[00:54] <alvin-laptop> Good morning all, How do you install a plugin correctly?
[00:55] <alvin-laptop> I'm not sure whats the best way to go about it
[01:18] <alvin-laptop> Has anybody had any experience installing xfce4-cddrive-plugin?
[01:19] <knome> alvin-laptop, sudo apt-get install xfce4-cddrive-plugin
[01:19] <alvin-laptop> You want me to type that into the terminal right?
[01:20] <knome> alvin-laptop, yes, that installs the plugin you need
[01:20] <alvin-laptop> Do I need to extract the file first
[01:20] <knome> alvin-laptop, what file?
[01:21] <knome> alvin-laptop, just type that command and the plugin is installed
[01:21] <knome> alvin-laptop, you don't need any files since the plugin is in the ubuntu repositories
[01:21] <alvin-laptop> excellent, let me try that out.
[01:23] <alvin-laptop> Great that worked
[01:23] <alvin-laptop> Why is it that you have to go through the terminal?
[01:23] <knome> alvin-laptop, you don't HAVE to, but that's easiest way to help you via irc
[01:24] <knome> alvin-laptop, you could have done that via any package manager
[01:24] <alvin-laptop> I'm very greatful for your help. Can I use the same method for other plugins
[01:25] <knome> alvin-laptop, absolutely
[01:26] <alvin-laptop> Are there any other plugins you recommed downloading
[01:26] <knome> alvin-laptop, i personally use the notes plugin, but that might actually even be installed by default
[01:28] <alvin-laptop> For some reason I couldn't find that plugin in the repositories. Does that mean I need to add any additional repositries
[01:28] <knome> alvin-laptop, see if it's installed by default
[01:28] <knome> alvin-laptop, if not, it's in some kind of "bundle" package iirc :)
[01:29] <alvin-laptop> Let me see if I can find it...
[01:29] <knome> alvin-laptop, anyway, in the future, referring to just "plugin" can be a bit misleading, better use "xfce panel plugin"
[01:30] <alvin-laptop> Thanks for the heads-up I make sure I remember that in the future
[01:30] <knome> no problem :)
[01:31] <alvin-laptop> sorry going back a step...do I need to go through the software centre to find plugins?
[01:32] <knome> alvin-laptop, did you just try adding the plugin to panel? you didn't find it?
[01:32] <alvin-laptop> yes, but nothing came up... Is that unusual?
[01:33] <knome> can you be more verbose - what do you mean nothing came up?
[01:34] <knome> in the list or in the panel?
[01:34] <alvin-laptop> When I copied across the plugin name in the search box - no results came up
[01:35] <knome> oh, you won't find it with the name in the repository
[01:35] <knome> try searching with "notes"
[01:39] <alvin-laptop> I'm at the Ubuntu Software centre front page but I can't see anything that says "notes".
[01:39] <knome> alvin-laptop, sorry if *I* wasn't verbose enough
[01:40] <knome> alvin-laptop, right-click the panel, select add new items and see if you can find "notes" there
[01:42] <alvin-laptop> Do you mean the search pane?
[01:43] <knome> http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/xfapplet1.png - the one at the right top ;)
[01:43] <knome> or just browse the list
[01:45] <alvin-laptop> got iy
[01:45] <alvin-laptop> I meant got it
[01:45] <knome> :)
[01:45] <knome> did you find the plugin?
[01:45] <alvin-laptop> yes I did
[01:46] <knome> great
[01:47] <alvin-laptop> can these plugins also be downloaded from the software repository
[01:47] <knome> alvin-laptop, i'm not sure if the plugins are listed in the software store
[01:47] <alvin-laptop> so going through the sudo command is my best option
[01:48] <knome> alvin-laptop, check your applications » system menu if you have "synaptic" installed
[01:48] <knome> alvin-laptop, with that, you can search and install any package graphically
[01:50] <alvin-laptop> synaptic is defiantly installed
[01:51] <alvin-laptop> let my see if I can't find that package
[01:52] <alvin-laptop> I found the xfce destop environment category!
