| === paultag_ is now known as paultag | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 07:00 |
|---|---|---|
| jussi | *yawn* | 07:08 |
| dholbach | hola ara, hey jussi | 07:20 |
| ara | morning dholbach | 07:23 |
| * nigelb yawns too | 07:25 | |
| dholbach | hey nigelb :) | 07:27 |
| dholbach | how's life in sunny India? | 07:27 |
| nigelb | dholbach: as usual :) | 07:28 |
| dholbach | that's everything? "as usual"? :) | 07:29 |
| nigelb | heh | 07:30 |
| nigelb | well, busy with work, but free enough for irc :) | 07:30 |
| nigelb | AND waiting for my laptop to come back from the shop | 07:31 |
| dholbach | still? | 07:31 |
| dholbach | poor Nigel | 07:31 |
| nigelb | now you know why patch review didn't move last week ;) | 07:32 |
| dholbach | hey dpm | 07:35 |
| dpm | morning dholbach :) | 07:36 |
| dpm | good morning all! | 07:36 |
| ara | morning dpm | 08:01 |
| dpm | hola ara | 08:05 |
| dholbach | hola randa_ | 09:36 |
| randa_ | hola dholbach! | 09:39 |
| === ara_ is now known as ara | ||
| Pendulum | akgraner: ping | 12:26 |
| paultag | hey doctormo, poke | 14:17 |
| dholbach | hey jono | 14:36 |
| jono | hey dholbach | 14:37 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I'll mark the daily builds work item concerning "write up something awesome" as INPROGRESS | 15:30 |
| jcastro | yeah | 15:30 |
| nigelb | dholbach: shall we attack pedro re: hug day for patches? | 15:30 |
| jcastro | dholbach: really all I need is to test it once they tell us it's working and then I am ready to go about an hour after that | 15:31 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I think it's "almost working now" :) | 15:31 |
| paultag | speaking of daily builds, who do I have to yell at to try and port debian live to ubuntu live ? | 15:31 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I think we can always tweak the docs later on | 15:32 |
| dholbach | jcastro: the basic announce will probably always be the same :) | 15:32 |
| dholbach | paultag: yell at what? port debian live to ubuntu live? | 15:32 |
| paultag | dholbach: last time I tried ( which was way way back ) debian live bombed when I tried to roll an Ubuntu live CD out of it | 15:33 |
| paultag | dholbach: I hate the way to roll an ISO now, it makes me want to kill the nearest living thing | 15:33 |
| dholbach | paultag: I have no idea how all of that stuff works | 15:33 |
| dholbach | the people in #ubuntu-devel might though :) | 15:33 |
| jcastro | dholbach: nigelb: we have a todo for a ubuntu helpdesk for debian devs. | 15:33 |
| paultag | I used to do some work with that team back in 07-08 ish | 15:33 |
| paultag | dholbach: thanks mate :) | 15:34 |
| jcastro | I have been thinking about how to do that | 15:34 |
| dholbach | nigelb: shall we try to schedule it for after UDW? | 15:34 |
| nigelb | jcastro: same as them perhaps? | 15:34 |
| dholbach | nigelb: I'm happy with whatever really | 15:34 |
| nigelb | dholbach: ack, ok | 15:34 |
| nigelb | dholbach: I prefer having it when my laptop is back | 15:34 |
| dholbach | nigelb: there's still some time until UDW | 15:35 |
| nigelb | dholbach: I should get my computer this week (hopefully) | 15:35 |
| nigelb | jcastro: Idea A: We create a mailing list and have everyone who could be important to join that list | 15:35 |
| nigelb | Idea B: We have a mailing list of volunteers who can re-route specific issues to the right person | 15:36 |
| dholbach | jcastro: it could be #debian-ubuntu | 15:36 |
| jcastro | I am not sure another list/channel is a good idea, rather using the existing channels | 15:36 |
| nigelb | jcastro: it can be something like debian@ubuntu.com -> this forwards to you or jono right? | 15:37 |
