__> bkadoctaj: you have to realise that i am still very very new to linux
[07:12] <BeWop> dissected it gives me a >
[07:13] <ilumi> karma_police, check if the refresh rates are ok for your monitor in the config file
[07:13] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: well, we try not to suggest things which we worry will break your system without giving you warning first.
[07:13] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  i see it as beginner stuff because ive never touched linux only windows
[07:13] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: You shouldn't have had to set your monitor's resolution manually in the first place. The reason you can't see everything is because the resolution is bigger than your monitor can handle; thus, the monitor is only showing a portion of it.
[07:13] <celeritas> karma_police, try nvidia-settings in terminal
[07:14] <godbody> How do I recover my files when I updated anyone
[07:14] <karma_police> how do i open if? i have a blank screen.. i can access alt f2 menu.. what command will open either the nvidia settings manager or the default ubuntu monitor menu?
[07:14] <godbody> it erased my partition
[07:14] <tazz> i am using thinkpad x201, i am on kubuntu 10.04 not able to control the brightness with the Fn+Brightness button.
[07:14] <celeritas> karma_police, try nvidia-config to redo your xorg
[07:14] <quietone> alsamixer no longer shows the hdmi (iec....)  how do i get it back?
[07:15] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i opened the 'computer' what do you want to know again?
[07:15] <karma_police> ok.. i changed resolution.. i have no top or bottom panels
[07:15] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Your processor, and your RAM. Are you reading everything? I said to right click 'Computer', and select 'Properties'. Not just 'Computer'.
[07:15] <maco> daniel__: if you want to try out the applications that go with other environments, you can simply install them using applications -> software center (erm i hope thats how its found) and then run them inside gnome
[07:15] <maco> daniel__: thats the easiest way. they'll all run within it just fine
[07:16] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: That means your resolution is still too large. Are you using a widescreen, or a 4:3?
[07:16] <karma_police> 4:3 1024x768. i wouldn't think that is too extreme
[07:16] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: Set your resolution to 1280x720 for widescreen, or 1024x768 for 4:3.
[07:16] <dissected> BeWop, what does
[07:16] <celeritas> karma_police, have you checked your monitor settings? are you using a crt or an lcd?
[07:16] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: That's odd..
[07:17] <BeWop> dissected terminal
[07:17] <karma_police> crt
[07:17] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: amd athlon 64, but i burned the 32 bit
[07:17] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Alright, that's not bad. Did you just copy the files over, or burned the .iso?
[07:17] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: 960 mb ram
[07:17] <phlak_user> godbody: from your backup disk?
[07:17] <celeritas> karma_police, the scan area of your crt may be too small. try changing the settings on your monitor. some monitors also have auto-configuration
[07:18] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i burned the 32 bit, and i used imgburn
[07:19] <bullgard4> Der Prozess #4571 'java' frißt 92%  meiner CPU-Zeit. Wie bekomme ich heraus, welches Anwendungsprogrmm ihn erzeugt hat?
[07:19] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Alright. So when you boot the CD, you get no signal at all from the monitor. Can you hear the disk spinning?
[07:19] <karma_police> i was using this site to configure my resolution.. when i installed ubuntu and installed the recommended nvidia driver i only had 480x240 or something like that http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/video-resolution-issue-for-ubuntu-10-04-a-809681/
[07:19] <dissected> BeWop, when you try to start X?
[07:19] <mikubuntu> it din't have an option to specifically burn .iso image that i could see, so in imgburn i used the top left write option, i don't know if you're familiar with imgburn
[07:19] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: How long do you wait for the CD to boot?
[07:19] <celeritas> karma_police, did you check the settings on your monitor?
[07:20] <BeWop> dissected no, just when I put in the command you gave me
[07:20] <karma_police> yes.. it is fine
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> how do i add single command to the new grub2 loader?
[07:20] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: What do you mean by single command?
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> i can't seem to do it like the old one.. tried ctrl x .. tried the esc key
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> i can
[07:20] <karma_police> everything looks good on screen.. i just have no top or bottom panels.
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> i can't get the video working on my laptop after fresh install
[07:21] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: What do you mean by single command, man?
[07:21] <Cpt_Zyph> had same problem with fedora but needless to say my fedora fix does not apply here.. so i was trying to get into single user mode so i can change xsession
[07:21] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i got a purple screen, with just one image bottom center, not the typical 'try buntu' 'install buntu' etc ,, and then the monitor goes black and says 'no signal'
[07:21] <Cpt_Zyph> i was told to add the single command to grub to change my run levels
[07:21] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, you shouldn't have to change the grub menu. all you have to do is add the single to the kernel at boot time
[07:21] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Give it time to boot up. How long did you wait?
[07:21] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: You should be able to do that be pressing 'e' while you are highlighting the boot option.
[07:22] <dissected> BeWop, you need to find the actual path of the file you mentioned, also are you sure that particular file is the culprit?
[07:22] <Cpt_Zyph> hummm its just flickers after ram count then ubuntu is already loading.. i'll try the e key now
[07:22] <BeWop> dissected I know the repo I installed is the culpiit
[07:22] <BeWop> dissected but I can't uninstall it without tearing up my computer
[07:22] <karma_police> no matter what resolution i set it to i have no panel... is there an alt f2 command to open a panel and add to startup applications?
[07:22] <phlak_user> Cpt_Zyph: keep the shift key pressed; this will bring up the grub menu
[07:22] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: ill try again and give it 5 mins to be sure, then i'll be back
[07:23] <karma_police> wait my bottom panel just magically appeared
[07:23] <BeWop> dissected  I just need to get it out, clean and whatever. Force is fine
[07:23] <Cpt_Zyph> i can't do it via shift
[07:23] <rohitnikocool> i am new to ubuntu .Should i use a antivirus?
[07:23] <abhi_nav> Cpt_Zyph, esc?
[07:23] <Cpt_Zyph> the problem is my video not working when i hold shift i only see a tiny corner of the window
[07:23] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Okay.
[07:23] <bkadoctaj> rohitnikocool: if you want.
[07:23] <karma_police> its like my upper panel is invisible
[07:23] <bkadoctaj> rohitnikocool: Pretty useless though imo.
[07:23] <Cpt_Zyph> treid esc  / e / ctrl x .. i'm not that much of a noobie i must be doing something wrong
[07:23] <Sc00t3r> rohitnikocool: You really don't need one.
[07:23] <dissected> BeWop, where did you get the filename for that library libgl?
[07:23] <drizzt_> rohitnikocool, antiviruses are useless on any platform
[07:24] <Cpt_Zyph> there is no txt after ram count it just instantly starts loading ubuntu
[07:24] <abhi_nav> rohitnikocool, absolutely not
[07:24] <BeWop> I searched libgl.so.1
[07:24] <bullgard4> The process #4571 'java' eats up 92%  of my CPU's time. How can I determine what application program did create it?
[07:24] <waldy> The gnome panel = unstable - I switched to KDE and problem gone :)
[07:24] <BeWop> dissected I searched libgl.so.1 and it spit out a mesa thing that said it was aka that
[07:24] <rohitnikocool> ya it may seem to you but my ubuntu crashed 3 to 4 times and i dont no why
[07:24] <Cpt_Zyph> dont get me wrong if i hold shift i see it try to go to recovery mode but i can't see the options or anything  just major flicker.. 5x copies of the screen and a tiny corner of a window
[07:24] <drizzt_> rohitnikocool, it's normal
[07:24] <abhi_nav> rohitnikocool, it is nothing to to with 'VIRUS'
[07:25] <drizzt_> rohitnikocool, try 8.04, it's more stable
[07:25] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, at boot time, when you hold shift, you don't see the grub menu?
[07:25] <dissected> BeWop, did you get the info from an error message or something?
[07:25] <Cpt_Zyph> i think i got it
[07:25] <Cpt_Zyph> hold shift then hit e to edit
[07:25] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm a dope
[07:25] <rohitnikocool> ok! what about firewall.
[07:25] <celeritas> right
[07:25] <bullgard4> waldy: "The gnome panel = unstable " <- A rubbish general statement.
[07:25] <BeWop> dissected there is no error message, my box/graphics are just really slow
[07:25] <abhi_nav> rohitnikocool, firewall is more about intrusion than virus
[07:25] <dissected> BeWop, we need to figure out exactly what is going on here before we accidentally toast your system
[07:25] <tripelb> Hi all...  I dont see anyone active I know. maybe drizzt_ ?I have ubuntu 9.10 and I want to turn my print image to landscape. The place to do that is Greyed Out. Please advise!!
[07:26] <waldy> bullgard4 - Thanks, nice to be appreciated ;-)
[07:26] <flip_> can some one help me with [   16.585851] RIPTIDE 0000:01:0a.0: firmware: requesting riptide.hex  [   16.924577] ALSA riptide.c:1249: Riptide: Firmware not available -2
[07:26] <drizzt_> tripelb, sorry, I was never get working printing in ubuntu at all
[07:26] <BeWop> dissected Well,  I think it was running off a different driver than mesa, and now that it is running of of mesa, my card doesn't support it too well.
[07:26] <karma_police> ok i think it fixed itself.. gonna reboot and see if it stays
[07:26] <dissected> BeWop, so you go to uninstall this stuff that apparently made your system slow, and because of that one file you tracked down that other stuff depends on, it wanted to uninstall a myriad of other things as well?
[07:27] <jpohl> how do i make grub2 default to a different OS?
[07:27] <BeWop> dissected yeah, except it doesn't really depend on it, because I used them all before just fine, and now they hardly run
[07:27] <tripelb> drizzt_, wow, I found it magically worked with no HP download needed. Take note of that brand then.
[07:27] <dissected> BeWop, well the point is, it *thinks* they all depend on it
[07:27] <celeritas> !details | jpohl
[07:27] <abhi_nav> jpds, set that os number to '0' in grub config file
[07:27] <abhi_nav> ohh sorry
[07:27] <BeWop> dissected I know. and I don't know how to fix it
[07:27] <abhi_nav> jpohl, , set that os number to '0' in grub config file
[07:27] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: You should be able to bring up the GRUB2 menu by holding down SHIFT during boot.
[07:28] <tripelb> dissected, I would think he just has to Not Run the programs and doesnt need actually to uninstall them.
[07:28] <rohitnikocool> how is ubuntu 10.10 alpha first guys,does anybody review it .
[07:28] <jpohl> abhi_nav: the grub file says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"
[07:29] <Sc00t3r> rohitnikocool: Probably no better than 10.04 until about a week after its final release.
[07:29] <Cpt_Zyph> Sc00t3r rgr that i'm at the menu now.. so were do i add / how do i add the single command to change the boot / run lvl so it dosn't load any gui things
[07:29] <dissected> tripelb, he said everything is messed up now though
[07:29] <quietone> if I boot to KDE i can adjust the iec9?? HDMI output. But in ubuntu it doesn't show up in alsamixer. What do I need to do to see the HDMI in ubuntu?
[07:29] <bkadoctaj> Sc00t3r: I agree... Lucid beta was nothing compared with final release.
[07:29] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, on the kernel line, at the end, add single
[07:30] <Guest79802> Hi I have a 360 litre cold water tanks tank I want to replace 1/3 of the water.
[07:30] <rohitnikocool> i have sticked to 9.10 after having some bugs in 10.04,hope 10.10 comes well.
[07:30] <Guest79802> I have siphoned ~100 litres out with the garden hose and now need to add 100l litres The tank contains 4 small goldfish ~ 7 cm long
[07:30] <Guest79802> Im in Geelong can I use straight tap water into the tank then add water ager,or must I mix 10 buckets of water with ager then add?
[07:30] <Guest79802> cheers rileyp
[07:30] <Guest79802> edit In the future we wish to upgrade to tropical fish (guppies probably as we are just starting out). Will the same rules apply?
[07:30] <FloodBot3> Guest79802: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: You know, I'm not completely sure. I assume you're trying to run it just by command line.. But why do you want to do that?
[07:30] <vishu> hi  guys
[07:30] <Cpt_Zyph> well from grub menu if i hit c to command line its the grub command line and thats not working so i hit e to edit th ecommands
[07:31] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, did you find the kernel line?
[07:31] <lint_> hey guys, i want to install an ssh server, which is a good one?
[07:31] <abhi_nav> jpohl, edit /etc/default/grub
[07:31] <Cpt_Zyph> i assume so
[07:31] <celeritas> lint openssh
[07:31] <rod1> dang an hour getting sound to work on ubuntu and I find out my computers speakers were on mute
[07:31] <oddalot> lol pwnt
[07:31] <celeritas> and did you add single to end of the line?
[07:31] <Cpt_Zyph> i hit E and i see some boot txt .. i'm guess'n i add a line at th bottom and i add the word single
[07:31] <rod1> oddalot: yep
[07:31] <abhi_nav> jpohl, see this doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:32] <celeritas> no, at the end of the kernel line, you add single as a parameter
[07:32] <Sc00t3r> I'll be back in a bit. Going to do some editing to GRUB2 via its loader, and some other stuff with GParted...
[07:32] <jpohl> abhi_nav: thanks
[07:32] <loopidity> i booted ubuntu with the earphones plugged in,now that I remove them, I still cant get the sound through the speaker
[07:32] <vishu> i have all the gstreamer plugins installe din my system i want to install them in another system  is there a way to transfer the plugins to anoher system without downloading them again?
[07:32] <abhi_nav> jpohl, hmm
[07:32] <loopidity> sbin/alsa reload doesnt help
[07:32] <Sc00t3r> loopidity: Choose the default output device in the sound preferences.
[07:32] <phlak_user> !ssh | lint_
[07:32] <phlak_user> !sshd | lint_
[07:32] <flip_> Can some one help me with sound card issues i've tried running alsa update script etc i got driver modules it just wont load for some reason
[07:32] <rohitnikocool> Can anyone tell me the best way to take backup in ubuntu 9.10
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Cpt_Zyph: You can also just choose the "recovery mode" menu entry.
[07:32] <flip_> something about firmware being missing -2
[07:32] <MasterZuFu> hey everyone. i restarted my server and went to start apache and this is the error I got: "no listening sockets available, shutting down
[07:32] <MasterZuFu> Unable to open logs". Someone in #httpd told me to find out what ports and ip's are being used on the system, that there may be some kind of intereference. I don't know how to do that, can anyone help me?
[07:32] <tripelb> dissected, I went back and read the discussion, backwards lol, and Oh. I do not know enough to imagine "to uninstall my video card I would have to uninstall (almost?) all my programs" that makes no sense to me so I'll bow out.  -- I just want to print a map of Africa "landscape" instead of "portrait" on the paper and that control is "greyed out". That's my current problem.
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> Jordan_U how?
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> i see that option but
[07:33] <tripelb> Ubuntu 9.10 and I want to turn my print image to landscape. The place to do that is Greyed Out. Please advise!!
[07:33] <lakitu> how do i manually mount devices when installing grub from the live cd
[07:33] <lint_> !scp
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> it dosn't display or load
[07:33] <karma_police> thatnk for the help guys.. i think i am finally up and running.. after 3 days of fubar
[07:33] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: netstat -nlt
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> just a blinking line
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> trying it now but all i see is a blink'n line in the bottom milddle of my screen
[07:34] <loopidity> Sc00t3r there is just one option (Dummy Stereo) and nothing else
[07:34] <jpohl> abhi_nav: something i'm still not sure about, e.g. if i set GRUB_DEFAULT=4 the next time i update the kernel, won't that throw the index off?
[07:34] <abhi_nav> jpohl, no
[07:34] <BeWop> dissected how do I force it out of there? I'll just take my chances
[07:34] <loopidity> and alsamixer doest work in commandline
[07:34] <jpohl> abhi_nav: ok
[07:34] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: if you see anything with a local address :80 then your port 80 (that apache normally runs on) is taken
[07:34] <greezmunkey> tripelb: did you try from CUPS? localhost:631 ?
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> can i maybe edit xconfig file from the boot cd recovery mode.. cuz that gets to a command line via the install disk but ist pretty limited
[07:34] <abhi_nav> jpohl, hmm
[07:35] <Tac_Home> it looks like ubuntu defaults to having lighttpd running, how do I flip that back to apache?
[07:35] <dissected> BeWop, check them an page for dpkg
[07:35] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, yes
[07:35] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, this is what i got: http://pastebin.com/kNeK4u53. I don't see port 80
[07:35] <dissected> BeWop, type "man dpkg" in a terminal
[07:35] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: i do see a 443; do you have https running?
[07:35] <BeWop> dissected kay... now what?
[07:36] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, I'm not entirely sure. how do i find out?
[07:36] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: install apache
[07:36] <dissected> BeWop, find an option that will turn off dependency checking ... and then you can erase the offending packages without it wanted to uninstall everything else
[07:36] <larrylamsy> hi, please help. I have upgrade my Ubuntu from 9.10 to now 10.04. I could not find the Palm Syn software.
[07:36] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, installed, and running
[07:36] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: what makes you think lighttpd is running instead of apache?
[07:36] <BeWop> dissected Mmk
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas well i'm sry i'm still pretty new at this i'll boot to the install disk and enter the command line option .. but i can't seem to figure out what to do from there
[07:37] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: try connecting to https://localhost/
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Cpt_Zyph: Do you have a LiveCD?
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i was think'n i could even just change run lvl
[07:37] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, good question..... well I guess my issue is.. I went to go modify the httpd.conf for apache, and it's empty
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> no i have the install cd
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm told its all one but i dont think so beacuse
[07:37] <blekos> hello how can I check i have install 64bit version?
[07:38] <[jmad980]> uname
[07:38] <maco> blekos: uname -m
[07:38] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, looks like that's ebox.
[07:38] <rww> blekos: type "uname -a" in a terminal, look for "x86_64" near the end.
[07:38] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm at the boot menu and after selecting english .. the only options are "install ubuntu' check disk for defects / test mem/ boot frm first HD and rescure a broken system
[07:38] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, hang on, my sys admin just came online, i'll get him to take a look at it.
[07:38] <Jordan_U> jpohl: abhi_nav: With grub2 you can use full menu entry titles for the value of GRUB_DEFUALT, that way it doesn't depend on numbering.
[07:38] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: ok
[07:38] <blekos> i c
[07:38] <jpohl> Jordan_U: cool
[07:39] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph can you clarify your problem
[07:39] <blekos> and why the build is named AMD64?
[07:39] <maco> blekos: because thats the actual architecture
[07:39] <blekos> I am confused, i want to download virtual box
[07:39] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, you mean typing the text e.g. 'Ubuntu 10.04' etc like that?
[07:39] <blekos> and i see i386 and AMD64
[07:39] <koshari>  blekos amd first bought out 64 bit evtensions
[07:39] <maco> blekos: and if youre confused as an intel user... intel licenses the amd64 architecture from amd
[07:39] <maco> blekos: i386 is 32bit
[07:39] <blekos> aha
[07:39] <Jordan_U> abhi_nav: Yes
[07:39] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i'm about to put a picture of it on pastebin or something.. i just installed on a dv series laptop
[07:39] <abhi_nav> blekos, AMD64 is 64bit ubuntu
[07:40] <blekos> thnx for clarifying
[07:40] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, nice :)
[07:40] <Blue1> blekos: do a uname -a and paste results here
[07:40] <Cpt_Zyph> and it dosn't like my video driver / onboard card all i see is flicker'n screen and it apears to be like 5 copies of each screen its not ligned up at all
[07:40] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, thoughts?
[07:40] <erry> I have a little  problem when i click ctrl + alt + f1 to go to tty1 my screen goes black and it never turns on agayin unless i go back to x
[07:41] <blekos> Linux HAL 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 19:31:57 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:41] <Blue1> erry: click?
[07:41] <erry> Blue1, press*
[07:41] <Jordan_U> jpohl: Just make sure to quote the title if it contains spaces.
[07:41] <erry> Sorry :P
[07:41] <abhi_nav> Blue1, haa haa h :D
[07:41] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i had this issue with fedora but i could set in fedora fresh install to boot command line only and then do some repo adds and updates and install the nvidia manualy to resolve that issue..
[07:41] <Blue1> blekos: you have a 64 bit archetecture and should use amd64
[07:41] <jpohl> Jordan_U: i was just about to ask that, thanks :-)
[07:41] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas but i dunno how to do that with ubuntu
[07:42] <erry> Blue1, so any ideas?
[07:42] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, double quite? or single?
[07:42] <blekos> thnx
[07:42] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, you need to start ubuntu in recovery mode...did you try that?
[07:42] <Cpt_Zyph> it wont
[07:42] <Blue1> erry: you should get a black screen with a login prompt - to return back to x-windows -- use alt+f7 iirc
[07:42] <blekos> btw, do you know how i can change the dimensions of my touchpad?
[07:42] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas it never completes boot when i try that
[07:42] <erry> Blue1, I don't get anything in the screen. it turns off.
[07:42] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: it is normally found in /etc/httpd
[07:42] <abhi_nav> blekos, physical dimension?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> abhi_nav: Either (/etc/default/grub is interpreted by /bin/sh, so shell quoting rules apply)
[07:42] <blekos> i tried to find X11.conf but it is "empty"
[07:42] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: isnt that the case with you?
[07:42] <Cpt_Zyph> it just stays black screen with blick'n curser line on the middle bottom of my screen
[07:42] <blekos> nop
[07:43] <blekos> touching dimensions
[07:43] <Blue1> erry: dunno that's what I get here.  what kind of video card to you have?
[07:43] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, file is there, just empty
[07:43] <erry> Blue1, ati
[07:43] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, ok . thanks
[07:43] <Blue1> erry: model number?
[07:43] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas in the rescue mode from install cd should i pick the sda1 or just do the do not use a root file system?
[07:43] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, try adding vga=ask to the kernel line at boot time
[07:43] <blekos> when I wan to press left/ right click I have to press the area near the end of touchpad
[07:43] <erry> Blue1, um... how do i check? I tend to forget :p
[07:43] <blekos> bottom end
[07:43] <Blue1> erry: lspci | grep VGA
[07:43] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, sda1
[07:44] <erry> Blue1, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[07:44] <Blue1> erry: old card --
[07:44] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas ok execute a shell in dev sda1
[07:44] <erry> Blue1, iknow. It's a laptop. Not much i can do :p
[07:44] <Guest16672> can any one help me with telnet behind proxy server
[07:45] <Blue1> erry: unfortunately old ati cards (like the one I had on another machine) are in legacy mode.  which means ati NO longer maintains the drivers.
[07:45] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, try Xorg -configure
[07:45] <erry> Blue1, i know that as well :(
[07:45] <Blue1> erry hang on a sec
[07:45] <erry> ok
[07:45] <Jordan_U> abhi_nav: You're welcome.
[07:45] <erry> 1 sec passed!
[07:45] <erry> just kidding :p
[07:45] <jpohl> Jordan_U: abhi_nav: working fine now, thanks 2 both
[07:45] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, :)
[07:45] <Jordan_U> jpohl: You're welcome.
[07:45] <abhi_nav> jpohl, :)
[07:46] <Blue1> erry: can you do the following and pastebin the results?  grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:46] <MeatCurtains> Does anyone know what firmware deals with melfas touch screen sensors?
[07:46] <Blue1> !pastebin | erry
[07:46] <abhi_nav> i am still hanging. 1 sec passed? ;)
[07:47] <erry> Blue1, i know i know :p
[07:47] <erry> Blue1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452345/
[07:47] <Blue1> erry: thanks
[07:47] <erry> np
[07:48] <loopidity> how do I get my laptop speaker sound? only earphone works as I booted with them plugged in
[07:48] <Blue1> erry: this ain't good!  (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols.
[07:48] <erry> Blue1, i used to have a problem with this card. The screen would flicker. IT was resolved after running a command i was told in this channel i don't remember which
[07:48] <phlak_user> loopidity: run alsamixer and move all sliders to max
[07:48] <Sickler> why is "64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage"  <--- from ubuntu download page
[07:49] <loopidity> loopidity@~ >>>--->>> alsamixer
[07:49] <loopidity> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:49] <erry> But anyway from the first time i installed 10.04 i realised my card can't be very well supported :p
[07:49] <abhi_nav> SlidingHorn, 64 is recommended
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Sickler:  they are being 'over cautious' and theres been bug reports filed to get that wordiong changed
[07:49] <loopidity> phlak_user cant open alsamixer
[07:49] <Blue1> erry: don't know.  I wasn't here
[07:49] <phlak_user> loopidity: why?
[07:49] <SlidingHorn> abhi_nav, huh?  i haven't said anything since I entered.....
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Sickler:  if you can use 64 - you may as well use 64bit
[07:49] <erry> Blue1, im just mentioning
[07:49] <abhi_nav> SlidingHorn, ohh sorry ;)
[07:49] <erry> Blue1, it doesnt do that anymore but now it wont go to tty
[07:49] <Blue1> Sickler: I use 64 bit for desktop works well
[07:50] <Wall_is> hey.
[07:50] <abhi_nav> SlidingHorn, it was for Sickler
[07:50] <loopidity> phlak_user loopidity@~ >>>--->>> alsamixer -->cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:50] <abhi_nav> Sickler, i use 64 too
[07:50] <phlak_user> loopidity: what laptop are you on?
[07:50] <loopidity> acer
[07:50] <loopidity> 64bit
[07:50] <loopidity> ubuntu 10.04
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, so, what now?
[07:51] <Blue1> erry: what driver do you have enabled?  iow if you go to System/Administration/Hardware Drivers what do you see?
[07:51] <phlak_user> loopidity: can you pastebin your lspci?
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, 1 sec
[07:51] <loopidity> alsamixer used to work, if I hadnt plugged in the earphone
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, altho im sure there's nothing there but let me verify it
[07:51] <phlak_user> loopidity: try alsamixer -c0
[07:51] <Wall_is> normally on Ubuntu all should be detected.
[07:51] <Blue1> erry: i'd be surprised if there was, but let's do a reality check
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, no propriety drivers
[07:52] <Wall_is> you could try with a simple : sudo alsa-utils restart
[07:52] <erry> Blue1, idk why but i actually have ati's control panel [ofc it wont start because i dont have the driver]
[07:52] <Cpt_Zyph> sry i didn't notice i clicked into the wrong channel
[07:52] <Blue1> erry: yeah you are prolly using the default ati driver. let me see what's on the ati site hang a moment
[07:52] <loopidity> invalid card index
[07:52] <loopidity> alsautils restart doesnt help either
[07:52] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i'm at the terminal prompt now
[07:53] <phlak_user> loopidity: lets take a look at that lspci
[07:53] <bricky> hey is there a better way to cache tumbnails in linux?
[07:53] <loopidity> http://pastebin.com/9cH8fHn4 phlak_user
[07:53] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas hwo do i do that from the command prompt?
[07:53] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, well start by reconfiguring your xorg.conf
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  clarify what you mean.
[07:53] <celeritas> Xorg -configure
[07:53] <celeritas> !details
[07:53] <Cpt_Zyph> configureation failed
[07:54] <Wall_is> quitte
[07:54] <Cpt_Zyph> "number of created screens does not match number of detected devices configureation failed
[07:54] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, any errors in specific?
[07:54] <Guest16672> anybody please help me with telnet
[07:54] <Blue1> erry: there is a driver here:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English  but I doubt if that's any better then what you have.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Guest16672:  give more detaiils.
[07:54] <Cpt_Zyph> ddxsiggiveup: closing log
[07:54] <bricky> Dr_Willis: noticed that my videoss and photos keep reloading even after just seeing them
[07:54] <erry> Blue1, ok let me try to install it.. If you see any smoke it's my laptop :p
[07:54] <Blue1> Guest16672: what help do you need?
[07:55] <bricky> Dr_Willis: after I browse out of that dir
[07:55] <Guest16672> i want telnet behind proxy server,how to do that
[07:55] <Blue1> erry: just make sure you know how to undo this if it doesn't work! --
[07:55] <erry> Blue1, um i dont
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  if you mean in the Gnome file manager. thers some settings for the cache sizes. but i normally disable all the thumbnails. so i dont recall where the setting is at.
[07:55] <erry> Blue1, do i just uninstall the package?>
[07:55] <Blue1> erry: that I am not sure on....
[07:55] <bricky> Dr_Willis: ahh is there any other 'file managers' available? i heard there was
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> Guest16672:  dont msg me.. ask questions in the channel.
[07:56] <erry> Blue1, well it;s ok i can connect to the laptop through ssh in case anything goes wrong. Unless it goes so wrong that it doesn't boot :p
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  theres dozens of file managers available.
[07:56] <Blue1> erry: its been quite awhile wince I fuxed with that, I think I had to re-install the old driver.
[07:56] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, where is your xorg.conf? look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:56] <Blue1> erry: I did that in my Suse days, not ubuntu
[07:57] <bricky> Dr_Willis :)
[07:57] <Cpt_Zyph> ok i used vi /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking through it now
[07:57] <bkadoctaj> Cpt_Zyph: you know vi?
[07:57] <erry> Blue1, Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[07:57] <Cpt_Zyph> normaly use vim in fedora but i know it well enough
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> to treat it like edit in windows or something not that complicated
[07:58] <vishu> is there  a package manager to construct packages that are already installed in the system?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> default 'vim' in ubuntu is a vim-light - Yiou may want to install the full vim package if you do a lot of Vim-work
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> trying to find out in this log file were it says my config is located at
[07:58] <phlak_user> loopidity: does the sound still work in your headphones?
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> this is a default setup .. should all pretty much be the default locations
[07:58] <drizzt_> bricky, most file managers are much worse than nautilus
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  construct? You mean generate a list>?
[07:58] <Blue1> erry: sorry....you need someone with more experience then I.
[07:58] <vishu> nope generate a deb back
[07:59] <erry> ok
[07:59] <bkadoctaj> drizzt_: in what sense?
[07:59] <Blue1> erry: :-(
 tripelb: did you try from CUPS? localhost:631 ?  -- I have no idea. I chose print in chrome.
[07:59] <loopidity> phlak_user no its not
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  you mean yiu installed via a .deb  deleted the deb. and now you want the .deb back...
[07:59] <vishu> i want to install them on another system
[07:59] <erry> It's weird though, the card seems to work perfectly as long asi'm in a gui
[07:59] <Cpt_Zyph> "using configu directory: /usr/lib/x11/xorg.conf.d
[07:59] <drizzt_> bkadoctaj, they're too primitive to be useful
[07:59] <vishu> ya
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  that would be a neat trick. not seen a way to do it
[08:00] <Cpt_Zyph> s it trying to load NOUVEAU driver..
[08:00] <bkadoctaj> drizzt_: lol, I think you're saying that GUI should be CLI.
[08:00] <vishu> i heard a package manager does that
[08:00] <phlak_user> loopidity: ah ok, i was thinking it works with headphones but not with lappy speakers :0
[08:00] <Blue1> wow it's midnight - -I turned into a pumpkin!
[08:00] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, try mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old followed by Xorg -configure
[08:00] <Cpt_Zyph> goes through a list of known nvida cards a then fallingn and probes voodo and old sis neomagic types then gives up after trigh .. vesa
[08:00] <erry> Blue1, maybe you can help with my sound problem!
[08:00] <loopidity> phlak_user this happens everytime i plug earphones initially
[08:00] <vishu> i have to install gstreamer stuff into my firends lapppy
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  theres specific  scripts in the .deb' that get ran.. but they dont get saves/installed anywhere that i know of.. so that would be a neat trick
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  check the /var/cache to see if the debs are still there?
[08:01] <bricky> drizzt_: probably , :)
[08:01] <Blue1> erry: all I know about sound cards is that turtle beach (cirrus logic) cards aren't well support be soundblaster is!
[08:01] <vishu> only some crap is there no useful stuff
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  i perfer 'rox-filer' as my main file manager most of the time.
[08:01] <Cpt_Zyph> same error
[08:01] <bricky> ill look through my cache setts and let ya know how it works out
[08:01] <bricky> Dr_Willis: ahh kewl
[08:01] <vishu> i have read about a package manager that can do it with dependencies also included i forgot the name:(
[08:02] <loopidity> phlak_user so is the driver not loaded in mine?
[08:02] <erry> Blue1, well amarok often tells me the playback device "doesnt work"
[08:03] <erry> Blue1, esp if i was running something else that's supposed to play music before
[08:03] <Blue1> erry: ever used guayadeque?
[08:03] <erry> Blue1, what? :p
[08:03] <mfraz74> erry: I used to to get that all the time
[08:03] <Blue1> erry: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174
[08:03] <erry> mfraz74, how did you fix it?
[08:03] <Blue1> erry: it will come standard issue in ubuntu 10.10
[08:04] <phlak_user> loopidity: can you pastebin your lsmod
[08:04] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, Xorg.0.log should have more specific details about the nature of the error. also, since we have changed the xorg.conf, X should fail at boot time for your ubuntu, giving you a chance to try Xorg -configure from there
[08:04] <erry> ok
[08:04] <mfraz74> erry: Not sure if it was exactly the same problem as you, but sometimes when I turned the computer on I got told that no audio device was found and it was falling back to .
[08:04] <vishu> Dr_Willis, anyother way?
[08:04] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas rgr that ill make sure its moved and backed up and try a reboot
[08:04] <mfraz74> erry: solved it by upgrading to 10.04
[08:04] <erry> mfraz74, that's what i'm using
[08:04] <erry> :p
[08:05] <erry> mfraz74, yeah that's my problem. Although it falls back to the recording device before it falls back to .
[08:05] <loopidity> phlak_user http://pastebin.com/nAA2YNx0
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  no idea. I personally set up one machine on my lan as an apt-cache server it serves up and cachaes all the packages.
[08:06] <vishu> oo
[08:07] <mfraz74> erry: was getting rather annoying in the end as it happened more often with 9.10. doing a new install of 10.04 seems to have stopped it
[08:07] <erry> mfraz74, this was a clean install of 10.04 after my partition died
[08:07] <rohitnikocool> hi ubuntu
[08:07] <mfraz74> erry: oh
[08:07] <mfraz74> erry: is this with kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:08] <erry> mfraz74, ubunt
[08:08] <erry> u
[08:08] <Blue1> erry: partitions don't die - they succomb to windows
[08:08] <mfraz74> erry: kubuntu, could it be something to do with pulseaudio?
[08:08] <erry> Blue1, my laptop overheated while resizing my old debian partition
[08:08] <phlak_user> loopidity: that looks fine; infact similar to mine :)
[08:09] <mfraz74> erry: I had noticed that it only happened with KDE apps, anything that wasn't KDE produced sound OK
[08:09] <rohitnikocool> any other player rather than rythmbox,recently i founded there are bugs in it.
[08:09] <erry> mfraz74, hm yah
[08:09] <erry> mfraz74, when i had debian and kde i didnt have a prob with amarok
[08:09] <celeritas> .
[08:09] <erry> so maybe it's something to do with gnome vs kde
[08:09] <phlak_user> loopidity: can you install pavucontrol
[08:09] <Blue1> erry: that's never good
[08:09] <antonella> does anybody know what command to link to a shortcut for to raise and lower system volume?
[08:10] <loopidity> phlak_user sure, what is it?
[08:10] <Blue1> erry: move to chicago in winder and re-try the install
[08:10] <erry> Blue1, lol
[08:10] <phlak_user> loopidity: this will help you have greater control over the pulseaudio system; you can select the input/output devices here
[08:10]  * celeritas Going for system halt NOW
[08:10] <abhi_nav> antonella, fn + '+' for up and fn + '-' for down
[08:10] <loopidity> ok, thanks :)
[08:10] <erry> Blue1, it's ok i used an airduster. You dontwant to know how much dust there was in there
[08:10] <erry> in the fan
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> antonella:  you could make a launcher that runs  one of the alsa control command line  commands..
[08:10] <rohitnikocool> suggest a music player rather than rythmbox.
[08:10] <Cpt_Zyph> well none of these things are working.. 8(
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> !xmms
[08:11] <Blue1> erry: my computers are just a few feet from the cat box - trust me I KNOW
[08:11] <MeatCurtains> Anyone have any clues as to what the firmware for melfas touch screen sensors may be?
[08:11] <Cpt_Zyph> i finaly got recovery menu to .. well kinda be legable but when i try to boot in failsafe graphics mode it says it can't detect the Hardware and i need ot set it up manualy
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> Blue1:  i have Pomerianians - wife pc was 1 Huge dust/fur ball on the inside.
[08:11]  * erry is playing with a hexbug
[08:11] <erry> keeps getting its feet caught on the mouse wire he
[08:11] <erry> heh*
[08:11] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: yeah but I also get hairball souffles on the side.
[08:12] <Cpt_Zyph> the i think it has a follow up screen that says what i would l.. like to do i'm guess'n
[08:12] <Devrethman> How do I add an sshfs filesystem to /etc/fstab?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> They have this blueish 'air filter' material at stores you can get. easy to cut/wrap your pc/s openings - cuts down on dust Big time. :)
[08:12] <loopidity> phlak_user done, how to start it? pavucontrol start?
[08:12] <loopidity> phlak_user even this one says no cards available
[08:12] <Devrethman> It keeps complaining that it's an unknown filesystem, and I don't know what to use.
[08:12] <Cpt_Zyph> and says run ubuntu in low graphics.. reconfigure graf and exit to console login.. consol login will not show me anything after i type down pasat the screen
[08:12] <Blue1> Devrethman: yeah I've never heard of that either
[08:13] <loopidity> phlak_user configuration says no cards for configuration
[08:13] <Blue1> Devrethman: do you mean ntfs?
[08:13] <loopidity> phlak_user is it because the drivers arent loaded?
[08:13] <Devrethman> Blue1: No, I mean SSHFS, as in the fuse SFTP filesystem, but I figured it out, so nevermind.
[08:14] <Blue1> Devrethman: ahh okay -- I just set my sansa fuse to not use mtp and it works fine
[08:14] <Cpt_Zyph> maybe i'll just give up and reinstall fedora
[08:14] <Cpt_Zyph> 8( this is start'n to get too frustrating
[08:14] <Devrethman> Blue1: Oh, apparently there's just an odd syntax for using fuse filesystems in fstab
[08:15] <loopidity> phlak_user http://pastebin.com/kgqYxEng
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> Devrethman:  just a fast google finds --> sshfs#Benutzername@irgendEinRechner:/pfad_auf_dem_server/ ~/fusessh fuse uid=1003,gid=100,umask=0,allow_other,_netdev 0 0
[08:15] <Blue1> Devrethman: mine automounts
[08:15] <phlak_user> loopidity: you seem to be using oss instead of alsa which is ok
[08:16] <Devrethman> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I got it.
[08:16] <_jaldhar> For future reference Lightning on #kubuntu fixed my problem with the disabled knetworkmanager.  rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state and then restart NetworkManager
[08:16] <Cpt_Zyph> befor ei give up can anyone tell me how in the recovering console command line i can edit run lvls?
[08:16] <WhiteFlower> Hi, Guys
[08:16] <loopidity> ok
[08:16] <Blue1> Devrethman: do you have a sansa fuse mp3 player?
[08:16] <WhiteFlower> Anyone Around?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  what are youy trying to do with runlevels? ubuntu dosent really use them the way other disrtos do.
[08:16] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: no
[08:17] <Devrethman> Blue1: no... fuse=Filesystem in USErspace. I'm using it to mount remote servers into my filesystem
[08:17] <WhiteFlower> I have a Problem?
[08:17] <Blue1> Devrethman: okay that's beyond my knowledge
[08:17] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: and?
[08:17] <WhiteFlower> and i dont know computers very well?
[08:17] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis well my graphic card sucks for fresh install and everything i have tried all day .. and plenty of folks have tried to help me have failed
[08:17] <erry> Blue1, that player you suggested is pretty awesome :)
[08:17] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: cut to the chase, what is your question?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  i dont see how thats related to runlevels.
[08:17] <Cpt_Zyph> i have this problem with fedora as well but i set it to run lvl 3 with no gui and i can fix it manualy via terminal
[08:17] <Blue1> erry: it works well with linux
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  fedora and ubuntu dont do runlevels the same
[08:18] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis i get that i'm trying to learn ubunut atm so i dont kno what to do
[08:18] <erry> Blue1, but i said add directory and it seem to do something but play still doesnt do?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  if you want to go to 'text' mode uin ubuntu - you can append the 'text' option to the end of the kernel boot entry in grub
[08:18] <workspace2> clear
[08:18] <erry> Blue1, and on the menu on the right i cant choose directorys it wont do anything :S
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  or disable the /etc/init/gdm.conf by renaming it to /etc/init/gdm.DONTRUN
[08:18] <WhiteFlower> My Friend gave me a cd and he want all the songs from my computer to that cd
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  to be clear. run level 3 in ubuntu does NOT go into 'text' mode.
[08:19] <Blue1> erry: refresh my memory - what are we talking about?
[08:19] <WhiteFlower> but i dont know how to copy
[08:19] <erry> Blue1, nvm i thinmk o got it
[08:19] <WhiteFlower> all songs to cd
[08:19] <WhiteFlower> please help?
[08:19] <drizzt_> WhiteFlower, it's a piracy, don't do that
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  you want a complete copy of the cd as it is now?
[08:19] <Blue1> okay so....how do you plan to do this?
[08:19] <Cpt_Zyph> ok i was also told in grub to add a "single" entry to load only command line mode
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> yes i have the orignal song cd
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  single goes to single user mode.. 'text' keeps gdm and plymouth from running
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  similer 'effect' buit not quite the same
[08:20] <Cpt_Zyph> this is new to me so forgive me for noobie questions
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> and i copied all the songs to my computer
[08:20] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: I think k3b has a copy cd function
[08:20] <Cpt_Zyph> so in grub boot menu after holding shift i then hit e to edit its boot options.. and i need to change the text in there correct?
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> what is k3b
[08:20] <phlak_user> WhiteFlower: are you on ubuntu
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> no
[08:21] <WhiteFlower> windows xp
[08:21] <Blue1> !k3b | WhiteFlower
[08:21] <dreamnight> help solve the problem, congress ubuntu server on it running crontab that runs mplayer (@ reboot). Playlist play in loop. After an hour or half mplayer stops. Process ends. Can not understand why.
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  then track down a cd copy tool for windows? its not that hard a task.. there was no need to copy the songs to the hd first.. you want a exact clone/copuy of the allready made music cd.
[08:21] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis so in grub boot menu after holding shift i then hit e to edit its boot options.. and i need to change the text in there correct?
[08:21] <Cpt_Zyph> be right back
[08:21] <drizzt_> !piracy | whiteflower
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  yes there will be a 'splash quiet '  I think.. remove thiose and try just 'text'
[08:22] <arpad2> can i boot 10.04 from cd-rw?
[08:22] <WhiteFlower> oh sorry
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> arpad2:  should be able to
[08:22] <arpad2> it freezes
[08:22] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis ? sry i dont folow i'm booting to grub edit menu now
[08:22] <WhiteFlower> but i have original cds i bought from the store
[08:22] <Blue1> arpad2: yes
[08:23] <arpad2> ok, thx
[08:23] <drizzt_> WhiteFlower, then you should pass the original CD, don't copy it
[08:23] <Blue1> night folks
[08:23] <WhiteFlower> ok
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  see some wored that are 'splash quite' or similer at the kernel= line? append the 'text' option to the end
[08:23] <MeatCurtains> anyone know of a program that will let me read header files. I know they are not all empty, yet when I open one its blank
[08:23] <Cpt_Zyph> i see that now
[08:23] <Cpt_Zyph> just remove that?
[08:23] <WhiteFlower> copy of original cd is illegal
[08:23] <dreamnight> help solve the problem, congress ubuntu server on it running crontab that runs mplayer (@ reboot). Playlist play in loop. After an hour or half mplayer stops. Process ends. Can not understand why.
[08:24] <Cpt_Zyph> and what exactly does that do?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  'text' disables the gdm  so X doswent start.. thats what you asked how to do...
[08:24] <maco> WhiteFlower: if youre making the copy to give to someone else though...
[08:24] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis I see so repace exactly "quiet splash" with "test" thanks doign that now
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> or have you frogotten what you asked for? :)
[08:25] <erry> So is there anything who can help me :(
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  'text'  not test;
[08:25] <WhiteFlower> no he is my cousin
[08:25] <WhiteFlower> brother
[08:25] <Cpt_Zyph> anerr sry
[08:25] <Cpt_Zyph> typo
[08:25] <Cpt_Zyph> and to save settings?? or simple ctrl x to finish the boot with my new adjustments?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  they diont save.. its a 1 time thing
[08:26] <Cpt_Zyph> baaaaaa
[08:26] <WhiteFlower> new is going out for a month and he wanted only selected songs
[08:26] <dreamnight> can anyone help?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> if you want it permenet - edit the grub 2 configs
[08:26] <WhiteFlower> that is why i am asking
[08:26] <phlak_user> WhiteFlower: this is a Ubuntu support channel; please install ubuntu and come back for support or reach out to Windoze support channels
[08:26] <Cpt_Zyph> same problem  all the txt is not lined up with my screen i can see the workd {ok} like 10x but i see some txt below that but canc't read it and there is nothing on the rest of my screen
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  i never heard your 'original' problem. :) you were asking how to get to text mode via runlevels.. which isent a ubuntu feature. :)
[08:27] <Cpt_Zyph> dr_willis its like i dunno.. maybe i'll get my camera out and take pictures and uplaod them someplace.. i dont know how else to discribe the issue
[08:27] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis i understand
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:   this is a dvi or vga monitor? or laptop?
[08:27] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis basicly laptop
[08:27] <WhiteFlower> but i dont like windows either and the problem is i dont no how to install ubuntu and work on it
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> !manual | WhiteFlower
[08:28] <Cpt_Zyph> DV series try'n to find out what time of vid card it is... but its nvidia
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  play with it in virtualbox untill you learn it.. then learn to install it.
[08:28] <dreamnight> can anyone help?
[08:29] <WhiteFlower> sorry Dr_Willis i have got my first computers 15 days back and i dont no how to use it
[08:29] <arpad2> how can i boot 10.04 from a pendrive?
[08:29] <WhiteFlower> even i dont know windows very well
[08:29] <drizzt_> phlak_user, intentional misspelling of Microsoft trademarks ,akes us Linux users look like retards
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  time to get reading some docs/books/guides i guess.
[08:30] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis look'n up device on HP's site for exact product specs
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> arpad2:  use unetbootin, or the usb-disk-creator tool and a ubuntu iso image and make a bootable pendrive.
[08:30] <phlak_user> drizzt_: thats just your opinion right?
[08:30] <arpad2> thank you!
[08:30] <drizzt_> phlak_user, no, that's truth
[08:30] <WhiteFlower> will you people help me out learning linux
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> arpad2:  see the 'pendrivelinux' web site for more ways to do it also
[08:31] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: sure, but you need to ask specific questions...
[08:31] <arpad2> ok, i do it
[08:31] <dreamnight> what's the point in these channels, if all ignore each other
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  start with the Ubuntu manual.
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !manual | WhiteFlower
[08:31] <phlak_user> drizzt_: ah thats why your trying to help him copy files in windows xp
[08:31] <soreau> are ubuntu updates always this slow to download? 3000bps seems unreasonably slow
[08:31] <phlak_user> drizzt_: anyways, take it ot please
[08:31] <Blue1> soreau: yeah that is slow
[08:31] <WhiteFlower> I only know the word linux nothing else about it
[08:31] <Blue1> soreau: not using tin cans ru?
[08:32] <WhiteFlower> i am totally new to this world
[08:32] <WhiteFlower> of computers
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  start with that manual. and  the ubuntu homepage then.
[08:32] <dreamnight> can anyone help?
[08:32] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: go to amazon and look to see what's there.
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  and go download and burn a ubuntu cd. you can boot it and play with it all day long and not hurt anything
[08:32] <WhiteFlower> yes i tried there are lots of books but i dont know from where to start
[08:32] <drizzt_> Dr_Willis, that manual is quite outdated (~9.04 time), has no official support and available only in english
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  err.. the ubuntu manual just came out for 10.04
[08:33] <BeWop> Hello
[08:33] <Blue1> dreamnight: what is your issue?  it works best if you just say:  hey I need help with...then we aren't left wondering what you need help with.
[08:33] <BeWop> How can I remove libgl1-mesa-swx11 without removing any of it's dependancies?
[08:33] <WhiteFlower> i tried to download ubuntu cd but it says 3days 7 hrs remaining
[08:33] <dreamnight> Blue1 help solve the problem, congress ubuntu server on it running crontab that runs mplayer (@ reboot). Playlist play in loop. After an hour or half mplayer stops. Process ends. Can not understand why.
[08:33] <WhiteFlower> then i cancelled the download
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  local book stores proberly have magazines with the cd's also
[08:34] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis its a dv6000 series .. tab number is dv6810us .. video card is the following / INVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M (tho it think its a typo and supposed to be nvidia but )
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !shipit | WhiteFlower
[08:34] <drizzt_> dreamnight, write a wrapper script which outputs stderr and stdout in some files
[08:34] <Blue1> dreamnight: first why lock mplayer into crontab?  no one does that.  I don't know why it ends.
[08:34] <cavej03> hi guys thinking fo getting a dell adamo laptop, Thoughts and opinions please
[08:34] <cavej03> or perhaps i should get a macbook air
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  ive never had uissues like that with my nvidia systems - so not sure what else to try.  except perjhaps an external monitor. or the alternative installer cd
[08:35] <BeWop> Anyone know how to remove packages without removing their dependancies?
[08:35] <Blue1> BeWop: not really -- try man dpkg?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> brb
[08:35] <BeWop> Blue1: How?
[08:36] <erry> Btw
[08:36] <erry> if i boot without gui
[08:36] <erry> it's fine
[08:36] <Blue1> enter man dpkg at a terminal window
[08:36] <erry> Except everything moves more to the right than it should
[08:36] <WhiteFlower> ok i will try that site
[08:36] <Cpt_Zyph> alternative installer cd?? well like i said before i had same problem with fedora release as well.. well newer then 8 that is.. so at that point i had to change run lvl bascily to command line only and then add repo's and install nvidia through that method but i dont know what to do and i'm starting to think i should just go back and try fedora13..
[08:36] <Blue1> BeWop: enter man dpkg at a terminal window
[08:36] <BeWop> Blue1: Kay
[08:36] <Cpt_Zyph> dr_willis but i really want to try this distro.  what are some other install options i can try?
[08:36] <BeWop> Blue1: Now what?
[08:37] <Blue1> BeWop: that will show you all the options - you'll have to rtfm
[08:37] <prince_jammys>  read :)
[08:37] <ennui> does anyone know of a reason why grub would fail to install when installing lucid from a live CD? do I need an internet connect when installing so grub can 'update'?
[08:37] <BeWop> Blue1: Awesome...
[08:37] <Cpt_Zyph> should i try a custom version that has proper nvidia support or an older version .. maybe a live cd to see if it has the same problems?
[08:38] <Blue1> Cpt_Zyph: personally I use the 185 driver with nvidia seems to have fewest issues
[08:38] <Cpt_Zyph> blue1 how do i do that?
[08:38] <Cpt_Zyph> blue1 i would love to try i just can't seem to do anything on this system or get it to boot in any manor that would allow me to change settings o ther  then recovery from install cd
[08:38] <Blue1> Cpt_Zyph: you'd go into System/Administration/Hardware Drivers
[08:39] <WhiteFlower> But which is better ubuntu or kubuntu
[08:39] <Cpt_Zyph> blue1 i can't
[08:39] <Blue1> Cpt_Zyph: ahh don't know then
[08:39] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: ubuntu is closer to windows if that's what your familiar with.
[08:39] <Cpt_Zyph> blue1 i can't make out anything on the screen i think at thsi point i shoudl take a screen shot and post it online to help explain what i can't with words *) its a interesting problem.. and if i didn't already fix it once in fedora i wouldu think i had no options but there has to be a away i just dunno what it is for ubuntu 8(
[08:40] <Blue1> Cpt_Zyph: might help -- as they say a picture is worth a 1000 words
[08:40] <soreau> Cpt_Zyph: Which driver were you using in fedora?
[08:40] <drizzt_> Blue1, ubuntu is lame OSX copy, it's not very close to windows
[08:41] <Blue1> drizzt_: well there's no place like gnome!
[08:41] <Cpt_Zyph> i can try to dig up th eguide i have not done it for quite some time sense fedor 9 but i basicly added some repos' via a guide.. and then did a command to get a nivida driver.. and thats all i had to do
[08:41] <hd1> whatever happened to the xarchon package?
[08:41] <WhiteFlower> no for me whether its windows or ubuntu or kubuntu i am new to all
[08:41] <hd1> it was in jaunty, but not in lucid or karmic
[08:41] <soreau> drizzt_: If you have nothing but bad things to say about ubuntu, you can leave.
[08:41] <ChrisNZL> Hi there, my games have stopped working.
[08:42] <soreau> ChrisNZL: Which games?
[08:42] <ChrisNZL> I cant play assault cube, it just doesn't laod them.
[08:42] <WhiteFlower> i dont even know any thing of the operating systems
[08:42] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: personally I don't care for kde but hey that's me, and linux gives you options aplenty as for which gui to use.
[08:42] <Cpt_Zyph> soreau it was instructions from fedora site.. still looking one sec
[08:42] <suprengr> Any system font experts tuned in atm?  I had a bout of curiosity and installed KDE standard package via synaptic [just out of curiosity] - I ran 1 KDE session and removed it.  No real probs but a heck of an annoyance... firefox and open office now use what looks like a KDE font for menus etc [yuk! and too small]  Any ideas on what/where to reset/reinstall/check?
[08:42] <gps23> how can i find out which ethernet chip am i using?
[08:42] <Effit> Hey, just wondering. Is there any way I can get two separate wallpapers for different workplaces on the workplace switcher/desktop cube?
[08:42] <ChrisNZL> Well, I used to be able to play flightgear, but now thats stopped working.
[08:42] <ChrisNZL> Just doesnt load
[08:42] <soreau> ! who | ChrisNZL
[08:43] <WhiteFlower> i have one more question to ask
[08:43] <kanhiya> i have nokia 5130 but i am unable to connect to internet via bluetooth gprs infact when i set up bluetooth connection i got a menu to use this
[08:43] <antonella> i'm on a hp pavillion dv6000, how can I make multimedia keys work?
[08:43] <Blue1> ubottu: well said!
[08:43] <hd1> !tab
[08:43] <ChrisNZL>  ! who | soreau
[08:43] <phlak_user> !bluetooth | kanhiya
[08:43] <hd1> whatever happened to the xarchon package?
[08:44] <Blue1> hd1: sorry never heard of it.
[08:44] <WhiteFlower> i have a cd which is 700Mb of size but when i saw the propeties of that cd it shows 1.23 gb
[08:44] <WhiteFlower> is it possible
[08:44] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: sure if it's a dvd
[08:44] <drizzt_> hd1, check packages.ubuntu.com
[08:44] <Effit> Hey, just wondering. Is there any way I can get two separate wallpapers for different workplaces on the workplace switcher/desktop cube?
[08:44] <WhiteFlower> no its a cd
[08:45] <hd1> drizzt_: I did, mate, which is how I found it WAS in jaunty, but isn't in karmic/lucid
[08:45] <Walex> WhiteFlower: compressed image. Perhaps you are confusing the size of the filesystem on the CD with the size of the compressed image of the filesystem
[08:45] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: what programme is reporting that size?
[08:45] <hd1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xar
[08:45] <phlak_user> WhiteFlower: if you are doing all this checking while not on Ubuntu, nobody can help you here
[08:45] <tripelb> Ubuntu 9.10 and I want to turn my print image to landscape. The place to do that is Greyed Out. Please advise!! ---> Third Time Asking is the Charm!
[08:45] <TVC> WINE won't uninstall properly in 10.04
[08:45] <hd1> tripelb: no it's not, it's just annoying ;)
[08:45] <TVC> i need halp
[08:46] <hd1> TVC: yes you do, man
[08:46] <TVC> lol
[08:46] <Effit> spalling clesses?
[08:46] <hd1> Effit: :)
[08:46] <phlak_user> tripelb: where is it greyed out?
[08:46] <Blue1> Effit: bad grammer (sic) too?
[08:46] <WhiteFlower> no when i right-click the icon and click properties it shows me size of disk 700MB and data on disk 1.23 gb
[08:46] <Walex> repeated asking is fine as long as there is an interval of more than a few minutes
[08:46] <WhiteFlower> is it possible
[08:46] <tripelb> hd1: how long would you suggest between requests. It's been 2 hours. That's not annoying. If I said that about you I'd be a troll.
[08:46] <drizzt_> hd1, if it's in universe check motu mail archive
[08:46] <TVC> oh, got it, i installed Wine and Win beta
[08:46] <Effit> Blue1: naw, grammar's good :P
[08:46] <Cpt_Zyph> soreau well this is the closest related guide from back then i believe its the same http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod/
[08:47] <hd1> tripel: why would you be a troll if you said that about me?
[08:47] <Walex> tripelb: not all applications (or print drivers) support a choice of landscape vs. portrait
[08:47] <ChrisNZL> Excuse me, I get the following error when trying to start assaultcube, any thoughts? :Unable to create OpenGL screen (Couldn't find matching GLX visual)
[08:47] <WhiteFlower> and even my friends talk alot that if you even have 5 gb of data i can copy it to cd
[08:47] <WhiteFlower> is he joking or is it possible
[08:47] <Cpt_Zyph> baaa
[08:48] <tobago> i want to increase the /home partition, but i don't know how to, while i'm logged in?
