[00:28] !ops [00:28] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, or nhandler! [00:29] hurmm [00:29] Testing... please excuse that. [00:29] LOL Dark [00:29] "oops" [00:29] uh [00:30] goddamnit collinp [00:30] I broke it :(. [00:30] We are "testing" [00:33] !irc [00:33] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [00:33] =] [00:40] bodhi_zazen, Thank you for covering while the team was in a meeting =] Superstar === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes === DarkNemesis_ is now known as DarkNemesis === DarkNemesis_ is now known as DarkNemesis [02:40] !info ghostscript | SimonP86 [02:40] nUboon2Age: SimonP86: ghostscript (source: ghostscript): The GPL Ghostscript PostScript/PDF interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 8.71.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5.1 (lucid), package size 766 kB, installed size 3404 kB [02:41] nUboon2Age: thanks :) [02:42] SimonP86: don't know if that's exactly what you meant... some versions use "ghostview filename.extension &" to start at terminal [02:42] ghostview filename.extension & [02:45] ghostscript filenmae.extension & seems to work for me [02:45] but ghostview filename.extension & doesn't === mohi57o9 is now known as mohi1 === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [08:18] hey guys [08:19] hi jimisrvrox [08:41] Evening everyone [08:41] hey bigleon [08:43] will not having a swap file create ubuntu to behave abnormally (slow installs and the like) even though i got 4gigs of ram? [08:44] I need to do a reboot Brb 2-5mins [08:49] back [08:49] welcome back bigleon :) and you are in lucid right!! [08:49] correct [08:50] and your installs lag a bit? [08:50] increidbly soo [08:50] Took me roughly 15 minutes to install quassel [08:50] Ican't imagine Qua being any bigger than 50mb's and with a 2mb downstream it wasn't the fault of my connection [08:51] I also seem to have a worrysome amount of missing icons. [08:51] in the menus or on your desktop? [08:51] In menus "places" [08:51] all icons for documents music etc are Missing [08:52] i'm also missing a random one in my systems folder [08:52] personal filing sharing app... [08:52] are they maybe just taking a while to show up? they have to load the first time the menu is displayed after you restart [08:52] ahha [08:53] How long do you think it takes to load a "Folder" img O-o? [08:53] bigleon, see preferences-> main menu for all menu items [08:53] it usually takes 1-2 seconds for me, just wondering if it's a speed issue or something else [08:53] it's open. [08:54] mohi1: you got this one then? it's 4am so i'd like to get to bed :) [08:55] well i popped up update manager it has 190 suggestions i should DL [08:55] ddecator, ok ;) [08:55] thanks mohi1 :) [08:55] goodnight everyone, and good luck bigleon [08:55] gonna start that in background... i created a swap so i'm hoping it will not behave like quassel install. [08:56] bigleon, open up terminal and type ping www.google.com [08:56] and pastebing the result [08:56] Ping ranges from 40ms to 110ms [08:57] updates are downloading at 2000kb/s [08:58] mohi1 it's installing the differnet packages and appears to be running at what i would expect. so would it be reasonble to say no swap file = Gurgling Ubuntu? [09:00] yeah it seems to be breezing through install it'll pop through 5-10 updates and pause on one for about 10-30 seconds then move on. [09:02] welcome back mohi1 [09:03] sorry bigleon a reboot === Silver_Fox_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-beginners to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Beginners Team support channel || Please do not wait to ask questions, simply ask! If anyone knows the answer, they will most likely reply. || Please note, public logs of this channel are available on irclogs.ubuntu.com || Want offtopic? Head over to #ubuntu-beginners-team || [09:03] ...Much better... [09:03] heya Silver_Fox_ [09:03] bigleon, you pastebin'ed it? [09:04] np, ping was 40-110 and my update downloads where breezing by at 2000kb/s It appears that my ubuntu is behaving a little more normal [09:05] i'm hoping update will fix my log in screen... I'd love to see a password box instead of a glitched login interface. [09:05] hmm ok bigleon [09:06] i've been using wubi last 2 days and i've never had login interface glitch... it makes me nervous thinking maybe my install was corrupted at very least in a small way. [09:07] I've been having major networking problems with my broadcom... they said my best bet was to ahead and partion out a spot for ubuntu. === compiledkernel is now known as Guest32331 [09:12] I got a bunch fo "unknown media type in 'all/allfiles' and slue of diffent file names...s hould i be worried? [09:15] got a reboot incoming brb [09:22] ugh this install is crap i'm gonna order live cd and just wait on that so i know i got a good disc... [12:27] does anyone know how to use sg_write_same ? [12:28] * Puck` never heard of it [12:28] it is the trim tool