[00:02] <Psi-Jack> Now the problem is, how do I trigger something for when it's stopping? heh
[00:18] <SpamapS> Psi-Jack: trigger what for when what is stopping?
[00:19] <Psi-Jack> pre-start, post-start, etc script segments. Gawds, upstart is bigger than I thought. ;)
[00:23] <KurtKraut> Is there any documentation on how to install Ubuntu with software-based RAD0?
[00:23] <HugeCannon> Hey, I'm having a really strange ssh/netowrk/dns problem on my ubuntu server. The problem is that I'll be running an ssh connection to my server which has a static IP 192.168.2.100 and then the connection will get slow/intermittent then eventually drop. When it drops I go to my windows laptop and do "ping 192.168.2.100" which returns "pinging 192.168.2.100... response from 192.168.2.5 unreachable"
[00:23] <Psi-Jack> Umm. That's easily done by the installer, KurtKraut.
[00:24] <KurtKraut> Psi-Jack, easily done? I couldn't find it. And I've installed 4 machines with the alternate installer.
[00:24] <KurtKraut> The term 'RAID' didn't even appear on screen
[00:24] <Psi-Jack> You don't even need the alternate installer.
[00:25] <Psi-Jack> RAID's on the partition manager, IF you have, or create RAID type partitions, which you set while creating partitions.
[00:26] <KurtKraut> Psi-Jack, but the download page for Ubuntu says: 'The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu. It provides for the following situations: (...) LVM and/or RAID partitioning;'
[00:28] <Psi-Jack> That's pretty old news, since it's been in since, about 9.04 or even earlier.
[00:30] <HugeCannon> Anyone got any ideas on my network/dns problem?
[00:49] <Psi-Jack> Welp. Now I got my upstart scripts for keepalived and linux-igd. When keepalived starts, linux-igd starts. When keepalived stops, linux-igd stops too. Exactly what I needed cause running linux-igd on two servers at the same time, for active-backup firewall/routing, doesn't work so well. ;)
[00:54] <Psi-Jack> Heh, now about the only thing left is to get upstart definitions for things that do not run as a daemon or fork. Like shorewall, which basically enables firewall rules or disables firewall.
[00:57] <orudie> hi just installed munin with apt-get install munin and i'm getting this error in the browser You don't have permission to access /munin on this server.
[01:02] <SpamapS> orudie: is there an index.html file in the directory yet?
[01:03] <SpamapS> orudie: you may need to wait until munin-graph has produced one
[01:03] <orudie> SpamapS, i think it would just be empty as I've seen it a year ago right after munin install
[01:04] <orudie> SpamapS, yeah index.html is there
[01:05] <SpamapS> orudie: ok can you try it   http://server/munin/index.html   does that work?
[01:05] <orudie> SpamapS, no same error
[01:08] <SpamapS> orudie: weird, maybe the dir's permissions are too restrictive
[01:09] <SpamapS> orudie: I have ot run, but make sure the 'www-data' user can access that directory (including checking the parent directories)
[01:14] <orudie> anyone ?
[01:16] <hey_joe> is libpam_mysql broken in 10.04?
[01:16] <hey_joe> i added the neccesary two lines to /etc/pam.d/common.auth, and restarted...
[01:16] <hey_joe> but it doesnt even attempt to connect to the SQL server
[02:02]  * andreserl TestDrive PyGTK Front-end Demo Released!
[02:09] <hggdh> kirkland: I downloaded your 0ubuntu30.3~ppa1, added the r1231 tentative fix, and uploaded to my PPA. Will test ASAP
[02:31] <orudie> how do I force a user to quit if it shows that he is logged in right now
[02:42] <bogeyd6> orudie, kill his tty or gnome session
[02:42] <webroasters> hey, i upgraded my server the other day to 10.4. I also put postfix on there, and when I try to do the mail command, it works up until i end it with a period . it doesn't close out and send
[02:42] <webroasters> what's wrong with it
[02:42] <webroasters> i just keep putting periods in there, and pressing enter
[02:42] <webroasters> period, enter
[02:42] <webroasters> period enter... nothing
[02:44] <webroasters> any ideas??
[02:44] <ScottK> webroasters: Look in the postfix logs.
[02:45] <Geoff918_> Can anyone answer the following question? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515069&highlight=postgreSQL
[02:47] <webroasters> @ScottK: I just did, and there's some relay access denied stuff for weird ips and email addresses, but I can't find anything substantial
[02:48] <ScottK> webroasters: If you can't find evidence of the sending attempt in your postfix logs, then you aren't talking to postfix.
[02:48] <webroasters> is this it? connect from 83-131-235-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr[83.131.235.81
[02:49] <webroasters> @ScottK: is this it? connect from 83-131-235-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr[83.131.235.81
[02:49] <ScottK> Is that your IP address?
[02:50] <webroasters> @ScottK: not that i can tell from ifconfig
[02:51] <webroasters> @ScottK: it's not from my server or from my home computer
[02:51] <ScottK> Then no.
