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BigleonIt is so much fun revolver i started playing with linux my senior year of HS! I love vast universe applications and the utter freeness :P00:00
revolverXD1lucid lynx the netbook and the desktop one00:00
BigleonRevolver i recommend playing with kubuntu :D00:00
zkriesserevolverXD1: cool00:00
* zkriesse uses Ubuntu Lucid with the Kubuntu added on00:00
revolverXD1yeah part of the reason i decided to move to linux is becasu00:00
BigleonI have no love for Gnome interface...00:01
revolverXD1because i really want to learn shell  :)00:01
zkriesseBigleon: lol00:01
BigleonIf i remember right didn't they drop gnome in 10.400:01
revolverXD1oh nope still here00:01
nUboon2AgeBigleon: maybe you're thinking of the point that in 10.10 they're moving to Gnome 3.000:02
BigleonThat might be it nUboon...00:02
BigleonI read my /. daily and possibly just mis remembered the details.00:03
revolverXD1lol this is great from one problem to another :\ my menu editor dosent work00:03
BigleonIsn't there emulation software that i can run a linux distro on my win700:04
revolverXD1but from what i remember when it did work you could practicly throw out all the items you dont want to see and will have only one tab with the stuff you want00:04
BigleonRevolver is it giving you an error or just a hard time?00:04
revolverXD1live cd00:04
zkriesseBigleon: yes00:05
revolverXD1nope just wont start00:05
BigleonI'm not talking live cd... i'm talking like virtual desktop...00:05
revolverXD1ah let me check00:05
revolverXD1temulator00:05
zkriesseBigleon: There is just don't recall00:05
BigleonUhh recolver shouold check the website, it's for sale lol00:06
revolverXD1lol sorry i didnt meant to type it here00:06
revolverXD1its for sale for around 4 months allready :)00:06
revolverXD1and unfortunnaly it has only win emulators00:07
Bigleon*to the VD wiki*00:07
revolverXD1lol00:08
zkriesserevolverXD1: Bigleon looking to join this team maybe?00:08
Bigleonzkrieese I'll consider if i get a full time linux box up.00:08
revolverXD1im too much of a noob to join any team00:09
revolverXD1but im learning00:09
Bigleonalright Virtual Desktop isn't exactly what i want i assume...00:09
BigleonI need something that effectively will run Linux inside of Win7 :P00:10
revolverXD1VMware?00:10
BigleonYES thats word i was looking for00:10
revolverXD1lol00:11
BigleonNow to find opensource VMware...00:11
revolverXD1ouch that a little bit pricy00:11
zkriesserevolverXD1: That's why this is called the "Beginners Team"00:12
zkriesseIt takes the new guys and makes them awesome00:12
zkriesseLike me00:12
Bigleonhere is my plan, i got a nice 32" LCD, with HDMI connector to my 64bit LP so i can multi box wow :D00:13
nUboon2AgeBigleon: VitualBox .  Free and some think actually better than VMWare.00:13
BigleonIf i remember right there is a free multibox software on linux... i know all windows one cost... :(00:13
Bigleonthank you nUboon2age checking it out now.00:14
revolverXD1do i need to do something or uphold some rules ? im kinda almost never on line since im a university student00:14
BigleonWhere do you go revolver?00:14
revolverXD1electricity engineering00:15
Bigleonthats what you are doing yes... :P does ur university have a name lol. although we should probbaly move this conversation to offtopic.00:15
revolverXD1ah it's in israel lol00:16
BigleonAhh I go to uni out in kansas in USA.00:17
nUboon2AgeBigleon: another approach is Wubi.  Doesn't require disk partitioning, but allows you to boot Linux.  Pretty neat.  But if you want to jump back and forth between Wn and Ubuntu, then VirtualBox approach...00:17
BigleonWubi?00:17
revolverXD1the live cd00:18
revolverXD1very nice thing00:18
nUboon2Age!wubi00:18
ubot2Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.00:18
BigleonIs that like kubuntu-windows intergration?00:19
nUboon2Agewubi isn't the liveCD.00:19
nUboon2AgeBigleon: I'm not 100%, but I think I heard Wubi can install kubuntu.  Anyone know?00:20
BigleonOmg i love my gf's i-net, 2Mb/S downstream...00:20
Bigleonmom's 100kb/s00:20
nUboon2AgeBigleon: heck I've got a Vista machine I'd been thinking of wubi-izing so maybe I'll try it out this afternoon.00:21
revolverXD1yeah sorry i got confused for a sec since i used it to force windows to boot the live cd00:21
BigleonWell I'm doing it on Win7 here in about 5 minutes :D00:21
BigleonWell not WUbi, but Virtualbox + kubuntu00:21
nUboon2AgeBigleon: yes you could run Kubuntu (or any distro or OS) in virutalbox on Win00:23
revolverXD1:\ damn on the whole net there is no web based ubuntu emulator00:23
BigleonI may get disconnected during install brb.00:23
nUboon2AgerevolverXD1: interesting idea.  Well, if you just want to see what it looks like there are youtube videos of it.00:24
nUboon2AgerevolverXD1: or Wubi is an extremely simple way to ubuntu as a windoze program.00:24
revolverXD1lol not for me i wanted to check bigleon00:24
BigleonGoogle has a program where you might get bandwidth + website to create something like that.00:24
revolverXD1im allready deep in ubuntu00:25
nUboon2AgerevolverXD1: gothcha00:25
Bigleon_T___T... i got a dash after my name :(00:25
revolverXD1lol00:25
Bigleon_Any hat's able to dump the other one?00:26
zkriesseBigleon: what do you want to do?00:26
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zkriesseBigleon_: I take it that Bigleon is your registered nick?00:27