for kernel 2.6.34 [12:29] friggin SSDs are a nightmare... [13:47] How to config Huawei Technologies E620 USB Modem in lucid [14:01] Need help formatting hard drive [14:02] Can anyone provide assitance? [14:03] hi ironreaper. What kind of assitance? [14:04] I need to reformat the drive to NFTS, Using the disk utlilty provided on ubuntu [14:04] I tried Gparted but it seems way over my head [14:05] ironreaper: may I ask why? There may be easier ways to do it, and did you do this before with any type of application? [14:06] No I have not, I bought windows 7 full installation and it says my HD needs to be in NFTS format, If you can help me with this it will be very appreciated. [14:07] ironreaper: so you wish to install windows 7 next to ubuntu? [14:07] No, Erase ubuntu and put Windows 7 over it. [14:07] ironreaper: in that case use windows 7 and when you install it use the entire disk, that will solve everything, but it's a sad to know that you wish to erase ubuntu [14:08] Well I tried that, Windows 7 will not install due to the fact that my hard drive is not in the correct format [14:08] just boot from the Windows 7 DVD and follow the installation steps, and when you're asked for partitioning, make sure it uses your entire hard drive and it formats it [14:09] I will try that again, if I have to I will go into the bios and do it from there [14:09] ironreaper: you need to erase the hard drive 1st, which can be done with the windows 7 installer, at least that's how i know, i don't have much experience installing windows 7, you may want to talk to someone who know about it more, here we deal wih ubuntu usually [14:09] ironreaper: there's not much you can do in the bios [14:09] How to config Huawei Technologies E620 USB Modem in lucid any one plz help me....... [14:09] Alright, Thank you. [14:09] ironreaper: my pleasure [14:11] pjarnahom: did you visit this pagE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358615 ? [14:15] Puck`, i did but it's not working !!! [14:17] Puck`, i need to config modem in lucid [14:20] meh meh i never worked with usb modems [14:21] pjarnahom: try sticking around and aks your question a bit later when more people are around [14:32] pjarnahom: here are a couple of links that were of help to me when setting up my Veizon usb760: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2048477#post2048477 [14:32] and... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002262&highlight=verizon+usb760 [14:33] usb modem support is any area the Ubuntu could do better in IMHO [14:33] *an [14:36] iceflatline, thanks lemme try [15:48] > ubuntu says root is not installed and when I try to install it from bin It says it cannot be found. I get the error "unable to find schema for key daemon default session" on startup. Any ideas on what to do? [16:44] Hey guys, I need a program that rotates the orientation of the touch pad on my laptop. [16:45] I want my touchpad to function when I've rotated my screen === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [17:04] hello Fanshawe [17:26] hello DejaVu [17:26] what's up zkriesse [17:27] DejaVu: Apparently not much [17:28] zkriesse everything going to be Ok, no worries [17:28] lol [17:30] Look at me, i switched to ubuntu - happy like a 5 years old child. You will be fine too [17:30] Ah new to Ubuntu then? [17:30] like 4 month, but still noobie [17:31] awesome [17:32] sorry didn't switch earlier [17:32] Lol.....not a problem [17:33] still have to use windows at work =( [17:34] no holly wars - sorry [17:40] afternoon all [18:01] hello hre [18:01] hello anothernewbi [18:02] when I boot up ubuntu for the first time root is not installed and when I try to boot it from paste.bin terminal says it cannot be found [18:03] were the same newbie try other channel [18:03] nobody ever bothered to reply in the main channel [18:05] ok..when u download ur ubuntu lucid....and burning it tru Cd...it is not corrupted.. [18:05] how many os ur using in your computer..... [18:06] Probaly should have mentioned that I have windows xp on the hardrive and I was using ubuntu off a pendrive with the universal installer [18:07] ok i got it your style......by the way i never use the universal installer......u can partition first your usb or pendrive...try [18:07] I actually got it working earlier but somebody hacked the installation and installed spyware so I decided to reinstall and install a bunch of security progams before connecting to the internet [18:08] Well I formatted the usb drive [18:09] i was experience that especially in program downloading tru internet...i was hacked or have a malaware suspect..it is trojan.....my question is ...are u using windows xp while downloading of os for pendrive... [18:09] Yes I used xp to download the ubuntu iso off of the main website [18:10] You think spy ware on my windows xp is messing up the installation? [18:11] gooodd...just burning image to CD...first...just follow the instruction of usb how to.........mostly their