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harvey...00:03
harveyso.   how does one change the resolution in kubuntu?00:07
harveyin fact even better00:07
harveyhow does one get people to talk00:07
darko3daudio and mic stops working on my dv5 laptop and the only way to get it to work is to restart, how do i fix that00:13
gfgu11darko3d: have you tried in Konsole the command "alsamixer"?00:15
darko3dyeah i get a an audio panel00:16
darko3dnow what00:16
gfgu11raise up all level00:17
darko3dhow do i do that00:17
gfgu11with arrows00:17
darko3dwell they're all at the top00:19
darko3d10000:19
gfgu11then esc00:19
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darko3dnow what00:19
darko3dthis is so weird, its not a driver problem if it works after reset,right?00:20
macodarko3d: sudo alsa force-reload <-- will keep you from having to reboot00:21
macoits still just a workaround not a fix...but better than rebooting00:21
darko3dok that fixed it00:22
darko3dbut i dont have to rely on that forever00:22
darko3dcause it seems to me that every since i switched to ubuntu i've been loosing functionality day by day00:22
macocan you find a pattern as to when things stop working? maybe after youve used flash?00:23
darko3di cant use kde anymore cause no keyboard and i use the screen keyboard at the login page, then the mouse stopped working for a while and now this00:24
macoor after a suspend/resume? if its that, then itd be a driver problem almost certainly00:24
macoO_o00:24
darko3dno nothing like that00:24
darko3dbeen using skype actully then i hung up00:24
darko3d10 minutes later i get a call and it stops00:24
macois it always after using skype that it stops working?00:24
macoskype and flash both do ... odd... things to the audio apis in linux00:25
darko3dno not just skupe00:26
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darko3di could stop working and leave the workspace for a while and then come back and find the audio not working00:26
darko3dwhats the command to reconfigure kde to get the jeyboard to work00:29
macoi dont know... thats not a normal thing to have to do00:31
macosounds like youre hitting some weird bugs00:31
macothis is hardware or a vm?00:31
darko3dhardware00:31
macoand the keyboard doesnt work in kde but does in gnome?00:32
darko3dyeah00:32
darko3dand doesnt work on the login page00:32
macomaybe try sudo dpkg-reconfigure consolesetup00:32
macosorry thats console-setup00:33
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darko3dok guna restart and see what happens00:38
darko3dmaco it worked00:44
darko3dim in kde now00:44
macoyay!00:44
darko3di cant thank u enough00:44
macoive not heard of that bug hitting actual hardware before :-/00:44
darko3dand the login screen worked too00:44
macoive only seen it in VMWare00:44
darko3doh, its a known bug00:45
macoyes but its *only* known as affecting vmware...and its marked fixed00:46
macobug 54889100:46
maco:(00:46
macoubottu: bug 54889100:46
macohrmph00:47
macohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/54889100:47
darko3dwell all i know is that it really messed up my experience, its the first time i use ubuntu as my main os00:48
macoplease file a bug with: ubuntu-bug xorg-server00:48
macoyeah i had a nasty surprise with it on vmware. only reason i know that bug existed00:49
darko3dkk, will do00:49
macoand there was no onscreen keyboard in kde 4.4 so the fact that kdm has a way to reach a text login is the only thing that saved me00:49
darko3dthanks guy\girl00:49
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darko3dwell at one point i had the mouse stop working00:50
proxidhi all00:51
darko3dso i had to look up how to fix that on my cellphone and do it from the console00:51
darko3dhonestly im taking a big hit in my productivity rate, but im hoping that i'll earn good experience and at one point have everything ironed out00:52
caprshallo00:54
Typos_Kingallo00:57
francesco_sup01:39
bigleonHello there, So I have a question I got Dell Wireless Card 1397, from what i'vve researched I needed a "bcmwl-kernel-source" so installed that from repository... My Wireless is now showing unable to "activate"01:54
claydohbigleon: have you tried the Hardware Drivers tool under the System menu? I think it needs the b43-fwcutter to enable this broadcom based card in more recent *buntus02:00
bigleonclaydoh Yeah thats actually trouble shooting step i've arrived to.02:01
stabaresis that a BCM4312 card?02:03
bigleonClaydoh it appears that the driver has been "activated" but wireless can't scan for SSID's02:03
bigleonstabares i'm honestly not sure02:03
stabarestry this on a console: lspci  | grep BCM02:04
bigleonBCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)02:04
stabareswhen i installed b43-fwcutter i had some problems with the mirror02:05
bigleonOh, do you have a working solution?02:05
stabaresit's the same as mine02:05
stabareslet me see...02:05
bigleonInsprion i1764?02:06
stabaresno, a dell here02:06
bigleonDell insprion i1764.. lol...02:06