[01:53] <knome> you'll find pretty much *anything* there
[01:53] <alvin-laptop> There don't appear to be a whole lot of plugins
[01:53] <knome> but some? :)
[01:55] <alvin-laptop> yes... there are a couple
[01:55] <knome> alvin-laptop, did you know you can use the gnome panel applets in the xfce panel when you use the xfapplet plugin?
[01:56] <alvin-laptop> No I didn't infact
[01:56] <knome> now you do :)
[01:56] <alvin-laptop> Yes...that I do :-D
[01:57] <alvin-laptop> Does xfce goodies have their own repository?
[01:57] <knome> alvin-laptop, no, they are in the normal ubuntu repositories
[01:58] <alvin-laptop> interesting... I'll have to play around a little more with the repositories and see is I can find some more extensions
[01:59] <knome> is there anything specific you might need?
[01:59] <alvin-laptop> when you say "normal Ubuntu repositories" does that entail going through the software centre or synaptic?
[02:00] <alvin-laptop> No there isn't anything I need specifically but It would be nice to know were to go in case
[02:00] <knome> alvin-laptop, as far as i know, software center is just a selection of apps found in the repositories
[02:00] <knome> alvin-laptop, in synaptic, you'll find *everything* that's in the repositories
[02:02] <alvin-laptop> I understand the distinction know! I was a little confused at first :P
[02:03] <knome> we all have to start somewhere
[02:03] <alvin-laptop> I've only been using xubuntu for 2 days so far
[02:05] <knome> that's more than 1 day or 2 hours
[02:06] <alvin-laptop> Yes that true...ow long have you been using linux based os
[02:07] <knome> alvin-laptop, exclusively from november 2006
[02:07] <alvin-laptop> how have you found the transition from windows based operating systems?
[02:08] <knome> alvin-laptop, at first everything is new and even a bit scary, but as long as you are willing to explore, you will get over all the obstacles
[02:08] <knome> alvin-laptop, what helped me lot was to uninstall all windows systems from every machine and just repeat to myself: "i must cope with these"
[02:16] <alvin-laptop> As a student I was very apprehensive about making the witch to Linux based distributions
[02:16] <alvin-laptop> sorry i meant switch
[02:16] <knome> yeah
[02:16] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, and now?
[02:18] <alvin-laptop> It's still early days yet. I'm still tempted to re-install windows vista. I been so conditioned to use windows based systems that I find it difficult to use anything else
[02:18] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, that is normal, you culd install windows in virtualbox
[02:20] <Raggs> virtualbox is pretty easy to get running
[02:20] <alvin-laptop> But as I learn more I find it more comfortable to navigate my way around linux. I suppose, in a way, I chose xubuntu because it shares some similarities with widows (desktop items etc)
[02:21] <alvin-laptop> Made a wager with someone that I could go a whole six months without using a windows based product. It still seems like a difficult proposition.
[02:21] <likemindead> You can do it, alvin-laptop! :D
[02:22] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, linux is very nive, i still have to use windows on occasion
[02:22] <Raggs> nive
[02:22] <Raggs> nice
[02:22] <likemindead> I'm not a very technical user, but I have been Linux only for over three years! :D
[02:22] <likemindead> If you have an issue, the Linux community is quick to help via IRC, forums, and LUGs.
[02:23] <alvin-laptop> The community here is so much more helpful
[02:23] <likemindead> Or even just a quick Google search.
[02:23] <likemindead> Yep.
[02:23] <likemindead> A favorite of mine. --> http://whylinuxisbetter.net
[02:23] <alvin-laptop> Google has defiantly become invaluable for how-to guides
[02:23] <alvin-laptop> ooh, I'll have to try that one.
[02:25] <alvin-laptop> One thing I do like about Xubuntu in comparison to other distributions and windows is how simple and quick it is.