is problem in the usb when your install the os of ubuntu [18:11] how many years that you active in linux or other distro... [18:12] about 2 weeks [18:12] anothernewbie....it is better to go on self study....back to basic then reinstall again...it is better to use linux os than using it windows vista why installing... [18:13] zkriesesess...welcome back help this anothernewbie...... [18:13] anothernewbie....it is better to go on self study....back to basic then reinstall again...it is better to use linux os than using it windows xp why installing... [18:32] Hallo [18:33] mathay..filipino [18:33] ronaldo_: actually no, hahaha. I've always wondered if someone would ask me that though. [18:34] ok... ur newbie in ubuntu [18:34] ronaldo_: nope. I used to be on the team but my membership expired and I didn't want to renew. [18:35] what do you mean expired in your team..in ubuntu... [18:35] The Beginners Team. [18:36] The channel we're in now. :) [18:36] hello again ronaldo_ [18:36] hey mathay long time no see dude [18:36] meaning that your not to offer a free service......how many year in u in The Beginners Team-----a member who must be give a free advice [18:36] zkriese....... [18:36] ronaldo_: I was in it about a year. Maybe a little more? Or maybe 6 months? I don't really remember. [18:37] zkriesse: I know! I finally decided to reinstall XChat. [18:37] zkriesse: how have you been? [18:38] why you comeback and re install of Xchat meaning do you want to serve more newbie here [18:38] mathay: ah been ok [18:38] mathay: Planning College stuff [18:40] i believe that before you become a member of a The Beginners Team...that you must have a qualified...or pass the examinations in ubunut os [18:41] ronaldo_: you're presented with a small quiz before being able to join. It is a good idea though. [18:41] zkriesse: very nice, very nice. Have you chosen where you want to go? [18:42] mathay: Well I want to join the Army (Combat Medic) but I need 15 college credits...So I'm going to take some classes that will apply to such a venture [18:42] mathay - Superb blog you have [18:43] i thought mostly users of ubuntu os would like to become linux Guru or Programmers...i shock that you zkriesse wanted to become an Army .... [18:44] ronaldo_: Heh... [18:44] zkriesse: that's very admirable. Dangerous too. Be safe! [18:44] thanks mathay [18:45] so ronaldo_ learning anything yet? [18:46] mathay...are u an ubuntu OS expert or programmers.......here in SAudi Arabia , working as a Computer Operator but I'am very interested in linux OS....but i still learning more.. [18:46] zkriesse.....be careful.... [18:46] ronaldo_: eh, nope. The Ubuntu OS is supposed to be accessible. The level of sophistication one wants is really dependent one one's interest. [18:47] ronaldo_: I'm probably in the middle. I know how to program a little and know my way around a terminal. [18:47] oh mathay don't lie... [18:47] ronaldo_: mathay is just being shy [18:47] ronaldo_: he's in fact super awesome [18:48] gud....i focus and concentrate in CLI---especially the commands.......but more perservarance .......and dedicated to learn...especially in our company or my fellow employess..nbody use an Ubuntu OS or other distro... [18:49] lol, zkriesse, I'm not entirely sure about that. Thank you though! [18:49] lol [18:50] ronaldo_: the perks of using Linux far outweighs the negative aspects. [18:50] really zkriesse...... i feeling today that while reading the command manual and try to experiment or practice in CLI..... [18:51] what do you mean mathay ...what is the negative side............... [18:52] ronaldo_: to be honest, I can't think of anything. Maybe hardware compatibility when switching from Microsoft? Maybe? [18:52] mathay: and even that can be rare [18:53] zkriesse: totally. I felt like I had to be fair. :p [18:55] do u know.....many people easily to give up ..... i believe linux is more problem to be face.....is like to go alone by yourself to learn....tru practice , reading ,and chatting....u cannot get on the spot the answer especially in urgent basis.. [18:58] ronaldo_: to a degree. If one goes to the Ubuntu Forums then most problems can be solved. It's true, one isn't relying on customer service; what's in place of the customer service is a community that is extremely helpful. Far more helpful than customer service, to be honest. [18:59] When I had Vista I encounter a problem that was within the OS. I'm still not sure what happened but it made the system inoperable. I had no choice but to switch. [18:59] Customer service was absolutely appalling. The operators basically said I just had to "deal with it." [19:01] yes....that is true... I undesrtand the other side....meaning you need to learn by ourself......hardware , software , program etc.... this is the essence of learning ...don't stop believing ... [19:01] also w/ vnc, nx or TeamViewer you can get remote assistance in Linux and probably many more folks from the community who would be willing/able