[04:06] hello [06:23] hey zus [06:23] whats the good news? [11:40] morning! [14:12] holstein, hello [14:13] finally you´ve entered [14:14] do you mean about last night? [14:14] nop, i mean this time [14:14] since 12:40 [14:14] whatever, i´m hangover [14:14] oi, me too [14:15] my sister had her baby! [14:15] fucking garrafón [14:15] garrafon = the worst alcohol, something like imitation [14:17] i went to a friends house his kid graduated high school, it was fathers day, new uncle kinda thing all into one [14:17] arrogant bastard! now thats a brew! [14:18] how big is ubuntu studio after everything is installed,... [14:22] i suppose 2 or 3 gb [14:24] rvchila, http://www.arrogantbastard.com/animated/index.html [14:25] i would have prefered the dvd but i had to install ubuntustudio from synaptic on a clean ubuntu 10.04 [14:25] for me, i install ubuntustudio with the minimal imagen [14:27] which is fine because it looks identical to the dvd i tried but i have all the other ubuntu candy like that "me menu"....i dont feel i miss anything now....ecept i prefer the kde over gnome [14:27] but its not problem [14:27] you must install ubuntustudio metapackage and linux-rt [14:28] change the grub stuff [14:28] no ecept hunting tutorial and how to's for 3 gigs of items is a bit not fun... [14:29] my instalation is about 5 gb [14:29] what is the linux-rt? [14:29] i don´t know only ubuntustudio audio stuff [14:29] the kernel real time [14:30] whats that do then? [14:30] i don´t know in english, this kernel is perfect to have low latency [14:31] latency = time to write the input to the computer [14:31] ( sorry i´m spanish, and i don´t know english enough ) [14:32] in synaptic i have marked linux-rt headers 2.6.31-10 and the2.6.31-10rt and linux-headers-rt [14:32] linux-rt is a metapackage [14:33] oh, thats not marked... [14:34] in your terminal i would do that : sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins linux-rt^C [14:34] without ^C [14:35] that would not change the base ubuntu will it? [14:35] nop [14:35] in your grub list [14:35] you will choose the kernel rt [14:35] or the normal [14:36] i dont see a list when i boot up just a blank screen and underscore blinking...then the ubuntustudio splashscreen [14:36] ah ok [14:36] you will have to change the grub conf [14:36] on internet you will have a lot of information [14:37] but what will you use ubuntustudio ? [14:37] music creation [14:37] video? [14:37] or only have fun ? [14:37] for music [14:38] so i recomend you kernel rt [14:38] but my brother and i will be making videos as well,.... [14:38] it´s not problem [14:38] i think that [14:38] the kernel rt is to work in real time [14:39] whatever music , video graphic [14:41] i got a untrusted packages could compromise systems security. warning [14:41] i don´t know [14:42] linux-rt linux-image-2.6.31-10-rt linux-image-rt do you wnat to ignore this warning and proceed anyway [14:42] yes [14:43] well its nothing that i can re-install ive it ruins anything i guess [14:43] it would be fixed at the future [14:45] so my connections signal dropped to 48% and the install went from 23 minutes to 12hours....:( [14:45] where are you from ? [14:46] originally i am from puerto rico, but im an army brat, i've been to many places [14:47] i didnt enable the jack to be in real time though [14:47] you know spanish ? [14:47] i can write it phonetically. [14:47] i mean to read [14:47] ? [14:48] a good bit yes i can read spanish [14:48] but some of the words i have trouble with [14:49] http://semicorchux.blogspot.com/2010/01/indice-general.html [14:49] in this web you have information about every step [14:49] maybe you can use the translator of google [14:49] i wouldnt work for an insurance company, im probably considered illiterate when i comes to reading and writting in spanish [14:50] i learnt english in poland [14:50] :) [14:52] i realized the internet is HUGE and when most people ask do you know spanish i some how end up getting Portuguese, brazilan dialect and spain,...or some for of spanish im not too familiar with... [14:52] so i have began watching movies with the subtitles in other languages [14:52] great [14:53] ok the install is done, any need to reboot ? [14:53] yes [14:53] after that in the console [14:53] put uname -a [14:53] and tell me [14:56] Linux 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [14:57] ok [14:57] you don´t have the kernel rt [14:57] you will have to change de grub conf [14:57] seek on internet [14:57] ok. [14:58] and the first elecction would have to be rt [14:59] brb,... [15:07] ok after a reboot,.. [15:07] Linux 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [15:07] still the same [15:13] so i found online https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation , how do i make sure i have these packages installed already and if i missed one or not? [15:26] !vanilla | zus [15:26] zus: To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [15:26] zus: That's the up-to-date instructions page. [15:28] thanks [16:31] i tried to zip a bunch of albums into a file and saved as much as i can on dvd, but when i instert the disc to extract some have 0 items,...what happened to my music? [16:32] opps wrong channel, sorry [16:52] zus, i made an improved page for upgrading from vanilla ubuntu -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu [16:52] astraljava, it's my fault for not updating the page you linked, perhaps i will do that tonight [16:55] ScottL, thank you. [16:57] ign in the terminal does that mean ignore? i see a lot of hit and a few ign [17:02] zus: i usually suggest trying the generic kernel [17:03] and changing to the real-time one if need [17:03] !grub2 [17:03] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [17:04] ^^ that'll tell you how to make changes to grub though [17:04] holstein, hey how are you... [17:04] not bad :) [17:04] waking up [17:06] was on the drink last night....i didnt get your greeting till this morning [17:06] good for you [17:13] so i dont have to add my name to the audio group with the 2.6.32-22-generic kernal? [17:13] yes [17:13] your name of user [17:14] zus: add it a log out and back in [17:14] brb [17:15] add it and* [17:24] i dont think i have the rt kernal and when running sudo gedit /etc/security/limits.comf i only have @audio - rtprio 99 should i just add the other 2 entires anyway? (@audio - nice - 19 and @audio - memlock unlimited) [17:24] zus: sure [17:24] are you having problems with your audio? [17:24] clicks or pops? [17:25] or latency issues? [17:25] to be honest i have not yet opened up any of the programs yet... [17:26] i would suggest just using some of the software [17:26] and solving problems as they come up [17:26] add yourself to the audio group [17:27] i've been looking through documentation and reading stuff on this [17:27] and add those 2 lines if you got the editor open [17:30] zus: have you opened JACK [17:30] ? [17:30] nope , actually got lmms opened now [17:36] audio seems to be fine.. [17:38] now to find a way to plug my bass into the computer. i have a poor set up [17:39] let the gear lust begin :) [17:40] ScottL: i added a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [17:40] it links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu [17:41] !vanilla [17:41] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [17:42] is there program simmilar to reason where you have your "rack" and ya just add the "instruments" underneath the "mixer" and "drum machine" [17:42] aside from lmms [17:42] zus: im not sure what reason looks like [17:42] you can use ANYTHING with ANYTHING in JACK though [17:43] programs that are JACK aware can be routed where ever you want to route them [17:45] brb [17:58] i think im good for now,.. will setting up the video portion affect anything i've done in the audio? [17:59] zus: you mean installing the video apps? [18:00] yeah, nothing should conflict [18:00] correct [18:01] i like this set up much better than what i seen on the dvd,... im able to retain the Ubuntu lucid stuff as well as having ubuntustudio everything else,...am i able to change the log in screen and or boot splash? [18:02] in theory [18:02] * holstein looking [18:08] http://crashsystems.net/2010/04/changing-plymouth-themes/ [18:08] i would look at that [18:11] sweet thanks,.. brb [18:28] holstein, adding the @audio lines i did just earlier, gave me real-time accses for my applications, is sudo su -c 'echo @audio - rtprio 99 >> /etc/security/limits.conf' the same thing? [18:37] thank you all again for the help. i should be good to go then [18:43] thanks holstein for adding the link! that rocks man [18:48] could i have done this with Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu? and what about using these packages on other distros like mint9? [19:21] zus: with kubuntu youll be fine - however, mint we dont offer any support for. [19:22] jussi thank you,.. [19:23] zus: also, on ubuntu its recommended to use sudo -i instead of sudo su ;) [19:25] jussi i just wouldnt download the theme packages for kubuntu then right? [19:25] yeah, no need for those :) [19:27] shiny :)