bigleoninpsrion i1764 is laptop model02:06
stabaresah02:06
stabaresan xps 153002:07
bigleonOhh nifty...  yeah i'm running 17" insprion Flavor :D save thousand dollars on the name.02:07
bigleonOH i know where problem lies, 64bit vs 32bit :D02:09
bigleonapprently different drivers for each with broadcom02:09
stabareshmm, how do you find wich files belongs to a package?02:10
stabaresi edited the mirror in a script, but i don't remember where it was02:10
bigleonwell I went to broadcom website... and they got a nice lengthy process where i need to recompile it all my self02:13
stabaresi found it02:13
bigleonOh?02:14
stabarestry this on the console: /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh02:14
bigleonusr change that to my root username?02:14
bigleoni'm getting no such file/directory02:15
stabaressudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter02:15
stabaresdo that then02:15
bigleon"this aptitude does not have super cow powers" error msg O-o02:16
stabares?02:16
bigleonnvm now it's working lol02:17
bigleonsame error as b-4 no directory02:17
bigleonsorry i realized problem eithernet keeps unplugging02:17
bigleonso it told me it installed with no data.02:17
FloodBotK3bigleon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:17
stabaresthat should automatically download the firmware for you02:18
bigleonYeah i belive it did so02:18
bigleonLet me attempt a reboot see if that helps.02:19
stabaresthen you can reload the b43 module, and wireless should work02:19
stabaressudo rmmod b4302:19
stabaressudo modprobe b4302:19
stabareseasier than rebooting :)02:19
bigleonMod b43 does not exist in proc/mod02:19
bigleonproc/modules**02:19
stabaresdid you change the kernel?02:19
bigleonNot to my knowledge...02:20
stabarestry the modprobe line02:20
bigleonmodprobe?02:20
bigleonOH gotcha one sec02:20
stabaressudo modprobe b4302:20
bigleonokay not sure what did...02:21
stabaresif all is right wireless should start working now02:21
bigleonwell apprently all is not right yet... let me reboot ultimate failsafe.02:22
bigleonNow i think that did it... just need a good ol fashion reboot02:24
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bigleoni stand corrected it seems i can activate my wireless now...  but i can't seem to scan down the network02:25
bigleonthere it goes reset the adapter...02:26
bigleonactivating.... active!!! Thanks a bucnh stabares :D02:27
bigleonYou ought to make a forum post about your solution  to help others with similar problem :D02:28
stabaresusing the hardware drivers tools should do the same02:29
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lovrehi all02:45
lovrehow can i hide window title bar, i can only configure it, but i would like to turn it off?02:45
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newiois something messed up with setting static IP's on 10.04?03:09
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david_ hi all, i have a question, I lost the ability to see in the task bar things that have been minimized, any idea how to get that back?03:34
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newiothe task bar in kde is a fickle beast03:52
newiothere's a few options is the task manager settings, something might be in there03:52
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zusbronlar are you around?04:21
Fieldy!flash04:27
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash04:27
Fieldywell, i followed those instructions for 10.04, but it says i already have it installed, yet nothing i try to use with flash says i actually have the plugin. restarting the browser doesn't resolve it.04:30
Fieldytrying to remove it says I don't have it installed...04:30
socrateshi04:43
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JoitHi05:52
Joitsoemone awake for some silly questions?05:53
pawanhi05:59
bigleonAnybody happen to own a Insprion i1764 or have a Dell Wireless 1397 (BCM4312) Mind helping me trouble shoot06:03
bigleonI got it running this afternoon and I come back 3 hours later ( was on win 7 on same system... for a while) And now it's like not working.06:03
bigleonIs there anyway to go back and make sure i 64bit kubuntu and 32bit?06:09
bigleongot**06:09
ilyakIt seems that kubuntu 10.04 doesn't clean /tmp on reboot06:27
ilyakIt doesn't? How to make it clean /tmp as debians always did?06:28
ilyakThe problem is, stale konsole logs stack there06:28
luis_good nigt everyone i am having problems downloading youtube.com, it takes ages and when it does the page is with a lot of errors, y google a little and i found this: http://www.kproxy.com/youtube-proxy.jsp thats a webpage i found so i can get into youtube but why is not downloading the way it use to can anyone help please?????06:40
well_laid_lawnsounds like a slow proxy server luis_06:42
well_laid_lawn!proxy06:42
luis_the thing is that with the other page i get into it easy06:45
luis_how can i fix that ?06:45
well_laid_lawnthe other pages are only small compared to a vid file - tried youtubedl.py?06:48