to help. [19:04] ronaldo_: definitely. Especially when most people sit in front of a computer all day. People become helpless when faced with a problem. [19:04] and never never give up.........the greatest character of linux users that i believe.....is VERY RESOURCEFUL.... [19:04] ronaldo_: definitely. :) [19:04] now we have not only the power inherent in the CL, but the gui tools have gotten to the point where you can do most of what you need to do there and this makes it accessible to SO MANY more people. [19:06] YES i experienced that.....mathay.... i was became helpless .....so the question is WHAT IS THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU BECAME HELPLESS...... [19:07] ronaldo_: one thing i think is doing what you're doing now. talk it over w/ others. [19:07] back to basic....be more resourceful ..never give up.....the more you hardwork ....the more you learn...... [19:08] nUboon2Age.... yes i'am open minded to the others...i thanks to them...the more i read there problem.....i learn from there problem.... [19:11] now i understand why the newbie linux users got easily to give up.........by the way thanks your advice and comments....mathay and nUboon2Age [19:12] ronaldo_: I think when they really get into it, they love it. That's how I was. [19:12] No problem, ronaldo_ :) [19:14] i feel that I COMPETE TO MYSELF TO LEARN A LOT......in linux .... is like to learn and share later on to the community.....is like a Priest or Preacher.....after learning a bible later on he share the words of God .....just i feeling now.. [19:15] ronaldo_: the one place i think can be tough in Linux is when you're isolated. For instance if you can't (for whatever reason) get an internet connection, AND you have no relevant resource books/ebooks available to you AND you don't have access to any Linux tinkerers. Similarly if you didn't know about the forums, didn't know about these irc support channels (or didn't know how to use irc), that's a time when [19:15] you could be in a similar place of isolation. [19:17] Since knowledge of Windoze stuff is fairly widespread chances are you could take the machine to a shop and get it 'fixed', whereas in Linux, not so much and that is where people need to know about the on-line resources. [19:19] ronaldo_: i'm not sure if its a good thing, but I feel a similar sense of mission about Ubuntu as what you're describing. I feel like Ubuntu (and Gnu/Linux generally) is a force of liberation that needs to be spread. [19:19] absolutely nUboon2Age..........i know that.....every problem there is an opportunity to learn and sacrifice......i understand that... [19:20] i know the mission of Ubuntu....... [19:22] thanks your linux-spiritual messages and comments.... [19:28] hey hobgoblin ! [19:28] o/ [19:30] hobgoblin: how goes it? [19:30] tired,bored and reading a book [19:39] hello phillw and primuspilus [19:47] every time i reboot the "Keep Aligned" setting for the desktop is set back to true. is there a way to keep it off? [19:49] angus_: ah there should be...i'm gonna look it up [19:50] i had a look in gconf but didn't find anything [19:50] then again i'm not great at finding that kind of stuff [19:55] angus_: nothing yet....i don't know if it can be done though [19:58] i just found a bug for it [19:58] and the gconf key [19:58] but it isn't fixed [19:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/399974 [19:58] Launchpad bug 399974 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "'Keep Aligned' option always resets to 'true' after desktop reload (affects: 42) (dups: 3) (heat: 216)" [Low,Triaged] [20:00] ronaldo_, try asking here. :) [20:00] the other channel is not a support channel. [20:01] ok.....why after installing ubuntu.......i created 2 users account...me for root accout .....guest users account.....the problem i saw is.....why in guest account i view and see the local drive...when i using root accout i cannot see the local drive [20:01] ok.....why after installing ubuntu.......i created 2 users account...me for root accout .....guest users account.....the problem i saw is.....why in guest account i view and see the local drive...when i using root accout i cannot see the local drive [20:02] angus_, then you should see the current workaround for it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/399974/comments/42 [20:02] Launchpad bug 399974 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "'Keep Aligned' option always resets to 'true' after desktop reload (affects: 42) (dups: 3) (heat: 216)" [Low,Triaged] [20:03] ronaldo_, what is your main account's name? [20:04] (the admin account for you) [20:05] +ibuclaw: don't know how i missed that [20:05] thanks [20:05] no probs [20:06] reyesonly@yahoo.com [20:06] ok... === Puck` is now known as Guest21849 [20:58] HI TEAM!!! [20:58] * zkriesse loves this tea [21:31] hello seidos Amblix and jmburgess [21:31] hell zkriesse [21:31] seidos: what about it [21:32] s/hell/hello [21:32] zkriesse, though