[08:48] <phlak_user> WhiteFlower: you just killed the DVD industry
[08:48] <Cpt_Zyph> maybe i'll just try a live cd and if that fails i'll go back to fedora
[08:48] <maco> WhiteFlower: a cd holds 800MB
[08:48] <maco> WhiteFlower: DVDs 4.7GB
[08:48] <maco> WhiteFlower: flash drive if you want more than that
[08:48] <phlak_user> tobago: boot from livecd and do it
[08:48] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: rtfm:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gzip
[08:48] <hd1> maco: Blu-Ray?
[08:48] <maco> !rtfm | Blue1
[08:48] <tobago> phlak_user, good idea.
[08:49] <WhiteFlower> no but is he lying or he is saying the truth
[08:49] <tripelb> phlak_user, I chose print, I get a dialog box, I choose the Page_Setup Tab. And it's on the right.
[08:49] <maco> hd1: mm yeah thatd do. i forget its limit though and the hardware to burn / read it is not common
[08:49] <maco> WhiteFlower: lying. i just gave you the maximum capacities for those media
[08:49] <hd1> maco: just wondering what the capacity is...
[08:49] <Effit> Hey, just wondering. Is there any way I can get two separate wallpapers for different workplaces on the workplace switcher/desktop cube on GNOME?
[08:49] <phlak_user> tripelb: what application? Ooo or gimp etc etc?
[08:49] <Cpt_Zyph> i wonder if there is a netbook edd torrent i can try just to get a taste of it or something
[08:49] <Cpt_Zyph> i really wanted to learn this distro but maybe the machien ihave is just not good for this project at this point
[08:49] <maco> hd1: it's double-digit GB...thats all i got ;-)
[08:50] <hd1> maco: that's what I recall, but who knows the real amount :)
[08:50] <maco> Cpt_Zyph: there is ubuntu netbook remix, yess
[08:50] <Blue1> Effit: don't know don't have dual monitor - but I'd think not.
[08:50] <tripelb> phlak_user, I'm in chrome. I go to the this_page icon and pick Print (control-P)
[08:50] <WhiteFlower> i thought he is right because he is a system Linux Administrator
[08:50] <Cpt_Zyph> ]atleast not untill i learn more about the world of linux thx guys for your help.. if there is a place i can report a bug to the ubuntu folks.. i would love to send them this and see if its a major problem or if im just a major dum dumb
[08:50] <hd1> right, Google does
[08:50]  * hd1 sighs
[08:50] <bricky> hey could I delete the public and templates folder in home folder
[08:50] <Effit> Blue1: Not dual monitor, just the in-built GNOME desktop Workspace Switcher.
[08:51] <hd1> 25 Gb
[08:51] <Blue1> bricky: yes rm -r <foldername>
[08:51] <Cpt_Zyph> maco i'm on the main site now and only hvae the darn orage button click to download.. i'll keep looking i have a netbbook that is very old i wanted to see how it did on that as well
[08:51] <hd1> for single-side, 50Gb for double-side
[08:51] <bricky> Bluel: or just 'move to trash' right?
[08:51] <tripelb> Cpt_Zyph, I would like to suggest http://ubuntuforums.com  -- If you make a bug report well I never got any feedback. You will in the forums.
[08:51] <Blue1> bricky: or use the filemanager gui of choice
[08:51] <phlak_user> tripelb: and your printer is...
[08:51] <ennui> is rEFIt installed on a computer's ROM?
[08:51] <bricky> Blue1: Thanks, know any file managers that look better than the standard one?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  'fuctionality' overrides 'looks' :)
[08:52] <Blue1> bricky: I use natilus but there was one I tried eons ago, that wasn't bad...
[08:52] <tripelb> phlak_user, (oops should have mentioned that) HP 5400 series (5440)
[08:52] <bricky> Dr_Willis: very true I suppose
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  a lot of the 2 pane file managers are very good also for gettting work done. once you get used to how they work
[08:52] <maco> Cpt_Zyph: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <skurakai> Hi. I have new version 10.04 and have trouble add to "Broadcast Account" facebook account.
[08:52] <maco> Cpt_Zyph: or releases.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <hd1> bricky: emacs? :)
[08:52] <egonw> moin... I got a weird wireless network issue... after some time, the speed just drops... rebooting the laptop brings the speed back up to normal values... is this a knowm lucid problem? is there anything I can do about it?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  ive learned how to use rox-filer so its easy for me to use. or 'mc'
[08:53] <Effit> bricky: FreeCommander? I think it's called that and cross-platform...
[08:53] <WhiteFlower> ok Guys bye Hope to See you all again
[08:53] <Blue1> bricky: but the problem is, that if you use a filemanager that no one is familiar with, odds are you may have difficulty in finding help for it.
[08:53] <Blue1> bricky: thayt was the one I tried - it isn't too bad.
[08:53] <hd1> Blue1: does anyone NOT use emacs? :)
[08:53] <Cpt_Zyph> darn is there any torrent download for the netbook edd? i still dont understand why torrents arnt th eprimary download options not html downloads
[08:53] <phlak_user> tripelb: just for the sake of isolation.. does that printer let you print in landscape mode in any other application like OpenOffice or Gimp etc?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  it all deopends on the kind of work you are doing. :)   I tend to have lots of dirs with LOTS and lots of files.. i dont need the fancy eyecandy. i need easy 'filtering' of lists and so forth
[08:54] <bricky> Blue1: yeah, I was just wondering what other peoples inputs are :)
[08:54] <Blue1> hd1: I am not yet a linux weenie, and use nano.
[08:54] <kkpyuflf> 有说中文的吗？
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  should be torrents for the netbook iso. i grabed it the other day via torrent
[08:54] <phlak_user> !jp| kkpyuflf
[08:54] <hd1> Cpt_Zyph: because then people like you would be using it :)
[08:54] <phlak_user> !cn | kkpyuflf
[08:54] <hd1> Blue1: I was joking
[08:54] <bricky> Dr_Willis: I try to minimize my folders so I like viewing big thumbnails on photos, movies, etc I suppose
[08:55] <kkpyuflf> OK
[08:55] <tripelb> phlak_user, I have not used it in anything else. I will try it. I'll put that image in an open office document
[08:55] <skurakai> Hi. Is working Gwitter and facebook? I have trouble with this.
[08:55] <Blue1> hd1: I know but I wasn't - a true linux weenie knows vi - after 5 years, I never bothered with it. nano does almost everything I need it to do.
[08:55] <tsg_> hi my system freezes every second for a short time period. While that I can't move the mouse or type any keys. after about half a second the mouse jumps and for a senond everything is fine. This is very annoying
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%164%A67%92%A5h%8F%DDK%60%AEQ%A8%81%20%B6%0B%EE%2A
[08:55] <bricky> Dr_Willis: I just need to set Deluge to DL to /Downloads not /home but stuff is already in progress
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  for manging photos - theres specific tools out for that
[08:55] <bricky> than I will just use my home folder for everything
[08:55] <phlak_user> tripelb: that will help you to isolate whether its a printer issue or a app-specific one
[08:55]  * hd1 knows vi and emacs... nano boggles his mind
[08:55] <bricky> Dr_Willis: oh? I say!
[08:56] <bricky> thats a good sigh of relief
[08:56] <tripelb> phlak_user, good idea. FYI http://www.vmapas.com/maps/62-4/Africa_Political_Map.jpg
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  you mean /home/YourUsername/Downloads ? not /Downloads
[08:56] <Blue1> hd1: yeah it's simple...but it works - look ma, virtually no learning curve (or why I actually paid for nero linux)
[08:56] <bricky> Dr_Willis: I havnt really gone above my 'home' folder, lol so yes
[08:56] <tsg_> Do you have any idea on my problem?
[08:56] <hd1> Blue1: not slagging you off for it :)
[08:56] <bricky> Dr_Willis: Yeah,
[08:57]  * Dr_Willis has had to 'teach' to many beginners how to use Nano.. they really could of picked somthing else for the default editor.
[08:57] <bricky> lol. I use VIM :P
[08:57] <hd1> Dr_Willis: sed! :)
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> quote from a beginner.. 'how am i suppose dto know that ^ means control?'
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:57] <downstream> emacs ftw :P
[08:57] <phlak_user> tripelb: i used my printer setting; it wouldnt let me select landscape but in Firefox, it lets me do that in Page Setup in the file menu
[08:57] <Blue1> tsg_: have you done a top or ps -ef to see what's running?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> I saw some editor that was almost a clone of the old dos editor..
[08:57] <bricky> I had to figure that one out when my xorg.conf broke back when
[08:57] <hd1> sed should be the defaut linux editor :)
[08:57] <bricky> and I managed to fix it after about a week
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> mcedit is nice  for fast edits.
[08:58] <tsg_> I've done top and noticed some processes periodically, like ubuntuone-syncd and several task bar widgets
[08:58]  * Dr_Willis amazes the beginners at work with his 'vi-fu-skills'
[08:58] <tsg_> I killed all of them , but it didn't help
[08:58] <Blue1> bricky: took me 2 days to recover from an fstab disaster  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=9
[08:59] <bricky> :)
[08:59] <Jon--> I am having an issue mounting an NTFS partition on boot after running chkdsk on the partition. Anyone care to help?
[08:59] <sylon> ok, how do i make xscreensaver not turn on when playing movie in Totem? it appears to not work, i cant use gnome-screensaver and inside xfce
[08:59] <phlak_user> Jon--: whats the error you get?
[08:59] <vishnu> can i run kubuntu apps in ubuntu
[09:00] <rww> vishnu: yes
[09:00] <phlak_user> vishnu: you mean kDE apps inside gnome?
[09:00] <tripelb> phlak_user, I got a great greyscale map from OfficeOpen. thanks. (the chrome printerdriver failed on the greyscale too) Thank you so much. I learned what I can check myself. Thanks for your patience.
[09:00] <Jon--> phlak_user: Comes up: Error mounting /media/ACER, press S to skip or M to mount manually.
[09:00] <Blue1> phlak_user: yes
[09:00] <phlak_user> tripelb: you're welcome
[09:00] <vishnu> phlak_user: yes
[09:00] <hd1> vishnu: have you tried doing so and failed?
[09:00] <tsg_> interesting: I'm playing a music file with totem. The sound does NOT freeze, while the the visualization DOES whenever the mouse and keyboard freezes as well
[09:00] <bricky> hey guys sorry but how would I 'hide' files and all? I dont see it in properties
[09:01] <vishnu> hd1: my friend said it will crash the os
[09:01] <Jon--> phlak_user: /etc/fstab, for your info. http://pastebin.com/1nBb3rzL
[09:01] <vishnu> will it crash the os ?
[09:01] <Blue1> bricky: prepend the directory or file name with a period
[09:01] <phlak_user> vishnu: Blue1 sure you can; only it needs installation of a lot of Qt stuff
[09:01] <Blue1> phlak_user: true dat
[09:01] <bricky> Blue1: oh yeah?
[09:01] <bricky> Blue1: Thanks
[09:01] <hd1> vishnu: one way to find out
[09:01] <bricky> thats kinda different,  but neat in its own way
[09:02] <Blue1> bricky: so for example cd .gconf
[09:02] <Blue1> but if you do an ls - you won't see the directory
[09:02] <phlak_user> Jon--: thats the fstab; whats the error?
[09:02] <Jon--> phlak_user: See last message.
[09:02] <bricky> Yeah, same with folders Blue1? its still there
[09:02] <dave> org
[09:02] <Jon--> phlak_user: Comes up: Error mounting /media/ACER, press S to skip or M to mount manually.
[09:02] <Jon--> phlak_user: Purple screen, on boot.
[09:02] <leo2007> hello folks, any good command-line tool to convert ms excel file to text/html?
[09:02] <Blue1> bricky: also (at least with nautilus) and under view, click view hidden files
[09:03] <bricky> Blue1: ctrl H or something if I recall also :) which is super cool hehe
[09:03] <vishnu> i tried downloading the ubuntu repository dvd from windows. i am getting 200kb/sec but in ubuntu i am only getting 100-125kb/sec why is the ubuntu slow
[09:03] <ugliefrog> is there a sound reset from the terminal?
[09:03] <phlak_user> Jon--: so lets try mounting manually and see what the error is.. press S to skip and boot normally
[09:03] <tsg_> I also tried to disable compiz and set cpu freq explicitly to maximum
[09:03] <Blue1> leo2007: I'd try open office, but not certain as I don't do spread sheets
[09:03] <Jon--> phlak_user: Did already. Keep goin
[09:03] <leo2007> Blue1: I need to command-line tool. openoffice does it.
[09:04] <leo2007> s/to/a/
[09:04] <Blue1> vishnu: probably not an optimal driver for your ethernet card.
[09:04] <phlak_user> Jon--: open a terminal and type $ sudo mount /media/sda2 /media/ACER
[09:04] <Blue1> leo2007: sorry I can't help with that....
[09:04] <vishnu> how to get the optmal ethernet card driver
[09:04] <Jon--> phlak_user: I can do that without errors
[09:04] <leo2007> Blue1: no problem.
[09:04] <Jon--> phlak_user: Not that of course, but /dev/sda2 ;)
[09:04] <phlak_user> Jon--: the partition gets mounted?
[09:05] <Jon--> phlak_user: You sure it's sda2?
[09:05] <vishnu> i am not using any ethernet card i am using the onboard ethernet port
[09:05] <Jon--> phlak_user: Hold on a tick
[09:05] <Blue1> phlak_user: sudo blkid might help
[09:05] <phlak_user> Jon--: I am not; your fstab is sure
[09:05] <phlak_user> Blue1: the OP is Jon-- pl address him
[09:05] <Jon--> phlak_user: Odd. It's sda1 in blkid
[09:06] <Blue1> phlak_user: that went off my screen sorry
[09:06] <vishnu> Blue1: pls help
[09:06]  * hd1 still wants archon for his ubuntu box
[09:06] <phlak_user> Jon--: there you go; so your fstab entry is incorrect
[09:06] <Jon--> phlak_user: FML.
[09:06] <Jon--> phlak_user: Thanks. :P
[09:06] <Blue1> phlak_user: do you know what chipset you are using?
[09:06] <drizzt_> hd1, is it in squeeze or sid?
[09:06] <tsg_> I've absolutely no idea what this could be
[09:06] <Anexroid> Hi! After install lamp on ubuntu 10.04 in PHP don't work include and require. Why? Help, please
[09:06] <phlak_user> Blue1: argh! why do you keep addressing me?
[09:06] <Blue1> err sorry
[09:07] <Blue1> vishnu: do you knowwhat chipset you are using?
[09:07] <Ademan> is there any way to make permanent, manual changes to /etc/resolv.conf ? like maybe I can drop stuff into /etc/resolv.conf.d/ or something? (not that I can tell, but I'm hoping)
[09:07] <Cpt_Zyph> whats with the alternate download torrents? were can i see whats different about these versions? do they inc different drivers or more support for diff hardware or something?
[09:07] <Vict> Hi, I tried the steps listed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but I am still unable to recover Ubuntu. I tried Auto Super GrubDisk utility too but to no avail
[09:07] <hd1> drizzt_: lenny
[09:07] <drizzt_> Cpt_Zyph, alternate download has text mode installer and no live mode
[09:07] <Ademan> Cpt_Zyph: the alternate downloads are non-live environments, and use ncurses (text) installers
[09:07] <vishnu> will it be in the motherboard manual
[09:07] <drizzt_> hd1, try to check at debian why it was abandoned
[09:08] <Ademan> it's more or less for installin on low memory machines
[09:08] <Cpt_Zyph> well thats what the normal download has been doing
[09:08] <tsg_> I think I'll reinstall from scratch.. takes about an hour. finding the problem will take longer I think ...
[09:08] <Anexroid> Can anybody help me?
[09:08] <Cpt_Zyph> sense the graphics card problems
[09:08] <Cpt_Zyph> humm
[09:08] <Cpt_Zyph> do they inclued anything different with them other then the installer?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> !lamp | Anexroid
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  not really
[09:08] <Blue1> vishnu: probably
[09:08] <soreau> Ademan: aside from doing 'cp /etc/your-resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf' at boot each time (automatically in rc.local), NetworkManager will always have it's hand there
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:   i use the alt-cd instgallers on problem machines.
[09:08] <Ademan> soreau: :-/
[09:09] <vishnu> i am using a Asus m2A-mx motherboard
[09:09] <bricky> hmm so I can delete templates and Public folder in /home/owner/ or will that screw me
[09:09] <Cpt_Zyph> but aside from the installer it self what is different with them.. as the normal cd installer ist txtd based well not very gui based that is
[09:09] <drizzt_> Cpt_Zyph, it's for systems which have graphic problems or have not enough memory for livecd install
[09:09] <TVC> is it safe to do a manual shutdown by holding the power button if DOSBox has taken full control of your mouse and Keyboard and you cant detach them
[09:09] <TVC> ?
[09:10] <soreau> Ademan: I chmod -x NetworkManager then use my own scripts to connect so I don't have annoying passwords to enter and have to constantly check resolv.conf to see if network mgr got a hold of it
[09:10] <hd1> how tough is it to install jaunty packages on lucid?
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  the normal desktop cd instgaller is Not text based.. You may be getting your cd's confuised
[09:10] <Blue1> vishnu: an lspci will give you the info look for "ethernet controller" and just copy the line
[09:10] <Ademan> soreau: haha
[09:10] <Cpt_Zyph> well its not very gui based
[09:10] <Blue1> vishnu: something like this:  01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  the normal cd installer runs in X. t the alt-installer runs on teh console
[09:10] <soreau> Ademan: I am not laughing.
[09:10] <Cpt_Zyph> and its the normal torrent
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  your definition of 'not very gui based' is a bit vague
[09:10] <Cpt_Zyph> its just blue and red txt
[09:10] <TVC> oh btw, do i need to verify anything if i manually held the power button in and it shutdown without doing the shutdown procedure?
[09:11] <TVC> is it safe
[09:11] <TVC> ?
[09:11] <vishnu> Blue1: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0)
[09:11] <Ademan> soreau: I know, it's sad that NetworkManager is such a bad citizen of people's computers
[09:11] <prince_jammys> soreau: why don't you disable the service?
[09:11] <Blue1> vishnu: I've had problems with atheros cards
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  it  runs on the full X desktop.. its a normal X app..  so somting is confuseing about your statement...
[09:11] <Jordan_U> soreau: Why not just uninstall network-manager?
[09:11] <prince_jammys> or disable it
[09:11] <Blue1> vishnu: you are using ubuntu 10.04?
[09:11] <soreau> prince_jammys: Jordan_U: I probably should but I don't.
[09:11] <vishnu> yes
[09:12] <Blue1> vishnu: hmm I had the problem in 9.10 and had to backport but it got fixed in 10.04
[09:12] <vishnu> Blue1: yes
[09:12] <soreau> prince_jammys: Jordan_U: I find -x much easier to remember than how to disable service on $DISTRO and if I don't have the net, I cant reinstall the package, so..
[09:13] <vishnu> Blue1: what should i do now ??
[09:13] <Ademan> that's wierd, I just noticed i have an /etc/passwd- how did that happen? or is that actually a system file?
[09:13] <Blue1> vishnu: thinking...
[09:13] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis well gui based i think of something like windows xp.. this is just menu based.. can only use keyboard to slect options .. up and down and tabe and enter is that gui based still?
[09:13] <prince_jammys> soreau: ''sudo update-rc.d -f network-manager remove''  , and start it when you want.
[09:13] <hd1> hmph...
[09:13] <soreau> prince_jammys: -x is *way* easier
[09:13] <prince_jammys> sure
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  the desktop/installer is this one --> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[09:14] <soreau> So I use easy methods, not always The Right One
[09:14] <Ademan> the only difference between the two /etc/ files is a line regarding the usbmux user
[09:14] <ovy> if i have ubuntu ultimate edition is it good to instal unity?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  the 'alternative' cd instgaller looks like those old 'dos' apps that used  the ansi characters to draw windows and stuff  I cant find a screne shot of them
[09:14] <vishnu> Blue1: waiting
[09:14] <soreau> Jordan_U: I also edit files that are commented with DONT EDIT ME!!!
[09:14] <soreau> so what
[09:14] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis this for i.e. is what i think of as gui based http://opentechblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/installer_first.png
[09:15] <Ademan> Cpt_Zyph: http://s.linux-mag.com/i/articles/7568/ubuntu-encryption-installer-alternate-small.jpg
[09:16] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis this is the style how ever my entire install is like http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lh7jyvHkwS4/SwbsoNMJlZI/AAAAAAAAAkI/-Bt_07SROZ4/s1600/ubuntu10.04pre-alpha02.gif
[09:16] <soreau> prince_jammys: Jordan_U: After I'm done with my ubuntu installation setup, it's nearly unrecognizable. I also use arch and gentoo on machines I actually have time to futz with
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  that is the Desktop installer.. Not the 'alternative cd' installer.. its the same as the url i posted earlier.
[09:16] <Cpt_Zyph> Ademan yes thats how it looks for me
[09:16] <ovy> anyone.. if i have ubuntu ultimate edition is it good to instal unity?
[09:16] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis thats what i'm trying to say thats what my normal desktop installer looks like
[09:16] <soreau> prince_jammys: Jordan_U: That's why not.
[09:16] <Cpt_Zyph> i'll link the download i got to result in this style of instlal
[09:16] <Ademan> Cpt_Zyph: compare md5sums
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  now you know the differance then. :)
[09:17] <Cpt_Zyph> ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[09:17] <Jon--> soreau: That was a grub.cfg reference right? :P
[09:17] <Jordan_U> soreau: I do my fare share of unsupported hacks, confident in the fact that if it breaks I get to keep both pieces :)
[09:17] <Ademan> Cpt_Zyph: do you mind checking its md5sum?
[09:17] <soreau> Jon--: Does it matter?
[09:17] <Jon--> soreau: Curious.
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[09:17] <soreau> Jordan_U: Debian guarantee
[09:17] <Blue1> vishnu: this isn't much help -- http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/age.4freebsd.html
[09:18] <soreau> "If it breaks, you get to keep the pieces"
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> brb - testing my 'removing plymouth'  test.. :)
[09:18] <Jon--> vishnu: What speed are you getting, what speed do you get from an alternative os on that card, and what are you downloading to test the speed? It may be your current driver is not an issue, just confirming.
[09:18] <Blue1> vishnu: sorry I am brain dead atm - best I can do.
[09:19] <soreau> Jon--: It's not relevant. I was just saying I do a lot of things The Wrong Way and never look back. 'Break it until it works' moto
[09:19] <Jon--> soreau: I hate breaking OSs. It's my #1 pet peeve of ubuntu, breaks too easily
[09:19] <ovy> hi, is it safe to install UNITY desktop env in ubuntu UE?
[09:19] <Cpt_Zyph> trying to find the iso file one sec
[09:20] <soreau> Jon--: I usually keep from breaking the package manager too horribly ;)
[09:20] <rww> ovy: UE being...?
[09:20] <ovy> Ultimate Edition
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> it takes me longer to get reconnected to IRC then it does to boot the system :) gotta love that
[09:20] <Jon--> There's an ultimate edition?
[09:20] <rww> ovy: We don't support Ultimite Edition. Try asking them on their forums.
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  its not worth bothering with.
[09:20] <ovy> ah, k
[09:21] <Cpt_Zyph> well it apears i did download the wrong iso.. how ever that brings to question
[09:21] <soreau> Dr_Willis: You need to forward port 113 if using port 7000 for freenode
[09:21] <Cpt_Zyph> if the alternate is best for trouble systems and its still not working.. then what do i do?
[09:21] <soreau> Dr_Willis: Speeds up your channel connect times like lightning
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  Hmm.. whats 113 for?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure what port im even using
[09:21] <soreau> Dr_Willis: Something to do with ident service
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Im using port 6667 it seems
[09:22] <Jon--> Cpt_Zyph: Compile from source. ;)
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> I dont have an ident server running on this box anyway
[09:22] <soreau> Dr_Willis: Forward port 113 to your irc box, udp/tcp both
[09:22] <alex87> i'm loving 10.04, but could someone tell me how to fix the new behaviour of the notification area? left clicks are now right clicks, and its very annoying
[09:22] <Cpt_Zyph> Jon thats prob over my head at this point.. unless you have a good guide or something ican try it out with..
[09:23] <Cpt_Zyph> i can try downloading the correct version and burning that or something
[09:23] <Jon--> Cpt_Zyph: No, sorry bud. Wink => I was kidding..
[09:23] <Cpt_Zyph> Jon *)
[09:23] <Jon--> Cpt_Zyph: What have you tried already?
[09:23] <soreau> alex87: Fix? It's not broken if you're the only one it bugs ;)
[09:23] <alex87> soreau, haha. well any ideas to break it?
[09:23] <Ademan> can anyone tell me if they (in a default lucid install) have usplash installed?
[09:23] <soreau> alex87: Hmm, good question..
[09:23] <Cpt_Zyph> well at this point if the alt installer is for troubled systems and i'm still not able to get graphics to work.. maybe i'll just wait for a newer version that has better support for my video card and use fedora untll then 8/
[09:23] <soreau> alex87: Did it work like you expect in previous version of ubuntu?
[09:23] <quizme> hi, what does "/.../" mean ?
[09:24] <phlak_user> !controls | alex87
[09:24] <alex87> soreau, yep, it works as expected in everything but the latest ubuntu from what i've seen. gconf doesn't give any clues though
[09:24] <quizme> what does it mean when you have three dots ?     /.../clojure/1.2.0-master-SNAPSHOT.jar
[09:24] <varun> k
[09:25] <quizme> is that just metaphorical?
[09:25] <Ademan> quizme: probably just "wherever"
[09:25] <quizme> oh
[09:25] <Ademan> quizme: yeah I think so
[09:25] <varun> no its not
[09:25] <soreau> alex87: I guess the first thing to figure out is if it's upstream gnome or ubuntu patches responsible. Then you can use whatever reverted version
[09:25] <quizme> Ademan ok thanks
[09:25] <Jon--> Cpt_Zyph: Besides installing Ubnutu-server and adding packages
[09:25] <Jon--> Cpt_Zyph: I don't know what to tell ya
[09:25] <phlak_user> alex87: its a pretty simple fix; did you see my link?
[09:25] <Ademan> quizme: no problem, you might try getting a second opinion, but I think it's "unspecified" or like you said metaphorical
[09:25] <ijse> hello everyone~
[09:26] <Ademan> is anyone willing to check if they (on lucid) have usplash installed?
[09:26] <alex87> phlak_user, i think that's a different issue (that i have already changed). my issue is with things like rhythmbox not popping up when i click them in the notification area
[09:26] <Ademan> dpkg-query -l usplash # for the exceptionally lazy (but I still appreciate it!)
[09:26] <[diablo]> good morning #ubuntu+1
[09:26] <ovy> Unity will be the desktop environment for Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition, released in October 2010, and is available today to developers building applications for the netbook environment.
[09:26] <Jon--> Ademan: exceptionally lazy, I do.
[09:27] <ovy> that's what it says on cannonical
[09:27] <[diablo]> erm #ubuntu even :-) ... sorry fat fingers with tab key
[09:27] <ovy> that means it's not working yet
[09:27] <phlak_user> alex87: are you on netbook edition?
[09:27] <Ademan> Jon--: thanks
[09:27] <alex87> phlak_user, nope, full desktop
[09:27] <soreau> Ademan: It's not installed by default, if that's what you're asking
[09:27] <[diablo]> guys is anyone got libvirt installed please?
[09:27] <Jon--> Ademan: Scratch that
[09:27] <Ademan> soreau: indeed
[09:27] <Jon--> Ademan: Misread entry, I don't
[09:28] <Ademan> Jon--: haha alright, thanks
[09:28] <phlak_user> alex87: dont any of the icons in the notification area work when you left-click on them like calendar/volume ctl etc
[09:28] <prestige> hi
[09:28] <phlak_user> !hi| prestige
[09:28] <Jon--> Quick question: What is a sexy GRUB skin/UI modification I could use? Easy, not worth my time?
[09:28] <soreau> [diablo]: For what purpose does this serve? I do not see any such package in the repos
[09:29] <prestige> pls help me for avermedia dvb-s trinyt a707  for
[09:29] <[diablo]> soreau, I need to know the default rc start and kill numbers
[09:29] <[diablo]> soreau, and libvirt is in the default repos
[09:29] <bricky> is there anything that untars tar.gz files without cmd line
[09:29] <soreau> [diablo]: Default rc numbers?
[09:29] <Cpt_Zyph> well have a good night i'll try some more later here.. thank you guys for your help i'll have to do some more homework on this issue
[09:30] <Jon--> bricky: Why do you need no command line?
[09:30] <[diablo]> soreau, yep I want to know when it should be started and stopped ...
[09:30] <Ademan> bricky: the archive manager should be able to handle them just fine
[09:30] <[diablo]> soreau, find /etc/rc* -iname "*libvirt*"
[09:30] <prince_jammys> bricky: 'fileroller', which i think comes with gnome.
[09:30] <phlak_user> Jon--: I use images in /usr/share/images/grub/*.tga in my grub.cfg
[09:30] <soreau> [diablo]: fine.
[09:31] <bricky> Jon-- / Ademan / prince_jammys: thanks
[09:31] <bricky> :)
[09:31] <[diablo]> soreau, do you have it installed please? and also the qemu-kvm one ;-)
[09:31] <Jon--> phlak_user: bash: cd: /usr/share/images/grub: No such file or directory  :P
[09:31] <Ademan> phlak_user: haven't seen a tga in a while :-p
[09:32] <blekos> hello, does anybody know if gdesklets contribute to battery drain?
[09:32] <Jon--> Gonna ask again, pimp my GRUB, any easy way to do it?
[09:32] <prestige> pls help me for avermedia dvb-s trinyt a707  for
[09:33] <Ademan> blekos: everything contributes to battery drain, the less you run, the more battery you save
[09:33] <ee> hi, i've got a problem: I'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS and i removed from the panel an icon where i could chose to turn off computer or hibernate it -> i cannot find it in "Add to panel" menu... how can i bring it back? Help me please.
[09:33] <soreau> [diablo]: Look, I installed libvirt0 and ran find /etc/rc* -iname "*libvirt*" but it returns nothing.
[09:33] <Jon--> blekos: Everything does. Battery drains most from CPU usage, processes use your CPU.
[09:33] <phlak_user> Jon--: follow this link --> http://linuxers.org/howto/how-change-grub2-splash-images
[09:33] <blekos> i c
[09:33] <[diablo]> soreau, ok, I guess you do not have virsh installed
[09:33] <Jon--> phlak_user: I dunno. Looks like a virus to me.  ;)   Thanks
[09:33] <[diablo]> soreau, or at least libvirt-bin package
[09:34] <Jon--> phlak_user: Is this my sexiest option? I do like sexy things.
[09:34] <phlak_user> Jon--: actually it asks you to install the grub2-splashimages package
[09:34] <Wamphyri> how would i go about doing a fsck on a ext3 partion properly?
[09:34] <JonathanEllis> I am running the open source version of Quanta 3.5.10 on Hardy Heron under Gnome. In Quanta under |Help|About KDE it says it is using KDE 3.5.10 . The problem I have is that when Quanta loads a project or I rename a project file (html or css) a dialog box warns that cvsservicerc is not writable. I searched for "cvsservice" in the package manager and found that libcvsservice0 is installed. The only other packages available are cvsservice-kde4 and lib
[09:34] <[diablo]> soreau, I will look at the .deb file to see what its scripts configure them as
[09:34] <Jon--> phlak_user: I was kidding man, the link looks nothing like a virus =P
[09:34] <soreau> [diablo]: Why can't you do it yourself? See packages.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <pa> hi
[09:35] <delor> does anybody have idea why mediawiki converts latex math equation to png file with application/postscript mime?
[09:35] <Magnetix> hello!
[09:35] <pa> anybody uses irda on lucid?
[09:35] <ee> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS and i removed (from the panel) an icon where i could choose to turn off computer or hibernate it -> i cannot find it in "Add to panel" menu... how can i bring it back? Help me please.
[09:35] <prestige> pls help me for avermedia dvb-s trinyt a707  for
[09:35] <[diablo]> soreau, what happened was I found a bug in libvirt (ubuntu specific), and removed, reinstalled it etc, and my S and K´s are now inconrrect
[09:35] <soreau> [diablo]: So reinstall the packages?
[09:35] <[diablo]> soreau, yep, I did
[09:36] <ee> anybody?
[09:36] <soreau> [diablo]: Why do you think they're wrong?
[09:36] <[diablo]> soreau, but it is not correcting the rc scripts
[09:36] <soreau> [diablo]: So delete the rc scripts and reinstall the packages
[09:36] <[diablo]> soreau, :-) relax
[09:37] <Wamphyri> how would i go about doing a fsck on a ext3 partion properly?
[09:37] <soreau> [diablo]: You're not making any sense though
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Wamphyri:  you could boot a live cd and fsck them by hand/
[09:37] <soreau> Wamphyri: Make sure it's not mounted, then run fsck /dev/<node>
[09:37] <prestige> pls help me for avermedia dvb-s trinyt a707  for
[09:37] <prestige> pls help me for avermedia dvb-s trinyt a707  for
[09:37] <Suit_Of_Sables> I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and osx on my macbook. grub failed to install while installing lucid from the live cd. Can grub-efi boot both systems? and if so, how would I install it?
[09:38] <prestige> pls help me for avermedia dvb-s trinyt a707  for ubuntu 10.4
[09:38] <Wamphyri> soreau how would i unmount it without borking myself outta the system
[09:38] <prestige> not work
[09:38] <Wamphyri> this machine is remote and i can't just walk upto it and kit the reset button lol
[09:38] <[diablo]> soreau, OK I will explain... while trying to track down a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/591489 I uninstalled and reinstalled various times libvirt
[09:38] <soreau> Wamphyri: Like Dr_Willis said, you can do it from a live cd if it doesn't prompt you to do it at boot time
[09:38] <[diablo]> soreau, now I notice my rc scripts start at 20
[09:38] <ubuntu_> hm does anzone knows how do i join some costum freenode irc channel in xchat
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_:  /join #channelname
[09:38] <Wamphyri> soreau: this machine is remote, different country remote
[09:39] <[diablo]> soreau, and the daemon is not starting... so I assume 20 is way to low
[09:39] <soreau> [diablo]: That sucks man, sorry for ya
[09:39] <[diablo]> soreau, so for some reason, reinstalling does not correct the start and kill
[09:39] <soreau> Wamphyri: Ah, then you need to contact the system administrator or someone that can perform these tasks
[09:39] <[diablo]> soreau, correctly
[09:40] <soreau> [diablo]: I don't know what you mean by start and kill
[09:40] <[diablo]> soreau, dude, when the service is started at boot, and stopped at shutdown
[09:40] <ubuntu_> can anzone help me
[09:40] <ubuntu_> anyone*
[09:40] <soreau> [diablo]: Yea, so what numbers?
[09:40] <Wamphyri> soreau: thanks, great way to teach somone to do somthing themselfs..
[09:40] <[diablo]> soreau, as I said, currently I have S20
[09:40] <[diablo]> soreau, and K20
[09:41] <soreau> Wamphyri: You can't really unmount your root filesystem while it's running to run fsck on it
[09:41] <[diablo]> soreau, I want to know what they originally where set to on a clean install
[09:41] <soreau> [diablo]: wth is S20 and K20?
[09:41] <Wamphyri> soreau: then why would you suggest it?
[09:41] <soreau> [diablo]: So make them S99 or so
[09:41] <soreau> Wamphyri: I already gave you a suggestion
[09:41] <[diablo]> soreau, yeah, thats all good and well, but I want to know *what* the clean installed packages set them to
[09:41] <soreau> Wamphyri: Either that or fly to the server yourself and do it
[09:42] <Wamphyri> soreau lol, what do you know of quota?
[09:42] <[diablo]> soreau, if you want to do me a favor, apt-get install libvirt-bin please :-)
[09:42] <soreau> [diablo]: Did you check packages.ubuntu.com?
[09:42] <soreau> [diablo]: I will do you one better and show you how to look up package files
[09:42] <[diablo]> soreau, just looking now
[09:42] <soreau> Wamphyri: Nothing.
[09:43] <[diablo]> soreau, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libvirt-bin
[09:43] <Jon--> If I want to use gfxboot, do I have to uninstall GRUB?
[09:43] <soreau> [diablo]: See at the bottom, where it says 'list of files'
[09:43] <[diablo]> soreau, but as I say, I need to see the scripts section of the package
[09:43] <Wamphyri> soreau: honest answer, thank you
[09:44] <Wamphyri> anyone wanna pick there knowledge banks for this error quotacheck: Scanning /dev/sda1 [/] quotacheck: Something weird happened while scanning. Er2133571361
[09:44] <[diablo]> nod
[09:44] <JonathanEllis> Quanta is complaining that ~/.kde/share/config/cvsservicerc is not writable. The permissions of the file are Owner: root, Access: Read and write. Group: root, Access: None. Others, Access: None. How should I change the permissions so that quanta can write to it?
[09:44] <[diablo]> nod @ soreau
[09:44] <[diablo]> soreau, but I am pretty sure the installation scripts within the package will handle this
[09:44] <blekos> hi, i try to install hava jdk I do sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jdk and get the folloing msg No candidate version found for sun-java6-jdk
[09:44] <blekos> what does it mean?
[09:45] <Jordan_U> !java | blekos
[09:45] <rww> blekos: sun-java6 was moved to the partner repository, which you can enable in Software Sources
[09:45] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: sudo chmod 750 ~/.kde/share/blahblahblah
[09:45] <blekos> aaa thnx
[09:46] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: oh, and change the owner
[09:46] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: sudo chown youruser:youruser  ~/.kde/thefile
[09:46] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: Thanks.
[09:47] <prince_jammys> welcome. maybe you ran Quanta as root or such.
[09:47] <ylmfos> oop
[09:47] <soreau> [diablo]: Look, I installed libvirt-bin and ran find /etc/rc* -iname "*libvirt*" but it returns nothing.
[09:47] <[diablo]> soreau, mmm thats odd
[09:47] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: No I didnt run it as root but it is a kde application and I am running gnome so I guess something wasnt setup properly when I installed it
[09:48] <[diablo]> soreau, it should be running a daemon
[09:48] <soreau> [diablo]: It's not odd at all. libvirt-bin installs nothing to /etc/rc*
[09:48] <[diablo]> soreau, so how is it meant to be started on boot and stopped on shutdown
[09:49] <Magnetix> hello!
[09:49] <blekos> has anyone managed to have % on battery icon for their laptop?
[09:49] <soreau> [diablo]: Not sure, I'm not trying to run it
[09:49] <[diablo]> soreau, what I am saying is it should be running
[09:50] <soreau> [diablo]: Well it isn't, apparently
[09:50] <[diablo]> soreau, exactly :-)
[09:50] <[diablo]> soreau, that confirms my thoughts .... thanks dude
[09:50] <soreau> [diablo]: good luck with all of that
[09:51] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: judging from what you said, it probably doesn't need to be executable, though it probably doesn't matter. if that bugs you, ''chmod -x thefile''
[09:51] <[diablo]> soreau, cheers
[09:51] <Magnetix> ello!
[09:51] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: There are a bunch of other files with locked permissions in that directory. Should I change them all?
[09:51] <soreau> ! hi | Magnetix
[09:51] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: change only the owner
[09:51] <JonathanEllis> Thanks
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> blekos:  theres some unofficial ppa's out with a newer/alternative Battery panel widgit. and theres other 'widgits' you could put on the desktop that could show it.
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> blekos:  i saw the new battery/power applet at the webupd8.org web site
[09:52] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: sudo chown -R youruser:youruser ~/.kde/share/the_bad_directory
[09:53] <blekos> i'll have a look
[09:53] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: this should cause no harm. i doubt that those files should be owned by anyone other than your user.
[09:53] <[diablo]> soreau, dude, check this file /etc/init/libvirt-bin.conf
[09:53] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: I just did sudo chown myuser:myuser path/*
[09:53] <[diablo]> soreau, so it *should* be running
[09:53] <soreau> [diablo]: Doesn't exist, uninstalled the package
[09:53] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: that's OK.
[09:53] <[diablo]> LOL @ soreau
[09:53] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: Thanks again
[09:54] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: well, that doesn't descend into subdirectories, btw.
[09:54] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: if there are any, use -R
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Jon--: You can use any jpeg or png as a background image for grub, and if you set GRUB_GFXMODE=auto in /etc/default/grub then grub will use the highest possible VESA resolution.
[09:54] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: will do
[09:55] <soreau> [diablo]: Actually, it's /usr/sbin/libvirtd that does not exist
[09:55] <[diablo]> soreau, http://pastebin.ca/1886906
[09:55] <JonathanEllis> prince_jammys: And its fixed the problem. Thanks
[09:55] <prince_jammys> JonathanEllis: welcome
[09:56] <[diablo]> soreau, as you can see the upstart says the run levels to start stop on
[09:56] <[diablo]> soreau, thus it should be running as a daemon service
[09:57] <soreau> [diablo]: pastebin.ca does not load here
[09:57] <rapha> Help! After upgrade to grub2, doesn't boot anymore by itself. Have to enter root/linux/initrd/boot commands manually. "update-grub" doesn't make it work again. What is wrong?
[09:58] <soreau> [diablo]: might crash here in a bit
[09:58] <[diablo]> soreau, sorry?
[09:59] <[diablo]> soreau, ah, it´s an un godly hour in the US eh :-)
[09:59] <[jmad980]> rapha: can you reinstall grub instead of grub2
[10:00] <rapha> [jmad980]: i do not wish to...
[10:00] <[jmad980]> why not ;)
[10:00] <wgwinn> Is there anyway to get diagnostics out of a r8169 network card using jsut the stock files on a kubuntu 10.04 install disc ? ethtool doesnt seem to be installed , and of course, the NIC wont link, so ...
[10:00] <[jmad980]> any reason you need grub2
[10:02] <rapha> [jmad980]: well it ought to work. it does boot when i enter the commands manually at the grub command line. so why doesnt it load the menu and the menu entries by itself?
[10:03] <[jmad980]> hmm prolly a bug or something, I'd say see if you could change the menu.lst but iirc they changed it to where its pretty hard, and might be changed back in a update anyways
[10:04] <soreau> [diablo]: Nah, 3AM is a fine hour. I meant I was about to crash my irc server box :D
[10:04] <[diablo]> soreau, ah :-) ok dude.. enjoy the rest of your evening ... thank you for the help yeah, ciao
[10:05] <soreau> already crashed and came back up, lucid boots like lightning fast here
[10:05] <[jmad980]> hmm
[10:07] <Magnetix> hello!
[10:07] <Guest1099> hello
[10:09] <[jmad980]> rapha: you could try asking for help in #grub as I don't really think I can help you and noone else is coming out to help you aparently
[10:11] <Wamphyri> can somone help me with quota's?
[10:11] <Wamphyri> quotacheck: Scanning /dev/sda1 [/] quotacheck: Something weird happened while scanning. Er2133571361
[10:11] <rapha> [jmad980]: that was a good tip, thanks :-)
[10:12] <soreau> Random complaint: Minimize button is a 'down arrow' by default but I keep my window list and single panel on top
[10:12] <rulk> @find Hamdy Taha
[10:13] <xperia> hello to all ! how can i install in ubuntu the perl module "Net/IRC.pm" ?
[10:16] <drizzt_> xperia, try to put it into /usr/share/perl5
[10:16] <prince_jammys> !info libnet-irc-perl | xperia
[10:16] <drizzt_> /usr/lib/perl5 I mean
[10:16] <pokoko222> someone can help me with Microsoft Project question?
[10:17] <xperia> prince_jammys: woow thanks will try to install it with "apt-get install libnet-irc-perl"
[10:17] <prince_jammys> yes
[10:17] <prince_jammys> i thought that module was deprecated. maybe not
[10:18] <^DEMOSS^> hello
[10:18] <xperia> prince_jammys: woow you are great. problem solved ! thumbs up !
[10:18] <prince_jammys> xperia: cool.
[10:18] <^DEMOSS^> how i can share my folder for read\write for network ( smb ) - \\93.190.201.165
[10:18] <wgwinn> Using kubuntu 10.04 , realtek 8169 gigabit nic, it registers as 'link down' in dmesg; ifup -a as root gives no response. where can i get better information on what it is/isnt doing? windows was connected finewhen i rebooted run the installer, swapped cables with a known good device, no change
[10:18] <drizzt_> pokoko222, I believe it's not supported on Ubuntu
[10:19] <padi999> hi
[10:19] <Walex> wgwinn: 'sudo /sbin/ethtool eth0'
[10:20] <padi999> anyone know this comedy movie where it's about a corpse of a man during the whole movie and everyone believes, he's alive?
[10:20] <rww> !ot | padi999
[10:20] <airtonix> !ot
[10:20] <airtonix> >;
[10:20] <SlidingHorn> off topic...but it's weekend at bernies ;)
[10:20] <wgwinn> Walex: ethtool not installed. apt-get.. not very useful w/o net.
[10:20] <drizzt_> pokoko222, KOffice has similar module but I'm not sure about file format
[10:21] <echosystm> how do i get a newer kernel in ubuntu?
[10:21] <prince_jammys> typically, you wait.
[10:21] <drizzt_> echosystm, define 'newer
[10:21] <SlidingHorn> echosystm, seach synaptic for the term linux-headers
[10:21] <^DEMOSS^> how i can share my folder for read\write for network ( smb ) - \\93.190.201.165 ??
[10:21] <wgwinn> Walex: i did in fact grab the ethtool source via thumbdrive, didnt see a compiled version on ubuntu's site, but.. no compiler.
[10:22] <SlidingHorn> echosystm, find one in there that's a newer version than what shows up in uname -a
[10:22] <drizzt_> ^DEMOSS^, there are sample entries in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:23] <dupondje> I got a small question about file permissions. Got a dir with permissions 'drwxr-xr-x.' => Whats that last dot ?
[10:23] <ManDay> What do you think is the most light-weight linux distro which can be set to work against the Ubuntu repositories (for example I've heard puppylinux can work well together with ubuntu repos)
[10:23] <ManDay> dupondje, no idea
[10:24] <mgolisch> it doesnt even use .deb packages does it?
[10:24] <mgolisch> how is that suposed to work?
[10:24] <sysdoc> Can anyone point me in the right direction to create a USB boot so I can update a BIOS that is a .exe file?
[10:24] <xteejx> QUESTION: How do I find what file a certain package provides or is in?
[10:24] <ManDay> mgolisch, was that directed at me?=
[10:24] <^DEMOSS^> drizzt_: o_O access dined  - root console
[10:24] <mgolisch> moza: yeah
[10:24] <mgolisch> ups
[10:24] <ManDay> erm?
[10:25] <SlidingHorn> ManDay - Linux mint is ubuntu-based, but you can use just about any debian based distro with the ubuntu repos
[10:25] <prince_jammys> ManDay: you might have better luck at ##linux for something like this.
[10:25] <ManDay> okok
[10:25] <mgolisch> ManDay: yeah
[10:25] <ManDay> mgolisch im not sure I just heard that
[10:26] <mgolisch> xteejx: packages.ubuntu.com or use apt-file to search which package a file is in, to view a packages files you can use apt-file too or for installed packages dpkg -L packagename
[10:26] <ManDay> SlidingHorn, do you think that any deb based distro will work equally well the the repos?
[10:26] <xteejx> mgolisch: Great, thanks :)
[10:26] <drizzt_> dupondje, it means security context attached
[10:26] <SlidingHorn> ManDay -- no...they maintain their own repositories for a reason...but most packages should be compatible and work without issue
[10:26] <dupondje> drizzt_: and how can I check what context ?
[10:27] <prince_jammys> ManDay: you could do a ubuntu minimal install, and use only the packages you really need.
[10:27] <mgolisch> ManDay: whats your goal anyways? maybe if you tell us what your after we can work out something
[10:27] <ManDay> SlidingHorn, given how actively ubuntu is developed and updated I'd like to get a distro which is at least as up-to-date with what ubuntu is if not more (say, rolling release)
[10:27] <drizzt_> dupondje, -Z option
[10:28] <SlidingHorn> ManDay, check out distrowatch.com
[10:28] <mgolisch> ManDay: like prince_jammys suggested you could just make a minimal install and install some not so resource hungry window manager
[10:28] <Ek|mu5> ManDay, LFS
[10:28] <dupondje> system_u:object_r:fusefs_t hmz :P
[10:29] <prince_jammys> or no Xorg at all, if that's what you're after.
[10:29] <prince_jammys> !minimal
[10:29] <hotfloppy> My machine currently installed with Ubuntu 9.04.. all the folder (/usr, /home etc) is on /. But now I want to upgrade to 10.04 via Ubuntu CD but don't want to lose any data in /home, /usr.. especially /usr coz I dont want to reinstall all the stuff due to limited bandwidth usage.. How I do that ? If I just copy the /home & /usr folder elsewhere and put it back after finish installing 10.04, will that work ?
[10:29] <ManDay> prince_jammys, I've done that before and while in theory that sounds promising its hardly applicable - mostly because deps are a complete mess and a missing indicator applet may well make compiz stop functioning
[10:30] <ManDay> Ek|mu5 yeah that's as convenient as it can get...
[10:30] <drizzt_> hotfloppy, /home is preserved
[10:30] <drizzt_> hotfloppy, /usr not
[10:31] <ManDay> usually you will end up with an almost as bloated version of ubuntu as vanilla just to get everything working as it should
[10:31] <mgolisch> makes no sense anyways
[10:31] <mgolisch> your old stuff there mostlikely wont be compatible with the new packages anyways
[10:31] <hotfloppy> drizzt_: is that means i can just copy the /home ? but not /usr ?
[10:32] <drizzt_> hotfloppy, you'll have to copy /usr if you'll need anything there
[10:32] <mgolisch> hotfloppy: why would you want to copy your /usr? that makes no sense
[10:32] <drizzt_> mgolisch, to preserve installed software
[10:32] <hotfloppy> mgolisch: yeap.. as drizzt_ said..
[10:32] <hotfloppy> to preserve my installed application..
[10:33] <mgolisch> but that will be a mess
[10:33] <mgolisch> how do you know what to copy after instalaltion? you cant just replace everything
[10:33] <mgolisch> that will render your system unusable
[10:34] <hotfloppy> mgolisch: thats why i came here in the first place.
[10:34] <hotfloppy> mgolisch: so, if i copy the /usr and paste it in fresh installed 10.04. the system will be unstable ?
[10:35] <prince_jammys> yes
[10:35] <hotfloppy> is there any other ways to preserve my installed software ?
[10:35] <drizzt_> hotfloppy, you may just copy missing files and hope for the best
[10:35] <prince_jammys> make a list, and reinstall it
[10:35] <prince_jammys> !clone
[10:36] <drizzt_> hotfloppy, also, you'll need /etc folder for settings to /usr
[10:36] <mgolisch> and as i said, if thats installed software from packages the old stuff is ostlikely not compatible with the installed libraries from 10.4 anyways
[10:36] <deg12> Hotfloppy: how about an automatic upgrade to 10.04 via synoptic. No full reinstall .
[10:36] <mgolisch> it makes no sense at all
[10:36] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: thats what i want to avoid.. my bandwidth usage is limited..
[10:36] <prince_jammys> don't copy /usr from one ubuntu release to another, that's nuts.
[10:36] <drizzt_> he cannot reinstall because he has no Internet
[10:36] <mgolisch> still it doesnt work that way
[10:37] <mgolisch> that will mess up everything
[10:37] <prince_jammys> after that, he'll have no internet and no OS
[10:37] <mgolisch> :)
[10:37] <hotfloppy> so, the only way is to reinstall all those software ?
[10:37] <deg12> Will aptoncd work in this case?
[10:37] <drizzt_> extra files in /usr will not break his system
[10:37] <hotfloppy> damn.. :(
[10:37] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: that's mostly the point of upgrading
[10:38] <prince_jammys> new release will come with a bunch of new software, most of which will be hangin out in /usr
[10:38] <hotfloppy> deg12: i already have 10.04 cd, so i dont want (if i can) to waste my bandwidth usage by upgrading it via synaptic.. :)
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> even a new 10.04 install will have a few 100mb of updates.
[10:39] <drizzt_> prince, it's not a mac, on ubuntu you may merge directories when copying
[10:39] <hotfloppy> drizzt_: its look like you got another solution ?
[10:39] <deg12> Ic. Do you.know aptoncd? Will that work for Hotfloppy?
[10:39] <prince_jammys> drizzt_: the new ubuntu will have new libraries, etc. that may break his other software
[10:40] <zombieshubuntu> what is sh doing in zombie mode?
[10:40] <hotfloppy> deg12: heard bout aptoncd.. but its same like reinstall all those software via apt-get or synaptic..
[10:40] <prince_jammys> zombieshubuntu: nothing.
[10:40] <hotfloppy> deg12: still my bandwidth will get eaten up..
[10:40] <zombieshubuntu> prince_ so it's normal and not some hyjack shnit
[10:41] <prince_jammys> zombieshubuntu: it's undesirable, but nothing to panic about
[10:41] <prince_jammys> someone exec'd it and didn't wait()
[10:41] <zombieshubuntu> it wont kill =c
[10:41] <prince_jammys> zombieshubuntu: you can't kill zombies.
[10:41] <sylon> why does Totem not block xscreensaver when playing video?? only blocks gnome screensaver
[10:41] <zombieshubuntu> ahahaha
[10:41] <prince_jammys> they be already dead
[10:42] <zombieshubuntu> ^^
[10:42] <zombieshubuntu> i think i have a similar issue with a game
[10:42] <wizard_2010> can someone help with this error I can install via the terminal but not the software centre
[10:42] <wizard_2010> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[10:42] <drizzt_> sylon, may be there's a bug in totem?
[10:42] <zombieshubuntu> the game will window and screen will fade
[10:42] <sylon> yeah i hate this
[10:42] <sylon> drizzt_: well it looks like it only cares about gnome so may not be a bug
[10:43] <zombieshubuntu> hmm i'm about to try laying with no screensaver to test
[10:43] <zombieshubuntu> playing
[10:43] <deg12> Hotfloppy: no aptoncd puts all your apps on a cd or dvd and afterwards you use that cd or dvd as a repository. No download needed. I dont think it will work if you.use two different ubuntu versions.
[10:43] <zombieshubuntu> awfc
[10:43] <wizard_2010> can someone help with this error I can install via the terminal but not the software centre
[10:43] <wizard_2010> can someone help with this error I can install via the terminal but not the software centre
[10:44] <drizzt_> wizard_2010, it's not an error
[10:44] <wizard_2010> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[10:44] <SlidingHorn> hotfloppy, deg12: aptoncd or not, you're still going to have to download several updates...you have to with *any* newly installed OS.  That's life for you
[10:44] <wizard_2010> way wont it install the package then
[10:44] <wizard_2010> when I hit ok
[10:44] <SlidingHorn> !repeat|wizard_2010
[10:44] <wizard_2010> ok
[10:44] <armor-64> hi i have a problem with installin a sowtware on wine!can someone help me because when i install the software it always pop up a problem(see here)http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5144&iTestingId=36403
[10:45] <SlidingHorn> armor-64, you'll get more focused support in #wine
[10:45] <^DEMOSS^> how i can install ISP manager onmy ubuntu?
[10:45] <deg12> Slidinghorn: correct but it will be a minimale download.
[10:45] <SlidingHorn> armor-64, i apologize, i think it's #wine-hq
[10:46] <drizzt_> ^DEMOSS^, is it your home computer?
[10:46] <^DEMOSS^> yes
[10:46] <^DEMOSS^> but very fast)) core 7 \ raid 10
[10:46] <armor-64> slidinghorn, i have posted my problem but i see others have success running the program and i cant!
[10:46] <hotfloppy> SlidingHorn: agreed. every new release got at least 100+ mb updates.
[10:48] <SlidingHorn> armor-64 - well that's the best place for help with your problem...but in the meantime, what's the error..you have to be more detailed if you expect help
[10:49] <rww> SlidingHorn: #winehq
[10:49] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: you can't really just copy stuff, because APT will no longer have any idea of what's installed. plus, packages you install put files in places other than /usr. you'd make a mess.
[10:49] <armor-64> slidinghorn: i have posted in wine-hq i give you a link!
[10:49] <^DEMOSS^> drizzt_:  why are you ask me that?
[10:49] <armor-64> slidinghorn:http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5144&iTestingId=51720
[10:50] <armor-64> it'swith the name Karmiris Christian
[10:50] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: okay.. so there's no ways other than reinstall all those software.. :(
[10:50] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: and since apt is conceivably one of the best things about any debian-based distro, that would suck.
[10:50] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: only the stuff you installed later. much of it will be on the CD you already have.
[10:50] <drizzt_> ^DEMOSS^, to eliminate the possibility that you're screwing over some corporate machine
[10:51] <Nwb> Q: Would having a 4k Western Digital drive on my system interfere with installing ubutntu 10.04, even if not installing it on the 4k drive?
