[05:30] <trinikrono> hello all, ubuntu ninjas
[06:52] <drew212> ddecator: what do we do if someone experiencing a bug no longer wants to help debug it?
[06:53] <drew212> bug 592597
[06:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 592597 in firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) "Firefox suddenly disappears several times lately - 2 (affects: 1) (heat: 487)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592597
[06:56] <micahg> drew212: BTW, that's not a proper crash report
[06:59] <micahg> drew212: you can ask the user to try disabling his extensions in the current profile
[07:02] <drew212> wouldn't he still have to restart firefox?
[07:02] <micahg> drew212: yes, but his tabs would be saved
[07:02] <drew212> whats a proper crash report then?
[07:03] <micahg> drew212: with a coredump :)
[07:03] <drew212> lol...
[07:03] <drew212> so much to learn =X
[07:03] <drew212> is there a way he can extract a cordump?
[07:04] <micahg> drew212: it might not have been saved (most likely not), user seems to have not enough memory
[07:08] <ddecator> right, everything micah said :p
[07:08] <micahg> ddecator: please take over, I have to get some sleep
[07:09] <ddecator> micahg: sure thing
[07:09] <drew212> ddecator: fiance is calling again =X
[07:09] <micahg> night drew212
[07:09] <drew212> micahg: goodnight!
[07:09] <ddecator> haha, np drew212
[07:09] <ddecator> night micahg
[07:09] <drew212> ddecator: we can pick up later =P
[07:09] <micahg> night ddecator
[07:09] <ddecator> drew212: sounds good :)
[09:06] <Kangarooo> hello. i sthis a bug? X distro has default browser settings to open in X browser but from one programm all opens in Y.
[09:07] <Kangarooo> in that y browser opening programm settings is set to open default Gnome browser. (usual user dont know gnome and doestn care what is gnome- he sees default is set.) and actually distro is using xfce..
[09:08] <lifeless> Kangarooo: it sounds like a bug
[09:08] <lifeless> not sure what program I'd say the bug is on :)
[09:09] <Kangarooo> im also thinking thats a bug. but when i reported bug triager somehow thinks its a question.
[09:12] <mr_pouit> please don't report another duplicate of Bug #531325 if possible...
[09:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 531325 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Pidgin and Keyboard Layout doesnt opens links in Default Web-Browser in Xubuntu. (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531325
[09:21] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: yes im not reporting new dublicates but wanted to give update on bugs now in bugreports so im looking at all old ones- counting how much is done. and i was told link problems will be resolved in 4.8 and it will hit xubuntu in june. now is coming end of june. and the bug thats somehow mistaken as a question therefore converted is another one not mentioned here.
[09:21] <mr_pouit> Kangarooo: 4.8 has not been released, so no change to expect
[09:23] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: but is that a bug that in liferea in settings is sset default gnome browser to be used and preffered in xubuntu is set chrome and liferea opens in FF.. is that a bug or not?
[09:24] <mr_pouit> exo 0.3.x doesn't support gio, that's all
[09:24] <removido>  totem is with color balance off in lucid, how to enable? use nvidia driver and installed ubuntu perfect script
[09:35] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: soooo. what that means.. that my bug is not a bug but question? tryd searching google cant figure out exo and gio.. should i even need to know that before to report a bug about something not working as needed- easy. BTW i found 4.8 has been released 12 june. source- http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.8/schedule
[09:41] <mr_pouit> Kangarooo: no, it's not released... And yes, it's a bug, you already reported it, so everything is fine
[09:44] <Kangarooo> but now my bug report is a question it was transformed to question. should i revert question back to bugreport mr_pouit? couse now in search i cant find that bug. maybe couse its transformed. main reason why it should be back as bug report is that its not a question but a bug.
[09:45] <Kangarooo> have you found about witch one im talking about?
[09:46] <mr_pouit> you already reported Bug #531325 a few weeks ago, and this one isn't lost, so that's not so critical :p
[09:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 531325 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Pidgin and Keyboard Layout doesnt opens links in Default Web-Browser in Xubuntu. (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531325
[09:54] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: for that time is like a year already. :) but for pidgin and keyboard and liferea for each its different. that pidgin and keyboard plugin bug also can be either divided or just marked for pidgin as done. pidgin has options to choose not all xubuntu installed browsers but atleast default settings and now that works with xubuntu defautl setting. keyboard was working like one of thouse exo or gio or something and cant be choosed. and liferea can be
[10:05] <Kangarooo> ah besides that gnome default doesnt understand if xfce installed then take xfce default
[11:17] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: if have have now one better solution idea for the same bugs about default webbrowser. shoult i make a new and link others to that or edit existing one?
