=== paultag_ is now known as paultag [07:00] good morning [07:08] *yawn* [07:20] hola ara, hey jussi [07:23] morning dholbach [07:25] * nigelb yawns too [07:27] hey nigelb :) [07:27] how's life in sunny India? [07:28] dholbach: as usual :) [07:29] that's everything? "as usual"? :) [07:30] heh [07:30] well, busy with work, but free enough for irc :) [07:31] AND waiting for my laptop to come back from the shop [07:31] still? [07:31] poor Nigel [07:32] now you know why patch review didn't move last week ;) [07:35] hey dpm [07:36] morning dholbach :) [07:36] good morning all! [08:01] morning dpm [08:05] hola ara [09:36] hola randa_ [09:39] hola dholbach! === ara_ is now known as ara [12:26] akgraner: ping [14:17] hey doctormo, poke [14:36] hey jono [14:37] hey dholbach [15:30] jcastro: I'll mark the daily builds work item concerning "write up something awesome" as INPROGRESS [15:30] yeah [15:30] dholbach: shall we attack pedro re: hug day for patches? [15:31] dholbach: really all I need is to test it once they tell us it's working and then I am ready to go about an hour after that [15:31] jcastro: I think it's "almost working now" :) [15:31] speaking of daily builds, who do I have to yell at to try and port debian live to ubuntu live ? [15:32] jcastro: I think we can always tweak the docs later on [15:32] jcastro: the basic announce will probably always be the same :) [15:32] paultag: yell at what? port debian live to ubuntu live? [15:33] dholbach: last time I tried ( which was way way back ) debian live bombed when I tried to roll an Ubuntu live CD out of it [15:33] dholbach: I hate the way to roll an ISO now, it makes me want to kill the nearest living thing [15:33] paultag: I have no idea how all of that stuff works [15:33] the people in #ubuntu-devel might though :) [15:33] dholbach: nigelb: we have a todo for a ubuntu helpdesk for debian devs. [15:33] I used to do some work with that team back in 07-08 ish [15:34] dholbach: thanks mate :) [15:34] I have been thinking about how to do that [15:34] nigelb: shall we try to schedule it for after UDW? [15:34] jcastro: same as them perhaps? [15:34] nigelb: I'm happy with whatever really [15:34] dholbach: ack, ok [15:34] dholbach: I prefer having it when my laptop is back [15:35] nigelb: there's still some time until UDW [15:35] dholbach: I should get my computer this week (hopefully) [15:35] jcastro: Idea A: We create a mailing list and have everyone who could be important to join that list [15:36] Idea B: We have a mailing list of volunteers who can re-route specific issues to the right person [15:36] jcastro: it could be #debian-ubuntu [15:36] I am not sure another list/channel is a good idea, rather using the existing channels [15:37] jcastro: it can be something like debian@ubuntu.com -> this forwards to you or jono right? [15:37] jcastro: it exists already [15:37] #debian-ubuntu on OFTC [15:37] dholbach: which list? [15:37] oh right right [15:37] bbiab, getting deryck to close his work items so we're not so doomed [15:38] hehe :) [15:38] heh [15:39] My person irk is that not many people know whom to contact for what especially stuff that canonical develops [15:39] nigelb: it's probably the same as with any other package / piece of software [15:39] I know, but I've found others not knowing. The problem to be solved is improved communication to the right person [15:40] dholbach: agreed, but I feel we can do better [15:40] dholbach: ok so is #debian-ubuntu our agreed front desk then? [15:40] which specific use-case are you thinking of? [15:40] jcastro: erm, I did not write a spec about it or anything [15:40] even better [15:40] JFDI FTW. [15:40] jcastro: but it feels natural that people can ask questions there - I thought that was the general idea [15:40] yeah [15:41] I think between irc, the debian@ubuntu.com and the normal ubuntu mailing lists that that ought to be enough [15:41] dholbach: the -devel mail about software generated by ubuntu that has been bouncing around [15:41] nigelb: but we're making progress there [15:41] someone is snagging ayatana stuff for debian already [15:41] jcastro: ofcourse :) [15:42] nigelb: I'm not sure what exactly you want to improve [15:42] nigelb: I saw your email :) [15:42] if I don't know who to contact about a piece of software, I'd get the code and check the changelog [15:42] nigelb: I'm here to help with Debian / Ubuntu interactions [15:42] and the "homepage" if anything lists it [15:42] dholbach: most DMs don't know their code is being patched downstream from what I've seen [15:42] what else do you think is missing? [15:43] perhaps nothing more :/ [15:43] paultag: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gedit.html ← check out the right bottom corner [15:44] nigelb: if you have a brilliant