| dholbach | jcastro: it exists already | 15:37 |
| dholbach | #debian-ubuntu on OFTC | 15:37 |
| jcastro | dholbach: which list? | 15:37 |
| jcastro | oh right right | 15:37 |
| jcastro | bbiab, getting deryck to close his work items so we're not so doomed | 15:37 |
| dholbach | hehe :) | 15:38 |
| nigelb | heh | 15:38 |
| nigelb | My person irk is that not many people know whom to contact for what especially stuff that canonical develops | 15:39 |
| dholbach | nigelb: it's probably the same as with any other package / piece of software | 15:39 |
| nigelb | I know, but I've found others not knowing. The problem to be solved is improved communication to the right person | 15:39 |
| nigelb | dholbach: agreed, but I feel we can do better | 15:40 |
| jcastro | dholbach: ok so is #debian-ubuntu our agreed front desk then? | 15:40 |
| dholbach | which specific use-case are you thinking of? | 15:40 |
| dholbach | jcastro: erm, I did not write a spec about it or anything | 15:40 |
| jcastro | even better | 15:40 |
| jcastro | JFDI FTW. | 15:40 |
| dholbach | jcastro: but it feels natural that people can ask questions there - I thought that was the general idea | 15:40 |
| jcastro | yeah | 15:40 |
| jcastro | I think between irc, the debian@ubuntu.com and the normal ubuntu mailing lists that that ought to be enough | 15:41 |
| nigelb | dholbach: the -devel mail about software generated by ubuntu that has been bouncing around | 15:41 |
| jcastro | nigelb: but we're making progress there | 15:41 |
| jcastro | someone is snagging ayatana stuff for debian already | 15:41 |
| nigelb | jcastro: ofcourse :) | 15:41 |
| dholbach | nigelb: I'm not sure what exactly you want to improve | 15:42 |
| paultag | nigelb: I saw your email :) | 15:42 |
| dholbach | if I don't know who to contact about a piece of software, I'd get the code and check the changelog | 15:42 |
| paultag | nigelb: I'm here to help with Debian / Ubuntu interactions | 15:42 |
| dholbach | and the "homepage" if anything lists it | 15:42 |
| paultag | dholbach: most DMs don't know their code is being patched downstream from what I've seen | 15:42 |
| dholbach | what else do you think is missing? | 15:42 |
| nigelb | perhaps nothing more :/ | 15:43 |
| dholbach | paultag: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gedit.html ← check out the right bottom corner | 15:43 |
| dholbach | nigelb: if you have a brilliant new idea what we could do, I'm all up for it - I just wasn't sure what you were looking for | 15:44 |
| paultag | dholbach: then I blame lazy DMs and DDs | 15:44 |
| nigelb | dholbach: I was looking for a brilliant new idea and hoping you'd come up with one :D | 15:44 |
| dholbach | paultag: maybe it's not advertised enough | 15:44 |
| dholbach | nigelb: haha | 15:44 |
| dholbach | :-) | 15:44 |
| * dholbach hugs you all | 15:44 | |
| nigelb | paultag: I think we need to spam planets :) | 15:44 |
| nigelb | oh wait, we can perhaps have a post of all information available to DMs and DDs | 15:45 |
| paultag | nigelb: heh | 15:45 |
| paultag | dholbach: :P | 15:45 |
| paultag | I think I'm going to go for Debian maintainer soonish | 15:45 |
| * nigelb cheers for paultag :) | 15:46 | |
| paultag | :) | 15:46 |
| paultag | I have my key nice and signed, and a few people willing to back me :D | 15:46 |
| nigelb | \o/ | 15:46 |
| jcastro | also, hi paultag! | 15:46 |
| paultag | heyya jcastro! Coming to OLF again? We're just plotting :) | 15:46 |
| jcastro | for sure | 15:47 |
| nigelb | dholbach: I think we can have jcastro rotating with us for the reports! | 15:47 |
| paultag | jcastro: I do believe I owe you a drink or two :) | 15:47 |