Bigleon_zkrieese oh my old tag is still in here i wanted to dump it so i can drop the dash.00:27
Bigleon_I haven't registered it yet00:27
Bigleon_Or if i did register it; it was a long time ago.00:27
zkriesseBigleon: ok well then hmm00:27
zkriesseBigleon: is not a registered nick00:28
Bigleon_alright well i'll get that regied in a bit.00:28
zkriesseBigleon_: Yeah you'll have to wait until it does a ping time out00:29
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revolverXDone question if i may00:29
zkriesseBigleon: type /msg nickserv help register00:29
BigleonSooo I take it With Virtualbox i can't run a 64 bit os on it?00:29
zkriesserevolverXD: of course00:29
zkriesseBigleon: don't think so00:29
revolverXDis there anypoint to put firewall on linux distro? since i read the iptablets is a damn strong firewall00:30
BigleonI might try Wubi instead :P00:30
zkriesserevolverXD: there is...you'll have to search for it in the Software Center00:30
zkriesseBigleon: You register your nick yet?00:31
Bigleonalmost00:31
nUboon2AgeBigleon: just for the record, I'm just installing wubi, and it does allow you to pick ubuntu, ubuntu netbook, Kubuntu, kubuntu netbook, xubuntu or Mythbuntu00:32
BigleonI'm reading Wubi Wiki before install00:32
Bigleonand i'm registered :D00:32
nUboon2AgeBigleon: re VirtualBox or Wubi I don't know what the situation is re: 64-bit00:33
Bigleonwell Virtualbox is 16bit which hurts my eyes. Even with 2gigs for ram and 8gigs for hd space.00:34
nUboon2AgeBigleon: oh, the display.  That's adjustable i think.00:34
Bigleonmax is 26bit from what i read on their wiki00:34
nUboon2AgeBigleon: and i take it your display is 64bit?00:35
BigleonYeah :D00:36
BigleonGot nice HD package etc....00:36
BigleonInstalling Wubi right now, I got 2 partions my *stuff* and base install for win700:36
nUboon2AgeBigleon: when you said 64bit I thought you meant cpu rather than graphics.00:36
BigleonBoth actually00:37
Bigleon64bit processor00:37
Bigleonand i got dualcore graphics card00:37
nUboon2AgeBigleon: nice.00:37
revolverXDhardcore :)00:37
BigleonPssh i got it free from Dell after chewing out 3 senior techs for being incompitent :D00:37
revolverXDlol00:37
BigleonI am one of those kids who got my A+ cert before graudating HS>00:38
revolverXDwell guys good night to you and thx for all the help will log on tommrow00:39
nUboon2AgeBigleon: now to explain, Wubi does NOT mess w/ the Win bootloader or mbr or anything like that, but what it does is put a second entry into the Windoze boot loader to give the option of either OS at boot time.00:39
revolverXDoh bigleon gl with wubi00:39
Bigleonintresting Uboon... I'm installing now to try it out..00:40
nUboon2AgerevolverXD: have a good one...00:40
nUboon2AgeBigleon: and it comes w/ a one click uninstaller in case you want to dump it quickly/easily.00:41
Bigleon_how do i log into my nick?00:42
Bigleon_also to your response nUboon i got a 500g HD and can't wait to play with Kubuntu again.00:43
nUboon2AgeBigleon_: I'm using wubi to install kubuntu now since I hadn't really seen kubuntu yet.00:44
zkriesseBigleon_: you mean auto identify?00:44
Bigleon_I love kubuntu00:44
Bigleon_Correct Zkriesse00:44
zkriesseBigleon_: ok what chat program are you using?00:45
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BigleonChatzilla00:45
zkriesseAh00:45
zkriesseAh don't know where it would be settings wise for auto identify but you can type /msg nickserv identify Bigleon password00:46
BigleonAlright Zkriesse... i can figure out the rest...00:46
zkriesse:D00:46
BigleonBad Peerblock, no blocking kubuntu servers00:46
Bigleoni was like 2mb/s internet download time 6 days... O_o and i checked peerblock spammed with download attempts from Kubuntu installer.00:47
Bigleonrebooting BBS00:53
nUboon2AgeBigleon: rebooting into kubuntu (different machine) now.  Also just saw something interesting called CoLinux00:55
nUboon2AgeDoes anyone know if there's a way to see the slideshow shown during installation (without installing again that is) later?01:01
zkriessenUboon2Age: Don't know01:02
BigleonAlright I have a problem... Kubuntu doesn't support my wireless card...01:07
nUboon2Agezkriesse: I found this at least:  http://dylanmccall.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-stuff-for-ubiquity-slideshow.html01:08
BigleonI attempted the Scan procedure etc... anyone got any solutions that don't need me to manually connect?01:08
Bigleonany ideas?01:09
Bigleonotherwise I'll need to dig through my duffle bag and find my eithernet cable >.>01:10
nUboon2AgeBigleon: how did you do the scan? I just found that I could Manage Connections->Add->Scan and there was able to set up.01:11
BigleonThats what I did01:11
BigleonI have an intergrated Wifi card which may be an issue01:11
stlsaintmaybe01:12
BigleonLet me go lookup wifi card maybe there is a reference page of linux support\01:12
stlsaintwhats the specs on the wifi card?01:13
Bigleonit's intergrated Dell Wifi Card01:13
BigleonI'm digging up exact specs (or trying) right now01:13
stlsaintwhats the computer?01:13
BigleonDell Inspcrion I1764 I think... they didn't bother to put the model number on this one01:13
stlsaintnUboon2Age: its not a slideshow01:14
Bigleonbrb...01:14
stlsaintunless your looking for the side info about how great ubuntu is during setup...then thats somewhere in the install device01:14
Bigleonback...01:15
Bigleonanybodyt know on Win7 how to get a read out of the devices and there names...01:15