[02:29] <clao> hey, i have xubuntu, and the panels are not showing up and the panel configuration option doesnt work, which log do i have to open to see what happened?
[02:29] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, very fast and with tools you can use, no notepad crap here
[02:31] <alvin-laptop> Is Xubuntu your primary operating system?
[02:31] <knome> clao, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel
[02:31] <Raggs> alvin-laptop,  me?
[02:31] <alvin-laptop> Knome is still here - good
[02:31] <alvin-laptop> yes raggs
[02:31] <Raggs> not exactly
[02:31] <alvin-laptop> what do youuse
[02:32] <Raggs> i use Fedora and Salix and Debian as well
[02:32] <knome> alvin-laptop, of course i'm still here - it's only 4.30am
[02:33] <alvin-laptop> What 4.30 am? Do you sleep...
[02:33] <knome> now and then
[02:33] <Raggs> kome will get plenty of sleep when he is dead
[02:33] <alvin-laptop> :-D hehehe
[02:33] <alvin-laptop> where do you guys hail from
[02:34]  * knome is one of the many finnish guys here
[02:34] <clao> knome thanks very much, still, do you happen to jknow which log is the one to check on that kind of stuff?
[02:34] <alvin-laptop> I from Australia
[02:34] <Raggs> i am a unitedstatesian
[02:34] <knome> clao, sorry, no - but when you log out the next time...
[02:35] <knome> clao, close all applications, then make sure you check the "save session" checkbox
[02:35] <alvin-laptop> US, Finland - very diverse group
[02:35] <knome> clao, on the next logout after that - feel free to uncheck that box :)
[02:35]  * likemindead is from Texas in the US 0f A.
[02:35] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, the wonders of irc
[02:35] <clao> knome, thanks again
[02:35] <alvin-laptop> Cool a Texan
[02:36] <likemindead> I'm in Oklahoma at the moment. :-\
[02:36] <alvin-laptop> do you guys use the IRC often?
[02:36] <knome> Raggs, that's not an irc wonder that people live in different times - but that is when you can have a guy from usa, finland and australia awake at the same time ;)
[02:36] <Raggs> define often
[02:36] <knome> alvin-laptop, every day
[02:36] <knome> alvin-laptop, 5+ hours
[02:36] <knome> :P
[02:37] <Raggs> knome, only because your a freak :p
[02:37] <knome> if i'm workingm then more
[02:37] <knome> Raggs, as i said.. the wonders of the irc ;)
[02:37] <alvin-laptop> Verging on an addiction wouldn't you say knome
[02:37] <knome> alvin-laptop, not really - i have *been* an irc addict, and this is far away from it
[02:37] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, if my computer is operating i am probably on irc
[02:37] <alvin-laptop> by often I mean a regular basis
[02:38] <alvin-laptop> Yes it's funny that were all awake at the same time. Although it is the middle of the day here
[02:39] <Raggs> 9:30 at night here
[02:39] <Raggs> originally logged into irc at 10am
[02:39] <alvin-laptop> Has anybody attempted streamlining Xubuntu to get better performance?
[02:39] <Raggs> so on and off since then
[02:40] <knome> Raggs, and you call *me* a freak? ;)
[02:40] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, you want slim and performance, how about a learning curve?
[02:40] <Raggs> knome, well, there can be two freaks no?
[02:40] <alvin-laptop> yes, go for it
[02:40] <Raggs> install slackware
[02:41] <knome> Raggs, nah, i don't think so, only one fits into a channel ;]
[02:41] <alvin-laptop> is slackware text based
[02:41] <Raggs> and yet here we are knome, will the planet explode?
[02:41] <knome> ...yes
[02:41] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, the install is a little bit
[02:41] <knome> alvin-laptop, i'd suggest stay with xubuntu a year or so, then start thinking about other alternatives
[02:42] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, you will understand alot better linux
[02:42] <alvin-laptop> I would prefer to stay with Xubuntu until I get my head round things
[02:42] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, xubuntu is very quick
[02:42] <Raggs> what system specs are you running it on?
