[00:54] Good morning all, How do you install a plugin correctly? [00:55] I'm not sure whats the best way to go about it [01:18] Has anybody had any experience installing xfce4-cddrive-plugin? [01:19] alvin-laptop, sudo apt-get install xfce4-cddrive-plugin [01:19] You want me to type that into the terminal right? [01:20] alvin-laptop, yes, that installs the plugin you need [01:20] Do I need to extract the file first [01:20] alvin-laptop, what file? [01:21] alvin-laptop, just type that command and the plugin is installed [01:21] alvin-laptop, you don't need any files since the plugin is in the ubuntu repositories [01:21] excellent, let me try that out. [01:23] Great that worked [01:23] Why is it that you have to go through the terminal? [01:23] alvin-laptop, you don't HAVE to, but that's easiest way to help you via irc [01:24] alvin-laptop, you could have done that via any package manager [01:24] I'm very greatful for your help. Can I use the same method for other plugins [01:25] alvin-laptop, absolutely [01:26] Are there any other plugins you recommed downloading [01:26] alvin-laptop, i personally use the notes plugin, but that might actually even be installed by default [01:28] For some reason I couldn't find that plugin in the repositories. Does that mean I need to add any additional repositries [01:28] alvin-laptop, see if it's installed by default [01:28] alvin-laptop, if not, it's in some kind of "bundle" package iirc :) [01:29] Let me see if I can find it... [01:29] alvin-laptop, anyway, in the future, referring to just "plugin" can be a bit misleading, better use "xfce panel plugin" [01:30] Thanks for the heads-up I make sure I remember that in the future [01:30] no problem :) [01:31] sorry going back a step...do I need to go through the software centre to find plugins? [01:32] alvin-laptop, did you just try adding the plugin to panel? you didn't find it? [01:32] yes, but nothing came up... Is that unusual? [01:33] can you be more verbose - what do you mean nothing came up? [01:34] in the list or in the panel? [01:34] When I copied across the plugin name in the search box - no results came up [01:35] oh, you won't find it with the name in the repository [01:35] try searching with "notes" [01:39] I'm at the Ubuntu Software centre front page but I can't see anything that says "notes". [01:39] alvin-laptop, sorry if *I* wasn't verbose enough [01:40] alvin-laptop, right-click the panel, select add new items and see if you can find "notes" there [01:42] Do you mean the search pane? [01:43] http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/xfapplet1.png - the one at the right top ;) [01:43] or just browse the list [01:45] got iy [01:45] I meant got it [01:45] :) [01:45] did you find the plugin? [01:45] yes I did [01:46] great [01:47] can these plugins also be downloaded from the software repository [01:47] alvin-laptop, i'm not sure if the plugins are listed in the software store [01:47] so going through the sudo command is my best option [01:48] alvin-laptop, check your applications » system menu if you have "synaptic" installed [01:48] alvin-laptop, with that, you can search and install any package graphically [01:50] synaptic is defiantly installed [01:51] let my see if I can't find that package [01:52] I found the xfce destop environment category! [01:53] you'll find pretty much *anything* there [01:53] There don't appear to be a whole lot of plugins [01:53] but some? :) [01:55] yes... there are a couple [01:55] alvin-laptop, did you know you can use the gnome panel applets in the xfce panel when you use the xfapplet plugin? [01:56] No I didn't infact [01:56] now you do :) [01:56] Yes...that I do :-D [01:57] Does xfce goodies have their own repository? [01:57] alvin-laptop, no, they are in the normal ubuntu repositories [01:58] interesting... I'll have to play around a little more with the repositories and see is I can find some more extensions [01:59] is there anything specific you might need? [01:59] when you say "normal Ubuntu repositories" does that entail going through the software centre or synaptic? [02:00] No there isn't anything I need specifically but It would be nice to know were to go in case [02:00] alvin-laptop, as far as i know, software center is just a selection of apps found in the repositories [02:00] alvin-laptop, in synaptic, you'll find *everything* that's in the repositories [02:02] I understand the