luis_ok06:48
luis_lets see06:48
luis_youtubedl.py won't work at all06:49
luis_but how can a proxy serer problem can be if i use cable and i have firefox  configure not tu use any proxy???06:50
luis_server*06:50
well_laid_lawnit is a cli app yes?06:50
bigleonQuick QUestion i'm in wireless driver hell and apprently there one command fix is "sh: for i in `find /lib /var -name wl\.ko`; do mv $i ${i}.orig; done" unfornately when trying to do this command i get a "syntax error near unexpected token `do'   "06:53
well_laid_lawnbigleon: looks like the do is in the wrong place - comes after the for a in b;06:55
bigleonOh ji'm using the latest release of kubuntu 10.4 (up to date)06:55
bigleonso it should be "sh: for do i in `find /lib /var -name wl\.ko`;  mv $i ${i}.orig; done" instead?06:56
bigleonSorry this stuff is very confusing for me i haven't messed with linux in a long while06:57
well_laid_lawnbigleon: no - sorry the script seems ok except I never use the  {}  around a variable06:58
bigleonwell then what would cause the syntax error?06:58
well_laid_lawnlike in   ${i}.orig  - just $i.orig06:59
well_laid_lawnmaybe the wl\.ko - is that meant to be wl*.ko or ...06:59
bigleonI did the base with a sudo command to make sure it wasn't a permission error and i get "bash" syntax error near unexpected token do"07:01
bigleonIt would appear i laged out ifyou had responded to my question if it made it well_laid_lawn07:02
bigleonI replied I attempt taking out {} as well as orginal and still get the syntax error.07:03
well_laid_lawnbigleon: checking it in cli atm - one min07:04
bigleonalright.07:04
bigleonany luck?07:09
well_laid_lawnbigleon: for i in `find /lib/var -name wl*.ko`; do mv $i ${i}.orig; done   works here07:10
LightningI'm having wireless problems, Kubuntu Lucid.07:11
LightningMy wireless connection shows in NM but I can't load it. Everytime i click on it it gets clicked but nothing happens07:11
bigleonI don't need the sh: ?07:11
well_laid_lawnLightning: seems most people end up installing wicd atm and disabling knetworkmanager07:12
LightningOkay.07:12
well_laid_lawnbigleon: I never need it07:12
LightningI'll try it. I can still scan, but can't connect07:12
bigleonI tried "for i in `find /lib /var -name wl*.ko`; do mv $i ${i}.orig; done" and got same syntax error07:13
well_laid_lawnLightning: I've never used wireless - I'm the wrong bloke to ask07:13
bigleondoes running kubuntu using wubi have anythign to do it.07:13
LightningOkay07:13
well_laid_lawnbigleon: you have a space in the path -   /lib /var07:13
bigleonLightning atleast you can see the networks. Lol I'm having wireless hell trying to get the driver up so i can see the network07:13
bigleonwell with out a space i get "find: `/lib/var': No such file or directory"07:14
well_laid_lawnbigleon: it doesn't exist here either07:14
bigleonand then when i have space.... i get a syntax error...07:14
bigleonthe orginal code has a space...07:14
well_laid_lawntells alot about the original code bigleon07:15
LightningWhat card do you have bigleon?07:15
bigleon*sigh* yeah well_laid_lawn but i went strait to the "Offical" source... i was hoping of all people they'd have it right...07:15
bigleonis there anyways i can manually go and do what code is attempting to do here this this discrption "Ubuntu ships a version of wl.ko, so those need to be disabled.  On my07:16
bigleonsystem the were several versions, so I searched and renamed the .ko's07:16
bigleonlike this:"07:16
bigleonand then the code as previously mentioned07:16
bigleonLIghting i have a Dell Wireless 139707:16
well_laid_lawnbigleon: are those .kos in /lib?07:17
bigleonwell_laid_lawn I honestly don't know...07:17
bigleonI just did what the readme told me to do.07:17
well_laid_lawnbigleon: try  for i in `find /lib/ -name wl*.ko`; do mv -v $i $i.orig; done07:18
bigleona guy for me in other channel just randomly gave me the solution "find /lib /var -name wl.ko -exec sh -c 'mv -v "$1" "$1.orig"' _ {} \;"07:19
bigleonI'm gonna try a reboot and "hope" driver is up and running07:19
bigleonalright...07:23
bigleonI think i feel a headache comming on...07:23
bigleon!wireless07:23
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:23
bigleonBLAH time for a reinstall how can i toss kubuntu to a factory direct setting???07:24
bigleonwith out busting out the disk?07:24
LightningUpdate07:25
Lightning:)07:25
Lightning(Doesn;t work007:25
bigleonHuh?07:25
LightningBust out the disk07:26
bigleonsigh...07:28
bigleonEhh Guess i'll be back in an hour07:28
SandGorgonquick question - how does one use the 'find' command to find all filenames with png OR jpg OR bmp as the suffix07:38
removidoHow to configure phonon-xine?08:53
removidoKaffeine only has sound and black screen. I installed xine-ui and it works ok. Why?08:55
well_laid_lawnsounds like kaffeine has a diff vid driver chosen removido08:56
well_laid_lawncheck in the menu for the config option08:57
removidohow can I change the driver08:57
well_laid_lawncheck in the menu for the config option08:57