[11:35] <Kangarooo> ah mr_pouit since in that biggest report is written fix commited i need to make new report.. so no confusion comes to what exactly fix is commited couse a better bug description witch i just thought about will also give other solutions.
[14:58] <vish> pedro_: hi , https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622181 seems to be filed under the wrong product,component, could you fix that?
[14:58] <ubot2> Gnome bug 622181 in bindings "backup settings option uses unhelpful yes/no dialog" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[14:59] <pedro_> vish, yes, let me have a look
[14:59] <vish> thanks.
[15:01] <pedro_> vish, done
[15:02] <vish> pedro_: thanks
[15:02] <pedro_> you're welcome
[15:04] <xelister> help help
[15:04] <xelister> helpdesk?
[15:04] <xelister> my computer is slowing down terribly, what can be done??
[15:04] <jpds> Look at top? iostat?
[15:04] <xelister> - hmm. You are new user? Ok then. There is this program "nepomuku" it is designed to burn out the CPU.
[15:05] <xelister> ... just go to options systemconfig  > .. > ... disable, and fixed
[15:05] <xelister> - it worked! thanks :)  But why it is on by default????
[15:05] <xelister> ^--- I have this conversation at weekly basis.
[15:05] <xelister> with EVERY new user.
[15:06] <xelister> everyone complains, always. And NOONE uses this nepomuku anyway. WHY it is not turned off?!
[15:07] <xelister> seriously why we have to put all new users through this
[15:10] <ikonia> log a bug detailing ?
[15:10]  * vish scratches head o.0
[15:11] <jpds> xelister: http://nepomuk.kde.org/discover/user ?
[15:11] <xelister> ikonia: well its a well known proble, nepomuku just uses a lot of CPU&MEM
[15:12] <xelister> it is the most bloated application in desktop, therefore it should not be on by default imho
[15:12] <vish> xelister: known as in , bug already been reported?
[15:12] <ikonia> xelister: if it's a known problem, comment on the bug
[15:12] <ikonia> help progress the existing bug report forward
[15:14] <xelister> ok I will
[15:14] <ikonia> cool
[15:14] <ikonia> try to be constructive and factual, keep emotion out of the update and it will get read easier and better
[15:16] <xelister> nepomuku really wants me to commit seppuku.
[15:17] <xelister> perhaps this is why they used that name
[15:17] <ikonia> not sure how that's relevant
[16:49] <bdmurray> hggdh: can we get the mailing list subscribed to help.ubuntu.com/Community/ReportingBugs ?
[17:23] <benuski> Could someone mark bug #596426 as wishlist? Also, should that one be forwarded upstream?
[17:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 596426 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "So tiny "×" to click to close tabs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/596426
[17:39] <DrKenobi> pedro_: Are you available? I need to ask you a question.
[17:40] <pedro_> DrKenobi, yes, what's the question?
[17:42] <DrKenobi> pedro_: look at this Bug #390372, you set the status to 'Confirm', why? I think it could be set to 'Won't Fix'. I'm new here, I'm trying to learn :)
[17:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 390372 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "default terminal does not have an effect (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390372
[17:42] <pedro_> DrKenobi, let me have a look
[17:44] <pedro_> DrKenobi, ah ok I set that as Confirmed because it's an Ubuntu Wishlist, as upstream said it could be included in the package if we want to but that's not the default behavior they expect for it
[17:44] <pedro_> DrKenobi, feel free to comment on it if you think that's a bad idea though
[17:45] <DrKenobi> pedro_, Ok, I understand now. It's a good point of view. Thank you!
[17:46] <pedro_> DrKenobi, i don't have an strong opinion on that bug to be honest
[18:06] <hggdh> bdmurray: doing it now
[20:15] <DrKenobi> Hi! Please set bug 554221 status to 'Triaged'. Thanks!
[20:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 554221 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "terminal is closing while under another window (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554221
[20:16] <pedro_> DrKenobi, done, thank you ;-)
[20:16] <DrKenobi> Thank yo pedro_
[20:17] <DrKenobi> you
[21:10] <JFo> bug 593226 is not a kernel issue but I am unsure what package to assign it to
[21:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 593226 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "gnome panels suddenly have a 25 second delay after session load (affects: 10) (heat: 60)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/593226
[21:10] <JFo> any thoughts?
[21:11] <micahg> JFo: X related?
[21:11] <JFo> disregard :/
[21:11] <JFo> looks like someone changed it, I just hadn't looked that far :)
[21:11] <JFo> micahg, could be
[21:12] <JFo> serves me right for working from e-mail and not completing the thread
[21:25] <dlbike76> Hi!  I don't think the retrace has occurred for Bug 596170
[21:25] <ubot2> dlbike76: Bug 596170 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/596170 is private
[22:06] <zus> good afternoon everyone