distinction know! I was a little confused at first :P [02:03] we all have to start somewhere [02:03] I've only been using xubuntu for 2 days so far [02:05] that's more than 1 day or 2 hours [02:06] Yes that true...ow long have you been using linux based os [02:07] alvin-laptop, exclusively from november 2006 [02:07] how have you found the transition from windows based operating systems? [02:08] alvin-laptop, at first everything is new and even a bit scary, but as long as you are willing to explore, you will get over all the obstacles [02:08] alvin-laptop, what helped me lot was to uninstall all windows systems from every machine and just repeat to myself: "i must cope with these" [02:16] As a student I was very apprehensive about making the witch to Linux based distributions [02:16] sorry i meant switch [02:16] yeah [02:16] alvin-laptop, and now? [02:18] It's still early days yet. I'm still tempted to re-install windows vista. I been so conditioned to use windows based systems that I find it difficult to use anything else [02:18] alvin-laptop, that is normal, you culd install windows in virtualbox [02:20] virtualbox is pretty easy to get running [02:20] But as I learn more I find it more comfortable to navigate my way around linux. I suppose, in a way, I chose xubuntu because it shares some similarities with widows (desktop items etc) [02:21] Made a wager with someone that I could go a whole six months without using a windows based product. It still seems like a difficult proposition. [02:21] You can do it, alvin-laptop! :D [02:22] alvin-laptop, linux is very nive, i still have to use windows on occasion [02:22] nive [02:22] nice [02:22] I'm not a very technical user, but I have been Linux only for over three years! :D [02:22] If you have an issue, the Linux community is quick to help via IRC, forums, and LUGs. [02:23] The community here is so much more helpful [02:23] Or even just a quick Google search. [02:23] Yep. [02:23] A favorite of mine. --> http://whylinuxisbetter.net [02:23] Google has defiantly become invaluable for how-to guides [02:23] ooh, I'll have to try that one. [02:25] One thing I do like about Xubuntu in comparison to other distributions and windows is how simple and quick it is. [02:29] hey, i have xubuntu, and the panels are not showing up and the panel configuration option doesnt work, which log do i have to open to see what happened? [02:29] alvin-laptop, very fast and with tools you can use, no notepad crap here [02:31] Is Xubuntu your primary operating system? [02:31] clao, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel [02:31] alvin-laptop, me? [02:31] Knome is still here - good [02:31] yes raggs [02:31] not exactly [02:31] what do youuse [02:32] i use Fedora and Salix and Debian as well [02:32] alvin-laptop, of course i'm still here - it's only 4.30am [02:33] What 4.30 am? Do you sleep... [02:33] now and then [02:33] kome will get plenty of sleep when he is dead [02:33] :-D hehehe [02:33] where do you guys hail from [02:34] * knome is one of the many finnish guys here [02:34] knome thanks very much, still, do you happen to jknow which log is the one to check on that kind of stuff? [02:34] I from Australia [02:34] i am a unitedstatesian [02:34] clao, sorry, no - but when you log out the next time... [02:35] clao, close all applications, then make sure you check the "save session" checkbox [02:35] US, Finland - very diverse group [02:35] clao, on the next logout after that - feel free to uncheck that box :) [02:35] * likemindead is from Texas in the US 0f A. [02:35] alvin-laptop, the wonders of irc [02:35] knome, thanks again [02:35] Cool a Texan [02:36] I'm in Oklahoma at the moment. :-\ [02:36] do you guys use the IRC often? [02:36] Raggs, that's not an irc wonder that people live in different times - but that is when you can have a guy from usa, finland and australia awake at the same time ;) [02:36] define often [02:36] alvin-laptop, every day [02:36] alvin-laptop, 5+ hours [02:36] :P [02:37] knome, only because your a freak :p [02:37] if i'm workingm then more [02:37] Raggs, as i said.. the wonders of the irc ;) [02:37] Verging on an addiction wouldn't you say knome [02:37] alvin-laptop, not really - i have *been* an irc addict, and this is far away from it [02:37] alvin-laptop, if my computer is operating i am probably on irc [02:37] by often I mean a regular basis [02:38] Yes it's funny that were all