Bigleonwait nevermind... forgot about device manager01:15
stlsaintBigleon: theres device manager01:15
stlsaintkk01:15
nUboon2Agestlsaint: the url I gave? no, but it has some of the slides.  The url it gives for the whole slideshow gives a 404 error01:15
BigleonWireless network card "Dell wireless 1397 WLAN mini-card"01:17
nUboon2Agestlsaint: ok i just learned that technically its called ubiquity-slideshow-(ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu,mythbuntu)01:18
nUboon2Agestlsaint: zkriesse: at the bottom of this post it answers my original question; how can I see the slideshow again:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/ubuntu-1004-installation-slideshow.html01:19
stlsaintBigleon: this has a few possible solutions...starting with the kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135227001:19
BigleonOOO one of the Guys are using my old laptop which means good news on making sure that is wifi comptable... (that pertains to a much ealier discussion)01:21
Bigleonlooks like i gotta dig out my eithernet cable either way... ugh dell... must it be so complicated.01:22
Bigleonrebooting in linux BBS01:22
bigleonSooo01:30
bigleonCan anyone scroll up to see that link given to me?01:30
seidosbigleon, which link?01:32
bigleonthe one dealing with solution for Dell wireless card01:32
seidos<stlsaint> Bigleon: this has a few possible solutions...starting with the kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135227001:32
bigleonThank you! Much appreciated.01:33
seidosgood luck01:33
bigleonWorse case senario I might have to learn how to write one from scratch...01:34
stlsaintwrite a what?01:34
bigleondriver01:35
stlsaintaye01:35
bigleoni think  that would be a vauble experince none the less. But i'd rather not lol.01:35
bigleonif i don't have too.01:35
bigleonblah... *fail* i was like why won't it work... spelt Kernel Kernal01:38
stlsaintcopy and paste is invaluable01:38
bigleonwhat is a "fakeroot"01:41
bigleonSetting up fakeroot (1.14.4-1ubuntu1) ...01:41
bigleonupdate-alternatives: using /usr/bin/fakeroot-sysv to provide /usr/bin/fakeroot (fakeroot) in auto mode.01:41
stlsaintbigleon: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fakeroot01:42
bigleon>.>01:42
bigleonyou got that permently in yoru Copybox eh?01:43
stlsaintbigleon: no, i googled for it01:43
bigleonIt was a joke to imgtfy...01:43
stlsainti thought i was pretty funny01:44
bigleonBBS got reboot to apply 200+ security updates and wifi stuff01:44
stlsaintDarkNemesis_: hello sara01:45
stlsaintwb bigleon01:46
bigleonWow!! So nUboon2Age Wubi keeps your previous working boot saved sooo01:46
bigleoneven if you mess up an update you have a bottable solution.01:46
bigleonboot*01:47
stlsaintodd choice of word01:47
bigleonodd choice?01:48
stlsaintbottable01:49
bigleonI ment to say Bootable*01:49
bigleonokay here is an issue when I am scrolling down.. and then page kinda splits all werid then letters become unreadble.01:51
holsteinbigleon: in the browser i assume?01:53
bigleonSo here is an issue installed bcmwl-kernel-source but wireless isn't working still...  I'm gonna pop over to kubuntu chat see if they have any solutions01:54
bigleonYeah Holstein... I find that instead of scrolling, page down, it doesn't appear to do that01:54
bigleonI figure my video card isn't really supported on Debian.01:54
holsteinyou got compiz running?01:55
bigleoncompiz?01:55
holsteindesktop effects01:55
holstein!compiz01:55
ubot2Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz01:55
holsteinbigleon: just a trouble shooting step that came to mind01:56
holsteinit can be a drag when your hardware isnt supported01:56
bigleonYeah Well i'm pretty sure i got ATI mobilty HD Card... MY pc is running a quard core, 2 for graphics and 2 for CPU01:58
bigleonHow does one get to "hardware drivers menu"?02:00
bigleonnvm think i found it02:00
stlsaintbigleon: you knew to linux?02:01
stlsaints/knew/new02:01
bigleonI've been playing on and off with it for 5 years02:01
bigleonBeen about 8 months sense i last played with it on  8.1002:01
stlsaints/sense/since02:02
Scruffy113Evenin'02:02
stlsaintScruffy113: sup02:02
bigleonwoo just found ATI has a driver support for debian :D!02:02
* holstein has had decent luck with ATI02:03
Scruffy113Guys, if I install Ubuntu, can I switch back to using my previous without the installation CD?02:05
stlsaintScruffy113: previous what?02:06
Scruffy113operating system02:06
stlsaintScruffy113: what operating system?02:06
stlsaintScruffy113: are you referring to a dual boot?02:06
Scruffy113At the moment I have Windows 7.02:07
Scruffy113I don't know, I'm not that handy with computers.02:07
stlsaintScruffy113: you have two options...either do a wubi install or a dual boot...would you like me to google that for you?02:07
stlsaint:)02:07
Scruffy113Yes , please. :302:08
stlsaintScruffy113: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+wubi02:09
stlsaintScruffy113: http://tinyurl.com/3525bga02:09
Scruffy113x)02:09
holsteinScruffy113: have you been running the live CD?02:10
holsteinyou can run that as much as you want02:10
Scruffy113The one for Ubuntu?02:10
holsteinand revert back to windoze02:10
Scruffy113Sounds pretty cool.02:10
holsteinyou should boot the CD live anyway02:11
holsteinand see how your hardware is supported02:11
stlsaintScruffy113: dont mind me...just having some fun today!02:11
holsteinWUBI is cool though02:11
holsteinstlsaint: hehe02:11
