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Afon_hello00:58
Afon_Hi I am trying to register the key of launchpad. there is a step to send the pub ID to keyserver.ubuntu.com.00:59
Afon_I have tried a few times. it shows: gpg: keyserver timed out00:59
Afon_gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error00:59
Afon_Could anyone suggest what to do? thank you.00:59
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Ddordahey, i tried to register a lp-l10n team few weeks ago and still no answer, can someone check this?06:41
jtvDdorda: team creation should be instantaneous.06:42
jtvOr are you talking about adding a translation team to the Launchpad translation group?06:42
Ddordafor now LP and some lp-l10n dependent projects are translated with google translate and this is BAD, i really want to fix this out, but can't.06:43
Ddordajtv: indeed06:43
jtvDdorda: LP is not translated at all.06:43
jtvAre you talking about people using Google to get translated versions of the UI?  That's scary.06:43
Ddordajtv: yes, and they use lp-l10n dependent, so i can't fix it until the team will be approved06:44
jtvDdorda: I'm having trouble understanding this part: "they use lp-l10n dependent"06:45
jtvAlso, what team exactly are we talking about & where did you propose it?06:45
Ddordajtv: sec i'll link you06:45
jtvthanks06:45
Ddordafound it! minute :)06:52
Ddordahttps://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/launchpad-translators06:52
Ddordacheck the end of the page06:52
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Ddordajtv: so to register the team i need to send a mail to the Launchpad Translators Coordinators, which i did06:55
Ddordaand got no answer for a long while now...06:55
jtvDdorda: and what was the team?07:07
Ddordalp-l10n-he07:07
jtvDdorda: I don't think I've seen your message anywhere.  More Europeans are coming online around now.  I'll have a look around to see if anyone knows more.07:27
Ddordajtv: odd, i'm 100% sure i've sent one =\07:27
jtvDdorda: but it's not a 100% reliable medium.  I'm sometimes tempted to discard all my email and claim a 100% spam recognition rate with only 1% or so false positives.07:28
Ddordajtv: well i don't blame anyone :)07:28
* jtv breathes sigh of relief :)07:29
Ddordai just want us to be approved to fix all the mess :D07:29
jtvYes, that sounds like a worthy goal.  :)  The people I'm hoping to ask aren't online yet, but should be soon.07:29
jtvhi dpm!07:36
dpmhey jtv!07:36
jtvdpm: I'm just talking to Ddorda here.  Did you see the emailed proposal to include lp-l10n-he in the LP translation group?07:37
dpmdpm, ah, yeah, that was a few days ago. Ddorda, sorry I haven't replied. Let me look at it now...07:38
Ddordafew days ago?07:38
Ddordaokay, okay, i won't even start :P07:39
jtvDdorda: remember what I said about email?  dpm probably gets a lot more.  :)07:39
Ddordajtv: i guess so :D07:41
dpmDdorda, are these your translation guidelines? -> http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/gezer/?q=rules07:44
Ddordadpm: indeed07:44
dpmDdorda, ok, added them as the guidelines and added the Hebrew team to the Launchpad Translators group. I see there is only one member, so you might want to contact other translators to join. It might be interesting to contact the Hebrew Ubuntu translators as a group of people already experienced in translations. In any case, welcome to the LP translators group and happy translating! :)07:47
Ddordadpm: i'm one of the organizers of Ubuntu-l10n-he07:47
Ddordadpm: and there's only me in the team as i didn't want people to join and wait07:48
Ddordai'll make sure people join right away!07:48
dpmDdorda, sounds good, then :)07:48
Ddordadpm: thanks a lot :)07:50
dpmDdorda, no worries, and sorry for the delay.07:51
Ddordadpm: it's okay, i just thought it didn't get to you07:51
dpmDdorda, it did indeed, the e-mail got to all LP translations coordinators, it's only that no one had had time to look into it yet. If there is any further issues requiring our attention and you find there is no response, please feel free to ping me directly. I'm usually here, in #ubuntu-translators and #ubuntu-community-team07:54
Ddordadpm: okay :)07:57
Ddordathanks07:57
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* Theuni1 waves08:29
jtvTheuni1: are you waving because you need help?  Or just waving in general?  :)08:33
Theuni1Just in general. I'm reading up on managing meetings with Launchpad. In the Zope community we started doing weekly meetings on IRC and we've been dealing with text files for managing the minutes and the agenda for quite a while but I find it to become unwieldy. I'm pondering using blueprints with sprints for that, but I need to figure out which project/project group to assign them to.08:35
