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[01:39] <miststlkr> not yet, but was looking at it
[01:51] <hot_wheelz> miststlk ok what is the best way to updated on it's progress?
[01:51] <hot_wheelz> in terms of support
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[14:02] <EvilGuru> Is it possible to remove mysql-server from a Mythbuntu install without it trying to also remove the backend?
[14:07] <superm1> EvilGuru, should be
[14:07] <superm1> it should only remove the meta package
[14:07] <EvilGuru> Ah, I wish to remove the actual server
[14:09] <superm1> sorry i should have clarified
[14:09] <superm1> removing mysql server(the actual server) will only remove the mythtv backend meta package
[14:09] <superm1> it will keep the backend itself installed
[14:12] <EvilGuru> Right, okay, I'm with you
[14:20] <rileyp> EvilGuru,  why wound you want to do such a thing?
[14:21] <EvilGuru> rileyp: I have a dedicated mysql server
[14:21] <rileyp> a master backend?
[14:22] <EvilGuru> Nope, a server that runs the 5-6 MySQL databases I use around the house
[14:25] <rileyp> obliviously a complex home... :D
[14:26] <EvilGuru> Now I just need to get mythbuntu to start providing alternate install CDs again
[14:26] <EvilGuru> Currently I have to go Ubuntu => Commnand prompt install => Mythbuntu
[14:29] <rileyp> why not just burn a mythbuntu 10.04 disk and if you select front end only mysqlserver will not be installed
[14:31] <EvilGuru> rileyp: I wanted the backend, just not the mysql server
[14:34] <superm1> EvilGuru, alternate cds are not going to happen
[14:34] <superm1> we don't have the resources to test them and support them
[14:35] <superm1> what about them was good for you?
[14:35] <EvilGuru> LVM - that's it
[14:35] <superm1> it should be less important with the advent of storage groups
[14:35] <rhpot1991> storage groups make lvm useless IMO
[14:35] <rhpot1991> all of the lvm goodness, none of the lvm headaches
[14:36] <EvilGuru> superm1: LVM is much more than that, I get snapshots for backups, and if I store stuff other than mythtv stuff (media etc) then I do not need to worry
[14:36] <EvilGuru> as it just gets split across whatever drives I have in the system
[14:36] <rileyp> so select secondary backend that has no server
[14:37] <rhpot1991> EvilGuru: sounds like you need to make a NAS and just hit that with a storage group then
[14:37] <rileyp> as it relies on the Master but you can stll add acpture cards etc
[14:37] <superm1> EvilGuru, well i'll provide an alternative then; from the live disk, before you run the installer (in live mode) you can command line install the LVM package and configure your LVM before install by hand.  the graphical installer won't destroy it if you tell it to manually partition
[14:37] <EvilGuru> superm1: I did consider that, but was unsure about what partition manager to use
[14:38] <EvilGuru> So I did a command line install of 10.04 from the Ubuntu alternate disk and went from there
[14:38] <superm1> EvilGuru, use either fdisk, parted, or gparted initially
[14:38] <superm1> and then the regular commands to make lvm after that
[14:39] <EvilGuru> I'll try that next time, thanks
[14:39] <EvilGuru> As I can not see the regular Ubuntu installer gaining LVM support soon
[15:06] <superm1> there are other priorities before LVM
[15:06] <superm1> it's on the agenda after them though