[10:51] <SlidingHorn> armor-64 - I sincerely hope that you didn't change the testing page to ask for help there...that's *definitely* not the way to do it
[10:52] <^DEMOSS^> drizzt_: ьн утпдшыр тще ыщ пщщв
[10:52] <^DEMOSS^> drizzt_: my english not so good
[10:52] <SlidingHorn> !ru|^DEMOSS^
[10:52] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: okay.. how about the /home ? can i just copy it elsewhere and put it back later ?
[10:52] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: yes, /home is ok.
[10:53] <armor-64> slidinghorn: w8 i explayne i wants to dlls wmvcore.dll and wmasf.dll. in system 32 but nothing happens
[10:53] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: you'd re-create the users in the new system, and could use the same home directories.
[10:53] <armor-64> slidinghorn: sorry it wants
[10:53] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: one other thing.. do i need to recreate the same username ?
[10:53] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: on a new install, yes.
[10:53] <SlidingHorn> armor-64, you need to post this in #winehq (without the dash...sorry for the wrong location before).  This is not Wine support
[10:54] <sm3agol> hey guys sorry about the dumb question.. i used macchanger command to change my mac address, but how do i change it back to the default?
[10:54] <armor-64> slidinghorn: ok i try thanks
[10:54] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: ah, you mean you want to change the name to something else? that will probably work for the most part.
[10:55] <Magnetix> hello!
[10:55] <SlidingHorn> !hi | magnetix
[10:55] <Nitro> How can you configure a USB Flashdrive into Ubuntu?
[10:55] <SlidingHorn> !usb | nitro
[10:56] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: nah, i'll stick with the current username.. just want to upgrade to 10.04 while preserving my /home.. thanks all.. :)
[10:57] <Nitro> No I ment how do you configure a USB Flash Drive into Ubuntu?
[10:57] <ubuntu_> .
[10:57] <horstl> Shrek
[10:57] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: you'll be fine. see the bot's message about 'clone' to save a list of your current packages, in case you want it.
[10:57] <SlidingHorn> Nitro: You mean how to mount it?  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FMount%2FUSB&ei=HeYdTKycFML6lwfdpen9DQ&usg=AFQjCNEzvPXDPfC2xrTcgzfKBvTFrQt2fQ&sig2=LzDcPm9UGDx12fGSmJGRuQ
[10:58] <SlidingHorn> Nitro, eek...ignore that link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[10:58] <Nitro> Ok
[10:58] <sm3agol> ok so i gave my wlan0 a different mac address and put it in monitored mode.. finished what i was doing and attempting to get it back to normal because i cant connect to networks this way, so how do i get back my mac address and bring it out of monitored mode anyone?
[10:59] <hotfloppy> !clone
[10:59] <minver> Hi, I try to install ubuntu 10.04 on my macbook, but when I insert the CD and run I see a text saying it's loading and then it's two icons, a man in a circle and a box with a 'H' in and then the screen is just black and nothing happens.
[11:00] <minver> Is is possible to install/try ubutnu on a macbook?
[11:00] <hotfloppy> !automate
[11:00] <sm3agol> normally using iwlist wlan0 scan i get networks but now im getting an error "not supported"
[11:00] <hotfloppy> !cloning
[11:00] <prince_jammys> hehe
[11:00] <SlidingHorn> sm3agol:  not sure -- would need to know how you changed it in the first place
[11:00] <hotfloppy> do i need to !automate again ? lol..
[11:00] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: the bot responds to private messages too. '' /msg ubottu clone '', for example.
[11:01] <hotfloppy> ic.. thanks prince_jammys
[11:01] <prince_jammys> welcome
[11:01] <hotfloppy> ubottu: come join me in private..
[11:01] <hotfloppy> :P
[11:01] <hackzb> oh,god.My english is poor.
[11:02] <SlidingHorn> hackzb, what is your first language?
[11:02] <hotfloppy> hackzb: where are you come from ?
[11:02] <hackzb> china oh
[11:02] <SlidingHorn> !chinese
[11:02] <sm3agol> changed it in the first place using: ifconfig wlan0 down, then: macchanger --mac <put mac here>, then airmon-ng startwlan0 to bring it back up... did some stuff and done now trying to get back to normal
[11:03] <hackzb> ok ,thanks.
[11:03] <hotfloppy> !malay
[11:03] <hotfloppy> !melayu
[11:04] <hotfloppy> hrm..
[11:04] <prince_jammys> !my
[11:05] <hotfloppy> thanks
[11:06] <deg12> Can i use hardy ot karig repository in lucid?
[11:06] <Nitro> How do you manually mount a USB Flashdrive?
[11:07] <deg12> Karmic that is
[11:07] <hackzb> there is no #ubuntu -cn .i'll go #unbuntu -tw. Bye everyone.
[11:07] <SlidingHorn> Nitro: already gave you the link that tells you how to do it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[11:09] <soreau> Nitro: After plugging in the drive, use dmesg|tail to see what /dev/<node> it is then run sudo mount /dev/<node> /mount/point
[11:09] <bricky> hey what is the hotkey to go into svideo?
[11:09] <Nitro> soreau: Wait what?
[11:10] <SlidingHorn> bricky, I don't think there is one by default...you would have to set one up in gconf-editor
[11:10] <soreau> Nitro: Better review the link SlidingHorn gave
[11:10] <abo-faisal> bbbbbbbbbb
[11:10] <bricky> SlidingHorn: you serious?
[11:10] <bricky> =P ok
[11:10] <soreau> bricky: What do you mean by go into svideo?
[11:11] <bricky> just switching over from my laptop to my tv
[11:11] <soreau> Did you check gnome-display-properties and xrandr?
[11:11] <removefromhere> hello, plug & play is not working for me on ubuntu 10.04, can anyone help me?
[11:12] <SlidingHorn> !anyone
[11:12] <minver> When I try to install "ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso" on my mac the meny doesn't have an option for testing/starting before intalling, why?
[11:12] <soreau> removefromhere: What makes you think its not working?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  on a laptop? They oiften have a special fn-key to enable it
[11:12] <bricky> display properties? I see 'multiple screens'
[11:12] <soreau> minver: You should be able to use esc when the cd first loads
[11:12] <bricky> Dr_Willis: Oh that's right lets see
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> minver:  the alternate cd - is not a 'live desktop' its an installer cd.
[11:12] <removefromhere> soreau, i plug my external hdd and ubuntu does not recognize them unless i have them plug from the begining
[11:12] <bricky> might have to lower the resolution just a tad
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> removefromhere:  ive noticed that also.. Untill i set it up the first time. Then my laptop rembereed the external :)
[11:13] <SlidingHorn> removefromhere, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[11:13] <minver> Dr_Willis: But when I tried to install using 'ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso' I couldn't see the menu at all
[11:13] <soreau> removefromhere: Why do you think it does not recognize it? Did you try mount -a?
[11:13] <deg12> hotfloppy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=712836
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> minver:  so?   theres some cases where the live cds dont like the video cards.  I use the alt-cd in such cases
[11:14] <abo-faisal> zzzzz
[11:14] <minver> soreau: use esc when I see the menu? Then I get prompt asking me to use the text-versio instead of graphical
[11:14] <abo-faisal> سلام
[11:14] <removefromhere> soreau, yes
[11:14] <soreau> minver: Sorry, you are using the alternate cd. That may not apply then
[11:14] <removefromhere> soreau, i try mount -a and lsusb
[11:15] <SlidingHorn> minver, alternate cd is install only.  not meant to be run live
[11:15] <ohir> !arabic| abo-faisal `
[11:15] <soreau> removefromhere: Can you manually mount it after seeing it in dmesg?
[11:15] <removefromhere> i don't know how to do it
[11:16] <removefromhere> soreau, i don't know how to read dmseg, i don't understand what it says
[11:16] <SlidingHorn> removefromhere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB  <~~that's how.
[11:16] <hotfloppy> deg12: thanks..
[11:16] <soreau> removefromhere: After plugging in the drive, use dmesg|tail to see what /dev/<node> it is then run sudo mount /dev/<node> /mount/point
[11:16] <Zorky> Hi all. I'm connect via SSH to my home PC. and I'm trying to copy dome files from there to my local hard drive, and I can't seem to do it while using wget or scp,  can someone give me an example?
[11:16] <minver> Dr_Willis: I see, is there a source somewhere where I can check which video cards that doesn't work?
[11:16] <badmox> hi i have some trouble with solr. i installed it with apt-get and checkt that the newest version of java is installed. but i receive always "Unable to access jarfile post.jar" when i execute "java -jar post.jar *.xml" as user or root
[11:16] <_raven_> hi
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> minver:  no idea. You said this was a mac? theres proberly a forum or 3 on mac and ubuntu ussage
[11:16] <minver> SlidingHorn: okey, do you know what the problem may be if the menu does show in the standard install cd. I use a macbook
[11:17] <minver> Dr_Willis: okay, thanks
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> !mac
[11:17] <_raven_> analogue hauppauge pci-TV-card - how to install/open? (need to record composite video)
[11:17] <SlidingHorn> minver: you haven't stated any problems with the standard CD....so you'd have to do that before I can try to explain what causes it ;)
[11:18] <wildbat> Zorky, scp remoteuser@remoteip:/path/to/file/ ~
[11:18] <bricky> hmm
[11:18] <danishman> are there any read/write filesystem in Linux ?
[11:18] <Walex> danishman: No :-).
[11:18] <SlidingHorn> danishman, could you please be more specific?
[11:18] <Zorky> Hi all. I'm connect via SSH to my home PC. and I'm trying to copy dome files from there to my local hard drive, and I can't seem to do it while using wget or scp,  what is the right syntax?
[11:18] <soreau> danishman: What do you mean exactly?
[11:19] <SlidingHorn> !patience|zorky
[11:19] <removefromhere> soreau, by /mout/point you meant something like /media/whatever
[11:19] <removefromhere> soreau, sorry, it was a question
[11:19] <soreau> removefromhere: Right. Replace <node> and /mount/point with the real values
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> Zorky:  use 'sshfs'  - and that makes a remote ssh connection mouint to a local directory. :) makes it easy
[11:19] <danishman> soreau >> in Windows NT, you can compress some directories or the entire harddisk
[11:20] <bricky> how do I really get programs to start up sorry but adding desktop shortcuts does not work ?
[11:20] <soreau> danishman: And you want to know if something like that is possible in linux?
[11:20] <minver> SlidingHorn: When I run the cd I see the text "Ubutnu, coprigth, Loading, initialize' stuff in a couple of seconds and then the screen goes black and nothing happens.. :s No error code
[11:21] <danishman> soreau >> yes, plese
[11:21] <removefromhere> soreau,  dmesg|tail says /dev/sdc1, but what should i write instead of /mount/point? (sorry, i kind of a noob)
[11:21] <soreau> danishman: I do not know but ##linux would probably be a good place to ask
[11:21] <Magnetix> hello!
[11:21] <soreau> removefromhere: Any empty directory. You can create one in /media is you like
[11:21] <_raven_> Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1100 - how to install/open? (need to record composite video)
[11:22] <removefromhere> soreau, ok, but if i put what i like it says that mouting point does not exists
[11:22] <removefromhere> exist*
[11:23] <computa_mike> Hi - I'm on 10.04 NBR, trying my hand at Ruby on rails.  Seems to break if (when following the tutorials) you issue a rake db:migrate.  Any one got a tutorial they managed to follow that works?
[11:23] <soreau> removefromhere: The directory has to exist. So you need to create it first
[11:23] <coz_> _raven_,  look here   http://www.linuxtv.org/   amaybe
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> danishman:  theres 'fuse' tools to have on the fly compression. but from what ive seen.. its proberly not going to gain you much
[11:24] <coz_> _raven_,  also here maybe   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=298094&highlight=wintv
[11:24] <wgwinn> in kubuntu 10.04 base install is there any easy way to monitor file trnaser speeds disk to disk ? no net access, cant install anything...
[11:25] <removefromhere> soreau, i've just created and now it says that the special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> wgwinn:  hard disk to hard disk?  Why do you need to monitor it?  I thought the copy dialiog box stated the speeds.
[11:25] <nazli_20> hi all!
[11:25] <coz_> _raven_,  also ..even though I hate to do this....google with this search string      ubuntu lucid hauppauge wintv hvr 1100
[11:25] <soreau> removefromhere: If you replugged the drive, the device node may have changed
[11:25] <removefromhere> no, its the same
[11:26] <soreau> does /dev/sdc1 exist?
[11:26] <removefromhere> soreau, it's the same
[11:26] <_raven_> coz_, ok tnx i'll try
[11:26] <wgwinn> Dr_Willis: .. not that i see. Mostly, it's 500gb of data and i wnat a better idea of how long it'll take. normally iostat would work, but it's not installed, so.
[11:26] <removefromhere> yes, dmesg|tail says it exists
[11:26] <soreau> removefromhere: do ls -l /dev/sdc1
[11:27] <nazli_20> on internet connection there are "DNS servers" option. so we can give two or more than two dns server adres. So if the first doesn not work, will it look for other dns adres ?
[11:27] <wizard_2010> hello all anyone got any torrent urls for transmission they like to share
[11:27] <removefromhere> soreau, it says it does not exist
[11:27] <soreau> removefromhere: Right, so replug it in and look at dmesg again
[11:28] <removefromhere> soreau: it says just the same
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> wgwinn:  not in kde at the moment. but i thought i saw the kde copy dialog/thing at the buttom right showed rates and times.. but i tend to use mc a lot these days.
[11:28] <soreau> removefromhere: and /dev/sdc doesnt exist at all?
[11:28] <removefromhere> soreau, [   30.202435] EXT3 FS on sdc1, internal journal
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  theres 1000's of torrent sites out there..  depends on what you want
[11:29] <wizard_2010> music and films
[11:29] <removefromhere> no, i mean, it does not appear in ls neither on lsusb
[11:29] <soreau> nazli_20: yes
[11:29] <wgwinn> Dr_Willis: It shows my 'current file' but theyre all 30-40gb .vdi's. not. precisely 'useful' . Not a big deal.. it'll be done when it's done.
[11:29] <wizard_2010> never used torrents before, I usually buy but times like this i need to support myself lol
[11:29] <removefromhere> soreau, i meant the device
[11:29] <wildbat> wizard_2010, i think that's !offtopic
[11:30] <Machina> Hey all, looking to know how to download files from a remote host using ssh. can some one give me an example?
[11:30] <nazli_20> soreau: ok. thansk!
[11:30] <soreau> removefromhere: if dmesg says its dev/sdc1 and dev/sdc* doesnt exist, you need to file a bug report
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  http://newteevee.com/2007/03/03/ten-sites-for-free-and-legal-torrents/
[11:30] <soreau> because that isnt supposed to happen
[11:30] <wizard_2010> thanks Dr_Willis
[11:31] <removefromhere> sorreau: is there another way to check if it exist that is not ls?
[11:31] <wildbat> Machina, scp remoteuser@remoteip:/path/to/file/ ~
[11:31] <wildbat> !sshfs | Machina
[11:32] <wildbat> !rsync | Machina
[11:32] <Machina> wildbat, reading now, thanks
[11:32] <kad__> heys anyone can help me with Wireless, i have sony vaio!! my wireless drive me crazy everytime i connect to my AP it give dissconnect and on dmesg give: disauthenticated!! on my other laptop it work fine with same password!! how to fix it
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> kad__:  determine the exact brand/make of the vaio and what wireless chipset it has for starters. that will be needed for indepth trouble shooting.
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> kad__:  and its very likely the forums have some others with the same make/issues and may have some fix's   'sony vaio' is very very broad. :)
[11:37] <aeon-ltd> kad__: do lspci in a terminal
[11:38] <kad__> Dr_Willis, 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100 and i try search alot in forums no result for me =(
[11:39] <rohitnikocool> hi! ubuntu
[11:40] <leagris> kad__, search for Ubuntu Intel 5100 Wireless. I found that here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Intel%20WiFi%20Link%205100
[11:40] <rohitnikocool> I lost my songbird player,what may be the reason.
[11:40] <aeon-ltd> rohitnikocool: what do you mean lost?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> rohitnikocool:  did you look under the desk?
[11:41] <rohitnikocool> songbird doent appear in sound and video menu
[11:41] <ubuntujenkins> how do i go about getting a factoid chnaged?
[11:41] <kad__> leagris, no driver in page nothing i click on wifi and same page
[11:41] <aeon-ltd> rohitnikocool: go to a terminal type songbird, see if it launches
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> rohitnikocool:  so it used to be there? but is no longer there?
[11:42] <wessel> hello, I wish to add a new printen, I went system > administration > printer, but "+add" is gray
[11:42] <leagris> Dr_Willis, find /under-the-desk -iname *songbird*
[11:42] <aeon-ltd> rohitnikocool: check in the gnome menu editor as well, it may have just been unchecked
[11:42]  * Dr_Willis hates to break out bad news --> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/songbird-linux-support-discontinued.html
[11:43] <wessel> I wish to add a printer in my network, should I make server > connect : local host, or server > connect : 10.0.0.16 ?
[11:43] <aeon-ltd> Dr_Willis: pwned
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> I havent used songbird in ages.
[11:43] <aeon-ltd> use mpd.
[11:44] <rohitnikocool> how is mpd
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  for my network printer. I use the  the cups web interface.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  http://localhost:631
[11:44] <aeon-ltd> rohitnikocool: mpd is good but its a hassle to set up, plus you need a front end like sonata
[11:44] <wessel> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:631.
[11:45] <rohitnikocool> so,should i go with sonbird again
[11:45] <rohitnikocool> oops songbird
[11:45] <aeon-ltd> rohitnikocool: but it will never update
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  thats.. weird.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  sounds almost like cups isent running/installed
[11:45] <rohitnikocool> anyother.
[11:46] <wessel> oh
[11:46] <fudanchii> rohitnikocool: try deadbeef ->http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net
[11:46] <aziyuu> hello there
[11:46] <wessel> I'll try sudu poweroff -h
[11:46] <rohitnikocool> how is deadbeef
[11:46] <wessel> my pc can't turn off again
[11:46] <wessel> maybe this is the problem
[11:46] <leagris> kad__, should be the kernel driver iwlwifi according to Intel linux driver development site http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/
[11:46] <aziyuu> what the equivalent of xming  on ubuntu ?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> aziyuu:  err.. that would be 'X' which is Xorg on ubuntu..
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> xming is  a 'X' server for windows. (last i checked)
[11:47] <fudanchii> rohitnikocool: it's kind of like fb2k for wndws
[11:47] <kad__> leagris, i found it but i didn't know how to install it i read the read me they say put it in /lib/firmware and i don't know how to instal it.
[11:48] <rohitnikocool> ok i will try it .
[11:48] <wessel> Dr_Willis, it works now :-/
[11:48] <AdminX> sudo shutdown -h now
[11:48] <aziyuu> so concontraly  what i have to do   ? Dr_Willis
[11:48] <wessel> I have the problem more often, when my computer runs for a while I need to sudo poweroff -h to get things normal again :-/
[11:49] <rohitnikocool> what may be the reason of missing songbird.
[11:49] <aziyuu> i use to use putty with xming to able to take control of an GUI
[11:49] <AdminX> wessel: sudo shutdown -h now
[11:49] <aziyuu> from linux server
[11:50] <leagris> kad__, unless you are running an older Ubuntu build. The iwlwifi driver is built-in the kernel for your card since kernel 2.6.24, (since Ubuntu 9.04)
[11:50] <aziyuu> from  ubuntu i don't know how to do by the same method ?
[11:50] <phrix> hey, I need some help configuring samba user... anyone can help...??
[11:51] <leagris> aziyuu, do you try getting remote X through an ssh session?
[11:51] <kad__> leagris, no my ubuntu is 10.0.4 64-bit
[11:51] <kad__> 10.04*
[11:51] <leagris> kad__, then the iwlwifi is here already
[11:51] <wessel> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/86881/selection_019_0QW0vi.jpg
[11:51] <aziyuu> correct leagris
[11:52] <leagris> kad__, does an lsmod | grep wifi show it loaded
[11:52] <wessel> this is how the alt + ctr + del screen looks when my pc does not want to power off normally
[11:52] <kad__> leagris, ya it's iwlagn
[11:52] <phrix> hey, I need some help configuring samba user... anyone can help...??
[11:52] <aleth> aziyuu: have you tried the ssh command (replaces windows putty)
[11:53] <aziyuu> yes now i m connected over ssh on my linux server
[11:53] <aziyuu> when i try to run gedit
[11:53] <aziyuu> i got this error
[11:53] <aziyuu> (gedit:7424): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:53] <kad__> leagris, everything is ok then why it's making like that? everytime i connect it try to connect then give Disconnect!!
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> aziyuu:  did you do a 'ssh -x' ?  xming also had a 'connection' wizard.. ?
[11:53] <leagris> aziyuu, you must put option -X like: ssh -X user@remotehost
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> aziyuu:  you dont 'take over' the remote display.  You ssh in, and run a applicaion that then appears locally.
[11:54] <leagris> aziyuu, this enable X forwarding on the client side.
[11:54] <tic^> !samba | phrix
[11:54] <rohitnikocool> how to install  deadbeef tar.bzr
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> rohitnikocool:  uncompress the archive. read its install docs.
[11:54] <aziyuu> i put ssh -X user@myserverip
[11:55] <aleth> rohitnikocool: better to not do that and instead use the ppa repository
[11:55] <aziyuu> not working correctly
[11:55] <aziyuu> i try also with  ssh -Y user@myserverip
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> aziyuu:  so you are sshing from the linux box TO the windows box? or where exactly?
[11:55] <rohitnikocool> how to use the ppa repository
[11:55] <iceroot> aziyuu: and what is not working with -X?
[11:55] <iceroot> aziyuu: and why need a gui on a server?
[11:56] <nokia3510> why am I getting Bus error on sudo aptitude update ?
[11:56] <nokia3510> the same happens on apt-get update
[11:56] <iceroot> nokia3510: exact error-mesage?
[11:56] <aleth> rohitnikocool: https://launchpad.net/~alexey-smirnov/+archive/deadbeef
[11:57] <leagris> kad__, the issue may be NetworkManager, I remember having this issue some times ago with an earlier version of ubuntu, but don't remember the reason. I ended up setting my wifi by hand int /etfc/network/interfaces and it took some time to parse all the documentation. There are other wifi connection managers than gnome NetworkManager though, you may have more lock with these
[11:57] <rohitnikocool> ya downloading
[11:57] <leagris> aziyuu, you should check your ssh server config to be sure it enables X forwarding
[11:58] <nokia3510> iceroot: after downloading the repos, apt-get returns "Bus errorackage lists... 0%"  <--- exactly as I typed
[11:58] <kad__> leagris, do u think it's from GUI?
[11:59] <K-rAd-> bs
[11:59] <nokia3510> iceroot: sudo aptitude update throws :Bus error:
[11:59] <leagris> kad__, I think so
[11:59] <aziyuu> where to check, what option have to check ?
[11:59] <aziyuu> leagris:
[12:02] <aziyuu> anyone ther e?
[12:02] <leagris> kad__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482273
[12:03] <aeon-ltd> aziyuu: no.
[12:03] <leagris> oups aziyuu
[12:03] <aziyuu> thanks :)
[12:04] <leagris> aziyuu, have a look at Nomachine NX client nxserver. This work though ssh and is much more responsive than plain ssh X forwarding
[12:06] <aziyuu> pok
[12:06] <aziyuu> ok
[12:08] <alloosh> hi, is it ok security wise if I add apache to my group?
[12:09] <mattl94> What do i use to reinstall the software center package ?
[12:10] <PeterT> I'm having a problem installing Lucid. When I load the CD on startup and tell it to install, it goes to the Ubuntu logo with the loading symbol. Then after 5 or so minutes, the loading stops and it hangs on that Ubuntu logo.
[12:10] <unam3> any one els having problems with networkmanager and pptp connections ?
[12:11] <tulimaq_> PeterT: have u checked cd for errors ?
[12:11] <Docteh> PeterT: whats the other option do?
[12:11] <leagris> alloosh, not a very good idea. If you need to use mod_userdir or put web content within your home directory, you should enable anonymous crossing your home dir tree (chmod o+X) and maybe change public_html to http_data group
[12:11] <PeterT> tulimaq_: not yet
[12:11] <PeterT> Docteh: what other option?
[12:11] <Docteh> "live desktop"
[12:12] <Docteh> the option above the one that goes direct to installer
[12:12] <Nwb> Q: anyone here that happens to have the "MSI P35 platinum" motherboard and linux installed?
[12:12] <PeterT> I'll try that, one second.
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Docteh:  it goes to a 'live desktop' where you can test drive the OS.
[12:13] <Docteh> alloosh: adding yourself to apache or www-data group is fine
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Live CDs - Dont leave home without a dozen in your PC-Toolbox.
[12:14] <Docteh> Dr_Willis: I suggested the first option as the second hung, might also hang but its more info
[12:14] <alloosh> Docteh: I am thinking about changing my public_html owner to apache, and then add myself to apach, does that make sense?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Docteh:  if both hang. it may be time to try the Alternative installer cd.
[12:15] <Docteh> Dr_Willis: PeterT is trying the first option right now
[12:15] <Docteh> so keep that suggestion handy ;)
[12:15] <Docteh> alloosh: just add public_html group to apache, you dont need to add yourself
[12:15] <florian_> hi there
[12:15] <Docteh> alloosh: well i guess it would help if you run stuff that makes files
[12:16] <minver> I read that I need rEFIt to install ubuntu on m macbook. The problem is that I can't access my macbook, cuz there is something wrong with the hard-drive so I want to Run the Live/Test boot of ubutnu so I can see if I can access the hard-dirve. Anyone here tried to run ubuntu live on a macbook?
[12:16] <alloosh> Docteh: this is why I am doing it, my php application need to create files and folders
[12:16] <leagris> alloosh, gives public_html the group http-data, add yourself to http-data group, put sgid bit on public_html so further file creation there will inherently belong to http-data group
[12:16] <acperkins> minver: do you have another computer with a firewire port available?
[12:17] <aleth> aziyuu: when you connect with ssh -X, what does "echo $DISPLAY" say?
[12:17] <Magnetix> hello!
[12:17] <mattl94> hi
[12:18] <Docteh> leagris: http-data? not www-data?
[12:18] <alloosh> leagris: well, curenly when I create dirs using mkdir("dir", 0777) from webserver it just wont work, as dirs are created with 0644
[12:18] <minver> acperkins: yeah I have another macbook, I guess you thinking of holding down the t button at startup and access it using firewire? I was thinking to do that if this doesn't work.
[12:18] <leagris> Docteh, was meant www-data
[12:18] <aziyuu> it return to nex line aleth
[12:18] <Docteh> alloosh: is the umask doing that?
[12:18] <florian_> What service at the startup of Ubuntu probes all modules?
[12:18] <acperkins> minver: yeah that was going to be my suggestion
[12:19] <Docteh> alloosh: is that a php function call?
[12:19] <aleth> aziyuu: that might be your problem, try "export DISPLAY=:0.0"
[12:19] <minver> acperkins: yeah I will try that, I hope it works even if the hard-drive seems to be damaged.
[12:19] <alloosh> Docteh: I am sure its umask(), this is all on my development machine, but I need to know how to do it exactly so I would advice my clients
[12:20] <florian_> Does anyone know the name of the service that is responsoble to modprobe all kind of modules at the startup?
[12:20] <leagris> aleth, aziyuu if DISPLAY variable is not set even with -X option it is the server side not forwarding
[12:20] <Docteh> yea the php docs have a note about the umask http://ca.php.net/mkdir
[12:20] <coz_> hey guys on karmic  I cant seem to get anything when running   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[12:20] <anurag89> can nyone tell me where i can get help about making a network sniffer
[12:21] <selofi> #ubuntu-es
[12:21] <anurag89> i i am having problems with the pcap library ...
[12:21] <selofi> como se accede al canal español?
[12:21] <less> anurag89: what's wrong with kismet (www.kismetwireless.org)?
[12:21] <IdleOne> !es | selofi
[12:21] <aziyuu> now if run gedit i got this error : export DISPLAY=:0.0
[12:21] <aziyuu> now if run gedit i got this error : (gedit:7478): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[12:22] <leagris> aziyuu, read up my las answer about ssh-server not exporting DISPLAY
[12:22] <anurag89> less: I have dids(distributed intrusion detection system )as my major project i want packet sniffer for that purpose
[12:22] <less> oic
[12:22] <Docteh> when you do ssh -X its like :8 or sometihng
[12:23] <aleth> leagris: thanks, thats just another symptom then. never had the problem myself
[12:23] <leagris> sorry guys has to AFK for a while
[12:23] <bricky> hello again, is it possible to have folder icons show the file types inside them?
[12:23] <Docteh> anurag89: this might be a lousy place to ask for help on libraries, but you could always run tcpdump and read from that into your app ;)
[12:24] <florian_> When a plug in an usb device, does udev then load the right module?
[12:24] <Docteh> bricky: that question needs a mention of what file browser you're using like nautilus, konqueror, the xfce one
[12:24] <bricky> Docteh: im sorry, im using nautilus
[12:24] <tulimaq_> anurag89: try  #backtrack-linux, im sure u get some help there
[12:24] <anurag89> Docteh: can you guide me about which channel would be appropriate for such a topic
[12:24] <anurag89> tulimaq_: ok thanks
[12:25] <bullgard4> !gnome-panel
[12:25] <Docteh> anurag89: see if theres a #pcap or #wireshark or try like ##linux dunno actually
[12:25] <aziyuu> that's correct
[12:25] <aziyuu> working now leagris
[12:25] <aziyuu> :)
[12:25] <aziyuu> thanks a lot
[12:27] <anurag89> Docteh: #wireshark exists thnx
[12:27] <wireshark> anurag89: ?
[12:28] <wireshark> i don't have the media plugin on chromium...what i have to do to install it?
[12:29] <Vict> Hi, while following steps listed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, I get grub error 15: File not found. How can I get Ubuntu back?
[12:30] <bricky> okay so how would I properly add programs to my startup, not quite the same as windows :)
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  you can set up a custome icon for each of your directories easially enough. I made a collection of various kinds of icons for my Dirs.
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !startup | bricky
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  system -> perferances -> startup applicatuions
[12:30] <bricky> Dr_Willis: ah yeah that would be great, is there any manager for icons file types in general that you know of?
[12:31] <sebrock_> wow amazing how much GRUB2 sucks
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  right click on a item , properties. click on the 'icon' in the box. and set the icon how you want.
[12:31] <bricky> Dr_Willis: Maybe it's just me, but I cant seem to get the idea of that startup manager, I dont know where my 'core' files are located
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> sebrock_:  i find it very handy.. but to each their own.
[12:31] <bricky> Dr_Willis: okay gotcha
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> bricky: if you use KDE you can put stuff in ~/.kde/autostart
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  what core files? just add a new item..  enter the command to run..
[12:31] <wireshark> hello Dr_Willis...how are ya?
[12:32] <bricky> Dr_Willis: oh okay
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> bricky: and for LXDE / XFCE you can put .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[12:32] <bricky> ActionParsnip: I have not tried KDE. yet
[12:32] <raven> KDENLIVE how to record AVI instead of mp4?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  if i wanted to add 'gnome-terminal' i just fill in the  name and command as being 'gnome-terminal'
[12:32] <PeterT> Docteh: doesn't work
[12:32] <PeterT> tulimaq_: it gave me the same loading window
[12:32] <bricky> Dr_Willis: okay, crystal clear now that you put it that way
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> bricky: I have no way of knowing your chosen DE, So I used all ;)
[12:33] <sebrock_> Dr_Willis, I dont see the point in moving to something that does not work as simple and easy as grub did
[12:33]  * Dr_Willis wonders if one can cheat and just rename video.mp4 to be video.avi
[12:33] <bricky> ActionParsnip: :D
[12:33] <bricky> Dr_Willis: I wonder that also
[12:33] <tulimaq_> PeterT: ok, what video card do u have ?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> sebrock_:  grub was aproaching a point where it was full of too many 'dirty hacks' and tricks to get it woring with problematic hardware. and was quickly aprioaching a dead end with future hardware.. thats the core of what i recall on the grub2 info on that question.
[12:33] <PeterT> tulimaq_: how do I check that?
[12:34] <raven> KDENLIVE how to record AVI instead of mp4?
[12:34] <PeterT> I think I have ATI Radeon
[12:34] <wireshark> has anyone installed the media plugin?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> sebrock_: All I can see is, its themable. And folks seem to like prettys over functionality *cough*compiz*cough*
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> wireshark: ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[12:34] <wireshark> ActionParsnip:  i installed them
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> raven:  try just renaming the file? avi is just a container.  you can have an avi that is a mp4 codec. unless you really want some codec OTHEr then mp4.
[12:34] <tulimaq_> PeterT: is it a laptop or custom made pc ?
[12:34] <PeterT> custom made PC
[12:34] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Implying compiz isnt functional? Many would beg to differ
[12:34] <PeterT> tulimaq_: ^
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> sebrock_: it also has some neat scripting stuffs which normal users wouldnt use afaics
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> soreau: its just pretty and lets you move windows around a bit between workspaces as far as I can see, considering the resources it gobbles like a fat kid at a free buffet I'd rather see it kicked to the curb
[12:36] <PeterT> tulimaq_: ATI Radeon HD 4350
[12:36] <tulimaq_> PeterT: hm then u shold know what did put there :D "ATI or Nvidia" ?
[12:37] <itheos> xD
[12:37] <itheos> hey
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> soreau: plus all the issues it generates like losing window decorators, strange flash behaviours etc
[12:37] <PeterT> tulimaq_: ?
[12:37] <raven> Dr_Willis, how to change the recording file in kdenlive? no option for that....
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> raven:  no idea. never used the tool. Theres other tools out that can convert video from one format to another.
[12:37] <tulimaq_> PeterT: aight, try booting without "splash quiet" kernel parameters, maybe some interesting output there
[12:37] <itheos> my sound suddenly stops after playing really well. and it comes back after i restart. what can be the problem? i use lucid lynx
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> raven:  perhaps check its help/docs/homepage
[12:38] <PeterT> tulimaq_: what? where do I disable that?
[12:38] <abuayyoub> Hi, anyone here use a program called NZBGET?
[12:38] <Taev> how do I log in as root in Ubuntu 10.4 ?
[12:38] <sebrock_> Dr_Willis, well I tried to install a fresh copy of the server edition... is it not supposed to update the MBR automatically?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  short answeer . you dont. use 'sudo and gksudo' as needed to do admin/root tasks
[12:39] <wgwinn> sebrock_: that is correct, per the patch notes. 'we will not replace active grub bootloaders'
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | Taev
[12:39] <Taev> thats crap, I could set the root user password in 8.04
[12:39] <shadyabhi> I am having a root login to a system. Can I know its root password???
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> sebrock_:  a Fresh Install should be using grub2 - Not sure about the server edition. id think its suppused to  use grub2 also.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> sebrock_:  a 'upgrade' will not upgrade to grub2
[12:39] <itheos> any help?
[12:39] <soreau> ActionParsnip: There are a multitude of sheer wm functional plugins. The candy plugins can be disabled and it only uses as many resources as the plugins you have enabled
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> shadyabhi:  could be anything.. if someone set a root password..
[12:40] <tulimaq_> PeterT: hold down shift when ubuntu logo appears there u should have option to change boot parameters
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> !root | shadyabhi
[12:40] <Taev> god talk about a nanny state when you cant even log in as root
[12:40] <Joshua_Roberts> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop.  Previously I had XP.  I would like to know how to use my Thunderbird settings from XP in Ubuntu.  I copied the files from xp before I reinstalled.  So how do I add them to thunderbird in ubuntu?
[12:40] <sebrock_> Dr_Willis, it is a fresh install. It installs Grub2 but I get the infamous Error 15. So I'm wondering of the MBR has been updated or if its just the grub files
[12:40] <Vict> Can someone please help me recovering Ubuntu. I get a message Error 15: File not found
[12:40] <PeterT> tulimaq_: at the options menu, or after I have clicked 'install ubuntu'?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  theres no need to. use sudo as needed.
[12:40] <soreau> ActionParsnip: So far as issues like no wm at startup, these are ubuntu specific issues since ubuntu patches compiz so much its not even the same we have upstream
[12:40] <sebrock_> seems Vict has the same thing...
[12:40] <Taev> you used to be able to set the root password via the user tools in 8.04
[12:40] <Taev> who ever asked..
[12:40] <IdleOne> Taev: sudo -i if you need extended root environment
[12:40] <tulimaq_> PeterT: yes at that menu
[12:40] <PeterT> ok thanks tulimaq_
[12:41] <shadyabhi> shadyabhi: No. I had user previlidge.. I used sendmail hack to get the root shell
[12:41] <Taev> still, its my damn system I should be able to login in as root if I want.
[12:41] <iceroot> Taev: then do it
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> shadyabhi:  so you broke into someone elses system?
[12:41] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Also, bad graphics drivers (like proprietary ones) can cause 3D programs like compiz seem to use more resources
[12:41] <iceroot> Taev: you can do with your system what you want but in this channel, a root account is not supported
[12:42] <Nwb> Q: Trying to install ubuntu 10.04 leads to a blinking cursor on a black screen, what might be wrong? Only once did I manage to get to see a menu, then it all froze. Its a newer computer system, 8GB ram, radeon 5850 card.
[12:42] <wgwinn> I get the whole 'security' thing of sudo .. but it's still annoying when command --help give 'You must be toor! and exits. :(
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> You could dd the root drive also.. but i dont suggest that either. :)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> soreau: the drivers are  also in the repo so testing could be easily done and issues avoided
[12:42] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Compiz is very functional if you learn how to actually use it
[12:42] <shadyabhi> Dr_Willis: kind of?? I had normal user access.. Used sendmail hack to get the root access.. now I want the root password.. I dont wanna change the pass
[12:42] <raven> special chan for VLC?
[12:42] <iceroot> shadyabhi: you cant read the password of an account
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> shadyabhi:  you can not 'determine' the set password for an account. You can only change it..
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> soreau: maybe, I find openbox much more appealing but I have yet to see functional uses for compiz short of moving a window to another workspace easily
 soreau: the drivers are  also in the repo so testing could be easily done and issues avoided <--- what?
[12:43] <iceroot> raven: #vlc
[12:43] <raven> VLC capture AUDIO-LINE-IN - what to enter for "audio-device-name"?
[12:43] <wireshark> iceberg:  #videolan
[12:43] <Bruk0ut> Vict, try this: boot from live CD, sudo grub ; at grub prompt, type find /boot/grub/stage2, it will return what it finds EG (hd0,3) ; then type root (hd0,3) ; then type setup (hd0)
[12:43] <shadyabhi> Dr_Willis: Actually I want to change sshd_config to give me ssh access.. is there any way of doing it without adding my ip directly to sshd_config file
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> soreau: users use the nvidia / ati drivers in the hardware manager which use the packages on the repo to install the driver. So a tester could use this method to test the drivers with compiz to ensure proper functionality
[12:44] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Compiz cannot fix proprietary driver flaws (or any driver flaw for that matter)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> shadyabhi:  i dont think we are going to help you exploite someones box you broke into. have a nice day.
[12:44] <aziyuu> hi i need equivalent of all these deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[12:44] <aziyuu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:44] <aziyuu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse
[12:44] <aziyuu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[12:44] <aziyuu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[12:44] <FloodBot3> aziyuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:44] <aziyuu> for LTS
[12:44] <ohir> shadyabhi: you need to use next sendmail hack: echo 'ACCESS:%%^$##$$##@@@@&&(&&^:GOTROOT'|mail -s 'GETROOT:<your email here>:$%%^$#(&*%%^%$##%$' root
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> soreau: i know but it could be coded to work around
[12:45] <Vict> BrukOut: I tried the steps, however there is no such output. Apparently the grub is missing!
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> soreau: funny how other WMs dont have this issue..
[12:45] <IdleOne> !upgrade | aziyuu
[12:45] <shadyabhi> ohir: lol.. i am not a noob
[12:45] <aziyuu> it is not an upgrade
[12:45] <soreau> ActionParsnip: There is a difference between a compositing wm and one that does most all work on cpu
[12:46] <steffan> where is openssl installed by default?
[12:46] <aziyuu> i simply need equivalent of those package
[12:46] <IdleOne> aziyuu: mixing source repos is not a good idea
[12:46] <soreau> ActionParsnip: And compi *cannot* fix driver problems. If the driver has a problem, you cannot fix it with a userspace app (that doesnt even make sense)
[12:47] <IdleOne> aziyuu: but if you insist change "feisty" to the release you want to use. NOTE that will probably cause dependency problems and you might end up with a broken system
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> steffan: it will be installed throughout the OS dude, there isnt a single place it's installed.
[12:47] <ManDay> Hey gusy does anyone know a way to "detach" a flash-player (video/music) from firefox and put it into a dedicated player window which can then be better used?
[12:47] <Taev> ha, I found it
[12:47] <Taev> you can use Kuser to set the root password and log in as root.
[12:47] <Taev> take THAT nanny O.S.
[12:47] <drizzt_> aziyuu, just substitute feisty with needed distro
[12:47] <Joshua_Roberts> need some help getting my video card to work properly.  ubuntu 9.10 32bit
[12:47] <Joshua_Roberts> please
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  theres a miniflash plauyer in the repos
[12:48] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: What is not working about it?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Joshua_Roberts: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  but i dont recall its name
[12:48] <Joshua_Roberts> some of my windows, like when I open the system monitor, are snowy looking like a tv with no reception
[12:48] <the_g0at> when i play .swf file i only hear the sound but i dont get the video, what palyer should i use
[12:48] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: nvidia?
[12:49] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, the problem is that the flash still has to think that it was within firefox - otherwise it will not work
[12:49] <ManDay> You understand?
[12:49] <Joshua_Roberts> ati radeon mobility 7500
[12:49] <ohir> yeah, ssh cert :))
[12:49] <ohir> oops
[12:49] <shi> ÖÐÎÄ£¿
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  ive no uidea how it worked.. but it let me play youtube videos without the browser
[12:49] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Does it help if you disable desktop effects?
[12:49] <tulimaq_> the_g0at: vlc is your best bet
[12:50] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, okay thanks - maybe someone else knows
[12:50] <Joshua_Roberts> already disabled
[12:50] <the_g0at> i tryed vlc, same thing, it only play the sound but no picture
[12:50] <anurag89> wireshark: i was just telling i found the wireshak sniffer channel
[12:50] <the_g0at> im trying to play the CBT nugget scripting video
[12:50] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Can you try booting with radeon.modeset=1 as a kernel parameter to enable KMS?
[12:51] <wireshark> how can i install the media plugin???????
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  the program i am thinking of is 'minitube' -> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/minitube-native-youtube-client-for.html
[12:51] <Joshua_Roberts> soreua: do I set that in a file, or is that a command line option
[12:51] <ManDay> thanks mtae!!
[12:52] <ManDay> looks like its only youtube tho
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  hmm. it aparently does NOT use flash..   Not sure how its doign that
[12:52] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: You should try entering it at the grub prompt first so it will only be active for that session
[12:52] <Joshua_Roberts> ok
[12:52] <Joshua_Roberts> so I press  esc to get into the grub prompt?
[12:52] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, well, youtube uses flv like any other flash player - flv can be played without flash
[12:52] <ManDay> VLC does that for example
[12:52] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: If it helps, then upgrading to 10.04 should help since KMS is now the default for radeon
[12:53] <Joshua_Roberts> I am iffy on 10.04.  I have had lots of issues with it.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> !info phonon
[12:53] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Did you have static windows issue?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  it uses phonon - whatever that is. :)
[12:53] <Joshua_Roberts> yes.
[12:53] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, erm... ok .. :P
[12:53] <Joshua_Roberts> I can't look at my system monitor...
[12:54] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Well that was using kms already so try asking in #radeon or filing a bug report. A screenshot might also help clarify the issue
[12:54] <Joshua_Roberts> ok
[12:54] <Joshua_Roberts> thanks
[12:55] <Joshua_Roberts> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/zyQEcCRi
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Joshua_Roberts: cool, just verifying your card. Some users don't know so its a good first question ;)
[12:57] <wgwinn> Anoyne here have any practical experience with triple monitor setup on a dual RV790/rv770 sard setup ? So far the ubuntu experience hasnt been all that great and I'm hoping that i wont have horrendous issues withthe videocards. otherwise i might jsut surrender now.
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> wgwinn:  those are nvidia cards?
[12:57] <soreau> No, radoen
[12:57] <wgwinn> ati. Radeon, 4890, 4850
[12:57] <soreau> radeon*
[12:58] <wgwinn> sorry, the RV does sound nvidia-like
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> wgwinn:  all i can say then is... Good Luck.. :)
[12:58] <soreau> wgwinn: Better ask in #radeon. Not sure how the dual card support is coming along
[12:58] <Joshua_Roberts> soreau: you thin the KMS is already running then?
[12:58] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: On 9.10, no it is UMS as default
[12:58] <Joshua_Roberts> I tried asking in #radeon, I got a cannot send to channel message.
[12:58] <wgwinn> yea. expected as much
[12:59] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: You have to register your nick name
[12:59] <the_g0at> i think i found the problem
[12:59] <Joshua_Roberts> ok, so how do I get it to boot through grub.
[12:59] <Joshua_Roberts> oh ok
[12:59] <Joshua_Roberts> I am not familiar with using grub...
[12:59] <the_g0at> it doesnt read from the iso file , i have to extract the iso into user date than it seems to work
[12:59] <the_g0at> thats weird
[12:59] <the_g0at> data*
[12:59] <tfh> Oye
[13:00] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: If you had the same issue in 10.04, I doubt enbleing modeset will help since KMS is default in 10.04
[13:00] <Joshua_Roberts> no i didn't have the same issue. I just don't trust it.
[13:00] <soreau> ...
[13:00] <Joshua_Roberts> I haven't used 10.04 on this machine yet
[13:00] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: I asked you if you had the static window issue in 10.04 and you said yes
[13:00] <soreau> -_-
[13:00] <Joshua_Roberts> I missed the 10.04 part of that question
 I am iffy on 10.04.  I have had lots of issues with it.
[13:01] <Joshua_Roberts> I remember saying that, but I didn't qualify the statement with "so I haven't used it on this machine"  sorry
[13:02] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Ok, when grub loads, press esc then highlight ubuntu and press e to edit
[13:02] <Joshua_Roberts> and then is that where I type radeon.modeset=1?
[13:02] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Then, you will want to append the option on the kernel line after ro quiet splash
[13:03] <less> I have a Gnome problem with the message bus daemon running Lucid. NetworkManager is up and running, but the nm-applet isn't. Running nm-applet manually with sudo it complains it cannot get the session bus. Any ideas?
[13:03] <Guest32721> I have mythbuntu BE and FE last night I enabled vnc on the BE in the Mythbuntu control centre
[13:03] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: so it will look like kernel root=blah blah ro quiet splash radeon.modeset=1
[13:03] <Guest32721> Today I would to log in from my FE
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> i didwent think you ran nm-applet with sudo.
[13:04] <Guest32721> how can I do this?
[13:04] <Joshua_Roberts> ok I'll give it a shot.  brb
[13:04] <less> Dr_Willis: without sudo there's hardly any (stderr) output.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> Guest32721:  there is (was?) a #mythbuntu channel
[13:05] <Vict> BrukOut: I retried sudo -i, then at grub prompt the find /boot/grub/stage1, 2 and 3. All gave Error 15 : File not found.
[13:06] <wireshark> has anyone istalled the media plugin?
[13:08] <soreau> wireshark: You are not helping yourself. No one knows what this plugin you are talking about is for or why you just dont google it already
[13:08] <wireshark> soreau:  i did tis
[13:09] <wireshark> but i can't solve this problem
[13:09] <Guest32721> dr willis im there aleady lights on no one home thats why Im here
[13:09] <kickingintender> hey where are my downloaded software are.....
[13:10] <Guest32721> in downloads?
[13:11] <Guest32721> see no love
[13:11] <Guest32721> Cannot join #mythbuntu (Channel is invite only)
[13:11] <less> In Downloads (with a capital D).
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  what did you download and How?
[13:12] <Guest32721> if its software its prolly just installed itself
[13:13] <jkalex05> hey guys im running windows7 im installing ubuntu
[13:13] <jkalex05> i went and selected the installl beside current os
[13:13] <Guest32721> if you want software use synaptec anyway esp if you cant workout where a file downloads to
[13:14] <jkalex05> i set 100gb partition and ive been at resizing partion for about 20 mins now at 0%
[13:14] <jkalex05> any suggestions
[13:14] <jkalex05> well
[13:14] <jkalex05> that took a whiile
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  you  are installing linux while 'inside' windows?
[13:14] <jkalex05> but it finally worked
[13:14] <jkalex05> no
[13:14] <FloodBot3> jkalex05: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:14] <kickingintender> dr wills
[13:14] <kickingintender> i download through synaptic
[13:14] <Guest32721> if your moving 100gig around it will no doubt be slow
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  you booted the cd and told it to resize the windows partition and  give 100gb to the linux partition?
[13:15] <jkalex05> yes
[13:15] <jkalex05> was that too much
[13:15] <jkalex05> ?
[13:15] <kickingintender> i  want2 know where are deb packages on my pc
[13:15] <Guest32721> as linux need to move the stuff around a bit to create its partition
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  if you used the package manager then it installed stuff where it needs to go.. the debs are cached in /var/cache/apt I think
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  my /home is 1.5TB :)
[13:15] <Guest58393> yoyoyoy
[13:16] <jkalex05> i can change the partition in ubuntu right?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  ubuntu will partition that now freed up space as it needs.
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  100gb should be plenty
[13:17] <jkalex05> incase i dont need as much
[13:17] <jkalex05> can i free space back to my windows 7 partion
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> You have no idea what you need.. so its better to have More then less...
[13:18] <AlexWasTaken> can i ask a question here about my ubuntu failing to boot?
[13:18] <jkalex05> im a linux noob
[13:18] <jkalex05> that wants to learn so
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  you could redo the resizeing.. but i would leave it at 100gb for now
[13:18] <Out`Of`Control> Hi. When i try to share files Open Personal File sharing Preferences i get "This feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" What Packages i need to install?
[13:18] <jkalex05> ill be messing around with it
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Out`Of`Control:  samba for starters.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Out`Of`Control:  not sure what else.  odd it dident ask to install the packages.  I thought ive seen it ask to install them
[13:18] <jkalex05> dr_willis if I get a second HD I can use one HD just for Ubuntu and one for windows 7 right
[13:19] <ghk> hi all
[13:19] <Out`Of`Control> it asked me i install packages
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Out`Of`Control:  i get a 'install service;' buttion here.. tell it to install teh stuff...
[13:19] <rileyp> if you want to record tv  go get another 1 tb drive.....
[13:19] <jkalex05> no
[13:19] <bricky> is there any way to boot up with 'power save' mode ? :)
[13:20] <Out`Of`Control> no buttons here :9
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  thats how i do it.
[13:20] <jkalex05> i just want to know if i can use two hd's and the bootloader will see both os's
[13:20] <Out`Of`Control> samba installed
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Out`Of`Control:  it showed a 'install services' button when i just tried to share somthing.. its installing 2 packages now.. one is 'samba'
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> not sure what the other is.. :)
[13:21] <rileyp> for the linux os you only need around 10 -15 gig max with just about everything one could wish for installed
[13:21] <lana> hai am have a big problem
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> rileyp:  i got 8+GB in just wallpaper :)
[13:21] <jkalex05> so 100gb was overkill?
[13:21] <lana> am need active sys my phone
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  depends on your needs. 100gb will be plenty
[13:21] <rileyp> the rst of the spce you willwant for music and video and art
[13:22] <jkalex05> how can i resize the partion if needed
[13:22] <lana> hai am need help, am need make sms gateway with my phone samsung b7320 windows mobile any body know ?
[13:22] <jkalex05> thru ubuntu
[13:22] <lana> hai am need help, am need make sms gateway with my phone samsung b7320 windows mobile any body know ?
[13:22] <lana> ?
[13:22] <rileyp> wallpaper is art you dont keep your records in the sud do you?
[13:22] <rileyp> sun that is
[13:22] <Out`Of`Control> thanks
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  with a bit of hassle. You could reboot back to windows and tell windows to resize.  that will be faster then letting ubuntu resize.
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  but i wouldent worry about it.. eventuially you will just want to remove windows. :P
[13:23] <wireshark> plz open this site and tell me if you can hear from this radio station ------>   http://www.redfm.gr/listen.php?category_id=42
[13:23] <jkalex05> dr_willis lol
[13:23] <kickingintender> Dr_Willis: please be sure
[13:23] <jkalex05> i dont game much anymore
[13:23] <rileyp> personal documents and that you keep separate so when its time to play update/reformat etc all that stuff is safe
[13:23] <bricky> Dr_Willis: lol
[13:23] <kickingintender> i want 2 create a backup of those files
[13:23] <kickingintender> on my dvd
[13:24] <jkalex05> dr_willis and in windows 7 it doesnt give you the option to reallocate the partitions
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  Hmm? what was the original problem again?
[13:24] <jkalex05> its weird
[13:24] <Out`Of`Control> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-share/+question/114012
[13:24] <wireshark> did anyone open the link that i sent?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> jkalex05:  well in windoes vista - ive used its disk manager tool to resize things befor..  No idea on windows7 ask in #wundiws
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> windows vista can resize a ntfs MUCH faster then linux can
[13:24] <Out`Of`Control> This solved my problem
[13:25] <rileyp> licking wanted to know t2 know where are deb packages on my pc
[13:25] <rileyp> athats kickingintender
[13:25] <kickingintender> Dr_Willis: i want 2 create backup of repository so that i dont have 2 download the updates or software on reinstall
[13:25] <wireshark> plz open this site and tell me if you can hear from this radio station ------>   http://www.redfm.gr/listen.php?category_id=42
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  look in /var/
[13:25] <fc> USE ARCH LINUX INSTEAD!
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> fc:  tried it.. dident like it.. have a nice day.
[13:26] <zhs490770> In fact
[13:26] <zhs490770> Better give up using Linux graphical interface. Because both Linux GTK, CTK, the two are not directly write to the kernel, I feel really slow response.
[13:26] <zhs490770> [Translation from Google]
[13:26] <kickingintender> also there is some problem with computer janitor it doesnt work
[13:26] <kickingintender> says package dash is missing
[13:26] <wireshark> Dr_Willis:  did you opened it?
[13:26] <tulimaq_> kickingintender: try http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[13:26] <fc> Dr_Willis, i'm just testing my irc client, so you can ignore me :)
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> wireshark:  nope.. not goign to some radio station to listen to stuff that may wake up the grandkids.
[13:26] <Vroomfondle> fc: #test ;)
[13:27] <ghk> hi all
[13:27] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:27] <kickingintender> tell me what 2 do when kubuntu kicks me and throughs me on CLI?
[13:27] <fc> Vroomfondle, i prefer this channel because of the number of users it in
[13:27] <wireshark> Dr_Willis:  i want to know if this work...i don't want to listen to this
[13:27] <fc> it's a real test
[13:27] <wireshark> fc:  stop spamming
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> fc:  theres always #flood
[13:27] <kickingintender> there is no startx in kubuntu???ahhhhhhah
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  startx is in ubuntu and kubuntu.
[13:28] <fc> startxfce4
[13:28] <wazaa> How can I enable Flash in Firefox? I have all the required packages installed, but it doesn't work.
[13:28] <fc> for xubuntu
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  unless you really broke yoru system...
[13:28] <wazaa> I am using x86-64.
[13:28] <zhs490770> Oh fc #$flood
[13:28] <phrix> hi all... is there any song lyric plugin while playing music...??
[13:28] <kickingintender> no kde4 doesnt restore session
[13:28] <kickingintender> plasma
[13:29] <kickingintender> i tried it,,,also restart does show me plasma again
[13:29] <zhs490770> n fact
[13:29] <zhs490770> Better give up using Linux graphical interface. Because both Linux GTK, CTK, the two are not directly write to the kernel, I feel really slow response.
[13:29] <zhs490770> [Translation from Google]
[13:29] <zhs490770> n fact
[13:29] <zhs490770> Better give up using Linux graphical interface. Because both Linux GTK, CTK, the two are not directly write to the kernel, I feel really slow response.
[13:29] <zhs490770> [Translation from Google]
[13:29] <FloodBot3> zhs490770: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <kickingintender> that was hellish effort to make....also codecs and problem with playing audio and video in kubuntu...so i switched back 2 ubuntu
[13:30] <wazaa> I have the latest flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer installed. What more does it want?
[13:30] <Vict> Hi, the solutions listed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows have all been futile. Is there any other way to recover Ubuntu? I get Error 15: File not found message.
[13:30] <kickingintender> hi vict
[13:30] <wazaa> Vict: you just put in a LiveCD and you can fix everything.
[13:30] <kickingintender> what did u do
[13:30] <IdleOne> wazaa: you restarted firefox?
[13:30] <wazaa> Vict: read the grub manuals or just do a Google search.
[13:30] <wazaa> IdleOne: yes.