| jcastro | so I went to FOSSCON, it's the one in rochester NY, first year | 15:47 |
| jcastro | it was pretty great | 15:47 |
| paultag | jcastro: Oh yeah, lefty was there too | 15:47 |
| paultag | jcastro: nice :) | 15:47 |
| jcastro | those NY locos got their stuff running tight! | 15:47 |
| vish | jcastro: hey hey, back with us? :) | 15:47 |
| paultag | Charlie did a great job | 15:47 |
| jcastro | vish: yeah! | 15:47 |
| nigelb | jcastro: you wanna rotate with me and dholbach for cleansweep reports every monday? | 15:48 |
| jcastro | nigelb: absolutely | 15:48 |
| akgraner | I hate I missed FOSSCON :-( | 15:48 |
| nigelb | jcastro: next monday is your turn then :) | 15:48 |
| jcastro | I need like another hour to catch up and then I'd like to hit this debian stuff hard. | 15:48 |
| * nigelb likes that akgraner is getting some rest | 15:48 | |
| jcastro | I want to blog about the new debian list, etc. | 15:48 |
| nigelb | jcastro: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/patches/ | 15:49 |
| nigelb | we have some new graphs :) | 15:49 |
| jcastro | NOICE | 15:49 |
| jcastro | man we need more help | 15:49 |
| jcastro | did bobbo fail school yet? | 15:49 |
| jcastro | (just kidding) | 15:49 |
| nigelb | hahaha | 15:49 |
| nigelb | my laptop's dead and I've been away for a week | 15:49 |
| nigelb | last week I reviewed like 30 patches in an hour | 15:49 |
| jcastro | dholbach: ok so deryck just DONEd like 6 items. | 15:50 |
| dholbach | yeeeeeeeeeeehaw | 15:50 |
| jcastro | dholbach: that should give us a bit of breathing room | 15:50 |
| nigelb | yay, mail spam | 15:50 |
| dholbach | jcastro, dpm: we can and slack for a week now | 15:50 |
| jcastro | dholbach: yeah, good thing jono isn't here to spy on us | 15:50 |
| jcastro | WAIT. | 15:50 |
| dpm | jcastro, dholbach, awesome! | 15:50 |
| nigelb | jcastro: he is here, isn't he ;) | 15:51 |
| nigelb | ahh, I can work on of them for this week - the blacklist process | 15:51 |
| paultag | WHOH WHOH jcastro | 15:51 |
| jcastro | cool, when lucas is around nigelb we can talk about submit-to-debian | 15:52 |
| nigelb | paultag: re:debian maintainers complaining - we give patches back during merges, but get compaints before we can start the process | 15:52 |
| paultag | jcastro: I just checked out your blog, and the pic of that guy on the front page ( Jason ) is my goddamn double. I thought for a good 10 seconds that it was me | 15:52 |
| jcastro | maybe paultag can bring his undergrad enthusiasm and fix it for us. :p | 15:52 |
| jcastro | paultag: no he's way dorkier | 15:52 |
| nigelb | jcastro: ack, I'll write to you and you can not block on me | 15:52 |
| paultag | jcastro: goddamnit, not getting roped into this until I get my frieken todo queue done | 15:52 |
| paultag | jcastro: hold on, let me find a photo of me. We look _identical_ | 15:53 |
| jcastro | paultag: hah, welcome to the team! | 15:53 |
| paultag | haha | 15:53 |
| jcastro | "oh just wait like, 10 minutes and I'll get caught up." | 15:53 |
| paultag | jcastro: this one is close ( don't mind the purple teeth, it was a wine night with my cuz ) -- http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs087.snc3/15453_1191843636533_1241640883_30964716_6817011_n.jpg | 15:54 |
| * paultag is really creeped out | 15:56 | |
| * jussi creeps paultag out some more... | 15:57 | |
| paultag | heyya jussi :) | 15:57 |
| jussi | :D | 15:57 |
| nigelb | dholbach: can we close persia's tasks? I'm not sure what they are and if they need to be done or even better if we did them already | 15:57 |
| * nigelb waves to jussi | 15:57 | |
| dholbach | nigelb: sure | 15:57 |