[02:51] <webroasters> @ScottK: then why isn't the mail command working?
[02:51] <ScottK> webroasters: I'm guessing you're talking to some thing else.
[02:52] <webroasters> @ScottK: it's weird because it was working today for some reason, i think it was
[02:53] <ScottK> First step would be to figure out what you're talking to.  Not sure exactly what to suggest about that.
[02:53] <ScottK> Gotta run
[02:53] <webroasters> @ScottK: ok thank you for your help
[03:04] <webroasters> ok, postfix will send email when I use the mail command from the command line, but not from my application! help, plz!
[03:05] <webroasters> anyone?
[03:09] <webroasters> everyone, nevermind
[03:31] <internalkernel> anyone have any experience using SubjectAltName in SSL? Someone mentioned this as a possible way to direct several SSL hosts to the same IP with Apache. But, now that I'm
[03:31] <internalkernel> looking at it, I don't see how that works...
[06:24] <pohutukawa> Anybody here around who might be willing to discuss a few sentences on an Ubuntu based compute cluster?
[08:24] <LK_> hi, how do in ubuntu 10.04, how do I change the banner that is showed, once you're logged on via ssh?
[08:38] <stanman246> anyone using opie-server?
[08:41] <stanman246> can't get the challenge seed if i try to logon
[09:38] <not-twb_> Never mind, I worked it out on my own.
[10:25] <Daviey> ttx: Are you around?
[10:39] <ttx> Daviey: yes
[10:55] <Daviey> ttx: oh awesome... I need to talk to you about the patch for euca_conf.in
[10:55] <ttx> Daviey: sure
[10:56] <Daviey> ttx: upstream have changed it to be less script, meaning parts of this patch don't apply
[10:56] <Daviey> specifically our bash for $EUCALYPTUS/var/lib/eucalyptus/nodes.list
[10:56] <Daviey> ttx: Is this needed?
[10:56] <ttx> Daviey: link to patch ?
[10:56] <Daviey> ttx: just the parts of the patch i can't apply?
[10:57] <ttx> Daviey: for example
[10:57] <Daviey> ttx: one mo
[10:58] <Daviey> ttx: http://pastebin.daviey.com/b66H/
[10:59] <ttx> hm.
[10:59] <ttx> There are two things here
[10:59] <ttx> One is the replavemùent of echo by xsearch
[10:59] <ttx> the other is the handling of /var/lib/eucalyptus/nodes.list
[11:00] <ttx> Let me explain both
[11:00] <Daviey> ttx: oh sure.. but let me link to the new upstream euca_conf.in (other parts of patch applied, including xsearch present)
[11:00] <ttx> ok
[11:00] <ttx> They used to rely on a simple grep to match IPs
[11:00] <ttx> that meant if you had a node at 192.168.12.120...
[11:00] <Daviey> ttx: yeah.. seems parts of it are funked up somewhat, and wanted to check if it was still needed
[11:01] <ttx> it would prevent a node at 192.168.12.12 to be added
[11:01] <Daviey> ie, i don't know why we do /var/lib/eucalyptus/nodes.list differently
[11:01] <ttx> About the nodes.list...
[11:01] <ttx> Eucalyptus uses /etc/eucalyptus/eucalyptus.conf to store the nodes list
[11:02] <ttx> unfortunately that means that file must be writeable by the autoregistration process
[11:02] <ttx> since it calls euca_conf
[11:02] <ttx> since eucalyptus.conf is sourcesd by root, that led to priv escalation
[11:02] <Daviey> ttx: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/maverick/eucalyptus/devel/annotate/head:/tools/euca_conf.in
[11:03] <ttx> and I didn't want the autoreg process to run as root or as something easily escalated to root
[11:03] <Daviey> ^^ currently, includes other parts of that patch applied
[11:03] <Daviey> ttx: I SEE!
[11:03] <ttx> so we decided to have the NODES in a separate file
[11:03] <Daviey> makes sense
[11:03] <ttx> there is code in eucalyptus to look into that file
[11:04] <ttx> Daviey: it makes so much sense it should just be upstream
[11:04] <ttx> (but that's another topic)
[11:04] <ttx> and code in euca_conf to write to / read from that file
[11:04] <Daviey> ttx: i totally agree.. something i want to do towards the end of this week is discuss ALL of our patches with upstream
[11:05] <Daviey> <-- life would be so much simplier if at least 50% of these went upstream
[11:05] <ttx> Daviey: they are supposed to have upstreamed the first one, which is just a bug
[11:06] <ttx> I suppose it's what the "$itshere" is about
[11:06] <Daviey> ttx: Well the link to the file in bzr ^^, they have changed how it works.. and i'm not fully comfortable trying to revert back to the bash way..
[11:06] <ttx> $its_here, sorry
[11:06] <Daviey> yeah... seems they've done some clever magic
[11:07] <ttx> but we still need the other part applied
[11:07] <Daviey> ttx: Currently investigating a FTBFS, would you be able to have a quick look at how best to approach this?
