[01:38] <oneman> If anyone is interested in helping alpha test the ability to control FiOS TV HD STB's over an IP network, please come to irc://irc.freenode.net/#fiostv, basic network, shell and package manager skills required. Time investment probably 3+ hours
[03:05] <palanthas> Hopefully I have a quick question for anyone that might know... I setting up mythTV backend and I am getting a an error about "Cannot connect to port 6543" Help please?
[04:16] <qwebirc97348> I'm having some trouble with aspect ratios. The video is being stretched vertically to fill the screen. I have a 1920x1080 screen. Any ideas?
[04:22] <toorima> anyone here stream netflix in linux?
[04:24] <toorima> qwebirc97348: try pressing W on your keyboard
[04:24] <toorima> cycle through zoom and fill modes: 4:3 aspect ratio, 16:9, 4:3 Zoom (like Pan and Scan), 16:9 Zoom, and 16:9 Stretch (eliminates black sidebars in TV signal)
[04:24] <qwebirc97348> will I have to set it every time?
[04:25] <qwebirc97348> it seems like the aspect could be calculated
[04:30] <qwebirc97348> actually, none of the W settings works
[04:33] <qwebirc97348> what seems to work is switching to manual zoom mode and using [ or ] to change the zoom
[04:33] <qwebirc97348> I was hoping for something more automatic
[04:38] <toorima> qwebirc97348: i think there is something in settings about it
[04:45] <rhpot1991> toorima: can't stream netflix in linux
[04:56] <toorima> rhpot1991: ok thx
[14:34] <LaMs> Hi all, I currently have an old computer hooked to my TV and running MythBuntu 9.10. I'm playing some game emulators, stepmania in multiplayer and FoFix. It is also dedicated to video and music. I would like to remove the old computer case from the living room and replace it with something that have a better WAF (wife appeal factor). I though about buying a nettop, would it be powerful enough for FoFix, stepmania and HD video ? Would the Acer Revo 36
[14:34] <LaMs> 10 do what I want ? I would install Mythbuntu 10.04 on it.
[14:57] <haffe> LaMs: As long as it runs nvidia Ion it should be able to do HD video (vdpau)
[14:57] <haffe> I don't think that Frets on Fire and Stepmania are very rescource intesive programs but I can't swear by it.
[15:01] <LaMs> haffe: Is there known problem that I should know before buying one ? Like, maybe no audio in HDMI or something like that ?
[15:38] <Keithamus> LaMs, have you considered building one yourself?
[15:41] <LaMs> Keithamus: Well, I though about it. But my idea was that I would not be able to build one as small as a revo or a Zotac for the price they are sold. Was my assumption flawed ?
[15:42] <Keithamus> It wasn't floored - you likely wont be able to get one of a similar spec cheaper than the acer
[15:42] <Keithamus> flawed*
[15:42] <Keithamus> One thing I would say
[15:43] <Keithamus> The acer isn't really febe material. It'll work, but I have very similarly specced fes and I know they wouldn't suffice as febes
[15:43] <Keithamus> the Atom processor is pretty shoddy when it comes to things like encoding, commflagging etc.
[15:45] <Keithamus> LaMs, my setup is here btw: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Keithamus
[15:45] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] User:Keithamus - MythTV
[16:07] <LaMs> Keithamus: Thanks I'll look into it and maybe I will decide to build it myself. But I have another computer that I can use to do encoding and other more cpu intensive task.
[16:07] <Keithamus> Cool LaMs, sounds like you would want to set up a frontend + backend environment then, in which case Im sure Acer Revo or similar would be ideal.
[16:10] <LaMs> Keithamus: Haaa I see! I never really understood the Backend/Frontend relation since my current HTPC is doing both. Maybe what I need is more XBMC than MythTV since I am not recording TV anymore anyway :-/
[16:12] <Keithamus> MythTV is fine for most purposes. The frontend backend relation is for if you have many tvs, or an underpowered tv, while you have a central server feeding these all. For example my setup, my backend has a tuner, while my 2 frontends dont, but they get TV from the backend. If you don't watch TV, and you're not fussed about the low HDD space in the revo, then I'm sure it'll be ideal for you.
[16:13] <LaMs> Keithamus: Good ! Thank you for the information
[16:13] <Keithamus> np LaMs, any time
[18:29] <qwebirc48591> does anyone know if the release of MythBuntu fixed the resetting of metadata problem? It seems that all of my coverart and fan art reset and I had to go reselect the images
[18:37] <rhpot1991> qwebirc48591: happens when using a non storage group?
[18:48] <skai> есть кто живой?
[18:51] <skai> anybody alive?
[18:57] <superm1> !hi
[18:57] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about hi
[18:57] <superm1> !ask
[18:57] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[19:21] <rhpot1991> !hllo
[19:21] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about hllo
[19:21] <rhpot1991> !hello
[19:21] <Zinn> hello, something we can help you with today?