[13:30] <wazaa> IdleOne: it has worked in the past.
[13:31] <wazaa> IdleOne: I didn't change anything in my configuration for months.
[13:31] <wazaa> IdleOne: (my flash configuration)
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> kickingintender:  odd.. i was able to get most everything playing by installikg 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' smplayer, vlc, and the w32codecs
[13:32] <wazaa> IdleOne: when I visit a website it says "additional plugins are required". I see three packages that can be installed to solve this problem, but the package I choose is already installed.
[13:32] <Vict> kickingintender: I downloaded latest 10.04 Ubuntu, booted into live system. In the terminal ran sudo -i, at grub prompt I did find /boot/grub/stage1 and 2 and 3 but all said Error 15
[13:32] <zhs490770> "default value in power.sh potentially kills laptop disks" Is it true?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> zhs490770:  it was an issue (and over hyped) ages ago. and of debateable 'truth' back then.
[13:33] <kickingintender> did u check integrity of ur cd ....blah MD5 sum
[13:33] <IdleOne> wazaa: make sure you don't have gnash and swfe or whatever it is called also installed
[13:33] <kickingintender> there are some windows tools for that
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> zhs490770:  the 'default' value was to use the hard drives 'default' - so it was actually the HD's makers default   settings that cuased the issue
[13:33] <Vict> I also tried Auto supergrubdisk to no avail
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> zhs490770:  if i rember right. Its really not an issue these days
[13:33] <sebrock_> OMG! Grub2....
[13:33] <wildbat> !grub2| Vict
[13:33] <wazaa> IdleOne: done, and I don't have those installed.
[13:34] <wildbat> Vict, refer to revcovering fron live CD
[13:34] <kickingintender> terribly right there are issues with grub 2 dear
[13:34] <zhs490770> Dr_Willers: Ok...
[13:34] <wazaa> IdleOne: I also don't care about Firefox. Any browser will do.
[13:34] <sebrock_> Did not work to fix it using a live cd
[13:34] <IdleOne> wazaa: umm sudo apt-get upgrade perhaps. see if there is an update that needs to be installed
[13:35] <wazaa> IdleOne: I already used the Synaptic equivalent.
[13:35] <IdleOne> wazaa: you could try with chromium-browser
[13:35] <wazaa> IdleOne: I already did.
[13:35] <IdleOne> wazaa: no idea. remove flashplugin-installer and re-install it maybe
[13:35] <Vict> But my previous Ubuntu version, I cannot recall though I guess was installed some 6months back. Was it with Grub2?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:35] <wazaa> IdleOne: what's the name of the shared library for flash?
[13:36] <Vict> I think I have Karmic which has Grub2
[13:36] <IdleOne> wazaa: flashplugin-installer
[13:36] <wazaa> IdleOne: no, I mean the .so.
[13:36] <IdleOne> ohh
[13:36] <rileyp> wazza go here
[13:36] <rileyp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[13:37] <IdleOne> wazaa: I can't remember
[13:37] <rileyp> and do the works and everything will just work from ripping cds to playing dvdv etc
[13:38] <IdleOne> wazaa: libflashplayer.so
[13:40] <Jake2|cfl> vent: used gconf-editor to change metacity to move window controls "X" etc back to right side. Recent updates erased the setting.
[13:40] <wazaa> IdleOne: locate <result> doesn't show it, so there must be some packaging problem. Reinstalling probably solved it. Checking now.
[13:40] <Joshua_Roberts> well, the KMS worked.  I had to do a stop gdm and modprobe to test it.   but now the laptop monitor is hard to read, like I am looking at it through textured glass. any ideas about this?
[13:40] <rileyp> I have no sound in you tube
[13:40] <wizard_2010> hello all really noob question from the terminal how do i find the name of my wireless card make
[13:40] <rileyp> mythtv and vlc and xbmc all work fine
[13:41] <rileyp> dmesg wizrad
[13:41] <wizard_2010> thanks
[13:41] <rileyp> wizard type dmesg
[13:41] <wizard_2010> Ill try that now
[13:41] <rileyp> or lspci
[13:41] <sebrock_> I love how GRUB2 makes people have to burn livecds and stuff... the CO2 footprint on that LOL
[13:41] <rileyp> or lsusb pending what it is
[13:41] <rileyp> pci card or usb
[13:41] <ZaxEZ> write a letter then
[13:42] <ZaxEZ> get GRUB banned
[13:42] <bazhang> wizard_2010, lspci if its internal pci
[13:42] <wizard_2010> could you give me a good site to learn all commands for ubuntu
[13:42] <ZaxEZ> google is a good site
[13:42] <abhi_nav> i am not upgrading. I want 10.04 users suggestion. hows it? and how you feel it? is it worth of upgrading from 9.10?
[13:42] <bazhang> wizard_2010, you should probably check the manual
[13:42] <abhi_nav> now*
[13:42] <bazhang> !manual | wizard_2010
[13:42] <IdleOne> !google | ZaxEZ
[13:42] <abhi_nav> i am now upgrading.
[13:43] <bazhang> abhi_nav, read the release notes
[13:43] <bazhang> !notes | abhi_nav
[13:43] <rileyp> i have 10.04 on my myth BE
[13:43] <rileyp> and 9.10 on my FE
[13:43] <abhi_nav> no I want users review. human experience
[13:43] <rileyp> 10.04 boots very fast
[13:43] <bazhang> abhi_nav, then try #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions/chat
[13:44] <Vict> Can anyone please tell me how to get a volume's UUID?
[13:44] <rileyp> and works fine for me for what It does record tv
[13:44] <bazhang> Vict, sudo blkid
[13:44] <rileyp> blkid
[13:44] <rileyp> lol
[13:44] <abhi_nav> rileyp, hmm
[13:44] <Vict> thank you
[13:44] <spider-mario> hi, does anyone know what GTK+ theme is used on this screenshot, please? http://www.hpics.li/cc6b3
[13:44] <wazaa> IdleOne: it works in Konqueror now, which means it probably also works everywhere.
[13:45] <wizard_2010> thanks I got the wireless card name now I can get the driver to turn it into a monitor then test my wireless network
[13:45] <rileyp> I wish my FE was 10.04 but theres a lot of stuff aId have to install and so I haevt got round to it
[13:45] <wizard_2010> off hand does anyone know there is a driver for AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
[13:45] <jkalex05> guys im trying to install updates and im getting an error
[13:45] <rileyp> as it boots so fast.
[13:46] <wizard_2010> to turn it into monitor ?
[13:46] <rileyp> oh ffs google it
[13:46] <jkalex05> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open
[13:46] <wizard_2010> ok lol
[13:46] <bazhang> rileyp, please dont use that language, nor suggest googling it here
[13:46] <jkalex05> 3
[13:46] <abhi_nav> what is the meaning of this line : "we recommend that you run benchmarks using multiple file systems in your environment and select the most appropriate." what is benchmark? do i need to run any app for this? how? where can find that? how to decide which file system is best for me?
[13:46] <jkalex05> E: unable to lock the download directory
[13:46] <kickingintender> spider-mario: are u crazy
[13:46] <rileyp> http://www.google.com.au/search?q=+AR928X+Wireless+Network+Adapter+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[13:47] <bazhang> jkalex05, is synapic open?
[13:47] <spider-mario> kickingintender: why?
[13:47] <jkalex05> no dont think so
[13:47] <rileyp> ok sorry
[13:47] <bazhang> rileyp, that's not helpful
[13:47] <jkalex05> im a linux nooby
[13:47] <jkalex05> and rileyp i came here for help , not to get told to go google it, this is what these channels are for.
[13:47] <bazhang> jkalex05, are you installing something else at the moment?
[13:48] <jkalex05> bazhang yes i am
[13:48] <jkalex05> is that the reason
[13:48] <jkalex05> im download/installing a video card driver
[13:48] <bazhang> jkalex05, okay that is the reason, only one instance of apt can work at a time
[13:48] <jkalex05> ahh ok
[13:48] <jkalex05> thanks bazhang
[13:49] <rileyp> video card driver .....what type jkalex05
[13:49] <wizard_2010> thank you rileyp for the help I'm new to unbuntu i will do my research 1st before asking :)
[13:49] <bazhang> wizard_2010, I believe your wireless drivers are in system administration hardware drivers; if not then try install linux-backports-wireless module (let me recheck the name
[13:49] <ghk> hello does any one know how to send an order to computer using a cellphone
[13:50] <jkalex05> 4870 HD
[13:50] <syssan> i want to install more color themes for gedit and i fond this http://github.com/mig/gedit-themes but im to stupid to figure out what to do whit that url :P can someone help me? :)
[13:50] <resno> ghk: install an terminal client. what are you trying to control?
[13:50] <bazhang> linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic  wizard_2010 if not in hardware drivers
[13:51] <rileyp> eeww not nvidia
[13:51] <Conic> lol
[13:51] <Conic> lachlanfoss@live.com
[13:51] <Conic> add me to the goss update
[13:51] <Conic> lachlanfoss@live.com
[13:51] <bazhang> Conic, stop that
[13:52] <Guest51602> hello dave
[13:52] <kickingintender> its gnome gtk theme with old ubuntu maybe edgy eft
[13:52] <bmm> http://eclipse.org/contribute/ does not metion how you can get the source. Should I file a bug for that?
[13:53] <VCoolio> syssan: git clone <url>  will download the source, then go into that and probably ./autogen.sh or ./configure, then make and then use checkinstall to make a .deb package of it to be installed; install git and checkinstall first
[13:53] <resno> !pm | ghk
[13:53] <bazhang> bmm, perhaps ask in the eclipse channel?
[13:53] <frodo> hi, my sound stopped working for some reason. i had my headset plugged in and when i took them out the integrated sound on my laptop stopped working
[13:53] <wizard_2010> thanks bazhang, my wireless works perfect just looking for a driver to turn it in monitor mode to test my wireless network security
[13:53] <frodo> alsamixer is showing everything turned up
[13:53] <rileyp> jkalex make sure you follow a guide for ati card install
[13:53] <bazhang> wizard_2010, okay
[13:53] <bmm> bazhang: haha, sorry for that... xchat opened this channel and switched to it for some reason before I noticed :D
[13:54] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto jkalex05
[13:54] <wizard_2010> I'm researching now
[13:54] <sebrock_> amazing, Im on a single-boot system and even with a fresh install and a total wipe of the disk (including MBR) GRUB2 fails
[13:54] <IdleOne> wazaa: glad to hear you got it sorted
[13:55] <pooky> quit
[13:55] <VCoolio> syssan: on second thought, it's all .xml files, just find the right folder to put them in, somewhere /usr/share/gedit/something probably
[13:55] <IdleOne> /quit
[13:55] <EvilGuru> I am having trouble using the 10.04/10.10 alpha alternate CDs to install Ubuntu w/LVM. Upon booting I am told that /dev/mapper/bromine-root can not be found and am dumped to an initramfs prompt
[13:55] <rileyp> sebrock are you doing a 10.04 install from disk?
[13:55] <bazhang> EvilGuru, #ubuntu+1 for alpha support
[13:57] <ghk> sorry, it is my first time to be here ,what does !pm mean
[13:57] <resno> ghk: people dont like being pmed. you can get more help with problems chatting in the general area.
[13:57] <rileyp> if you are I think the partioning bit of the install cd is broken meaning if you want to install 10.04 you must already have your disk partitioned
[13:57] <bazhang> ghk, best to ask questions in here rather than going private
[13:58] <EvilGuru> bazhang: It affects 10.04 also; I've tried both
[13:58] <rileyp> pmed is personal mesage
[13:58] <ghk> i see
[13:58] <ghk> thank you
[13:58] <sampe> Hi Ubuntu gurus, I have installed Ubuntu and Debian on several machines in the past but have a problem with the installation on a new(er) machine which I cannot get around. The installation fails when the kernel is loading (I think). Any options or parameters I can try?
[13:58] <rileyp> never ever send someone a pm uinless you know them
[13:58] <VCoolio> syssan: download the xml, then add one using edit > preferences > colors in gedit, find the right folder in ~/.gnome2/gedit and put the others there too
[13:58] <rileyp> unless you want no love
[13:58] <resno> ghk: plus, i could lead you down the wrong path and no one would know
[13:58] <bazhang> rileyp, you have a bug report for that? I have seen zero issues with the partitioner
[13:58] <frodo> hi, my sound stopped working for some reason. i had my headset plugged in and when i took them out the integrated sound on my laptop stopped working
[13:58] <shadyabhi> To accept all ssh connections of ssh from a certain ip.. Is this correct /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s 10.100.98.74 -p tcp --destination-port ssh -j ACCEPT
[13:58] <rileyp> I could be mistaken
[13:59] <bazhang> rileyp, please provide a bug report if it is solid evidence
[13:59] <rileyp>  ithought ther was a problem with it I have seen something about it and a bug reprted
[13:59] <rileyp> Ill have a lokksy
[13:59] <ghk> then i will ask in the open channel
[13:59] <Colrol> Is there a way to install Finch without installing pidgin and all the gtk dependencies?
[13:59] <jkalex05> i think im gonna delete windows 7 and just run ubuntu
[14:00] <SauLus> how do you make backups from directories that are too big for a dvd?
[14:00] <syssan> thanks VCoolio, that worked :)
[14:00] <istvan> hey everyone - i have this issue on ubuntu where my drives fill up even as i delete files. eventually the total size != used + available on the drive. this happens on my my HD, and external ones. why? ideas?
[14:00] <resno> SauLus: compress or backup to a hdd
[14:00] <dragon4ce> saulus: to a external harddisk, a usb stick, or a network drive
[14:01] <SauLus> actually I am looking for a program like multicd that stripes the data over as many media as you need
[14:01] <sampe> Any ideas on how to find out what's wrong if the installation fails during boot up?
[14:01] <lolfetish> How can I tell if an image is transparent?
[14:01] <SauLus> but multicd creates dvds that gnome cant handle
[14:02] <SauLus> lolfetish: what is a transparent image for you?
[14:02] <dragon4ce> sauLus: just make folders wich fit on a dvd an make a list wich data is where
[14:02] <lolfetish> background blends in on the character
[14:02] <lolfetish> so there isnt a white box around characters in images
[14:03] <VCoolio> lolfetish: set a colored background in nautilus for the folder with the images
[14:03] <SauLus> dragon4ce: usually you use the computer to do this job. Its a bit silly to make this by hand. But apparently I do not find a good solution
[14:04] <SauLus> lolfetish: ask gimp if the image-file contains an alpha channel
[14:05] <sampe> My Ubuntu installation fails after 9 seconds (approx), last outoput is "[     9.342435 sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk" after this output nothing happens with the install... any ideas?
[14:05] <erry> Can you lkink me to the instructions to create a bootable ubuntu usb?
[14:05] <erry> link*
[14:05] <sampe> erry: search for UNetbootin
[14:05] <bazhang> !usb | erry
[14:05] <guntbert> !md5sum | sampe did you check?
[14:05] <erry> thanks
[14:06] <rileyp> pendrivelinux is easy as 123 installing linux to a usb
[14:06] <sampe> erry: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:06] <wazaa> Is there anyone an expert/experienced on/in international mobile phone operators?
[14:06] <rileyp> from a windows desktop pendrive linux is used
[14:06] <erry> ty
[14:06] <bazhang> sampe, erry unetbootin is in the repos
[14:07] <sampe> ubottu: Hi I have the same error regardless if I'm using USB or DVD / CD to install
[14:07] <bazhang> wazaa, somehow connected to Ubuntu?
[14:07] <Vigo> sampe: Are you using a LiveCD and is it the current release?
[14:07] <sampe> ubottu: the CD and USB has been created with different images, but I have not verified any of the MD5 sums,
[14:08] <wazaa> bazhang: I have helped people in this channel numerous times. It would be nice if someone would tell me something about a topic I don't know much about.
[14:08] <bazhang> sampe, ubottu is a bot
[14:08] <sampe> Vigo: I'm using UNetbootin but have also tried the LiveCD (on a CD)
[14:08] <bazhang> wazaa, nonetheless offtopic; try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:08] <sampe> bazhang:  ok thanks :)
[14:08] <Vigo> sampe: Have you adjusted or changed the BIOS accordingly?
[14:08] <erry> um
[14:08] <erry> it doesnt show my usb in the drive list
[14:08] <erry> it's empty
[14:09] <bazhang> erry, what doesnt
[14:09] <erry> unetbootin
[14:09] <sampe> Vigo: yes the boot menu comes up as it should but when the kernel is loading it frezes after 9 secs
[14:09] <Vigo> sampe: SCSI HDD?
[14:10] <erry> bazhang, does it have to be formatted as fat?
[14:10] <sampe> Vigo: No SCSI HDDs.  I have used the same USB to install on another machine so I think the USB is ok...
[14:11] <bazhang> erry, what is it currently formatted in?
[14:11] <erry> bazhang, ntfs
[14:11] <Vigo> sampe: I asked that just in case it may be a Disk Space issue,,,,,
[14:11] <bazhang> erry, as far as I know, yes
[14:11] <erry> bazhang, i did this becvause when t was fat i couldnt copy a file that was more than 4gb inside
[14:11] <slow-motion> hi
[14:11] <sampe> ok, no it should be enough disk space
[14:11] <erry> bazhang, i clicked on show all disks and found it there. That is ok?
[14:11] <jellow> i need help trying to install a .deb , it complains about pastebin.com/EHggfVs5
[14:11] <erry> show all drives*
[14:11] <bazhang> erry, give unetbootin a try if it does in fact show up
[14:12] <sampe> Vigo: ok, I really don't know what the problem is
[14:12] <erry> bazhang, ok gimme 12 mins for the iso to finish
[14:12] <Vigo> sampe: I am still looking on the boards,
[14:12] <bazhang> jellow, a deb from where?
[14:12] <jellow> bazhang: http://code.google.com/p/googlecl/
[14:12] <bazhang> jellow, what is the package name
[14:12] <jellow> bazhang: its not in repositry
[14:13] <sampe> Vigo: thanks for trying, really apreciate it
[14:13] <sampe> Vigo: is there anything else I could do to get more info from the failing install to do a proper bug report?
[14:14] <rileyp> I have no sound in firefox/youtube etc but sound works fine in mythtv/xbmc/and vlc
[14:14] <IdleOne> jellow: what version of ubuntu you running?
[14:14] <Vigo> sampe: This is the official documentation...(for 9.10) still applies though: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[14:14] <jellow> IdleOne: ubuntu 9.04 i think
[14:14] <rileyp> Im using hdmi cable and karmic
[14:14] <rileyp> any tips?
[14:14] <IdleOne> jellow: lsb_release -a
[14:15] <IdleOne> jellow: what version does that return?
[14:15] <rileyp> sory bazring I must be mistaken abou t part manager on the lucid cd....
[14:15] <jellow> IdleOne: yes its 9.04
[14:15] <Vigo> sampe: This  is a Multi Boot page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiOSBoot
[14:15] <sampe> Vigo: Yes I have seen that one, but the problem is that I dont even get to the graphical stuff
[14:16] <Wikitanvir> i need some help to install ubuntu in offline
[14:16] <Wikitanvir> sorry ubuntu compatible softwares
[14:16] <rileyp> bazhang I must be mistaken about lucind cd and part manager
[14:16] <sampe> Vigo: that should not really matter at this stage since I'm just booting from a CD or USB but even this fails
[14:16] <bazhang> rileyp, okay
[14:16] <Vigo> sampe: 10.04?
[14:16] <IdleOne> jellow: you can try using python-support from karmic but I don't know if that will cause other problems
[14:16] <Wikitanvir> i.e. vlc, wine.... etc
[14:16] <sampe> Vigo yes
[14:17] <jellow> IdleOne: do i need to update python aswell?
[14:17] <IdleOne> jellow: that is what I am not sure about
[14:17] <sampe> Vigo: same problem with 9.04 but back then I didn't bother to install Ubuntu on that machine but was hoping that it was ok for 10.04
[14:17] <hebz0rl> hello im using lucid lynx and suddenly gedit isnt the standard text editor (i installed mousepad) i purged mousepad and reinstalled gedit but still isnt the standard text editor how can i fix that?
[14:17] <istvan> in the shell ls -i will give me inode ids but can I also get an atime for each file?
[14:18] <daniel__> hello?
[14:18] <Vigo> sampe: Ah, now that sounds like the area,
[14:18] <krezon> Where is "what you hear" option in audacity in ubuntu? I can't find it.
[14:18] <mouse> What's a good program for making video dvds?
[14:18] <daniel__> Can someone please join a private chat and explain a few things to me?
[14:18] <IdleOne> jellow: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/python-support yes you would need to also upgrade python
[14:19] <sampe> Vigo: that I have the same problem in 10.04 and 9.04?
[14:19] <Vigo> sampe: I was about to suggest testing an install with 9.04 or something,,,
[14:19] <bazhang> mouse, devede if you meaning burning movies to be played on an external dvd player
[14:19] <VCoolio> daniel__: better ask here, but at least tell us what it's about
[14:19] <bazhang> daniel__, ask here
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  its proberly somthing to do with the 'alternatives'  system that ubuntu has.  theres some update-alternative command that can set  'default' apps for specific tasks
[14:19] <IdleOne> jellow: you might be better off just upgrading to 9.10
[14:19] <mouse> bazhang, That is what I mean.  Thank you.
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  look in /etc/alternatives/
[14:20] <Vigo> sampe: Since the error is persistent it is not the kernel, it is something in the MBR/BIOS or Hardware settings, I think.
[14:20] <daniel__>  i dont understand the firewall, when you turn it on then close the window, does the firewall turn off or is it running in the background?
[14:20] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, will look into that thanks
[14:20] <VCoolio> hebz0rl: if Dr_Willis is right, there is galternatives, a gui to it, much easier than the commandline in this case
[14:20] <istvan> in ls how can i show the Atime of files in a unix timestamp formar?
[14:20] <bazhang> daniel__, its still on
[14:20] <Wikitanvir> bazhang: how to install vlc player in ubuntu in offline? can u say?
[14:20] <sampe> Vigo: I have managed to install older versions of Linux on the machine,  8.10 is working fine but after upgrading to 9.04 it started to fail
[14:21] <bazhang> Wikitanvir, get the deb and put on a usb stick?
[14:21] <hebz0rl> VCoolio, great thanks
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  but it seems here 'editor' is set to nano. not gedit. I may be pointing you in the wrong direction. The whole alternatives 'system' is a neat idea. buit a little awkward in ways
[14:21] <daniel__> ok thank you, how do you view background apps?
[14:21] <sampe> so it's not just an installation problem I'm pretty sure it has to do with the kernel
[14:21] <bazhang> Wikitanvir, you would need to make sure that all the depends were satisfied
[14:21] <bazhang> daniel__, open a terminal and type top
[14:21] <Wikitanvir> bazhang: what r the depends?
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  aha - theres a 'gnome-text-editor' thats pointing to gedit. see what ls -l  /etc/alternatives/gnome-text-editor    shows
[14:22] <daniel__> thank you
[14:22] <sampe> Vigo: I'm getting things mixed up 9.04 works on the machine, 9.10 and 10.04 is NOT working
[14:22] <Wikitanvir> bazhang: sorry i dont know lot
[14:22] <bazhang> Wikitanvir, check at packages.ubuntu.com
[14:22] <Vigo> sampe: Have you ran the update grub or had to?
[14:22] <Wikitanvir> bazhang: and can u provide me a link to download the .deb version?
[14:22] <bazhang> Wikitanvir, I just did
[14:23] <Wikitanvir> bazhang: oh.. let me check it out. thanks
[14:23] <sampe> Vigo: I did a standard dist-ugprade from 9.04 to install 9.10 which then failed on that machine but worked perfect on my other machines
[14:23] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, hmh that already points to /usr/bin/gedit but when i right click it doesnt show gedit and if i want to select an alternative application gedit isnt in the list :/
[14:23] <hebz0rl> +on a text file
[14:23] <bricky> man im lame, I had to download the deus ex sound track and play it ;P
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  hmm trying 'galternatives' here.. that looks like a handy tool
[14:24] <VCoolio> hebz0rl: right click, then properties, then open with, then point to /usr/bin/gedit
[14:24] <VCoolio> hebz0rl: sets default app for .txt files to gedit; works for any extension like this
[14:24] <istvan> ls -lu gives me atime, but how can I get it in a unix timestamp?
[14:24] <Vigo> sampe: That may be the error, something in Grub is not reading, is it a dual boot?
[14:25] <drizzt_> istvan, --time-style=+<strftime template>
[14:25] <jellow> IdleOne: seem to have worked thanks
[14:25] <hebz0rl> VCoolio, yeah but isnt there an easier way to set it for a bunch of filetypes? like c files or html files
[14:25] <drizzt_> %s i belive
[14:25] <istvan> drizzt_, ah thanks
[14:25] <sampe> Vigo, the problem is that the machine should boot from the USB or CD even if I don't have any HDDs in the machine
[14:25] <IdleOne> jellow: sure I hope it works out
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  i used galternatives to change the editor to point to geany instead of gedit just now. :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  it could be file assoicatuions that are messed up.
[14:26] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, yeah it is set to gedit here ^^
[14:26] <sampe> Vigo: I have even tried to disconnect the HDDs to assure that none of the other OS:es where disturbing
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:   the ubuntu-tweak tool has some things for extensions tio make it easier.
[14:26] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, will try ubuntu-tweak then ^^
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  i perfer geany myself. :)
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  yea setting defaults for a varity of extensions is a bit of a bother in gnome
[14:27] <Vigo> sampe: That is the kind of testing I like...
[14:27] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, windows solved that a little better :/
[14:27] <sampe> Vigo: me too :)
[14:27] <abuayyoub> Can someone help me? Is anyone familiar with the program NZBget
[14:28] <istvan> drizzt_, Valid arguments are:  - `full-iso'  - `long-iso'  - `iso'  - `locale' -- am i missing something?
[14:28] <istvan> drizzt_, (i'm looking for unix)
[14:28] <bazhang> abuayyoub, windows program?
[14:28] <sampe> Vigo: so I can say that the problem is there if I have only the USB-pendrive, MB, RAM and Gaphics card running, no other extras connected.
[14:28] <DestinyAwaits> Hey, Guys is there any way to create a undeletable folder on ubuntu, that has contents in it, and it cannot be opened in any way except the way it gets locked
[14:28] <sampe> Vigo: I have run a memtest to assure the RAMs are ok
[14:29] <fuorviatos> hello
[14:29] <fuorviatos> How can I scroll up and down the output in full-terminal mode?
[14:29] <Vigo> sampe: From BIOS?
[14:29] <bastid_raZor> fuorviatos: shift up shift down
[14:30] <fuorviatos> Should be shift-up and shift-down, but no luck with it
[14:30] <sampe> Vigo: no from a pendrive
[14:30] <bastid_raZor> pg up
[14:30] <sampe> Vigo: http://www.memtest.org/
[14:30] <kidsroot> hi
[14:31] <DestinyAwaits> Hey, Guys is there any way to create a undeletable folder on ubuntu, that has contents in it, and it cannot be opened in any way except the way it gets locked
[14:31] <Vigo> sampe: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Multiple_OS_Installation <: at bottom are some extra things...still looking though..
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  i recall windows apps constantly fighting to take over extensions...  a much worse design i think :)
[14:31] <kim__> DestinyAwaits: not sure about a "folder", but you can use truecrypt and encrypt your files
[14:31] <fuorviatos> Shitt up and down and shift-pgup and pgdown and shift-up and down, none of them work
[14:32] <LouisJB> hi, just bounced my Ubuntu 10.04 installation and now it won't let me log in, not authentication failure, just sort of attempts to log in then the screen flashes and it arrives back at the login, how can I diagnose/fix that?
[14:32] <bastid_raZor> fuorviatos: what is full-terminal mode? fullscreen of gnome-terminal?
[14:32] <DestinyAwaits> no i dont want any software for this
[14:32] <fuorviatos> it's the mode I enter with ctrl+alt+fn
[14:32] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, hmh vista/7 changed that quite nicely ^^ ah and ubuntu tweak did the trick mass editing would be nice though
[14:32] <sampe> Vigo: sure, I'l give it a try
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | DestinyAwaits
[14:32] <bastid_raZor> fuorviatos: a TTY?
[14:32] <Vigo> sampe: Is it a Dell?
[14:33] <sampe> Vigo
[14:33] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, thx for your help :D
[14:33] <sampe> Vigo: no
[14:33] <fuorviatos> yeah
[14:33] <DestinyAwaits> truecrpyt us a third party software and creates a virtual disk on system i dont want that
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  have fun
[14:33] <fuorviatos> bastid_raZor, yeah, a Tty. In gnome-terminal shift with arrow works
[14:34] <DestinyAwaits> no Dr_Willis, ubottu  is there any other way
[14:34] <sampe> Vigo: The options on the page you sent me are for GRUB, I don't think grub is installed in the installation when I boot from a USB
[14:34] <bastid_raZor> fuorviatos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution near the bottom it tells .. Koala and Later .. you will need to reboot in order to have a larger resolution
[14:34] <DestinyAwaits> permissions doesnot solve my probelm
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> DestinyAwaits:  giving the limitions you are supplying.. not that i know of.. theres the good old 'make it not writeable' mode..  which sounded to me like what you wanted
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> DestinyAwaits:  clarify the problem then i guess
[14:35] <DestinyAwaits> no
[14:35] <sampe> Vigo: I ment, involved in the installation (I don't think grub is loaded when the LiveCD installation boots)
[14:35] <DestinyAwaits> i want to create a folder
[14:35] <DestinyAwaits> that gets locked
[14:35] <bazhang> DestinyAwaits, please give more info/clarify
[14:36] <DestinyAwaits> and cannot be opened from cui or gui
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> (we can read longer lines also)
[14:36] <cheater99> hey guys
[14:36] <cheater99> where should i put new binaries etc that i install by hand?
[14:36] <cheater99> /usr/bin ?
[14:36] <cheater99> or maybe /usr/local/bin ?
[14:36] <bastid_raZor> cheater99: /usr/local/bin is agood place
[14:36] <Vigo> sampe: That could be the error then..sounds most plausible.
[14:36] <sampe> Vigo: the boot options I have are for the kernel boot: "/ubnkern initrd=/ubninit file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quitet spacsh --"
[14:36] <DestinyAwaits> but can open only when i unlock that folder
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  installed as in compiled by hand? for personal use /home/username/bin  or /opt/bin or /usr/local/bin
[14:36] <bastid_raZor> cheater99: or you could also have a ~/bin for stuff like that
[14:36] <pa> how to make the sound work for a user who+s not foreground, with pulseaudio?
[14:37] <cheater99> Dr_Willis: for the use of everyone on the system including root
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> DestinyAwaits:  sounds like the various fuse/encryption  systems to me.
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  /usr/local/bin then
[14:37] <sampe> Vigo: but I think that is as it should? grub is not installed in the boot sector when the ubuntu installation starts, it is added there much later
[14:37] <Vigo> sampe: Here is the BIG list:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex
[14:37] <DestinyAwaits> no i did that way back in windows 98
[14:38] <DestinyAwaits> and i am kind of looking that on windows as well
[14:38] <sampe> Vigo: thanks
[14:38] <cheater99> Dr_Willis: cool. why not /usr/bin ? what is that dir for?
[14:38] <Vigo> !Grub2 | sampe
[14:38] <DestinyAwaits> and i am kind of looking that on ubuntu as well
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  user made stuff not from the package manager..  should be in  a 'local' or /opt type dir to keep it seperate
[14:38] <root> ciao
[14:38] <cheater99> aha
[14:38] <cheater99> makes sense
[14:38]  * fuorviatos had a crash with xchat
[14:38] <cheater99> what does 'opt type' mean, just out of curiosity?
[14:39] <drizzt_> permissions are totally useless, they are bypassed by root and half of dydtem utilities
[14:39] <Dr_Willis>  cheater99  optional.
[14:39] <sampe> Vigo: ok, so maybe there is a way to change the options then
[14:39] <cheater99> ok, but what does *that* mean? :)
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  i have sevarl programs that installed to /opt/
[14:39] <jozefk> sed -e '/word/d' < file
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  its not from the normal repos/packages
[14:39] <DestinyAwaits> is there any way around
[14:39] <fuorviatos> Do you have any clue why in my TTy I can't scroll down and up with the standard combination shift+pgup, down?
[14:39] <jozefk> it doesn't really delete the lines just giving the output in terminal
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> DestinyAwaits:  so what do you want this 'special' folder to appear as then? You just want it totally hidden?
[14:40] <jozefk> is there something else instead of -e ?
[14:40] <cheater99> ok. makes sense, thanks.
[14:40] <sampe> Vigo: I need to look for the config file on the USB installer
[14:40] <Guest63100> ciao ce qualcuno
[14:40] <erUSUL> jozefk: gnu sed can modify the file inplace if you use -i
[14:40] <erUSUL> !it | Guest63100
[14:40] <bastid_raZor> drizzt_: you don't know how to set them correctly.
[14:40] <Vigo> sampe: Yes there are, you can get Grub2 or AptOnCD or look at the config on the installer medium.
[14:40] <jozefk> -i? ok thanks
[14:41] <DestinyAwaits> i dont want to hide that folder in any way and i also want that folder to behave as ordinary also
[14:41] <drizzt_> bastid_raZor, does sudo care about permissions?
[14:41] <DestinyAwaits> like other folders
[14:41] <sampe> But during a fresh install It sounds strange that Grub should be failing?
[14:41] <sampe> Vigo: But during a fresh install It sounds strange that Grub should be failing?
[14:41] <erUSUL> jozefk: another option is using a temp file « sed -e '/word/d' < file > file.tmp && mv file.tmp file »
[14:42] <DestinyAwaits> yes it is very strange that grub failed on fresh install
[14:42] <jozefk> erUSUL, with -i sed says no input file :D
[14:42] <DestinyAwaits> it might be due to improper installation of the OS
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> DestinyAwaits: i dont see how what you want is not handled by  the 'encfs' .
[14:42] <Vigo> sampe: Could be the MBR got splooged or corrupted during some process. Or it could be a BIOS setting, they are sorta related.
[14:42] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: I have a problem that the Ubuntu installation fails to boot (probably during kernel load) but don't have a clue what the problem is.
[14:43] <sampe> Vigo: the boot is failing even if I'
[14:43] <sampe> Vigo: .. Im trying to boot from a CD or an USB (with no HDD attached) so I dont think thats the problem,
[14:43] <DestinyAwaits> i think you must kind of edit the boot menu that might work for you
[14:43] <erUSUL> jozefk: sed -i '/word/d' < file
[14:44] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: Yes that is the options I'm trying to get some hints on how to change to get the installation to boot
[14:44] <DestinyAwaits> refer docs ubuntu
[14:44] <Vigo> sampe: If installer 'hangs' then is usually a configuration or setting in BIOS or a corrupted Boot Loader, MBR/Lilo/Grub etc. ,,
[14:44] <jozefk> yes erUSUL, it says no input files
[14:44] <abuayyoub> Can someone help me? Is anyone familiar with the program NZBget
[14:44] <bastid_raZor> drizzt_: yes
[14:45] <DestinyAwaits> Vigo, yes you are right
[14:45] <sampe> Vigo: ok, I'l try to look into my options in bios then,
[14:45] <DestinyAwaits> the boot loader is corrupted
[14:45] <erry> I just made a usb startup disk
[14:45] <jozefk> erUSUL, I think it's just like this: sed -i '/word/d' filename
[14:45] <erry> but when trying to boot from it i get the error BOOTMGR is missing
[14:45] <sampe> Vigo: they are "Load bios defaults" but maybe something is messed up anyway
[14:46] <removefromhere> hello, plug and play is not working for me in ubuntu 10.04, can aynone help me?
[14:46] <Vigo> That has been my experiences,
[14:46] <DestinyAwaits> so Dr_Willis are you aware of anything like this
[14:46] <Vigo> sampe: Defaults is usually the wrong setting.
[14:46] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: How can it be corrupted if I have tried both from a USB and a CD and the USB-pendrive was working to do an install on another machine
[14:46] <sampe> Vigo: Great :)
[14:46] <DestinyAwaits> or anyone have any idea of it
[14:46] <slow-motion> bbl
[14:46] <sampe> Vigo: then it's just to figure out which default setting I need to change ;)
[14:47] <erUSUL> jozefk: 15:43 < erUSUL> jozefk: sed -i '/word/d' < file
[14:47] <jozefk> it not works with "<"
[14:47] <erry> Hi
[14:47] <erry> i made a usb disk with ubuntu but i cant boot
[14:47] <DestinyAwaits> sampe, i mean to say that corruption can also occur when the copying of grub did not took place in a right way
[14:48] <jozefk> it works without "<" thanks erUSUL
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> DestinyAwaits:  im still not sure on how  what you are wanting differes from what i am reading about 'encfs'
[14:48] <Vigo> sampe: Is normally, Boot Device, i.e. USB us First Boot Device or CDxx1347000 is First Boot Device, and so on..
[14:48] <drizzt_> erry, BIOS may not support booting from USB
[14:48] <erry> drizzt_, it does but it says BOOTMGR is missing
[14:48] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: but the problem occurs even before I can boot up the installation gui?
[14:48] <augdawg09> Drizzt_: mine does. i dont know about other versions though
[14:49] <slow-motion> re
[14:49] <DestinyAwaits> sampe, see grub is equally the part of your boot up process
[14:49] <sampe> Vigo: The HDDs are normally the first boot device but after disconnecting them it's only the USB left to boot from
[14:49] <jack__> hi can you help? i need to make gimp pressure sensitive on my hp tablet (tx2530ea).  Does anyone know how?
[14:50] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: Yes so the question if it is grub or the kernel that fails
[14:50] <augdawg09> sorry, jack_, im not sure.
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> jack__:  last time i messed with a tablet. i had to configure that in the gimp settings somewhere. (2 yrs ago)
[14:50] <DestinyAwaits> sampe, grub and kernel are the part of booting process
[14:51] <jack__> Dr Willis do you remember how?
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> jack__:  load gimp.. look in its settings.. play with them till it works.
[14:51] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: Yes that is why it should be one of them ;)
[14:51] <jack__> cheers
[14:51] <Vigo> sampe: Maybe here:> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/pre-install-bios-setup.html
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> jack__:  thers been so many changes to gimp and how X handles input devices in the last few years..   it would take me time to figure it out.
[14:51] <frxstrem> where can I get new color schemes for gedit?
[14:52] <LouisJB> hi, any advice on how to troubleshoot a Ubuntu 10.04 that has suddenly stopped me being able to login?
[14:52] <sampe> Vigo: perfect, just what I was looking for
[14:52] <DestinyAwaits> sampe, if you are planning to build somthing and the base is not strong them whole thing gets down
[14:52] <EvilGuru> My LVM problem appears to be that the root volume is not getting activated on boot. Hence it does not exist and I get dumpbed to an initramfs prompt.
[14:52] <jack__> im gonna go an have play and see what happens
[14:52] <DestinyAwaits> sampe, grub and kernel are the part of loading the system
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> LouisJB:  see if you can login via the console for starters
[14:53] <loewi> jack__: try in gimp: preferences Input devices - configure extended input devices, your input device, pressure
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> LouisJB:  if its logging in then X crashing back to GDM - thats different then not being able to 'login' at all
[14:53] <LouisJB> Dr_Willis: you mean select xterm from the menu ?
[14:54] <aeon-ltd> solution - 'buy' photoshop
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> LouisJB:  no.. i mean use the CONSOLES - alt-ctrl-f1
[14:54] <DestinyAwaits> sampe, if grub was not configured properly then boot procedure somehow fails
[14:54] <Morgoth> hi !
[14:54] <DestinyAwaits> sampe,  do you have ubuntu cd with you
[14:54] <Vigo> DestinyAwaits: Right.
[14:54] <sampe> Vigo: I managed to get the GUI to load and have now started the installation to a HDD, hope it works, thanks for all help!
[14:55] <LouisJB> alt-ctrl-f1, from the login screen?
[14:55] <sampe> DestinyAwaits: Se above message to Vigo...
[14:55] <gunnarahlberg> Hi I have trouble with my keybindings. I can't find where I defined that Ctrl + u is bound to start a shell window. Im grepping and grepping, cant find it
[14:55] <Vigo> Sweet
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> LouisJB:  alt-ctrl-f1 throguh F6 ghets to the consoles from most anywhere.. alt-cttl F7  (or F8) +  get back to the GDm login
[14:55] <sasuke> hi.
[14:55] <sampe> Vigo: It could have been the PVAP mode which was enabled by defailt...
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> gunnarahlberg:  well it dosent start a shell window here..
[14:56] <sasuke> does someone know if there is a possibility to use rsync with a feature like -newer (from "ls") ?
[14:56] <abuayyoub> Hi, I'm having problems with a program called NZBget, I can't seem to get my NZB's to queue and it is not unrar or Par2, can someone help me?
[14:56] <gunnarahlberg> Dr_Willis: great, than you are able to use Emacs.
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> gunnarahlberg:  gunnarahlberg  i perfer vi. :)
[14:56] <augdawg09> does anyone know why ubuntu will not switch virtual desktops?
[14:56] <LouisJB> Dr_Willis: Ok, I can't get past the login screen but I'd try that, except it's virtuallised under a mac and so I cant get those keys pressed, will see if there\s a way
[14:56] <Vigo> sampe: Ahhhh..that Default Enable is usually an incorrect setting for most *nix installs.
[14:57] <gunnarahlberg> Dr_Willis: I used to prefer vi. Then came lisp
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> LouisJB:  no idea then other then to suggest trying to reboot to recovery mode and see if you can login
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> gunnarahlberg:  i run from lisp. :)
[14:57] <sampe> Vigo: yeap, now the installating is running as expected...
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> gunnarahlberg:  i run from ((((((lisp)))))). :)
[14:57] <jack__> Dr Willis  thatnks Ive got it sorted Brill!
[14:57] <gunnarahlberg> lol
[14:57] <craigbass1976> runlevels are different than I'm used to in Ubuntu.  How do I get apache to start at boot?
[14:57] <sampe> Vigo: Thanks again, now I need to do some other things. bye.
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> gunnarahlberg:  i tyhink the only time i really twiddled with lisp was in the 'sawfish' window manager
[14:58] <LouisJB> Dr_Willis: ok got in via console, still not sure what might have broken the graphical login
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  if its installed.. it should be doing so
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> LouisJB:  try 'startx' and see if it works
[14:58] <joon> Dr_Willis: FP is coming (again)
[14:58] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, it hasn't since I went from jaunty (or maybe karmic) to lucid
[14:58] <Vigo> sampe: Than I thank you and I thank DestinyAwaits and hope that you have a fun day and please report or post such things to the forums.
[14:59] <LouisJB> ahhh, think I see what's up, PATH is missing
[14:59] <sampe> Vigo: sure will
[14:59] <LouisJB> where is vi / vim normally?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  it does for me..  but i did a clean install..
[14:59] <DestinyAwaits> Vigo, thats alright
[14:59] <nesbitt> LouisJB: have you tried $whereis vim ?
[14:59] <joon> hello erveryone
[14:59] <AlexWasTaken> my ubuntu 10.04 64bit failed to boot the other day.  i (eventually..skipping an hour or so of googling and booting live disks etc) used grub to boot using the previous version of the kernel and it was all fine except for 3d. i installed the drivers again and that was fine, then i booted back into the latest kernel, reinstalled the drivers there too and that was also fine.  wtf?  i don't even think there was a new kernel release recently.  
[15:00] <AlexWasTaken> any idea why this coudl have happened?
[15:00] <hume> hi.... what happened to maemomapper in maemo 5, on the N900?
[15:00] <joon> i just have a silly question:
[15:00] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, Well, I'm back to square one then.  I believe I make a sym link in the apropriate /etc/rc... directory to /etc/init.d/apache2 , but I'm not sure which rc I do it in
[15:00] <LouisJB> not sure whereis works, due to missing path
[15:00] <nesbitt> oh
[15:00] <joon> what's the difference between tmp/**/* and tmp/*/*  ?
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  i got a link in /etc/rc2.d pointing to apache2
[15:01] <nesbitt> my system haz vi in /usr/bin/vi
[15:01] <Vigo> I am gonna find a fun game to play now, Thank you all and have fun!
[15:01] <erUSUL> joon: in bash4 ** expands recursively
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  most everything is in rc2 or handled by upstart in /etc/init
[15:01] <joon> ah, i see, thanks erUSUL!
[15:01] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, K00, or S20 ?  I'm wonderign if that's the difference
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  /etc/rc2.d$ ls -l S91apache2
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2010-05-01 03:29 S91apache2 -> ../init.d/apache2
[15:01] <erUSUL> joon: no problem
[15:02] <blashyrkh> does anyone one know where i can find the maps for teeworlds?
[15:02]  * DestinyAwaits guys please tell me is there any way round to create a locked and undeletable folder in ubuntu.
[15:02] <blashyrkh> i mean the preinstalled ones
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> blashyrkh:  fire up synaptic. search for teh game. check the 'details' to see what files are installed where
[15:03] <AlexWasTaken> can anyone help me?
[15:03] <LouisJB> Dr_Willis: it's in /usr/bin - well think it should be fixed now, PATH was broken due to settings in /etc/environment - ooops, thanks for the help
[15:03] <DestinyAwaits> AlexWasTaken, whats the problem
[15:04] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, I think that was the difference (according to the README that was staring me in the face the whole time) and now I'm rebooting to see.  Thanks
[15:04] <erUSUL> AlexWasTaken: there was a kernel upgrade and a xserver upgrade too. both can mangle a hand made graphic drivers install
[15:04] <erUSUL> AlexWasTaken: so you have to reinstall the drivers everytime that happens
[15:05] <aziyuu> hello ther
[15:05] <aziyuu> i can't find this package : php-pear-DB
[15:05] <erUSUL> !find pear
[15:05] <aziyuu> on ubuntu 10.04 what  i have to do ?
[15:06] <erry> Well
[15:06] <erry> im trying to boot from usb
[15:06] <erry> can i disable the quiet and splash modes
[15:06] <erry> cz i think it gets stuck
[15:06] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, good to go.  Thanks again.
[15:06] <erry> so is there a way to change the boot command so it doesnt use quiet
[15:06] <DEG12> aziyuu: What do you mean?
[15:07] <craigbass1976> Happy Father's Day everyone.  Get out of the chat and go play with your kids, or call your dad.
[15:07] <aziyuu> i, mean that i need that package php-pear-DB
[15:07] <erUSUL> !info php-db | aziyuu
[15:07] <aziyuu> when i do apt-get  install php-pear-DB
[15:07] <technikfreak> hello together i have installed the xubuntu 10.04 and some programs start automatically but i didn't ocnfigred anything (for example skype and pdigin) where i coudl disabke this beahvior?
[15:07] <aziyuu> it says can't find
[15:07] <erUSUL> aziyuu: is php-db
[15:08] <carneiro> aziyuu: did u do apt-get update
[15:08] <carneiro> ?
[15:08] <aziyuu> no let me check
[15:08] <erUSUL> erry: press shift to show the grub menu. in that screen there are instruction on how to enter edit mode ( press e iirc)
[15:09] <erry> ok
[15:09] <erry> My capsolock is going off and on
[15:09] <erry> is that ok?
[15:09] <fuyao> where is the xubuntu support channel?
[15:09] <aziyuu> yeah correct working
[15:09] <aziyuu> now
[15:09] <klan> fuyao
[15:09] <aziyuu> thanks
[15:09] <erUSUL> erry: only caps lock ? or all the keyboard leds ?
[15:09] <carneiro> aziyuu : np
[15:09] <klan> xubuntu is ubuntu with xface
[15:10] <erry> erUSUL, its a laptop and it only has a capslock let
[15:10] <erry> led*U
[15:10] <fuyao> so i can ask question about xubunttu here?
[15:10] <frxstrem> fuyao: #xubuntu?
[15:10] <erUSUL> fuyao: #xubuntu here
[15:10] <fuyao> oh ok
[15:10] <erUSUL> erry: that means a kernel panic ... the BSOD of linux
[15:10] <AlexWasTaken> erUSUL: really? didn't know that.  i do install the drivers by hand.  so i missed a kernel upgrade recently then? this hasn't happened before.
[15:10] <erry> erUSUL, gereat
[15:10] <erry> erUSUL, im in the very first screen again. Shioft isnt showing it
[15:11] <erry> shidt*
[15:11] <erry> shift*
[15:11] <rohitnikocool> hi ubuntu
[15:11] <frxstrem> how do you install new gedit color schemes?
[15:11] <AlexWasTaken> i guess i'm lucky i) i had a live disk to research this, ii) i had an older kernal in my grub menu. because without an older, working kernel i wasn't getting as far as the logon screen to actually install the driver
[15:12] <erUSUL> AlexWasTaken: you allways can try to boot into recovery mode
[15:12] <erry> erUSUL, so how do i get to change the boot options?
[15:12] <erUSUL> AlexWasTaken: and having at leat two kernels in grub is a good idea all around; just in case
[15:12] <rohitnikocool> Can any one tell me how to install GDM industrail II theme in ubuntu 9.10(KK),i am new to ubuntu.
[15:13] <erUSUL> erry: if you can not make the grub menu to show up the only option is from a livecd ....
[15:13] <aziyuu> i can't this package too ysql-server
[15:13] <bastid_raZor> frxstrem: http://live.gnome.org/GtkSourceView/StyleSchemes    and http://github.com/mig/gedit-themes
[15:13] <erry> erUSUL, i put the livecd in a usb
[15:13] <erry> erUSUL, my netbook has no dvd drive
[15:13] <carneiro> aziyuu : it is mysql-server
[15:13] <erUSUL> erry: it is the same
[15:14] <erry> erUSUL, ok im there
[15:14] <erry> i try to try ubuntu w/o changes and it panics
[15:14] <frxstrem> bastid_raZor: ok, thanks
[15:14] <erry> can i edit the commands so it boots w/o the splash so i see what happens?
[15:14] <rohitnikocool> I want to install the GDM industrial theme in ubuntu 9.10.Plz Help!
[15:14] <erry> nvm i found it
[15:14] <erry> edit edit, disabled quiet
[15:15] <erry> erUSUL, Setting session limits
[15:15] <erry> erUSUL, after that, it panics
[15:15] <DEG12> rohitnikocool: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89211
[15:15] <erUSUL> erry: you can mount the ubuntu partition and chroot there to edit hard disk's /etc/default/grub
[15:15] <erUSUL> erry: and run update-grub
[15:15] <erry> erUSUL, you dont get it
[15:15] <erUSUL> !grub2 | erry
[15:15] <erry> erUSUL, im NOT running ubuntu on my netbook im trying to get it
[15:16] <erry> erUSUL, the live cd panics after trying to set session limitd
[15:16] <erUSUL> erry: you said you are in the livecd in your netbook ?
[15:16] <erry> erUSUL, yes, it panics after trying to set session limits
[15:16] <erry> so i cannto install ubuntu
[15:16] <erUSUL> erry: ok; so the livecd panics too ? in the livecd main screen pressing f6 lets you add boot options iirc
[15:17] <erUSUL> !boot | erry
[15:17] <erry> erUSUL, sorry, "sensors" limits
[15:17] <erry> erUSUL, yes, i changed them. Idisabled splash and quiet
[15:17] <erry> erUSUL, i got the text-only boot output it panics after setting sensors limits
[15:17] <erUSUL> erry: you can try acpi=off
[15:17] <erry> ok
[15:17] <erry> lemme try that
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> rohitnikocool:   theres been changes to gdm in the last 2 (i think) releases its now gdm2. so older themes wont work with it.
[15:19] <erry> erUSUL, i think it paniced again
[15:19] <erry> its not blinking the capsllock led this time but it seemsstuck and doesnt respond to keypresses
[15:19] <erry> and the usb light is always on
[15:20] <erUSUL> erry: i would try with another version of ubuntu or with the alternatecd ...
[15:20] <erry> erUSUL, alternate cd? Isn't that just text-based install?
[15:20] <erUSUL> erry: yes
[15:20] <erry> erUSUL, the thing is, i tried installing via wubi and it panicked
[15:20] <erUSUL> !alternate
[15:20] <erry> erUSUL, so i doubt the installation would work anyway
[15:21] <DEG12> erry: I'd try the alternate also
[15:21] <erry> DEG12, ok
[15:21] <DEG12> Alternate cd's have helped me a lot in the past
[15:21] <erry> but i dont see the difference. Wubi doesnt work. livecd doesnt work. why should the alternate cd work
[15:22] <NetSnail_> ｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀｀
[15:22] <erry> NetSnail_, `
[15:22] <NetSnail_> sorry
[15:22] <erry> well lemme try debian
[15:22] <DEG12> Erry: no idea. I am not that technical. I only know it often works for me
[15:22] <erry> i have a lot of distros here
[15:22] <erry> one will work ^^
[15:22] <DEG12> :)
[15:23] <Traveler> hi all, how can i have a normal size mouse? default is super small
[15:24] <DEG12> Apperance - theme - adjust - mouse
[15:24] <DEG12> free translation ;)
[15:24] <Zolomon> That's some awesome CG! http://tiny.cc/livingdinosfound
[15:26] <Traveler> no efect
[15:27] <erry> ill try knoppix next
[15:28] <erry> since its live and i can see if it works before i install unlike debian
[15:28] <DEG12> traveler: no effect?
[15:28] <Traveler> mouse is small still
[15:29] <lana> how to Synchronizing my windows mobile ?
[15:30] <DEG12> traveler: strange. Try the red mouse pointer
[15:31] <steffan> hi. how do I enable the notice in the motd when logging in via SSH that shows how much CPU is in use, how many packages need to be upgraded, etc?
[15:32] <seb_> hey people, how do u start making games under linux?
[15:32] <Traveler> i did but nothing
[15:32] <Traveler> i loged out now
[15:32] <Traveler> and see if works
[15:33] <Intranut> erry, r u looking for speed or ease of use
[15:33] <carneiro> steffan: i guess u have to use .bash_profile for that ..
[15:33] <erry> Intranut, speed
[15:33] <steffan> no, I think it can be done by default
[15:33] <erry> Intranut, well mainly something that WORKS firstly
[15:33] <DEG12> Traveler: Sorry works fine here. No idea what's wrong there...
[15:33] <Traveler> no change same mouse and same size
[15:33] <erry> cz ubuntu paniced in my netbook and wont start
[15:33] <erry> im not blaming ubuntu
[15:33] <erry> it's my netbook
[15:33] <erry> but yknow
[15:34] <sigmab3ta> hey guys. a question about grub. I have OS X installed on my computer, and it shows up as two options in the GRUB menu - "Mac OS X 32bit" and "Mac OS X 64 bit". of these, the 64 bit one is worthless and doesn't work. I'd like to just get rid of it from the menu. how would one do that?
[15:35] <carneiro> steffan:  are u referring to landscape ??
[15:35] <seb_> hello?
[15:35] <seb_> does anyone know any game irc channel?
[15:35] <seb_> i could join?
[15:36] <DEG12> seb: no sorry
[15:36] <wizard_2010> hello all after many hours 1 lol i got to install airmon learned how to use it and how to put it int0 monitor mode i would like to no how to run airmon-ng from the terminal as root sudo airmon-ng dont work thanks
[15:36] <carneiro> steffan: http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/landscape
[15:36] <seb_> i think there are not enough games in linux
[15:37] <IdleOne> !games > seb_
[15:37] <solkig> hello! i just upgraded to 10.4 and registered at ubuntu one and the installation seems to have worked fine.
[15:37] <solkig> but i can't upload any files, i only get this message after pressing "upload":
[15:37] <solkig> Ubuntu One
[15:37] <solkig> Server Error (500)
[15:37] <FloodBot3> solkig: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:37] <solkig> Unfortunately, we've experienced an error. It has been reported to the administrators and should be fixed shortly. Thanks for your patience.
[15:37] <solkig> Oops-ID: 1632appserver208
[15:37] <pengo> hi
[15:37] <DEG12> seb: http://nostarch.com/plg.htm ;)
[15:38] <coolkehon> does grub2 support booting off an lvm? I want to have /boot in an lvm
[15:38] <wizard_2010> hello all after many hours 1 lol i got to install airmon learned how to use it and how to put it int0 monitor mode i would like to no how to run airmon-ng from the terminal as root sudo airmon-ng dont work thanks
[15:38] <niteye> i can't install ubuntu because i have the newer ATI R5xxx card which causes problems, any idea when the ATI driver for ubuntu will be fixed?
[15:38] <pengo> i've mounted an smb:// address in nautalis.. is there an easy way to mount it properly? e.g. as /mnt/smb1 ?
[15:39] <wise_crypt> wizard_2010: sudo -i will get you #
[15:39] <Zwei> Hi, I stupidly deleted my google chrome icon, how can I get it back?
[15:39] <wizard_2010> lol sudo airmon-ng wont work
[15:39] <wise_crypt> wizard_2010: sudo -i << will get you root shell env
[15:40] <edbian> Zwei, We'll make a new launcher
[15:40] <wizard_2010> o right thanks lol
[15:40] <wise_crypt> np
[15:40] <wizard_2010> new to this terminal I can dos script need to learn this
[15:40] <Zwei> edbian: Ah, okay, thanks, I'll google that up.