removidokaffeine has not xine config parameters08:58
well_laid_lawntry   man kaffeine08:58
well_laid_lawnI don't use it sorry08:59
removidoin settings-multimidia phono-backend xine has only desintrelance option08:59
removidocanal irc?08:59
well_laid_lawn!es08:59
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.08:59
removidook I'll try09:00
well_laid_lawnluck09:00
well_laid_lawnremovido: what is canal?09:00
removido#kaffeine09:01
noaXessgood morning09:44
noaXessis there a simple KDE tool to format USB-Drives?09:44
well_laid_lawnkparted might do it noaXess09:45
noaXessapt-cache show kparted09:46
noaXessW: Unable to locate package kparted09:46
noaXessis there no newer gui?09:47
well_laid_lawn!unetbootin | this "might"09:48
ubottuthis "might": For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:48
amichair!usbcreator09:50
amichair!usb09:50
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:50
amichair!usb-creator09:51
amichairoh well... in any case, there's the startup disk creator provided with kubuntu09:53
noaXesswell_laid_lawn: found partitionmanager09:53
noaXess!partitionmanager09:53
ubottuPartitionManager is a !KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !KPackageKit, !Adept or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install partitionmanager » in a !terminal09:53
well_laid_lawnnoaXess: never tried it but luck! :}09:54
mimehi ppl, i have an external hdd in nfts, and tried mounting it into kubuntu 9.04 trough console, in all the possible an inimaginable ways, runed several 'detection systems'', and not appears, only makes noise, and mount/unmounts alone, tried to format in xp installation, but it not gives a format error, is another type, not allowing me to change. i must say thatn xp detect its correctly09:55
mimeany idea, thnx09:55
well_laid_lawnmime: what does   sudo fdisk -l   tell about it?09:56
mimeDisc /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 octets09:57
mime255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders09:57
mimeUnits = cilindres of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes09:57
mimeDisk identifier: 0x38e823e009:57
mimeDispositiu Arrenc.   Inici         Final    Blocs    Id  Sistema09:57
FloodBotK3mime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:57
mime/dev/sda1   *           1       38913   312568641   83  Linux09:57
mimelook,  i tried in sda1 2, etc09:58
well_laid_lawn!paste | mime10:00
ubottumime: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:00
mimeyeah ill paste it there, i sec plz10:00
well_laid_lawnmime: unplug the external - do sudo fdisk -l - plug in the external do sudo fdisk -l - what's diff?10:01
mimehey lawn, no difference10:01
mimeis like it doesnt detect it-mount it10:02
mimehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/452849/10:03
well_laid_lawnmime: in xp in   my computer   if the disk shows up you can right click it and format it10:09
mimeyeah, i did it 1000 times, but the same, works in xp and iin linux no... and other times it takes soooo long10:10
mimeis very strange10:10
well_laid_lawnmime: sounds like failing h/ware if the symptoms are erratic10:11
mimethe internal hdd software?10:12
well_laid_lawnh/ware=hardware="the external drive"10:12
mimeok10:13
mimeis a solution? what do u think?10:14
mimewell, i may go to buy food with my mother10:15
mimei live it open, thnx anyway 4 ur time10:15
mimei wish live pay it10:15
mimelife10:16
well_laid_lawn:}10:16
mimehey, finally im not going10:17
mimewell, it sounds like i may carry the hdd and take it to the factory...10:18
mimedo u think that would be a solution :   http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/format-usb-ntfs/10:20
well_laid_lawnor try it in another comp mime10:20
mimeok10:20
mimesorry, that link is erronious, i dont find it10:23
well_laid_lawnk10:24
mimewell the same story10:32
mimenevermind, thanx anyway10:32
mimeill chek my bios config, cya10:34
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DelboyMerleyAny idea how I get caps lock, etc. displayed in the ICON tray, my keyboard doesn't have the LED's13:38
l3hi all13:52
Andrew9l3: hi13:55
ilumihow can i disable sleep and hybernate?13:57
Andrew9ilumi: you should be able to find power management settings in the control center13:59
ilumii do see power, but i dont see any options to disable13:59
Andrew9ilumi: i don't have my kubuntu powered on so i can't recall the exact path to those settings sorry. but i know it is there14:02
ilumiok thank you14:05
cemi am having a problem about grub. i have format the windows partition and lost the access to kubuntu. Is there anyone can help me out?14:11
francesco_ciao14:24
santoshhi frnds14:32
jwc44hi14:40
jwc44How to Install Cairo Dock on kubuntu  10.04?14:40
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simpleanecdoteHey guys. The last thing I want is to start a flame war. However, I'm going to buy a new laptop and my choice comes down between two models, one of which has nvidia GTS360m or Quadro FX 880M and the other an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470. Is the ATI driver support still a problem?15:17