stlsaintScruffy113: as holstein said you can use the livecd and run ubuntu just as you would on an actual install and never have to mess with your windows install02:12
stlsaintScruffy113: with the livecd you can surf the web, listen to music, install programs or whatever you want and once you remove the cd you boot right into windows7 with nothing changed!02:12
Scruffy113..02:12
Scruffy113<302:12
holsteina wubi install can be unsintalled like a windows program too02:12
holsteinpretty easily reversable02:12
holsteinbut, if all you hardware is supported02:13
holsteinand you like ubuntu02:13
holsteingo for the dual boot at some point02:13
Scruffy113Hmm..02:15
Scruffy113So with dualboot, i get to choose an operating system when i turn on my PC02:15
holsteinScruffy113: yup02:16
stlsaintScruffy113: yes02:16
Scruffy113With Wubi I run it like an Ubuntu emulator kind of program?02:16
holsteini wouldnt start there though02:16
holsteinWUBI lets you choose to02:16
holsteinScruffy113: not really02:16
holsteinwubi installs ubuntu onto your windows partition02:16
holsteinand lets you keep it intact02:17
holsteinwith maybe a slight hit in performance02:17
Scruffy113So, what do you guys recommend I start with?02:18
Scruffy113The live-CD?02:18
holsteini would go.. live cd > wubi > dual boot > ubuntu alone02:18
Scruffy113Okay ^^02:18
Scruffy113But then, where would I get one of those CDs?02:19
holsteinyou can download it02:19
holsteinand burn it with whatever program you burn CD's with02:19
holsteinyou'l download an 'image'02:20
Scruffy113An ISO?02:20
holsteina .iso file02:20
Scruffy113Okay.02:20
holsteinand you'll 'copy' that to a blank CD02:20
holsteinhttp://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download02:21
Scruffy113Though then couldn't I just mount it with Daemon Tools, right?02:21
holsteinyou can do lots of things02:21
Scruffy113:302:21
holsteinyou can run it inside virtual box02:21
holsteininside of windows02:21
holsteinyou can make a bootable USB stick02:21
holsteinwith unetbootin02:21
holsteinhttp://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/02:22
Scruffy113Sounds awesome. o:02:22
holsteintheres no rules about what you can and cant do with the .iso's02:22
Scruffy113Well, thanks a lot!02:24
Scruffy113If you would excuse me, I have a new operating system I must try out. :302:25
holstein:)02:25
Scruffy113So long, niggaz.02:25
stlsainthe has potential for being banned...bright future here02:32
pedro3005stlsaint, who?02:32
stlsaint21:25 < Scruffy113> So long, niggaz.02:33
pedro3005They'd ban someone over that?02:34
pedro3005pretty silly, IMO02:34
stlsaintpedro3005: well, not over that single action but repeatedly i would move for a temp ban02:34
stlsaintpedro3005: also im african american and though i dont take offense to ignorance i do when its in a support channel as such02:35
pedro3005stlsaint, I don't believe he was particularly trying to insult anyone.02:35
holsteinprobably just a kid02:35
stlsaintpedro3005: nor do i which is why i say not being banned on a single act...02:35
holsteintrying to be cool02:36
stlsaintnext time i see him i will ask him not to make remarks as such, if they stop then all is well. if not than........02:36
stlsaintholstein: i wouldnt doubt it02:36
bigleon_He did spell it with a Z afterall02:37
bigleon_lol02:37
stlsaintyou guys would be amazed at what ive seen in irc channels!02:38
bigleon_I don't know about that?02:38
pedro3005my name generates insults from time to time, but I just shrug it off02:39
iktyour name generates insults?02:39
stlsaintpedro3005: you mean your not hispanic??02:40
pedro3005"dirty mexican" etc02:40
pedro3005to say the least02:40
pedro3005I'm from Brazil though02:40
ikt:(02:41
pedro3005some people are just ignorant02:41
bigleon_Google Chrome doesn't have a repository entry?02:41
bigleon_i knwo you can get firefox... but i heard Chrome was supported.02:42
iktnot without adding the repo afaik02:43
stlsaintbigleon_: its chromium02:43
holsteinsudo apt-get install chromium-browser02:43
stlsaintoh boy we lost leon again02:43
bigleonOhh fail on my part02:43
bigleonehh i apt got chromium and got a shootem up space game >.> *fail's harder*02:45
holsteinchromium-browser02:45
holstein;)02:45
* holstein did that too the first time02:45
bigleoni bet they get a lot of downloads hehe02:45
bigleonBlah forgot my google pword02:47
bigleonhow can i adjust my webcam brightness I look like casper...02:55
FanshaweEvening, all.03:51
FanshaweAnybody fielding questions?03:52
holsteinwhats up?03:53
geirhaOh, that's a tough one.03:53
geirhaOpposite of down.03:54
FanshaweMy problem's probably simple. 'Sound Preferences' doesn't open for me.03:54
FanshaweI think it might have been since the update.03:55
holsteinyou have sound though?03:55
FanshaweYeah, the sound is fine.03:55
holsteinhmmm03:55
holsteindoes alsamixer work?03:55
FanshaweYeah, it's strange.03:55
holsteini got a VIA netbook03:56
holsteinand when i laungh sound preferences, it crashes my sound03:56
geirhaDo you get any output if you run it from the terminal?  gnome-volume-control03:57
FanshaweI'm using an ASUS Eee 900. Something about netbooks?03:57
holsteinhmmm03:57
holsteinmy eee900 has always worked great03:58
holsteinlet me fire it up and check03:58
FanshaweOh damn. Now I feel silly, geirha. 'gnome-media' is not installed.03:58
geirhaThat may be a reason for it to not show up. :)03:59
FanshaweNo, it's installed and runs now.04:00
FanshaweThanks to you both.04:00