[15:41] <edbian> Zwei, I'll help you! Where do you want this icon to be?  On the desktop?  ON the panel?
[15:41] <Traveler> mouse is same size and color even after reboot
[15:41] <Traveler> ubuntu is pissing me off
[15:42] <niteye> i cannot install ubuntu because i have a new ATI card that is unsupported yet, however if i install with the 'alternate' cd, is there already a restricted driver available that works with newer ATI (R5xxx) cards?
[15:42] <iceroot> Traveler: same for us with your language
[15:42] <wizard_2010> can someone write a run as root shell for airmon-ng :)
[15:42] <Zwei> edbian: On the panel. I just right clicked in the panel, clicked "add to panel" and then tried to look for chrome or google-chrome, it's not there...
[15:42] <wizard_2010> i haven't a clue about shell for ubuntu
[15:42] <edbian> Zwei, Make a custom launcher
[15:42] <xangua> Zwei: or you could just grab it from your menu
[15:43] <Zwei> xangua: It's not on my menu....
[15:43] <edbian> Zwei, Type: application, Name: Whatever you want, this is just what shows up
[15:43] <Zwei> xangua: if it was there, it'll be much less trouble.
[15:43] <guntbert> solkig: ubuntu one help can be found in #ubuntuone
[15:43] <edbian> Zwei, Then open up a terminal and type google-chrome and press enter.  I want to make sure the command is right.
[15:44] <edbian> Zwei, comment: again doesn't matter
[15:44] <bastid_raZor> edbian: that is correct.
[15:44] <Zwei> edbian: it's the correct command
[15:44] <bastid_raZor> edbian: Zwei the full path to it is /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome
[15:45] <wise_crypt> alt+f2 chromium-browser
[15:45] <solkig> thank you, guntbert
[15:45] <Zwei> edbian: Thanks, that worked :)
[15:45] <Zwei> bastid_raZor: Thanks for the full path :)
[15:45] <guntbert> solkig: Good luck :-)
[15:46] <edbian> Zwei, No problem! :)
[15:46] <wizard_2010> got it was sudo su will get me root in terminal
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  use sudo -s     is more 'proper'
[15:46] <iceroot> wizard_2010: dont use sudo su, use sudo -i
[15:46] <wizard_2010> whats the -s for then
[15:46] <iceroot> wizard_2010: but you dont need a root-shell
[15:46] <wizard_2010> i tired -i but give me all this options
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> or sudo -i :) i never can rember which one
[15:47] <wizard_2010> yea i need a root shell im a dos man :(
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  its all about setting up sane 'properties'
[15:47] <iceroot> wizard_2010: that is a stupid answer
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  that logic is illogical
[15:47] <edbian> wizard_2010, You're using dos on linux!
[15:47] <wizard_2010> i can write scripts but only in windows
[15:47] <iceroot> wizard_2010: being a "dos man" has nothing to do with needing a root-shell
[15:47] <Intranut> erry,  r u there
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:   time to learn some bash or perl or python, or other laungages then
[15:48] <wizard_2010> which one for a noob like me bash ?
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> learn them all eventually
[15:48] <carneiro> wizard_2010 : learn python
[15:48] <iceroot> wizard_2010: bash and python
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> spend an hr or 5 leraning bash basics.. then get into scripting if you want
[15:48] <wise_crypt> wizard_2010: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/dosbatch.html <
[15:48] <edbian> wizard_2010, bash is great!  Very native feel to it.
[15:48] <wizard_2010> ok I will google some sites on it and learn that then
[15:48] <erry> Intranut, yeas
[15:49] <wizard_2010> can someone point me to a good site to learn bash
[15:49] <iceroot> wizard_2010: and dont use a root-shell. this is a support channel but we dont like questions like "i was using a root-shell and my system is broken, how to repair it"
[15:49] <iceroot> wizard_2010: #bash  they have a great wiki
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> !bash | wizard_2010
[15:49] <wizard_2010> ill leave root shell out then lol
[15:49] <bihari> who is alive here
[15:50] <iceroot> wizard_2010: ok
[15:50] <edbian> wizard_2010, using a root shell for everything is like using a power washer to fill your water bottle.  Dangerous, and you're probably going to break something
[15:50] <iceroot> bihari: /n
[15:50] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/
[15:50] <bihari> iceroot?
[15:51] <iceroot> bihari: you was asking who is on this channel
[15:51] <carneiro> bihari: what is the concern ?
[15:51] <wizard_2010> bastid thank you for the link away for a good old read :)
[15:51] <wizard_2010> i'll be back a new man after this lol
[15:51] <bihari> nuthing
[15:51] <guntbert> !tab | wizard_2010 just a hint
[15:52] <wizard_2010> very nice lol thanks ubottu
[15:53] <erry> :/
[15:54] <struhevol> how do i get my pannel back
[15:54] <struhevol> like to default
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> struhevol:  right click on apanel. add new panel.. or
[15:54] <xangua> !panels | struhevol
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[15:55] <struhevol> sweet it worked
[15:56] <struhevol> anyone know how to change login screen
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> struhevol:  deopends on what you want to change about it
[15:56] <rooibos> I tried to set right-click on ubuntu macbook with xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Pointer_Button3' in rc.local, but it disabled my keyboard when i rebooted.
[15:56] <lana> Synchronizing windows mobile (samsung b7320) on ubuntu 10.04 LTS ? any body know how the step
[15:56] <Qubes> Anyone knows if there's a bug in Nautilus that makes transfering files through sftp extremly slow (8 KB/s), compared to scp in terminal (40 KB/s) ?
[15:56] <lana> Synchronizing windows mobile (samsung b7320) on ubuntu 10.04 LTS ? any body know how the step please
[15:57] <rooibos> fixed it now, but how do i set right-click?
[15:57] <Aldaron> Hi! I'm trying to do "apt-get install libxi-dev", but I get an error saying "libxi-dev: Depends: libxi6 (= 2:1.2.0-1ubuntu1) but 2:1.2.0-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed". What does this mean? Is there some easy way around it, or someplace I could read more about it?
[15:57] <lana> Synchronizing windows mobile (samsung b7320) on ubuntu 10.04 LTS ? any body know how the step please
[15:57] <hdon> dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/lib/tools.jar
[15:57] <hdon> anyone care to run that for me? :)
[15:57] <hdon> nvm, i'm being stupid
[15:58] <rooibos> i'm using a colemak layout. i wonder if that makes a difference
[15:58] <BluesKaj> !patience | lana
[15:58] <struhevol> like the look i downloaded some theme from the gnomelook.org
[15:58] <struhevol> but i cant install it
[15:58] <struhevol> i am stuck
[15:59] <struhevol> maby cuz i am using 9.10
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> struhevol:  if its a GDM theme - its very likely its for the OLD gdm. and not useable..
[15:59] <struhevol> yea i figured
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> which is why i asked what you wanted to change about GDM :)
[15:59] <struhevol> because they locked it or something for to make booting faster or something
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> you can chagne the wallpaper easially enough and tweak a few other things
[16:00] <struhevol> yea
[16:00] <struhevol> i see
[16:00] <struhevol> yea
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> gdm2 is a total rewrite.
[16:00] <struhevol> i know the walpaper is easy
[16:00] <FloodBot3> struhevol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> it is themeable.. but not as easy.
[16:00] <struhevol> i did not flood
[16:00] <struhevol> how can i get gdm2
[16:00] <struhevol> on my 9.10
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> You are using GDM2
[16:00] <struhevol> idk
[16:01] <edbian> struhevol, They re-wrote gdm and because of that features were dropped.  (It is much faster and lighter)
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> 9.10 and 10.04 both default to using the newer gdm  (qwhich we are calling GDM2)
[16:01] <Optimus55> I have direct rendering enabled with with s3 driver but I can't get compiz enabled, can anyone help with suggestions?
[16:01] <Pirate_Hunter> weird enough I have just lost the £ key on my server no clue how it happened, anyone knows where I can set it (en_gb uk keyboard)?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> Optimus55:  im not sure the s3 drivers can handle compiz or any real 3d either.
[16:01] <struhevol> so best bet is to downgrade
[16:01] <IdleOne> !locales | Pirate_Hunter
[16:02] <struhevol> if i want to do someting like that
[16:02] <Optimus55> Dr_Willis, even with direct rendering? Is there any way to swtich to software rendering?
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> struhevol:  Hmm> You going to downgrade the whole OS just so you can theme GDm? thats a little overkill.
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> Optimus55:  with 'S3' i think you are lucky it even boots up. :)
[16:02] <firefly_> hi
[16:03] <struhevol> i was just saying if i wanted
[16:03] <struhevol> thats what i had to do
[16:03] <struhevol> i was just wondering if there is a way around it
[16:03] <rudy> hoi
[16:03] <carneiro> f.
[16:03] <Optimus55> Dr_Willis, wow, why's that?
[16:04] <giuliano_> Buondi
[16:04] <recmajkemi> hi guys can i make my laptop as wifi hotspot ?
[16:04] <recmajkemi> to share connection
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> Optimus55:  the company has VERY VERY poor linux support if i recall correctly. (anyone else want to confirm this?)
[16:04] <guntbert> !it | giuliano_
[16:05] <PTBD> hallo. wie kann ich für das xfce ein deutschen wörterbuch server eintragen bzw. welchen? auf der wiki seite ist einer gegeben aber wenn ich ihn dort eintrage bekomme ich nur übersetzungen verschiedener sprachen
[16:06] <guntbert> !de | PTBD
[16:06] <Optimus55> Dr_Willis: okay thanks. not much i can do here
[16:06] <PTBD> oh sorry. I forgot, that this is the english channel
[16:07] <Guest21968> hehe PTBD
[16:08] <wizard_2010> im back think I will take to bash very well, im using nano but when i do the ctrl x it wont exit anyone help :)
[16:10] <guntbert> wizard_2010: does it ask you for confirmation because you changed the file?
[16:10] <wizard_2010> no it wont ask for that
[16:11] <wizard_2010> it does nothing
[16:11] <wizard_2010> i dont like to read i dont take things in if i see it i can do it
[16:11] <wizard_2010> so I use youtube to learn bash :)
[16:12] <guntbert> !enter | wizard_2010
[16:12] <guntbert> !who | wizard_2010
[16:12] <saji89> My ubuntu 10.04 system freezes all of a sudden, often, but not frequently.
[16:12] <westz> well hello there fellow open sourcers
[16:12] <saji89> westz, hello
[16:13] <westz> im approximately 3 days old to my Ubuntu
[16:13] <saji89> My ubuntu 10.04 system freezes all of a sudden, often, but not frequently. any way t solve this?
[16:13] <westz> get more ram
[16:13] <wizard_2010> guntbert, no it does noting when i do the crtl x
[16:14] <saji89> anybody?
[16:14] <westz> i told you
[16:14] <abhi_nav> i used mobile media convertor. but its not available for 64 bit ubuntu. which the good mp4 convertor 64 bit ubuntu?
[16:14] <oCean_> !who | westz
[16:14] <wizard_2010> saji89, I am running it on my new laptop with 3g ram works great
[16:14] <bihari> \:d/
[16:14] <saji89> wizard_2010, that doesn't solve my problem. :)
[16:15] <guntbert> wizard_2010: does you nano look like http://imagebin.org/101971 when you start it ?
[16:15] <westz> @saji  dont open as many windows then
[16:15] <wizard_2010> saji89, as someone said update the ram what you running
[16:15] <westz> so anyway who in here is a vet?
[16:15] <oCean_> westz: please stay on topic
[16:15] <saji89> westz, even if i open only one window that often happenson my laptop.
[16:15] <westz> my name is Westz not someone
[16:15] <AlexWasTaken> lol
[16:16] <wizard_2010> guntbert, yes it looks like that :)
[16:16] <saji89> any solutions anyone?
[16:16] <lucas-arg> hey, im on ubuntu 10.04 i want to block buttons layout to left so when i change themes it doesnt change location, is it posible?
[16:17] <westz> @lucas yes it is, look in the documentation
[16:17] <eacar> helllo
[16:17] <lucas-arg> westz: where can i find that info?
[16:17] <guntbert> wizard_2010: and when you press any of the key combinations mentioned on the bottom line - do they work? try ctrl+g
[16:17] <saji89> !layout
[16:17] <wizard_2010> guntbert, I will try that now :)
[16:17] <oCean_> westz: using only a part of another user's nickname will not hilight that message. Use <tab> completion when entering nicknames
[16:17] <saji89> !freeze
[16:18] <eacar>  
[16:18] <saji89> !screen freeze
[16:18] <wizard_2010> guntbert, nope that never worked tried ctrl r
[16:18] <westz> oCean_, thanx
[16:18] <AlexWasTaken> can you install graphics drivers from a command line?
[16:18] <wizard_2010> guntbert,  nothing happened
[16:19] <saji89> AlexWasTaken, anything can be installed via commandline.. :)
[16:19] <wizard_2010> alexander_, yes type lspic
[16:19] <edbian> AlexWasTaken, Yes :)  But you probably want more info than that.
[16:19] <sebrock_> what happened to webmin? its no longer in repo?
[16:19] <westz> i feel like less of a n00b now. ive been on for 3 days and i know you can do anything in terminal that you can do in the GUI
[16:19] <oCean_> !webmin | sebrock_
[16:20] <edbian> westz, Isn't it great?
[16:20] <westz> edbian, yeah it is
[16:20] <wizard_2010> westz, you running compiz on it
[16:20] <guntbert> wizard_2010: I don't know about your ability to work with computers: ctrl+g means: keep <ctrl> pressed while additionally pressing G - if that doesn't work try it with the other <ctrl> key
[16:20] <westz> wizard_2010, hell yeah
[16:20] <sebrock_> !ebox
[16:21] <AlexWasTaken> what happens to the UI part of the install?  i'm thinking of the ati radeon drivers. as i mentioned an hour or so ago, the other day my system failed to boot. trial and error showed that a previous kernel booted, and then i install the graphics drivers again, and then i could boot back into the most recent kernel.  i was wonder if, instead of booting an older kernel (from grub) i could boot into the most recent one in recovery mode then in
[16:21] <wizard_2010> guntbert, i know that mate lol I'm a MCSE for 6 years new to this but love it and want to learn more
[16:21] <blue_fox> morning room :)
[16:21] <guntbert> wizard_2010: ok, no offense intended :-)
[16:22] <westz> wait what is wizard trying to do?
[16:22] <wizard_2010> guntbert not a complete noob only to this lol
[16:22] <wizard_2010> guntbert, so what you think it might be then
[16:22] <guntbert> wizard_2010: do any <ctrl> combos work outside of nano? try ctrl+l  -- should clear your screen
[16:23] <westz> wats the default key assignment to minimize all windows?
[16:23] <wizard_2010> guntbert, this is what I have in nano #!/bin/bash
[16:23] <wizard_2010> echo "wecome...."
[16:23] <wizard_2010> sleep 1
[16:23] <wizard_2010> echo "how is your day so far?"
[16:23] <FloodBot3> wizard_2010: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <abhi_nav> when i try to convert to mp4 using vlc it give me this error "Streaming / Transcoding failed:
[16:23] <abhi_nav> It seems your FFMPEG (libavcodec) installation lacks the following encoder:
[16:23] <abhi_nav> MPEG AAC Audio.
[16:23] <abhi_nav> If you don't know how to fix this, ask for support from your distribution."
[16:23] <FloodBot3> abhi_nav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <abhi_nav> oh no sorry
[16:23] <abhi_nav> :(
[16:24] <abhi_nav> how to solve that vlc issue?
[16:24] <user01> what do you call {0..9}?  like [0-9] would be regex, what category does that one fall under?  not sure how to google it
[16:24] <westz> go get the FFMPEG GUI from the software center
[16:25] <abhi_nav> westz how?
[16:25] <westz> applications>ubuntu software center
[16:25] <drothli_w> Hi, I am wondering why I can not write without sudo to my external hardrive (ext4), fstab contains the options rw,users
[16:25] <guntbert> westz: ctrl+alt+d (see system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts)
[16:25] <abhi_nav> westz ok got it installing wait
[16:26] <nareshov> hi. is there an fix for the screen blanking out on a thinkpad x201 due to KMS?
[16:26] <edbian> drothli_w, The file permissions go by number not by name.  Where did this HDD come from?  Mac?
[16:27] <guntbert> wizard_2010: you script is not *very* important - just open another CLI and check if ctrl key combos work (like I suggested above)
[16:27] <guntbert> *your
[16:28] <wizard_2010> guntbert, ill try that now
[16:28] <drothli_w> edbian: it is gpt hdd, 3 partitions 2 hfsplus and one ext4, the ext4 was formated with ubuntu, what do you mean by file permissions go by number, rw was set in fstab
[16:28] <Alcohol176461> ok
[16:29] <westz> ok i want to configure terminal to boot with the combo shift+enter what do i type in the command box when i add it to keyboard shortcuts?
[16:29] <datz> hi, how do I see what the latest updates contain? (online)
[16:29] <edbian> drothli_w, So you nor any other user (root) can write to this hdd?  I mentioned that they go by number (as in UID number, (e.g. 1000 for root) ) because that is a common problem.  People think root is root on any system.  It is not root on fedora is 500, root on debian is 1000 it's not important though.  I don't think you have that problem.
[16:29] <guntbert> westz: gnome-terminal
[16:30] <wizard_2010> guntbert, I tired that open new terminal typed nano
[16:30] <drothli_w> edbian: I can write if I do sudo <commandstring>
[16:30] <wizard_2010> guntbert, done the same script tried ctrl and it never worked
[16:30] <edbian> drothli_w, So you have this ext4 partition mounted where?
[16:31] <edbian> drothli_w, We just need to fix the permissions, I'll show you.
[16:31] <guntbert> wizard_2010: no, just open the terminal, fill it with some text (type ls /etc) and then press ctrl+l - should do a CLS
[16:31] <drothli_w> edbian: I have mounted them to /mnt/extDrive/part3/
[16:31] <wizard_2010> guntbert, did it was all switches nothing ctrl does work on my computer
[16:31] <edbian> drothli_w, look at "ls -l /mnt/extDrive"
[16:32] <edbian> drothli_w, And please copy / paste the line about part3
[16:32] <bastid_raZor> westz: i just created it .. Add > name = gnome terminal ; command = gnome-terminal  .. then find gnome terminal in the list and click on it .. then press the shortcut keys you want.. ctrl  enter
[16:32] <wizard_2010> guntbert that never worked either lol what you think might be the problem about from me lol cheers
[16:32] <westz> ok another noob question: how do i change the color of terminal? i hate purple with a passion
[16:32] <Alcohol176461> a
[16:32] <westz> bastid_raZor, i already got it thanks
[16:33] <drothli_w> edbian: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 ....
[16:33] <guntbert> wizard_2010: your problem seems to be that the ctrl-keys are not recognized - please ask the channel about that - I have to leave -- Good luck :-)
[16:33] <bastid_raZor> westz: right click > Profiles > Profiles Preferences > background or colors
[16:33] <wizard_2010> guntbert, thanks for all your help mate
[16:33] <leenuks> i try opening up Software Sources but it won't open up and no applications  will install from the software center. how come? [ubuntu 10.04 i386, acer aspire 5732zg]
[16:34] <wizard_2010> channel seems like my ctrl is not being picked up in terminal can someone help
[16:34] <aziyuu> hello
[16:34] <aziyuu> i can't find some package with ubuntu reprosototries
[16:34] <wizard_2010> leenuks, try install from the terminal do sudo get-apt install then name of app
[16:34] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: type: xev    then press ctrl  do you xev see it?
[16:34] <aziyuu> i can' find :                 libtermcap-devel ncurses-devel
[16:35] <bastid_raZor> s/do/does
[16:35] <aziyuu> what do to ?
[16:35] <ssssss> I have downloaded a program that can not be installed. Now my girlfriend does not know how to use the shell at all. She uses Ubuntu to surf the web. That is pretty much all.  How can I create a shortcut on the desktop so that program starts automatically when she clicks on it?
[16:35] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, were would you like me to do this in terminal
[16:35] <leenuks> wizard_2010, i know it's just that it's my dad's computer and he's not a terminal-oriented person.
[16:35] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: yes
[16:36] <aziyuu> ssssss: an strage story lol
[16:36] <HeTaL> Excuse me. If I'm on a non-root user on ubuntu, how do I install something using apt-get?
[16:36] <HeTaL> I'm doing sudo apt-get install X
[16:36] <HeTaL> but when I put my password for the main user, it doesn't work.
[16:36] <aziyuu> well
[16:36] <aziyuu> i can' find :                 libtermcap-devel ncurses-devel
[16:37] <datz> hi, how do I see what the latest updates contain? (online)
[16:37] <datz> where^
[16:37] <duffydack> HeTaL, need to add yourself to the admin group
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> HeTaL: type groups .. are you part of the admin group?
[16:37] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, i dont understand what you mean i go to terminal typed in xev then after that hit ctrl nothing happen?
[16:37] <HeTaL> I have 1 user that is, the other that isn't.
[16:37] <HeTaL> I'm trying to install from the user that isn't
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: you hit enter after xev right?
[16:37] <datz> !updates
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> HeTaL: you can not.
[16:37] <datz> ubottu: updates
[16:38] <dekenx> Where should I file a live cd bug under?
[16:38] <HeTaL> bastid_raZor: I'm the owner of the computer. :P Is there really no way to do that even if I know every password on the computer ?:P
[16:38] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, ok a lot of thing came up in terminal
[16:38] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, dpgk-reconfigure console-setup did the trick, however, thanks for the link
[16:38] <bastid_raZor> HeTaL: use the account that has admin/root rights
[16:38] <EvilTrek> HeTaL: you need to go into the admin-grouped account and add yourself to the admin group to use sudo and things for it.
[16:38] <EvilTrek> er
[16:39] <EvilTrek> HeTaL: admin or root grouped account *
[16:39] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: when you press ctrl ... does xev register it?
[16:39] <HeTaL> EvilTrek: How can I do that from a termianl?
[16:39] <abhi_nav> westz i do. but when i click convert it just do nothing. pls help
[16:39] <westz> finally got my terminal un-purplified XD thx
[16:40] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, i get this KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[16:40] <wizard_2010>     keys:  4294967290 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[16:40] <wizard_2010>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[16:40] <wizard_2010> FocusOut event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5e00001,
[16:40] <wizard_2010>     mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear
[16:40] <FloodBot3> wizard_2010: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:40] <EvilTrek> HeTaL: I dont remember the commands offhand, you'd be better asking someone else.
[16:40] <abhi_nav> westz pls hlp
[16:40] <HeTaL> EvilTrek: Well, how about the gui?
[16:40] <westz> abhi_nav, have you been able to play those files? do you have the plugins?
[16:41] <abhi_nav> westz yes i  am able to. with vlc and with all player. only proble in winff conversoin
[16:41] <bricky> my linux keeps locking down more often is that due to my hardware failing, lol
[16:41] <ssssss> I have downloaded a program that can not be installed. Now my girlfriend does not know how to use the shell at all. She uses Ubuntu to surf the web. That is pretty much all.  How can I create a shortcut on the desktop so that program starts automatically when she clicks on it?
[16:41] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/452524/
[16:42] <wizard_2010> sorry for the flood, i know now lol
[16:42] <duffydack> HeTaL, either boot to recovery mode and drop to a terminal (giving you root) and use visudo or login as the root enabled user and add your other account to admin in the user groups tool
[16:42] <EvilTrek> duffydack:  he wants to know how he does that
[16:42] <oCean_> ssssss: it cannot be installed? But you expect it to work at doubleclick??
[16:43] <duffydack> HeTaL, EvilTrek do which.
[16:43] <ssssss> oCean_, maybe via a script that start the program?
[16:43] <EvilTrek> duffydack:  how to give his nonadmin user admin with GUI or CLI
[16:43] <oCean_> ssssss: if it can *not be installed* how would it ever work?
[16:43] <wizard_2010> ssssss, have it run at startup put it in that folder
[16:43] <duffydack> HeTaL, you obviously know the root password, so just logout, login as the other user of the system and use the gui
[16:44] <abhi_nav> westz i am waiting
[16:44] <ssssss> I think I will simply create a new menu item.
[16:44] <oCean_> aziyuu: maybe libncurses5-dev. search packages.ubuntu.com for files/packages
[16:44] <Cobalt> Hi, I've got a script that runs and occasionally outputs a string to stdout (Python script). I want to put that script in the background and disown it from the terminal I ran it from, and redirect the output to a file. I'm trying with this command but it's not working, can anyone tell me why? pythonscript.py & disown > "`date`".log
[16:44] <HeTaL> duffydack: Yes, I know. How do I use the gui to do so?
[16:44] <westz> i was pissing chill. im not an expert ive only been using Ubuntu for 3 days
[16:44] <resno> my machine looks like its frozen on booting and all the output text is red. and capslock and num scroll are flashing
[16:44] <oCean_> ssssss: still not sure what you mean by cannot be installed. If that is true, it will *never* run
[16:45] <Alexie> cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.30GHz w/ 512 KB L2 Cache]
[16:45] <Alexie> sorry
[16:45] <abhi_nav> !mp4
[16:45] <HeTaL> duffydack: I won't waste your time, I'll google it.
[16:45] <HeTaL> Thanks
[16:45] <HeTaL> Or use ubuntu's intuitive gui to find out
[16:45] <Cobalt> I just get a zero-length file.
[16:45] <duffydack> HeTaL, system/admin - users groups, unlock it, and add the user to the admin group.. its as simple as that
[16:45] <bastid_raZor> Cobalt: possibly put & disown at the end
[16:46] <Cobalt> bastid_raZor: Same thing.
[16:46] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: when you press ctrl it should register in xev and give you some output about it.
[16:46] <abhi_nav> ok. can anyone tell me how can i run 32 bit mmc on 64 bit ubuntu? which file to install? pls
[16:46] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/452524/
[16:47] <bastid_raZor> wizard_2010: no ideas here then. good luck
[16:47] <erjohan> is http://ubuntuforums.org down?
[16:48] <wizard_2010> bastid_raZor, thanks for the help mate Ill try a google if i find a fix ill let you know :)
[16:48] <EvilTrek> erjohan:  nope,  i'm there just fine.
[16:48] <ne7work> !flash
[16:48] <bastid_raZor> erjohan: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/  may help
[16:48] <EvilTrek> erjohan:  see this: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntuforums.org
[16:48] <bastid_raZor> erjohan: and it is up for me
[16:49] <resno> how do i start troubleshooting when a machine wont boot up?
[16:49] <Penguin_Pete> console colors - I have 8, I need 16. Any ideas? This is on a laptop
[16:49] <ne7work> hello all
[16:49] <ne7work> i have one problem with flash player..
[16:49] <ne7work> i go here http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html and i can't download flash player x64 from here?
[16:49] <westz> resno, sounds like you installed from a corrupt CD. did you do the checksum?
[16:49] <bastid_raZor> resno: remove 'quiet splash' from grub. look for possible errors
[16:49] <buppa_> The CPU usage in Ubuntu is INSANE! My Ubuntu is consuming 25-50% CPU usage when I watch .avi or .mpg files in VLC Player (or any other player) and when I browsing the web with Firefox or Epiphany web browser or when I click or drag the window in Ubuntu -- Anyone know how to fix this? (Im using Radeon HD 5770 graphic card with propretary drivers)
[16:50] <resno> westz: it was already installed and working. i installed something
[16:50] <resno> bastid_raZor: i see the errors, but its not making sense to me
[16:50] <westz> in that case, nice going
[16:50] <duffydack> ne7work, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[16:50] <ne7work> duffydack, i'm with 9.04
[16:50] <bastid_raZor> resno: then those errors are what you need to provide to the channel.
[16:51] <bastid_raZor> duffydack: ne7work flash is available in the 'partner' repository
[16:51] <abhi_nav> !ignore | abhi_nav
[16:51] <xangua> duffydack:  ne7work before install you need to do a sudo apt-get update
[16:51] <duffydack> xangua, forgot :)
[16:51] <peter__> hi
[16:51] <ne7work> and from where can i download flash player
[16:51] <ne7work> ?
[16:51] <ne7work> for 64-bit
[16:51] <resno> bastid_raZor: what should i mention, nothing sticks out as a notable error. i do see a call trace. one error: "panic occured, switching back to text consoloe"
[16:51] <ne7work> see here.. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[16:52] <xangua> ne7work: then manually add the PPA duffydack told you
[16:52] <ne7work> i don't see link for download
[16:52] <ne7work> you?
[16:52] <ne7work> on ubuntu 9.04 how to add..?
[16:52] <oCean_> Cobalt: try this script >> logfile 2>&1 & disown
[16:52] <duffydack> xangua, hes on 9.04
[16:52] <Cobalt> oCean_: I don't particularly want anything to do with stderr though.
[16:52] <bastid_raZor> resno: what changes you made are also important; the new program you just installed may be a concern. any error can be important
[16:52] <ne7work> duffydack, yes.. and on 9.04 how?
[16:52] <buppa_> The CPU usage in Ubuntu is INSANE! My Ubuntu is consuming 25-50% CPU usage when I watch .avi or .mpg files in VLC Player (or any other player) and when I browsing the web with Firefox or Epiphany web browser or when I click or drag the window in Ubuntu -- ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS PROBLEM? (Im using Radeon HD 5770 graphic card with propretary drivers)
[16:53] <ne7work> :(
[16:53] <xangua> so¿ the instructions are right there in the PPA duffydack ne7work
[16:53] <FoolsRun> Hi, I have kind of a specific question. I'm trying to use the new GoogleCL tools and I'm getting "Editing documents is not supported for gdata-python-client < 2.0". I downloaded and installed the latest version of gdata-python-client (2.something), but I'm still getting that message.
[16:53] <duffydack> ne7work, it might work if you add it manually, as jaunty.. its only an installer that downloads from adobe... which I guess would mean its not gonna work if adobe is down.. hmm
[16:53] <bastid_raZor> buppa_: just that little? some avi's i watch take over 80% .. some people fail at making avi's.. mpg's are horrible also
[16:53] <xangua> ooh isee, only for karmic and lucid
[16:53] <resno> i installed vmware 2 on my machine. i am getting error "atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program maybe trying to access hardware directly"
[16:53] <duffydack> not down, just not hosting it anymore.. *
[16:54] <buppa_> bastid_raZor, yes but in Windows XP the CPU usage is only 1-2%.
[16:54] <ne7work> and some ideas? :(
[16:54] <Penguin_Pete> console colors - I have 8, I need 16. Any ideas? This is on a laptop NOTE: text mode console, not gnome-terminal
[16:54] <ne7work> my sound card not work on ubuntu 9.04 too.. how to compile alsa :( ?
[16:54] <bastid_raZor> buppa_: Ubuntu is not windows. things run very differently.
[16:54] <duffydack> ne7work, I could just give it myself..i guess
[16:55] <bastid_raZor> buppa_: 2% when watching a movie.. i doubt that.
[16:55] <wireshark> i cant install media plugin and some radio stations i can't hear them ,could anyone help me?
[16:55] <Penguin_Pete> buppa, for one thing, Linux automatically adjusts CPU for load and apps.
[16:55] <duffydack> ne7work, any reason you arent using lucid?
[16:55] <buppa_> bastid_raZor, yes but its a waste of CPU usage, how is it with other distributions? Is the CPU usage the same for all linux dists?
[16:55] <oCean_> Cobalt: at least I think the disown should be at the end of the command. Ending up with empty file could be due to fact that (what we assume) output is actually stderr (like output from strace command). You could try my suggestion, just to see whether you get any logging in your logfile
[16:55] <ne7work> 9.10 is sucks and 10.04 too
[16:55] <duffydack> wireshark, what program yo uusing
[16:55] <ne7work> when I use 9.10 this stupid OS logout me..
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Penguin_Pete: windows can too. Cool'n'Quiet is used in windows
[16:55] <wizard_2010> ne7work, 10.04 rocks lol
[16:55] <bastid_raZor> buppa_: no idea, i use Ubuntu and nothing else.
[16:55] <Cobalt> oCean_: It's definitely not stderr, I checked without disowning the script, first.
[16:55] <abhi_nav> how can I run a 32 bit ap on 64 bit ubuntu? pls?
[16:55] <oCean_> Cobalt: ah, allright
[16:55] <ne7work> 10.04 sucs
[16:56] <ne7work> 10.04 sucks
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav: install ia32-libs
[16:56] <oCean_> ne7work: did you just come here to rant?
[16:56] <wireshark> duffydack:  can you open this??? ---->   http://www.redfm.gr/listen.php?category_id=42
[16:56] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, when I check in software center it says that it is already installed
[16:56] <wizard_2010> ne7work, well I am new to it all and I think its great :)
[16:56] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, shoudl i reinstall?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: you will have to install 32bit libs any of the apps need manually
[16:56] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, manually? how?
[16:56] <erjohan> bastid_raZor, EvilTrek : Except they are down for more ppl than me... :-/ They fail at canonical-gw.gwr.datahop.net
[16:56] <wizard_2010> abhi_nav, try to run it from the command line
[16:56] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, i want to install 32 bit mmc on 64 bit ubjuntu
[16:57] <Healer> hi all, how do i recreate a panel in xfce, if i removed both of 'em?
[16:57] <wizard_2010> abhi_nav, might not have a gui
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: then you have what you need just install your deb with --force-all option and it will install
[16:57] <ne7work> oCean_, i'm bulgarian my english is not soo good i just need help and i please for help..
[16:57] <abhi_nav> wizard_2010, mmc have a gui
[16:57] <EvilTrek> erjohan:  then it must be your isp's side, imo.  because its up for me and my server(s)
[16:57] <ne7work> i have problems with 9.10 and 10.04
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> !panelfix | Healer
[16:57] <ne7work> in 9.10 this 9.10 logout me..
[16:57] <xangua> Healer: xfce4-panel i believe, better ask in #xubuntu
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> !fixpanel
[16:57] <ne7work> without reason..
[16:57] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, ok i try wait
[16:57] <wireshark> ne7work:  what kind of problems?
[16:57] <wizard_2010> abhi_nav, can you not find the installed program whats the issue
[16:57] <ne7work> logout me without reason..
[16:57] <Cobalt> oCean_: That appears to work though.
[16:58] <wademurray> How do I wipe all Gwibber settings in 10.04? I've deleted the passwords out of "Passwords and Encryption Keys" and I deleted everything found when I ran "find ~/ | grep gwibber"
[16:58] <abhi_nav> wizard_2010, its looks that issue is solving. let me do. wait
[16:58] <wizard_2010> abhi_nav, ok
[16:58] <Healer> xangua, great thanks, that fixed it!
[16:58] <oCean_> Cobalt: might be due to the disowning part? Not sure..
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: make sure you md5 test all install isos and verify the CDs once burned. Makes a good install with less issues
[16:58] <erjohan> EvilTrek, Well maybe but since they (three ISPs) fail at a router that faces canonical that seems unlikely.
[16:59] <buppa_> bastid_raZor, why? when i run 3 x264 windows xp only consumes 25% cpu
[16:59] <Cobalt> oCean_: I know I get confused when I start piping more than one  thing at a time and trying to do something else.
[16:59] <erjohan> anyway doesn't matter much... Just hate it when rounting fails..
[16:59] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, using command it wll only install from database of aptget. but mmc is not there in ubuntu repository. it is in my home folder . then how to install?
[16:59] <frank01> come faccio a smontare un'applicazione dalla scrivania? Non me la fa smontare!!!
[16:59] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, i want 9.04.. and i want to install x64 bit flash player on ubuntu 9.04 :(
[16:59] <EvilTrek> erjohan:  the interesting thing is that me, my server in Germany, and my second server can all connect to ubuntuforums.org, so it narrows it down to either an ISP ban or your ISP is filtering you IMO
[16:59] <oCean_> Cobalt: haha, I recognize that!
[16:59] <duffydack> wireshark, Nope.   maybe it needs quicktime..
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: you will need a 32bit deb for what you want. You won't get it via apt-get
[17:00] <wireshark> no duffydack
[17:00] <oCean_> !it | frank01
[17:00] <wireshark> duffydack:  it needs the media plugin
[17:00] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, i have that 32 bit deb
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: the !flash factoid shows a ppa you can add to get the 64bit flash 10.0
[17:00] <bastid_raZor> erjohan: where does it fail again? i'm doing a traceroute to see which path my end takes
[17:00] <erjohan> erjohan: Indeed I can reach the forums from one ISP... But that one still uses canonical-gw.gwr.datahop.net so.....
[17:01] <wizard_2010> can anyone help with getting wireshark to pick up my wireless card
[17:01] <duffydack> wireshark, i tried it in chrome and firefox.. i have allsorts of media plugins installed..  find out which plugin it needs...
[17:01] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, on 9.04?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav: sudo dpkg -I --force-all filename.deb
[17:01] <erjohan> wizard_2010, does it pick up any card?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: I believe it has a jaunty repo on it, yes
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> !flash | ne7work
[17:01] <ne7work> acidchild, go to see..
[17:01] <wizard_2010> erjohan, nope
[17:01] <Alan502> Hi, i need some help, it shouldn't be too difficult. I'm trying to share the internet connection of my windows xp virtual machine (virtualbox) to my ubuntu host. I know it sounds weird because its normally the other way, but this is the only thing i'm missing to finally get rid of my windows partition!!
[17:01] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, go to see i go..
[17:02] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, and i can't see something else..
[17:02] <wireshark> duffydack:  you can't open this?
[17:02] <wireshark> nowhere
[17:02] <wireshark> ?
[17:02] <Alan502> Please :)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: if you go to the ppa page it will give you the lines to add the /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:02] <erjohan> wizard_2010, Try to run as root.
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> !flash | ne7work
[17:02] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, where it is ppp?
[17:02] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, whoohaa !!!!!! yes it done!!! thanks :)
[17:02] <edbian> Alan502, It should not possible to have a network connection in a virtual machine if the host does not have a network connection...
[17:02] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, i can't see ppa page
[17:02] <wizard_2010> erjohan, how can i do that via terminal;
[17:02] <ne7work> can you give me link
[17:03] <duffydack> wireshark, page displays but the radio applet just shows totem, and not playing
[17:03] <erjohan> wizard_2010, ? sudo wireshark?
[17:03] <abhi_nav> wizard_2010, thans for replying. my issue solved. :)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: make sure you have no other flash, gnash or swf-dec packages installed or they will conflict
[17:03] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, i'm sure
[17:03] <Alan502> edbian, it is. My virtual machine is connected via 3G modem to the internet. I know ubuntu's network manager supports 3G but it's very unstable, and it gets a lot better connecting it from a vm
[17:03] <zus> i've a 6 gig partition not used i left it on the count of a dualboot, i now prefer to use the space for root so i can have more room for virtualbox how can i add it safely to root (or home if thats where VB would require it)
[17:03] <wizard_2010> abhi_nav, glad I could help im only using this 3 days this channel is great for learning
[17:03] <wireshark> duffydack:  it's the same to me
[17:04] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, and i don't see ppa page can you give me link?
[17:04] <Alan502> edbian, so what i want to do, is share the 3G connection of my vm to my host :D
[17:04] <abhi_nav> wizard_2010, yah u r right.
[17:04] <erjohan> bastid_raZor, everyone passes through  canonical-gw.gwr.datahop.net, the ones that fail and the ones that can reach it..
[17:04] <edbian> Alan502, Oohh!  I see.  Very clever :)  I have no idea how to do that though :(  Good luck!
[17:04] <Cobalt> oCean_: Just not if I use the date command in there too. :S
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/64bit-flash-ppa.html
[17:04] <Cobalt> I'll just go with modifying the Python script.
[17:04] <Alan502> edbian, lol thanks :D do you know how to set up gateways on ubuntu though?
[17:05] <ne7work> okay
[17:05] <oCean_> Cobalt: oh yeah, I forgot about the date part...
[17:05] <LucidGuy> Is it possible to mount a NFS filesystem with specific file restcitions.  I have a directory thats locked down, yet when I mount via fstab it seems to aquire the file permissions on the server.
[17:05] <xangua> ActionParsnip: there is no package for 9.04 in the PPA
[17:05] <edbian> Yes but Ubuntu isn't the gateway here, windows xp in a virtual machine is.
[17:05] <ne7work> ActionParsnip, and where you see for 9.04
[17:05] <wizard_2010> erjohan, that did it mate thanks also i have a widget for cpu it goes up alot anything i can do it keep it down ?
[17:05] <edbian> Alan502, Also, I'm not sure that the windows xp machine is aware of (or on the same network as) its' host.
[17:05] <oCean_> Cobalt: I'd keep my redirecting and logging in the script.
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: some apps may not run right away quoting missing libs which you will need to put in /usr/lib32
[17:06] <SE> Hello... I want to know how I can expose a Ubuntu system running with in VirtualBox to outside world.
[17:06] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip, ok. I will.
[17:06] <Cobalt> oCean_: I won't need to redirect anything if I'm doing it in the script, I'll just need to disown it, and that should be fine.
[17:07] <Alan502> edbian, i googled a bit about it and it's possible to choose a "host-only" network in virtualbox. It creates a network between my host and my guest machine, i can already ping between them. I can't share the internet connection though :(
[17:07] <voidmage> is gwibber's couch db supposed to take up over 3GB?
[17:07] <wizard_2010> can I just wireshark in monitor mode to get data or would i have to use airmon-ng for that ?
[17:07] <erjohan> wizard_2010, For wireshark read this *very important*: http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/CapturePrivileges#line-68
[17:07] <edbian> Alan502, You need to tell the xp machine to share the connection.  Then you need to tell Ubuntu that it's gateway / router is your xp machine
[17:07] <Alan502> i feel that the very last an easiest part is left, lame i know so little about networks :P
[17:08] <kumar> can anyone guide me how to type commands for installing prozilla
[17:08] <mikelifeguard> How can I edit the first ~40 lines of a 13GB file without waiting for the whole thing to load into nano?
[17:08] <erjohan> wizard_2010, Got no clue about the cpu thingy..
[17:08] <Alan502> edbian, aha, i already chose "share internet connection" on the xp machine. But how do i set ubuntu so its gateway would be the xp machine?
[17:08] <wizard_2010> erjohan, Ill read that now thanks again cpu not an issue maybe normal for what I am running lol
[17:08] <edbian> Alan502, What is the xp machine's ip address?
[17:09] <vijay> helllo !
[17:09] <Alan502> 192.168.56.101
[17:09] <Alan502> edbian,  192.168.56.101
[17:09] <edbian> Alan502, open /etc/networking/interfaces   I'm not sure if this will work.
[17:09] <kumar> mr vijay can you help me in installing prozilla
[17:09] <edbian> Alan502, open it as root with a text editor
[17:10] <Alan502> edbian, ok ,it says auto lo
[17:10] <Alan502> iface lo inet loopback
[17:10] <duffydack> wireshark, ive inspected the php file a bit and it looks like the url for it is http://mfile.akamai.com/31680/live/reflector:30659.asx
[17:10] <vijay> i installed ubuntu10.04 on friend's pc ,everything was running fine but it hangs after 2-3 minutes of boot
[17:11] <edbian> Alan502, we're going to add another one.  auto eth0, iface eth0 inet static
[17:11] <vijay> kumar: i am not a pro:)
[17:11] <duffydack> wireshark, ive also tried to play it, not working..  the totem plugin is being used at least, so I guess if its not playing, the stream isnt working at all ?
[17:11] <wizard_2010> can i run wireshark to get data in monitor mode like i can in airmon-ng
[17:11] <Alan502> edbian, should i replace it?
[17:12] <sandking> hi
[17:12] <Alan502> edbian, done
[17:12] <kumar> can any one tell me how to use commandline for installing prozilla
[17:12] <vijay> ANYBODY KNOWS WHAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM?
[17:12] <wireshark> duffydack:  i saw the source code and i copied the strem link to vlc and it plays
[17:12] <wizard_2010> kubanc, sudo apt-get install then name of app
[17:12] <edbian> Alan502, It will look like this:  http://pastebin.com/wYrjcQbX
[17:12] <sandking> anyone know a good way to reencode several mp3s into one file? i used mp3wrap but i realized that my mp3 player (sansa clip+) doesn't do well with wrapped mp3s
[17:12] <wademurray> Does anybody know where gwibber keeps its configurations?
[17:12] <sandking> a good, easy and fast way :]
[17:13] <duffydack> wireshark, cool.  i only use smplayer....
[17:13] <vijay> than i installed ubuntu  9.10 ,but it also hangs after successful boot
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> wademurray:  check .config or other dirs in your home.  ls -r | grep gwibber perhaps
[17:13] <edbian> Alan502, You have to give yourself some ip address I'm not sure what's open.  Make sense?
[17:13] <SE> vijay: did you check the logs...? System-->Administration-->Log File Viewer.
[17:13] <Alan502> hmmm
[17:13] <edbian> Alan502, I'm not sure about the netmask either.  You might need 255.255.0.0
[17:13] <wireshark> duffydack:  but i cant understand why this doesn't play from the page using ff and chromium
[17:13] <Alan502> edbian, virtualbox's dhcp gives me an ip adress automatically
[17:13] <grumete> I have an AMD 64 processor, which means I should install the 64 bits version of ubuntu. I've done it before with older versions having as a consequences problems with flash player. Should I install now the 32 or 64 bits version of ubuntu?? Thank you!
[17:14] <Alan502> edbian, it also gives me a netmask
[17:14] <Alan502> 255.255.255.0
[17:14] <vijay> i did not have enough time to check for logs, because it hangs just after login
[17:14] <edbian> Alan502, Then do this: auto etho, iface eth0 inet dhcp  and scrape the other lines
[17:14] <wizard_2010> grumete, run 64 im using it running amd
[17:14] <edbian> Alan502, That makes it all easier
[17:14] <Aut0Exec> sup fellas
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> grumete:  not really many issues with 64bit these days
[17:14] <duffydack> wireshark, i just put that asx in smplayer, quite slow to cache, but it play
[17:14] <wizard_2010> grumete, it works great and i'm dule boot
[17:14]  * Dr_Willis would give up on flash befor giving up on 64bits..
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> hi there
[17:15] <duffydack> wireshark, maybe you need w32codecs installed
[17:15] <Alan502> edbian, auto lo|iface lo inet loopback|auto eth0|iface eth0 inet dhcp
[17:15] <edbian> Alan502, then try to restart networking on ubuntu, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   and see if it grabs an address
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> anyone hearing me?
[17:15] <wireshark> duffydack:  i installed them
[17:15] <duffydack> wireshark,  or w64codecs depending on your arch
[17:15] <edbian> Alan502, That looks good
[17:15] <wizard_2010> Aut0Exec, yes
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> k
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Aut0Exec:  yes.
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> great
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> nice
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Aut0Exec:  if we said NO what would you do? :)
[17:15] <Alan502> edbian, do i need to add the gateway line?
[17:15] <vijay> Se i do not what is the prolem on his pc but it is running well on my pc
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> i dunno
[17:15] <edbian> Alan502, dhcp does that for you
[17:15] <Aut0Exec> :(
[17:16] <wizard_2010> lol @ Dr_Willis
[17:16] <edbian> Alan502, So no
[17:16] <erjohan> How do I remove ecryptfs from a user? (I dont' need to move the contents just don't want it to be active)
[17:16] <edbian> Alan502, Didn't realize that windows would be a dhcp server
[17:16] <Alan502> edbian, ah ok
[17:16] <edbian> Alan502, yep!
[17:16] <vijay> he has also windows installed but there was no problem with windows
[17:17] <SE> vijay: login to command mode, and then go thru /var/log/syslog file.
[17:17] <grumete> alright thank you people.
[17:17] <wizard_2010> Dr_Willis, I was learning bash to I had a problem when I used the ctrl x nothing happen got any ideas so I can get back to it ?
[17:18] <westz> anyone got any idea of why my WIFI card on my dell isnt working?
[17:18] <vijay> what to see there, i am not a professional ,i have just switched from windows
[17:18] <wizard_2010> Westz you get the right driver install ?
[17:18] <vijay> SE; how to do that via command line
[17:19] <duffydack> wireshark, a660.l3168030659.c31680.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/660/31680/v0001/reflector:30659
[17:19] <wizard_2010> westz what make model you using
[17:19] <westz> i used the ntdisgtk to install the windows driver for it
[17:19] <wireshark> duffydack:  what is this?
[17:19] <vijay> SE: he has MSI motherboard
[17:19] <duffydack> wireshark, it was pointing to mms://a660.l3168030659.c31680.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/660/31680/v0001/reflector:30659 (mms)  so im guessing browsers needs to be configured for it..
[17:19] <duffydack> wireshark,  where the asx file points to
[17:19] <westz> wizard_2010, dell d610 with mini-PCI 1470
[17:20] <wireshark> duffydack:  if i paste this to vlc it plays
[17:20] <wizard_2010> westz running OS ?
[17:20] <duffydack> wireshark, does in browser too
[17:20] <westz> lucid
[17:20] <Guest70849> hi, i tried to remote my other PC with ubuntu on with Remote Desktop Viewer (VNC protocol), but all i got is still image not video. when i tried to remote my other windows, it was okay. tell me how to fix it?
[17:20] <wireshark> duffydack:  how?
[17:20] <edbian> Alan502, How's it going?
[17:20] <hdpb> Gwibber will not load for me.  Here is the terminal output... http://pastebin.com/HrJBhbqm
[17:20] <SE> vijay: if you are not comfortable using command line, may be you should use Log File Viewer(LFV) application to figure out what is wrong. In LFV, click syslog option and scroll to bottom to see most recent log activity.
[17:20] <duffydack> wireshark, i also got it playing in radiotray
[17:20] <Alan502> edbian, hmm i got some problems with virtualbox, give me a sec
[17:20] <hdpb> any suggestions?  It looks like a dbus issue...
[17:21] <edbian> Alan502, Take your time!  I just want to help :)
[17:21] <duffydack> wireshark, if you dont know about radiotray, try it, its really good.
[17:21] <Alan502> edbian, haha thanks :D there's such benevolent people here
[17:21] <edbian> Alan502, No prob
[17:21] <vijay> is that due to faulty kernel that drives the hardware because after it hangs i have to emergency shutdown
[17:21] <duffydack> wireshark, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/listen-to-radio-stations-in-ubuntu.html
[17:22] <wireshark> duffydack:  i have a screenlet for radio
[17:22] <vijay> Se how do i see log file of that pc which hangs just after login
[17:22] <westz> do you need special hardware for radio or can you do it with just wifi?
[17:22] <jrd0> using the propriety radeon drivers i cant enable compiz or else i have lag opening and closing windows etc, i am also getting screen tearing in video
[17:22] <duffydack> wireshark, ok.  well just linking to http://a660.l3168030659.c31680.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/660/31680/v0001/reflector:30659 plays that radio station.. job done.
[17:22] <SE> vijay: no idea whether it is due to kernel or not, sorry.
[17:22] <jrd0> is there another driver i should install?
[17:23] <K-rAd-> my dad got a 24" LCD for $5.  you just have to squeeze the enclosure, and it seems, the white output goes away
[17:23] <edbian> jrd0, There is radeon and fglrx   (fglrx is proprietary).
[17:23] <SE> vijay: if you are comfortable using command line, you can use vi to view /var/log/syslog file to figure out. otherwise, i am not sure what you can do.
[17:23] <jrd0> edbian, thats the driver im having problems with
[17:23] <wireshark> duffydack:  it's not that the point ...the point is to install the missing plugin cause i have problem to chromium with an extension
[17:23] <wizard_2010> westz check this out http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/b/direct2dell/archive/2008/10/03/linux-driver-available-for-dell-wireless-cards.aspx
[17:23] <edbian> jrd0, To try the other one simply modprobe <driverName>
[17:23] <sebrock_> LOL ebox sucks horse compared to webmin
[17:24] <edbian> jrd0, To see which is running lspci -k
[17:24] <jrd0> kk sec
[17:24] <Alkaizer> Could somebody please help I know it doesnt have to do with ubuntu but this is the only place i can think of. I have "mobile terminal" & "enhanced ctorrent" on my iphone and for some reason im gettin connection errors to my trackers and idk how to change setting. It is the same command lines as Linux version
[17:24] <vijay> thanks
[17:24] <jrd0> edbian, i will paste in query
[17:24] <wikiik> hi
[17:24] <edbian> jrd0, in query?  What do you mean?
[17:25] <grumete> guys, what's an alternate version?
[17:25] <wizard_2010> i use torrents what's tracker do
[17:25] <grumete> what's the difference between an alternate version of ubuntu and a desktop edition??
[17:25] <Guest70849> hi, i tried to remote my other PC with ubuntu on with Remote Desktop Viewer (VNC protocol), but all i got is still image not video. when i tried to remote my other windows, it was okay. tell me how to fix it?
[17:25] <duffydack> wireshark, browser needs to be told to use vlc plugin then, somehow.
[17:25] <K-rAd-> grumete, one is text based and needs less resources, the other is entirely graphical
[17:26] <kristof_> Does someone know a good guid howto install Asterisk-Gui on Ubuntu Server 10.04
[17:26] <wireshark> duffydack:  i installed it
[17:26] <sebrock_> wow, how can Ubuntu even include ebox over webmin... its night and day... everything with 10.04 has been way worse so far...
[17:26] <kanhiya> hello everybody
[17:26]  * erjohan hates bad routing... (as does about 2 million customers in Scandinavia right now)
[17:26] <K-rAd-> kristof_, may i ask what asterisk is all about ?  is it phone PBX type system ?
[17:26] <Alkaizer> wizard_2010 a tracker is basically the url that it connects to to find all the peers you need to connect to
[17:26] <wireshark> duffydack:  i am trying to solve this problem about two weeks and i cant solve this
[17:26] <wireshark> :(
[17:26] <westz> ok i downloaded that driver but ive got no idea how to use it. package manager doesnt automatically install it
[17:26] <grumete> K-rAd- so for my acer 4520 (laptop) which of them should I get?
[17:26] <SE> kanhiya: hi vijay!
[17:26] <kanhiya> how to configure resolution if it is not detected properly
[17:27] <K-rAd-> let me look at your original query
[17:27] <Alkaizer> Could somebody please help I know it doesnt have to do with ubuntu but this is the only place i can think of. I have "mobile terminal" & "enhanced ctorrent" on my iphone and for some reason im gettin connection errors to my trackers and idk how to change setting. It is the same command lines as Linux version
[17:27] <wikiik> from a time, the numeric keyboard doesn't work properly, even if the bloq num is active or not it works as it is inactive moving the mouse, any idea why this happens?
[17:27] <wizard_2010> Alkaizer, thanks just started to use it I use to pay for everything but with the way things are now i need to look after myself and not the record companies lol
[17:27] <kristof_> Ya K-rAd it is a PBX system, I worked with Trixbox before that is based on Asterisk an FreePBX
[17:27] <kanhiya> Se: you know my name
[17:27] <SE> kanhiya: System-->Preferences-->Monitors
[17:27] <SE> kanhiya: guessed it :D
[17:28] <K-rAd-> well how much memory do you have in it ?  is it bleeding edge video or common ?  best chance is for you to boot from a live cd, just to test it out
[17:28] <ian_> my 3D acceleration was working fine yesterday, but now it's not. In the meantime, an update included nvidia-current and nvidia-current-modaliases which I'm thinking may be responsible. Can I roll these back?
[17:28] <greezmunkey> wikiik: I have had kb failures here too, about all you can do is log out, and log back in.
[17:28] <HeTaL> Does ubuntu have good support for multi-monitor setups on ATI 5870?
[17:28] <hdpb> gwibber won't run for me on Lucid.  any suggestions?
[17:28] <kristof_> The thing is that Trixbox is based on Centos, I have Ubuntu
[17:28] <wikiik> greezmunkey, i reboot the system twice and it keeps failing
[17:29] <greezmunkey> wikiik: is it usb?
[17:29] <kanhiya> now that is the problem with my laptop, my laptop is able to provide resolution greater than 800x600 but there isno option greater than 800x600
[17:29] <duffydack> wireshark, seems theres a bug in chromium with mms streamss
[17:29] <wikiik> greezmunkey, it's strange because in the log in screen works well
[17:29] <duffydack> wireshark, http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-bugs/browse_thread/thread/3b6f092c6cc309f3?pli=1
[17:29] <wikiik> greezmunkey, it's wireless
[17:29] <kristof_> Are there Asterisk users over here??
[17:29] <Alkaizer> so i take it that nobody here know what im talking about or how to help
[17:29] <K-rAd-> i sure like restoring CTRL-ALT-BKSPC to kill the xserver.  that seems to be moved to the keyboard preferances
[17:29] <wildbat> !resolutoin | kanhiya
[17:29] <greezmunkey> wikiik: but it attaches via usb, right?
[17:29] <Alan502_> edbian: ok i'm on the vm now
[17:29] <wikiik> yes
[17:29] <kanhiya> wildbat: thanks
[17:29] <wikiik> greezmunkey, yes
[17:30] <greezmunkey> wikiik: you could try a differant usb port on the comp. I have heard that helps sometimes.
[17:30] <Alan502_> edbian: it didn't work though, do you think it matters that the interface virtualbox uses to connect the virtual machine and the host is vboxnet0 and not eth0?