[19:34] <qwebirc48591> rhpot1991 yes i deleted the storage group for videos
[19:35] <rhpot1991> qwebirc48591: why so, isos?
[19:36] <tgm4883> qwebirc48591, what version of mythbuntu are you using
[19:37] <qwebirc48591> rhpot1991 : yes, plus I do not like the way it forces you to go into two levels to get to your videos,
[19:37] <tgm4883> qwebirc48591, thats because you have ISO's
[19:37] <tgm4883> not a storage group thing
[19:38] <qwebirc48591> version 10.4
[19:38] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: I'm fairly certain the bug he is talkinga bout still exists though
[19:38] <rhpot1991> I see it with my non storage group media still
[19:42] <qwebirc48591> i remember there being an issue with non storage groups and updates clearing metadata
[19:42] <qwebirc48591> i believe there was a fix in a beta version
[19:43] <tgm4883> on auto-buids?
[19:43] <qwebirc48591> tgm4883: yes i believe that was it.
[19:44] <tgm4883> qwebirc48591, you are on auto-builds or the fix is?
[19:45] <qwebirc48591> tgm4883: the auto-builds fixed the issue in the last version i used. i have not found a fix for this version
[19:46] <tgm4883> qwebirc48591, are you on auto-builds?
[19:46] <tgm4883> because it's the same builds
[19:46] <tgm4883> literally
[19:49] <qwebirc48591> if it is not loaded by default then no. where is the auto build settings?
[19:51] <tgm4883> !auto%
[19:51] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[20:15] <qwebirc48591> tgm4883: am i suppose to use .23 or .24?
[20:18] <mrand> qwebirc48591: 0.23 is the stable release.   0.24 technically doesn't exist it... it's currently trunk/alpha.  In a couple or three months, it'll become beta.
[20:18] <mrand> it'll become 0.24 beta
[20:25] <rhpot1991> I'm 99% sure the issue remains in the auto builds
[20:27]  * tgm4883 still wonders how that isn't clear
[20:30] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: I'm thinking we should have that page say what the latest version is
[20:30] <rhpot1991> and not say go to mythtv.org to figure it out
[20:30] <Zinn> [mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR
[20:32] <mrand> I guess the auto-builds page would be the most logical place.
[20:34] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, i'm 99.9% sure thats not going to happen
[20:34] <tgm4883> you can try to convince superm1 of that though
[20:34] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: why nots
[20:34] <rhpot1991> we got accounts, don't tell superm1
[20:35]  * rhpot1991 renames the ppa's to cartoon characters
[20:35] <rhpot1991> "I'm running Gumby PPA, and this isn't working" will clearly make everything much clearer
[20:40] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, you need to upgrade to Pokey PPA, Gumby is depreciated
[20:40] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, to get that information in the tool (version info), 1 of 2 things needs to happen
[20:40] <tgm4883> 1) Either it needs to query a website for the current version
[20:41] <tgm4883> 2) the package needs to be updated every release
[20:41] <tgm4883> i'm not a fan of 2
[20:41] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: well, doesn't it need to be upgraded to add the new one anyways?
[20:42] <tgm4883> It has to be updated at most once a cycle
[20:42] <tgm4883> sometimes it doesn't
[20:44] <tgm4883> if you make it for the release, you have to update it initially (mythbuntu cycle start), if mythtv gets updated, if we change versions of mythtv we ship, and also when mythtv gets updated again (updating for past releases)
[20:44] <tgm4883> what i'll probably do it just have like 4 extra screens if you choose the large version
[20:48] <superm1> haha
[20:57] <mrand> I like large versions of screens.  Especially movie screens.
[21:52] <l8rguy> hey
[21:53] <l8rguy> i dont know or want Mythbuntu but (actually my friend doesnt). how to i remove or cover with Ubuntu this mythbuntu. it doesnt seem to work for his computer either
[21:56] <mrand> You want the ubuntu desktop?
[21:57] <chiluk> install ubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[21:57] <l8rguy> ... synaptic?
[21:58] <chiluk> that will keep all the myth pieces and add the desktop pieces
[21:58] <l8rguy> ahh
[21:58] <chiluk> that's the ubuntu package manager.
[21:58] <l8rguy> o. on the ubuntu website
[21:58] <chiluk> you could apt-get install ubuntu-desktop from a command line.
[21:58] <mrand> Admin -> synaptic
[21:58] <chiluk> no not on the website.
[21:58] <mrand> or apt-get, as chiluk says
[21:59] <chiluk> use synaptic you will find it fun seeing all that is available.
[21:59] <chiluk> mrand, at least I've now made myself useful.
[21:59] <chiluk> l8rguy good luck.
[21:59] <l8rguy> thank you
[21:59] <l8rguy> thank yo
[21:59] <l8rguy> u
[21:59] <mrand> heh.