simpleanecdoteI should mention the laptop's native screen resolution will be 1920x108015:17
simpleanecdoteapologies - wrong channel.15:18
mario____hellooooooooooooooooooooooo15:24
albertzhi. what is the proper way to disable >=1600x1200 screen resolution?15:33
* JammieDodger sprays aids on your faces15:44
JammieDodgerplease enjoy15:44
JammieDodgerPLEASE15:44
JammieDodgerive worked very hard to ferment it inside of me15:44
DelboyMerleyI found the setleds command which will tell me how they are set, but I want an onscreen display of the lock keys15:53
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dooduhi all16:01
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cato37Konqueror is extremely slow on the internet as a browser. are there any ways to spead it up?16:19
cato37!konqueror16:20
BluesKajcato37, how do you mean slow , compared to what other browser ?16:21
cato37compared to firefox. i like the idea of using konqueror as an a part of the integrated system, but it takes up to 20 to 30 seconds to load most pages16:22
cato37firefox loads right away, or at the most may take about 5 seconds or so.16:23
BluesKajcato37, ok dunno why that could be , but I've given up on FF and konq id quick enuff but too much trouble to configure, so I've switched to chromium-browser , which is faster than anything else IME16:25
simpleanecdotecato37: Konqueror is really slow. Stop using it ;P16:26
simpleanecdotecato37: FF is very nice. But I found Chrome to be just awesomely fast on Kubuntu16:26
* Torch notes that konqueror (with khtml) may have some issues, but speed is generally not among them.16:27
simpleanecdoteNot on Windows. But on Kubuntu, Chrome just runs too fast for FF to follow. However, extensions still suck when you're talking web-development compared with FF... So it's a different purpose, different use ;P16:27
andy__I have a naive question:  where to report a bug in Lucid with the network management applet?  The binary is called "knetworkmanager" I believe, but the package by that name seems to be something unrelated.16:27
BluesKaji like the sync options in chrome/chromium between computers...very cool16:27
cato37i am not as concerned about fast as i am about security, but konqueror is very slow on this system, andi was wondering what might be the cause to fix it.16:28
simpleanecdoteBluesKaj: use Xmarks to sync not only all computers, but all browsers ;P16:28
Torchcato37: there's something wrong with your setup then16:28
BluesKajnetwork-manager-kde , andy__16:28
andy__Aha, network-manager-kde, thanks BluesKaj16:28
BluesKajor networkmanager-kde16:28
andy__Are they different?  Yikes16:29
BluesKajno16:29
cato37what should i do about the setup?16:29
BluesKajcato37, setup?16:30
andy__When I typed that into launchpad it said the package is called "plasma-widget-networkmanagement"16:30
cato37regarding the very slow conqueror speeds. 30 seconds to load pages vs. firefox taking about 5.16:31
BluesKajlaunchpad ?16:31
cato37*konqueror16:31
andy__Is that not where I should be?  I want to report a bug in Kubuntu16:31
Torchandy__: there's a plasma widget for network manager and a systray program.16:31
solifugusX is leaving with with a black screen..16:31
BluesKajwhy there ? unless you want to report a bug that's already been reported a thousand times16:32
solifugusDoes anyone know how to boot into runlevel 3 ?16:32
andy__OK, where should bug reports on Kubuntu go?16:32
karurukubuntu is a bug, they hacked kde to death16:33
BluesKajlaunchpad is correct andy__ , but it's pretty redundant at this point16:33
andy__Heh!  I have to say, that sort of matches the impression I got by looking around in there...16:34
andy__But Kubuntu on the whole works pretty well so I figured they must have _some_ good infrastructure for dealing with bug reports16:34
Torchandy__: all they can do is forward bugs to the application author16:35
andy__I see... Well, that is part of my trouble -- I don't really know what the "upstream" is for this particular gadget16:35
Torchandy__: bugs.kde.org16:35
andy__The thing I am talking about is the systray icon that handles wireless network management16:35
BluesKajandy__, replicating your konqueror issue could be very difficult sibce it also acts as afile manger and can be configured in so many diffewrent ways .16:36
andy__Oh, it is part of the regular KDE?  I actually had not realized that, for some reason I thought it was a custom Ubuntu thing.16:36
Torchandy__: it started out as a custom suse thing, iirc.16:36
BluesKajerr sorry i mean't cato3716:36
andy__Aha, I see.  OK, so maybe kde.org is the place to try.  Thanks!16:36
cato37ic. is there a way to set everything in konq to defaut, or "reinstall" it somehow in order to get it to load webpages in a timely manner?16:38