[17:30] <kristof_> exit
[17:30] <duffydack> wireshark, http://listen.rbc.cn/ plays in firefox but no sound in chromiu,.
[17:30] <wildbat> !resolution | kanhiya
[17:30] <wikiik> greezmunkey, hehe, in fact i just unplug and plug it another time and works fine
[17:31] <greezmunkey> wikiik: there you go :)
[17:31] <Alkaizer> Could somebody please help I know it doesnt have to do with ubuntu but this is the only place i can think of. I have "mobile terminal" & "enhanced ctorrent" on my iphone and for some reason im gettin connection errors to my trackers and idk how to change setting. It is the same command lines as Linux version
[17:31] <wikiik> greezmunkey, thanks, i don't understand why rebooting the system it continues failing...
[17:31] <westz> wizard_2010, okay ive got this driver thing but package manager doesnt install it. where do i put it
[17:31] <westz> ?
[17:31] <edbian> Alan502_, That's the problem.  You have to create some virtual hardware thing (for the ubuntu machine) to connect to the virtual machine.  Try it with vboxnet0  I'm not sure
[17:31] <wireshark> duffydack:  this is chinese and i cant understand
[17:32] <Alan502_> edbian: ok, i'll change eth0 for vboxnet0 in the pastebin you gave me
[17:32] <greezmunkey> wikiik: get a couple of q-tips, and some rubbung alcohol, and clean the contacts thouroughly, that's the best answer I have for that sort of thing.
[17:32] <duffydack> wireshark, let chrome translate it then.. it should ask
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[17:32] <edbian> Alan502_, Good luck
[17:32] <wikiik> thanks greezmunkey for the suggestion
[17:32] <wikiik> :D
[17:32] <wizard_2010> westz drag it into terminal then hit enter
[17:33] <wizard_2010> westz, see what that does thats what i do when im stuck lol
[17:33] <wireshark> duffydack:  it doesn't play on vlc on ff
[17:33] <kanhiya> ubottu: i have checked that but after stopping gdm , i got a purple screen slipping in which i can't see anything
[17:34] <LucidGuy> I just noticed that my home directory had 755 for permissions.  Why would Ubuntu have that for default?  I changed to 750..  comments?
[17:34] <duffydack> wireshark, plays for me using mediaplayer (totem) plugin
[17:34] <Alan502_> edbian: i'll try making it static
[17:34] <edbian> Alan502_, k
[17:34] <wireshark> duffydack:  yes it plays now
[17:34] <wireshark> :)
[17:34] <blackscreen> i am new to xubuntu and just installed it on my Fujitsu Siemens Amilo L Series Fab-2 laptop. The graphical user interface does not work. I am at the console and whenever I execute startx the screen goes totally black and stays black. what can i do?
[17:34] <duffydack> wireshark, but there is no sound in chromium with it.. so chromium isnt perfect yet.. guess you`ll have to wait..
[17:34] <edbian> LucidGuy, What is the danger in allows others on the system to read / execute your files?
[17:35] <edbian> s/allows/allowing
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  does alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 get you to  the other consoles?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: maybe you or somone has been messing with chmod. I have mine as 600. Having some files in $HOME marked as executable may cause issues
[17:35] <hmw> How can I put a string into the clipboard with a shell command?
[17:35] <wireshark> duffydack:  could i talk you to prive?
[17:35] <Lalitha> I have installed scim. But i don't get any icon on the right corner of gedit ... how do i get that icon ?
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  theres some packages/tools in the repo that let you do that.. i forget its name however
[17:36] <unop> hmw, xclip
[17:36] <LucidGuy> I wonder 700 to all files would break something.
[17:36] <blackscreen> Dr_Willis: yes it does
[17:36] <hmw> cool. thanks a lot!
[17:36] <kanhiya> ubottu: i have tried ubuntu8.10-10.04 but did not get support for my graphic card,
[17:36] <ian_> do I have to restart X after updating nvidia-current?
[17:36] <edbian> LucidGuy, It would not (assuming you're the owner).  It might annoy others
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Lalitha: does it need enabling in gedit in the menus?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Ian_: I would
[17:36] <Lalitha> ActionParsnip, I am an ubuntu beginner
[17:37] <Lalitha> ActionParsnip, and i do not understand what you are saying
[17:37] <kanhiya> means i am unable to get resolution greater than 800x600 while using ubuntu
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  just a thought - does this laptop have some fn-SPECIAL keys taht toggle the external monitor/lcd>? I had a friend ages ago that for some ODD reason his laptop defaulted to the external monitor port.. he hit the keys to toggle the monitors and the lcd came to life.
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  other then that shot in the dark. check the X logs to see if any errors are being generated
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Lalitha: in gedit, flick round in the preferences, see if it needs enabling. I don't use gedit but I can suggest common sense
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  you do NOT hear any startup type sounds?
[17:37] <K-rAd-> i have an apple aluminum keyboard, for typeability sakes, i am not sure if i should select the JIS, ISO, or ANSI.  its north american.  wired aluminum apple keyboard
[17:37] <unop> LucidGuy, some people like having a ~/public_html directory that is served with apache mod_userdir ... and you need other read permissions on your homedir for that to function.
[17:37] <ian_> ActionParsnip can I restart without logging out?
[17:38] <duffydack> wireshark, sorry, bit too busy
[17:38] <Lalitha> ActionParsnip, I have been in every menu in the gedit
[17:38] <duffydack> wireshark, I dont have anything else to suggest
[17:38] <kanhiya> i have also tried open SUSE , it detects my graphic card well ,is there any way to use their X file in place of ubuntu file
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Ian_: restarting X will log you out so do it when it is next convenient
[17:38] <Lalitha> ActionParsnip, but there isn't any which talks about "scim"
[17:38] <ian_> thanks
[17:38] <blackscreen> Dr_Willis:  i am a newbie. i do not understand some thing you say. no startup sounds. how can i reconfigure the graphics?
[17:38] <wireshark> ok duffydack,,,i wanted to send you a pic
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Lalitha: that's all I got dude, sorry
[17:38] <K-rAd-> unop, might you point me to a guide that would allow a ubuntu user to host their own "godaddy" webserver on their ubuntu desktop ?
[17:38] <edbian> LucidGuy, Keep in mind that opening a folder means executing it.  Same is true with viewing a picture file or listening to a song.
[17:38] <greezmunkey> hmw: install xclip
[17:39] <splashote1> hi, can i make two shortcuts (keyboard) for one action?
[17:39] <daltux> do somebody master jetty? please msg me
[17:39] <hmw> greezmunkey: no. man xclip ;-)
[17:39] <wireshark> for a problem with chromium duffydack
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  you need to determine your video card/chipset for starters.
[17:39] <caldwell> can someone tell me if its possible to connect a xbox 360 to a laptop running ubuntu 9.10
[17:39] <greezmunkey> hmw: ok, then it's already there - cool. :)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Caldwell: sure, use a crossover cable
[17:39] <whatTurtle> l
[17:39] <edbian> caldwell, There is a package called ushare
[17:39] <hmw> greezmunkey: someone already told me about xclip. Thanks anyways!
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  the X log is in /var/log/ or in the users home dir. in the '.xsession-errors' file. i belive
[17:39] <wireshark> duffydack:  and others see this http://yfrog.com/86screenshotknp
[17:40] <kanhiya> i mean to say to replace x files of ubuntu installation with SUSE files
[17:40] <K-rAd-> caldwell, you need a tc capture card
[17:40] <K-rAd-> tv
[17:40] <caldwell> like easycap or a gamebridge
[17:40] <wireshark> duffydack:  when i try to open this station with ff it shows this message on vlc
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: you could as both are linux but it may go a bit crzy. Fun to try though
[17:41] <blackscreen> Dr_Willis: Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[17:41] <kanhiya> how to do that?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> caldwell: what are you connecting for?
[17:41] <whatTurtle> hi
[17:41] <kanhiya> i will write all these steps
[17:41] <whatTurtle> i have a question regarding the coreutils
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> blackscreen:  you may want to check the forums for those exact chipsets then. There should be some info on them. Theres some known issues with some of the intel chipsets. but thats about all i know on the topic
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> caldwell: connect doesn't mean much
[17:42] <caldwell> i want to use my laptop screen to play my xbox 360
[17:42] <whatTurtle> i found out that the coreutils used in ubuntu 10.04 are VERY old
[17:42] <wizard_2010> anyone got a torrent for heroes so16 I got a link for all sessions but its 21.6g lol
[17:42] <whatTurtle> the newest are the version 8.5
[17:42] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: tell me how to do that?:)
[17:42] <whatTurtle> but ubuntu uses version 7.5
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> caldwell: ok then you should have said that instead of "connect" which means very little
[17:43] <whatTurtle> is there a way to compile only some of the newest coreutils in a directory i specify manually???
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  torrent clients dont HAVE to download every file in a torrent.. you can select what ones to download from a torrent
[17:43] <whatTurtle> i know there is a way to use a directory i want with --configure --prefix
[17:43] <thune3> blackscreen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[17:43] <wizard_2010> Dr_Willis, how can i do that ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: copy the files to a removable device from suse, move them over and copy to the relevant place. Its not something I've done as I don't use suse
[17:44] <duffydack> wireshark, mabye its just links that start with mms that are the problem.  without it they play fine.
[17:44] <whatTurtle> but is there any way to compile only some of the programs (of latest coreutils) ???
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> wizard_2010:  learn to use your torrent client..  unselext the ones you dont want.. select the ones you do want.. its not Rocket Surgery....
[17:44] <LucidGuy> What about /etc  Why is it also 755?  Any harm in pushing 750?
[17:44] <whatTurtle> anyone?
[17:44] <wireshark> yes duffydack
[17:44] <wireshark> duffydack:  can i do something for that?
[17:44] <wizard_2010> Dr_Willis, ok lol
[17:44] <LucidGuy> Trying to harden this box a little, will have remote uses shelling in.
[17:44] <whatTurtle> hi wireshark
[17:45] <wireshark> hi whatTurtle
[17:45] <caldwell> srry i wanted to use my laptop screen to play my xbox 360 but i dont know what i need because on windows i could connect a easycap video capture device or a gamebridge but im new to ubuntu so i dont know what i need
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> whatTurtle: you can compile whatever you wish. Just install build-essential and you have a compile environment
[17:45] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: how to link them with ubuntu
[17:45] <whatTurtle> do you know  a way to compile individual programs from latest coreutils
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Kanhiya: depends on the file entirely
[17:45] <duffydack> wireshark, no idea...
[17:45] <whatTurtle> whatTurtle, i know to use configure --prefix but that compiles ALL gnu coreutils programs
[17:46] <whatTurtle> whatTurtle, i only what to compile newest md5sum executable ( which is said is faster than ubuntu version)
[17:46] <Pen> Need help. Where in "File System" of Ubuntu can I put files I need to hide from my dad because I'm not supposed to have porn on this computer......
[17:46] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: means i have to link every file that exists in a folder
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> caldwell: I can imagine the speed been a bit laggy for actual gameplay tbh. No idea personally but maybe someone has some tips
[17:46] <whatTurtle> whatTurtle, Sorry for being "aggressive"
[17:46] <duffydack> wireshark, for now, all you can do is use the playlist file to gather the actual stream url and use a dedicated radio player and add it to a list..
[17:47] <caldwell> ok thx for the help
[17:47] <greezmunkey> Pen: delete it and get a girlfriend
[17:47] <whatTurtle> so wireshark any ide /
[17:47] <whatTurtle> idea?
[17:47] <Alan502> HAHAHAHAHA @Pen
[17:47] <Pen> lol
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> whatTurtle:  it will proberly take more time to figure out how to compile just that one binary.. then  it will to actually compile them all. :)
[17:47] <Alan502> lmao
[17:47] <wireshark> whatTurtle:  on what?
[17:47] <whatTurtle> Alan502, Pen lol :)
[17:47] <wireshark> whatTurtle:  do we know each other?:P
[17:47] <Pen> I'm just saying I need somewhere to put it, I don't know if I can fuck Ubuntu up.....
[17:47] <whatTurtle> Dr_Willis, That's true :(
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Pen: make a folder in $HOME and prefix with a period to hide the folder
[17:48] <seb_> hello is there any channel anyone knows of concerning linux games...
[17:48] <Alan502> Pen: how old are you?
[17:48] <Pen> ActionParsnip,
[17:48] <whatTurtle> wireshark, i don't think so
[17:48] <caldwell> K-rAd- if i use a tv capture card what program do i need to use it on ubuntu 9.10
[17:48] <Pen> 20
[17:48] <seb_> i want to get into linux game production
[17:48] <kanhiya> Pen  get out of here
[17:48] <Pen> lol....
[17:48] <Pen> I'm new to Ubuntu
[17:48] <greezmunkey> I put a dot in front of Pen
[17:48] <Pen> why?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Pen: you can chmod 600 to the folder and chown $USER:$USER to only allow your user access
[17:48] <seb_> can someone direct me to where to start, what to look a channel for game producers?
[17:48] <whatTurtle> seb you need passion, and some links
[17:48] <Alan502> Pen: don't watch porn if you are under 15 man, it can get you serious mental diseases
[17:49] <K-rAd-> caldwell, no idea, but you can get them working you need to compare cards with results on http://ubuntuforums.org.  anything plug and play would be most excellent
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Pen: if he is a member of admin he will have access however
[17:49] <whatTurtle> seb do you know any programming language?
[17:49] <unop> K-rAd-, so you have a domain from godaddy and you'd like to host a webserver for that domain on your home PC?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Pen: you could put it in some weird folder like /usr/local/share or /opt
[17:49] <Pen> yeah
[17:49] <Pen> ActionParsnip,
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Pen: just make sure the folder has access to your user
[17:50] <Pen> something like that, I'm just afraid i'll somehow screw up Ubuntu by putting it in a folder that it doesn't belong
[17:50] <whatTurtle> wireshark, I think i'll compile them all if i don't find any help in ./configure --help
[17:50] <K-rAd-> unop yes basically that is something i'd be open to doing
[17:50] <caldwell> edbian: what is ushare and how do i use it to play my xbox 360 on my laptop
[17:50] <Pen> when I was using Vista, I had all my hidden files in
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Pen: just don't put it in /proc or /dev anywhere and you are fine
[17:50] <whatTurtle> wireshark,  Dr_Willis said something smart ( that is will take me more time to find out how to compile individuals....)
[17:50] <Pen> C Drive>Windows>IME>D(made folder)....
[17:50] <unop> K-rAd-, do you have a static or dynamic address at home?
[17:50] <K-rAd-> unop a guide would be great i realize you probably could not explain all the steps here
[17:51] <K-rAd-> unop, it is static, though it has a lease time for renewal
[17:51] <Alan502> Pen: and you had all your viruses in them!!
[17:51] <seb_> whatTurtle: minimal stuff but im good with math and a quick learner and i want to see more games on linux the linux platform has all it needs for great gaming
[17:51] <whatTurtle> seb, do you know any programming language???
[17:51] <unop> K-rAd-, and on renewal, do you get the same address?
[17:51] <whatTurtle> seb, helloooooo ????
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: there are loads of great games
[17:51] <K-rAd-> unop, no however that doesn't happen too often
[17:51] <wireshark> whatTurtle:  stop trolling
[17:52] <seb_> whatTurtle: as i said only minimally
[17:52] <K-rAd-> unop i realize you can't help me here, but if you know of a guide to do what i hope to accomplish, that'd be spiffy
[17:52] <whatTurtle> wireshark, sorry the text get's more more faster so i missed some answers OK
[17:52] <whatTurtle> seb
[17:52] <seb_> ActionParsnip: you're right i'm a bit over my head here with my claims there has bin alot of work done it true
[17:52] <seb_> yep
[17:52] <whatTurtle> you must start working with code you enjoy
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: penumbra runs native and has an advanced physics engine and great visuals :)
[17:53] <Felip[e]> hi
[17:53] <unop> K-rAd-, well, something like this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632841
[17:53] <whatTurtle> seb that doesn't mean no hard work but means that you have to like what you are doing
[17:54] <unop> !lamp | K-rAd-, this might be useful too.
[17:54] <Pen> Can ubuntu get viruses? heh
[17:54] <seb_> ActionParsnip: havn't herd of it definitivly looking it up know...
[17:54] <whatTurtle> seb i believe that you can start with python games ( eg pygame) which is very nice
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: its not free but is worth the dough, and the playable demo is free
[17:55] <scooter2> Ubuntu is less prone to malware, because it is less of the market share of computer users.
[17:55] <whatTurtle> seb and you can find out that there are many libraries for games (like one for 3D games owned by Disney but opensource;) )
[17:55] <unop> K-rAd-, setting up apache is quite easy, the hard part is using some sort of dynamic dns service (dyndns, zoneedit, etc) to map domain name to IP address and vice versa.
[17:55] <scooter2> Actually, I take that back.
[17:55] <Pen> thank you scooter2
[17:55] <noobtremmy> whats the irc ch# for tremolus?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Scooter2: as well as the nature of linux
[17:55] <scooter2> Yeah, nature of linux.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !virus | scooter2 pen
[17:55] <scooter2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[17:55] <scooter2> Yeah.
[17:55] <noobtremmy> linux can be exploited to harass windows pc's..
[17:56] <noobtremmy> this is recent..
[17:56] <seb_> whatTurtle: you in game design?
[17:56] <noobtremmy> hasnt happened since my last update tho
[17:56] <scooter2> What happened?
[17:56] <ed_moulton> I've got a Lucid install, but need to move an older thunderbird profile from a windows box to this box.  What's the best way, update tbird on the windows box first?
[17:56] <whatTurtle> seb, no game design is a big "word"
[17:57] <noobtremmy> what is the  chanel name for tremolus support?
[17:57] <seb_> whatTurtle: well made some games?
[17:57] <seb_> whatTurtle: or programs?
[17:57] <scooter2> I think you can export the profile... I did this once.
[17:57] <whatTurtle> seb but generally my hobby and work is programming ( but not interesting games....)
[17:57] <scooter2> The thunderbird profile.
[17:57] <scooter2> I'm going to look this up.
[17:58] <whatTurtle> seb i will give one good link to start ;)
[17:58] <seb_> whatTurtle: yes please
[17:58] <whatTurtle> seb ok one second
[17:58] <blackscreen2> Dr_Willis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[17:58] <K-rAd-> unop might you know of a free dns service that would be sufficient for personal web server application
[17:58] <luka> every time i open a webpage containing java in firefox, the cpu goes up to 100% constantly. is there a way to fix this plz? i realy need that webpage loaded properly. thanks
[17:59] <Pen> If this is a poll tell me. A simple yes or a simple sentence would suffice me.
[17:59] <K-rAd-> unop, and godaddy, unless you know if a better domain registrant
[17:59] <thune3> blackscreen2: i can walk you through it in pm if you wan
[17:59] <whatTurtle> seb, go there and READ THAT BOOK http://inventwithpython.com/
[17:59] <Pen> If you could pick between Vista or Ubuntu 10.04 ...which one would you pick?
[17:59] <scooter2> ed_moulton Maybe this will help? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_from_Windows_to_Linux
[17:59] <blackscreen2> thune3, please do
[17:59] <kevinmcq> hello is there a way for me to have bluetooth turned off on startup in ubuntu 10?
[17:59] <whatTurtle> seb but don't forget to practice and test whatever comes in your mind even foolish thoughts are good when programming....
[18:00] <unop> K-rAd-, the domain registrar can be anything. I would use zonedit as the DNS service unless I setup a DNS server at home - but a static IP address is required.
[18:00] <K-rAd-> music purchases kill me.  amazonmp3.com has a very good selection i should revisit them to see if they have lucidified their download app
[18:00] <seb_> whatTurtle: thanx
[18:00] <whatTurtle> seb, also that book is free ;) You too :-)
[18:01] <K-rAd-> unop, you would not setup a apache web server from home ?
[18:01] <whatTurtle> seb that book is a really good one because it teaches you algorithms and teqnicks for programming ... ;)
[18:02] <miniuser> anyone else getting this on google earth?: http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9220/screenshotse.png
[18:02] <scooter2> kevinmcq: I think you would have to go into BIOS for that. I'm not sure if you can only turn off bluetooth and not wifi.
[18:02] <kevinmcq> scooter2, i
[18:02] <whatTurtle> seb, sorry for my bad english :(
[18:02] <kevinmcq> scooter2, i'm looking for something similar to how the system remembers my choice for volume etc
[18:03] <seb_> whatTurtle: no prob man
[18:03] <scooter2> kevinmcq: I'll look around more...
[18:03] <kevinmcq> scooter2, shouldnt there be some way for the bluetooth app to remember its last state?
[18:03] <seb_> whatTurtle: im definitivly getting into that book now
[18:03] <kevinmcq> scooter2, maybe in a config file i could disable at startup?
[18:03] <whatTurtle> seb, That's great Keep on Dude
[18:04] <scooter2> kevinmcq: Maybe System > Preferences > Startup Allications
[18:04] <kevinmcq> scooter2, generally i dont need bluetooth to be on, when i need it i can hunt it down and turn it on, so if there is a config file where i can have it turn itself off at startup that would work relaly well for me
[18:04] <K-rAd-> kevinmcq, if its a service you can use a package called bum to manage services to run or not.  there is also a CLI equivalent that escapes me
[18:04] <K-rAd-> i have an apple aluminum keyboard, for typeability sakes, i am not sure if i should select the JIS, ISO, or ANSI.  its north american.  wired aluminum apple keyboard
[18:05] <kevinmcq> i'd  like the service/applet to run, but i
[18:05] <K-rAd-> and i'd like to select the proper selection in the keyboard setup in system preferances
[18:05] <kevinmcq> sorry, i'd like the bluetooth to be disabled in the applet itself, similar to the volume applet remembering its previous state
[18:06] <K-rAd-> kevinmcq, you can turn services on and off from command line and you can remove them with bum
[18:06] <kevinmcq> K-rAd-,  its not the service, i like the service, but i want the service to remember its previous state
[18:06] <scooter2> kevinmcq: I'll keep looking.
[18:06] <kevinmcq> scooter2, thanks
[18:07] <K-rAd-> oh you got me if no one else knows, google is defiinitely your friend and the ubuntuforums
[18:08] <Pen> Last question for the day. On X-Chat, I clicked off something. The file/tool bar that you see on Mozilla, is usually on X-Chat....Why isn't it there now? how can I get it back?
[18:08] <Daekdroom> Pen, Crtl + F9
[18:08] <wireshark> how can i update the firefox?
[18:08] <Pen> thank you
[18:09] <Pen> Daekdroom, thanks.
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> bye all
[18:09] <Pen> bye guys thanks for this chat room
[18:09] <scooter2> kevinmcq: Looks like it has been reported as a bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/446657
[18:10] <scooter2> kevinmcq: Really confusing bug history.
[18:10] <codebrainz> hi.  when i use the volume keys on my keyboard, the volume goes down but it never goes back up to full unless i do it in the sound prefs.  any ideas?
[18:10] <ed_moulton> scooter2, my only concern was the version; I've been moving profiles for years, but there's quite a difference between tbird 2.x and 3
[18:11] <scooter2> ed_moulton: Sorry, I didn't understand.
[18:11] <purpzey> If I am running 9.04 do I need to use a 9.04 LiveCD to reinstall Grub?
[18:11] <wizard_2010> hello all this worked last night now it wont any help mplayer http://paste.ubuntu.com/452552/
[18:12] <OY1R> purpzey, no i dont think so.
[18:12] <codebrainz> wizard_2010, take the second ( out maybe
[18:12] <ed_moulton> scooter2, no biggie.  I think I've got to update the windows tbird before the move.  Then... hehe...  the mozilla suite is also on that computer.  I'm wondering how I can move that profile into new firefox and tbird profiles on this new box.  I'll taclke that some other time though.
[18:12] <Jordan_U> purpzey: No, if you follow the chroot intructions in the Ubuntu wiki you can use any LiveCD (you'll be using grub from the installed system)
[18:13] <Jordan_U> !restoregrub | purpzey
[18:13] <wizard_2010> codebrainz, ill try that thanks
[18:13] <Jordan_U> !grub | purpzey
[18:13] <scooter2> ed_moulton: Sorry I couldn't help! That sounds like it should work. Good luck!
[18:14] <codebrainz> no one knows how to get the volme keys to control to full volume instead of stopping at 70% and saying it's full in the notification bubble?
[18:14] <wizard_2010> codebrainz, ill try that thanks
[18:15] <wizard_2010> codebrainz, ill try that thanks
[18:15] <papertigers> anyone know how i can pass "yes" to ssh, for example when I am connecting to a host for the first time and it asks if you want to connect yes|no
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> codebrainz: if you take it to 100 using mouse then use volume up does it flick to 70 or stay at 100 and say full?
[18:15] <wizard_2010> codebrainz, never worked ?
[18:15] <codebrainz> wizard_2010, say that one more time polease
[18:15] <kermit> papertigers: yes|ssh
[18:15] <kermit> papertigers: oh you mean just once
[18:15] <wizard_2010> codebrainz, ill try that thanks lol
[18:15] <papertigers> kermit: yeah
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Papertigers: ssh user@node < yess
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> *yes (typo)
[18:15] <luka> every time i open a webpage containing java in firefox, the cpu goes up to 100% constantly. in ubuntu netbook. is there a way to fix this plz? thanks
[18:16] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, if i bring it above 70% it'll only move down with the buttons not up
[18:16] <aliasxerog_> luka: what kind of java are you using?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> codebrainz: is the system a laptop?
[18:17] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, in the sound prefs window, there's a line on the output volume track bar that says 100%, which is actually at around 70% of the total volume
[18:17] <Bragex9> Samba ha stopped working after upgrading to lucid lynx. I get this error message when I try to share a folder: net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. No such group. what is wrong here and what can I do to fix it?
[18:17] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, yes
[18:17] <Benedetta> Salve a tutti, ho un problema con i driver della stampante, devo stampare la tesina e non so come fare. ho una canon mp540 ho scaricato i driver, ho cercato di seguire le indicazioni in questo post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975177&page=3 soltanto che quando vado a installare il file deb mi dice dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cnijfilter-common:
[18:17] <Benedetta>  cnijfilter-common depends on libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1); however:  Package libcupsys2 is not installed.
[18:17] <Faissal> hey
[18:17] <Faissal> whats up
[18:17] <luka> aliasxerog:  umm how do i find out
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> codebrainz: was gonna say, 70% volume wikk give clearer sound if you crank your speakers which doesn't apply here
[18:17] <Benedetta> e quando vado a installare libcupsys mi dice libcups2 is already the newest version.
[18:17] <Benedetta> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[18:17] <Benedetta> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:17] <Benedetta>   cnijfilter-common: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1)
[18:17] <Benedetta> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[18:17] <FloodBot3> Benedetta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <Benedetta> come devo fare?
[18:18] <aliasxerog> luka: go into synaptic and tell me what java you have installed
[18:18] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, yea, it's really frustrating because I need to constantly tweak the volume as the loud parts in the movie come and go because I can't make too much noise
[18:18] <mr_boo> does anyone know how to enable flash player in firefox?
[18:18] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, so i have to minimize totem, and use the sound dialog instead of just pressing my volume buttons
[18:18] <mr_boo> all i see is a black box
[18:19] <Jordan_U> purpzey: Specifically, you want to follow starting from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Preparing%20Your%20Working%20Environment
[18:19] <luka> aliasxerog: 6.20 it seems
[18:19] <scooter2> mr_boo: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[18:19] <kurrata> hi, could anyone suggest me a program with which i could quikly check out icon themes without editing gtkrc-2.0?
[18:20] <scooter2> mr_boo: You can select firefox when you download it.
[18:20] <wireshark> guys radiotray is the best
[18:20] <Faissal> im on a mobile broadband 3g connection, and im having troubles browsing the internet under ubuntu. the broadband connection works fine for the first minutes im browsing the internet, then al of a sudden, the browser (be it firefox or chromium) isnt able to resolve any hostnames. but i know that the connection is still active since the LED activity on the usb broadband modem is indicating that the connection is still active, and i am still connected to that
[18:20] <Faissal>  irc channel. someone has a clue ??
[18:20] <wireshark> install it
[18:20] <mr_boo> scooter2, should i choose rpm or APT for latest ubuntu?
[18:21] <s__C> what do you think, go with apt if you're running ubuntu
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> codebrainz: all I can say is log a bug
[18:21] <Jordan_U> Faissal: Sounds like a DNS problem, try switching to opendns
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> !best | wireshark
[18:21] <scooter2> mr_boo: I agree with s__C, I think APT should work.
[18:21] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, fair enough.  what i truly need is some sort of plugin that make all audio a consistent level when  I'm watchin movies
[18:22] <mr_boo> i got this message after install "Package 'adobe-flashplugin' is virtual"
[18:22] <Faissal> Jordan_U, i was thinking the same, but im getting dns from the DHCP of my 3g provider.... i will try to specify opendns server and see what it does
[18:22] <Faissal> thanks mate
[18:22] <codebrainz> mr_boo, yeah, does that here, download the .deb file
[18:22] <Jordan_U> Faissal: You're welcome.
[18:23] <Pen> fuck I need help!
[18:23] <Jordan_U> !language | Pen
[18:23] <Pen> damn sorry
[18:23] <Pen> forgot
[18:23] <ross_> LOL..
[18:23] <azrtyo> i try to compile sox-14.0.0 at the end i got this error
[18:23] <azrtyo> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/sox-14.3.1/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[18:24] <imisdal> how do i set the remote desktop-password from the terminal?
[18:24] <Pen> I need help, Installing a wireless router, Netgear .... It  now wants to know my DEFAULT KEYRING password.
[18:24] <mr_boo> youtube seems to work now for some videos at least
[18:24] <azrtyo> what is missing pzl .
[18:24] <mr_boo> sometimes there is only a black box
[18:24] <azrtyo> ?
[18:24] <Pen> Authentication required by wireless network
[18:24] <Pen> Passwords or encryption keys are required to access the wireless network "NETGEAR
[18:25] <tic^> !wifi | Pen
[18:25] <Pen> thank you sorry
[18:25] <mr_boo> anyway now i can see youtube so thanks guys
[18:26] <azrtyo> anyone can help ?.
[18:26] <azrtyo> i try to compile sox-14.0.0 at the end i got this error
[18:26] <azrtyo> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/sox-14.3.1/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[18:26] <trism> azrtyo: that message is not enough information, it is just telling you there is an error, the error is likely on another line
[18:26] <codebrainz> anyone know how to make the volume buttons control the whole available range of volume and do it the same for all applications together?
[18:26] <mr_boo> now i realize i can see about 10% of the youtube videos :(
[18:27] <geekyogi> is there anyway to launch an application on different terminal.. while we are logged in via ssh.?
[18:27] <wizard__2012> hello help with flash I get message when using Miro internet tv hulu requires flash player 10.0.22 or higher
[18:27] <azrtyo> ok trism
[18:28] <azrtyo> i post it
[18:28] <wizard__2012> can someone please help
[18:28] <scooter2> mr_boo: Wow. I can help google-ing to find a solution. I'm not sure what's going on there.
[18:29] <kevinmcq> scooter2, thanks for finding that bug report. it confirms my thoughts... thanks for your help but it looks like this is a gnome problem so ill pester them about it
[18:29] <wireshark> i don't have  the gstreamer ...how can i install it?
[18:29] <mr_boo> scooter2, for 90% of the videos on youtube i can only see a black box
[18:29] <richard> what is the best alternative network manager for 10.04
[18:29] <richard> ?
[18:30] <azrtyo> this is the error : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/452568/ trism
[18:30] <scooter2> kevinmcq: No problem. I hope it gets fixed soon!
[18:30] <azrtyo> trism:
[18:30] <mr_boo> for example i can see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGgz56CXmFo&feature=popular
[18:30] <lfaraone> When I set PA to output in 4.1, the sound output is fine. But if I adjust the volume using the keyboard volume keys, the audio gets a tinny noise to it. The issue goes away if I manually twiddle the "master" volume via alsamixer. Is this a bug?
[18:31] <mr_boo> but not this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXe9dJiYL6Y&feature=related
[18:31] <j0npau1> I'm having a problem running Truecrypt that's probably pretty simple but I can't find anything online. Can anyone help me?
[18:31] <shoonya> which package provides "ubuntumenuproxy.h" file ?
[18:31] <codebrainz> richard, i dunno about best, but there is wicd
[18:31] <Guest21442> ok
[18:31] <bkadoctaj> Could someone please take a look at my .scrotwm.conf to see why I am unable to take screenshots? http://pastebin.com/MXMnWmGj
[18:31] <unop> K-rAd-, If i setup a webserver at home, it would serve a low load. Plus it's against my ISP's ToS to do so. I'd rather pay for a VPS and be guaranteed good bandwidth and availability.
[18:32] <papertigers> ActionParsnip: ssh user@node < yess doesnt work
[18:32] <scooter2> mr_boo: Still black box when you refresh the page?
[18:32] <mr_boo> scooter2, yes
[18:32] <lfaraone> !ask | j0npau1
[18:32] <azrtyo> r u t here ? trism
[18:33] <K-rAd-> thanks unop
[18:33] <unop> papertigers, maybe you meant to use yes instead of yess there?
[18:33] <K-rAd-> unop what does VPS stand for ?
[18:33] <wilcojr> Guys who can help with severe NFS+MYSQL issues on 10.04
[18:33] <wilcojr> its insane
[18:34] <trism> azrtyo: yes, but I will need to look at the code to see, one sec
[18:34] <papertigers> unop: he did, doesnt work
[18:34] <papertigers> found something else to try
[18:34] <K-rAd-> i'll google it sorry :)
[18:34] <scooter2> mr_boo: Do you have the flashblock addon installed?
[18:34] <unop> K-rAd-, Virtual Private Server. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server
[18:34] <mr_boo> scooter2, what is that?
[18:34] <j0npau1> Thanks ubotto. Just didn't want to interrupt. :) When I try to run Truecrypt I'm getting "truecrypt: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but I have it, and links in /lib, /usr/lib, and /usr/local/lib. I'm not sure where else it would need to be.
[18:34] <wilcojr> guys - MYSQL hangs when i do service mysql start  - i use NFS mounts for the data storage which work fine (copy delete) - permissions are set properly too (mysql RWX)
[18:35] <Lantizia> has anyone else noticed the window manager forgets which window title your dragging?
[18:35] <wilcojr> i also added the paths to apparmor.d files
[18:35] <azrtyo> ok
[18:35] <wilcojr> but nothing it hangs
[18:35] <Oli``> Is there any way to get Gwibber to show an icon in the Notification Area applet (instead of the new Indicator Applet - which I don't have on my panel)
[18:35] <unop> papertigers, if you want to prevent ssh from prompting whether to connect or not. there is an ssh option you can set, see man ssh.
[18:35] <scooter2> mr_boo: I'm not completely sure, honestly. It seemed that some users had success when they removed it.
[18:35] <papertigers> unop: -o "StrictHostKeyChecking no"
[18:35] <lfaraone> j0npau1: did you install truecrypt via the deb package?
[18:36] <papertigers> unop: dont want to change the conf file, just needs to do it for this python script
[18:36] <mr_boo> scooter2, i don't seem to have flashblock installed
[18:36] <mr_boo> scooter2, but it seems i can only see videos that are 360p
[18:36] <unop> papertigers, well, you can pass the option to ssh inspite of the conf file, like you did with -o there.
[18:36] <scooter2> mr_boo: I'll look for that.
[18:37] <markit> how can I choose a different "locale" from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locales does not ask me
[18:38] <K-rAd-> i'm doing backup from my ubuntu drive to my windows drive using correctly configured samba and backintime-gnome.  its somewhat slow, and definitely a resource hog.  can't listen to music while its transferring.  i could invest on online storage solutions does anyone know how much amazon cloud services would cost for 600GB of data to back, and say, differrential updates twice a week ?
[18:38] <ghost_> hey
[18:39] <lfaraone> markit: "export LC_ALL=<your new locale>"
[18:39] <lfaraone> markit: add it to .bashrc if you want to retain th at.
[18:39] <j0npau1> lfaraone I'm not sure... there wasn't a package in the ubuntu repo so I think I just got the tar.gz from their website but now i can't find it so I'm not sure.
[18:39] <scooter2> mr_boo: This looks similar to your problem. http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/11/flash-player-101-beta-is-released.html
[18:39] <scooter2> mr_boo: I think we're getting closer...
[18:39] <wireshark> i don't have  the gstreamer ...how can i install it?
[18:40] <wireshark> from synaptic there are a lot of them
[18:40] <K-rAd-> actually scooter you can get release candidates for 10.1 now
[18:40] <lakeoftea> i just typed in export DISPLAY=192.168.1.101:0 (not my computer's ip) and now i can't open gedit from command line.  how can i reverse this?
[18:40] <markit> lfaraone: in debian I run reconfigure locales and I'm asked what make "available" and which one is the one to use. Looking for the same behaviour
[18:40] <duffydack> K-rAd-,   i`d use an external hd and rsync. personally.
[18:40] <K-rAd-> eek.
[18:41] <lfaraone> markit: set dpkg-reconfigure to a lower priority leve?
[18:41] <markit> lfaraone: sorry, what do you mean?
[18:41] <unop> lakeoftea, DISPLAY=localhost:0  or DISPLAY=:0.0
[18:42] <trism> azrtyo: just as an aside (while I wait for it to compile), you really shouldn't be compiling it as root
[18:42] <mr_boo> scooter2, i'm looking around for the problem but i can't see any reason why it behaves like this
[18:42] <lfaraone> j0npau1: hm, no idea. they changed their installation method recently...
[18:42] <duffydack> K-rAd-, sounds like its down to your io scheduler.  try deadline
[18:42] <lfaraone> markit: see the "--priority" flag in dpgk-reconfigure(1)'s manpage.
[18:43] <markit> lfaraone: thanks
[18:43] <wizard__2012> can someone help with setting up foxy proxy to get hulu running I live in belfast which is the uk
[18:43] <Joshua_Roberts> oh wow this is so much better...
[18:44] <j0npau1> yeah... I'm just not sure where to put a link to libfuse.so.2 where truecrypt will find it if neither of those places
[18:44] <unop> !pm | lakeoftea
[18:44] <Joshua_Roberts> I have two questions about ubuntu 10.04 and radeon video cards:
[18:44] <scooter2> mr_boo: I'm still looking...
[18:44] <lfaraone> j0npau1: you installed libfuse via apt/synaptic/etc, right?
[18:44] <Joshua_Roberts> 1. How can I run to x-server sessions, the way an nvidia card with 2 outputs can?
[18:44] <lfaraone> j0npau1: do this: sudo apt-get install libfuse2
[18:45] <mr_boo> scooter2, i can watch in full screen but only at 360p
[18:45] <Lantizia> Hey does anyone know why this bug still exists in Lucid when it was found in Karmic and triaged? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/494096
[18:45] <azrtyo> ok you mean have i to retry as normal user ?
[18:45] <lfaraone> Lantizia: nobody's had a chance to fix it, usually.
[18:45] <Joshua_Roberts> 2. If using extended desktop how do I add a panel the the second monitor?
[18:45] <azrtyo> ok you mean have i to retry as normal user ? trism
[18:45] <astralpop> Anyone have luck installing Eve on 10.04 ?
[18:45] <Lantizia> lfaraone, the gnome guys fixed it a while back, surely when ubuntu re-fork the debian packages they add they're own patches?
[18:45] <Joshua_Roberts> er two x-sessions I meant
[18:46] <j0npau1> lfaraone yep it's already installed
[18:46] <j0npau1> and i installed it via synaptic
[18:47] <lfaraone> j0npau1: no idea then.
[18:47] <trism> azrtyo: yes, but before you do that, the problem seems to be you need to install libmad0-dev and reconfigure with that first (testing it now)
[18:47] <ne7work> !flash
[18:47] <mr_boo> scooter2, i found something relating to nspluginwrapper
[18:47] <j0npau1> thanks anyway :)
[18:47] <lfaraone> Lantizia: looks like https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599181 indicates otherwise. Am I looking at the wrong upstream report?
[18:47] <mr_boo> scooter2, i run the 64 bit version
[18:48] <Lantizia> lfaraone, yeah thats the one... you know I am amazed this isn't already fixed - I swear 9.04 had this issue too... and that means it's been a bug for well over a year
[18:48] <scooter2> mr_boo: Similar to this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823411
[18:49] <buuu> hi
[18:49] <mr_boo> scooter2, yeah sort of
[18:49] <lfaraone> Lantizia: okay, well identifying the correct fix and getting it accepted upstream would be the good way to get it resolved.
[18:50] <scooter2> mr_boo: Or this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358591
[18:50] <Lantizia> lfaraone, or finding a less crummy window manager :)
[18:50] <azrtyo> reconfigure ? how to do ? trism
[18:50] <azrtyo> i just install that package
[18:50] <scooter2> mr_boo: If so, real bad news.
[18:50] <lfaraone> Lantizia: I don't have upload rights to metacity (IIRC, it's in main), and am not too familiar with the standards there. Feel free to follow the sponorship proceedure and get someone in core-dev to upload it.
[18:51] <dunpeal> Hey. I've just installed Ubuntu on a laptop with Nvidia FX2800 video card. The 173 version works, but the current doesn't. Why?
[18:51] <trism> azrtyo: yes that fixed it for me, go into the sox source directory and do: make clean; ./configure; make
[18:51] <Lantizia> lfaraone, would rather help debian to get it fixed since it'll trickle down to ubuntu anyway
[18:51] <trism> azrtyo: of course, with any options you used on ./configure the first time
[18:51] <azrtyo> ok
[18:51] <luka> every time i open a webpage containing java in firefox, the cpu goes up to 100% constantly. in ubuntu netbook. is there a way to fix this plz? thanks
[18:51] <lfaraone> Lantizia: okay, go ahead, then. but I don't really know what you're looking for asking about it here.
[18:52] <buuu> i have Intel Corporation 82801 SATA RAID Controller and two disks in RAID 1 mirror - on which device i should install boot loader? on the /dev/mapper/isw_bedjajbdch_Volume0 or something else?
[18:53] <wireshark> with which command can i see the temperature of the cpu,vga and the otherS?
[18:53] <wireshark> does anyone knows?
[18:54] <aar_>  Hi, I'm using kde4 (kubuntu 10.04) with the desktop on folder mode. The position of the icons is lost every time I restart kde. Is there a fix ford this?
[18:55] <azrtyo> it seems it's ok now trism
[18:56] <trism> azrtyo: good to hear
[18:56] <buuu> when trying to install 10.04 on RAID 1 i get following error:  The ext4 file system creation in partition #5 of Serial ATA RAID isw_bedjajbdch_Volume0 (mirror) failed.
[18:56] <azrtyo> that's correct it was that package was missing
[18:56] <azrtyo> libmad0-dev
[18:56] <azrtyo> how do you find that one ?
[18:57] <azrtyo> you are great thanks a lot
[18:57] <azrtyo> trism:
[18:57] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature in lucid
[18:58] <Joshua_Roberts> why when I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, the window buttons did not change, andfirefox still boots to the 9.10 page?
[18:58] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  it shows inly the cpu?
[18:58] <wireshark> only*
[18:58] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, because it keeps your settings, and your settings are to use the older theme and homepage
[18:58] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  it doesn't work
[18:59] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, if you were to make a new user they'd have the new defaults
[18:59] <wireshark> i have the lucid
[18:59] <trism> azrtyo: in mp3.c there were some types that looked like they were from libmad, looks like they didn't properly disable them
[18:59] <medardo> #ubuntu-es
[18:59] <Joshua_Roberts> can't I just update the settings instead of making a new user?
[18:59] <rv1s> hello, i'd like to mass-archive my old software collections which are on cd... i've got 3 cd drives and now am searching for a software that automatically converts any cd i insert to an iso file - is there any program dealing with such a scenario? thanks in advance
[18:59] <purpzey> Is it safe to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 using the GUI?
[18:59] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:wait i ll try
[18:59] <azrtyo> excellent
[18:59] <azrtyo> thanks a lot
[18:59] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:      cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory
[18:59] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, sure you can pick the Mono theme and tell firefox to reset to the default homepage
[18:59] <wireshark> it says this
[19:00] <Joshua_Roberts> ok
[19:00] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:kracekumar@kracekumar-laptop:/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ cat temperature
[19:00] <shiftingcontrol> temperature:             45 C
[19:00] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:above was my o/p
[19:01] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[19:01] <wireshark> this?
[19:01] <Joshua_Roberts> I have seen a web page that list many repositories to use, such as ubuntu-tweak, media-related repo's and many others, but I can't seem to find it.  It was a tutorial page.  Anyone know of something similar I can use?
[19:01] <Joshua_Roberts> I forgot to backup my firefox bookmarks and such when I blew out XP and installed ubuntu...
[19:02] <buuu> when trying to install 10.04 on RAID 1 i get following error:  The ext4 file system creation in partition #5 of Serial ATA RAID isw_bedjajbdch_Volume0 (mirror) failed.
[19:02] <Joshua_Roberts> so I have to rebuild my bookmark likst...
[19:02] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, If you get ubuntu-tweak installed then it itself has a big list of both PPA and non-PPA APT repositories you can enable
[19:02] <skyl> I have an OT question but maybe someone would be kind enough to help or point me in the right direction.  I need to enable L2TP over IPSec for my Belkin54g.  Little help?
[19:02] <duffydack> Joshua_Roberts, chrome(ium) + sync = ftw
[19:02] <Joshua_Roberts> Ok, I ahve it installed.
[19:02] <thune3> rv1s: cat /dev/sr[yourdevice] > /path/to/file.iso is supposed to work for data cd
[19:03] <skyl> I'm the client
[19:03] <Joshua_Roberts> ftw?
[19:03] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, "for the win" :)
[19:03] <Lantizia> duffydack, what does that sync with might I ask? :)
[19:03] <soreau> ross_: Why are you pmming me?
[19:03] <zagabar> I istnalled ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop and it doesn't seem to be able to use my wireless network card. I have no wlan0 in ifconfig and it says in network connection that the device isn't ready. What can I do?
[19:03] <Joshua_Roberts> for some reason F* the wizard came to mind...
[19:03] <soreau> ross_: Ask in the main channel here like everyone else
[19:03] <duffydack> Joshua_Roberts, themes, bookmarks and prefs...or whichever you set.
[19:03] <wireshark> duffydack:  do you know the command that shows the temperatures?
[19:03] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:try this one acpi -V
[19:04] <duffydack> wireshark, I used to, there was a program for it.. I forget.  Google it
[19:04] <grumete> Hi, I have installed usb-creator, but it didn't create any icon in applications, I tried to run it on th terminal, but didn't work neither, what can I do now?
[19:04] <purpzey> Can I get an honest opinion, I'm running 9.04, everything is running smoothly and working, should I upgrade to 9.04? or 10.04, or not at all if everything is working?
[19:04] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  what is acpi?
[19:04] <hdpb_> Gwibber won't start for me.  It seems to be a desktop-couch permission issue.  anyone else having issues
[19:04] <Lantizia> duffydack, I use SyncPlaces on firefox to sync to a remote XBEL formatted file (either via FTP or WebDAV)... do you know if chrome(ium) has something similar?
[19:04] <wireshark> i don't have already installed it shiftingcontrol
[19:04] <Joshua_Roberts> thanks for the pointers.
[19:05] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, np
[19:05] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:its advanced configuration and power interface
[19:05] <duffydack> Lantizia,  it just stores it on google,  you just set it up with your googlemail user/pass, it does the rest..
[19:05] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:just install using sudo-apt get install acpi
[19:05] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  is it harmfull?
[19:05] <Lantizia> duffydack, yuck no thanks :) I like to store my personal information on my own servers thanks
[19:06] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:if yu feel so just google it
[19:06] <duffydack> Lantizia, heh, well ok.  Personally i dont care who knows what bookmarks I have
[19:06] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780,i think this is the one you were searching if i m suppose
[19:07] <wizard_2010> can someone help me with foxyproxy to get hulu working in uk
[19:07] <Lantizia> wizard_2010, thats not really a very ubuntu specific thing... and it's unlikely to work anyway
[19:07] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  i gave this command
[19:07] <wireshark> and it says
[19:07] <wireshark> Cooling 0: Processor 0 of 3
[19:07] <wireshark> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 3
[19:08] <wizard_2010> i heard it worked seen people do it on youtube but i cant get it to work
[19:08] <wireshark> what is this shiftingcontrol?
[19:08] <thune3> grumete: System->Admin->USB Startup Disk Creator
[19:08] <grumete> thank you thune3!!!!
[19:09] <dominet> hello folks
[19:09] <dominet> which is the best ubuntu flavour for Core2Duo machine?
[19:09] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:it depends on cpu ,if you use core 2 duo cooling 1 and 2 mean cpu1 and cpu 2
[19:09] <richard_> what is the name of the restricted extras package
[19:09] <badman> randi kidher milegi
[19:09] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  i want to see the temperatures
[19:10] <dominet> anyone out of 1541 people in here would like to answer my question? which ubuntu should i download for my Core2Duo machine? 64-bit
[19:10] <badman> ubuntu 9.0
[19:10] <wikiik> any program to scan wifi networks and return the channel they are using?
[19:10] <dominet> badman shouldn't i install 10.04?
[19:11] <unop> wikiik,  iwlist scan
[19:11] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:try acpi -t
[19:11] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:it shows thermal info
[19:11] <soreau> wikiik: iw?
[19:11] <dunpeal> Hey. I've just installed Lucid on a laptop with Nvidia FX2800 video card. The 173 version works, but the current doesn't. Why?
[19:12] <badman> @dominet i ve used ubuntu in core 3 duo machine
[19:12] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  it doesn't do anything
[19:12] <richard_> what is the name of the restricted extras package for dvd playback?
[19:12] <wikiik> soreau, unop thanks, that's it
[19:12] <wizard_2010> is there anything like this for ubuntu 10.4 Identity Cloaker Trial
[19:12] <wizard_2010> so i need to vpn to a usa proxy server to watch hulu it can be done :)
[19:12] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:my o/p  acpi -t
[19:12] <shiftingcontrol> Thermal 0: ok, 45.0 degrees C
[19:12] <erUSUL> !dvd > richard_
[19:12] <dunpeal> How do I troubleshoot this?   Where should I post the question?
[19:12] <Joshua_Roberts> looking for a way to setup 2 x-sessions with gnome 10.04 dual monitors.
[19:13] <purpzey> Is there a better way to back up my harddrive than just to copy my homedir?
[19:13] <dunpeal> Hey. I've just installed Lucid on a laptop with Nvidia FX2800 video card. The 173 version works, but the current doesn't. How can I troubleshoot this?
[19:13] <soreau> wikiik: sudo iw wlan0 scan|egrep "SSID|channel"
[19:14] <wizard_2010> so i need to vpn to a usa proxy server to watch hulu it can be done :)
[19:14] <thune3> dunpeal: older cards are not supported by latest nvidia drivers, you must use legacy drivers
[19:15] <sebrock_> is mplayer and mencoder compiled with support for everything available in medibuntu?
[19:15] <dunpeal> thune3: are you sure?  FX2800 is pretty new (and high end)
[19:16] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:Lm-sensor and GKrelIM can do what you were asking. . . .
[19:17] <wireshark> GKrelIM?
[19:17] <thune3> dunpeal: sorry sounded link an old card. check http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for compatibility of driver version
[19:17] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  i have installed the lm-sensors
[19:17] <soreau> dunpeal: First start by saying what does not work about it, how you installed the newer driver, which version of ubuntu etc
[19:18] <dunpeal> soreau: Lucid, I tried installing both through the "Hardware Driver" menu dialog, and later directly through apt
[19:18] <shiftingcontrol> wireshark:did yu get the desired result?
[19:18] <dunpeal> soreau: the latest ("nvidia-current") was marked "recommended" on the Hardware Drivers dialog.
[19:18] <wireshark> no shiftingcontrol
[19:18] <wireshark> what is GKrelIM? shiftingcontrol
[19:18] <dunpeal> soreau: the thing that doesn't work is that when I restart, I get an error message about graphics not starting properly
[19:19] <soreau> dunpeal: blacklisted nouveau module and all?
[19:19] <Anarhist> hello, i have upgraded to the netbook install, and now i don't know how to access or empty the trash
[19:20] <dunpeal> soreau: yeah, I did all of that. important to note that the older 173 does work (mostly, adjusting brightness doesn't, which is why I want to try the newest)
[19:20] <wireshark> how can  i install gstreamer?
[19:20] <soreau> dunpeal: Did you review the X log from the failed session?
[19:20] <willwork4foo> anyone here have much experience troubleshooting Deja-Dup? I'm having a bit of a weird problem here with UNE lucid (fully patched) - if I install Deja-Dup, the icon isn't there and I can't launch it from Gnome-Do... but Synaptic says it's installed. I've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it a number of times
[19:20] <wireshark> i don't know if i have already installed it
[19:20] <shiftingcontrol> GKrelIM is also a package to monitor your cpu . . .
[19:20] <dunpeal> soreau: it didn't contain anything helpful
[19:20] <willwork4foo> I've looked in the Main Menu config to see if it's an unticked entry - it's not there either
[19:21] <Anarhist> aha, if i change to 'places' in nautilus i can see it
[19:21] <soreau> dunpeal: I guess you can file a bug report then
[19:21] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  i wrote this on synaptic but there is no match
[19:21] <Anarhist> very ugly
[19:21] <dunpeal> soreau: there was a thread with a guy having the exact same issue, I'll try to find it
[19:21] <person_> Hey folks. Having some trouble applying a patch to Gnome (found at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/526437 ). Anyone able (and willing) to help?
[19:21] <dunpeal> soreau: do you know anything about OOPS in the kernel log?
[19:21] <shiftingcontrol> try networkbmonitor in synaptic you ll get it wireshark
[19:21] <soreau> dunpeal: kernel panic?
[19:21] <davirrirri> Hello! ¿How I do to that Amsn mail is open with Firefox, mi default browser, and not chromium?
[19:22] <dunpeal> soreau: yup
[19:22] <soreau> dunpeal: I dont get those since I use radeon drivers ;)
[19:22] <wireshark> how can i install the gstreamer....there are a lot of files in synaptic
[19:22] <wireshark> could anyone help me?
[19:23] <bihari> no one can help you unless u cant help you self
[19:23] <bihari> wireshark :p
[19:23] <soreau> wireshark: gstreamer is installed by default. See gstreamer-properties
[19:23] <wizard_2010> i have a question I have a app that is for windows see like can i just wine to install it ? http://anchorfree.com/downloads/hotspot-shield/
[19:23] <purpzey> Can someone help me out with Simple Backup Config?
[19:23] <hdpb_> i'm having issues with the screen going black and then flashes of colored bars on Lucid.  anyone else having the same issues?  solutions?
[19:23] <mkanyicy> wireshark, what do you want to accomplish?
[19:24] <wireshark> soreau:   mkanyicy i installed the radio tray and some stations needs the gstreamer plugin
[19:24] <wireshark> need*
[19:25] <mkanyicy> wireshark, install the good the bad and the ugly pluggins
[19:26] <wireshark> mkanyicy:  the good and the bad i have installed them
[19:26] <dunpeal> soreau: does Radeon support Ubuntu better than Nvidia?
[19:26] <mkanyicy> wireshark, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
[19:26] <mkanyicy> wireshark, you cannot leave the ugly one behind :)
[19:27] <wireshark> mkanyicy:  i have already install some of them
[19:27] <fat_rat> whois piotr
[19:27] <soreau> dunpeal: radeon drivers support all the way from the ancient radeon 7000, to the new HD4xxx cards. all working OOTB since the driver is already installed and working with 3D by default (even on a live cd)
[19:27] <c00kiemon5ter> does anyone know how I can make conky not update, that is set "update_intervall" to something that will tell conky not to update ?
[19:27] <c00kiemon5ter> 0.0 doesn't seem to do that :/
[19:27] <wireshark> if i give this command on terminal mkanyicy is there a porblem?
[19:28] <kthomas_vh_> backup!
[19:28] <dunpeal> soreau: how come it's so much better?  my Nvidia card was released at the end of 2009, yet apparently isn't well supported.
[19:28] <sebrock_> anyone knows why VNC does not update the window when connecting with a mac?
[19:28] <purpzey> I am trying to back up and "Simple Backup Config" keeps telling me "process has started in the background" but I don't think it's doing anything, can someone help me out?
[19:29] <mkanyicy> wireshark, no, there is no problem
[19:29] <mkanyicy> wireshark, I have to go now
[19:29] <Bigyesz> hi
[19:29] <wireshark> mkanyicy:  is going to remove the "gmstreamer0.10-fluedo-mpegdemux"
[19:29] <soreau> dunpeal: While the nouveau driver is covering a lot of ground, it still isn't ready for much more than compiz yet and proprietary drivers mean you're stuck with whatever code is in their blob
[19:29] <shiftingcontrol> mkanyicy:i dont think so ugly is supported
[19:30] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  i have already installed good and ugly
[19:30] <purpzey> How do i get a list of all applications running at a terminal?
[19:30] <dunpeal> soreau: right, but how come Radeon support is so much better than Nvidia?  ATI investing more in the Linux community?
