[01:39] * ScottK predicts tears when cjwatson sees what I did to kubuntu-meta, but kubuntu-mobile is built from Universe, so it's a win. [01:40] what is kubuntu-mobile? [01:42] jjesse: It's a tech preview using plasma-mobile, somewhat along the same lines as the Kubuntu Netbook tech preview we did a coupld of cycles ago. [01:43] oh cool, so i can run it on my phone or something? [01:43] In theory. [01:44] My expectation is it will take more than one cycle to get there. [01:44] intersting [01:44] so do you head up all the tech previews we do :) [01:45] I'm not really heading this one up. This is a joint venture with Ubuntu Mobile team and some other interested community developers. [01:47] why kubuntu-mobile is built from universe? which package is in universe that can't go in main? [01:47] just curiosity... [02:13] lex79: We expect that there will be a lot of highly experimental packages for mobile widgets and stuff. [02:13] Eventually it'll go in Main, but for now, there's a lot more flexiblity in Universe. [02:13] The netbook tech preview was different, because it was just one additional package in Main. [02:14] ah right, got it :) === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [05:11] Riddell: Would you please have a look at poppler in binary New? tsdgeos was missing poppler-cpp in Maverick so I fixed the package to build it and I'd like for us to be responsive about getting it out. [06:13] * jussi waves to the channel [06:15] * nigelb waves to jussi [06:15] jussi: Good morning! having a good monday? [06:16] nigelb: its 815 and its monday.... can it be good? [06:26] jussi: definitely not :/ I'm having a bad one too [06:27] mind, dont we find out the new Kubuntu Council today? [06:27] yeah? oh! [06:27] * jussi thinks Riddell will do it when he wakes up. [06:31] ScottK: Riddell: its been a crappy weekend, but kdebase-workspace is about to get uploaded with armel fix [06:32] NCommander: nice work! [06:32] * jussi hugs NCommander [06:32] If it builds, I'll try and commit it to SVN upstream, but I might not get around to it [06:33] Uploaded [06:33] * NCommander waits for the Accepted email [06:35] WTH [06:35] I got rejected [06:36] "Signer is not permitted to upload to the component 'main'. [06:36] ... [06:36] is kdebase-workspace NOT in kubuntu-dev? [06:36] or did I fall out of kubuntu-dev [06:37] NCommander: are you trying to upload to ppa or? [06:37] NCommander: Shove it in bzr and I'll upload it. [06:37] Main archive [06:37] ScottK: its in bzr already, but I'm upset that I just got a reject [06:37] ScottK: let me figure out why I got rejected before you upload [06:38] ScottK: ~kubuntu-dev is the upload group, right? [06:38] Isnt it that only core devs can upload to main? or am I totally out of it... [06:38] NCommander: It is. -workpace may be in core. [06:38] Upload permissions where changed so some KDE packages can be uploaded [06:38] ScottK: .... ~kubuntu-dev is then completely useless IMHO [06:38] It was (I thought) supposed to be moved to the package set, but maybe it didn't get done [06:39] * NCommander thought it was stupid that a bunch of KDE packages were out of it but whatever [06:39] ScottK: feel free to sponsor [06:39] OK. [06:39] ScottK: obviously I misunderstood the role of kubuntu-dev when I got it since I've yet to upload a single package with it [06:39] I'll look at bindings sometime this week [06:40] NCommander: There's a few rough spots to work out yet. [06:40] ScottK: its already tagged 0ubuntu4 so if you end up making changes, remember to delete the dag [06:40] *tag [06:40] OK [06:40] ScottK: you still need me around, or cna I poof off for awhile? [06:41] poof [06:41] cool [06:41] ScottK: thanks for the upload. [06:41] ScottK: this should help quite a bit [06:42] Yeah and I want to get it uploaded before the Europeans wake up and fill the buildds. [06:42] ScottK: heh [06:42] cya [06:47] NCommander: Uploaded. Thanks for taking care of it. [09:32] Riddell: ping [09:33] Riddell: Damn. I'll see if I can talk to tokoe about a patch that will apply. [09:47] shadeslayer_: I see you worked on the k3b package too ... did you also look at the patches, and which could be upstreamed? [10:18] * apachelogger gets up after 11 hours of sleep and doesnt feel much better [10:19] party hardy equals tardy [10:20] * jussi huggles apachelogger [10:37] * apachelogger got a b on the relational database course -.