[11:08] <Daviey> ttx: Yeah, those two hunks are the only two i couldn't get applied from the original patch
[11:08] <ttx> hm, I'm quite swaped today
[11:08] <ttx> swamped
[11:08] <Daviey> ttx: ok
[11:08] <ttx> Just starting... and having to catch up since I left on Thursday
[11:08] <ttx> Got an interview to conduct later today
[11:08] <ttx> Daviey: if I can free up some time, I will
[11:08] <ttx> but not just now
[11:08] <Daviey> yeah, holidays rock.. it's another work for having to catch up time when you get back :)
[11:09] <Daviey> ttx: ok, rocking - thanks.. it's not blocking me atm
[11:10] <ttx> DavidLevin: you shouyld be ok by applying the change_var_value part
[11:10] <ttx> Daviey: ^
[11:10] <ttx> and ignoring the the xsearch one
[11:10] <Daviey> ttx: OK, i'll give that a spin in a bit
[11:11] <Daviey> ttx: seems we have a new build dep on javassist.. at least it's in main.
[11:13] <ttx> Daviey: yes, from that non-applying patch, you should ust apply the parts that replace "change_var_value $FILE NODES "${NODES}"
[11:13] <ttx> The equivalent of xsearch is taken care of
[11:13] <Daviey> ttx: hmm, ok.. it didn't look like $NODES was populated anywhere tho
[11:13] <ttx> They slightly changed the logic...
[11:13] <ttx> it is
[11:14] <ttx> line 1476-1477
[11:14] <Daviey> ah, so it is
[11:14] <Daviey> thanks ttx
[11:14] <ttx> First part of 1444
[11:14] <ttx> Second part is 1476-1477
[11:15] <ttx> Daviey: np. For the record, that patch was from smoser
[11:15] <Danawar1> is it ok to host a CSS server on http://www.linode.com/?
[11:15] <Daviey> ttx: oh right, i thought that was your handy work :)
[11:15] <Daviey> Danawar1: You'll have to ask linode :)
[11:15] <ttx> Daviey: that was my bug :)
[11:15] <Daviey> ahh
[11:16] <ttx> I dound and reported it
[11:16] <ttx> found, even
[11:16] <ttx> and the NODES rewrite was done by Dan Nurmi himself when we were working on autoreg
[11:17]  * ttx lunches
[11:20] <Danawar1> Does any one here own a linode?
[11:30] <kklimonda> Danawar1: I do
[11:54] <Danawar1> kklimonda: are they any good? how fast is the internet?
[12:15] <kklimonda> Danawar1: pretty good, I don't really know how fast the internet is, I don't use it for distributing anything big enough for that to matter.
[12:19] <Danawar1> Was thining of using it for a CSS server with a webserver
[13:01] <Daviey> ttx: Silly question, but how can i modify the classpath for build time?
[13:02] <ttx> Ah!
[13:02]  * ttx looks into that
[13:03]  * ttx admits being the one having written /that/
[13:03] <Daviey> ttx: i've tried a few different things.. setting CLASSPATH in debian/rules = no dice
[13:03] <ttx> I think it is debian/build-jars
[13:03]  * ttx checks
[13:04] <Daviey> modifying upstream module-inc.xml = no joy
[13:04] <Daviey> and modifing .classpath = no joy
[13:04] <ttx> for jar in `cat ../debian/build-jars`; do ln -fsv $$jar lib; done
[13:04] <ttx> yep
[13:04] <soren> Daviey: Variables set in debian/rules are not exported to the environment by default.
[13:04] <ttx> debian/rules sets up links at build time
[13:04] <soren> Daviey: ...if that matters.
[13:04] <ttx> based on debian/build-jars
[13:04] <Daviey> soren: yeah.. wondered if there was some magic in there to do that.
[13:04] <Daviey> ttx: awesome
[13:05] <ttx> Daviey: not to be mistaken with run-time...
[13:05] <soren> Daviey: Sure. Just export it.
[13:05] <Daviey> ttx: run time i think is ok already tbh
[13:05] <ttx> where you'd use the links as defined in debian/eucalyptus-java-common.links
[13:05] <Daviey> soren: did that
[13:05] <Daviey> ttx: yup, that is there
[13:05] <soren> Daviey: Oh. Then it is exported to the environment :)
[13:06] <Daviey> soren: builder doesn't seem to be honouring $CLASSPATH
[13:06]  * Daviey tries ttx's game
[13:07] <ttx> Daviey: of course that doesn't prevent you from specifying the right build-time and runtime deps in debian/control
[13:07] <Daviey> ttx: done that!
[13:08]  * Daviey fires off a build. 
[13:08] <Daviey> ...and puts the kettle on
[13:13] <Daviey> ttx: That did it! \o/
[13:13] <ttx> Daviey: yay
[13:24] <zul> morning
[13:33] <rgreening> hey zul
[13:33] <zul> hi
[13:34] <rgreening> zul: been working on that racksmith package and have it patched to pull out jquery and jquery-ui before packaging and dep on the system ones. Yay.