jtvDepends on which project they're for, I guess.  :)08:35
Theuni1it's pretty independent :)08:36
Theuni1I kinda wish for a hierarchical project group structure, but then again the UI is complex already ;)08:36
Theuni1and a hierarchy wouldn't fit all of our cases anyway08:36
Theuni1we already have a "meta" project "zopetoolkit-project" in addition to the project group "zopetoolkit" itself, but that holds all the release engineering and over-arching technical issues08:38
Theuni1i'm pondering to create another meta project "zope-orga" which could hold organisational issues08:38
jtvTheuni1: if you try to break things down too much, you may end up making things harder than needed.  Consider naming or tagging conventions as a way to maintain order.08:39
Theuni1hmm08:39
Theuni1right.08:39
* Theuni1 thinks08:39
Theuni1then again blueprints don't have tags08:40
Theuni1can i assign bugs to sprints?08:40
Theuni1doesn't look like it08:41
jtvTheuni1: I'm not sure but I think the Ubuntu folks use milestones for those.08:47
Theuni1hmmm08:47
Theuni1hmm09:09
Theuni1jtv: it looks like the basic sprint data can't be edited after creation?09:09
jtvTheuni1: I've never done that tbh... the Launchpad people who would be best able to help with this are all in the US, so this may be something to ask again later in the day (or much earlier, depending).  But dpm or other ubuntu folks would know a thing or two.09:12
Theuni1sure09:12
Theuni1I'll stick around. :)09:12
Mezwhere would I find instructions on setting up a local copy of LP?10:03
Mezhttps://dev.launchpad.net/Running <--10:04
Mez*sigh*10:04
maxbsigh?10:12
Mezyeah, cause I search and search, then, as soon as I ask, I find it myself10:13
nigelbmaxb: I guess (s)he realized that "search and you shall find" :D10:13
maxb:)10:13
Mezthough to be honest, not too sure if that's what I want :D10:13
MezI remember a script that did the full install for you, etc etc10:13
jtvMez: that's on the Getting page IIRC10:13
maxbrocketfuel-setup?10:14
Mezhmmles ....10:14
jtvSee the "Get the source code" link on the front page.10:14
Mezmaybe it's just the way LP works - but there's a lot of "make" commands to be run10:15
Mezfor general usage10:15
jtvmake ; make run10:15
jtvor if you want to enable a bunch of extra services, "make ; make run_all"10:15
Mezmake sync_branches10:16
jtvThat's pretty specialized, I think.  You don't need it just to get an LP running.10:16
MezI actually just want the codehosting bit to be honest ;)10:16
wgrantMost of the Makefile targets are just shortcuts that start up a few LP bits and pieces, run a cronscript here and there...10:17
jtvAh!10:17
Mezthough, I doubt it'll fix the retardedness of some of the people here....10:17
Mezthey'll still try and check in from the same user account10:17
Mez"lets all log into the box and develop using the same username"10:18
spivDeploying Launchpad's codehosting would be overkill for most places, I'd think.10:27
spivCompared to e.g. SSH keys restricted to running bzr on a subdirectory via the bzr_access script in contrib/.10:28
spivThere is a bit of middle-ground between those two that isn't hugely well catered for, though.10:29
wgrantI've occasionally been tempted to rip Codehosting out and stick it in front of a simpler DB.10:29
wgrantIt'd be very handy.10:30
Mezwgrant: do it :D10:46
Mezspiv: possibly overkill, but it'd work nicely...10:46
MezThe main issue we have at the moment is that 1) people are all using the same login (so all the permissions are screwed) and 2) the permissions are screwed, even with sticky bit and chmod g+rw on a cron10:47
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pijuhello12:28
pijui have already deleted all of my PPA12:29
pijuwhy i still cant change my user name for lauchpad ?12:29
maxbPPA 'deletion' doesn't really delete them, just hides them quite well12:32
bigjoolspiju: you need to wait 10 minutes12:33
bigjoolsthen you will be able to rename12:33
pijubigjools, you again ? thanks buddy12:33
maxboh, that got fixed :-)12:33
* bigjools is here to serve12:33
pijuyou are like robot. never sleep12:33
bigjoolsmy wife says the same thing12:34
pijubigjools, all PPAs are turning to grey12:34
pijuneed to wait for 10minutes ?12:34
pijuThis user has an active PPA with packages published and may not be renamed.12:36
bigjoolspiju: keep trying, it'll work soon12:36
bigjoolswhich PPA?12:36
pijubigjools, all12:36
pijuhttps://launchpad.net/~mypiju/12:36
pijui want to change from mypiju to piju12:36
bigjoolspiju: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mypiju/+archive/psk31lx-9w2pju is disabled, not deleted12:37