- [10:37] better days I have seen clearly [10:37] * apachelogger rehuggles jussi [10:39] hi agateau [10:40] Riddell: hi, was wondering if you had more info about the dbusmenu problem you mailed me about [10:40] Riddell: but got some details from #plasma meanwhile [10:40] right click->boom [10:41] Riddell: was thinking about handy things like, you know, backtraces :) [10:42] uhhh [10:43] KC election ends in 18 minutes [10:46] ooh [10:47] * apachelogger hopes everyone voted already :) [10:47] * apachelogger also proudly presents his [I VOTED] sticker ^^ [10:48] * Riddell grumbles about popularity contests [10:55] agateau: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/6XtsHi2S [10:56] Riddell: ok thanks [11:03] * jussi waves his "I voted" sticker at apachelogger [11:03] pff :P [11:04] * apachelogger waits for Riddell to announce the new council members :P [11:04] do you want to know the results? [11:04] * apachelogger also callgrinds dolphin meanwhile [11:04] Riddell: just who is in [11:04] it means someone will lose and that's never a very nice thing [11:05] well, someones will tie to lose actually [11:05] brrr [11:06] maybe we should limit the amount of candidates to the amount of openings, that would certainly eliminate that problem :) [11:06] can you see http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=3&id=E_5351b17cef859a25&algorithm=beatpath ? [11:06] heh [11:06] aye [11:07] me, ScottK and neversfelde it is [11:07] oh, so top 3 are the council? [11:07] thanks to lex and jussi for taking part [11:07] Riddell, ScottK, neversfelde: congrats [11:07] * apachelogger hugs and jussi and hands him a cookie [11:08] aww [11:08] * apachelogger notes that now 6/6 are involved with development [11:09] * nigelb thinks that is a good thing [11:09] right, which is just why i don't like having a vote, you don't end up with the best mix as a team [11:09] I tend to agree. [11:09] *nod* [11:09] but thats what we have now. [11:09] we can and should try getting more non-dev people to apply actually [11:10] It was only me this time, no? [11:10] yep [11:10] congrats so um who are the 3 that expired by the way? [11:10] hmm mid-sentence topic switch [11:10] maco: Nightrose, seele, Riddell if I am not mistaken [11:10] congrats you three [11:11] and THEN as a *separate* sentence: [11:11] so who are the....? [11:11] :) [11:12] * apachelogger does not compute :P [11:14] apachelogger: i said "congrats so um..." but i was in the middle of typing "congrats you three" when i switched to "so um..." [11:15] * apachelogger still doenst compute [11:15] *retransmitting* [11:15] maco: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=3&id=E_5351b17cef859a25&algorithm=beatpath is the result of most recent KC election [11:15] hence jr, scott and nevi repalace jr, seele and nightrose [11:16] apachelogger: do you ever start saying a sentence and get distracted in the middle of it and say something nonsense instead? [11:16] * Nightrose blinks at apachelogger [11:16] no, I usually start saying a sentence and it is nonesense to begin with [11:17] * apachelogger pokes Nightrose with a fluffy bunny [11:17] <- irreplaceable [11:17] well [11:17] I wrote repalace [11:17] lol [11:17] meaning that they enter the palace of KC :P [11:17] :P i see [11:18] * Nightrose unblinks @ apachelogger then [11:18] it is all well thought through [11:18] i can see that now yes [11:18] ;-) [11:18] well, except for jr repalacing jr, that strikes me as complex to draw in a diagram [11:20] * apachelogger is not sure whether he reads this callgrind log correctly but of our old desktop file translation stuff the key translation itsemf seems to be most expansive too [11:20] * nigelb thinks apachelogger can talk his way out of anything [11:20] quite some heaping going on there [11:20] * apachelogger thinks that nigelb might be right [11:22] * apachelogger thinks that kconfig* should be written in dirty C as to improve overall KDE performance :P [11:22] the amount of usage of those class is scary [11:22] KConfigIniBacken's parseConfig gets called some 4092 times in a dolphin startup + context menu creation [11:25] apachelogger: Thanks. [11:25] and if I understand this listing here correctly then it is responsible for 16.95 % of the call costs or so [11:26] uh, congrats to Riddell, ScottK and neversfelde ! [11:26] that makes it come right after qstrcmp [11:26] Thanks. [11:45] "kduffus extended their membership of Kubuntu Members" yay, seaLne still one of us! [11:46] i feel like there's a scifi (doctor who?) reference in there [11:46] "one of