[13:34] <zul> cool
[13:35] <rgreening> Im close to being able to upload the package
[13:35] <rgreening> zul: Im working with upstream to rework their code base, which would make this cleaner for all. Hopefully Ill have a patch for them this week for that.
[13:36] <zul> rgreening: sounds good
[13:37] <rgreening> zul: think there would be any issue with getting jquery and jquery-ui from maverick backported to lucid? racksmith will need to be backported to lucid for me as well and it requires the versions in maverick.
[13:37] <zul> rgreening: i dunno i dont know anything about jquery
[13:38] <rgreening> ok. Well, I will likely just submit the request and see where it goes I guess :)
[13:38] <rgreening> heh
[13:38] <sommer> morning all
[13:46] <sommer> ScottK: when you get a chance can you renew my clamav team membership... got a message saying it will expire in 7 days :-)
[14:08] <hggdh> morning smoser
[14:10] <Krazyderek> what's the best way to setup a hot swap drive for backup? drive imaging or backupPC ?
[14:15] <chris_n> I'm looking for documentation/guide covering setting up Ubuntu server to do AAA in a network environment with Ubuntu desktops
[14:15] <zul> hey smoser
[14:18] <hggdh> smoser: which UEC images should be used to test? The release ones, or the dailies?
[14:18] <kirkland> hggdh: mine?  i assume daviey or ccheney did that?
[14:19] <hggdh> kirkland: sorry, I lost you
[14:19] <hggdh> mine what?
 20:09:54> kirkland: I downloaded your 0ubuntu30.3~ppa1, added the r1231 tentative fix, and uploaded to my PPA. Will test ASAP
[14:19] <kirkland> hggdh: oh, you uploaded to your ppa
[14:19] <kirkland> okay
[14:20] <hggdh> kirkland: yes, but I am getting a failure on quilt, will have to look at it
[14:20] <kirkland> hggdh: Daviey should help you
[14:20] <hggdh> kirkland: ack
[14:25] <Daviey> hggdh: \o
[14:30] <smoser> hggdh, what are you wanting to test ?
[14:30] <smoser> zul, here. whats up.
[14:31] <zul> smoser: nothing....jut saying hi
[14:32] <smoser> hggdh, hggdh if this is to test those eucalyptus fixes, i would suggest the dailies.  the released images do not have the better debug output (waiting for ... )
[14:42] <Daviey> hggdh: There is a euca build currently under way in my ppa
[14:43] <Daviey> hggdh: https://edge.launchpad.net/~davewalker/+archive/uec-testing/+packages <-- almost finished
[14:47] <bogeyd6> I cant believe to get rdiff to work from windows to ubuntu you had to redirect output to a file
[14:51] <ScottK> sommer: I'm pretty sure you can renew it yourself.  There should be a link in the message.
[14:51] <hggdh> smoser: on jaguar we were using the released UEC image
[14:51] <hggdh> smoser: I think we should be running the current, but wanted to check
[14:51] <hggdh> Daviey: you rock
[14:51] <Daviey> hggdh: NO U!
[14:51] <Daviey> :)
[14:52] <hggdh> Daviey: YOU do!
[14:52] <hggdh> heh
[14:52] <sommer> ScottK: it has a link to the clamav team page, and your lp page, and there's no link to renew membership on the clamav page...
[14:52] <Daviey> hggdh: bah.. FTBFS.. i guess i don't rock. :(
[14:52] <smoser> hggdh, i would like for you to test dailies
[14:52] <smoser> there shouldn't be any real fallout, and i'm hoping to make a daily release soon
[14:52] <ScottK> OK
[14:53] <smoser> a new released.  there is a landscape bug that the landscape folks want integrated.
[14:55] <Jack-in-Box> anyone know what is the easiest ftp server to use on ubuntu....  tried wu-ftpd, but its kina wierd
[14:55] <Jack-in-Box> kinda*
[14:55] <Daviey> hggdh: Working on a fix now
[14:56] <ScottK> sommer: Done.
[14:56] <sommer> ScottK: thanks man, I appreciate it :)
[15:11] <hggdh> smoser: will do. Today we saw an error in the instance -- fsck failed, mountall failed, etc. I wanted to use a more up-to-date UEC image, this is why I asked you.
[15:11] <hggdh> Daviey: you still rock :-)
[15:12] <smoser> hggdh, i've not seen such an error. do you have an explaination ? or could you open a bug ?
[15:12] <ttx> Daviey: if you have something working reasonably well, I may be able to break it -- I'd need you to test building and running with ehcache-2.1.0
[15:12] <ttx> hmmm...
[15:12]  * ttx considers testing from Lucid first, and do it himself
[15:13] <ttx> Daviey: forget what I just said :)
[15:14] <Daviey> ttx: np
[15:17] <hggdh> smoser: I can open a bug, yes, but all we have is this single console output, on a superseeded kernel :-(
[15:29] <EvilTrek> is there a way in terminal to specify a time offset?