BluesKajandy__, if you are using network manager for an ethernet connection then removing it is safe if you decide to follow this tutorial to avoid using NM altogether by using /etc/network/interfaces  ,http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/16:41
andy__BluesKaj:  Hmm.  I am using it for wireless, so I guess I don't have that option...16:42
andy__Actually I am basically happy with it, there are just a couple of bugs, which seem as though they should be "trivial" to fix if I can just figure out where the heck to report them16:42
BluesKajandy__, well there is a wifi option, but it's rather complicated ...I tried it but couldn't make it work.16:43
BluesKajwhich bugs , andy__ ?16:44
andy__The main thing that drives me crazy is:  When you try to add a new wireless network connection, it pops up a dialog box where you are supposed to enter the info for that connection...  But the box is already populated with the info from some OTHER wireless network connection16:45
andy__You have to close the dialog and open it again... Then it comes up with the info from a DIFFERENT connection...16:45
andy__Finally after doing this about 10 times, the dialog comes up populated with "New Wireless Connection" as it should16:45
andy__and then you can add a new connection properly16:46
andy__Sounds trivial, but when you are traveling a lot, it becomes incredibly annoying.  Of course, that is also the time when you are least likely to sit down and figure out where the heck to report the bug16:47
BluesKajhmm, i tried that as well with a belkin usb wifi adapter on my desktop pc and it seemed to take forever to find the essid and the finally fail to connect (driver probs) .. andy__ , I know what you mean , NM is very clunky.16:48
solifugusDoes anyone, anywhere know how I can log into kubuntu in text mode?16:51
solifugusboot into kubuntu in text mode, that is..16:51
solifugusI have no GUI.. my screens are black.. I need to get the proper drivers installed.16:51
cato37andy__: i have the same problem with my nm setup, but only use one connection. thank you for taking the time to report it as a bug.16:53
solifugusnobody loves me.16:53
BluesKajsolifugus, ctrl,alt,f1 , sudo service kdm stop , then install your driver , then sudo service kdm start , then ctrl,alt,f716:54
cato37BluesKaj: is there a way to set everything in konq to defaut, or "reinstall" it somehow in order to get it to load webpages in a timely manner?16:58
solifugusBluesKaj: ur brilliant.. thanks!17:00
andy__Finally found the bug in launchpad...17:00
andy__I added my complaint there17:01
andy__cato37:  maybe you can also mark that you are affected by it?  it is #57770017:01
cato37andy__: thanks, i will do so. :)17:02
solifugusBluesKaj: it doesn't work..  cannot get to a virtual console..  something worse must be wrong.  but it always breaks when starting kdm.17:04
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BluesKajsolifugus,  a tty is not a virtual console , it's the command line that purists use without a GUI/Desktop environment ...are you seeing the grub menu at bootup ?17:15
solifugusyes.. I see grub fine..17:15
solifugusI saw gui during the entire install process17:16
solifuguslivecd works fine17:17
solifugusactually the screen rapidly dissappears after grub..  not sure when.. but it stick around longer when using the recovery kernel17:17
solifugusall that text flies up the screen really quick.. so it's hard to see what's actually happening.17:18
BluesKajsolifugus, then it looks like you need the right graphics driver, which graphics card do you have ?17:18
solifugusI found it turns dark when starting kdm, using other distros17:18
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solifugusIt's nvidia17:18
solifugusIt's a Dell Precision T150017:18
solifugusdual monitor17:18
solifugus4 cores, 4G ram..17:19
solifugusIntel17:19
BluesKajwhich nvidia ?17:20
solifugusI googled a lot..17:20
solifuguslet me go back into the livecd so I can do an lspci17:20
BluesKajlspci | gerp VGA will give you the card17:20
solifugussure.. but probably grep would work better than gerp17:21
solifugusalthough, gerp sounds cuter..17:21
BluesKajerr lspci | grep VGA17:21
BluesKaj:)17:21
solifugusBluesKaj: it just says: 01:00.0 VGA compabitle controller: nVidia Corporation Device 06fd (rev a1)17:25
solifugusIt's an Intel Core i517:26
crayvenHi, just a short question. I used in january/february the kubuntu netbook edition but this version was very unstable and buggy. Is there a newer version?17:26
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BluesKajsolifigus , were you able to get to a terminal/TTY with ctrl+alt+f1, after booting from the grub menu ?17:28
solifugusBluesKaj: no.. unfortunatelynot..17:31
solidturtlehi, I would like how do I reset my kde session to start a fresh new session?17:31
BluesKajsolifugus,  are you on the live cd still ?17:32
solifugusBluesKaj: I am now.. yes17:32
solifugusin konsole17:32
BluesKajsolifugus, ok try this in the terminal , sudo lshw -C video17:33
BluesKajsolidturtle, logout and relogin17:33
solidturtleBluesKaj: ok but it saves process if I do like that17:34