[19:30] <wireshark> but i haven't install the bad shiftingcontrol
[19:30] <dunpeal> or maybe ATI released source/specs for their cards?
[19:30] <mkanyicy> shiftingcontrol, ugly is in multiverse
[19:30] <mkanyicy> wireshark, Good luck.
[19:30] <Mowmed> Je cherche le Driver : Périphérique modem sur bus High Definition Audio j'ai chercher sur Google en vin :s donc je fait appel a vous pour m'aider
[19:30] <shoopdawoop> purpzey: ps -A
[19:30] <wireshark> shiftingcontrol:  is going to remove the"  is going to remove the "gmstreamer0.10-fluedo-mpegdemux"
[19:31] <wireshark> and mkanyicy should i remove this?
[19:31] <soreau> dunpeal: AMD bought ATI about a year ago and began releasing hardware specifications and docs for the radeon hardware, allowing the radeon driver team to write much better drivers and support newer hardware while nvidia is proprietary and the nouveau driver has to be RE'd since nvidia does not release their hw specs
[19:31] <soreau> dunpeal: For your newer card, it will probably be supported in a new nvidia driver release whenever they get around to releasing it
[19:32] <Bigyesz> hi
[19:32] <Mowmed> .
[19:32] <Mowmed> .
[19:32] <shiftingcontrol> no idea wireshark . . .
[19:32] <Mowmed> .
[19:32] <FloodBot3> Mowmed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <DJones> !fr | Mowmed
[19:34] <luka> every time i open a webpage containing java in firefox, the cpu goes up to 100% constantly. in ubuntu netbook. is there a way to fix this plz? thanks
[19:34] <soreau> dunpeal: No idea why it works with an older driver and not with their newer one, but that's proprietary style for you. Also, good luck finding an nvidia driver dev. #nvidia is a ghost town while #radeon has real developers (a handful of devs actually get paid to work on the open radeon driver full time)
[19:34] <dunpeal> soreau: I should have bought Radeon :/
[19:35] <dunpeal> nothing like paying hundreds of dollars for an ultra high-end card, just to enjoy zero support from your vendor.
[19:35] <Joshua_Roberts> can anyone please explain to me why is seems so difficult to setup two x-sessions in ubuntu if I don't have an nvidia card?
[19:35] <soreau> dunpeal: Well, nvidia has always been prided as the best 3D support in linux but that is changing now in light of the recent situation
[19:35] <dunpeal> I was basically scammed by Nvidia
[19:36] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: You mean two x sessions on different tty's or two separate X screens?
[19:37] <Joshua_Roberts> two x-sessions on two monitors...
[19:37] <dunpeal> soreau: I understand how AMD buying ATI may improve the ATI Linux support. Has anything happened to degrade Nvidia's Linux support?
[19:37] <Joshua_Roberts> I am not sure what tty stands for...
[19:38] <etotheipi> "teletypewriter"
[19:38] <chazco> Hi... Firefox seems to randomly close (no errors or anything, it just disappears)... anyone got any idea why this might be? The problem survives complete Ubuntu re-installations...
[19:38] <Testfunc23> hello, i'm trying to telnet (yes i know it is insecure) but i cant seem to connect to anything including localhost, i keep getting the 'connection refused' error
[19:38] <bondiblueos9> is there any way to get a count of my total traffic since a specific date from ntop?
[19:38] <arg> Hey. Wondering if anyone knows about what could cause this kind of issue. My system (10.04) crashes and freezes 15 minutes or so after start up in the morning (after the computer has been off for a long time).
[19:38] <Joshua_Roberts> soreau: I upgraded to 10.04 and it solved the issues I was having with the video card.  But, now I want to run a separate x-session on each monitor.
[19:38] <arg> I do a hard reboot, and it usually ahppens one more time.
[19:39] <arg> But if I wait like 10 minutes, and try again, it will be fine.
[19:39] <arg> No crashes, until the next time it goes through a long period of shut down.
[19:39] <Joshua_Roberts> I have only done this with the nvidia-settings app, I have not tried to do it by hand or with another app.
[19:39] <zagabar> What should I do if I installed ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop and my wireless network is marked as "device not ready"? I can see my network card in lspci. But I have no wlan0 in ifconfig.
[19:39] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, do you want to be able to move windows from one screen to another?
[19:39] <IdleOne> arg: either bad ram or over heating
[19:39] <soreau> dunpeal: Just their usual proprietary nature, nothing excessively out of the ordinary. They have shown no interest in helping the OSS community though AFAICT.
[19:40] <IdleOne> arg: that would be my guess
[19:41] <IdleOne> arg: please ask your questions in the channel to insure you get good advice. to answer your question I don't know how to check or if there are any tools that check RAM
[19:41] <soreau> dunpeal: As I said, you can probably find a newer driver that will work that may be on the nvidia site (check to make sure it supports your card in the driver notes) but if you can't get it working, you could check on the nvidia general community support area on the nvnews forums
[19:41] <thune3> dunpeal: i suspect the issues have been fixed with the latest nvidia 195 driver, which ubuntu doesn't have yet (what soreau said)
[19:41] <willwork4foo> Hi - does anyone else see any weird behaviour with netbooks running Ubuntu lucid 10.04? I've got a fairly fresh clean install here, and it works beautifully most of the time... However, every now and then Ubuntu decides I have 1% battery remaining and goes into auto-hibernation. This is usually from any other level of charge - up to 95%
[19:43] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, because if you do then it affects how you do it
[19:44] <Joshua_Roberts> Lantizia: ok, so how shouldI go about doing it?
[19:44] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, well answer my question first
[19:44] <Joshua_Roberts> NO
[19:44] <Joshua_Roberts> not neccessary
[19:44] <Joshua_Roberts> not like xineorama or whatever
[19:45] <Joshua_Roberts> I have the extended desktop now...
[19:45] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, ok then you just need to define two X screens in your xorg.conf then
[19:45] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, ensure your xorg.conf has two devices (each output vga/hdmi/div port will be a device) and two screens and two monitors
[19:45] <Joshua_Roberts> ok, is there a page that has more details on the info I need to do this?
[19:46] <soreau> Joshua_Roberts: Ah yes, just define two X screens in your xorg.conf which you'll probably want two device and monitor sections as well (for each screen)
[19:46] <h4f> how do I install ubuntu on external usb drive ?
[19:47] <soreau> h4f: Just boot ubuntu live cd and install it to that target location?
[19:48] <h4f> soreau:  I don't have cd
[19:48] <rcmx> Have the open ATI drivers changed for 10.04? I have noticed a performance decrease over 9.10, and if so could I downgrade them?
[19:48] <Lantizia> Joshua_Roberts, this is the official information about xorg.conf ... http://www.x.org/archive/current/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.html
[19:48] <Joshua_Roberts> thx
[19:48] <soreau> h4f: How were you planning on installing then?
[19:48] <h4f> soreau:  can I copy needed file directly to HD ?
[19:48] <soreau> I don't think that's a good idea
[19:49] <soreau> h4f: What is your situation, you don't have linux installed yet?
[19:49] <h4f> soreau: yeap I have
[19:49] <h4f> soreau: just not sure how to do it properly
[19:49] <arand_> willwork4foo: I just saw a post on the ubuntu forums regarding random suspends, which might be similar issues, I'd suggest looking though the forums and search for bug reprot on launchpad..
[19:50] <soreau> h4f: I don't really know how to do it without booting a live usb or cd
[19:50] <willwork4foo> thanks arand
[19:50] <willwork4foo> I'll have a hunt through. I'm glad to hear it's not just me with it going on!
[19:51] <h4f> soreau: there is an utility "startup disc creator" but some how it doe not work as expected
[19:51] <dunpeal> thune3: the one Ubuntu has is pretty new (195.36.24 vs the latest which is 195.36.31)
[19:52] <dunpeal> thune3: I also installed the newest one via the Nvidia installer.
[19:52] <soreau> h4f: What doesn't work about it?
[19:52] <dunpeal> thune3: apparently, it just doesn't work as well as it should.
[19:52] <Testfunc23> hello, i'm trying to telnet (yes i know it is insecure) but i cant seem to connect to anything including localhost, i keep getting the 'connection refused' error
[19:53] <h4f> soreau:  it does not allow me to install. may be cause I have some partitions there
[19:53] <c3l> gnome-terminal is stuck somehow. I cant start it, and a process of it is running, it cannot be killed with neither sigterm or sigkill. how do I fix this?
[19:53] <dunpeal> thune3: how do I know which driver I'm running right now (nvidia 195, nvidia 173, or nouveu)?
[19:54] <wizard__2012> how do i get the add remove program ?
[19:54] <dunpeal> wizard__2012: you probably want Ubuntu Software Center
[19:54] <wizard__2012> I have that
[19:55] <abhi_nav> wizard_2010, you can install it from USC
[19:55] <soreau> ! install | h4f
[19:55] <c3l> wizard__2012: aptitude =)
[19:55] <wizard__2012> whats the program called
[19:55]  * willwork4foo personally likes the USB stick install method :)
[19:55] <willwork4foo> I have many Atom-based systems in the house, all running different types of Ubuntu!
[19:56] <c3l> gnome-terminal is stuck somehow. I cant start it, and a process of it is running, it cannot be killed with neither sigterm or sigkill. how do I fix this?
[19:56] <mubuntu> folks, a question... as I am thinking of buying a SSD. what is the status of the TRIM support? I am running 10.04 LTS
[19:56] <dunpeal> wizard__2012: which program?
[19:56] <{n8}> yep unetbootin is the only method ive used willwork4foo
[19:56] <wizard_2010> to add remove programs
[19:56] <BurN`> i have a question, is there any possible way to do power schemes for laptops in linux? such as run it in high powerformance or power saver?
[19:56] <willwork4foo> I has a desktop running 64 bit normal Ubuntu, a netbook running 32 bit UNE, and a server running 32 bit Ubuntu Server. All installed using the Boot Disk Creator software from my "other" ubuntu box
[19:56] <thune3> dunpeal: sudo cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[19:56] <wizard__2012> to add remove programs
[19:56] <jmad980> mubuntu: depends on what kernel it has I belive trim was added in 2.6.33 IIRC
[19:56] <willwork4foo> 3 Atom CPU systems - all using tiny frugal bits of electricity
[19:57] <willwork4foo> and cheap as chips!
[19:57] <techhelper1> !offchat
[19:58] <mubuntu> jmad980:  2.6.32-21 ...so i have to upgrade
[19:58] <Lantizia> techhelper1, are you after #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[19:58] <x3464> I have a quad core processor.  If I add noapic nolapic to the boot parameters, will this impact performance?
[19:58] <techhelper1> that was the thing
[19:58] <wizard__2012> if I do a sudo apt-get remove opera it gives errors
[19:58] <techhelper1> i got it now
[19:58] <ivanmalo> Hi, I dont remember my deposit for passwords password... how can I change it?
[19:58] <willwork4foo> Gah  - Deja-dup is annoying me. I'm going to have to write my OWN rsync cron jobs at this rate!
[19:58] <willwork4foo> hehe
[19:58] <arand_> c3l: And you've tried "pkill -9" as well?
[19:58]  * willwork4foo is not lazy - honest
[19:59] <jmad980> mubuntu: maybe, or just wait until 10.10, but I might be wrong about which kernel, but It was pretty recent
[19:59] <dunpeal> thune3: thanks
[19:59] <c3l> arand_: whats the difference of killall and pkill?
[19:59] <wizard__2012> can someone have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/452588/
[20:00] <mubuntu> jmad980: so 10.10 will have TRIM for sure? in that case I am willing to wait
[20:00] <c3l> arand_: pkill -9 doesnt work either
[20:00] <wizard__2012> this is what i get when uninstall from terminal
[20:00] <ivanmalo> Hi, how can I change my key deposite password?
[20:00] <dunpeal> thune3: I get "no such file or directory"...
[20:00] <jmad980> mubuntu: It should I don't see why the same kernel or lower would be in a later release
[20:00] <mubuntu> jmad980: it"s just the increased performance everybody I know with SSDs is talking about
[20:00] <BurN`> i have a question, is there any possible way to do power schemes for laptops? such as run it in 'high performance' or 'power saver'?
[20:01] <arand_> c3l: use "ps -el | grep Z" Is the process listed there?
[20:01] <c3l> arand_: it was an broken sshfs mount that caused the problem, thanks anyway
[20:01] <wizard__2012> can someone help me
[20:01] <wizard__2012> with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/452588/
[20:01] <willwork4foo> mubuntu: Increased performance from SSDs yes, but also noticeably increased power usage to go with it when system is under heavy load
[20:01] <x3464> I have a quad core processor.  If I add noapic nolapic to the boot parameters, will this impact performance?
[20:01] <willwork4foo> x3464, try it and see?
[20:02] <mubuntu> jmad980: gees, did I see that right. release of 10.10 is in October?! not, willing to wait taht long *g
[20:02] <dunpeal> wizard__2012: did you ensure Opera isn't running when you did it?
[20:02] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, did you already try to delete it yourself manually?
[20:02] <wizard__2012> dunpeal, yes
[20:02] <mubuntu> willwork4foo: Increase power usage is new to me. could you explain further?
[20:02] <DrOptix> greetings, can anyone tell me the status of VIA IGP for linux, I have an Amilo 1705 laptop an I would like to install Ubuntu as my main OS but i have a hard time with 3D GFX (not even Warcraft trough wine don't works), all 2D stuff works ok (somethimes there are little flickers but ok))
[20:02] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, dont no how to do that lol im a noob
[20:03] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, try purge instead of remove
[20:03] <x3464> willwork4foo:  Well it shows only 1 cpu instead of 4.  So should I presume that the other cores aren't being utilized or are all 4 cores being combined into one?
[20:03] <wizard__2012> im good with command line dont no the file of unbuntu like i do windows lol
[20:03] <BurN`> how do i lower power usage for a laptop? my laptop gets too hot when running.
[20:03] <dunpeal> wizard__2012: did you try googling the error message?
[20:04] <willwork4foo> mubuntu, higher throughput = higher power usage. SSD drives use around 2-4 watts when in use, as do normal spinny-disk drives... however spinny-disk drives use around 0.2 - 0.4 watts when idle. SSDs don't have an "idle" state - they are either on, or off
[20:04] <jmad980> mubuntu: yeah... I personaly haven't seen any stable distros running it yet, at least not user friendly ones
[20:04] <wizard__2012> dunpeal, yes same thing when i do purge
[20:04] <willwork4foo> and due to the faster throughput, high load translates to more power used (yes, more stuff gets through in a shorter time...)
[20:04] <wizard__2012> dunpeal, how can i install the add remove program manager
[20:04] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, try apt-get install -f
[20:04] <willwork4foo> basically, 1 chunk of stuff off disk = 1 chunk of power. more chunks of stuff = more chunks of power.
[20:05] <abhi_nav> wizard__2012, go to synaptic manager and type add remove and install it
[20:05] <willwork4foo> there's an article about it on the register - read it yesterday
[20:05] <mubuntu> willwork4foo: but we are talking about 3W here, that's nothing isn't it?
[20:05] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, im trying to remove it
[20:05] <WJW> BurN`:  I wonder whether you could hack the kernel to turn up the fan some.
[20:05] <dunpeal> wizard__2012: try what Lantizia said. Also, the Ubuntu equivalent is probably the Software Center.
[20:05] <idul> how can i find the usb port a device is using? and before you tell me to look at the wire, i mean ttyUSB0, ttyUSB3 etc etc
[20:05] <willwork4foo> mubuntu: nothing unless you're worrying about a very low power system
[20:05] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, I know you are but typing that will resolve anything left unresolved before you do
[20:05] <willwork4foo> I am running a netbook with a tiny battery - power matters to me!
[20:06] <arand_> wizard__2012: I you run "sudo aptitude install -f" does it produce the same error?
[20:06] <BurN`> WJW, in windows i would just click on the battery and chose to let it run in 'power saver' mode, it would work fine. is there any alternative to that in linux?
[20:06] <mubuntu> willwork4foo: I've a 60W system consumption, I guess I will not notice a change
[20:06] <wizard__2012> abhi_nav, i did i cant find it says its installed in all
[20:06] <willwork4foo> mubuntu, I can't imagine you would see much change :)
[20:06] <abhi_nav> wizard__2012, oh ok continue
[20:06] <WJW> One could kill the update process to save a little power, maybe, with spinny disks.
[20:07] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, didnt work same error message
[20:07] <willwork4foo> incidentally, can anyone help me out briefly with a phantom app? I'm trying to install deja-dup, and for some mad reason the icon isn't appearing in my netbook desktop
[20:07] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, you keyed in "sudo apt-get install -f" with nothing else before or after it right?
[20:07] <WJW> BurN`:  Ubuntu does have some power options, but on my machine, they crash it, so I turn them off.
[20:07] <willwork4foo> I've installed it using the software centre, and it says it's in - but I don't see it anywhere
[20:07] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, nope i added opera -f
[20:07] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, try it exactly as I just put it :)
[20:08] <WJW> BurN`:  Maybe on yours they will work better than on my System 76 Pangolin.
[20:08] <willwork4foo> it runs from the commandline though - ah, I'll make my own icon
[20:08]  * willwork4foo is all industrious like that
[20:08] <WJW> BurN`: They're under System from the menu.
[20:08] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, i did same thing :(
[20:08] <thune3> dunpeal: "sudo lshw -C video" there is a line: configuration: driver=
[20:08] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, show me
[20:08] <TaZz> hey ive been tryin to run youtube at full screen and any browser i use crashes .. what can i do to fix that
[20:09] <thune3> dunpeal: i don't think that distinguishes nvidia version though
[20:09] <Joshua_Roberts> more questions, a command to show my monitor information?
[20:09] <BurN`> WJW, im running a dell xps m1330. do you mean system > pref > power management ?
[20:09] <jamesT> hello, earlier today, I shrank my ubuntu partition(just had a straight ubuntu install on my pc) to free up some space for a new partition in the future. I did this with the Gparted live CD. However, upon rebooting, I get the error " Target filesystem doesn't have sbin/init", and am presented with a terminal. What should I do?
[20:09] <WJW> BurN`: yes.
[20:09] <dunpeal> thune3: thanks, I don't know about nvidia versions (your cat solution helped me there), but it does show nouveau.
[20:10] <WJW> jamesT:  Do you have a system backup?
[20:10] <jamesT> WJW: Errr, no
[20:10] <mubuntu> willwork4foo, jmad980: what could you recommend regarding a SSD purchase? wait till 10.10, upgrade? thanks in advance!
[20:10] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452590/ error
[20:10] <jamesT> WJW: I have an ubuntu live CD
[20:11] <willwork4foo> mubuntu, no idea since I've never really bothered with them in personal computing. we use them at work in big Sun 7410 Amber Road arrays, but those are a tad out of my personal price range
[20:11] <BurN`> WJW, i have tried it, but it doesn't really solve my problem. i was looking for more like underclocking or some sort of actual cpu speed change. but is that all linux has to offer for laptops currently?
[20:11] <willwork4foo> right - gotta dash
[20:11] <willwork4foo> cheers ears
[20:11] <WJW> jamesT:  I'm not sure whether you are to the point of having to do drastic things yet, but one thing you could do is back up your personal data, then reinstall Ubuntu in your newly shrunken part of your disk.
[20:11] <WJW> BurN`: To my knowledge.
[20:12] <jamesT> WJW: Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. I'll be able to access the files to back them up with an ubuntu live flash drive right?
[20:12] <BurN`> WJW, ok. thank you
[20:12] <WJW> jamesT: Have you at least started a filesystem check?
[20:12] <kyle_> anyone know of a mail client like evolution
[20:12] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, you get that link ?
[20:12] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, ok try this... "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all opera"
[20:12] <WJW> jamesT: Go into debugfs and set the number of mounts before forced check to zero.  Then reboot.
[20:13] <thunor> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and can't get it to connect to the internet wireless or wired and I need to install grub.
[20:13] <BurN`> kyle_, thunderbird is good
[20:13] <jmad980> mubuntu: I'd prolly wait a bit, regular HDs aren't too horibble
[20:13] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, same lol
[20:13] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, show me
[20:13] <arand_> kyle_: Thungerbird? Claws?
[20:13] <mubuntu> jmad980, OK
[20:13] <kyle_> both support IMAP ?
[20:14] <colorlessprism> thunor, those issues shouldnt be related
[20:14] <arand_> kyle_: You'd be har put finding a client which doesn't
[20:14] <jamesT> WJW: Sorry, complete linux tool here, but eh how would I go into debugfs?
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> hey guys got problem with instaling the latest ati driver, the catalyst doesnt work!
[20:14] <WJW> jamesT:  Did you say you have a shell prompt?
[20:14] <thunor> colorlessprism: Well, I can't seem to figure out how to install grub properly.
[20:14] <timmillwood> Looking for a 10-12 inch laptop with the best spec for under £500 that can run Ubuntu decently, any ideas?
[20:14] <kyle_> OK thanks
[20:14] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452591/ error
[20:15] <colorlessprism> thunor, ubuntu should install that on its own
[20:15] <arand_> thunor: isn't grub already installed then? You can boot into ubuntu?
[20:15] <thunor> colorlessprism: Well, grub is in the etc directory but it's not installed I don't think?
[20:15] <colorlessprism> thunor, it is
[20:15] <jamesT> WJW: ehh, I've got *something* here. I'm not sure if it is bash; just a prompt prefixed by "(initramfs)"
[20:15] <thunor> arand_: It won't give me a screen in the bootloader, it shows a blank cursor.
[20:16] <arand_> thunor: Hold shift whilst it boots.
[20:16] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, ok then! try... "sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq opera"
[20:16] <colorlessprism> thunor, did you try the liveCD and it worked?
[20:16] <thunor> arand_:  During POST?
[20:16] <WJW> jamesT:  If no one else steps forward to give you advice based on understanding of the boot procedures, I'd say bring up your live CD and look at your disk from that.
[20:16] <thunor> colorlessprism: Live CD works, it's all I can use right now.
[20:16] <arand_> thunor: Right after the bios let's go, I reckon
[20:17] <thunor> arand_:  Okay, what's that do btw?
[20:17] <arand_> thunor: Grub checks to se if it was pressed, if it was it shows the menu
[20:17] <xxoxx> hi
[20:17] <thunor> arand_:  Thanks I'll go try that.
[20:17] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, you wont believe it another error lol :( now going to cry lol
[20:17] <xxoxx> how to make a script execute as a certain user?   'su' doesn't work from within scripts
[20:17] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, the same error or different?
[20:18] <WJW> xxoxx:  sudo will work, I believe.
[20:18] <jamesT> WJW: I'm going to back up and reinstall through the live cd. Thanks for your help, much appreciated
[20:18] <WJW> jamesT:  Do you have personal data on your drive?
[20:18] <xxoxx> WJW, ok thanks
[20:18] <wizard__2012> http://paste.ubuntu.com/452597/ error
[20:18] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452597/ error
[20:19] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, I'm out of ideas, that package appears to be in limbo... can not be installed or removed due to the post/preinst script failingf
[20:19] <jamesT> WJW: I mean... I have like a few documents that I'd like to back up and are mildly important
[20:20] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, thanks were can I find the add remove program then its installed but cant get it
[20:20] <arand_> wizard__2012: If you run "dpkg -L opera" does it show any installed files?
[20:20] <ayman> hi every onn
[20:20] <Lantizia> wizard__2012, it won't help you
[20:20] <colorlessprism> ayman, hello
[20:20] <thunor> arand_:  That didn't work, it still just shows the black screen with a blinking cursor.
[20:20] <idul> how can i find the usb port a device is using??? ttyUSB1, ttyUSB3 etc etc i have a palm pilot im trying to setup as a card reader and i dont know what port its on
[20:20] <WJW> jamesT:  I suggest you bring up your live CD as though you were trying Ubuntu without installing.  Then from there, check the file system that may still have data on it that you want to recover.  Then copy them off.  Then install Ubuntu.
[20:20] <arand_> thunor: So at the moment you are unable to boot ubuntu?
[20:20] <jamesT> WJW: sounds like a flan
[20:20] <thunor> arand_: I can't boot anything, except Live CD.
[20:21] <WJW> jamesT:  Ubuntu will run slowly from the live CD, but it will eventually obey your commands.
[20:21] <arand_> thunor: Ah right, I understood you wrong, right, then you'll need to reinstall grub alright.
[20:21] <HeTaL> Anyone know about any free ssh servers that allow ssh tunneling?
[20:21] <arand_> !grub2 | thunor
[20:21] <thunor> arand_: I can't get a connection to the internet to install it.
[20:21] <arand_> thunor: Look at the section about reinstalling
[20:22] <erUSUL> idul: when you plug it look at the last dmesg messages « dmesg | tail -n20 »
[20:22] <wizard__2012> Lantizia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452598/
[20:22] <colorlessprism> thune3, grub has nothing to do with internet
[20:22] <arand_> thunor: All you will need is the liveCD, no need for internet.
[20:22] <thunor> arand_: Okay, thanks.
[20:22] <colorlessprism> thunor, grub has nothing to do with internet
[20:22] <idul> erUSUL: thanks ill give it a go
[20:24] <arand_> wizard__2012: right, hmm, I would at this stage try to reinstall it and then attempt to remove again.
[20:24] <BurN`> does anyone have experience with cpufreqd?
[20:24] <arand_> wizard__2012: Is it installed from a .deb package or from the ubuntu repository.
[20:24] <wizard__2012> arand, tried get error message lol
[20:24] <wizard__2012> arand, i downloaded it from opera page I think
[20:25] <TaZz> anytime i try to do full screen with firefox and youtube i get this the adobe flash plugin has crashed .. how can i fix it
[20:25] <arand_> wizard__2012: "sudo dpkg -i operapackage.deb" ?
[20:25] <rhalff> hi where can I find the patches applied to the kernel ?
[20:25] <wizard__2012> arand, I need to get it removed its in conflick with something i need to install
[20:26] <rhalff> The sky2 driver works in ubuntu but not in gentoo, due to the patches I think, so I want to recommend them to gentoo.
[20:26] <wizard__2012> arand, error
[20:26] <wizard__2012> arand, no such file or dir
[20:27] <arand_> wizard__2012: replace operapackage.deb with the path to the actual deb you downloaded
[20:27] <wizard__2012> download it again then
[20:28] <arand_> wizard__2012: It might be worth a shot, that installing it might fix it and then you'll be able to uninstall it rpoperly.
[20:28] <idul> erUSUL: how do i change it so that /dev/ttyUSB1 is /dev/pilot ??
[20:28] <wizard__2012> arand, i will try that now thanks
[20:29] <Nexxus> how do i install flash via the package manager?
[20:29] <jamesT> Errr, ok. I'm getting an "Unable to mount 90 GB Filesystem: Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock /dev/sda1" error when trying to mount my ubuntu partition from the live CD. Crap.
[20:29] <xnite> I'm having issues with a Dell printer, I followed a tutorial I seen on Ubuntu forum to the T, and still no luck, every time i try using the printer to print a test page (Ubuntu 10.04 btw) I get the following debug output which i have kindly pasted at pastebin. http://pastebin.org/346002
[20:29] <arand_> rhalff: The simplest way would probably be to use git and look through the ubuntu kernel repos: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[20:29] <xnite> this is the tutorial i followed as well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=lexmark+howto
[20:30] <gidna> Hi
[20:30] <rhalff> arand_,  thanks
[20:30] <HeTaL> Anyone know about any free ssh servers that allow ssh tunneling?
[20:30] <gidna> Is it possible to downloada no torrent file with Bittorrent?
[20:30] <xnite> HeTaL, deathrow.vistech.org ?
[20:31] <kswan> Nexxus: Install flashplugin-installer
[20:31] <jamesT> WJW:  "Unable to mount 90 GB Filesystem: Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock /dev/sda1" error when trying to mount my ubuntu partition from the live CD
[20:31] <xnite> HeTaL, telnet deathrow.vistech.org in order to setup your account using the credentials user: NEWUSER pass: NEWUSER
[20:31] <WJW> jamesT:  What type was it?
[20:31] <wizard__2012> arand, it wont work gdebi-gkt could not open the file "opera_10.10.4742.gcc4.qt3_amd64.deb
[20:32] <WJW> jamesT:  Are you sure /dev/sda1 is the part you're interested in?
[20:32] <HeTaL> xnite: I'll check it out. Thanks
[20:32] <xnite> HeTaL, np, btw you only have to telnet the first time until you are assigned one of their servers to ssh into
[20:33] <WJW> jamesT: sudo cat /dev/sda1 | file -
[20:33] <jamesT> WJW: err, it was ext4 ubuntu 10.04? And additionally, there's only 1 partition, the swap partition, and some unallocated space, shouldn't that mean sda1 is the one I want
[20:33] <HeTaL> xnite: Sounds sweet. You think I can bypass a VoIP ban through ssh tunneling?
[20:33] <xnite> hmm
[20:33] <xnite> not sure
[20:33] <arand_> wizard__2012: Well in that case the package is corrupt in some way, either in transit or opera homepage has messed up.
[20:33] <xnite> you just could try it, it's been a while since i setup my account there.
[20:33] <PhoenixSTF> guys i need to remove anyhting realated to ati, to reinstall the latest flgrx, can anyone give me a hand????
[20:34] <WJW> sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[20:34] <WJW> jamesT: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[20:34] <wizard__2012> arand, just twitter to get them, need to report this to them
[20:34] <jamesT> WJW: output is: "/dev/stdin: Linux rev 1.0 ex4 filesystem data, UUID=3d7b0259-9506-48a7-a971-ea206b3b7649 (extents) (large files) (huge files)
[20:35] <lfs> Hey, would any of you know if there is a way to get the bootsplash from 9.10 back in 10.4? I've been searching, and searching, google, ubuntu forums, etc. but to no avail.
[20:35] <WJW> jamesT:  I think some people have been reporting better luck with ext3 than ext4.  There was some trouble reported about it.  I don't know whether that has been solved.
[20:35] <wizard__2012> arand, its not good lol i need to install something like yesterday and this is stopping it
[20:35] <arand_> wizard__2012: It's more likely tre problem was in the download, I reckon, but anyways...
[20:35] <WJW> jamesT: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[20:35] <jamesT> WJW: "Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! Abort<y>?"
[20:36] <jamesT> also: "e2fsck 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010)"
[20:36] <wizard__2012> arand, how do I take a screen shot in ubuntu same as winblows lol
[20:36] <WJW> jamesT:  It sounds as though your FS is quite hosed; I think you might about as well give up and install over it.  I'd format it to ext3.  Maybe see whether anyone else speaks up about trying to recover it.
[20:36] <arand_> lfs: Probably not new version has a new boot manager with it's own set of themes (plymouth)
[20:37] <arand_> wizard__2012: Should be, otherwise there's a screenshot app in the accessories menu I think..
[20:37] <WJW> jamesT:  One could try to find a backup superblock, but I don't know how to find where they are if one does not have the output from the original mkfs.ext4.
[20:37] <wizard__2012> arand, it is just took one thanks getting on to opera about this
[20:37] <TaZz> anyone know why libflashplayer.so keeps crashing no matter what i try .. with anything fullscreen
[20:37] <wizard__2012> arand, thank you very much for all your help
[20:38] <turtle-man> has anyone here successfuly setup LAMP?
[20:38] <tsimpson> turtle-man: are you having trouble?
[20:38] <turtle-man> tsimpson: like you wouldn't believe
[20:39] <tsimpson> turtle-man: from my experience, it's been quite easy to get it generally working
[20:39] <arand_> wizard__2012: I did not contact opera, by the way. Since I don't think I'm not convinced the fault is on their part, yet.
[20:39] <turtle-man> tsimpson: I'm actually trying to install torrentflux-b4rt, but I'm at a stage where I'm trying to access the phpmyadmin that i installed so i can manage the database... but...
[20:40] <lfs> afand_: thanks for replying!  Isn't there a way to replace the bootmanager with the old one?
[20:40] <wizard__2012> arand, I am reporting it lol the must be able to help right
[20:41] <turtle-man> tsimpson: do you think phpmyadmin is the way to go for someone with my exp lvl?
[20:41] <barbarella> lfs:http://fordflux.com/blog/linux/downgrade-grub-2/
[20:42] <arand_> lfs: Likely, but likely it's not worth the effort and instability it would resut in, I have no idea how, either (btw the term is boot splash if you are going to be googling...)
[20:42] <HeTaL> xnite: What type of shell is this? o.O
[20:43] <jamesT> WJW: back on the terminal I'm given on bootup, I tried "ls" but I can't see the /home/" folder, only "conf", "sys", "tmp", "proc", "root", etc. Maybe If I could find my files here I could copy them over to the flash drive
[20:43] <wizard__2012> arand, i did it lol I removed it
[20:43] <jamesT> WJW: To be honest, I'd be ok with just reading one of the text files on the drive, which has a password which I kind of need
[20:43] <WJW> You didn't make /home a mounted FS, did you?
[20:43] <chrometiger> is there anything remotely like  bumptop for linux right now ?
[20:44] <jamesT> WJW: Don't think so
[20:44] <WJW> jamesT:  Try a "find" for the filename.
[20:44] <lfs> arand_: thanks :) I'll stay on the google
[20:44] <arand_> wizard__2012: Installing and then removing worked then?
[20:45] <WJW> jamesT:  I think you are probably SOL.
[20:45] <charlie_barkin_> I have downloaded jolicloud and tested it.
[20:45] <jamesT> WJW: So do I
[20:45] <jamesT> yeah, nothing is showing up in find
[20:45] <tsimpson> turtle-man: what's the problem accessing phpmyadmin?
[20:45] <WJW> jamesT:  Maybe mkfs has an option to pretend to run but not write to any disk.
[20:45] <turtle-man> tsimpson: 404
[20:45] <jamesT> WJW: Nothing seems to be here besides basic linux libraries and files
[20:46] <arand_> barbarella: lfs: The boot splash screen has nothing to do with grub, it's xsplash(karmic) and plymouth(lucid) that handles that.
[20:46] <turtle-man> tsimpson: it's just 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin  right?
[20:46] <wizard__2012> arand, it never installed right so went back to the terminal and tried to remove again and it worked so thanks lol
[20:46] <lfs> barbarella:thanks, but it is not grub2 that was bugging me, it was the old splash of 9.10 I was hoping to install instead of one in 10.04
[20:46] <WJW> Anybody, how do you guess where to find a backup superblock?
[20:46] <tsimpson> turtle-man: yeah, that should work
[20:47] <turtle-man> tsimpson: but it's not :( i even tried to do apt-get again
[20:47] <arand_> wizard__2012: :) Well important thing is it's solved.
[20:47] <wizard__2012> arand, yes it is lol
[20:47] <tsimpson> turtle-man: do you have another site enabled?
[20:47] <WJW> jamesT:  Format a spare part of your partition, and see where mkfs puts the first backup superblock, and try the same block number on your hosed FS.
[20:47] <turtle-man> tsimpson: is there another step after i do apt-get install? the tutorial i was following seemed to leave a lot out
[20:47] <arand_> WJW: fsck has aan option to "use another superblock" or similar I think...
[20:48] <WJW> arand_:  Sure, if you know what block number to give it.
[20:48] <turtle-man> tsimpson: I have the fluxtorrent-b4rt setup open, if that's what you mean
[20:48] <tsimpson> turtle-man: when you install phpmyadmin it should ask you what http server it should be setup for, I just chose apache from there
[20:49] <turtle-man> tsimpson: like, it'll just pop up after install and ask me?
[20:49] <tsimpson> turtle-man: it asked during the install, in the console
[20:50] <turtle-man> hm...it didn't...
[20:50] <WJW> jamesT:  Study the man page for mkfs.ext3 and see whether it has an option to pretend to work and not write to any disk.
[20:50] <tsimpson> turtle-man: see if "sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin" shows it
[20:50] <dragon4ce> know how to set an percentage of cpu power to a single process? i want to make my server convert video's without losing stability
[20:50] <turtle-man> tsimpson: k thnx... I'll try that
[20:50] <WJW> jamesT: I meant ext4.
[20:51] <arand_> dragon4ce: Nice and renice can set process priority, I'm not sure if you hard set percentages...
[20:52] <arand_> dragon4ce: *If you can hard-set percentages
[20:52] <dragon4ce> arand_: thanks ill check the man pages
[20:53] <dragon4ce> arand_: hmm the man page doesnt say anything about it, only about priority
[20:55] <dragon4ce> arand_: point is, if i convert it at full speed apache2 reacts verry slow, so limiting ffmpeg would be a good idee ;)
[20:56] <arand_> dragon4ce: Yea, I don't know there are tools to set a specific percentage, nice will set process priority more dynamically, but it should allow for the limiting you are after I reckon.
[20:57] <dries_> hello everyone
[20:57] <arand_> !hello
[20:57] <dragon4ce> arand_: just found  info coreutils 'nice invocation' thanks!
[20:58] <dries_> could anyone help me with a tiny question concerning wc3 in wine?
[20:58] <lfs> set activity_hide_targets "has quit"
[20:58] <Pen> For windows there is a program called "CCleaner" is there something similar for Ubuntu?
[20:58] <turtle-man> tsimpson: still getting a 404
[20:59] <arand_> Pen: bleachbit, but like ccleaner, it should be used with extreme caution
[20:59] <Pen> hmm
[20:59] <dries_> I'd like be able to run wc3 through wine with -opengl flag without having to do it through the console, does anyone know how to go about this?
[20:59] <Pen> Why is that ?
[20:59] <turtle-man> tsimpson: but i did notice something about making a database... I don't think that an existing database could cause this, could it?
[21:00] <tim42> Pen: Computer Janitor should be in System -> Administration, but everything I've seen/read says it does a poor job
[21:01] <DrkStr> so is there any other way to make all windows in ubuntu transparent other than compiz ...? The reason why I ask is because my video card does not support compiz
[21:01] <tsimpson> turtle-man: phpmyadmin needs a database to work apparently, after it asked me if I wanted it to create the database, it asked "Please choose the web server that should be automatically configured to run phpMyAdmin.", one option was "apache2"
[21:01] <dries_> I assume this can probably be fixed with some sort of script, but I've no idea how to go about this..
[21:02] <arand_> DrkStr: As far as I know no, transparency requires compositing, which requires gfx acceleration.
[21:02] <soreau> DrkStr: The best you'll get is transparency from apps that already support it like gnome-terminal and even then it will just show the desktop background (not actually what is behind it)
[21:02] <DrkStr> right on
[21:03] <soreau> DrkStr: You can get a compiz capable graphics card for under 10 bucks nowadays if upgrading is an option (desktop).. which card do you have currently?
[21:03] <DrkStr> i dont remember one sec soreau
[21:03] <Flomaster> I am having problems opening programs that were previously working  example. Google Chrome, storage mananger, NTFS manager, Mount manager, my 2 extra hard drive are no longer available to mount and are not being mounted on startup like they usually do. I get an error.  an error occurred when mounting /media/sdc1 press s to skip or m for manual recovery
[21:04] <kaziem> hi, could someone help me setting up a vpn server on my lucid? Like, point me to some documentation resource
[21:04] <dries_> Could anyone here help me writing a tiny script for wine?
[21:04] <kaziem> i know i have to give the vpn client an IP range
[21:04] <star314> When unmounting my ext3 usb-drive by means of right-click and choosing "safely remove drive" (GNOME) I'm getting the following error: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4269/errortmq.jpg
[21:05] <kaziem> should it be the same IP range as the private subnet of the server?
[21:05] <star314> Any ideas how to get rid of that?
[21:05] <arand_> !vpn | kaziem
[21:05] <arand_> kaziem: I'm not sure if that is of any help though...
[21:06] <turtle-man> tsimpson: okay, chose apache2 (that is the server i have) but when i got to make the database... It's asking me unix socket or tcp/ip I have no idea what to chose for the database
[21:06] <Flomaster> anyone in here familiar with  NTFS hard drives
[21:07] <Flomaster> they two storage drives I are NTFS formatted
[21:07] <tsimpson> turtle-man: it looks like it's asking you all the "low priority" questions too, anyway "unix socket" it the option you want there
[21:07] <DrkStr> soreau
[21:07] <dries_> Does anyone know how to write a small script for wine?
[21:08] <kaziem> arand, thanks
[21:08] <DrkStr> I have a VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)
[21:08] <tsimpson> turtle-man: other than the questions asking for the password(s), the default selected options should work
[21:08] <kaziem> arand, i need to read some literature about the different vpn options, like ipsec pptpd and the like
[21:08] <shoopdawoop> !ask | Flomaster
[21:08] <turtle-man> tsimpson: should i be using the default admin username?
[21:09] <soreau> DrkStr: VIA has drivers for the CN896 and P4M900 chipsets which, according to the release notes, support AIGLX and compiz.  You can download the drivers here: http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action
[21:09] <turtle-man> tsimpson: okay, I'll just try to blast through these questions :P
[21:09] <soreau> DrkStr: But, you have P4M800 which may be right under the limit
[21:09] <lfs> Flomaster: Sounds like a good time to fire up windoze and give them a filesystem check
[21:09] <kaziem> arand, also this looks like vpn client configuration not server
[21:09] <soreau> DrkStr: If you have an open card slot, put an ati or nvidia graphics card in it
[21:10] <Flomaster> lfs: I dont have windows it wouldn't install due to a sata driver issue with my Mobo. hence why I had to use Linux
[21:10] <soreau> bbiab
[21:10] <tsimpson> turtle-man: the "Name of the database's administrative user" is "root", with whatever password you set mysql up with, and "phpmyadmin" is fine for the "MySQL username for phpmyadmin"
[21:10] <lfs> Flomaster: are the drives external or internal?
[21:11] <zus> does anyone use "giver"? i'm the only linux machine on a windows network can i still use giver?
[21:11] <Flomaster> lfs: I must install my sata driver via  FLOPPY DISK via XP and win 7 told me the driver I had on usb stick didn't match anything hardware I had
[21:12] <dries_> Could anyone help me write a script to launch wc3 through wine with -opengl flag?
[21:12] <Flomaster> lfs: the drive are internal and were working just fine until I got this  error about not being about to mount /media/sdc1 press s to skip or m for manual recovery
[21:12] <edbian> dries_, I can :)
[21:12] <edbian> dries_, Now, I don't know what wc3 is but I doubt it matters
[21:13] <dries_> ah, thanks edbian :)
[21:13] <dries_> warcraft 3
[21:13] <DrkStr> i have a open slot
[21:13] <edbian> dries_, Do you know how to make a script that does anything?
[21:13] <Flomaster> lfs: I pressed "S" now certian programs don't launch  like Google chrome, disk manager, NTSF manager , MountManager
[21:13] <dries_> afraid not :p
[21:13] <dries_> let's move this to pm
[21:14] <phuzion> Hey, what's the md5sum for ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[21:14] <annodomini> I just installed Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron with a Broadcom 4353 wireless card.
[21:14] <annodomini> After installing the drivers, wireless worked for a little while, but it has now stopped working and I can't figure out how to re-enable it.
[21:15] <lfs> Flomaster: Pity. NTFS is still not fully supported by linux, so if it is a filesystem error, chances of fixing them are much better from within windows
[21:15] <lfs> Flomaster: What was the S option?
[21:15] <axon> sorry, i try to get my dvb-t usbstick ready, but ubuntu doesn't find him?
[21:15] <annodomini> This happened after trying to put the computer to sleep, and then waking it up again.
[21:15] <axon> what can i do
[21:15] <axon> With debian i had never problems
[21:16] <tim42> phuzion: probably d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8
[21:16] <Flomaster> lfs:  skip mounting my hard sdb1
[21:16] <lfs> Flomaster: so the prompt doesn't appear again now when you try to mount?
[21:16] <tim42> and I say probably because that's what i just calculated right now, not checking my sources
[21:16] <lfs> Flomaster: were the misfunctioning programs located on the drives?
[21:16] <annodomini> I found a bug in which people recommended disabling network manager, deleting /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state, and then restarting network manager, which worked to allow me to get networking enabled again.
[21:17] <annodomini> But I still cannot enable wireless for some reason.
[21:17] <annodomini> Any idea where I should look next?
[21:17] <Flomaster> lfs: no they installed to the drive Ubuntu is installed on
[21:18] <Flomaster> I had the drive set up to mount when booting up as these dives are for media related content and need to be mounted automatically
[21:18] <DrkStr> so what driver would i install for the video card i have
[21:18] <lfs> Flomaster: what's the file system on the Ubuntu drive?
[21:19] <tim42> phuzion: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/MD5SUMS
[21:19] <Flomaster> lfs: I formatted it when installing ubuntu  its a 30 gig sata western digital 10K RPM drive
[21:20] <phuzion> tim, thanks
[21:20] <Flomaster> I think my user has lost root access,  when I tried to run a sudo command I got this error message " must be setuid root"
[21:20] <paul111> hi guys
[21:21] <lfs> Flomaster: If the applications are located on a different drive to the ones not working, likely the ubuntu drive was damaged as well, when the other drives were damaged
[21:21] <annodomini> iwconfig reports information on eth1, so I assume that the wireless drivers are working, but networkmanager steems to be confused somehow.
[21:21] <annodomini> Anyone have ideas on what I should try next?
[21:21] <lfs> are you on the list of `cat /etc/sudo` ?
[21:21] <lfs> Flomaster:are you on the list of `cat /etc/sudo` ?
[21:21] <Flomaster> when I tried to open from the task menu system>admin>users and groups I get this error " the configuration could not be loaded: an unknown error occurred"
[21:22] <guntbert> Flomaster: sounds like you changed the permissions of /usr/bin/sudo
[21:22] <dbusprob> i installed xubuntu onto my laptop and then the gnome desktop environment. My built-in wireless does not work and tried to solve the problem by clicking System-Administration-Hardware Drivers but i get the error "Cannot connect to D-BUS" can anyone help me?
[21:22] <turtle-man> tsimpson: it's still not working,,, but I'm feeling drained so i think that means it's lunch time. thanks for the help
[21:22] <Flomaster> guntbert: so I am basically SOL and must re-install Ubuntu?
[21:22] <sunshine_guest_x> ciao
[21:22] <paul111> annodomini, ifconfig eth1 up
[21:22] <thune3> Flomaster: guntbert: or /etc/sudoers file
[21:23] <guntbert> Flomaster: no, you can repair it from the recovery system
[21:23] <paddy_> for a 1000 people chanel this is quite slow
[21:24] <Flomaster> guntbert: I am an extremely NOOB when it comes to Linux
[21:24] <guntbert> thune3: if you read what he said: there was a wrong permission stated, not a "you may not use sudo"
[21:24] <paul111> paddy_, later on it will get faster when more will chat quickly..
[21:24] <annodomini> paul111: did that, networkmanager still reports wireless as disabled, iwconfig reports "IEEE 802.11  Access Point: Not-Associated"
[21:25] <annodomini> (and the "Enable Wireless" option in networkmanager is greyed out)
[21:25] <thune3> guntbert: i don't think sudo will let you use if sudoers permissions are open.
[21:26] <Flomaster> POS computer I can't wait until next month so I can buy a new HTPC
[21:26] <Flomaster> thune3: any ideas on what I can try?
[21:26] <guntbert> thune3: thx for the input - we'll let him check
[21:27] <guntbert> Flomaster: please paste the output of ls -l /etc/sudoers and of ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[21:27] <paul111> annodomini, iwlist eth1 scan
[21:27] <Flare183> No matter what I try to do I can't find a xorg.conf file at all. so does this mean I can't setup dual monitors?
[21:28] <Flomaster> guntbert: jason@HTPC:~$ ls -l /etc/sudoers and of ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[21:28] <Flomaster> ls: cannot access and: No such file or directory
[21:28] <Flomaster> ls: cannot access of: No such file or directory
[21:28] <Flomaster> ls: cannot access ls: No such file or directory
[21:28] <Flomaster> -r--r----- 1 root root    609 2010-06-05 23:25 /etc/sudoers
[21:28] <FloodBot3> Flomaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <Flomaster> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 127664 2010-04-13 10:43 /usr/bin/sudo
[21:28] <Flomaster> shoot sorry for that guys I forgot to pastebin
[21:28] <annodomini> paul111: If I run that without sudo, I get "eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.", with sudo I get "eth1      Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument"
[21:29] <lfs> Flare183: The
[21:29] <guntbert> Flomaster: thune3: permissions for both files look ok to me
[21:29] <Aeroraptor> hayhaaaaaaaaaaay
[21:30] <Aeroraptor> sup britches
[21:30] <paddy_> can we change floodbot so that it is a bit more lienet with muting people? 4-5 lines isnt realy killing the chanel is it?
[21:30] <paul111> annodomini, ifwconfig (paste out put)
[21:30] <lfs> Flare183: The xorg.conf is not needed for standard config, but you can still place one in /etc/X11/ if you like
[21:30] <guntbert> Flomaster: what is the exact error with sudo ls ?
[21:31] <annodomini> paul111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452621/
[21:31] <Flomaster> guntbert: sudo: must be setuid root
[21:32] <guntbert> Flomaster: strange, /usr/bin/sudo *is* suid root ... hmm please type: which sudo
[21:32] <james296> has anyone here noticed Empathy is no longer integrated with the Me Menu??
[21:33] <paul111> annodomini, ok eth1 is your wireless so do (ifconfig eth1 up) & then iwlist eth1 scan (sudo)
[21:33] <Flomaster> guntbert: /usr/bin/sudo
[21:33] <vallhalla> do i need somthing extra to make mplayer play in  framebuffer on ubuntu because i am getting video  playback in black and white with small vertical  lines when i try
[21:34] <annodomini> paul111: I get "Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument" again
[21:34] <ociredeF> hello everyone
[21:34] <ociredeF> got kind of a big problem
[21:34] <ociredeF> anybody in here's got an eee asus?
[21:34] <paul111> annodomini, lspci -v (paste the output)
[21:35] <vallhalla> !asking
[21:35] <guntbert> Flomaster: it gets stranger, I thought that you might have a second copy of that file somewhere else and that would get executed - but it seems ok too -- thune3 do you spot anything wrong?
[21:35] <ociredeF> does anybodi in here's got an asus eee?
[21:35] <annodomini> paul111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452626/
[21:36] <vallhalla> ociredeF: please just ask
[21:36] <thune3> Flomaster: guntbert: the only things left are the groups (adm or admin) i forget, the content of sudoers, and maybe /bin/su permissions
[21:36] <Flomaster> guntbert: I had been geting that mount error every so often, then I would reboot and the drive would mount as it should,but now it fails to mount every time.
[21:36] <ociredeF> ok,.... I got this computer with ubuntu remix
[21:36] <babalu> hello, what can i use instead of skype on ubuntu?
[21:37] <ociredeF> and it doesn't detects the thumb usbs
[21:37] <bullgard_> Evolution 2.28.3: Why can I not mark a certain e-mail as "read" although I can mark so virtually all others?
[21:37] <Flomaster> thune3: guntbert  output is : Unknown id: permissions
[21:37] <ociredeF> I am trying to reinstall ubuntu from a pen drive
[21:37] <ociredeF> and I cannot even get the thumbs to work
[21:37] <BITZI> hi:) I need help to connect my Dell Inspiron 1564 to the wireless network. The OS is UBUNTU 10.04 64bit and the wifi card is dell 1397
[21:38] <guntbert> thune3: good call, although we cannot check sudoers right now -- Flomaster: your last line was from what command?
[21:38] <Flomaster> guntbert: /bin/su permissions thune3
[21:39] <Flomaster> thune3: guntbert I did not type thune3 after my command line
[21:39] <guntbert> Flomaster: that would be ls -l /bin7su
[21:39] <annodomini> paul111: Here's the version of that as root, with a bit more information in case it's relevant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452630/
[21:39] <lfs> Flomaster: try: groups
[21:39] <guntbert> /bin/su
[21:39] <BITZI> hi:) I need help to connect my Dell Inspiron 1564 to the wireless network. The OS is UBUNTU 10.04 64bit and the wifi card is dell 1397
[21:39] <vallhalla> ociredeF: so what bit of that would you like help with?
[21:39] <ociredeF> vallhalla
[21:40] <ociredeF> sorry,... well I actually need it to recognize the usb
[21:40] <ociredeF> if I want to reinstall linux
[21:40] <Flomaster> guntbert: thune3  /sin/su =  password: I typeit in then I get " su: authentication failure"
[21:40] <ociredeF> right?
[21:40] <annodomini> BITZI: I'd recommend describing the problem that you're having
[21:40] <paul111> annodomini, broadcom (hp) ?
[21:40] <annodomini> BITZI: once you describe the problem, someone here might be able to help
[21:40] <guntbert> Flomaster: please type exactly: ls -l /bin/su
[21:40] <vallhalla> ok open a terminal and withe the usb NOT pluged in type ls /dev/sd*
[21:41] <guntbert> Flomaster: ls -l  shows you details about a file
[21:41] <annodomini> paul111: What's you're question? It's a broadcom 4353 card according to lspci
[21:42] <thune3> Flomaster: guntbert: i'd like to see the output of "groups"
[21:42] <paul111> annodomini, so it is hp (laptop)
[21:42] <Flomaster> guntbert: thune3 pastebin of ls -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/452631/
[21:42] <seidos> anyone here use vi?
[21:42] <annodomini> paul111: No, it's a dell laptop
[21:42] <seidos> can you paste from one session of vi to another in too separate terminals?
[21:42] <lfs> thune3: Flomaster guntbert: me too: groups
[21:42] <Flomaster> thune3: guntbert  groups =  jason adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev admin nopasswdlogin sambashare
[21:43] <annodomini> paul111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452630/  "Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4353 (rev 01)
[21:43] <annodomini> 	Subsystem: Dell Device 000e"
[21:43] <BITZI> I just purchased the dell inspiron 1564 and I installed ubuntu 10.04 64bit. It just doesn't see any wireless lan (othe machines can connect to wifi but my laptop cannt. I am new to ubuntu and I need to know what I can do to connect. The wifi card is dell 1397
[21:43] <paul111> annodomini, do you have windows driver (it was working well on windows i guess)
[21:43] <annodomini> paul111: Yeah, the wireless was working fine on Windows
[21:44] <lfs> Flomaster: the command is "ls -l /bin/su" -- without the quotes
[21:44] <DrGrov> Any good 3d benchmark program in the repositories for Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:44] <guntbert> Flomaster: the output of groups looks good
[21:44] <DrGrov> Want to test my nVidia 250 GTS 1GB
[21:44] <annodomini> paul111: and it was working fine on Ubuntu for a little while, but then I had to forcibly reboot, and it hasn't come back again
[21:44] <paul111> !ndiswrapper
[21:44] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok open a terminal and withe the usb NOT pluged in type ls /dev/sd* what does it show?
[21:44] <Flomaster> guntbert: thune3 lfs -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 31100 2010-01-26 10:09 /bin/su
[21:44] <rtronk> how's everyone today? i seem to be having a problem with ventrilo, if i type ./ventrilo_srv -d which is suppost to run ventrilo_srv in deamon (background) mode. i get no such file or directory, but if i type ls i have the file there, any help please?
[21:45] <guntbert> Flomaster: looks good too - I'm out of ideas - sorry
[21:45] <vallhalla> rtronk: does sh ventrillo_srv -d work?
[21:45] <paul111> annodomini, were you getting connected to internet
[21:45] <ociredeF> vallhalla: /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5
[21:45] <Flomaster> guntbert:  thanks for the help I think I might have to re-install :(
[21:46] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok now plug the usb in and do the same again what does it show?
[21:46] <annodomini> paul111: Yes, everything was working fine, until I restarted the machine (forcefully, as it didn't wake properly from sleep)
[21:46] <duffydack> DrGrov, there is something, I forget its name..  ugh.  Its similar to 3dmark
[21:46] <duffydack> DrGrov, dont think its in the repo tho
[21:46] <DrGrov> duffydack: ok, thanks. i will check into it
[21:46] <BITZI> the laptop is just new and I use lan now
[21:47] <kroson> hi everyone
[21:47] <BITZI> never connected via wireless
[21:47] <kroson> im having a serious trouble with the latest version of ubuntu, 10.04
[21:47] <guntbert> Flomaster: reinstall is seldom the sensible thing to do - although it depends on how new your system is too (the newer the less work is lost)
[21:47] <kroson> my wireless connection is always going down
[21:47] <paul111> annodomini, then how many times did you give a reboot?
[21:47] <kroson> my card is intel 3945 and im using wpa/wpa2 security method
[21:47] <kroson> what may the problem be?
[21:48] <kroson> i cant be online for something longer than 10 minutes
[21:48] <radikal> hello, sombody can help me , i want  restore my computer like first day whiout re-format
[21:48] <ociredeF> / /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1
[21:48] <Flomaster> guntbert: pretty new system. but its an HTPC and really only thing I use it for is newsgroup downloading and XBMC thats all all my media is on the other hard drive that are not showing up at the moment
[21:48] <paul111> annodomini, then try a different network-manager (wicd)
[21:48] <kroson> and if i start downloading something it goes down and needs to restart, which is very annoying
[21:48] <kroson> any solution on this?
[21:48] <kroson> tks
[21:48] <annodomini> paul111: Hmm. Once maybe? Twice maybe? I can't recall at this point; it was a few days ago.