[15:30] <EvilTrek> i have a VPS running Ubuntu located in Germany running on UTC time, i'd really like to change what timezone it shows
[15:32] <Daviey> hggdh: There is amd64 of 1.6.2-0ubuntu30.3.2 in that PPA
[15:34] <hggdh> Daviey: you do rock, sir. Much, many, and all that, thanks
[15:34] <Daviey> hggdh: np, thanks
[15:34] <hggdh> Daviey: er, where's your PPA?
[15:35] <Daviey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~davewalker/+archive/uec-testing/+packages
[15:36] <hggdh> great, thaks
[15:36] <Daviey> hggdh: so ppa:davewalker/uec-testing
[15:38] <Jack-in-Box> any recomendations for a simple ftp server
[15:38] <Psi-Jack> Jack-in-Box: ProFTPD, PureFTPD, vsftpd, apt-cache search ftp
[15:39] <Jack-in-Box> tried wu-ftpd and it was awkward, which is the simplest to use of the ones u mentioned
[15:39] <Psi-Jack> Jack-in-Box: I don't know. You'll have to find out for yourself. Have fun with that.
[15:39] <Jack-in-Box> ok, thanks...
[15:39] <Psi-Jack> 15 years, everything's "simple" to me.
[15:41] <ne7work> hello all i have problem with phpmyadmin please someone help me
[15:41] <Jack-in-Box> lol
[15:41] <Jack-in-Box> fair enough
[15:41] <ne7work> hmm
[15:41] <Psi-Jack> ne7work: There's a box I can't open. Do you know what's wrong?
[15:41] <ne7work> Jack-in-Box, I write sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www
[15:42] <ne7work> and http://78.83.153.108/phpmyadmin
[15:42] <Shapeshiftr> hey
[15:42] <Tero> I am trying to install ubuntu 10.04LTS server to IBM X3650M2. It has Hardware RAID5 configuration. Everything goes fine but after installation I cant boot into it. Wondering if it's UEFI issue or RAID-issue (hardly?). Only way I can bring it up is to boot from CD and choose "boot from first hard disk". Any ideas are welcome.
[15:43] <Shapeshiftr> I'm having trouble configuring/installing postfix
[15:43] <Shapeshiftr> anyone think they may be able to help?
[15:43] <Psi-Jack> Shapeshiftr: There's a box I can't open. Do you know what's wrong?
[15:43] <Shapeshiftr> Tero, it might have something to do with your partitioning
[15:44] <Shapeshiftr> what type of RAID are you using?
[15:44] <Shapeshiftr> Psi-Jack, huh?
[15:44] <Tero> Shapeshiftr: I chose the automatic with LVM. But I also tried without LVM..
[15:44] <Psi-Jack> Shapeshiftr: Exactly. That's what your question sounded like. :0
[15:44] <Shapeshiftr> Yeah, I know. I was waiting to see if anyone was there to hel pbefore I gave all the details.
[15:44] <Tero> Shapeshiftr: installed Vmware esxi to samekind of box and no problems at all.
[15:44] <Psi-Jack> Shapeshiftr: Basically, ask a more thorough question, or even try #postfix. The guys there know postfix like the back of their hands. ;)
[15:45] <Shapeshiftr> oh, awesome.
[15:45] <Shapeshiftr> *gives freenode much love*
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[15:45] <Psi-Jack> Right now, I'm learning as much as I can about upstart. Pretty sweet when you actually understand it.
[15:46] <Psi-Jack> And it looks like it's going to put djb's daemon-tools to shamble. ;)
[15:49] <Shapeshiftr> upstart? what is?
[15:50] <Psi-Jack> Ubuntu's newer init system.
[15:50] <Psi-Jack> Since 8.10
[15:54] <ccheney> kirkland, for ebs testing addition should it be a separate code path from the regular testing that uec-testing-scripts does currently, to just do ebs testing?
[15:55] <kirkland> ccheney: good question ... mathiaz and hggdh would be the best people to ask on the organization of that code
[15:55] <ccheney> kirkland, ok
[15:55] <ccheney> hggdh, ping ^
[15:55] <kirkland> ccheney: thanks
[15:57] <hggdh> ccheney: I am not sure, and think that we should really discuss it
[15:58] <Daviey> ttx: We has a problem. :(..  Seems ecua 1.7 is using a newer version of gwt
[15:58] <ttx> ...
[15:59]  * ttx wonders what happened to advanec warnings of library transitions
[15:59] <Daviey> ttx: i know, thankfully it's only euca that depends on it.. Okay if i upgrade it?
[16:00] <ttx> Daviey: sure, but it can be tricky
[16:00] <Daviey> ttx: Yeah.. they must have been aware of needing to bump.
[16:00] <Daviey> ttx: Shall i make a start, and let you know of any gotcha's
[16:00] <ttx> Daviey: Chris Grze... is your friend when it comes to patching so that it builds
[16:00] <Daviey> ttx: I see you originally debianzed it.. can i ask you to review and sponsor when done?
