[00:00] It is so much fun revolver i started playing with linux my senior year of HS! I love vast universe applications and the utter freeness :P [00:00] lucid lynx the netbook and the desktop one [00:00] Revolver i recommend playing with kubuntu :D [00:00] revolverXD1: cool [00:00] * zkriesse uses Ubuntu Lucid with the Kubuntu added on [00:00] yeah part of the reason i decided to move to linux is becasu [00:01] I have no love for Gnome interface... [00:01] because i really want to learn shell :) [00:01] Bigleon: lol [00:01] If i remember right didn't they drop gnome in 10.4 [00:01] oh nope still here [00:02] Bigleon: maybe you're thinking of the point that in 10.10 they're moving to Gnome 3.0 [00:02] That might be it nUboon... [00:03] I read my /. daily and possibly just mis remembered the details. [00:03] lol this is great from one problem to another :\ my menu editor dosent work [00:04] Isn't there emulation software that i can run a linux distro on my win7 [00:04] but from what i remember when it did work you could practicly throw out all the items you dont want to see and will have only one tab with the stuff you want [00:04] Revolver is it giving you an error or just a hard time? [00:04] live cd [00:05] Bigleon: yes [00:05] nope just wont start [00:05] I'm not talking live cd... i'm talking like virtual desktop... [00:05] ah let me check [00:05] temulator [00:05] Bigleon: There is just don't recall [00:06] Uhh recolver shouold check the website, it's for sale lol [00:06] lol sorry i didnt meant to type it here [00:06] its for sale for around 4 months allready :) [00:07] and unfortunnaly it has only win emulators [00:07] *to the VD wiki* [00:08] lol [00:08] revolverXD1: Bigleon looking to join this team maybe? [00:08] zkrieese I'll consider if i get a full time linux box up. [00:09] im too much of a noob to join any team [00:09] but im learning [00:09] alright Virtual Desktop isn't exactly what i want i assume... [00:10] I need something that effectively will run Linux inside of Win7 :P [00:10] VMware? [00:10] YES thats word i was looking for [00:11] lol [00:11] Now to find opensource VMware... [00:11] ouch that a little bit pricy [00:12] revolverXD1: That's why this is called the "Beginners Team" [00:12] It takes the new guys and makes them awesome [00:12] Like me [00:13] here is my plan, i got a nice 32" LCD, with HDMI connector to my 64bit LP so i can multi box wow :D [00:13] Bigleon: VitualBox . Free and some think actually better than VMWare. [00:13] If i remember right there is a free multibox software on linux... i know all windows one cost... :( [00:14] thank you nUboon2age checking it out now. [00:14] do i need to do something or uphold some rules ? im kinda almost never on line since im a university student [00:14] Where do you go revolver? [00:15] electricity engineering [00:15] thats what you are doing yes... :P does ur university have a name lol. although we should probbaly move this conversation to offtopic. [00:16] ah it's in israel lol [00:17] Ahh I go to uni out in kansas in USA. [00:17] Bigleon: another approach is Wubi. Doesn't require disk partitioning, but allows you to boot Linux. Pretty neat. But if you want to jump back and forth between Wn and Ubuntu, then VirtualBox approach... [00:17] Wubi? [00:18] the live cd [00:18] very nice thing [00:18] !wubi [00:18] Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. [00:19] Is that like kubuntu-windows intergration? [00:19] wubi isn't the liveCD. [00:20] Bigleon: I'm not 100%, but I think I heard Wubi can install kubuntu. Anyone know? [00:20] Omg i love my gf's i-net, 2Mb/S downstream... [00:20] mom's 100kb/s [00:21] Bigleon: heck I've got a Vista machine I'd been thinking of wubi-izing so maybe I'll try it out this afternoon. [00:21] yeah sorry i got confused for a sec since i used it to force windows to boot the live cd [00:21] Well I'm doing it on Win7 here in about 5 minutes :D [00:21] Well not WUbi, but Virtualbox + kubuntu [00:23] Bigleon: yes you could run Kubuntu (or any distro or OS) in virutalbox on Win [00:23] :\ damn on the whole net there is no web based ubuntu emulator [00:23] I may get disconnected during install brb. [00:24] revolverXD1: interesting idea. Well, if you just want to see what it looks like there are youtube videos of it. [00:24] revolverXD1: or Wubi is an extremely simple way to ubuntu as a windoze program. [00:24] lol not