| nigelb | dholbach: talk to bug squad people would be telling bug squad about us and what needs to be done in case of patches - I'll raise it at next bug squad meeting - assign to me | 15:58 |
| nigelb | I don't remember what buckets and todo lists is about :/ | 15:59 |
| dholbach | nigelb: will you assign to yourself or shall I do it? | 15:59 |
| nigelb | dholbach: can you please assign? | 16:00 |
| dholbach | nigelb: sure | 16:00 |
| dholbach | nigelb: done | 16:01 |
| nigelb | dholbach: thank you :) | 16:01 |
| dholbach | nigelb: we're on for Jul 22 | 16:02 |
| dholbach | nigelb: hugday after udw | 16:02 |
| nigelb | awesome :) | 16:02 |
| * vish wonders who came up with the tag "Fearless leader" for Jono :D | 16:13 | |
| dholbach | jcastro: moved the announce from the pad to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/Announce | 16:17 |
| dholbach | (and prepared a blog entry, so we can GO whenever its ready) | 16:17 |
| dholbach | jcastro: can you take "[dholbach] Ask interested people to set up daily builds: TODO"? | 16:17 |
| dholbach | jcastro: aren't you in touch with thos people anyway? :D | 16:18 |
| jcastro | I am | 16:19 |
| jcastro | you can move that to me | 16:19 |
| * dholbach hugs jcastro | 16:19 | |
| nigelb | that is one full of awesome wiki :) | 16:19 |
| dholbach | sweet | 16:19 |
| dholbach | nigelb: it just contains "awesome" twice | 16:20 |
| dholbach | nigelb: that's sub-par-under-awesome in jcastro-terms | 16:20 |
| jcastro | hah dholbach | 16:21 |
| jcastro | I just screwed you | 16:21 |
| jcastro | I am on holiday 27-29 august | 16:21 |
| nigelb | HAHA | 16:22 |
| jcastro | but I didn't put it in the calendar yet (just did now) | 16:22 |
| dholbach | jcastro: SCREW YOU! | 16:22 |
| * dholbach hugs jcastro :) | 16:22 | |
| jcastro | don't worry, I am sure you will assign me to 45 IRC sessions before hand | 16:22 |
| paultag | Ha! | 16:22 |
| paultag | jcastro: you did one on your frik'n birthday | 16:23 |
| paultag | I don't think 45 is enough | 16:23 |
| dholbach | jcastro: we'll figure it out just fine | 16:23 |
| dholbach | there's a lot of time until then | 16:23 |
| jcastro | dholbach: ok what week did the lp team say they are landing daily build stuff? | 16:23 |
| jcastro | like, as in next week? | 16:23 |
| jcastro | or further out? | 16:24 |
| dholbach | jcastro: they only tested recipes up until now, package recipe builds are close, they hope to get it done ASAP, but will only roll out to edge because the UI needs a bit more polish | 16:28 |
| dholbach | jcastro: so hopefully next week | 16:28 |
| dholbach | they keep hitting small stumbling blocks and hoped to have it done earlier already | 16:29 |
| * jcastro nods | 16:29 | |
| jcastro | I am planning on setting up a bunch (like from that list) | 16:29 |
| jcastro | as an example | 16:29 |
| jcastro | dholbach: will there be an easy way to list all the daily PPAs? | 16:29 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I dunno, abentley should know | 16:30 |
| dholbach | or noodles | 16:30 |
| jcastro | like are we going to ask people to follow a naming convention for the main ones or .. ? | 16:30 |
| jcastro | ok | 16:30 |
| dholbach | we | 16:34 |
| dholbach | 're below the line: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-community.html :) | 16:34 |
| dholbach | but maybe just for a day | 16:34 |
| dholbach | jcastro: no idea | 16:35 |
| dholbach | jcastro: might be nice though | 16:35 |
| jcastro | is that because of those 6 items you think? | 16:35 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I think I'll give a session quickly after announce as part of Packaging Training | 16:35 |
| dholbach | jcastro: maybe, yeah | 16:35 |
| jcastro | ok | 16:35 |
| jcastro | I should have like 2 more today | 16:35 |