awake at the same time. Although it is the middle of the day here [02:39] 9:30 at night here [02:39] originally logged into irc at 10am [02:39] Has anybody attempted streamlining Xubuntu to get better performance? [02:39] so on and off since then [02:40] Raggs, and you call *me* a freak? ;) [02:40] alvin-laptop, you want slim and performance, how about a learning curve? [02:40] knome, well, there can be two freaks no? [02:40] yes, go for it [02:40] install slackware [02:41] Raggs, nah, i don't think so, only one fits into a channel ;] [02:41] is slackware text based [02:41] and yet here we are knome, will the planet explode? [02:41] ...yes [02:41] alvin-laptop, the install is a little bit [02:41] alvin-laptop, i'd suggest stay with xubuntu a year or so, then start thinking about other alternatives [02:42] alvin-laptop, you will understand alot better linux [02:42] I would prefer to stay with Xubuntu until I get my head round things [02:42] alvin-laptop, xubuntu is very quick [02:42] what system specs are you running it on? [02:43] True, but I read an article some were that xubuntu is among one of the slowest xfce distro out there [02:44] alvin-laptop, i would agree from my experience, but when you take into account the user friendliness it evens out [02:44] Intel core 2 Duo 1.5Ghz (modile cpu), 4 gig ram, 64 bit system (what else could be better) [02:44] for example, Debian with the xfce4 desktop is much snappier than Xubuntu [02:44] alvin-laptop, more ram, better cpu? ;] [02:45] i would like 8G of ram [02:45] * knome is thinking of 16G [02:45] That would be nice but I can't replace my cpu (laptop) and I've maxed out my ram [02:46] my laptop came with 4G and is upgradeable to 8 [02:46] My machine actually boots faster with vista than my parents new i3 windows 7 laptop [02:46] when i have extra money [02:47] i have used vista, for about 3 days [02:47] Components can make a difference but I think it's more dependant on the OS. [02:48] People criticise vista but when I began tweaking it It ran insanely fast + it was great way to learn about an os [02:48] vista is much slower on the other laptop than 7 is [02:48] i learned using M.E. [02:49] which is arguably the worst windows OS ever [02:49] sorry, which is arguably the worst OS ever [02:50] Unfortunately like most windows based systems the machine is often restricted by various overheads e.g. aero , sidebar, unnecessary processes [02:50] and the whole windows is evil thing [02:51] I'm not really sure, it depends a lot on personal preference. For example, I don't actually mind vista [02:52] I think windows 7 is basically a cut down and revamped edition of vista anyway. There is no way they could develop an os from the ground up in such a small amount of time. [02:53] Marketing strategy - that all it was [02:53] knome - your thoughts [02:53] alvin-laptop, about? :) [02:54] window, life, the world etc [02:54] heh, well; i prefer the pre-xp OS's since they did not have that silly registeration stuff [02:54] alvin-laptop, never leave home without a towel [02:55] Yes, by the time I stripped down vista it actually looked like xp [02:55] Although vista has a better 64 bit support (naturally) [02:56] I think KNOME is falling a sleep on us =-O [02:56] no, not really, just watching a silly cooking movie on youtube [02:57] checkout cooking with coolio - funny stuff [02:57] alvin-laptop, this is why you should carry a towel http://pastebin.ca/1887463 [02:57] brb [03:00] I better head off also, nice talking to you Knome. I'm sure I'll see you soon. [03:00] alvin-laptop, i'm pretty sure also :) have a nice day [03:00] :-D [03:12] hello any1 here? [03:12] yup [03:13] i tried to install wine on my 10.04, but after the installation, it's no where to be found [03:13] fuyao, try alt+f2 and run "winefile" [03:13] i remember before in 8.04, after i finished installing, wine will appear in applications [03:13] ok [03:14] The command "winefile" failed to run: [03:14] Failed to execute child process "winefile" (No such file or directory) [03:15] hang on lemme try again [03:19] ya worked thank you [03:19] np [05:41] hey guys [05:41] hi Shamoun [05:41] what utility can i use in xubuntu to manage services that start with my pc? [05:42] System > Preferences > Startup Applications, you mean that? [05:44] Raggs, er, i don't seem to have that [05:44] maybe its different because its xubuntu and not ubuntu? [05:45] yep [05:45] realslix, so how can i get that in xubuntu? [05:46] i mean Raggs [05:46] i think it is there in the menus already [05:46] maybe you could just tell me the name of that utility and i can install it [05:46] look under system [05:47] i have looked and i don't see it [05:47] or anything close to it [05:47] there is an xfce settings which has a startup menu, but that is for a user login and not for a daemon [05:47] i am sure someone here who is running Xubuntu will be better help [06:08] how does this work with via chipset and grapics card? [06:10] you mean nvidia? [07:16] nope via [07:23] <_Techie_> has anyone in here had any experience with ATI cards in crossfire? [08:51] Hi. Where do I set keybindings for eg swapping workspaces? [08:56] <_Techie_> has anyone in here had any experience with ATI cards in crossfire? [09:32] How do I download sky through synaptic? [09:32] correction *skype* [09:32] !find sky [09:32] Found: beneath-a-steel-sky, berusky, berusky-data, pysycache-move-sky, skyeye (and 7 others) [09:32] !find skype [09:32] Found: pidgin-skype, pidgin-skype-dbg, python-skype [09:32] one moment [09:33] search in synaptic for skype [09:33] found skype python [09:33] !repos [09:33] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [09:33] and various other extentions [09:35] Is there no single package which contains the whole skype program [09:35] i don't use it sorry [09:36] it's a bit confusing - why can't they lable them more clearly! [09:36] I agree [09:36] I think I may be better of downloading it from the website directly [09:37] I shall take a look at the link ubotto [09:38] by the way - how do you guys respond directly to someone during chat [09:39] alvin-laptop: just using their nick is fine [09:39] !tab [09:39] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [09:39] let me try [09:40] so i click tab then on you name... is that it [09:40] hello [09:40] nope...didn [09:40] I type alv and hit the tab button and get alvin-laptop [09:40] alvin-laptop: [09:40] sweet [09:40] :] [09:40] well_laid_lawn: thanks [09:41] np :] alv [09:41] well_laid_lawn: didn't i speak to you this morning [09:41] alvin-laptop: wasn't me I was working [09:42] well_laid_lawn: perhaps some other time [09:42] maybe... I'm hre often alvin-laptop [09:42] s/hre/here [09:43] well_laid_lawn: what does that mean [09:44] alvin-laptop: it is a regular expression which means substitute here for hre [09:44] well_laid_lawn: you learn something new each day [09:44] :] [09:44] it is from sed and the like [09:44] !info sed [09:45] sed (source: sed): The GNU sed stream editor. In component main, is required. Version 4.2.1-6 (lucid), package size 172 kB, installed size 960 kB [09:45] ubottu: ? [09:45] !bot [09:45] Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins [09:46] well_laid_lawn: so ubottu isn't an actual person...correct? [09:46] alvin-laptop: it is an irc bot that has regular answers as factoids [09:46] !wifi [09:46] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [09:47] love it [09:47] :] [09:47] let me try [09:47] opensource [09:47] !messagethebot [09:47] Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [09:47] dam [09:47] heh :] [10:11] I just downloaded it from there site (skype) [10:12] just download it from their site - much quicker that way === __Anthony is now known as _Anthony [15:01] I'm so glad there's a slick calculator in XUBUNTU. [15:01] This installation just gives me the shivers. I can't believe I'm getting a SLICK CALCULATOR!!! [15:01] None of my other operating systems had one! I feel so special now. [15:02] Oh and sticking a link to an IRC channel DURING and installation isn't the smartest thing in worlf. [15:02] *world [15:02] You guys really need some help with installation marketing [15:02] 'Cuz this is horrible [15:03] this isn't developers channel [15:04] it's horrible anyway. Who cares if there is a slick calculator? [15:04] wait... wut? [15:04] xubuntu570, did you have a support question? [15:04] no I'm just griping, [15:05] shut up xubuntu570. [15:05] try #xubuntu-offtopic [15:05] the OS is good when you boot. [15:05] Sir_Konrad, that's not necessary [15:05] bazhang: dude come on. He's griping about a calculator? >_< [15:06] let's keep it civil and on topic please [15:35] what is the apt-get package name for kernel sources? [15:38] linux-headers-generic (for the kernel headers) and linux-source (for the actual source) i