for me i wanted to check bigleon [00:24] Google has a program where you might get bandwidth + website to create something like that. [00:25] im allready deep in ubuntu [00:25] revolverXD1: gothcha [00:25] T___T... i got a dash after my name :( [00:25] lol [00:26] Any hat's able to dump the other one? [00:26] Bigleon: what do you want to do? === revolverXD1 is now known as revolverXD [00:27] Bigleon_: I take it that Bigleon is your registered nick? [00:27] zkrieese oh my old tag is still in here i wanted to dump it so i can drop the dash. [00:27] I haven't registered it yet [00:27] Or if i did register it; it was a long time ago. [00:27] Bigleon: ok well then hmm [00:28] Bigleon: is not a registered nick [00:28] alright well i'll get that regied in a bit. [00:29] Bigleon_: Yeah you'll have to wait until it does a ping time out === Bigleon_ is now known as Bigleon [00:29] one question if i may [00:29] Bigleon: type /msg nickserv help register [00:29] Sooo I take it With Virtualbox i can't run a 64 bit os on it? [00:29] revolverXD: of course [00:29] Bigleon: don't think so [00:30] is there anypoint to put firewall on linux distro? since i read the iptablets is a damn strong firewall [00:30] I might try Wubi instead :P [00:30] revolverXD: there is...you'll have to search for it in the Software Center [00:31] Bigleon: You register your nick yet? [00:31] almost [00:32] Bigleon: just for the record, I'm just installing wubi, and it does allow you to pick ubuntu, ubuntu netbook, Kubuntu, kubuntu netbook, xubuntu or Mythbuntu [00:32] I'm reading Wubi Wiki before install [00:32] and i'm registered :D [00:33] Bigleon: re VirtualBox or Wubi I don't know what the situation is re: 64-bit [00:34] well Virtualbox is 16bit which hurts my eyes. Even with 2gigs for ram and 8gigs for hd space. [00:34] Bigleon: oh, the display. That's adjustable i think. [00:34] max is 26bit from what i read on their wiki [00:35] Bigleon: and i take it your display is 64bit? [00:36] Yeah :D [00:36] Got nice HD package etc.... [00:36] Installing Wubi right now, I got 2 partions my *stuff* and base install for win7 [00:36] Bigleon: when you said 64bit I thought you meant cpu rather than graphics. [00:37] Both actually [00:37] 64bit processor [00:37] and i got dualcore graphics card [00:37] Bigleon: nice. [00:37] hardcore :) [00:37] Pssh i got it free from Dell after chewing out 3 senior techs for being incompitent :D [00:37] lol [00:38] I am one of those kids who got my A+ cert before graudating HS> [00:39] well guys good night to you and thx for all the help will log on tommrow [00:39] Bigleon: now to explain, Wubi does NOT mess w/ the Win bootloader or mbr or anything like that, but what it does is put a second entry into the Windoze boot loader to give the option of either OS at boot time. [00:39] oh bigleon gl with wubi [00:40] intresting Uboon... I'm installing now to try it out.. [00:40] revolverXD: have a good one... [00:41] Bigleon: and it comes w/ a one click uninstaller in case you want to dump it quickly/easily. [00:42] how do i log into my nick? [00:43] also to your response nUboon i got a 500g HD and can't wait to play with Kubuntu again. [00:44] Bigleon_: I'm using wubi to install kubuntu now since I hadn't really seen kubuntu yet. [00:44] Bigleon_: you mean auto identify? [00:44] I love kubuntu [00:44] Correct Zkriesse [00:45] Bigleon_: ok what chat program are you using? === Bigleon_ is now known as Bigleon [00:45] Chatzilla [00:45] Ah [00:46] Ah don't know where it would be settings wise for auto identify but you can type /msg nickserv identify Bigleon password [00:46] Alright Zkriesse... i can figure out the rest... [00:46] :D [00:46] Bad Peerblock, no blocking kubuntu servers [00:47] i was like 2mb/s internet download time 6 days... O_o and i checked peerblock spammed with download attempts from Kubuntu installer. [00:53] rebooting BBS [00:55] Bigleon: rebooting into kubuntu (different machine) now. Also just saw something interesting called CoLinux [01:01] Does anyone know if there's a way to see the slideshow shown during installation (without installing again that is) later? [01:02] nUboon2Age: Don't know [01:07] Alright I have a problem... Kubuntu doesn't support my wireless card... [01:08] zkriesse: I found this at least: http://dylanmccall.