[02:43] <alvin-laptop> True, but I read an article some were that xubuntu is among one of the slowest xfce distro out there
[02:44] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, i would agree from my experience, but when you take into account the user friendliness it evens out
[02:44] <alvin-laptop> Intel core 2 Duo 1.5Ghz (modile cpu), 4 gig ram, 64 bit system (what else could be better)
[02:44] <Raggs> for example, Debian with the xfce4 desktop is much snappier than Xubuntu
[02:44] <knome> alvin-laptop, more ram, better cpu? ;]
[02:45] <Raggs> i would like 8G of ram
[02:45]  * knome is thinking of 16G
[02:45] <alvin-laptop> That would be nice but I can't replace my cpu (laptop) and I've maxed out my ram
[02:46] <Raggs> my laptop came with 4G and is upgradeable to 8
[02:46] <alvin-laptop> My machine actually boots faster with vista than my parents new i3 windows 7 laptop
[02:46] <Raggs> when i have extra money
[02:47] <Raggs> i have used vista, for about 3 days
[02:47] <alvin-laptop> Components can make a difference but I think it's more dependant on the OS.
[02:48] <alvin-laptop> People criticise vista but when I began tweaking it It ran insanely fast + it was great way to learn about an os
[02:48] <Raggs> vista is much slower on the other laptop than 7 is
[02:48] <Raggs> i learned using M.E.
[02:49] <Raggs> which is arguably the worst windows OS ever
[02:49] <Raggs> sorry, which is arguably the worst  OS ever
[02:50] <alvin-laptop> Unfortunately like most windows based systems the machine is often restricted by various overheads e.g. aero , sidebar, unnecessary processes
[02:50] <Raggs> and the whole windows is evil thing
[02:51] <alvin-laptop> I'm not really sure, it depends a lot on personal preference. For example, I don't actually mind vista
[02:52] <alvin-laptop> I think windows 7 is basically a cut down and revamped edition of vista anyway. There is no way they could develop an os from the ground up in such a small amount of time.
[02:53] <alvin-laptop> Marketing strategy - that all it was
[02:53] <alvin-laptop> knome - your thoughts
[02:53] <knome> alvin-laptop, about? :)
[02:54] <alvin-laptop> window, life, the world etc
[02:54] <knome> heh, well; i prefer the pre-xp OS's since they did not have that silly registeration stuff
[02:54] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, never leave home without a towel
[02:55] <alvin-laptop> Yes, by the time I stripped down vista it actually looked like xp
[02:55] <alvin-laptop> Although vista has a better 64 bit support (naturally)
[02:56] <alvin-laptop> I think KNOME is falling a sleep on us =-O
[02:56] <knome> no, not really, just watching a silly cooking movie on youtube
[02:57] <alvin-laptop> checkout cooking with coolio - funny stuff
[02:57] <Raggs> alvin-laptop, this is why you should carry a towel  http://pastebin.ca/1887463
[02:57] <Raggs> brb
[03:00] <alvin-laptop> I better head off also, nice talking to you Knome. I'm sure I'll see you soon.
[03:00] <knome> alvin-laptop, i'm pretty sure also :) have a nice day
[03:00] <alvin-laptop> :-D
[03:12] <fuyao> hello any1 here?
[03:12] <knome> yup
[03:13] <fuyao> i tried to install wine on my 10.04, but after the installation, it's no where to be found
[03:13] <knome> fuyao, try alt+f2 and run "winefile"
[03:13] <fuyao> i remember before in 8.04, after i finished installing, wine will appear in applications
[03:13] <fuyao> ok
[03:14] <fuyao> The command "winefile" failed to run:
[03:14] <fuyao> Failed to execute child process "winefile" (No such file or directory)
[03:15] <fuyao> hang on lemme try again
[03:19] <fuyao> ya worked thank you
[03:19] <knome> np
[05:41] <Shamoun> hey guys
[05:41] <Raggs> hi Shamoun
[05:41] <Shamoun> what utility can i use in xubuntu to manage services that start with my pc?
