[04:06] <zus> hello
[06:23] <holstein> hey zus
[06:23] <holstein> whats the good news?
[11:40] <rvchila> morning!
[14:12] <zus> holstein, hello
[14:13] <rvchila> finally you´ve entered
[14:14] <zus> do you mean about last night?
[14:14] <rvchila> nop, i mean this time
[14:14] <rvchila> since 12:40
[14:14] <rvchila> whatever, i´m hangover
[14:14] <zus> oi, me too
[14:15] <zus> my sister had her baby!
[14:15] <rvchila> fucking garrafón
[14:15] <rvchila> garrafon = the worst alcohol, something like imitation
[14:17] <zus> i went to a friends house his kid graduated high school, it was fathers day, new uncle kinda thing all into one
[14:17] <zus> arrogant bastard! now thats a brew!
[14:18] <zus> how big is ubuntu studio after everything is installed,...
[14:22] <rvchila> i suppose 2 or 3 gb
[14:24] <zus> rvchila, http://www.arrogantbastard.com/animated/index.html
[14:25] <zus> i would have prefered the dvd but i had to install ubuntustudio from synaptic on a clean ubuntu 10.04
[14:25] <rvchila> for me, i install ubuntustudio with the minimal imagen
[14:27] <zus> which is fine because it looks identical to the dvd i tried but i have all the other ubuntu candy like that "me menu"....i dont feel i miss anything now....ecept i prefer the  kde over gnome
[14:27] <rvchila> but its not problem
[14:27] <rvchila> you must install ubuntustudio metapackage and linux-rt
[14:28] <rvchila> change the grub stuff
[14:28] <zus> no ecept hunting tutorial and how to's for  3 gigs of  items is a bit not fun...
[14:29] <rvchila> my instalation is about 5 gb
[14:29] <zus> what is the linux-rt?
[14:29] <rvchila> i don´t know only ubuntustudio audio stuff
[14:29] <rvchila> the kernel real time
[14:30] <zus> whats that do then?
[14:30] <rvchila> i don´t know in english, this kernel is perfect to have low latency
[14:31] <rvchila> latency = time to write the input to the computer
[14:31] <rvchila> ( sorry i´m spanish, and i don´t know english enough )
[14:32] <zus> in synaptic i have marked linux-rt headers 2.6.31-10 and the2.6.31-10rt and linux-headers-rt
[14:32] <rvchila> linux-rt is a metapackage
[14:33] <zus> oh, thats not marked...
[14:34] <rvchila> in your terminal i would do that : sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins linux-rt^C
[14:34] <rvchila> without ^C
[14:35] <zus> that would not change the base ubuntu will it?
[14:35] <rvchila> nop
[14:35] <rvchila> in your grub list
[14:35] <rvchila> you will choose the kernel rt
[14:35] <rvchila> or the normal
[14:36] <zus> i dont see a list when i boot up just a blank screen and underscore blinking...then the ubuntustudio splashscreen
[14:36] <rvchila> ah ok
[14:36] <rvchila> you will have to change the grub conf
[14:36] <rvchila> on internet you will have a lot of information
[14:37] <rvchila> but what will you use ubuntustudio ?
[14:37] <rvchila> music creation
[14:37] <rvchila> video?
[14:37] <rvchila> or only have fun ?
[14:37] <zus> for music
[14:38] <rvchila> so i recomend you kernel rt
[14:38] <zus> but my brother and i will be making videos as well,....
[14:38] <rvchila> it´s not problem
[14:38] <rvchila> i think that
[14:38] <rvchila> the kernel rt is to work in real time
[14:39] <rvchila> whatever music , video graphic
[14:41] <zus> i got a untrusted packages could compromise systems security. warning
[14:41] <rvchila> i don´t know
[14:42] <zus> linux-rt linux-image-2.6.31-10-rt linux-image-rt do you wnat to ignore this warning and proceed anyway
[14:42] <rvchila> yes
[14:43] <zus> well its nothing that i can re-install ive it ruins anything i guess
[14:43] <rvchila> it would be fixed at the future
[14:45] <zus> so my connections signal dropped to 48% and the install went from 23 minutes to 12hours....:(
[14:45] <rvchila> where are you from ?
[14:46] <zus> originally i am from puerto rico, but im an army brat, i've been to many places
[14:47] <zus> i didnt  enable the jack to be in real time though
[14:47] <rvchila> you know spanish ?
[14:47] <zus> i can write it phonetically.
[14:47] <rvchila> i mean to read
[14:47] <rvchila> ?
[14:48] <zus> a good bit yes i can read spanish
[14:48] <zus> but some of the words i  have trouble with
[14:49] <rvchila> http://semicorchux.blogspot.com/2010/01/indice-general.html
[14:49] <rvchila> in this web you have information about every step
[14:49] <rvchila> maybe you can use the translator of google
[14:49] <zus> i wouldnt work for an insurance company, im  probably considered illiterate  when i comes to reading and writting in spanish
[14:50] <rvchila> i learnt english in poland
[14:50] <rvchila> :)
[14:52] <zus> i realized the internet is HUGE and when most people ask do you know spanish i some how end up getting Portuguese, brazilan dialect and spain,...or some for of spanish im not too familiar with...
[14:52] <zus> so i have began watching movies with the subtitles in other languages
[14:52] <rvchila> great
[14:53] <zus> ok the install is done, any need to reboot ?