think [15:39] most of the time you only need the headers [15:39] you only need the sources if you are going to actually compile your own kernel, which i don't recommend [15:40] ok thanks ablomen. ;) [15:42] hi [15:42] can someone help me? [15:43] !help | JammieDodger [15:43] JammieDodger: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [15:43] Stfu you [15:43] * likemindead smells a troll. [15:43] i have a burning case of chlamidia [15:43] !ops [15:43] ops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville [15:43] what should i do? [15:43] IT BURRRRRRRRRRNS [15:43] eww [15:43] facepalm.jpg [15:44] huh [15:44] yay for Pici. [15:44] Agreed. [15:45] Unfortunately, this guy is making trouble in other channels as well. :( [15:46] FreeNode will give his IP a ban if he's banned from too many channels. \o/ [16:42] hello i came here for help once again [16:54] heh, three minutes [18:27] iOS 4 is out! [18:48] hello. can i ask question? or should i just ask? maybe no one is alive again..? [18:49] Kangarooo1: here I am. [18:49] i want to open .exe file in wine but i get error. but here is solution http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/05/31/the-file-pathfile-exe-is-not-marked-as-executable/ but in xubuntu i cant make this solution work.. [18:49] we're all grabbing our copies of iOS 4. ;) [18:50] so i need to make in file right click properties makes as executable- allow but in xubuntu i dont see that option for exe files.. [18:51] i can even send exe file thrue irc.. [18:53] Kangarooo1: you can start it from command line [19:02] anyone got a good tutorial site that can direct a noobie on xubuntu? [19:06] !desktop guide [19:08] kr4zy10: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html [19:08] TheSheep, that didn't work out, hm? [19:09] knome: one would expect it to be in there [19:10] then again, it's pretty much outdated [19:10] Wouldn't anything on Linux be a good start? Or is it just newb to the distro? [19:10] do we have some generic stuff on ubuntu manual? [19:12] !desktopguide [19:12] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [19:12] hmm... [19:15] is it bad to run the xubuntu desktop on ubuntu? [19:16] Raggs, no [19:16] hi knome glad to see your awake [19:16] ;) [19:17] I would like to offer help here when able however sometimes shockingly enough the question is Xfce4 related [19:17] Raggs, feel free to - just jump in and answer [19:17] i did last night after you crashed [19:17] heh [19:18] the question i couldnt answer, is there a gui to change startup apps in xubuntu? [19:19] settings → sessions & startup, if you ment that [19:20] Sysi: yeah, but i couldnt remember exaclty and the person coulnt find it [19:20] well, there is :) [19:22] Sysi: i dont doubt you [19:23] actually got wine installed and working, loving buntu [19:25] not on it atm however, on a school computer [19:45] thanks for the replies on the guides [20:51] is there any Xubuntu PPAs around? [20:59] gnomefreak: yeah, there is one from ~xubuntu-dev, if you want 4.7.x development releases [20:59] mr_pouit: do you have a link by chance so i dont forget [21:00] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa/+packages [21:00] mr_pouit: thanks much [22:17] hi [22:19] * likemindead waves. [23:23] Is muddleftp extinct, or am I just crazy? I'm looking for some documentation on it. [23:23] The man page is worthless, and the website "documentation" links are broken. [23:32] Is anyone here? [23:35] Yep. [23:35] !help [23:35] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [23:36] Must just be that no one knows about muddleftp. [23:36] (I've never heard of it, sorry.) [23:44] The question was on one line, the following line was to fend off any RTFM statements. [23:46] rt*m shouldn't exist in ubuntu channels [23:46] likemindead, neither have I, but the distro has been pushing me towards that package. [23:47] What does it do? [23:49] One wouldn't think, but I wouldn't expect 3 lines of angst for 2 questions. LOL [23:50] Actually, I misspelled, it's muddleftpd [23:50] It's an FTP daemon. [23:51] The home page was last updated in 2002. :-\ [23:52] Relevant? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/muddleftpd/1.3.13.1-4.2build2 [23:52] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?lang=uk&keywords=muddleftpd [23:53] Those help, IncrStorm? [23:53] ? [23:53] exit [23:57] Why is there a delay when you boot up xubuntu