[16:01] <ttx> Daviey: sure... just make sure it buids and works for you first
[16:01] <ccheney> hggdh, ok
[16:01]  * ccheney bbs
[16:02] <Daviey> ttx: Other than getting it to work with euca' is there an easy test?
[16:02] <ttx> ISTR there was a testsuite enabled
[16:03] <Daviey> ok... i'll invstigate
[16:03] <Daviey> ttx: Without checking, are we Debian's upstream on this>?
[16:08]  * ccheney back
[16:08] <ttx> Daviey: on a call, will bbl
[16:12] <Daviey> wilco
[16:50] <ttx> Daviey: Debian recently adopted our package
[16:50] <ttx> Daviey: so we *were* upstream
[16:50] <ttx> Daviey: now it's up for grabs
[16:53] <Daviey> ttx: Question is.. should i submit this package to Debian?
[16:54] <Daviey> ttx: And the patches make me want to cry :)
[16:54]  * SpamapS is a bit confused as to why he flew to Santa Clara today, when his conference pass for velocity does not include any of the events for today. :-/
[16:55]  * SpamapS is also quite annoyed that the conference organizers have decided to put no tables or chairs anywhere near the conference. :-P
[17:00] <ttx> Daviey: right, that's what I meant by "Chris made it build for us"
[17:22] <SpamapS> “Metrics are all bullshit unless you can tie them to the business” -- Sean Power
[17:22] <SpamapS>  circa 5 minutes ago. :)
[17:22] <kirkland> smoser: ping
[17:23] <kirkland> smoser: how long do you think it would take to package ovf (and test and get it it working) for Ubuntu?
[17:30] <maek> is there an ubuntu equivilent to kickstart ? is it pre seed?
[17:31] <jcastro> you can kickstart ubuntu too
[17:37] <maek> jcastro: oh. is that the optimal way to do it?
[17:38] <jcastro> maek: that's the way I do it, dunno about optimal, that depends on how comfortable you are with either one or the other
[17:39] <maek> I know kickstart very well. I was just wondering what the ubuntu way is. I was reading about being able to pre seed mysql root user passwords and etc
[17:54] <smoser> kirkland, it depends on what you mean by "ovf".
[17:58] <hggdh> ccheney: you there
[17:59] <hggdh> ?
[17:59] <ccheney> hggdh, yea in a desktop meeting atm, whats up?
[18:06] <benedikt> I have a ubuntu server that uses the -generic kernel. I want to switch to the -server kernel. Installing the metapackage linux-image-server doesnt install a -server kernel.
[18:07] <smoser> benedikt, it gets you what you need.
[18:07] <ccheney> hggdh, done with meeting now, about to go to lunch unless you wanted to say something before then?
[18:08] <smoser> i'm assuming you're on i386
[18:08] <benedikt> smoser: no. it just installs the metapacke, no actual kernels.
[18:08] <benedikt> yes, i386
[18:08] <smoser> it doesn't install a linux-image-*pae ?
[18:08] <benedikt> no, but i have -2.6.32-22-generic-pae
[18:08] <benedikt> i want -server ;-)
[18:09] <jdstrand> zul: thanks for the NTPD_DEVICE fix in the apparmor profile. Interestingly, upstream apparmor had 'rw', but we didn't in our shipped profile
[18:09]  * ccheney bbl, lunch
[18:09] <jdstrand> I blame me
[18:09] <smoser> benedikt, on i386 -server == -pae
[18:09] <zul> jdstrand: no problem
[18:09] <benedikt> generic-pae != -server
[18:10] <pmatulis> benedikt: yeah, there is no i386 server kernel anymore
[18:10] <benedikt> oh, that would explain it
[18:10] <benedikt> then ill stick to the -generic
[18:14] <hggdh> ccheney: no, go grab lunch
[18:15] <dasunsrule32> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me troubleshoot some issues with postifx/dovecot?
[19:01] <kirkland> hggdh: do you think you'll be able to test the fix for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/566792 today?
[19:09] <hggdh> kirkland: yes, I will.
[19:12] <nube> i have a ubuntu server 10.04 installed and was thinking of doing a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" in case someone else has to use the machine that is not familiar with *nix..  there is a huge list of what will be installed if i do, but I'm not sure how it will effect the system as I already have everything configured how I want it as it is
[19:12] <n0body> hey guys, i have an issue with dhcp3-server, i need it to run on a bridge (br0) and its starting on bootup before the bridge is up. any ideas? im new at this ubuntu
[19:13] <n0body> http://pastebin.org/351436 is my /etc/network/interfaces
[19:13] <n0body> http://pastebin.org/351446 is the error i get in syslog
[19:13] <n0body> i can ssh in after boot and manually start it.
[19:15] <n0body> so waht i need to do is, either start networking earlier, or dhcpd later. any ideas?
[19:19] <n0body> anyone?
[19:50] <jjohansen> Daviey: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/597387
[19:50] <kirkland> hggdh: great, and show the rest of your peeps in Lexington what you're doing and how?