pijuwait12:38
bigjoolsthe other PPAs have gone12:38
pijubigjools, ok done12:39
pijuall PPA are deleted!12:39
bigjoolspiju: ok wait a minute or two12:39
bigjoolspiju: when http://ppa.launchpad.net/mypiju/ is empty, you can rename12:39
pijuthanks bigjools12:43
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mtaylorsoren: hey- I have to be on a plane during the DMB meeting today13:04
sorenmtaylor: :(13:04
mtaylorsoren: yeah. not happy about that :(13:05
mtaylorsoren: ooh! nevermind...13:11
sorenmtaylor: Heh :)13:13
cakofonyIs there any way to get the "uses launchpad for" information out of the api (launchpadlib)?14:33
nigelbcakofony: can you explain further?14:51
cakofonyOn project pages, it says "uses launchpad for:" and then lists things such as answers, bugs, development etc14:53
cakofonyI was wondering if I could get that information from the api14:53
nigelbcakofony: hm, I think not, but you can always ask in #launchpad-dev to confirm14:55
cakofonynigelb: Alright, thanks!14:55
DeeJay1hi, I think I have borked samarium, one thing is still building (for 3 hours now) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~deejay1/+recipe/daily/+build/6015:07
purveshcan some one help me to register on wiki.ubuntu.com15:10
nigelbpurvesh: register on LP and then try to login to wiki using your open ID15:10
purveshnigelb, ya i had tried but m getting one error so that i cant register on wiki...15:12
purveshnigelb, can i show u error if u dont mind15:12
nigelbsure15:13
nigelbpurvesh: wait15:13
nigelbyour LP time zone is set to Asia/Kolkata?15:13
nigelbif so, change to some other zone and try again15:13
purveshnigelb, ya15:13
purveshnigelb, ok .... i ll try wt a sec15:13
nigelbits a known bug, change your TZ to some other TZ, something like UTC15:14
jaaltoIs it possible to subscribe to announcements of some "product"; similar to freshement.net ?15:14
nigelbjaalto: if you're looking for one particular project, you can subscribe to 'Announcements' section via RSS15:16
jaaltonigelb: I'm more looking for email messages, like freshmenta.net sends. Is this available?15:17
nigelbjaalto: not that I know of, but I may be wrong too :)15:17
nigelbjaalto: to give you an example, you can see the ubuntu rss feeds http://feeds.launchpad.net/ubuntu/announcements.atom15:18
jaaltonigelb: Yup, but that requires browser. I'm packaging software and I'd like to get announcements via email when new "announcement" is put in launchpad. Too bad if this feature is not available15:19
* nigelb isn't sure if that feature is available15:20
jcastroderyck: ping a ling sir15:21
nigelbmorning jcastro :)15:22
nigelbdid you see that debian derivates front desk is now open? :)15:22
jcastroI saw!15:25
deryckjcastro, hi.  on call.  available shortly.15:26
jcastrono worries, just ping me whenevs15:26
nigelbjcastro: I'm hugely grateful for zack, he's very friendly :)15:26
exarkunI just created a new milestone, and the result seems to be that https://launchpad.net/pyopenssl/main now has two "pyOpenSSL 0.9" versions listed.15:59
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JoshBrownCan someone explain to me how branch merging works? I've been merging branches in a small project, but I'm not sure if I've been doing it the 'right' way.17:39
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abhi_navif some one submits a solution to a bug problem with new code then is it reliable?17:54
abhi_nav??17:55
abhi_navanyone here?17:56
abhi_nav:(17:57
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maxbJoshBrown: Hi. If your question is purely Bazaar-related, you might find #bzr has more people that can help.19:08
maxbOtherwise, clarify what it is you want help with19:08
JoshBrownmaxb: I want to know stuff like 'Do I copy the entire branch content, or just the file I'm going to modify?'19:10
exarkunJoshBrown: That's probably purely bzr related19:11
exarkunJoshBrown: in general you can only branch everything, though.  it's not like svn where all your branches live inside the same hierarchy.19:11
maxbJoshBrown: I'm pretty confused - I don't understand what you think you'd be copying19:13
JoshBrownSay I want to modify a file in a projects's bazaar branch - how do I do it?19:16
maxbYou just modify it19:18
JoshBrownmaxb: I can't, you have to make a new branch and then merge into it.19:47
maxbhuh?19:48
maxbI'm sorry, you are going to have to describe what the problem you are having is in more detail.19:48
maxbAnd doing it on #bzr may get you more answers.19:48
JoshBrownmaxb: Well I can't just push my changes directly to the main branch?19:49
exarkunWhy not?19:49
maxbIf you have access to do so, you can19:49