BluesKajthen , reboot17:34
solifugusBluesKaj: ok.. got some vasic information about it..17:35
LightningStupid question, how do I run exe files made for linux?17:35
BluesKajwe need to know the video card model so we can install the proper driver, solifugus17:36
DarthFrogLightning: Just run them.  But remember your current directory is not in your path.17:36
solidturtleBluesKaj: I think i will tell to kde don't save my session and login17:36
BluesKajLightning, right click on the app/ properties /permissions check the executable option17:37
Lightningtty17:37
Lightningty*17:37
solifugusBluesKaj: it doesn't seem to say..  just nVideo Corporation... for product and vendor.. description is VGA compatible controller..  width: 64 bits, clock: 33Mhz..17:37
solifugusstuff like that..17:37
solifugusIt says it's using the nouveau driver.. latency=017:38
LightningI'm getting an error:17:39
Lightningarjun@Firebomb:~/eggdrop$ ././eggdrop-1.6.1917:39
LightningEggdrop v1.6.19+ctcpfix (C) 1997 Robey Pointer (C) 2008 Eggheads17:39
Lightning[22:07] --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.19+ctcpfix (Mon Jun 21 2010)17:39
Lightning[16:37] Tcl error in file 'eggdrop.conf':17:39
FloodBotK3Lightning: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:39
Lightning[16:37] invalid command name "c"17:39
chemaher76hello17:39
BluesKajsolifugus, the nouveau driver is the default with nvidia on live cd , the most likely driver to work with your card is the nvidia-current17:39
solifugusBluesKaj: ok..  any idea how I can get into it, to install that?  maybe chroot from the livecd?17:40
BluesKajDarthFrog, wouldn't chroot in the terminal while on live cd give solifugus access to the installed OS , so he can install the proper graphics driver ?17:42
LightningBluesKaj: Any suggestions?17:43
DarthFrogBluesKaj: Yes.17:44
BluesKajsolifugus, you can chroot I guess , but I'm not familiar with that procedure , DarthFrog , any suggestions ?17:45
solifugusok.. I mounted it and chroot'd in to bash17:45
solifugusand did a source /etc/profile17:45
solifugusok.. need to disconnect so I can give the other computer, the ethernet connection...17:46
BluesKajsolifugus, looks like you're more familiar with chroot than I am17:46
solifugusBluesKaj and DarthFrog: thanks.. I hope I can do it from here.. (I remember chroot from my gentoo days.. and my linux from scratch fun..)17:46
DarthFrogsolifugus: Have fun.17:46
DarthFrogsolifugus: There's instructions on how to chroot from the LiveCD at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub217:47
DarthFrogJust page down to the "Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD" section.17:47
* BluesKaj makes a note to check out chroot-ing17:48
DarthFrogBluesKaj: a chroot environment is very similar to a BSD "jail".17:48
BluesKajok DarthFrog , whatever that is...BSD has never been a friend to my computers ...fails to install due to hardware probs almost everytime17:50
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DarthFrogBluesKaj: I tried the latest BSD release the other week.  First time a BSD install ever failed on me.17:51
DarthFrogKubuntu is a better desktop system than BSD anyway. :-)17:52
BluesKajyeah DarthFrog , i was just bored with lucid so I thought I'd try to install BSD on a ufs partition to which was almost impossible to format, so just made into ntfs and let the bsd live cd looka after formatting ...i couldn't read my HDD ...errored out several times17:57
BluesKajgave up , and made a promise to myself to not listen to the bsd fanatics anymore17:58
DarthFrogNow that's a strange one.  I'd've let FreeBSD make the partition (i.e. "slice") and do all the necessaries itself.  I've not had much luck with OS's working with partitions made by other systems.17:58
BluesKajwell DarthFrog , normally I preformat before an install then i just use the manual partitoning option17:59
DarthFrogBluesKaj: How about we continue this on #kubuntu-offtopic?18:00
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Bobperson0I installed a new sound card, and my old sound card is still listed in System Settings; how would I remove it?18:04
Bobperson0All I have is ALSA18:07
DarthFrogBobperson0: I'm surprised that KDE didn't ask you about removing/forgetting it when you next booted.18:08
Bobperson0DarthFrog: It has troubles with that, it seems. It used to ask me at random times whether I wanted to forget my primary sound card.18:09
DarthFrogBobperson0: You might try System Settings/Audio and Video/Phonon to remove the devices.18:09
Bobperson0DarthFrog: All I have is multimedia, is that right? (I have 10.04)18:11
DarthFrogBobperson0: I'm running the beta of KDE 4.5.  The names will probably be different.18:11
DarthFrogYeah, Multimedia.18:11
Bobperson0DarthFrog: Oh, okay. Well in multimedia it greys out the option to remove ;/18:11
DarthFrogCan you highlight the device?18:11
Bobperson0DarthFrog: Nope18:12
DarthFrogDoes sound work?18:15
Bobperson0Yes; I know it's OCD and.. oh, it just deleted them haha18:15