[21:48] <bullgard_> Evolution 2.28.3: Why can I not mark a certain e-mail as "read" although I can mark so virtually all others?
[21:48] <ociredeF> vallhalla:/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1
[21:48] <annodomini> paul111: Do you have a reference for how to use wicd?
[21:49] <paul111> annodomini, wicd could solve the issue..
[21:49] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok it has found your card just not mounted it
[21:49] <guntbert> Flomaster: well its up to you - but regarding the time you put into fixing this -- reinstalling might be indeed quicker -- Good luck :-)
[21:49] <duffydack> DrGrov, http://unigine.com/
[21:49] <vallhalla> ociredeF: do you know what format the usb stick is?
[21:49] <DrGrov> duffydack: thanks, checking
[21:49] <ociredeF> vallhalla: so how come when I try to reinstall it I don't get it to boot from that disk?
[21:49] <Flomaster> guntbert: thanks im gonna reboot once more and see if the problem is still there if it is I am going to do a fresh install
[21:50] <vallhalla> ociredeF: do you know what format the usb stick is?
[21:50] <ociredeF> I formated on UNetbootin
[21:50] <ociredeF> fat
[21:50] <guntbert> Flomaster: :-)
[21:50] <lfs> Flomaster: Good luck!
[21:50] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok there is a better way
[21:50] <thune3> Flomaster: the only thing left (that I can think of) would be to come in from rescue or Livecd and try to install a clean /etc/sudoers file.
[21:51] <kroson> my wireless connection is always going down, it is always disconnecting after some time and if i start downloading something it goes down and disconnects. It is an intel 3945 and im using wpa/wpa2, plz is there a solution? tks
[21:51] <ociredeF> vallhalla: I will worship you forever if you get this to work
[21:51] <Flomaster> thune3: I have no idea how to go about doing that, but I do know how to change bios to boot from cd drive and install again
[21:51] <vallhalla> ociredeF: first do you have the iso of the distro you are installing? and what operating system are you using unetbooting
[21:51] <c3l> is there any good consolebased music player out there?
[21:52] <duffydack> c3l, mpd ?
[21:52] <vallhalla> c3l: mocp
[21:52] <ociredeF> I am using unetbooting on ubuntu
[21:52] <Flomaster> YES XBMC is starting I can export my settings and save HOURS worth of work
[21:52] <ociredeF> and I will try zenwalk
[21:52] <duffydack> c3l, xmms2
[21:52] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok first of in a terminal type sudo gparted
[21:52] <c3l> duffydack: i dont want to bother with a server on this comp, using mpd on my htpc though
[21:52] <paul111> kroson, after connection to internet ; for how long it gets disconnected?
[21:52] <kroson> my wireless connection is always going down, it is always disconnecting after some time and if i start downloading something it goes down and disconnects. It is an intel 3945 and im using wpa/wpa2, plz is there a solution? c'mon guys this is really annoying. Tks
[21:52] <kroson> paul111: about 10 minutes
[21:52] <kroson> but it varies
[21:53] <thune3> Flomaster: from live cd you could mount the installed parition, "sudo cp -p /etc/sudoers /your/mnt/point/etc/sudoers"
[21:53] <c3l> vallhalla: duffydack thanks Ill check it out
[21:53] <annodomini> paul111: I'm trying out wicd now, I'll let you know if it helps at all.
[21:53] <ociredeF> vallhalla: done
[21:53] <kroson> i simply go online, watch some sites and it disconnects
[21:53] <Maex> Hello is there a possibility to start a installed Win7 as a VM, but without virtuell harddrive?
[21:53] <kroson> imagine downloading the restricted nvidia driver, i can only get about 10% or like that, then puff down!
[21:53] <paul111> kroson, did you try a different newwork-manager ?
[21:53] <kroson> no but i dont think thats the problem
[21:53] <paul111> kroson, did you try a different network-manager ?
[21:54] <kroson> as it worked fine in fedora 13, which also uses the network manager, and windows works fine too
[21:54] <duffydack> c3l,  http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/several-powerful-console-music-players.html
[21:54] <vallhalla> ok there is a bit in the top right that drops down to show devices eg:sda sdb
[21:54] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ^
[21:54] <ociredeF> sorry?
[21:54] <paul111> kroson, wicd network-manager (will work for you)
[21:55] <BITZI> I just purchased the dell inspiron 1564 and I installed ubuntu 10.04 64bit. It just doesn't see any wireless lan (other machines can connect to wifi but my laptop cann't. I am new to ubuntu and I need to know what I can do to connect.
[21:55] <BITZI> I am new to UBUNTU and linux. and I need help to activate my wireless. (I 've turned on the wifi switch of course!) maybe a driver required for my dell 1397 wireless card??
[21:55] <vallhalla> ociredeF: there is a bit in gparted that is on the top right  hand side
[21:55] <kroson> paul111: so wicd will do fine?
[21:55] <kroson> do i need to remove this one?
[21:55] <wizard_2010> can someone help with route add -net 0.0.0.0 dev ppp0
[21:55] <wizard_2010> SIOCADDRT: No such device
[21:55] <wizard_2010> I'm wireless
[21:55] <annodomini> BITZI: Have you tried opening System > Administration > Hardware Drivers to see if there's a driver you can install?
[21:55] <kroson> i really like this network manager as it concentrates all the network connections that we have
[21:55] <xxu> when i try to create a symbolic link to an irssi script, it works, but when i double click on the symbolic link, ubuntu tells me it's broken. can anyone help please?
[21:56] <ociredeF> vallhalla: I can see where your going
[21:56] <paul111> kroson, yes (i too had the same..thing got solved with wicd; and now working just fine)
[21:56] <ociredeF> it's formated on fat32
[21:56] <vallhalla> ociredeF: if you click it it should show some thing like /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[21:56] <annodomini> paul111: wicd doesn't seem to see any wireless networks either
[21:56] <BITZI> annod: yes I 've
[21:56] <kroson> paul111: was it? what is your wireless card?
[21:56] <vallhalla> ociredeF: do you see your usb stick there?
[21:56] <ociredeF> vallhalla: yes
[21:56] <ociredeF> it's /dev/sdd1
[21:57] <kroson> paul111: do i need to remove this network manager?
[21:57] <vallhalla> ok click on that one now be sure it is the correct one
[21:57] <paul111> annodomini, i am using ibm t41
[21:57] <wintallo> How do I check what applications are run on startup in ubuntu server 10.04?
[21:57] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: sure I am here
[21:57] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: its flagged boot
[21:58] <paul111> kroson, no don't remove simply just install wicd (first it will detect and get the address for the network-manager and then wicd controls it.
[21:58] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok now if you are sure you are on the correct one (as this can not be undone) del the partition in the usb drive
[21:59]  * duffydack uses interfaces file for wifi
[21:59] <kroson> paul111: there seems to be many people using it so it might work
[21:59] <paul111> annodomini, so we will have to go ndiswrapper (a last resort)
[21:59] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: how do I get this done?
[21:59] <amokpaule> Hello, to use the vnc service that comes with ubuntu on a windows system what software should i download for windows?
[22:00] <Guest13391> Question: my external hard drive has been having problems.   Unmounted ran fsck -C -V /dev/xxx# several times, progress stalls at 9.8% everytime.  I have no idea where to go from here.
[22:00] <annodomini> paul111: Hmm. I just noticed that there's a button for enabling wireless on my keyboard. Pressing that allows me to enable it in networkmanager, but I still can't see any networks.
[22:00] <paul111> annodomini, it varies on hardware..
[22:00] <xxu> when i try to create a symbolic link to an irssi script, it works, but when i double click on the symbolic link, ubuntu tells me it's broken. can anyone help please?
[22:00] <joshua__> spreeuw: I don't know what you mean by recent, I am using what ever came with ubutnu 10.04
[22:00] <vallhalla> ociredeF: click the partition then select delete
[22:01] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: I cannot press delete
[22:01] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok then right click then click unmount
[22:01] <paul111> annodomini, now the magic button is on type in terminal ifconfig eth1 up
[22:01] <vallhalla> ociredeF: click the partition then select delete
[22:01] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: ok, done
[22:02] <annodomini> paul111: Yeah, I tried that, and iwlist eth1 scan
[22:02] <vallhalla> ociredeF: all delited?
[22:02] <paul111> kroson, let me know when you are done.
[22:02] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: yeap
[22:02] <annodomini> paul111: still not working; I'm not seeing any networks.
[22:02] <xxu> when i try to create a symbolic link to an irssi script, it works, but when i double click on the symbolic link, ubuntu tells me it's broken. can anyone help please?
[22:02] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok now close gparted and go to a terminal
[22:02] <annodomini> paul111: I'm thinking of just restarting to get myself into a cleaner state; I'll be back in a minute.
[22:02] <ociredeF>  vallhalla: Im here
[22:02] <cecure> Update:  I guess I never waited long enough after about a 20 min stall on 9.8 it has begun to move again
[22:03] <paul111> annodomini, may be you give a restart..with the magic button on..then will see (scan)
[22:03] <xxu> hello?
[22:04] <b1tw1s3> anyone know of a blog/resource/wiki/etc that keeps tabs on the latest User Interface Design/Desktop enhancements (3d desktop, multitouch,etc) .. more academic than commercial
[22:04] <IdleOne> xxu: you can try asking in #irssi if nobody here knows
[22:04] <wintallo> How do I check what applications are run on startup in command line?
[22:04] <xxu> IdleOne: i did
[22:04] <xxu> they told me to come here
[22:04] <vallhalla> ociredeF: ok now in the terminal type sudo dd if=/home/yourusername/place/where/iso/file/is of=/dev/sdc1 bs=4M;sync
[22:05] <vallhalla> ociredeF: it will look blank for about 10 min
[22:05] <annodomini> paul111: Looks like it's working now that I've rebooted.
[22:06] <paul111> annodomini, what about the scan results??
[22:06]  * duffydack uses the http://psychoticspoon.blogspot.com/2009/01/booting-multiple-livecds-from-single.html method for booting off usb using iso files, so simple to cat across new isos :)
[22:06] <ociredeF> vallhalla: didn't go blank
[22:06] <vallhalla> ociredeF: what did it do?
[22:07] <ociredeF> 129+1 records in
[22:07] <ociredeF> 129+1 records out
[22:07] <ociredeF> 545095680 bytes (545 MB) copied, 2.69414 s, 202 MB/s
[22:07] <annodomini> paul111: yeah, iwlist eth1 scan is working now too
[22:07] <ociredeF> well that
[22:07] <FloodBot3> ociredeF: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <xxu> when i try to create a symbolic link to an irssi script, it works, but when i double click on the symbolic link, ubuntu tells me it's broken. can anyone help please?
[22:07] <ociredeF> oops
[22:07] <annodomini> paul111: after the restart; before that, it was giving me the same error message as before.
[22:07] <xuxin> hey. i'm using ssh to connect to my server at home, and i've started a download with rtorrent. i tabbed back to prompt, now i'm trying to tab back to rtorrent, but i'm not sure how. does anyone know? how to tab between aps in ssh prompt
[22:07] <vallhalla> ociredeF: then that should be it done
[22:07] <ociredeF> http://paste.ubuntu.com/452640/
[22:08] <vallhalla> ociredeF: i assume you know how to get it to boot from usb?
[22:08] <ociredeF> vallhalla: well... I assumed that too but hasn't been working so far.
[22:08] <ociredeF> I'll try again though
[22:08] <xxu> when i try to create a symbolic link to an irssi script, it works, but when i double click on the symbolic link, ubuntu tells me it's broken. can anyone help please?
[22:08] <paul111> annodomini, may be distro is biting del.
[22:08] <annodomini> paul111: Thanks for the help, now to see if I can debug the problem that caused the computer not to wake up before.
[22:08] <vallhalla> ociredeF: it should boot from that if not there is some other error
[22:08] <Beyecixramd> there was an app to create simple GTK dialogs and boxes, etc from the terminal, how was it called?
[22:09] <yoyoned> xxu why are you makeing a symlink?
[22:09] <paul111> annodomini, :p
[22:09] <xxu> yoyoned: because its necessary to make the script autorun in irssi
[22:09] <ociredeF> vallhalla: nope... loaded ubuntu remix's grub
[22:09] <segfault> xxu: Soft link?
[22:10] <vallhalla> ociredeF: is this on a net book?
[22:10] <xxu> segfault: symbolic link
[22:10] <xuxin> i want to tab to rtorrent in my ssh propmt (it's running in the background). does anyone know how?
[22:10] <ociredeF> vallhalla: yes asus eee pc
[22:10] <duffydack> ociredeF, does your usb stick appear on here? http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/03/usb-flash-drive-compatibility-list.html
[22:10] <vallhalla> ok then you need to change the bios a little
[22:10] <haxparr0w> xuxin try the screen command
[22:10] <vallhalla> ociredeF: you know how to?
[22:11] <kr3w> whats another distro sort of like ubuntu in terms of up-to-date releases
[22:11] <ociredeF> it's a kingston DataTraveler 4GB G2
[22:11] <kr3w> with a relatively quick release cycle
[22:11] <xuxin> haxparr0w: how do i use that?
[22:11] <xxu> kr3w: fedora
[22:11] <ociredeF> vallhalla: what do I need to change?
[22:11] <yoyoned> xxu: where are you mkaing the symlink to
[22:11] <haxparr0w> just type screen
[22:11] <xuxin> -bash: screen: command not found
[22:12] <vallhalla> ociredeF: you need to change your bios so that the usb stick is the first hard drive
[22:12] <ociredeF> I changed something already, don't know how that wasn't enough,
[22:12] <xxu> yoyoned: to the scripts folder in ~/.irssi
[22:12] <kr3w> can i run fedora from a usb stick?
[22:12] <vallhalla> kr3w: yes
[22:12] <kr3w> ubuntu too?
[22:12] <vallhalla> kr3w: yes
[22:13] <haxparr0w> hmmm mine shows up with just 'screen' i guess you could try the man page
[22:13] <yoyoned> xxu: I dont use irissi much, but you shouldn't have to make  symlink to get this to work.
[22:13] <tnek> Has anyone got any good links on adding packages and scripts to initramfs? My googling skills is letting me down. :-(
[22:13] <duffydack> try byobu instead of screen
[22:13] <xxu> yoyoned: i have to autoload it
[22:13] <ociredeF> vallhalla: I chose it to boot from my kingston first but didn't do it
[22:13] <xxu> *yoyoned: i want to autoload it
[22:14] <vallhalla> ociredeF: yes it wont that way but if you make your usb as the primary harddrive it will
[22:14] <xuxin> haxparr0w: yeah, i'll do that
[22:14] <IdleOne> xxu: ~/.irssi should have a plugin folder and all scripts you put in there should be auto loaded
[22:14] <ociredeF> it's not really doing it
[22:15] <haxparr0w> i just tried byobu also seems to work well
[22:15] <xxu> IdleOne: do you by any chance know where that folder is?
[22:15] <ociredeF> vallhalla: for one sec there's a blank screen which says operating system missing or something like that
[22:15] <vallhalla> ociredeF: what bit of the bios are you changing?
[22:15] <joshua__> is there a way to get ubuntu to generate an xorg.conf file for my system?
[22:15] <IdleOne> xxu: in your home folder
[22:15] <ociredeF> vallhalla: boot/Hard Disk Drives 1sr USB....
[22:16] <IdleOne> xxu: /home/username/.irssi I think I don't use irssi but that should be it
[22:16] <yoyoned> since irissi has to run in a terminal you can't start it by clicking on it.  Make a script with something like "xterm -e irissi", make the script executable, then double click on it.
[22:16] <ociredeF> then there's this thing dispayed...Atheros boot something
[22:17] <vallhalla> ociredeF: very odd i am just trying to think where it is going wrong
[22:17] <ohad> hello
[22:17] <IdleOne> xxu: ~/ is shorthand for /home/username (username is your username)
[22:18] <duffydack> ociredeF, either a duff usb stick that doesnt support booting or you need to try making it again.   I ussse gujin to boot it and isos on other partitions to boot from. simples
[22:18] <duffydack> use*
[22:18] <yoyoned> xxu http://www.irssi.org/documentation/faq  look at Q: How do I run scripts automatically at startup?
[22:18] <ociredeF> duffydack: I'll try another thumb I guess
[22:18] <vallhalla> ociredeF: sorry i am a blank
[22:19] <ociredeF> vallhalla: don't even mention it, thanks for the help
[22:19] <ociredeF> technology hates my guts thats all
[22:19] <vallhalla> :)
[22:20] <duffydack> ociredeF, isnt 'Startup Disk Creator' not working for you ?
[22:20] <joltman> I just did an upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 and finally to 10.04 x64.  It was working fine.  Now one user on the laptop is having issues with the mouse.  It started off as the vertical scrolling wasn't working.  Then the whole mouse stopped working.  I'm using the machine right now and I'm under my profile, and the mouse is working fine.  I had gsynaptics installed, but I removed that and the problem is still occurring.  I don't
[22:20] <ociredeF> duffydack: I haven't tried it
[22:20] <jamesw> hi all
[22:20] <ociredeF> I am using this UNetbooting thing
[22:20] <jamesw> i have x64, can i install 32 bit flash in my firefox?
[22:20] <ohad> I have a thinkpad r60 and ubuntu 10.04. I'm trying to use the fan control software by downloading a fan profile from a site like the instructions say, but to no avail. (it says: If you wish you can download the latest approved profiles at http://www.gambitchess.org/tp-fan/profile_download.py as a .tar.gz-archive. ) why can't I load that site?
[22:21] <alex87> jamesw, you cannot unfortunately. and it's a real pain in the ass without 64bit flash
[22:21] <duffydack> ociredeF, try it..  erase the disk,  select iso, go... if not, try the gujin method.
[22:21] <IdleOne> !language | alex87
[22:21] <ociredeF> duffydack: Ok, I'll see how I work this
[22:21] <matthew123> i have set a program to launch using gksudo is there anyway I can include my password in the command so I don't have to enter it
[22:21] <alex87> my bad
[22:22] <jamesw> alex87: i am having all sorts of problems with 64 bit flash in my ubuntu, half the videos don't load, or sometimes they load and sometimes they don't. inconsistent fullscreen. bad performance.
[22:22] <IdleOne> !flash | jamesw
[22:22]  * duffydack has 32gb stick with all the linux`s he can handle, ftw
[22:22] <alex87> jamesw, which version of flash are you using?
[22:22] <ociredeF> duffydack: doesn't seem to open the iso
[22:22] <joltman> has anyone else seen just their mouse stop working on 10.04?  it works fine at the gnome login screen, but once the user logs in, the mouse stops working.  It's working just fine for me right now
[22:22] <annodomini> OK, now that I've got my wireless working again, I'm still having trouble with waking my computer from sleep.
[22:22] <duffydack> ociredeF, explain
[22:23] <jamesw> alex87:  10.1.53
[22:23] <ohad> is there a ubuntu help channel in this network?
[22:23] <annodomini> Ubuntu 10.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1564
[22:23] <jamesw> ohad: this is it
[22:23] <jpds> ohad: You are in it.
[22:23] <duffydack> lol
[22:23] <paul111> annodomini, amount of ram in you dell.?
[22:23] <ohad> oh, ok
[22:23] <terravoice> how can i install new screensaver at Ubuntu 10.04?
[22:23] <annodomini> paul111: 4 GB
[22:23] <ociredeF> Well I had a bunch of problems selecting the iso then the program went crazy and the usb disappeared
[22:24] <wizard_2010> hello all I am trying to install a windows based app using wine
[22:24] <alex87> jamesw, the beta version?
[22:24] <wizard_2010> it wont install any help please
[22:24] <R3cur51v3> terravoice, look in the System > Preferences menu
[22:24] <jamesw> alex87: aren't all 64 bit flashes beta? :(
[22:24] <ohad> so can anyone tell me why I can't download some fan profiles for my thinkpad from this site : http://www.gambitchess.org/tp-fan/profile_download.py as a .tar.gz-archive ?
[22:24] <IdleOne> wizard_2010: #winehq
[22:24] <annodomini> I put my computer to sleep, and when I wake it, the screen never turns on; I need to hold down the power button until it shuts off and turn it back on again.
[22:24] <ociredeF> duffydack: now it won't even load the usb
[22:24] <duffydack> ociredeF, dude..  you got the worst luck...
[22:24] <wizard_2010> annodomini, I have that problem to
[22:24] <blindguardian72> flash on linux is a joke
[22:24] <ociredeF> duffydack: don't kidd me
[22:25] <xxu> what does ftw stand for?
[22:25] <blindguardian72> for the win
[22:25] <wizard_2010> annodomini, if you get it fixed will you let me no I'm runing the matrix screen one are you
[22:25] <duffydack> ociredeF, how good are you on shell
[22:25] <jamesw> ftw stands for google it
[22:25] <ociredeF> it's not methaphorically speaking when I say technology hates my guts
[22:25] <terravoice> thanks -R3cur51v3
[22:25] <annodomini> wizard_2010: I'm not sure what you mean by the matrix screen one
[22:25] <ociredeF> duffydack: not that good but I know the basics
[22:25] <xxu> jamesw: make me
[22:25] <paul111> annodomini, that is quite enough..just disable the screen-saver & get the computer idel.
[22:26] <alex87> jamesw, yeah, but they've removed it again. not sure sorry, i had no problems with the 64bit beta version
[22:26] <wizard_2010> annodomini, I run the matrix code down my screen for the screen saver
[22:26] <IdleOne> !ot | jamesw xxu
[22:26] <joltman> anyone else seeing a trackpad issue in 10.04?  i don't know why it'd just happen for one user
[22:26] <ociredeF> duffydack: but I'll type my gfingers off to get results
[22:26] <jamesw> alex87: what flash ver are you running?
[22:27] <annodomini> paul111: explain? I have no screensaver enabled (in screensaver prefs, blank screen is chosen). Should I turn off "activate scrensaver when computer is idle?
[22:28] <alex87> jamesw, at the moment none, just installed 10.04 64bit and haven't installed it yet
[22:28] <paul111> annodomini, yes... (then will see the real problem)
[22:29] <annodomini> paul111: OK, I've disabled the screensaver. Should I put the computer to sleep and try waking it again?
[22:30] <annodomini> (I'm chatting from a different computer now, so I won't lose the connection)
[22:30] <paul111> annodomini, try it.
[22:30] <thune3> annodomini: btw you should enable power button so you can hit it and gracefully shut down, if it goes bad
[22:31] <annodomini> thune3: can you explain, or link to docs?
[22:32] <thune3> annodomini: system->prefs->power management General-tab "When the power button is pressed" set to shutdown
[22:32] <annodomini> paul111: OK, I choses "suspend", my computer went to suspend with the light blinking. I then pressed the power button to wake it, the light turned solid and the fan spun up, but the screen does not turn on
[22:33] <DarkNemesis> !wget|pdf
[22:33] <DarkNemesis> !wget
[22:34] <paul111> annodomini, check the power management preference.
[22:34] <dstufft> so, Nginx with a 3rd party module compiled in, do i ignore the apt packing, or do i make a ppa >.>
[22:34] <IdleOne> DarkNemesis: wget http://link.example.com/whatever.pdf
[22:35] <IdleOne> DarkNemesis: man wget in terminal will provide more info
[22:36] <paul111> annodomini, closing the laptop lid it will suspend, that is what you did.
[22:37] <annodomini> paul111: I've tried both closing the lid, and using the "suspend" menu item
[22:38] <paul111> annodomini, check the power management preference.
[22:38] <annodomini> paul111: What should I be looking for?
[22:38] <zorba> i love ubuntu
[22:39] <annodomini> paul111: I have "suspend" chosen under "when laptop lid is closed"
[22:39] <paul111> annodomini, make the settings to default.
[22:40] <con-man> I asked this in #pidgin but it's  dead there so I am going to ask here.  Is there a way to make pidgin support signing in from multiple places?
[22:40] <annodomini> paul111: OK, I've done that, though it hasn't seemed to change any settings
[22:42] <annodomini> paul111: I'm assuming I should try suspending and waking again?
[22:42] <kroson> paul111: wicd didnt work unfortunately :(
[22:42] <paul111> annodomini, laptop cannot resume after hibernation.. m i correct.
[22:42] <dstufft> how do i install a package from an installed ppa, the package is named the same as one in regular ubuntu, and the regular ubuntu is a newer version
[22:42] <dstufft> but i want the ppa version
[22:43] <annodomini> paul111: no, this is after just suspend, not hibernation
[22:43] <VCoolio> dstufft: disable the default repo in sources, then apt-get update, then install the package and pin it to prevent updates, then re-enable default repos
[22:44] <wizard_2010> can someone help me please no sound in ubuntu 10 4 it was working today the sound was playing out of speakers and ear phones now it wont play anything
[22:44] <dstufft> bleh, no way to do like aptitude -t testing install <package> except with ppa's?
[22:44] <paul15353> i am new to ubuntu and am just wondering would you recommend to use it as a primary os???
[22:44] <VCoolio> dstufft: also intalling like this should work: apt-get install foobar=2.25.91-0ubuntu1
[22:44] <egidijus1983> Business must be run at a profit... else it will die. But when anyone tries to run a business solely for profit, then also the business must die, for it no longer has a reason for existence
[22:45] <paul111> annodomini, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[22:45] <wizard_2010> anyone help me please
[22:46] <paul15353> what would be the main cause for my ubuntu running slow?
[22:46] <shro0ms> sometimes sound just stops working in firefox and then i have to restart firefox and its a pain. what could be the problem?
[22:46] <paul111> kroson, what wireless network card do you have?
[22:48] <paul111> paul15353, ram could be alternative i guess.
[22:48] <cheater99> hey guys
[22:48] <cheater99> what's the coolest music player for ubuntu?
[22:48] <iceroot> cheater99: the one you like most
[22:48] <paul111> cheater99, amarok according to me.
[22:48] <egidijus1983> Rhythmbox?
[22:48] <shro0ms> rhytmhbox
[22:48] <tonsofpcs> cat [] > /dev/dsp
[22:48] <paul15353> i have 2 gb of ram which i would consider to be a lot..I have only 10 gb of my harddrive going to ubuntu and the rest is going towards windows 7..could this cause it to run slow?
[22:49] <adam634> i wouldnt think so
[22:49] <techhelper1> not really because i have a vps that is 16gb 360mb ram
[22:49] <techhelper1> and it runs fine
[22:49] <techhelper1> but it has a quad core
[22:49] <VCoolio> shro0ms: happens after watching flash? make sure to close it, even with the tab still open in youtube can hijack sound
[22:50] <cheater99> thanks for the tips
[22:50] <paul15353> is there any must have software for ubuntu?
[22:51] <VCoolio> paul15353: depends what you want to do; just google around and find some informative blogs
[22:51] <paul15353> thanks
[22:51] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: you might want private codecs, such as mp3, and also, the flash player
[22:51] <shro0ms> VCoolio, close what?
[22:51] <zus> does anyone use "giver"? i'm the only linux machine on a windows network can i still use giver?
[22:51] <annodomini> paul15353: try running "top" from the terminal to see what's using the most of your cpu and ram
[22:51] <paul111> paul15353, so how much space is ubuntu occupying in 10 GB HDD. & how much is free?
[22:52] <VCoolio> shro0ms: close the flash process, so if you pause a youtube video in one tab and then open another in a second, the 2nd won't have sound
[22:52] <iceroot> paul111: besides vim and zsh, there is nothing really missing on a ubuntu-installation
[22:52] <paul15353> ubuntu is using 10gb from a 70 gb harddrive and the rest is dedicated to windows 7..20gb is free
[22:53] <iceroot> paul15353: sorry was wrting to paul111
[22:53] <paul15353> so was i lol
[22:53] <paul111> iceroot, or could he be running out of space..so got to ask?
[22:54] <BiggFREE> Hi
[22:56] <paul15353> does ubuntu have any distinct advantages over windows?
[22:56] <shoopdawoop> paul15353: it's free
[22:57] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: it's virus-free, too. It's modificable, it's more stable, and runs on less capable machines
[22:57] <Pen> hello, question. Where can I find other programs such as Ubuntu restricted Areas ..... Kubuntu restricted areas. ....program packages like that
[22:57] <Pen> ?
[22:57] <[276-951-438]> paul15353: which tasks do you want to solve with ubuntu?
[22:57] <arand> Is it possible to set the resolution of the gdm screen, currently it does not match the one I've set for the desktop, and that causes issues..
[22:57] <paul15353> what do you mean "which tasks"?
[22:58] <Beyecixramd> arand: what drivers are you using?
[22:58] <Beyecixramd> arand: or better, what videocard you have?
[22:58] <arand> Beyecixramd: I'm on the nvidia blob, with a 86oogt
[22:58] <Beyecixramd> arand: nVidia official drivers? or nouveau?
[22:59] <[276-951-438]> i mean goals of using ubuntu, like playing games, video editing and so
[22:59] <arand> Beyecixramd: That'd be official.
[22:59] <mario_> hellooooooooooooo
[22:59] <paul15353> am i really want to use it for music software..but is it good at music editing?
[22:59] <Beyecixramd> arand: have you configured it with the nVidia tool?
[23:00] <arand> Beyecixramd: Or, hang on, no. Blah, this is on a kvm vm, so some weird virtual drivers I'd assume
[23:00] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: uh... you have Audacity, Mixxx and some other programs
 i suggest you try renoise, it's one of best you can get on linux (if you get used to the interface)
[23:00] <wizard_2010> help I cant close / minimize windows in ubuntu
[23:00] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: if you're an artist, or want to be, i recommend you Ubuntu studio
[23:01] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: why? is the title bar with those buttons gone or they don't work?
[23:01] <[276-951-438]> paul15353: i trying to use musical software in ubuntu studio, and i found it well and useful, but i'm not a musician :)
[23:01] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, they just disappeared
[23:01] <paul15353> my favourite on windows was fruity loops..does it work with ubuntu?i am interested in making songs from scratch.what is the best software for this?thanks for all the tips everyone :)
[23:01] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, I cant see them at all don't no what happen
[23:02] <Pen> hello, question. Where can I find other programs such as Ubuntu restricted Areas ..... Kubuntu restricted areas. ....program packages like that?
[23:02] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: did you mess with 'visual effects' in the appearance screen? try if "metacity --replace" solves anything
no, only under wine (which is quite laggy, i tried it myself)
[23:02] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: fruity loops is Windows software. Windows software ONLY runs on Windows, as Mac software only runs on Mac...
[23:02] <[276-951-438]> paul15353: there is lmms - it is free analog if fruity loops in ubuntu
[23:02] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: there is a native FL-like app for Linux
[23:02] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: use google, don't remember the name, sorry
 but there wont work any Windows VSTi instruments and effects
[23:03] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, you the man that fixed it what is that metacity lol
[23:03] <Beyecixramd> Programix: sure it will :)
[23:03]  * punkmexic is looking for an expert in brightness someone suggested to me to use this method setpci -s 00:02.0 f4.b=ff but says is difficult to find the byte i need to modify
[23:03] <paul15353> is there any way i vsts would work in ubuntu?  what is the best website for finding music programs for ubuntu or am i best off just to search using google?
 no it wonts :P
[23:04] <[276-951-438]> paul15353: and you can try Rosegarden with some sounfonts (but i couldn't found professional SF for free :))
[23:04] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: metacity is a window manager (default in gnome) and also window decorator; if you enable visual effects you switch to compiz as window manager, but window decoration may fail; install fusion-icon and run that if it happens again, it's a systray icon where you can switch window decoration and manager easily
[23:04] <Beyecixramd> Programix: the program im talking about, yes
[23:04] <Beyecixramd> Programix: it has that capacity :)
 well, it's emulating it anyway, it doesnt REALLY work, i tried it
[23:04] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, also my earphone jack wont work plays ok with speaker but not head phones that also worked and just stopped also thanks for the infor above
[23:05] <Beyecixramd> Programix: are you talking about Wine?
[23:05] <Beyecixramd> Programix: or the native program
 the native program
[23:05] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: about audio hardware I know close to nothing; throw it into the channel here; mention what sound you use (pulse? alsa? oss?)
[23:06] <wizard_2010> my head phone jack wont work anyone help alsa
[23:06] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, thanks man
[23:06] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: no problem, go on trying visual effects and compiz, it's awesome
[23:07] <paul15353> so overall what would everyone recommend windows or ubuntu?
[23:07] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, I have i have everything setup love it lol
 for music, im sorry but i must say windows
[23:07] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: i can't believe this... you're in a Ubuntu channel... Ubuntu of course
 actually, it more depends what music you want to make
[23:07] <paul111> paul15353, please stop the comparing.
[23:07] <Beyecixramd> but that's personal preference, don't worry
[23:08] <paul15353> i just find it hard to get a straight answer on which is better lol
[23:08] <Reemo> Hey guys, just noticed that my ubuntu 10.04 desktop transfers painfully slow via smb
[23:08] <jkalex05> im officially 100% ubuntu
[23:08] <Reemo> Never had that problem before, already restarted server and tested against another client
[23:08] <jkalex05> i just deleted windows 7 and installed ubuntu solo on my system
[23:08] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[23:08] <ZykoticK9> the Shotwell photo manager sorts by date, and i have 13 photos with dates in 2062 & 2064 - anyone know how to edit the photo metadata for dates?
[23:08] <Beyecixramd> jkalex05: good work :)
 well, if you just need to record guitar and vocals, linux will be ok but if you need the VSTis, you gotta use Windows :)
[23:09] <wizard_2010> VCoolio,  did i just follow that to a tee and get that background ?
[23:09] <Beyecixramd> jkalex05: i jumped into Linux-only a few years ago. hell, even my mom uses Linux, and she loves it
[23:09] <Beyecixramd> jkalex05: you know, a 100€ box is wonderful with Linux
[23:09] <jkalex05> i mean i dont really game anymore
[23:09] <solkig> jkalex05: yeah, good for you! hope everything will work fine for you
[23:09] <jkalex05> so why use windows
[23:09] <Beyecixramd> jkalex05: neither i do
[23:09] <Beyecixramd> exactly
[23:10] <jkalex05> its slower
[23:10] <Beyecixramd> and when i want to game, i fire up Wine
[23:10] <jkalex05> lol
[23:10] <Beyecixramd> or hell... i go to my console xD
[23:11] <paul15353> ya if you want to play games go play playstation or something lol
[23:11] <blindgua1dian72> steam is coming to linux soon though
[23:11] <[276-951-438]> but, unlike windows, ubuntu till have some troubles with multimedia players...
[23:11] <Beyecixramd> blindgua1dian72: but drivers aren't :(
[23:11] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: seems ok, but a command is easier, or try gdm2setup on launchpad.net
[23:11] <Beyecixramd> blindgua1dian72: sadly, graphic drivers are lower quality than Windows. Only nVidia is capable here, of gaming on Linux
[23:11] <blindgua1dian72> yeah, but it's a step
[23:11] <Beyecixramd> blindgua1dian72: ATM at least
[23:12] <Beyecixramd> blindgua1dian72: there's also ATi, with low performance and Intel, with a bad implementation
[23:12] <blindgua1dian72> gallium3d is making a lot of progress, still far away from any proprietary drivers though
[23:12] <Beyecixramd> yep, it doesn't work on my pc, sadly :(
[23:12] <blindgua1dian72> blown
[23:12] <Beyecixramd> im anxious to get full 3D nouveau ASAP
[23:12] <blindgua1dian72> I have a nvidia card, so I'm safe at the moment
[23:13] <blindgua1dian72> but for my next comp, I really want to go ATI
[23:13] <Beyecixramd> i don't want nVidia drivers: you know, KMS, and all that stuff
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> blindgua1dian72, trade what works for what doesn't - interesting
[23:13] <Beyecixramd> i prefer to stay with nouveau, they seem cleaner and faster
[23:14] <Aemaeth> when i use the monitor preferences it puts the screen label in the upper left hand side, and it never goes away, how do i force it off?
[23:14] <kroson> hi guys
[23:15] <kroson> do you know any solution for wireless connection drops in lucid? my card is intel 3945 and everytime i start a heavy download wireless goes down and i disconnect
[23:15] <blindgua1dian72> I've never tried the nouveau driver
[23:16] <soreau> Aemaeth: Does it go away if you switch resolutions and back again?
[23:16] <Beyecixramd> if vga=xxx is deprecated, what should i use for a 1024x768 fb plymouth splash?
[23:17] <p3rror> hello
[23:17] <soreau> Beyecixramd: For radeon, you'd use video=1024x768
[23:17] <p3rror> i've installed ubuntu and  no sounds
[23:17] <p3rror> please can you help
[23:17] <soreau> ! audio | p3rror
[23:17] <Aemaeth> soreau, no effect.  A restart would do, but that's not really convenient for every time i need to dual monitor to display something.
[23:17] <Aemaeth> and thanks
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> Beyecixramd, if you're on 10.04 with nvidia proprietary be careful with setting resolutions - it can break virtual console (ctrl-alt+f1tof6) if done incorrectly.  just fyi.
[23:18] <kubuntiano> hello, who helps me to install on my football menagerie kubuntu 64bit? Thanks
[23:18] <soreau> Aemaeth: You mean you have to setup dual head config every time after you log in?
[23:18] <kroson> do you know any solution for wireless connection drops in lucid? my card is intel 3945 and everytime i start a heavy download wireless goes down and i disconnect
[23:18] <kroson> plz anyone
[23:18] <kroson> this is annoying
[23:18] <Aemaeth> soreau, no, but i have to switch normally after I log in
[23:19] <soreau> Aemaeth: Not getting what you mean
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> Aemaeth, if you want to save nvidia settings you need to run the config with elevated privileges "gksu nvidia-settings" then save to the xorg file button ;)
[23:20] <paul15353> hey how do you create the multiple desktop thing where you have four screens opened at once and you can flick through them?i just saw it on a vid on youtube lol
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> paul111, install ccsm then enable cube and rotate-cube
[23:20] <soreau> paul15353: It might help if you shared the video link here and the time in the video where it shows the effect
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> paul111, sorry was for paul15353
[23:20] <Aemaeth> soreau, i'll be working on something, and someone will want it on the screen, so i plug it in to dual monitor, and then that icon is in the screen blocking the way.  I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of the icon (maybe forcing a quit for the monitor program?), but if i have to restart every time, i guess that's fine, just not the best functionality
[23:20] <n4h0j> I am trying to help a friend over SSH to figure out why her computer crashes randomly. She says that the screen prints some error message that she is not able to read before the screen goes away and she get stripes from top to bottom. What log file should I look in first? I can't really find any useful information in the files I have looked at. Any help would be great!
[23:21] <thune3> Aemaeth: so if you close Display Preferences (not minimize it) it stays there?
[23:21] <iceroot> n4h0j: /var/log/syslog
[23:21] <soreau> Aemaeth: That is an obvious bug, it should not be doing this. But you could use xrandr from cli to change your resolution and even use it in a script
[23:21] <Reallycool> VPN messages and prompts don't show up, is there any way to fix this?
[23:22] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, I have another problem the windows wont open to full screen like internet page will sit about my dock even no its hide any idea
[23:22] <n4h0j> iceroot: so, if there is anything wrong in her system, it should be noted in that file at the time of the crash?
[23:22] <Aemaeth> thune3, correct, i currently have it closed and single screen, but it still says "Laptop" in the yellow box that blocks my top bar for maximized windows and my applications bar
[23:22] <iceroot> n4h0j: normally, yes
[23:22] <soreau> Aemaeth: This is assuming of course, that you do not use nvidia driver that doesn't support xrandr 1.2
[23:22] <n4h0j> iceroot, ok. I will check this out. thank you.
[23:23] <Aemaeth> thanks soreau, i'll look into that
[23:23] <paul111> ZykoticK9, resume session..
[23:23] <wizard_2010> can someone help me with my screen problem
[23:24] <freonchill> hello, is there a vnc viewer that allows to select low-color / low bandwidth for linux / ubuntu?
[23:24] <Aemaeth> freonchill, have you tried rdesktop?
[23:24] <freonchill> Aemaeth, no, i will try that; thanks
[23:24] <red2kic_> freonchill: ssh have those features: low-color + low bandwidth for linux / ubuntu
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> Aemaeth, does rdesktop support vnc?
[23:26] <mman> hey, anyone can help me configuratng bluetooth on my pc?
[23:26] <Aemaeth> ZykoticK9, not sure...
[23:26] <soreau> mman: What's there to configure? Did you look in sys>prefs>bluetooth?
[23:27] <Aemaeth> it's worked for some other protocols
[23:27] <mman> soreau, i do that and then put, turn on but it doesnt turn on, maybe is not installed
[23:28] <wizard_2010> everytime I restart my system I need to run metadata -- to get my windows back so i can close them what pluggin in compiz could be doing this ?
[23:28] <soreau> mman: Do you have a boothtooth adapter installed on your computer?
[23:28] <wizard_2010> metacity
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> mman, what ubuntu version are you using?  with lucid i have had the most success with BT, are you seeing the BT icon in system tray?
[23:28] <fwaokda> how do i zip up a folder?
[23:28] <mman> soreau, yes, but dont know if its configurated properly or something in ubuntu
[23:29] <mman> ZykoticK9, 10.4
[23:29] <soreau> wizard_2010: It's not a plugin causing this, it's a ubuntu problem that doesn't start any window manager. Is this an upgrade from 9.10?
[23:29] <mman> ZykoticK9, yes i do see the icon on the sys tray
[23:29] <Aemaeth> fwaokda, right click on folder, Compress...
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> mman, what device are you trying to connect too?
[23:29] <wizard_2010> soreau, no clean install on new laptop
[23:29] <iceroot> fwaokda: zip folder-to-compress compress-folder
[23:29] <mman> ZykoticK9, my cellphone
[23:29] <fwaokda> ty
[23:30] <soreau> wizard_2010: Try setting visual effects to None in gnome-appearance-properties
[23:30] <wizard_2010> soreau, how do i do that lol im noob
[23:30] <mataernj> www.blogeek.com.ve
[23:30] <soreau> wizard_2010: gnome-appearance-properties is the applet found in sys>prefs>appearance
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> mman, ahhh that's totally different.  sorry man i can't help, i had 0 success with my crappy old cell with BT.  there is a cell phone connection program in the repo that looks promising, sorry i've forgotten the name but search for phone in Synaptic or USC.  Good luck man!
[23:31] <Sir_Confused> is it still possible to upgrade from 8.10 without a fresh install?
[23:31] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: to what?
[23:31] <Sir_Confused> anything above 8.10
[23:31] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: sure
[23:31] <Sir_Confused> preferably 10.04
[23:31] <thune3> Aemaeth: is gnome-display-properties still running? maybe "killall gnome-display-properties"?
[23:31] <iceroot> !upgrade | Sir_Confused
[23:31] <mman> ZykoticK9, but also the problem seems that it doesnt get on
[23:31] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: but you have to go 8.10 - 9.04 - 9.10 - 10.04
[23:31] <mataernj> ./clean
[23:32] <Sir_Confused> yeah i'm on that page at the moment and the instructions aren't working
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> mman, i could certainly see my phone over the BT, i just couldn't connect or do anything too it.
[23:32] <IdleOne> Sir_Confused: I suggest doing a fresh install of 10.04
[23:32] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: arent working is a bad description for giviing support
[23:32] <Aemaeth> yes thune3, it was still running in background, thank you, didn't know the program name to look for....obvious in hind sight, but thanks!
[23:32] <mman> ZykoticK9, no, i cant even turn the bt on!!
[23:33] <Aemaeth> the curse of the yellow box is over!
[23:33] <wizard_2010> soreau, you the man change it from none to extra cause I'm using compiz
[23:33] <Sir_Confused> Well there's no useful button on the update manager gui and i'm getting some odd responses when I try to do it manually
[23:33] <freonchill> Aemaeth, documentation is a bit lacking for it, whats the syntax for connecting to a vnc server? vnc:IP ?
[23:33] <jharrison186> Hi. First-timer here. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Mac. The .iso file is 733MB and too big to burn on a CD. I don't have a flash drive. Any workarounds?
[23:33] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: again, without usefull errors we cant (and we will not) help
[23:33] <wizard_2010> soreau, that fixed it all the way back to what it was only one other problem my headphone  jack wont play music
[23:34] <wizard_2010> soreau, it will play out of the speakers but not the headphones
[23:34] <freonchill> jharrison186, does your iso burner software tell you that its too big for a 700mb cdr disc ?
[23:34] <jharrison186> yes
[23:34] <soreau> wizard_2010: Another thing you can do is (while compiz is running) close all open windows then go to sys>prefs>startup applications>options tab and click Remember Currently Running Applications
[23:34] <freonchill> jharrison186, does the file pass a checksum?
[23:34] <jharrison186> I didn't make it that far. :) I'm using Disk Utility in Max OSX
[23:35] <ZykoticK9> mman, i've been trying to find what i could search for in lspci to identify BT and i cant figure it out :(  still trying.
[23:35] <Aemaeth> freonchill, it might not work with vnc protocol, so sorry if i lead you down a bad road, but "rdesktop -u [username] -p [password]  [server ip]:[port]" is worth a try
[23:35] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz#Running%20Compiz
[23:35] <freonchill> Aemaeth, k, thanks
[23:35] <Sir_Confused> current dist not found in meta-release file
[23:35] <Sir_Confused> No new release found
[23:35] <Danawar1> Heyyaa ubuntu when i try to access my harddrive in terminal i am unable to see it in /mnt where can i find it?
[23:35] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, thanks, can you help with my headphone problem
[23:36] <VCoolio> wizard_2010: sorry, no
[23:36] <Sir_Confused> that's what happens after i try do-release-upgrade
[23:36] <soreau> VCoolio: That link doesn't tell about the 'no wm start on login' bug
[23:36] <paul15353> when im using mozilla firefox..not everything fits on the page and when i zoom out its too small..is there anyway i can have it the same way i had it in windows where everything fitted and was easy to read??
[23:36] <wizard_2010> VCoolio, no problem will post on board thanks
[23:36] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: connected to the internet? what is the output of  lsb_release -a?
[23:36] <wizard_2010> can someone help me with headphone sound problem
[23:36] <Beyecixramd> paul15353: i guess your resolution is too low...
[23:36] <wizard_2010> sound will play over speakers
[23:36] <Sir_Confused> Description:	Ubuntu 8.10
[23:36] <Sir_Confused> Release:	8.10
[23:36] <Sir_Confused> Codename:	intrepid
[23:37] <paul15353> and how would i change it?
[23:37] <VCoolio> soreau: it's not a wm, it's window decoration and he needs the gtk-window-decorator --replace thing, doesn't he, also on next login it needs to be there, hence the startup hints
[23:37] <wizard_2010> headphone jack does work
[23:37] <Sir_Confused> and yes it has internet, it's this machine
[23:37] <Danawar1> BUMP Danawar1:
[23:37] <Aemaeth> wizard_2010, what kind of headphones?
[23:37] <soreau> VCoolio: I highly doubt compiz will start and gtk-w-d does not
[23:37] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: you are calling "do-release-upgrade"?
[23:37] <Sir_Confused> yes
[23:37] <Sir_Confused> with sudo
[23:37] <soreau> VCoolio: There is a bug where lucid just doesn't start any wm at all
[23:37] <wizard_2010> Aemaeth, sony they worked today now they dont and the work on my iphone
[23:38] <Aemaeth> i was really wondering if it was usb or not, i have a usb headset and to kill the computers speakers it's just in the sound prefs
[23:38] <mman> ZykoticK9, i think i have to turn the card in windows first
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> mman, sorry i'm totally not finding much info on BT not working :|   using "dmesg | grep -i blue" does list a bunch of Bluetooth related items, but very generic looking.
[23:38] <VCoolio> soreau: he was missing the title bar; but I didn't know about missing wm in lucid, maybe that's it
[23:38] <mman> ZykoticK9, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[23:38] <jkalex05> will the Xchat irc file that is for fedora gnu/linux work for ubuntu?
[23:39] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: i dont know if "do-release-upgrade" is reading out the synaptic optins, there you can set "never upgrade, only upgrade from lts tolts, always upgrade"
[23:39] <slow-motion> n8
[23:39] <soreau> VCoolio: Missing title bar is almost always an indication that no wm is running since gtk-w-d is not 'crashy' and ubuntu hard codes essential plugins like window decoration, on
[23:39] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: open synaptic and check in the settings the options for distribution upgrades
[23:39] <alexh10> hello to all!
[23:39] <ZykoticK9> mman, oh man i did NOT have to do ANY of that to get BT working on my Lucid installs!  it just worked perfectly for me, sorry i'm no real help.  best of luck man, hope you find a fix.
[23:40] <mman> ZykoticK9, thanks man ;)
[23:40] <Chuck27> Whats KDE?
[23:40] <mataks> how to start again console-keymaps?  i installed it using apt-get and when it finish it ask for setups and now i try to remove and install to do the setup again it won't run the setup.. help pls.
[23:40] <iceroot> !kde | Chuck27
[23:40] <wizard_2010> anyone help with sound issue with headphone jack
[23:40] <jkalex05> so anyone know?
[23:40] <jkalex05> will the Xchat irc file that is for fedora gnu/linux work for ubuntu?
[23:40] <soreau> wizard_2010: The more you elaborate on your issue, the easier it is for folks to help you
[23:41] <iceroot> jkalex05: install xchat from the repos
[23:41] <Chuck27> is it worth getting?
[23:41] <jkalex05> repos?
[23:41] <jkalex05> sorry your talking to a linux noobie here
[23:41] <soreau> wizard_2010: Tell them what audio card you have, explain what you've tried so far and what isn't working
[23:41] <soreau> ! audio | wizard_2010
[23:41] <iceroot> !apt-get | jkalex05
[23:41] <Aemaeth> wizard_2010, so you checked out the hardware tab on your sound prefs?
[23:41] <iceroot> jkalex05: type "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[23:42] <wizard_2010> thanks everyone I am a complete noob to this thanks for the help will check that out
[23:43] <jkalex05> iceroot thanks man
[23:43] <iceroot> !repo | jkalex05 (also important to read)
[23:44] <jkalex05> !synaptic
[23:44] <iceroot> jkalex05: yes maybe its better to start with synaptic to learn about the repos in ubuntu and the power of it
[23:45] <jkalex05> iceroot after i used that command is that automatically installed
[23:45] <Sir_Confused> system upgrade is set to 'always ask'
[23:45] <jkalex05> or do i still have to do something
[23:45] <iceroot> jkalex05: yes
[23:45] <Aemaeth> i like apt get better
[23:45] <Chuck27> so is there any reason i should get KDE
[23:45] <iceroot> jkalex05: its all done and you will find it at "applications -internet- xchat"
[23:45] <jharrison186> >	Hi. First-timer here. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Mac. The .iso file is 733MB and too big to burn on a CD. I don't have a flash drive. Any workarounds?
[23:45] <jkalex05> wow
[23:45] <jkalex05> that was so easy thanks iceroot
[23:45] <iceroot> Chuck27: because you like kde, that is the reason
[23:45] <Aemaeth> synaptic seems to hang when too many packages are installed
[23:46] <Chuck27> ok ty
[23:46] <iceroot> jkalex05: trust me, apt-get is the killer-feature of debian/ubuntu.
[23:46] <jkalex05> well i need to get used to using command lines
[23:46] <jkalex05> and then im gonna learn python
[23:46] <iceroot> jkalex05: that is a good idea
[23:46] <aguitel> use aptitude
[23:46] <iceroot> aguitel: use nicknames :)
[23:47] <jkalex05> bash commands would be a good place to start right?
[23:47] <iceroot> jkalex05: yes,learning the basics about bash is not a bad idea
[23:47] <Sir_Confused> a load of repositories are coming up with 404's when i try and reload my list
[23:48] <iceroot> !8.10
[23:48] <jkalex05> iceroot what is wine for linux?
[23:48] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: because 8.10 is out of support and repos are disabled/moved
[23:48] <iceroot> !wine | jkalex05
[23:48] <Sir_Confused> so what can i do to upgrade then?
[23:48] <paul15353> is there any way i can make my mozilla firefox in ubuntu the same as my one in windows in relation to the way everything is displayed and laid out?
[23:49] <iceroot> paul15353: sure, why not?
[23:49] <ne7work> for what is xubuntu?
[23:49] <Aemaeth> paul15353, i'm not really aware of many differences
[23:49] <jharrison186> A little help please: I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Mac. The .iso file is 733MB and too big to burn on a CD. I don't have a flash drive. Any workarounds?
[23:49] <Aemaeth> !xubuntu ne7work
[23:49] <iceroot> Sir_Confused: i guess replacing the repo-urls with the new repos for 8.10. they were moved to a different location, dont remeber the path
[23:50] <IdleOne> !xubuntu | ne7work
[23:50] <aguitel> jharrison186, use dvd
[23:50] <paul15353> i can't seem to get everything to fit on the page and when i zoom out the text is too small
[23:50] <iceroot> jharrison186: cant imaging the iso is 733mb
[23:50] <Aemaeth> thanks IdleOne
[23:50] <hilem> how do i see what packages are currently installed on 10.04?
[23:50] <IdleOne> Aemaeth: sure thing
[23:50] <iceroot> jharrison186: not the cd iso
[23:50] <duffydack> how can the ubuntu 'CD' be over 700meg?
[23:50] <maco> !intrepid | iceroot, Sir_Confused
[23:50] <duffydack> its not...
[23:50] <iceroot> hilem: dpkg -l
[23:50] <hilem> command-line that is
[23:50] <maco> !eol | iceroot, Sir_Confused
[23:50] <ne7work> IdleOne, and what is the difference?
[23:50] <charlespito> paul15353 you can share the same folder for both
[23:50] <iceroot> maco: no need that, thanks
[23:50] <suprengr> Any system font experts tuned in at the moment ?
[23:50] <jharrison186> Thanks. I'll have to dig up a DVD I guess.
[23:50] <ne7work> !edubuntu
[23:50] <maco> iceroot: for the repo urls you were looking for...theyd be on that help.ubuntu.com page
[23:51] <purpzey> Can anyone help me out with Simple Backup Config, I can't seem to get it to back up, it keeps telling me there is a process initiated, but it no new dir is created on my harddrive or anything like that
[23:51] <iceroot> maco: ah ok
[23:51] <Sir_Confused> i'm on the EoL upgrades page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Intrepid and the instructions aren't working
[23:51] <IdleOne> ne7work: www.xubuntu.com
[23:51] <Beyecixramd> suprengr: why don't you ask directly :)
[23:51] <duffydack> jharrison186, the ubuntu cd iso is not over 700meg
[23:51] <hilem> iceroot: thanks!
[23:51] <ne7work> IdleOne, and?
[23:51] <IdleOne> ne7work: go to the site and read :)
[23:51] <duffydack> its 697
[23:51] <jharrison186> duffydack: I know. It's the file I downloaded. I can't burn it to a cd
[23:51] <iceroot> hilem: maybe dpkg -l | grep ii > my-packages.txt   is a better idea
[23:51] <ne7work> IdleOne, how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[23:52] <duffydack> jharrison186, I have all the ubuntu 10.04 isos on my hd.. they are not over 700mb
[23:52] <IdleOne> ne7work: i don't compile software.
[23:52] <hilem> iceroot:  i can grep the output for what i'm looking for... i just didn't know the command offhand
[23:52] <iceroot> jharrison186: the cd iso is less then 700mb
[23:52] <iceroot> hilem: ah ok
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> jharrison186, you do have 700 and not 650 MB cds right.
[23:52] <jharrison186> duffydack: I just downloaded them today, where did you get the files from?
[23:52] <jharrison186> ZykoticK9: right
[23:53] <Aemaeth> ne7work, i used xubuntu on a system that couldn't handle the regular ubuntu do to ram limitations, was basically the same as far as i could tell, just must be lighter
[23:53] <duffydack> jharrison186, ubuntu.com and choose a mirror
[23:53] <iceroot> !download | jharrison186
[23:53] <duffydack> what ^iceroot said
[23:53] <Sir_Confused> iceroot: all the instructions relate to repos that are 404'ing now
[23:54] <jharrison186> ubottu: thanks, working on it
[23:54] <zagabar> Any news on the problem where wireless network cards seems to be deactivated in 10.04?
[23:58] <flomaster> thune3:  u here?
[23:58] <flomaster> it seems I have lost SUDO and have booted from the live cd how can I copy what I need to copy from the live cd to repair my sudo ?
[23:59] <p3rror> can you help
[23:59] <p3rror> i have no sound
[23:59] <suprengr> Beyecixramd: ok, will do... you'll love tis one [but dont laugh too loud please].  I run a couple of 'kde' apps [gwenview & scribus etc]  Out of curiosity I tied [via synaptic] the kde base library simply to see what these apps looked like in their 'own' environment. Didntlikeit after only 1 session so removed it.  Now a real annoyance has been left... firefox and open-office are now using a kde font  as default for me
[23:59] <suprengr> nus etc. [looks awful and too 'thin' a font for 'good' use.  Any ideas on what / where / howto reset.  Ihave tried "sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5-data" to no affect.  Thanks in advance for any help.
[23:59] <p3rror> please check for more information http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=799a7b92eda8d7c15ae574eee2be2f258a5f0cf4