[19:53] <hggdh> kirkland: yes, that's the idea -- but I want to get the protocol done ASAP
[19:55] <kirkland> hggdh: k
[19:56] <dasunsrule32> Hi I am getting this error with Dovecot/Postfix, it just started happening this last week with the new dovecot updates. Any ideas would be helpful. Thank you. postfix/smtpd[4467]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth-client failed: No such file or directory
[19:56] <dasunsrule32> Jun 22 11:53:49 sol postfix/smtpd[4467]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[20:04] <smoser> kees, are you around ?
[20:05] <smoser> jdstrand, maybe...
[20:06] <smoser> i'd like some "security team review" of ebsmount.  its considered (by me) to be in a not so good position right now, and I'd like to talk with someone security team and the ebs folks (alonswartz) to see what we can do to make that better.
[20:07] <smoser> SpamapS, ping
[20:13] <Gerwin> I can't seem to install mail-server using tasksel, it tells me tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[20:14] <hggdh> kirkland: looks good so far. I will run another 200 instances with a smaller delay between instance startup, and then I will leave a 2,000-instance run during the evening
[20:22] <smoser> hggdh, so it looks like they've fixed this bug ?
[20:23] <n0body> anyone got skills on upstart? i need to make my networking start asap, since it creates a bridge, and other things need it to be ready (dhcpd, hostapd, squid etc) and its not built when they start
[20:24] <n0body> at least i think its upstart i need to configure, god knows. basically i just need networking to start sooner, or for it to block until the bridge is ready
[20:24] <n0body> http://pastebin.org/351740
[20:26] <kirkland> hggdh: oh, okay, that's a good thing, right?
[20:26] <kirkland> hggdh: should we go ahead and get it uploaded to lucid-proposed?
[20:26] <kirkland> hggdh: would you just give me a status update before you call it a day?
[20:26] <kirkland> hggdh: if this still looks good, i'll get this uploaded to lucid-proposed, and we can try an SRU
[20:33] <hggdh> kirkland: I will update you, yes. Give me some 40 min, and the second run will end.
[20:34] <hggdh> kirkland: and, yes, this is most certainly a Good Thing (TM) :-)
[20:36] <andreserl> kirkland, I'm wondering if you have seen this behavior on lucid: I was listening to something, then I started VM's, then I closed what I was listening and opened the program again to listen something else, however, sound is no longer working.
[20:39] <kees> smoser: can you go through robbiew for that?  we're pretty swamped at the moment, but yeah, based on what I've seen in the channel, ebsmount is scary
[20:45] <kirkland> andreserl: hmm, sounds like a pulseaudio issue
[20:46] <andreserl> kirkland, it looks like it indeed, since I killed my VM's and still no sound
[20:50] <dasunsrule32> Can anyone help me look at an issue with dovecot/postfix?
[20:50] <dasunsrule32> I keep getting: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[20:50] <n0body> i hacked it, and started the neccesary services with post-up in interfaces
[20:50] <n0body> i feel dirty
[20:50] <n0body> upstart sucks
[21:13] <MTecknology> I'm about to have a package built in LP - I made some changes that could potentially break things. ISo I'm wondering- how can I roll back the update if it does break things?
[21:22] <kusznir> Hi all: I'm trying to boot a ubuntu 10.04 xen guest on a xen server of different OS, and I am having problems.
[21:23] <kusznir> Specifically, I get  "Error: bootloader did not return any data!"
[21:23] <kusznir> How do I work around this / fix it to boot this domain?
[21:23] <kusznir> (the install worked fine, btw)
[21:27] <robyn> Hello
[21:31] <SpamapS> smoser: pong
[21:33] <ruben23> hi guys any opensosurce application i can bond 2 different DSL connection and achive added badwidth with it...
[21:35] <robyn> question - trying to install 10.04 32bit ( also tried 9.10 32bit) server on a system without cdrom - created usb boot drive per instructions using pendrivelinux utilities - install gets to looking for cdrom and can't find itself on the usb drive - does the same thing on my work station - any thoughts?
[21:37] <robyn> ruben23, looked to do the same thing awhile back - didn't find anything usless the dsl where already a bonded pair
[21:40] <cdubya> what all packages get installed in the tasksel option for samba-server?
[21:40] <hggdh> kirkland: nah, no cigar. We still have instances failing to acquire a pub IP
[21:41] <kusznir> Is there an "easy" way to downgrade grub in 10.04 server?
[21:42] <kirkland> hggdh: same ratio?
[21:45] <hggdh> kirkland: no, seems better -- around 6% failure, as opposed to ~10% before (o r1230)
[21:46] <hggdh> kirkland: I will leave the 2,000 instances running just for completeness. But I am uploading the current logs
[21:47] <kirkland> hggdh: okay
[21:48] <panfist> is postfix configured as 'local only' suitable for use as a LAN email server, or is that really just specific to the one physical host
[21:50] <lamont> panfist: it doesn't listen to the network socket when you say that
[21:51] <panfist> ahh
[22:18] <pehden> hi all
[22:19] <pehden> any one alive in here>
[22:29] <ccheney> jjohansen, any status update on the kernels?