[21:59] <mrand> I find synaptic to be annoying... search doesn't work like you think it should, and there is too much _stuff_
[21:59] <chiluk> if I were you I'd probably download the ubuntu desktop cd and fresh install.
[21:59] <l8rguy> even though i am new to this thanks for the help
[22:00] <chiluk> mythbuntu has a lot of unique setup behavior for myth purposes.
[22:00] <chiluk> quick search doesn't.
[22:00] <chiluk> i've never had a problem with regular search
[22:00] <chiluk> as in clicking the search icon.
[22:00] <chiluk> no problem.
[22:00] <chiluk> hopefully whatever you are experiencing won't taint your view of ubuntu.
[22:01] <chiluk> or linux for that matter.
[22:01] <chiluk> understand mythbuntu is very stripped down on purpose.
[22:01] <l8rguy> i love ubuntu, i, do not have the problem.. my friend got his pesky neewbie fingers into Mythbuntu which seems altogehter confusing for a 1st time user
[22:02] <l8rguy> so you need Mythbuntu to run on ubuntu?
[22:02] <chiluk> nope.
[22:03] <chiluk> mythbuntu and ubuntu share some packages... and don't share others.
[22:03] <chiluk> all of the base os stuff is pretty much the same between the two.
[22:03] <chiluk> but myth does away with pretty desktop manager and UI in favor of stripped down-ness in order to save resources.
[22:04] <chiluk> regular ubuntu is meant to be used as a desktop
[22:04] <chiluk> like windows
[22:04] <l8rguy> nice
[22:04] <chiluk> mythbuntu is meant to be a purpose built OS made for being a media center.
[22:04] <chiluk> you can add the pretty UI pieces.
[22:04] <l8rguy> im writing up the spill about what happend friends comp if you guys will hear it.. i writing it regardless
[22:05] <l8rguy> so. .. the spill >> he installed Mythbuntu form the website.. after reboot the GNome thingy which is the choose your OS it has the windows os and Mythbuntu as the options
[22:05] <chiluk> that's actually grub, but ok.
[22:06] <l8rguy> the probelm is that it doesnt have the second prompt with mythbuntu version whatever
[22:06] <l8rguy> all it has is this circular reasoning back to windows 7 or vista thingy
[22:07] <chiluk> so when grub comes up, windows is the only option?
[22:08] <l8rguy> no it has mythbuntu underneith but the next promp which lets you choose what version or network only thing is missing and in its place is windows vista and windows 7
[22:09] <chiluk> is he booting off of a cd?
[22:09] <chiluk> and by next prompt you mean after selecting mythbuntu.
[22:09] <chiluk> right?
[22:09] <l8rguy> yes
[22:09] <l8rguy> yes
[22:09] <l8rguy> o.. the booting of cd. no
[22:10] <l8rguy> he used the download manager
[22:10] <chiluk> alright so if you want to run both windows and full Ubuntu it doesn't matter what its' doing right now.
[22:10] <chiluk> I'd go ahead and download the Ubuntu-desktop iso from ubuntu.com
[22:10] <Zinn> [ubuntu.com] Ubuntu homepage | Ubuntu
[22:10] <chiluk> or the torrent
[22:10] <chiluk> *(isn't that cool)
[22:11] <chiluk> and install Ubuntu over the mythbuntu installation.
[22:11] <chiluk> that should go through and re-install your bootloader which should hopefully clear things up.
[22:12] <l8rguy> .. quiet on this end. so he should create an iso, mount it to disk, and install ubuntu over the mythbuntu installation
[22:14] <chiluk> create the iso.... burn it to disk... (mounting is something completely different), and then install....
[22:14] <l8rguy> right.. right
[22:14] <chiluk> please don't take my being pedantic for being an ass.... I just want to make sure we understand each other.
[22:14] <Zinn> chiluk: Please watch your language.
[22:15] <chiluk> haa..
[22:15] <chiluk> good luck
[22:15] <l8rguy> no problem
[22:16] <chiluk> when installing the full ubuntu you may want to try the #ubuntu channel.  You'll probably get more help from smarter people than I.
[22:17] <l8rguy> smarter maybe, but more pedantic, never
[22:17] <l8rguy> it has been very helpful
[22:18] <l8rguy> thanks for putting up with me.. im sure my friend will be happy that i some new majic to revitalize his comp
[22:21] <chiluk> oh man... and now he leaves.
[22:49] <qwebirc48591> I am not able to reboot my mythtv from the GUI or SSH and have it reboot to MythTv,  I have to actually shutdown the box and repower it. Any ideas?
[23:11] <mrand> qwebirc48591: http://techie-buzz.com/linux-tips/safely-restart-frozen-linux-system-reisub.html
[23:11] <Zinn> [techie-buzz.com] Safely Restart a Frozen Linux System with Reisub
[23:11] <mrand> Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.