Bobperson0that's wierd, all i had to do was reload alsa after starting, i guess18:15
Bobperson0Well, thanks for the guidance :)18:15
DarthFrogYou're welcome.  Have fun.18:16
turanhello18:29
crayvenHi, just a short question. I used in january/february the kubuntu netbook edition but this version was very unstable and buggy. Is there a newer version?18:40
BluesKaj!netbook18:41
BluesKaj!netbook-edition18:41
BluesKaj!info netbook-edition18:42
ubottuPackage netbook-edition does not exist in lucid18:42
well_laid_lawn!unr18:43
ubottuUbuntu Netbook Remix is a slightly altered version of Ubuntu, optimised for small screens. For more information, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR - support in #ubuntu18:43
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trupheenixi need help. i want to know how to change my boot up. i want to disable some processes from being started at boot up.19:24
ArGGu^^Is there 64bit netbook image :S19:52
tsimpsonArGGu^^: no, I'm not aware of a 64bit netbook anyway. but you can just install regular Kubuntu and then install the "kubuntu-netbook" package20:06
ArGGu^^tsimpson ok thanks. I just like the interface and was thinking to use it on my htpc.20:11
e_t_How stable are the KDE 4.5 beta packages?20:26
babaluhello, could someone help me install this? http://repo.or.cz/w/libflashsupport-jack.git20:27
tsimpsone_t_: beta quality, so don't expect to be able to use it without things breaking20:27
e_t_tsimpson: I can't upgrade to it without breakage.20:28
tsimpsone_t_: that's to be expected, but you can report issues in #kubuntu-devel20:29
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WassermannHallo22:16
slow-motionhi22:17
bendersteedhi22:17
Wassermannhabe gerade Quassel gestartet22:18
BluesKaj!de | Wassermann22:22
ubottuWassermann: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.22:22
Wassermannalles klar22:23
RachelleNot only am I in the wrong chat, but also the wrong server. >.O22:25
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PhilippBHi There, i has runnning ubuntu 10.04 and installed kubuntu-desktop. after rebooting i choose kde and after login i only get a terminal. no other windows, no panel, nothing. just a terminal and the default kde-background. how can i fix this?22:34
James147PhilippB: Did you get thrown into the fail-safe enviroment?22:40
PhilippBJames147: i dont know, this is the first time i use kde. how can i check if this is the fail-safe env?22:42
PhilippBthe kde-login screen works fine, after the login there is only the default-kde background and one window which contains a terminal.22:43
ivan_helppppppppppppp22:51
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James147!help | ivan_22:53
ubottuivan_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:53
mcsmurfhi, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10 (well, actually Ubuntu 9.10+Kubuntu meta package so far) and now I wanted to add the Kubuntu ppa to get the KDE 4.3.5 update22:59
mcsmurfso I added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main" to a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and ran "apt-get update" and then "apt-get upgrade"23:00
mcsmurfis this the wrong way? it does not display any updates23:00
mcsmurfI already added the gpg key before23:00
geof270 Hello. Is there a way to set 'root' user and 'root group permissions back to defaults in KDE control module, 'User+Group administration'?23:08
geof270that's in Kubuntu 10.04 Lucid23:09
geof270Somehow I've changed 'kdeinit4' permission to 'home' user, me, instaed of 'root'.23:10
James147geof270: there is no way to reset permissions inside system settings, what error message are you getting or what are you trying to do?23:12
geof270using apt-get, at very end, after it processes the file, I get a ...kdeinit4 error, unable to access /var/tmp/...files23:14
James147geof270: can you post the entire message? (pastebin it if its too long)23:15
geof270So I don't know if the app has been totally installed correctly, or if this is just an error deleting leftover files23:15
geof270Let me use apt-get, and try to create one. It will be a few minutes. Thanks23:16
geof270James147-Maybe I fixed myself(in KDE Control Module-Users+Group AdM, as now, I can't recreate, or get an error.23:25
geof270But, in addition to a 'root' kdeinit4, running, does a process run by a user, myself, indicate an error(from processes)?23:26
geof270James147-Here's the error after apt-get completes---23:33
geof270kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so23:33
geof270<unknown program name>(1815)/ KStartupInfo::createNewStartupId: creating:  "local33702;1277159026;51678;1815_TIME0" : "unnamed app"23:33
geof270kbuildsycoca4 running.23:33
FloodBotK3geof270: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.23:33
James147geof270: not sure thats an error :S23:42
geof270OK, and Thanks. I got that from .xsession-errors, and can't recreate the error(?) now.23:44
geof270Bye23:44

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