[05:42] <Raggs> System > Preferences > Startup Applications, you mean that?
[05:44] <Shamoun> Raggs, er, i don't seem to have that
[05:44] <Shamoun> maybe its different because its xubuntu and not ubuntu?
[05:45] <Raggs> yep
[05:45] <Shamoun> realslix, so how can i get that in xubuntu?
[05:46] <Shamoun> i mean Raggs
[05:46] <Raggs> i think it is there in the menus already
[05:46] <Shamoun> maybe you could just tell me the name of that utility and i can install it
[05:46] <Raggs> look under system
[05:47] <Shamoun> i have looked and i don't see it
[05:47] <Shamoun> or anything close to it
[05:47] <Shamoun> there is an xfce settings which has a startup menu, but that is for a user login and not for a daemon
[05:47] <Raggs> i am sure someone here who is running Xubuntu will be better help
[06:08] <kr4zy10> how does this work with via chipset and grapics card?
[06:10] <Raggs> you mean nvidia?
[07:16] <kr4zy10> nope via
[07:23] <_Techie_> has anyone in here had any experience with ATI cards in crossfire?
[08:51] <industrial> Hi. Where do I set keybindings for eg swapping workspaces?
[08:56] <_Techie_> has anyone in here had any experience with ATI cards in crossfire?
[09:32] <alvin-laptop> How do I download sky through synaptic?
[09:32] <alvin-laptop> correction *skype*
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> !find sky
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> !find skype
[09:32] <alvin-laptop> one moment
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> search in synaptic for skype
[09:33] <alvin-laptop> found skype python
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> !repos
[09:33] <alvin-laptop> and various other extentions
[09:35] <alvin-laptop> Is there no single package which contains the whole skype program
[09:35] <well_laid_lawn> i don't use it sorry
[09:36] <alvin-laptop> it's a bit confusing - why can't they lable them more clearly!
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> I agree
[09:36] <alvin-laptop> I think I may be better of downloading it from the website directly
[09:37] <alvin-laptop> I shall take a look at the link ubotto
[09:38] <alvin-laptop> by the way - how do you guys respond directly to someone during chat
[09:39] <well_laid_lawn> alvin-laptop: just using their nick is fine
[09:39] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[09:39] <alvin-laptop> let me try
[09:40] <alvin-laptop> so i click tab then on you name... is that it
[09:40] <alvin-laptop> hello
[09:40] <alvin-laptop> nope...didn
[09:40] <well_laid_lawn> I type alv and hit the tab button and get alvin-laptop
[09:40] <alvin-laptop> alvin-laptop:
[09:40] <alvin-laptop> sweet
[09:40] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[09:40] <alvin-laptop> well_laid_lawn: thanks
[09:41] <well_laid_lawn> np :] alv<tab>
[09:41] <alvin-laptop> well_laid_lawn: didn't i speak to you this morning
[09:41] <well_laid_lawn> alvin-laptop: wasn't me I was working
[09:42] <alvin-laptop> well_laid_lawn: perhaps some other time
[09:42] <well_laid_lawn> maybe... I'm hre often alvin-laptop
[09:42] <well_laid_lawn> s/hre/here
[09:43] <alvin-laptop> well_laid_lawn: what does that mean
[09:44] <well_laid_lawn> alvin-laptop: it is a regular expression which means   substitute here for hre
[09:44] <alvin-laptop> well_laid_lawn: you learn something new each day
[09:44] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[09:44] <well_laid_lawn> it is from sed and the like
[09:44] <well_laid_lawn> !info sed
[09:45] <alvin-laptop> ubottu: ?