new idea what we could do, I'm all up for it - I just wasn't sure what you were looking for [15:44] dholbach: then I blame lazy DMs and DDs [15:44] dholbach: I was looking for a brilliant new idea and hoping you'd come up with one :D [15:44] paultag: maybe it's not advertised enough [15:44] nigelb: haha [15:44] :-) [15:44] * dholbach hugs you all [15:44] paultag: I think we need to spam planets :) [15:45] oh wait, we can perhaps have a post of all information available to DMs and DDs [15:45] nigelb: heh [15:45] dholbach: :P [15:45] I think I'm going to go for Debian maintainer soonish [15:46] * nigelb cheers for paultag :) [15:46] :) [15:46] I have my key nice and signed, and a few people willing to back me :D [15:46] \o/ [15:46] also, hi paultag! [15:46] heyya jcastro! Coming to OLF again? We're just plotting :) [15:47] for sure [15:47] dholbach: I think we can have jcastro rotating with us for the reports! [15:47] jcastro: I do believe I owe you a drink or two :) [15:47] so I went to FOSSCON, it's the one in rochester NY, first year [15:47] it was pretty great [15:47] jcastro: Oh yeah, lefty was there too [15:47] jcastro: nice :) [15:47] those NY locos got their stuff running tight! [15:47] jcastro: hey hey, back with us? :) [15:47] Charlie did a great job [15:47] vish: yeah! [15:48] jcastro: you wanna rotate with me and dholbach for cleansweep reports every monday? [15:48] nigelb: absolutely [15:48] I hate I missed FOSSCON :-( [15:48] jcastro: next monday is your turn then :) [15:48] I need like another hour to catch up and then I'd like to hit this debian stuff hard. [15:48] * nigelb likes that akgraner is getting some rest [15:48] I want to blog about the new debian list, etc. [15:49] jcastro: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/patches/ [15:49] we have some new graphs :) [15:49] NOICE [15:49] man we need more help [15:49] did bobbo fail school yet? [15:49] (just kidding) [15:49] hahaha [15:49] my laptop's dead and I've been away for a week [15:49] last week I reviewed like 30 patches in an hour [15:50] dholbach: ok so deryck just DONEd like 6 items. [15:50] yeeeeeeeeeeehaw [15:50] dholbach: that should give us a bit of breathing room [15:50] yay, mail spam [15:50] jcastro, dpm: we can and slack for a week now [15:50] dholbach: yeah, good thing jono isn't here to spy on us [15:50] WAIT. [15:50] jcastro, dholbach, awesome! [15:51] jcastro: he is here, isn't he ;) [15:51] ahh, I can work on of them for this week - the blacklist process [15:51] WHOH WHOH jcastro [15:52] cool, when lucas is around nigelb we can talk about submit-to-debian [15:52] paultag: re:debian maintainers complaining - we give patches back during merges, but get compaints before we can start the process [15:52] jcastro: I just checked out your blog, and the pic of that guy on the front page ( Jason ) is my goddamn double. I thought for a good 10 seconds that it was me [15:52] maybe paultag can bring his undergrad enthusiasm and fix it for us. :p [15:52] paultag: no he's way dorkier [15:52] jcastro: ack, I'll write to you and you can not block on me [15:52] jcastro: goddamnit, not getting roped into this until I get my frieken todo queue done [15:53] jcastro: hold on, let me find a photo of me. We look _identical_ [15:53] paultag: hah, welcome to the team! [15:53] haha [15:53] "oh just wait like, 10 minutes and I'll get caught up." [15:54] jcastro: this one is close ( don't mind the purple teeth, it was a wine night with my cuz ) -- http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs087.snc3/15453_1191843636533_1241640883_30964716_6817011_n.jpg [15:56] * paultag is really creeped out [15:57] * jussi creeps paultag out some more... [15:57] heyya jussi :) [15:57] :D [15:57] dholbach: can we close persia's tasks? I'm not sure what they are and if they need to be done or even better if we did them already [15:57] * nigelb waves to jussi [15:57] nigelb: sure [15:58] dholbach: talk to bug squad people would be telling bug squad about us and what needs to be done in case of patches - I'll raise it at next bug squad meeting - assign to me [15:59] I don't remember what buckets and todo lists is about :/ [15:59] nigelb: will you assign to yourself or shall I do it? [16:00] dholbach: can you please assign? [16:00] nigelb: sure [16:01] nigelb: done [16:01] dholbach: thank you :) [16:02] nigelb: we're on for Jul 22 [16:02] nigelb: hugday after udw [16:02] awesome :) [16:13] * vish wonders who came up with the tag "Fearless leader" for Jono :D [16:17] jcastro: moved the announce from the pad to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/Announce [16:17] (and prepared a blog entry, so we can GO whenever its ready) [16:17] jcastro: can you take "[dholbach] Ask interested people to set up daily builds: TODO"? [16:18] jcastro: aren't you in touch with thos people anyway? :D [16:19] I am [16:19] you can move that to me [16:19] * dholbach hugs jcastro [16:19] that is one full of awesome wiki :) [16:19] sweet [16:20] nigelb: it just contains "awesome" twice [16:20] nigelb: that's sub-par-under-awesome in jcastro-terms [16:21] hah dholbach [16:21] I just screwed you [16:21] I am on holiday 27-29 august [16:22] HAHA [16:22] but I didn't put it in the calendar yet (just did now) [16:22] jcastro: SCREW YOU! [16:22] * dholbach hugs jcastro :) [16:22] don't worry, I am sure you will assign me to 45 IRC sessions before hand [16:22] Ha! [16:23] jcastro: you did one on your frik'n birthday [16:23] I don't think 45 is enough [16:23] jcastro: we'll figure it out just fine [16:23] there's a lot of time until then [16:23] dholbach: ok what week did the lp team say they are landing daily build stuff? [16:23] like, as in next week? [16:24] or further out? [16:28] jcastro: they only tested recipes up until now, package recipe builds are close, they hope to get it done ASAP, but will only roll out to edge because the UI needs a bit more polish [16:28] jcastro: so hopefully next week [16:29] they keep hitting small stumbling blocks and hoped to have it done earlier already [16:29] * jcastro nods [16:29] I am planning on setting up a bunch (like from that list) [16:29] as an example [16:29] dholbach: will there be an easy way to list all the daily PPAs? [16:30] jcastro: I dunno, abentley should know [16:30] or noodles [16:30] like are we going to ask people to follow a naming convention for the main ones or .. ? [16:30] ok [16:34] we [16:34] 're below the line: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-community.html :) [16:34] but maybe just for a day [16:35] jcastro: no idea [16:35] jcastro: might be nice though [16:35] is that because of those 6 items you think? [16:35] jcastro: I think I'll give a session quickly after announce as part of Packaging Training [16:35] jcastro: maybe, yeah [16:35] ok [16:35] I should have like 2 more today [16:37] ok, added my session [16:45] jcastro, that's definitely because of the 6 items. I've been watching the chart this morning and they did make the difference. Good work on deryck and you! [17:02] alright my friends - I call it a day [17:02] see you tomorrow [17:02] big hugs [17:02] night dholbach :) [17:02] night! [17:07] yep, time to call it a day for me too [17:07] see you all tomorrow! [17:09] hey jussi [17:09] #debian-ubuntu is a bridge to OFTC iirc? [17:16] JFo: hey, so they landed the fix that makes +patches show the right stuff [17:16] can you doublecheck next time you're doing bugwork? [17:16] certainly can :) [17:17] later folks, going back home :) [17:43] Has anyone heard of these guys: http://www.linuxidentity.com/us/ ? [18:03] hey doctormo, poke :) [18:03] also, I've never heard of them doctormo :/ [18:09] doctormo: I'm going to head downtown at like 3:00, so I'll be down at about 4:00, and I'll walk around for a bit [18:39] good afternoon [19:19] paultag: Let me know if you want to meet up earlier. [19:29] doctormo: poke [19:30] paultag: shoot [19:30] doctormo: so I'm leaving in about 30, I'll be down by 4:00 [19:33] paultag: Yes, I saw that, did you get my message about meeting up ealier? [19:33] doctormo: just now [19:36] doctormo: it takes me about an hour to get down, so that's asap :) [19:37] paultag: Aight see you there. [19:38] doctormo: sounds like a plan, stan [20:10] jono: we still on for today? [20:55] jcastro, yep [20:56] jono: just the gentleman I'm looking for :) [20:56] jono: a heads up http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/06/22/new-tag-locoteams-find-out-whats-going-on-with-other-loco-teams/ [20:56] be great if you could also start to use it when you can [20:56] trying to encourage loco teams to promote their events, get discssion going [21:00] czajkowski, cool, have a call now, but will check when I am done [21:00] jono: thanks [21:01] jcastro, give me a moment to get out the studio and head downstairs [21:02] no worries [21:10] jcastro, lets do skype [21:10] I can do it in the studio [21:12] ok [21:12] I need to reboot [21:12] one sec [21:12] jcastro, np [21:15] jono: ok all set [22:41] jono: remember that page I asked ayou about re Loco council and updates be sent to you and how it was out of date and needed to be removed [22:41] yeah [22:41] jono: well here is another https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader [22:41] but folks are editing it [22:41] ok cool :) [22:41] but we have the ledership code of conduct [22:41] jono: are you redireting the pages to the new updated pages? [22:45] off now to drogheda to collect sister from aiport then back to CAstleconnell tomorrow folks [22:45] nn