[22:30] <jjohansen> ccheney: I haven't gotten to them yet, tim neither, and andy won't come on line for a few hours.
[22:30] <jjohansen> I can kick off a couple builds soon
[22:30] <ccheney> ok
[22:30] <jjohansen> atop on the other hand is working on lucid and kamal is now trying it in maverick
[22:31] <jjohansen> he did lucid first as the patches are .33 based
[22:40] <kirkland> soren: okay, filed Bug #597459, per your request yesterday
[22:40] <kirkland> soren: i need a little more information on what i'd need to do to use vmbuilder to create an image that I could dd to a physical disk somewhere and get it to boot correctly
[22:54] <soren> kirkland: Well, as a start, you could just let it create the qcow2 and convert it back to a raw image.
[22:54] <soren> kirkland: qemu-img can do that.
[22:54] <kirkland> soren: k, i have it in a raw image
[22:55] <kirkland> soren: i dd that to a physical (from a livecd)
[22:55] <soren> Yup.
[22:55] <kirkland> soren: grub seems to be installed, that's good ...  i end up in an initramfs shell though
[22:55] <kirkland> soren: wasn't able to mount the root disk
[22:55] <kirkland> soren: in initramfs, i only see sda
[22:55] <kirkland> soren: do i need to partition the disk from the livecd first?
[22:55]  * soren ponders that
[22:55] <kirkland> soren: or more prep i need to do to the image?
[22:56] <kirkland> soren: or some better way of using dd ?
[22:56] <soren> I don't think so , no.
[22:56] <soren> What exactly did you do?
[22:58] <kirkland> soren: i changed the one line as shown in bug #597459
[22:58] <kirkland> soren: s/qcow2/raw/
[22:58] <kirkland> soren: sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu
[22:58] <kirkland> soren: i end up with a 5000MB raw disk image
[22:58] <kirkland> soren: on a test laptop, i boot a lucid desktop livecd
[22:58] <kirkland> soren: i rsync over the 5000MB raw disk image, foo.img
[22:59] <kirkland> soren: then from the livecd env, i 'sudo dd if=foo.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M'
[22:59] <kirkland> soren: make a pot of coffee
[22:59] <kirkland> soren: and then reboot
[23:00] <soren> I would have thought that would work.
[23:00] <kirkland> soren: me too ...
[23:00] <kirkland> soren: so the error I get is that /dev/disk/by-uuid/whatever is not found
[23:00] <kirkland> soren: and then dumped to initramfs
[23:00] <soren> kirkland: right. It doesn't even find the partition table, you say?
[23:00] <kirkland> soren: so i edit the grub menu on boot
[23:01] <kirkland> soren: and replaced it with /dev/sda1
[23:01] <kirkland> soren: right, in initramfs, i see /dev/sda, but no /dev/sda1
[23:01] <soren> Ok.
[23:01]  * kirkland feels a little better, that soren thinks this *should* have worked
[23:01] <kirkland> b/c I did too :-)
[23:02] <soren> Ô_ó
[23:02] <soren> Just for giggles...
[23:03] <soren> Could you try booting the live cd again and run "kvm -hda /dev/sda"?
[23:07] <kirkland> sure
[23:07] <kirkland> soren: i'm just redoing the dd now
[23:10] <soren> kirkland: ok
[23:13] <kusznir> How does one set the apt mirror to use when in command line only mode?
[23:14] <kusznir> (i.e., no X installed)
[23:14] <kirkland> soren: heh, kvm booted perfectly off of sda
[23:15] <kirkland> soren: okay, i'm trying to boot again off of the real hw
[23:16] <kirkland> soren: okay, same thing
[23:16] <kirkland> soren: from real hardware
[23:19] <hackeron_> hey, my ubuntu server is not booting correctly, I'm not getting a login prompt and when I ssh into the box, /var/log/boot.log just shows fsck: /dev/md0: clean, 31476007/60989440 files, 209228064/243940976 blocks (check in 4 mounts) -- and nothing like apache or postgres is started, I have to start those manually over ssh - any ideas what is causing the problem?
[23:23] <kirkland> soren: ie, same thing == error when booting real hardware from /dev/sda
[23:29] <hackeron_> I tried adding VERBOSE=yes to /etc/default/rcS and boot is still hanging and nothing more in boot.log :(
[23:30] <hackeron_> I can ssh into the box, but it doesn't start half the services or show the login prompt
[23:31] <hackeron_> how would I diagnose the problem?
[23:32] <soren> kirkland: Fascinating :)
[23:32] <soren> kirkland: Can you file a bug about this, too?
[23:32] <kirkland> soren: sure
[23:32] <kirkland> soren: i'll provide more detailed info
[23:34] <soren> kirkland: Thanks, man.
[23:34]  * soren heads bedwards
[23:39] <hackeron_> wtf, after installing bootchart, it now boots