FanshaweJust testing my sound to be sure...04:02
FanshaweYeah, I'm all good. How the hell did that happen, I wonder? Surely it's standard? I must've done something...04:02
geirhaDid it pull in any other packages when you installed it?04:04
FanshaweNo, it seems just that was missing.04:05
FanshaweWell, thank you again. Time to lurk somewhere else.04:11
stlsaintFanshawe: stop by anytime :D04:11
bigleonsigh... Had wifi working when I got off Ubuntu  3 hours ago, and now it's like "what wifi driver" T___T05:48
stlsainthehe05:50
bigleon Then I got stupid idea... "well maybe dell has support drivers for linux " Dell *Uhh linux-wha?"05:51
bigleon"Sir we preinstalled your PC with Windows 7 so you use Win 7 not some junk homebrew, we will not support this." So you is gonna take my lappy away O-o *sigh* one day the world will be linux friendly... Back to trouleshooting table.05:52
bigleonWell before i rage, Driver # 2 attempt needs a reboot... anybody know a nifty terminal shortcut so i don't need to do a full system reboot?05:53
stlsaintbigleon: yea05:54
bigleonYea what saint?05:54
stlsaintbigleon: you running ubuntu?05:54
bigleonKubuntu05:54
bigleonI don't like gnome interface >.>05:55
stlsaintbigleon: does kubuntu run kde?05:55
bigleonYeah05:55
stlsaintbigleon: well in ubuntu the command is: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart...so kde would prolly be /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:55
bigleon*headdesk* No progress :(06:01
bigleonAlright...06:01
bigleonWell back to square one...06:02
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FanshaweHey, had another question for those still live.06:18
bigleonI'm around, i'll try to help.06:18
FanshaweGreat. I wanted to mount partitions automatically on startup.06:19
FanshaweHow do I go about this?06:20
bigleonO-o that is beyond me...06:20
FanshaweNo problem, I'll ask around.06:20
bigleonSorry. Good luck!06:21
stlsaintFanshawe: hey06:21
stlsaintFanshawe: you need to mount them in /etc/fstab06:21
bigleonstlsaint How would i go about uninstalling or "blacklisting drivers" to prevent them from loading... command i got is: "echo "blacklist ssb" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" but even with sudo i get a permisson deined06:22
stlsaintdo you have a video group?06:22
stlsaintrun in terminal : groups06:22
FanshaweThanks very much, stlsaint. Giving it a try.06:22
bigleonVideo groups O-o? what06:23
stlsaintFanshawe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab06:23
stlsaintbigleon: did you run the command in the terminal?06:24
bigleonGroups? Yes I got 8 entries06:24
bigleonbut no "video" entry06:24
stlsaintBodsda: can you get to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file?06:25
stlsaintbigleon: ^^^06:26
stlsaintsorry bodsda06:26
bigleonI was like why you asking hiim <confused> lol One sec06:27
bigleonone sec let me go back to root dir, that could be the issue06:27
stlsaintbigleon: just run: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf06:27
bigleonI'm on kubuntu but one sec let me apget gksu06:28
bigleondone06:29
bigleonattempting command again06:29
bigleonfor KDe it's sudo kate06:29
stlsaintbigleon: kk sudo kate the file06:30
bigleonalright...06:30
bigleonwhat do i do now to black list all b43 and ssb drivers06:30
stlsaintadd the line: blacklist ssb to the file06:31
bigleonAlright06:31
stlsaintthen you must remove it from the kernel06:32
bigleonHow?06:32
stlsaintmodprobe -r ssb06:32
bigleonmodule is still in use06:32
stlsaintbigleon: are you sure you blacklisted it correctly?06:34
bigleonblack listed then saved it06:35
bigleondoesn't it only prevent from loading06:35
bigleonif module is already loaded i doubt it would turn it off06:35
stlsaintyea i was gonna suggest a reboot but then you need to install the new driver06:37
stlsaintbigleon: better yet install the new driver then reboot06:37
stlsaintbigleon: but before reboot run that modprobe command again06:37
bigleonstill in use06:37
bigleonattempting reboot06:37
stlsaintbigleon: install the new driver first06:38
bigleonalright06:38
bigleonrebooting06:39
bigleonoh boy it appears now my computer doesn't reconize if i have a wireless card *cry*06:42
bigleon*loads hardware drivers* maybe it just didn't load06:42
bigleonworse case senario i nuke this install and start with a freshkubuntu and hopefully a working wifi driver06:43
bigleonenabled driver (wireless buttons hows up now to be enabled) but it's grayed out06:44
bigleonwhats kde verison for the "do" command i got a syntax error06:49
bigleonError: "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'"  Command they wanted me to do "# sh: for i in `find /lib /var -name wl\.ko`; do mv $i ${i}.orig; done"06:49
stlsaintnight folks06:56
geirhafind /lib /var -name wl.ko -exec sh -c 'mv "$1" "$1.orig"' _ {} \;07:05
geirhaThat's a proper way to do it.  for i in `find blah` is bad07:06
geirhafind /lib /var -name wl.ko -exec sh -c 'mv -v "$1" "$1.orig"' _ {} \;07:07
geirhato make it verbose07:07
geirhaEven though that code was bad, I don't see why you'd get that error.07:10
Puck`good morning07:13
bigleonI think you just  made my day geirha..07:18
bigleonmaybe07:18
bigleontrying out your suggestion07:18
bigleonThanks it worked07:19
bigleonnow let me reboot and hope wireless driver is up and going07:19