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-stuff-for-ubiquity-slideshow.html [01:08] I attempted the Scan procedure etc... anyone got any solutions that don't need me to manually connect? [01:09] any ideas? [01:10] otherwise I'll need to dig through my duffle bag and find my eithernet cable >.> [01:11] Bigleon: how did you do the scan? I just found that I could Manage Connections->Add->Scan and there was able to set up. [01:11] Thats what I did [01:11] I have an intergrated Wifi card which may be an issue [01:12] maybe [01:12] Let me go lookup wifi card maybe there is a reference page of linux support\ [01:13] whats the specs on the wifi card? [01:13] it's intergrated Dell Wifi Card [01:13] I'm digging up exact specs (or trying) right now [01:13] whats the computer? [01:13] Dell Inspcrion I1764 I think... they didn't bother to put the model number on this one [01:14] nUboon2Age: its not a slideshow [01:14] brb... [01:14] unless your looking for the side info about how great ubuntu is during setup...then thats somewhere in the install device [01:15] back... [01:15] anybodyt know on Win7 how to get a read out of the devices and there names... [01:15] wait nevermind... forgot about device manager [01:15] Bigleon: theres device manager [01:15] kk [01:15] stlsaint: the url I gave? no, but it has some of the slides. The url it gives for the whole slideshow gives a 404 error [01:17] Wireless network card "Dell wireless 1397 WLAN mini-card" [01:18] stlsaint: ok i just learned that technically its called ubiquity-slideshow-(ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu,mythbuntu) [01:19] stlsaint: zkriesse: at the bottom of this post it answers my original question; how can I see the slideshow again: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/ubuntu-1004-installation-slideshow.html [01:19] Bigleon: this has a few possible solutions...starting with the kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1352270 [01:21] OOO one of the Guys are using my old laptop which means good news on making sure that is wifi comptable... (that pertains to a much ealier discussion) [01:22] looks like i gotta dig out my eithernet cable either way... ugh dell... must it be so complicated. [01:22] rebooting in linux BBS [01:30] Sooo [01:30] Can anyone scroll up to see that link given to me? [01:32] bigleon, which link? [01:32] the one dealing with solution for Dell wireless card [01:32] Bigleon: this has a few possible solutions...starting with the kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1352270 [01:33] Thank you! Much appreciated. [01:33] good luck [01:34] Worse case senario I might have to learn how to write one from scratch... [01:34] write a what? [01:35] driver [01:35] aye [01:35] i think that would be a vauble experince none the less. But i'd rather not lol. [01:35] if i don't have too. [01:38] blah... *fail* i was like why won't it work... spelt Kernel Kernal [01:38] copy and paste is invaluable [01:41] what is a "fakeroot" [01:41] Setting up fakeroot (1.14.4-1ubuntu1) ... [01:41] update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/fakeroot-sysv to provide /usr/bin/fakeroot (fakeroot) in auto mode. [01:42] bigleon: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fakeroot [01:42] >.> [01:43] you got that permently in yoru Copybox eh? [01:43] bigleon: no, i googled for it [01:43] It was a joke to imgtfy... [01:44] i thought i was pretty funny [01:44] BBS got reboot to apply 200+ security updates and wifi stuff [01:45] DarkNemesis_: hello sara [01:46] wb bigleon [01:46] Wow!! So nUboon2Age Wubi keeps your previous working boot saved sooo [01:46] even if you mess up an update you have a bottable solution. [01:47] boot* [01:47] odd choice of word [01:48] odd choice? [01:49] bottable [01:49] I ment to say Bootable* [01:51] okay here is an issue when I am scrolling down.. and then page kinda splits all werid then letters become unreadble. [01:53] bigleon: in the browser i assume? [01:54] So here is an issue installed bcmwl-kernel-source but wireless isn't working still... I'm gonna pop over to kubuntu chat see if they have any solutions [01:54] Yeah Holstein... I find that instead of scrolling, page down, it doesn't appear to do that [01:54] I figure my video card isn't really supported on Debian. [01:55] you got compiz running? [01:55] compiz? [01:55] desktop effects [01:55] !compiz [01:55] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [01:56] bigleon: just a trouble shooting step that came to