maxbAnd if you don't, I'm still not understanding where you feel stuck19:49
JoshBrownmaxb: This isn't a bazaar issue, I know exactly how to use bazaar, I just don't know how Bazaar integrates with Launchpad.19:49
maxbLaunchpad hosts Bazaar branches and provides nice web-based ways to browse and organize them. That's it.19:50
JoshBrownmaxb: Well I could, but I'm supposed to submit a merge proposal so the project leader can decide if the changes are okay.19:50
maxbSo, push your branch to Launchpad and create a merge proposal19:50
JoshBrownmaxb: What command do I use to make my branch though? So far I've been using 'bzr new' - but I thought perhaps that isn't the 'right' way to do things..?19:52
* maxb looks up what bzr new does19:52
exarkun'bzr new'?19:52
maxbApparently it's something funky from bzr-explorer19:53
lifelessJoshBrown: it doesn't matter how you make your branch - bzr new is fine19:54
lifelessJoshBrown: once you have it, you push it to launchpad19:54
maxbJoshBrown: See, now you're wandering back towards pure-bzr territory. I don't use 'bzr new' myself, but I don't see why it shouldn't be one of many valid ways to work19:54
lifelessJoshBrown: to lp:~$USER/$PROJECT/$BRANCHNAME19:55
JoshBrownmaxb: What do you use?19:55
maxbUsually bzr init-repo and bzr branch19:55
JoshBrownlifeless: But do you copy the entire branch or just the files you're modifying?19:55
lifelessJoshBrown: I don't copy anything19:55
lifelessJoshBrown: I run 'bzr push lp:~my-username/my-projectname/mybranchname19:56
lifelessI'm sure bzr explorer has a push option in its GUI for you to use19:56
JoshBrownWhat I've been doing: Pull main branch, copy any files I plan on modifying to a new branch, modify the files, upload branch. I was just wondering if this is an efficient way to go about branching?19:57
maxbThis "copy any files I plan on modifying to a new branch" sounds very wrong - why do you do that?19:58
maxbIf you mean what I think you mean you are defeating pretty much the entire point of using bzr at all19:59
JoshBrownmaxb: Exactly my point - it seems weird, but I don't know how else to go about it. Perhaps I should be using this 'bzr branch' command.19:59
lifelessJoshBrown: when you say copy any files20:00
lifelessJoshBrown: do you mean an operating system file copy, or some bzr command ?20:00
JoshBrownlifeless: Just a standard Unix cp20:00
lifelessok20:01
lifelessyou definitely want to use branch20:01
lifelessthe init command, which I suspect 'new' is a wrapper for20:01
lifelessmakes a brand new *project*20:01
lifelessyou should only ever run it once per project.20:01
lifelessever20:01
lifelessthe 'branch' command makes new branches20:01
lifelessyou should run it every time you want a new branch of an existing project.20:01
JoshBrownAh.20:02
JoshBrownSo I should be doing: Branch, modify, push, merge.20:03
lifelessyes20:03
lifelesswith a commit between modify and push probably ;)20:03
JoshBrownlifeless: Yeh, that'd be a good idea =)20:05
dtwoodI am trying to file a bug in krb5-auth-dialog, and I have filed the bug against '“krb5-auth-dialog” source package in Maverick', and another bug in GNOME bugzilla, but I do not have the option to link them, as there is no project for krb5-auth-dialog in launchpad. How can I link these?21:46
dtwoodsorry if this is the wrong place to ask21:47
JoshBrowndtwood: Could you give us a link?21:48
dtwoodJoshBrown: (should I always put the name of the person I'm talking to like this, I'm new to this?) yeah sure - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=krb5-auth-dialog21:49
JoshBrownIn most IRC clients when you say someone's name (dtwood), it gives that user some kind of alert and highlights the message. So it's helpful to use names in most cases.21:52
dtwoodJoshBrown: ah thanks, that makes sense21:54
JoshBrowndtwood: Looks like there is no upstream package, I think you should create one although I can't be 100% sure because I've never had this issue before.21:57
JoshBrownhttps://launchpad.net/projects/+new21:59
dtwoodJoshBrown: I've created that at https://launchpad.net/krb5-auth-dialog, what should I do next?22:00
JoshBrownWow, I just saw that pop up on Launchpad :P22:01
dtwoodok, where did you see that?22:02
JoshBrowndtwood: Click 'Also affects project', then enter the URL for your bugzilla bug.22:02
dtwoodJoshBrown: ok, I presumed that it had to be linked to the GNOME bugzilla or similar22:05
dtwoodJoshBrown: yep, that's linked now :) thanks22:05
JoshBrownRight, I'll be off now. If anything I said was wrong you can contact me at ~joshbrown - bye22:06
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JoshBrown:)22:06
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