| dholbach | ok, added my session | 16:37 |
| dpm | jcastro, that's definitely because of the 6 items. I've been watching the chart this morning and they did make the difference. Good work on deryck and you! | 16:45 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I call it a day | 17:02 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow | 17:02 |
| dholbach | big hugs | 17:02 |
| paultag | night dholbach :) | 17:02 |
| nigelb | night! | 17:02 |
| dpm | yep, time to call it a day for me too | 17:07 |
| dpm | see you all tomorrow! | 17:07 |
| jcastro | hey jussi | 17:09 |
| jcastro | #debian-ubuntu is a bridge to OFTC iirc? | 17:09 |
| jcastro | JFo: hey, so they landed the fix that makes +patches show the right stuff | 17:16 |
| jcastro | can you doublecheck next time you're doing bugwork? | 17:16 |
| JFo | certainly can :) | 17:16 |
| nigelb | later folks, going back home :) | 17:17 |
| doctormo | Has anyone heard of these guys: http://www.linuxidentity.com/us/ ? | 17:43 |
| paultag | hey doctormo, poke :) | 18:03 |
| paultag | also, I've never heard of them doctormo :/ | 18:03 |
| paultag | doctormo: I'm going to head downtown at like 3:00, so I'll be down at about 4:00, and I'll walk around for a bit | 18:09 |
| qense | good afternoon | 18:39 |
| doctormo | paultag: Let me know if you want to meet up earlier. | 19:19 |
| paultag | doctormo: poke | 19:29 |
| doctormo | paultag: shoot | 19:30 |
| paultag | doctormo: so I'm leaving in about 30, I'll be down by 4:00 | 19:30 |
| doctormo | paultag: Yes, I saw that, did you get my message about meeting up ealier? | 19:33 |
| paultag | doctormo: just now | 19:33 |
| paultag | doctormo: it takes me about an hour to get down, so that's asap :) | 19:36 |
| doctormo | paultag: Aight see you there. | 19:37 |
| paultag | doctormo: sounds like a plan, stan | 19:38 |
| jcastro | jono: we still on for today? | 20:10 |
| jono | jcastro, yep | 20:55 |
| czajkowski | jono: just the gentleman I'm looking for :) | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | jono: a heads up http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/06/22/new-tag-locoteams-find-out-whats-going-on-with-other-loco-teams/ | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | be great if you could also start to use it when you can | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | trying to encourage loco teams to promote their events, get discssion going | 20:56 |
| jono | czajkowski, cool, have a call now, but will check when I am done | 21:00 |
| czajkowski | jono: thanks | 21:00 |
| jono | jcastro, give me a moment to get out the studio and head downstairs | 21:01 |
| jcastro | no worries | 21:02 |
| jono | jcastro, lets do skype | 21:10 |
| jono | I can do it in the studio | 21:10 |
| jcastro | ok | 21:12 |
| jcastro | I need to reboot | 21:12 |
| jcastro | one sec | 21:12 |
| jono | jcastro, np | 21:12 |
| jcastro | jono: ok all set | 21:15 |
| czajkowski | jono: remember that page I asked ayou about re Loco council and updates be sent to you and how it was out of date and needed to be removed | 22:41 |
| jono | yeah | 22:41 |
| czajkowski | jono: well here is another https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader | 22:41 |
| czajkowski | but folks are editing it | 22:41 |
| jono | ok cool :) | 22:41 |
| czajkowski | but we have the ledership code of conduct | 22:41 |
| czajkowski | jono: are you redireting the pages to the new updated pages? | 22:41 |
| czajkowski | off now to drogheda to collect sister from aiport then back to CAstleconnell tomorrow folks | 22:45 |
| czajkowski | nn | 22:45 |
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