[14:53] <rvchila> yes
[14:53] <rvchila> after that in the console
[14:53] <rvchila> put uname -a
[14:53] <rvchila> and tell me
[14:56] <zus> Linux  2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:57] <rvchila> ok
[14:57] <rvchila> you don´t have the kernel rt
[14:57] <rvchila> you will have to change de grub conf
[14:57] <rvchila> seek on internet
[14:57] <zus> ok.
[14:58] <rvchila> and the first elecction would have to be rt
[14:59] <zus> brb,...
[15:07] <zus> ok after a reboot,..
[15:07] <zus> Linux  2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:07] <zus> still the same
[15:13] <zus> so i found online https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation , how do i make sure i have these packages installed already and if i missed one or not?
[15:26] <astraljava> !vanilla | zus
[15:26] <astraljava> zus: That's the up-to-date instructions page.
[15:28] <zus> thanks
[16:31] <zus> i tried to zip a bunch of albums into a file and saved as much as i can on dvd, but when i instert the disc to extract  some have 0 items,...what happened to my music?
[16:32] <zus> opps wrong channel, sorry
[16:52] <ScottL> zus, i made an improved page for upgrading from vanilla ubuntu -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[16:52] <ScottL> astraljava, it's my fault for not updating the page you linked, perhaps i will do that tonight
[16:55] <zus> ScottL,  thank you.
[16:57] <zus> ign in the terminal does that mean ignore? i see a lot of hit and a few ign
[17:02] <holstein> zus: i usually suggest trying the generic kernel
[17:03] <holstein> and changing to the real-time one if need
[17:03] <holstein> !grub2
[17:04] <holstein> ^^ that'll tell you how to make changes to grub though
[17:04] <zus> holstein,  hey how are you...
[17:04] <holstein> not bad :)
[17:04] <holstein> waking up
[17:06] <zus> was on the drink last night....i didnt get your greeting till this morning
[17:06] <holstein> good for you
[17:13] <zus> so i dont have to add my name to the audio group with the 2.6.32-22-generic kernal?
[17:13] <rvchila> yes
[17:13] <rvchila> your name of user
[17:14] <holstein> zus: add it a log out and back in
[17:14] <zus> brb
[17:15] <holstein> add it and*
[17:24] <zus> i dont think i have the rt kernal and when running sudo gedit /etc/security/limits.comf i only have @audio - rtprio 99 should i just add the other 2 entires anyway? (@audio - nice - 19 and @audio - memlock unlimited)
[17:24] <holstein> zus: sure
[17:24] <holstein> are you having problems with your audio?
[17:24] <holstein> clicks or pops?
[17:25] <holstein> or latency issues?
[17:25] <zus> to be honest i have not yet opened up any of the programs yet...
[17:26] <holstein> i would suggest just using some of the software
[17:26] <holstein> and solving problems as they come up
[17:26] <holstein> add yourself to the audio group
[17:27] <zus> i've been looking through documentation and reading stuff on this
[17:27] <holstein> and add those 2 lines if you got the editor open
[17:30] <holstein> zus: have you opened JACK
[17:30] <holstein> ?
[17:30] <zus> nope , actually  got lmms opened now
[17:36] <zus> audio seems to be fine..
[17:38] <zus> now to  find a way to plug my bass into the computer. i have a poor set up
[17:39] <holstein> let the gear lust begin :)
[17:40] <holstein> ScottL: i added a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation
[17:40] <holstein> it links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[17:41] <holstein> !vanilla
[17:42] <zus> is there program simmilar to reason where you have your "rack" and ya just add the "instruments" underneath the "mixer" and "drum machine"
[17:42] <zus> aside from lmms
[17:42] <holstein> zus: im not sure what reason looks like
[17:42] <holstein> you can use ANYTHING with ANYTHING in JACK though
[17:43] <holstein> programs that are JACK aware can be routed where ever you want to route them
[17:45] <zus> brb
[17:58] <zus> i think im good for now,.. will setting up the video portion affect anything i've done in the audio?
[17:59] <holstein> zus: you mean installing the video apps?
[18:00] <zus> yeah, nothing should conflict
[18:00] <holstein> correct
[18:01] <zus> i like this set up much better than what i seen on the dvd,... im able to retain the Ubuntu lucid stuff as well as having ubuntustudio everything else,...am i able to change the log in screen and or boot splash?
[18:02] <holstein> in theory
[18:02]  * holstein looking
[18:08] <holstein> http://crashsystems.net/2010/04/changing-plymouth-themes/
[18:08] <holstein> i would look at that
[18:11] <zus> sweet thanks,.. brb
[18:28] <zus> holstein,  adding the @audio lines i did just earlier, gave me real-time accses for my applications,  is sudo su -c 'echo @audio - rtprio 99 >> /etc/security/limits.conf' the same thing?
[18:37] <zus> thank you all again for the help. i should be good to go then
[18:43] <ScottL> thanks holstein for adding the link!  that rocks man
[18:48] <zus> could i have done this with Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu? and  what about using these packages on other distros like mint9?
[19:21] <jussi> zus: with kubuntu youll be fine - however, mint we dont offer any support for.
[19:22] <zus> jussi thank you,..
[19:23] <jussi> zus: also, on ubuntu its recommended to use sudo -i instead of sudo su ;)
[19:25] <zus> jussi i just wouldnt download the theme packages for kubuntu then right?
[19:25] <jussi> yeah, no need for those :)
[19:27] <zus> shiny :)