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> !bot
[09:46] <alvin-laptop> well_laid_lawn: so ubottu isn't an actual person...correct?
[09:46] <well_laid_lawn> alvin-laptop: it is an irc bot that has regular answers as factoids
[09:46] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi
[09:47] <alvin-laptop> love it
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[09:47] <alvin-laptop> let me try
[09:47] <alvin-laptop> opensource
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> !messagethebot
[09:47] <alvin-laptop> dam
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> heh :]
[10:11] <alvin-laptop> I just downloaded it from there site (skype)
[10:12] <alvin-laptop> just download it from their site - much quicker that way
[15:01] <xubuntu570> I'm so glad there's a slick calculator in XUBUNTU.
[15:01] <xubuntu570> This installation just gives me the shivers. I can't believe I'm getting a SLICK CALCULATOR!!!
[15:01] <xubuntu570> None of my other operating systems had one! I feel so special now.
[15:02] <xubuntu570> Oh and sticking a link to an IRC channel DURING and installation isn't the smartest thing in worlf.
[15:02] <xubuntu570> *world
[15:02] <xubuntu570> You guys really need some help with installation marketing
[15:02] <xubuntu570> 'Cuz this is horrible
[15:03] <Sysi> this isn't developers channel
[15:04] <xubuntu570> it's horrible anyway. Who cares if there is a slick calculator?
[15:04] <Sir_Konrad> wait... wut?
[15:04] <bazhang> xubuntu570, did you have a support question?
[15:04] <xubuntu570> no I'm just griping,
[15:05] <Sir_Konrad> shut up xubuntu570.
[15:05] <bazhang> try #xubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <Sir_Konrad> the OS is good when you boot.
[15:05] <bazhang> Sir_Konrad, that's not necessary
[15:05] <Sir_Konrad> bazhang: dude come on. He's griping about a calculator? >_<
[15:06] <bazhang> let's keep it civil and on topic please
[15:35] <Sir_Konrad> what is the apt-get package name for kernel sources?
[15:38] <ablomen> linux-headers-generic (for the kernel headers) and linux-source (for the actual source) i think
[15:39] <ablomen> most of the time you only need the headers
[15:39] <ablomen> you only need the sources if you are going to actually compile your own kernel, which i don't recommend
[15:40] <Sir_Konrad> ok thanks ablomen. ;)
[15:42] <JammieDodger> hi
[15:42] <JammieDodger> can someone help me?
[15:43] <likemindead> !help | JammieDodger
[15:43] <JammieDodger> Stfu you
[15:43]  * likemindead smells a troll.
[15:43] <JammieDodger> i have a burning case of chlamidia
[15:43] <likemindead> !ops
[15:43] <JammieDodger> what should i do?
[15:43] <JammieDodger> IT BURRRRRRRRRRNS
[15:43] <cody-somerville> eww
[15:43] <likemindead> facepalm.jpg
[15:44] <ikonia> huh
[15:44] <Sir_Konrad> yay for Pici.
[15:44] <likemindead> Agreed.
[15:45] <Pici> Unfortunately, this guy is making trouble in other channels as well. :(
[15:46] <Sir_Konrad> FreeNode will give his IP a ban if he's banned from too many channels. \o/
[16:42] <fuyao> hello i came here for help once again
[16:54] <Sysi> heh, three minutes
[18:27] <Sir_Konrad> iOS 4 is out!
[18:48] <Kangarooo1> hello. can i ask question? or should i just ask? maybe no one is alive again..?
[18:49] <Sir_Konrad> Kangarooo1: here I am.
[18:49] <Kangarooo1> i want to open .exe file in wine but i get error. but here is solution http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/05/31/the-file-pathfile-exe-is-not-marked-as-executable/ but in xubuntu i cant make this solution work..
[18:49] <Sir_Konrad> we're all grabbing our copies of iOS 4. ;)
[18:50] <Kangarooo1> so i need to make in file right click properties makes as executable- allow but in xubuntu i dont see that option for exe files..