us. one of us. one of us." [11:48] Riddell: Hi! One question about qt4-x11: why is armv6 forced for armel architectures? [11:48] \o/ the doctor [11:49] alf__: Because that's the lowest arm version we support in Ubuntu. [11:49] It wouldn't build if we didn't do that. [11:51] ScottK: Ok, so it just to set the lowest version... so forcing v7 should work, right? [11:51] Presumably. [11:51] I didn't look if there's upstream support for it or not (there is for v6) [11:52] Also as long as v6 -> v7 is still binary compatible. [11:53] if alf is packaging it for qt embedded it doesn't need to be binary compatible [11:53] ScottK, Riddell: Thanks, just wanted to make sure that nothing (known, at least) was blocking v7 builds [11:53] Riddell: True, but he referred to qt4-x11, so I assumed he meant out package. If it's not something for the archive,I think it's OT. [11:56] it is for the archive or PPAs [11:57] OK [11:58] It's not at all clear to us outsiders how much Linaro work goes in Ubuntu and how much is downstream. [12:10] Congrats to the winners... Would someone on the KCC like to update the /topic ? [12:12] kubotu: topic del 4 === kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are amazing <3 | Alpha 1 released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | speakers wanted https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are amazing <3 | Alpha 1 released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay Wed 7th July 18:00UTC [12:39] shouldn't be Karmic replaced with Maverick on the wiki page? [12:44] what wikipage now? [12:45] I expect we have plenty of wiki pages out of date [12:45] it's a wiki, edit :) [12:51] edited, now back to KDE translation [12:53] thanks ulysses! [12:53] ryanakca: can you make a kubuntu.org story with this http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/tutorials please [12:53] it was nothin ;) === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:12] Nightrose: is it just me or would the kde->git process be a perfect oportunity to make the release script less procedural and more objectal (i.e. refactor approach no 3) [13:13] apachelogger: i'm sceptical whenever you say refactor... ;-) [13:13] i just want it to work (TM) [13:14] arghhhh... medical journals... [13:14] i just want to read that paper and not really pay you a few hundred bugs [13:15] Nightrose: well, at the very least make the VCS stuff more objectal, the current procedual approach is sort of horrible considering the differences [13:15] *nod* [13:16] more generally speaking the release scripts could generate a releaseobj that has a vcsobj to the releasecore that does fancy stuff to produce a releasetar ;) [13:17] Nightrose: if you had invested more time in the important things back in school you could now be doing physics and make use of the vast paper sharing networks ;) [13:17] lol [14:09] Riddell: you alive? [14:12] NCommander: and kicking! [14:13] in a non-violent way [14:13] Riddell: for commiting on the kdebase SVN tree, should I file a bug on what I'm fixing first (ARM FTBFS) [14:13] * agateau wonders what a non-violent kick is [14:14] NCommander: no paticular need to, just exmplain what the issue is in the commit log [14:14] explain [14:16] On the off chance agateau was actually wondering: "alive and kicking" is an English idiom/slang for alive. No actual kicking involved. [14:17] ScottK: I know, it was just a (failed) attempt at being funny, thanks nevertheless :) [14:27] ugh [14:27] rosetta is spammy again [14:27] ScottK: kdebase-workspace built [14:28] yay [14:28] how's kdebindings doing? :) [14:29] Riddell: looks like someone dropped my python-qt4 voodoo or it broke with Qt 4.7 [14:30] \o/ [14:31] NCommander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.4.85-0ubuntu4/+build/1803895 says it's still building? [14:32] FWIW, ia64 finally caught up over the weekend and everything built fine, so it's "done". [14:39] In fact, workspace just hit the scary part: dpkg-deb: building package `kdebase-workspace-dbg' in `../kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.85-0ubuntu4_armel.deb'. [14:53] agateau: I had suspected that the QuickAccess crash was a kdelibs bug. Thanks for taking a look at it! [14:53] JontheEchidna: I couldn't stand the idea of living without this applet :) [14:59] ScottK: Riddell neversfelde congrats to all!!!! [14:59] now just tell me when the next meeting is >< [14:59] shadeslayer_: Thanks. [15:00] that's a good question [15:00] we should