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JTFireflyi've got a problem with audio on a laptop using 10.04. i've got external speakers attached, but the sound's always coming from both the internal and external speakers. how do i activate the internal speakers? or, better yet, is there a way to configure ubuntu so that the internal speakers will automatically be muted if external speakers are plugged in?12:10
KaanSKHi there.i need help with partitioning.who can help?12:51
KaanSK?12:52
duanedesignhello KaanSK12:53
duanedesignwhat about partitioning do you need help with?12:53
KaanSKi have a 120 gb harddisk and partitions that i had created are; 30gb windows area,25gb for linux,60gb archieve and 2 gb swap area12:55
KaanSKthe problem is12:55
KaanSKi reinstalled windows and formatted the windows partition12:55
KaanSKthen i began to install ubuntu12:56
KaanSKbut it seems ubuntu doesnt recognise any partitions12:56
KaanSKmoreover i cant get my old ext4 systems recognized by windws12:56
KaanSKnow i can just use my archieve and windows partitions12:57
duanedesign when you reinstalled windows you probably installed over GRUB12:57
KaanSKyeah i knew it and i wanted to reinstall the linux after windows to reconfigure it12:57
KaanSKbut ubuntu setup wont see any partitions12:58
KaanSKjust the whole harddisk12:58
duanedesignKaanSK: hmmm.12:58
KaanSKwhat should i do to get ubuntu setup tool recognize my partitions that i created for linux?12:59
KaanSKhow to mount?12:59
duanedesignKaanSK:  is this Windows7?13:02
revolverXDi think something like that happend to me when i installed ubuntu13:02
KaanSKwinXP13:02
revolverXDthe partition was not in fat 3213:02
KaanSKall my partitions are ntfs13:03
KaanSKand the problem started after formatting with winxp cd13:03
revolverXDwhat i did to solve the problem was to partition and format a whole chunk of my hd to fat 32 and solved the problem but im not sure it will work in your case :\13:05
KaanSKso,i have a 25 gb ext4 area(already installed ubuntu) but ubuntu setup wont recognise neither that nor other partitions.13:05
KaanSKjust the whole 120gb area13:06
duanedesignKaanSK: I would try reinstalling GRUB. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows13:07
duanedesignKaanSK: are you using a LiveCD to install Ubuntu?13:08
KaanSKi have a install ubuntu.and one other problem is i cant use "try ubuntu"option integrated to it.it just halts after initializing13:09
KaanSKi can give grub a try but actually it doesnt see my partitions and for thet wouldnt it be useless?13:10
KaanSKI've used testdisk and I'm rebooting my system to find out whether it worked13:17
KaanSKthanks for comments13:17
FanshaweHey all. Back with another question.13:22
FanshaweHaving trouble connecting to my Hotmail account via Evolution.13:27
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FanshaweAlright, might as well say. I'm getting the error "please log in with USER first" whenever trying to access my Hotmail account through Evolution. What does this mean, and why doesn't it accept my password?13:32
revolverXDcan some one tell me the equivalent command in linux to :tracert,netstat.netsh,ftp,netstat ?13:42
revolverXDor at least point me to a site that translate windows command line commands to linux one's?13:45
duanedesignFanshawe: not sure if these are current instructions but it might give you asn idea of what is going on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingHotmailWithEvolution13:58
FanshaweThanks. I'll take a look,13:59
duanedesignrevolverXD: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html13:59
duanedesignrevolverXD: here is a smaller list. http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/getting-started-guide/ch-doslinux.html14:00
revolverXDah thx m8 L)14:03
revolverXD:)14:03
Fanshawe Thanks duanedesign. I missed the encryption (so many guides have stated not to use any).14:07
FanshaweIt's now working.14:07
duanedesignFanshawe: did you find that guide included everything? Or does it need updating?14:10
duanedesignjust curious. Try and keep the wiki as updated as possible :)14:11
FanshaweIt's hard to tell, I'm afraid. I've taken bits and pieces from so  many guides. But the settings in that guide are working.14:12
duanedesignFanshawe: ha ha, yeah that happens. Glad it is working nonetheless14:16
zkriessehello Galen14:26
Galenzkriese: hello14:28
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ronaldo_hello17:06
ronaldo_hello suprengr17:11
suprengrronaldo_:  hiya.. just lookin in...17:12
collinpHey suprengr.17:12
suprengrChanServ: hi to all17:13
mohi1suprengr, ChanServ will not respond to you :P17:14
suprengrreally... neva woulda known that ;) [i was tabbing thru names but got wrong one]17:15
suprengrmohi1: ...& hi17:15
mohi1=] suprengr sup?17:16
suprengrmohi1:  que???17:16
mohi1whats up suprengr? :)17:17
suprengrmohi1:  oh... nowt.. just watchin a few channels.... unless anyone here's got info on firrefox / ooo system font settings of course?17:19
mohi1suprengr, font setting for your OSX or for firefox?17:19
hobgoblinwhat's up with the fonts suprengr17:19
suprengrmohi1:  soz, firefox / openoffice.org17:20
mohi1Yay hobgoblin =] I ll brb. Help him ;)17:20
hobgoblinmohi1: you only come back when the help is finished :)17:21
mohi1lol I was with a person having trouble in installing package in -team :D17:21
hobgoblinmohi1: as I do not go there I can believe or disbelieve that statement lol17:22
hobgoblinsuprengr: so what's up with the fonts?17:22