mind [01:56] it can be a drag when your hardware isnt supported [01:58] Yeah Well i'm pretty sure i got ATI mobilty HD Card... MY pc is running a quard core, 2 for graphics and 2 for CPU [02:00] How does one get to "hardware drivers menu"? [02:00] nvm think i found it [02:01] bigleon: you knew to linux? [02:01] s/knew/new [02:01] I've been playing on and off with it for 5 years [02:01] Been about 8 months sense i last played with it on 8.10 [02:02] s/sense/since [02:02] Evenin' [02:02] Scruffy113: sup [02:02] woo just found ATI has a driver support for debian :D! [02:03] * holstein has had decent luck with ATI [02:05] Guys, if I install Ubuntu, can I switch back to using my previous without the installation CD? [02:06] Scruffy113: previous what? [02:06] operating system [02:06] Scruffy113: what operating system? [02:06] Scruffy113: are you referring to a dual boot? [02:07] At the moment I have Windows 7. [02:07] I don't know, I'm not that handy with computers. [02:07] Scruffy113: you have two options...either do a wubi install or a dual boot...would you like me to google that for you? [02:07] :) [02:08] Yes , please. :3 [02:09] Scruffy113: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+wubi [02:09] Scruffy113: http://tinyurl.com/3525bga [02:09] x) [02:10] Scruffy113: have you been running the live CD? [02:10] you can run that as much as you want [02:10] The one for Ubuntu? [02:10] and revert back to windoze [02:10] Sounds pretty cool. [02:11] you should boot the CD live anyway [02:11] and see how your hardware is supported [02:11] Scruffy113: dont mind me...just having some fun today! [02:11] WUBI is cool though [02:11] stlsaint: hehe [02:12] Scruffy113: as holstein said you can use the livecd and run ubuntu just as you would on an actual install and never have to mess with your windows install [02:12] Scruffy113: with the livecd you can surf the web, listen to music, install programs or whatever you want and once you remove the cd you boot right into windows7 with nothing changed! [02:12] .. [02:12] <3 [02:12] a wubi install can be unsintalled like a windows program too [02:12] pretty easily reversable [02:13] but, if all you hardware is supported [02:13] and you like ubuntu [02:13] go for the dual boot at some point [02:15] Hmm.. [02:15] So with dualboot, i get to choose an operating system when i turn on my PC [02:16] Scruffy113: yup [02:16] Scruffy113: yes [02:16] With Wubi I run it like an Ubuntu emulator kind of program? [02:16] i wouldnt start there though [02:16] WUBI lets you choose to [02:16] Scruffy113: not really [02:16] wubi installs ubuntu onto your windows partition [02:17] and lets you keep it intact [02:17] with maybe a slight hit in performance [02:18] So, what do you guys recommend I start with? [02:18] The live-CD? [02:18] i would go.. live cd > wubi > dual boot > ubuntu alone [02:18] Okay ^^ [02:19] But then, where would I get one of those CDs? [02:19] you can download it [02:19] and burn it with whatever program you burn CD's with [02:20] you'l download an 'image' [02:20] An ISO? [02:20] a .iso file [02:20] Okay. [02:20] and you'll 'copy' that to a blank CD [02:21] http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download [02:21] Though then couldn't I just mount it with Daemon Tools, right? [02:21] you can do lots of things [02:21] :3 [02:21] you can run it inside virtual box [02:21] inside of windows [02:21] you can make a bootable USB stick [02:21] with unetbootin [02:22] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [02:22] Sounds awesome. o: [02:22] theres no rules about what you can and cant do with the .iso's [02:24] Well, thanks a lot! [02:25] If you would excuse me, I have a new operating system I must try out. :3 [02:25] :) [02:25] So long, niggaz. [02:32] he has potential for being banned...bright future here [02:32] stlsaint, who? [02:33] 21:25 < Scruffy113> So long, niggaz. [02:34] They'd ban someone over that? [02:34] pretty silly, IMO [02:34] pedro3005: well, not over that single action but repeatedly i would move for a temp ban [02:35] pedro3005: also im african american and though i dont take offense to ignorance i do when its in a support channel as such [02:35] stlsaint, I don't believe he was particularly trying to insult anyone. [02:35] probably just a kid [02:35] pedro3005: nor do i which is why i say not being banned on a single act... [02:36] trying to be cool [02:36] next time i see him i will ask him not to make remarks as such, if they stop then all is well. if not than........ [02:36] holstein: i wouldnt doubt it [02:37] He did spell it with a Z afterall [02:37] lol [02:38] you guys would be amazed at what ive seen in irc channels! [02:38] I don't know about that? [02:39] my name generates insults from time to time, but I just shrug it off [02:39] your name generates insults? [02:40] pedro3005: you mean your not hispanic?? [02:40] "dirty mexican" etc [02:40] to say the least [02:40] I'm from Brazil though [02:41] :( [02:41] some people are just ignorant [02:41] Google Chrome doesn't have a repository entry? [02:42] i knwo you can get firefox... but i heard Chrome was supported. [02:43] not without adding the repo afaik [02:43] bigleon_: its chromium [02:43] sudo apt-get install chromium-browser [02:43] oh boy we lost leon again [02:43] Ohh fail on my part [02:45] ehh i apt got chromium and got a shootem up space game >.> *fail's harder* [02:45] chromium-browser [02:45] ;) [02:45] * holstein did that too the first time [02:45] i bet they get a lot of downloads hehe [02:47] Blah forgot my google pword [02:55] how can i adjust my webcam brightness I look like casper... [03:51] Evening, all. [03:52] Anybody fielding questions? [03:53] whats up? [03:53] Oh, that's a tough one. [03:54] Opposite of down. [03:54] My problem's probably simple. 'Sound Preferences' doesn't open for me. [03:55] I think it might have been since the update. [03:55] you have sound though? [03:55] Yeah, the sound is fine. [03:55] hmmm [03:55] does alsamixer work? [03:55] Yeah, it's strange. [03:56] i got a VIA netbook [03:56] and when i laungh sound preferences, it crashes my sound [03:57] Do you get any output if you run it from the terminal? gnome-volume-control [03:57] I'm using an ASUS Eee 900. Something about netbooks? [03:57] hmmm [03:58] my eee900 has always worked great [03:58] let me fire it up and check [03:58] Oh damn. Now I feel silly, geirha. 'gnome-media' is not installed. [03:59] That may be a reason for it to not show up. :) [04:00] No, it's installed and runs now. [04:00] Thanks to you both. [04:02] Just testing my sound to be sure... [04:02] Yeah, I'm all good. How the hell did that happen, I wonder? Surely it's standard? I must've done something... [04:04] Did it pull in any other packages when you installed it? [04:05] No, it seems just that was missing. [04:11] Well, thank you again. Time to lurk somewhere else. [04:11] Fanshawe: stop by anytime :D [05:48] sigh... Had wifi working when I got off Ubuntu 3 hours ago, and now it's like "what wifi driver" T___T [05:50] hehe [05:51] Then I got stupid idea... "well maybe dell has support drivers for linux " Dell *Uhh linux-wha?" [05:52] "Sir we preinstalled your PC with Windows 7 so you use Win 7 not some junk homebrew, we will not support this." So you is gonna take my lappy away O-o *sigh* one day the world will be linux friendly... Back to trouleshooting table. [05:53] Well before i rage, Driver # 2 attempt needs a reboot... anybody know a nifty terminal shortcut so i don't need to do a full system reboot? [05:54] bigleon: yea [05:54] Yea what saint? [05:54] bigleon: you running ubuntu? [05:54] Kubuntu [05:55] I don't like gnome interface >.> [05:55] bigleon: does kubuntu run kde? [05:55] Yeah [05:55] bigleon: well in ubuntu the command is: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart...so kde would prolly be /etc/init.d/kdm restart [06:01] *headdesk* No progress :( [06:01] Alright... [06:02] Well back to square one... === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [06:18] Hey, had another question for those still live. [06:18] I'm around, i'll try to help. [06:19] Great. I wanted to mount partitions automatically on startup. [06:20] How do I go about this? [06:20] O-o that is beyond me... [06:20] No problem, I'll ask around. [06:21] Sorry. Good luck! [06:21] Fanshawe: hey [06:21] Fanshawe: you need to mount them in /etc/fstab [06:22] stlsaint How would i go about uninstalling or "blacklisting drivers" to prevent them from loading... command i got is: "echo "blacklist ssb" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" but even with sudo i get a permisson deined [06:22] do you have a video group? [06:22] run in terminal : groups [06:22] Thanks very much, stlsaint. Giving it a try. [06:23] Video groups O-o? what [06:23]