organise one this week [15:00] * shadeslayer_ sees that Rossetta has spammed him again :| [15:00] although I'm out most evenings this week [15:00] infact out all evenings [15:01] shadeslayer_: want to help us along by setting up doodle? [15:01] Riddell: sure thing... [15:01] Riddell: any specific stuff apart from my membership request? ( i can see agateau requested one too ) [15:01] ScottK: so Rosetta is spamming me as it builds? [15:01] Great [15:01] Who the hell invented that "feature" [15:02] NCommander: That's the archs that have finished. [15:02] shadeslayer_: not that I know of [15:02] * NCommander already got 100 or so emails [15:02] *sigh* [15:02] NCommander: someone who doesn't get spammed by it, we moan to dpm on a regular basis and there is a bug but nothing happens [15:02] Riddell: change the Changelog author to dpm [15:02] Then upload all of KDE [15:02] Problem will be solved :-) [15:03] hahaha :D [15:03] or lets combine all our rosetta mails and send them to dpm [15:03] bigger impact ;) [15:03] to whoever uploads the next lang pack [15:03] oh, c'mon people, I'm not even a LP developer! [15:03] you know what to do [15:04] I do pass on the poking to the rosetta devs, though [15:04] dpm: so who should feel/fear our Rosetta messages? ;-) [15:04] dpm: better have a good filter in your email ready :P [15:04] hahaha [15:05] shadeslayer_: thats no fun [15:05] apachelogger: i heard the money in GSoC was 5000 USD !!!!!! [15:05] * shadeslayer_ could buy 2 cars for $5k [15:05] NCommander, I'm sure you can find who the LP Translations developers are, as I'm sure you know how to set up e-mail filtering :P [15:06] dpm: yeah, but you don't expect it the first time around [15:06] I know, I know [15:07] A properly aimed language pack update could get the point accross. [15:08] Riddell: any ideas where i can poke ofir ? [15:12] Riddell: do i need to send out invites ? or do i just give you the link? [15:15] Riddell: ScottK apachelogger neversfelde and the rest KC idk :P : http://www.doodle.com/7b2a2rbdtqb5g3n5 [15:16] ScottK: who else is in KC ? [15:16] shadeslayer_: There's a team on LP. Look it up. [15:16] Riddell: We should have spec review for Maverick on the agenda. [15:17] JontheEchidna: rgreening http://www.doodle.com/7b2a2rbdtqb5g3n5 [15:17] ScottK: feel free to poke me and ill add it ;) [15:17] shadeslayer_: Add it. [15:19] done [15:23] a|wen: actuall JontheEchidna worked on the package,i merely pointed out that it was up for merging,but he put my name in the changelog :P [15:23] *actually [15:24] I did? [15:24] JontheEchidna: seems so... [15:24] oh wait it was ScottK :P [15:24] JontheEchidna: sorry :P [15:25] yeah, I usually remember when I merge packages :P [15:25] shadeslayer_: ah, okay ... then it most likely hasn't been done (as he asked me to do it) [15:26] JontheEchidna: shadeslayer_ pointed out that it had a pending merge and it took me about 1 minute to do, since it was trivial, so I added him to debian/changelog for the merge since noticing it needed doing was more work than doing it. [15:26] * shadeslayer_ thinks ScottK is far too kind [15:26] * a|wen was a bit confused by the 0ubuntu1 version number and it being merged [15:27] It had to be -0ubuntu1, since debian didn't have a rc4 package at the time [15:28] It was a merge, then an immediate diverging from the merge by doing a new upstream release [15:28] huh, weren't we already up-to date with the latest rc3 package [15:29] a|wen: there was a mail in the Kubuntu Devel ML about the rc4 package [15:29] and its benefits :) [15:29] shadeslayer_: i know ;) [15:30] :) [15:30] ok todays bug hug day is focussed on k3b , anyone around to help with triage ? [15:31] https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs-search?field.distribution=ubuntu&field.sourcepackagename=k3b&search=Search [15:31] shadeslayer_: in any case, you didn't do what was on my todo, so i can do it later ;) [15:31] a|wen: uh... i dont understand .... [15:32] shadeslayer_: no need to :) [15:32] shadeslayer_: yeah 5k, when I read that I was thinking about how much more money this would be if one is not austrian :) [15:33] hehe.. [15:33] translates to 2.5 lacs in INR :P [15:33] 5k are like 500 euros or so... silly euro -.