hell may or may not exist, I haven't decided :| [21:33] lol [21:33] hello [21:36] installing ubuntu 10.04 on old machine using CD boot - what is an example of a priority=medium installation menu that I'd see versus leaving priority=high? more urgent problem is that I can't try it because I haven't been able to figure out where to effectively enter boot options/params like priority=medium - trying to figure out if I should even bother and if default priority=high would be fine [21:36] ubuntu 10.04 desktop variant if it matters [22:05] AHAHA! [22:53] installing ubuntu 10.04 on old machine using CD boot - what is an example of a priority=medium installation menu that I'd see versus leaving priority=high? more urgent problem is that I can't try it because I haven't been able to figure out where to effectively enter boot options/params like priority=medium - trying to figure out if I should even bother and if default priority=high would be fine [22:55] I think one should press space very early during boot of the ubuntu10.04 live cd... isn't there a small human symbol at the bottom of the screen... I might be mistaken though [22:57] http://iainbuclaw.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/screenshot-10.png [22:57] but if I guess right, then you get the old kind of menu that ubuntu allways started with. and you can press F5 to change parameters and such... [22:57] I'm not sure that wallpaper suits it... :\ [22:58] ibuclaw: what is the X-icon? the background looks like a bar chart :-P [23:00] Amblix, priority= I presume must be the debconf option [23:00] high meaning only ask you high priority questions [23:01] medium meaning ask you medium and high priority question. [23:01] low mean ask all questions. [23:01] bobo123, X-icon ? [23:02] you mean X-chat ? [23:14] aha ok. [23:15] now when I know, I do see that is written chat with grey on it too :-) [23:17] yes, when I boot from CD, I hit a key on the first boot display (with the keyboard/human icons) and it brings me to an menu with an 'install' menu option. I can press F6 here and bring up a text line below the menu containing the default 'Boot Options' [23:18] however, when I add "priority=medium" at the end of the line (w/o quotes), I don't see any additional menu items appear versus the situation where run installation of ubuntu from cd with default boot options/params (ie. priority=high or critical - I forget which is the default) [23:23] okay, so I have kind of a strange problem [23:24] after upgrading to 10.04, suspend works between my home and my office [23:24] but after suspending at my office and coming home, it reboots instead of coming out of suspend [23:24] and every time networking is disabled, and my proxy settings are still set to my work settings [23:24] even though I changed my proxy settings back to "default" before I suspended at the office [23:24] has anyone encountered this before? It's almost like it's restoring from some old settings that are nevery being overwritten [23:28] bobo123, how about http://iainbuclaw.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/screenshot-1.png ? [23:28] :) [23:33] ;) [23:35] Amblix, is the the GUI installation? [23:38] yeah [23:38] although i originally thought that the priority changes would take effect with the command line install and not in the graphical install [23:41] which, after this 5th graphical re-install, i'm starting to think that's correct [23:43] i'm basically looking to see if I can open up a more detailed menu system during the install process in order to have more control over the configuration being installed - this is my first linux distro install since gentoo several years ago. The(graphical) install of ubuntu was so fast compared to tedious/detailed gentoo installs i ran in the past that I'm wondering if i'm missing out on anything controllable in the install process [23:43] i was thinking maybe the "priority=medium" boot option/parameter for the ubuntu installer might be what i'm looking for? [23:44] at the same time when I enter the graphical install and then hit 'esc' to get to a command line 'boot' prompt, I can't figure out what command/syntax to enter there to begin the install (with or without boot params) [23:52] hey guys im trying to dual boot xubuntu and xp for a friend of mine and im in Gparted but the whole disk is flagged as boot and so im trying to part it in half to install xubuntu...' [23:52] and so its not allowing me to resize the partition [23:54] jimisrvrox: did you boot up from the Live CD? [23:54] duanedesign: yeah I did [23:56] jimisrvrox: is the windows partition mounted? you can unmount it from gparted i think [23:56] duanedesign: I suppose it is mounted...I was thinking about removing the boot flag to see if I could resize it..also should I just go into XP and resize it from there? [23:57] duanedesign: it is the only partition showing [23:58] oh [23:59] ibuclaw: yes that one is nice [23:59] duanedesign: status showing not mounted