suprengrmohi1: I use a few [5] KDE apps in Ubuntu and have done so without probs through 3 versions now... this this i actually tried ONE KDE  session and now I@m stuck with firfox and open office using KDE font for their sys default and revert ;(17:22
hobgoblinsuprengr: I am getting similar issues here actually - vbox is using a qt mouse cursor it seems - I've not got to the bottom of it yet17:25
suprengrmohi1:  [i'll spell that all less quickly]  I use a few [5] KDE apps in Ubuntu and have done so without probs through 3 versions now... this time i actually tried ONE KDE desktop session and now I am stuck with firefox and open office using KDE font for their sys default and can't revert ;(17:25
mohi1hobgoblin, see PM and you ll believe me ;)17:25
suprengrhobgoblin: my sympathies.. i know how it feels17:26
hobgoblinmohi1: never take me seriously :) or not often anyway - you'll know when too :)17:26
mohi1hobgoblin, i know you was kidding :P17:26
Silver_Fox_Was he...17:26
Silver_Fox_Mwahahaha17:26
mohi1suprengr, had you tried the mouse scroll??17:26
hobgoblinsuprengr: I also had the same with amarok - as it stands I'm not going to be much help as I just put up with it now as I have nothing else like it17:27
* mohi1 stares at Silver_Fox_ 17:27
* Silver_Fox_ can stare all day17:27
mohi1awww Silver_Fox_ go to work :P17:27
suprengrmohi1:  why the mouse scroll?17:27
* hobgoblin pokes mohi1 in the eye with a sharp tree 17:27
mohi1Ouch that hurts17:27
suprengrmohi1: [just tried mouse scroll -s'all ok] ta17:29
mohi1suprengr, the font size of the letters you type is the one you are talking about?17:29
mohi1Silver_Fox_, hobgoblin any of you saw the compiz bug?17:29
hobgoblinmohi1: it seems that kde apps don't take the gnome fonts now when installed in gnome - nor mouse cursor17:30
hobgoblinmohi1: I don't use it so would not notice17:30
suprengrmohi1:  the menus, the general appearance and, in firefox the default font for display!  In oo it's the menus and appearance ... doc fonts all ok.17:30
Silver_Fox_compiz is overated and causes more issues than installation is worth17:30
Silver_Fox_CLI is where it is at17:30
hobgoblinpfft - only when you used to have to install beryl17:31
mohi1ahha17:32
Silver_Fox_Beryl was EPIC17:32
* Silver_Fox_ loved her17:32
Silver_Fox_Then she got dumped :'(17:32
suprengrmohi1:  for info: i have actually removed ALL traces of KDE from /home & /usr/share AND run sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5-data followed by re-start. All tna [to no affect]17:33
* mohi1 alters Beryl and gives her to Silver_Fox_ ;)17:33
mohi1suprengr, i got no ideat other than what you had already done. lemme surf a bit17:34
suprengrmohi1: [hope Berylb enjoyed it ;D]17:34
revolverXDhi guys by any chance anyone was able to install the latest itunes on ubuntu?17:44
holsteinis that for syncing revolverXD ?17:45
revolverXDnah for updating the iphone for syncing i use rhytembox17:45
revolverXDi read i was possible to install itunes 7 using wine i just wanted to know if the same procuder works for the lates itunes too17:47
mohi1revolverXD, Rythmbox is not enough for ya??17:47
revolverXDit*17:47
revolverXDlol the problem with rythembox is that i cant update the firmware of the phone with it17:48
revolverXDand we dont have itunes on the phone working here :\17:48
holsteinim not sure if itunes in WINE can handle the firmware updated17:48
holsteinupdate*17:49
suprengrmohi1: you still there?17:49
holsteini always check http://www.winehq.org/17:49
holsteinor i just try it17:49
revolverXDoh well guess i will just install a VMware and see if that works17:49
revolverXDyeah i tried it and it kept on crushing17:50
mohi1suprengr, still now fount nothing other than what you have already done :(17:50
mohi1found*17:50
holsteinrevolverXD: if you can get USB support to the guest17:50
holsteinthats the way to go i think17:50
suprengrmohi1:  it's just a thought, but.... what would be the effect of: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop17:51
mohi1suprengr, you are in gnome right?17:51
revolverXDi will try that the, thx17:52
revolverXDthen*17:52
mohi1suprengr, what you said is nothing but installing GNOME to your machine17:52
suprengrmohi1: are there any other useable distros???? ;D   YES... tried KDE once, that was enough ;d17:52
mohi1suprengr, what you mean by "usable Distros"? explain it please17:53
suprengrmohi1:  yup.... including Gnome system fonts for apps perhaps????17:53
mohi1suprengr, you are in lucid right!!17:54
suprengrmohi1: Definitely in Lucid. re distros... I need / use Ubuntu for specific reasons... tried others [via live CD's]... none met what I [personal opinion only] wanted.  Have stayed with Ubuntu thru 3 versions.  I occasionally give help for XFCE and run classes for the dreaded Ms Windows..  Does tyhat help explain?17:56
mohi1suprengr, what personnaly you want a distro to be?? design it by yourself coz you have the power to do that ;)17:58
suprengrmohi1: [wen u support windows you dont want it at home - helps keep sanity that way [which is hard enough when you're from another planet in the first place ;)17:58
mohi1ahhh17:59
hobgoblinsuprengr: try having a look at this - specifically #7 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120659818:00
suprengrhobgoblin: will do...18:01
mohi1now i can see where hobgoblin went18:01
hobgoblinsuprengr: I've not bothered to see if it works myself as it is only vbox here causing the issue - but if it does let me know :)18:02
hobgoblinmohi1: that's a fail - I only just now went to look properly - 3rd or 4th hit :)18:02