- [15:33] anyhow [15:34] * apachelogger is supposedly getting an A on the HCI course [15:34] btw any comment on bug 325370 would be welcome,i dont know how to handle this one :) [15:34] Launchpad bug 325370 in k3b (Ubuntu) "please change default k3b success and error sound notifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325370 [15:35] Bug should be upstreamed and upstream should decide (based on the title) [15:36] ScottK: the issue is that k3b does not pull in the KDE theme sounds etc... [15:36] Definitely upstream then. [15:36] well thats what the description mentions anyhow .. [15:36] ok [15:36] * shadeslayer_ notices that no version is mentioned .... [15:38] kubotu: weather Gurgaon,India [15:38] Weather info for New Delhi, India (updated on 7:30 PM IST on June 21, 2010); Temperature: 104 F / 40 C; Humidity: 35%; Dew Point: 72 F / 22 C; Wind: ENE at 8 mph / 13 km/h; Pressure: 29.42 in / 996 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Unknown; Visibility: 1.7 miles / 2.8 kilometers; Yesterday's Cooling Degree Days: 41 approx.; Sunrise: 5:25 AM IST; Sunset: 7:22 PM IST; Moon Rise: 2:37 PM IST; Moon Set: 1:05 AM IST; Moon Phase: [15:38] Waxing Gibbous [15:38] omg... look at the humidity .... [15:39] jefferai: any idea how i can clear all buffers in your core? [15:39] ( of my account ) [15:39] Sput: ^ [15:40] jefferai: /clear doesnt work :P [15:40] * shadeslayer_ wonders why bugs.lp doesnt have a "Remove Comment" button [15:41] shadeslayer_: data integrity I suppose [15:42] hmm... true ..... [15:42] in lp you barely can remove stuff [15:43] omg... we have bugs dating back to fiesty and gutsy with k3b [15:44] shadeslayer_: you could have just linked to the meeting schedule in that doodle poll :P [15:44] !meeting [15:44] Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [15:44] ubottu: thank you :* [15:44] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:45] apachelogger: ill add it now :) [15:45] \o/ [15:45] shadeslayer_++ [15:45] :D [15:46] Done [15:48] anyone have media to test bug 296057 ? [15:48] Launchpad bug 296057 in k3b (Ubuntu) "k3b says "erasing failed" after erasing a DVDRW before writing, even though it has succeded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296057 [15:53] is there any rough estimate for the new kubuntu.org site? [15:53] claydoh: we have a testing site up [15:53] claydoh: http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/ [15:54] shadeslayer: I know, nice :) just curious if there was a guestimate on when it goes live [15:54] now [15:54] seriously [15:54] can someone [15:54] please [15:54] * shadeslayer seriously needs to poke ofir about that... [15:54] do something [15:54] about that ludicrous ktorrent icon [15:54] it makes me all dizzy when I see it [15:54] apachelogger: hehe... put on your ktorrent icon blocking glasses on :P [15:54] would it be ok to allow the general public to see that link? [15:55] claydoh: what for? [15:55] when you open that site in my college you dont see the ktorrent icon, the *torrent* regex is banned :P [15:55] I mean, it is generally public, so the general public may look at it, though I fail to see the point in advertising it ;) [15:55] staging.kubuntu.org [15:56] apachelogger: that's why I asked :) [15:56] shadeslayer_: supposedly you do not learn about torrents then ;) [15:56] claydoh: why? :P [15:56] * apachelogger is not very fast today [15:56] apachelogger: all the students leeched the crap out of the college server before the regex was banned :P [15:57] ap neither am I , and not very clear with my thoughts [15:57] shadeslayer_: lol, we have quotas for that :P [15:57] now usually when i have huge ubuntu upgrades,in the order of 500 MB,i take my laptop to the college and download like heck [15:57] get speeds of 500 KBps :P [15:58] ^^ [15:58] apachelogger: cool... i guess our sysadmins are a bit lagging :P [15:58] well [15:58] the key management system of our university was down for 10h straight... [15:58] apachelogger: just trying to se what sorts of titbits and gossip I can pass on to the kfn without creating havoc [15:58] tells a lot about the admins [15:59] claydoh: you better do not pass that there [15:59] remember how ignorant people are about reading :/ [15:59] it might be better suited to just distribute screenshots [16:00] especially since staging is not usable in either case [16:00] apachelogger: which is why I should have just asked more clearly for a rough guess on when it will go live :) [16:00] claydoh: the rough guess was some months ago to be around release :P [16:01] last thing I know it was just blocked on sysadmins doing things [16:01] and sysadmins are always super busy [16:01] so... [16:01] Oh my dpkg, it actually used to look