[18:51] <Kangarooo1> i can even send exe file thrue irc..
[18:53] <Sysi> Kangarooo1: you can start it from command line
[19:02] <kr4zy10> anyone got a good tutorial site that can direct a noobie on xubuntu?
[19:06] <TheSheep> !desktop guide
[19:08] <TheSheep> kr4zy10: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[19:08] <knome> TheSheep, that didn't work out, hm?
[19:09] <TheSheep> knome: one would expect it to be in there
[19:10] <TheSheep> then again, it's pretty much outdated
[19:10] <IncrStorm> Wouldn't anything on Linux be a good start? Or is it just newb to the distro?
[19:10] <Sysi> do we have some generic stuff on ubuntu manual?
[19:12] <knome> !desktopguide
[19:12] <knome> hmm...
[19:15] <Raggs> is it bad to run the xubuntu desktop on ubuntu?
[19:16] <knome> Raggs, no
[19:16] <Raggs> hi knome glad to see your awake
[19:16] <knome> ;)
[19:17] <Raggs> I would like to offer help here when able however sometimes shockingly enough the question is Xfce4 related
[19:17] <knome> Raggs, feel free to - just jump in and answer
[19:17] <Raggs> i did last night after you crashed
[19:17] <knome> heh
[19:18] <Raggs> the question i couldnt answer, is there a gui to change startup apps in xubuntu?
[19:19] <Sysi> settings → sessions & startup, if you ment that
[19:20] <Raggs> Sysi: yeah, but i couldnt remember exaclty and the person coulnt find it
[19:20] <Sysi> well, there is :)
[19:22] <Raggs> Sysi: i dont doubt you
[19:23] <Raggs> actually got wine installed and working, loving buntu
[19:25] <Raggs> not on it atm however, on a school computer
[19:45] <kr4zy10> thanks for the replies on the guides
[20:51] <gnomefreak> is there any Xubuntu PPAs around?
[20:59] <mr_pouit> gnomefreak: yeah, there is one from ~xubuntu-dev, if you want 4.7.x development releases
[20:59] <gnomefreak> mr_pouit: do you have a link by chance so i dont forget
[21:00] <mr_pouit> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa/+packages
[21:00] <gnomefreak> mr_pouit: thanks much
[22:17] <slow-motion> hi
[22:19]  * likemindead waves.
[23:23] <IncrStorm> Is muddleftp extinct, or am I just crazy? I'm looking for some documentation on it.
[23:23] <IncrStorm> The man page is worthless, and the website "documentation" links are broken.
[23:32] <IncrStorm> Is anyone here?
[23:35] <likemindead> Yep.
[23:35] <likemindead> !help
[23:36] <likemindead> Must just be that no one knows about muddleftp.
[23:36] <likemindead> (I've never heard of it, sorry.)
[23:44] <IncrStorm> The question was on one line, the following line was to fend off any RTFM statements.
[23:46] <Sysi> rt*m shouldn't exist in ubuntu channels
[23:46] <IncrStorm> likemindead, neither have I, but the distro has been pushing me towards that package.
[23:47] <likemindead> What does it do?
[23:49] <IncrStorm> One wouldn't think, but I wouldn't expect 3 lines of angst for 2 questions. LOL
[23:50] <IncrStorm> Actually, I misspelled, it's muddleftpd
[23:50] <IncrStorm> It's an FTP daemon.
[23:51] <likemindead> The home page was last updated in 2002. :-\
[23:52] <likemindead> Relevant? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/muddleftpd/1.3.13.1-4.2build2
[23:52] <likemindead> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?lang=uk&keywords=muddleftpd
[23:53] <likemindead> Those help, IncrStorm?
[23:53] <xubuntu392> ?
[23:53] <xubuntu392> exit
[23:57] <alvin-laptop> Why is there a delay when you boot up xubuntu