mohi1eh18:03
* mohi1 failed in guessing :(18:03
hobgoblinmohi1 did - I've been doing what andy williams sung about18:05
mohi1:o18:06
akkan84i have a problem with kernel 2.33.4 on ssd harddrive...everything go back on cold boot18:18
bigleonafternoon everyone. Hey Zkriesse :D18:23
suprengrmohi1: hobgoblin:  just done it - soz for the delay - it has helped a bit - given a couple of the KDE apps in use more of a Lucid look.  Re Firefox and Open Office -menus not changed... but at the end of the day it's only an annoyance, not a show stopper.18:24
hobgoblinsuprengr: I never had an issue with ff or oo18:25
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suprengryeh... lucky you... but as mentioned, it's an annoyance not a show stopper - nice to a bit more control of the KDE apps needed though.  c Thanks for that.18:27
hobgoblinsuprengr: have you been into the oo options at all?18:27
suprengrhobgoblin:  yeh... and firefox about:config - the settings shown match those of an unchanged system [I also have a netbook running UNE and have compared]18:28
hobgoblinsuprengr: ok - sorry then - not going to be any help I think18:31
suprengrhobgoblin: hey... you WERE a help [got more control of required KDE apps in use] - The rest... there's plenty with worse probs than that!18:33
hobgoblinoh yea  - forgot that bit lol18:34
suprengrhobgoblin: c u later - thanks.18:34
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zkriessehello Kuser25 how are you today?19:40
zkriesseok....he's out19:40
bigleonHey folks I need somehelp networking... I've been working on this 2 days strait. I have a Dell Wireless 1397(Broadcom 4312) ... I ran "Rfkill" and i got "1:phy1: wireless LAN software blocked: yes" I've gotten wireless to work twice but it locks up system after areboot (i'm on my 3rd reinstall started with kubuntu, and ecided to go with ubuntu hoping it was more stable.) Other points of intrest i'm using a Wubi install.20:13
revolverXDhello guys has anyone ever updated his/her iphone using VM virtualbox ? cause i tried and now my iphone is bricked :\22:17
pleia2revolverXD: yikes, I don't have any experience with it, but when did the bricking happen? After the update? during? after a reboot?22:19
Silver_Fox_IOS4 update was it ?22:20
Silver_Fox_And hey pleia2  =]22:20
pleia2hey Silver_Fox_ :)22:20
revolverXDduring the update the phone was runing and all was ok and then it finished the download and it lost its connection to the VM :\22:20
Silver_Fox_Does itunes recognise it when plugged in ?22:21
revolverXDand yeah the IOS4 update damn apple making my lfie hard22:21
Silver_Fox_Just thinking you could restore to factory settings.  I bet that would wipe all the data though,  so not ideal22:21
Silver_Fox_So WAIT  a minute before even considering that22:22
revolverXDi have to somehow enable the usb allways in the VM but i dont have an idea how to do it22:22
revolverXDoh i read somewhere that i need to make the iphone availbale for some group named Vboxuser or something along the line22:23
revolverXDis ther22:24
revolverXDis there any manual way to force VM to recognize usb?22:25
revolverXDdamn i will be forced to install windows 7 again the way it is going and deal with all the horror of recovering grub afterwards22:31
revolverXDcan anyone help me to join a group named vboxusers and lp plz? it probably my last chance to recover the phone22:36
kermiacrevolverXD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB should help you22:39
revolverXDthx m8 :)22:40
kermiacnp :)22:41
revolverXD1and its alive :)22:47
revolverXD1and restoring :)22:47
Silver_Fox_:)22:48
revolverXD1once again i escaped the talons of windows on my pc :)22:48
revolverXD1hm its like the iphone is changing usb identity all the time and the recovery process is broken23:00
revolverXD1im sorry for nagging guys but can someone explain to me what i need to do according to this site:http://www.rjsteinert.com/node/6 ?23:01
revolverXD1http://www.rjsteinert.com/node/623:01
bodhi_zazenrevolverXD1: the OP on the wiki got a new phone23:04
ddecatorheh23:05
bodhi_zazenmac is not very Linux friendly I am afraid23:05
bodhi_zazenThe good news is you can often find comparable hardware for half the cost23:05
revolverXD1damn ... makes me wana bang my head in the keyboard :\23:06
revolverXD1you think the closed source VM will solve that?23:06
bodhi_zazenProbably not, VM do  not directly use hardware, so if the host OS does not recognize the device , the VM is unlikely to either23:07
bodhi_zazenyou can try revolverXD1 , you have nothing to loose23:09
revolverXD1the host does recognize :) the problem is that the phone changes it's id in the middle of the upgrade process and i dont have an idea how to make a static id for it23:09
revolverXD1guess i need to change its name to Ibricked :\23:12
revolverXD1a little stupid question i gave the lsusb command and gave the output23:22
revolverXD1Bus 002 Device 013: ID 05ac:1281 Apple, Inc23:22
revolverXD1is 1281 is the iphone port?23:22
revolverXD1ok i made that work now i need to make a post about it somewhere to save other ppl the misery :\23:29
SimonP86hello, I wish to view a PS document from the terminal23:30
SimonP86please could someone tell me which application I can use to do so?23:30
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bodhi_zazenSimonP86: PS document ?23:59
bodhi_zazenDid you try nano or vim ?23:59

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