like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/kubuntu/images/C/kubuntu-kynaptic.png === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [16:01] apachelogger: sysadmins for kubuntu site didnt know how to use drupal 6 ( or whatever the new version is ) [16:01] whoa... wiki seems to be down [16:01] ^^ [16:01] well [16:01] The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. [16:01] the wiki is made out of python [16:02] so it must go down regularly for repairs :P [16:02] apachelogger: moin moin == python? [16:02] I very much think so [16:02] ah... [16:02] whereas twiki == perl [16:02] * shadeslayer hates python now too [16:02] twiki is rather fancy from a technology POV IMHO [16:02] the usage paradigms are all weird though [16:02] moin moin doesnt recognize my Time Zone... [16:03] OTOH it uses HTTP where possible [16:03] i.e. I think it does not have it's own auth support but uses http authing [16:03] http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoplj1416-jpg.jpg (If the wiki's down) [16:03] also you do not have a "back from editing review" button but just use the browser's back feature [16:04] JontheEchidna: is this your new ui? [16:04] I love it [16:04] lol [16:04] [11:01:22] Oh my dpkg, it actually used to look like this: [16:04] We've come a long way in 5 years [16:04] JontheEchidna: me wants the start icon! [16:05] wellllll [16:05] JontheEchidna: if the toolbar had sensible icon size + text it would be half bad [16:05] seems rather straight forward [16:05] shadeslayer: shtylman gave it to me at UDS. One sec [16:05] JontheEchidna: sure [16:05] * shadeslayer is bored of the KDE one [16:06] JontheEchidna: you really should be using qtassistant or qtcreator BTW [16:06] using assistant with Qt and KDE API made me 200% more efficient [16:06] * apachelogger also uses it for larger university projects too ^^ [16:06] apachelogger: stupid qtcreator doesnt pick up the installed examples here [16:07] well [16:07] * shadeslayer has qt4-doc-html installed :P [16:07] usually that is more like stupid packagers, but oh my :P === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [16:07] shadeslayer: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-kubuntulogo-png.png [16:07] oi oi oi [16:08] * apachelogger needs to talk about his TCP & HTTP implementions in half an hour [16:08] apachelogger: ok i packaged the beta2 release for qtcreator... [16:08] any idea what may have gone wrong? [16:08] wrong path somewhere [16:08] shadeslayer_: check the code for where it would be looking for the examples [16:09] then search for a way to change it to where we have them [16:09] filtering on installed packages in the KDE category \o/ http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoprp1416-jpg.jpg [16:10] JontheEchidna: ++ [16:10] love the new GUI [16:10] adept? you have adept installed? lol......... [16:10] don't knock the adept [16:10] JontheEchidna: where did that name come from? [16:11] apachelogger: Following the "name your kapp after subatomic particles" fad, plus "Mooooooo" goes the supercow [16:11] Mooouon :P [16:11] exactly! [16:11] well then call it Muoon :P [16:12] make the icon be a cow [16:12] then everyone is happy ;) [16:12] JontheEchidna: a cow with blue patches :P [16:12] I will put an easter egg of a cow mooing, activatable by Crtl+M+U [16:12] apachelogger: then you can change the icon to one with pink patches in fluffy :P [16:12] * apachelogger likes that [16:13] how about just going with purple :P [16:13] The easter egg is a must-have, blocker feature of 1.0! [16:13] http://www.kraftfoods.de/kraft/images/dede1/pictures/3_2_2milka_kuh_72.jpg [16:13] JontheEchidna: I agree [16:13] http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/25000/Milka-Cow--25254.jpg [16:13] Btw, I'm thinking of doing a custom widget for the sidebar [16:14] heh.. i heard there was a gay parade in berlin this saturday.... [16:14] as long as you use CSS + SVG for it [16:14] apachelogger: poor cow.... [16:14] A frame widget with properly-aligned text, with sunken-frame buttons that hide/show the list views [16:14] shadeslayer_: there always is a gay parade in berlin, just that only sometimes they actively promote it :P [16:15] apachelogger: hehe :) [16:15] * shadeslayer clones qtcreator git to check issues [16:15] http://www.csd-berlin.de/ [16:15] How do I install kubuntu using the text installer? [16:15] client side decorations ftw! [16:15] dantti: you need the "alternate" CD image [16:15]