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likemindeadWhat kind of delay, alvin-laptop00:00
IncrStormNo, but they gave me a great idea, LOL. Look for docs from the package that didn't come up.00:01
alvin-laptopFor some reason, xubuntu waits for a while before it launchs into the script00:03
likemindeadCould be hardware related, alvin-laptop, and something needs to be blacklisted.00:04
alvin-laptopdo you mean changing the boot sequence?00:05
alvin-laptopI have already disabled the floppy drive in the bios00:06
_Techie_does anyone here have any experience with ATI Crossfire setups in *buntu?00:08
likemindeadCheck "Session and Startup" in the Xfce 4 Settings Manager.00:09
alvin-laptopI will give it a shot00:09
knomelikemindead, but that's after the login screen00:10
likemindeadAh...00:10
Sysithere isn't something to be showed on the screen for every second00:11
alvin-laptopknome: burning the candle at both ends I see00:12
_Techie_Sysi and knome what graphcis cards do you guys use? ATI or nVidia?00:13
likemindeadJust how slow is your boot, alvin-laptop?00:14
Sysinvidia00:14
knome_Techie_, i've used both, but i have no idea about crossfire00:14
likemindeadNVIDIA and Intel here.00:14
Sysicrossfire sound's non-working, does google know?00:14
alvin-laptopNot slow...It's as though it's waiting for something - perhaps a login screen00:15
likemindeadOkay.00:15
knomefrom my experience, i'd say that's just normal00:15
_Techie_i gues ill have to document what i do when i get my new rig00:16
likemindeadXubuntu takes slightly longer to boot than Ubuntu for me on a couple of different laptops. Ten seconds, maybe.00:16
alvin-laptopCan't you force it to go directly into the load up script00:17
knomealvin-laptop, that would mean removing something from the boot, it does not wait just for fun ;)00:18
alvin-laptopit just sit there...as though it not sure what to do next00:18
alvin-laptoplol00:18
_Techie_it could be a cycle to check whether something loaded correctly00:19
_Techie_i would think that if the startup halted for a moment, it would not be without a good reason00:20
knomealvin-laptop, i'm sure it calculates something really important00:20
knomealvin-laptop, just think you were the guy who was given the pencil and paper and told to draw the login screen again and again!00:20
alvin-laptopI can't really complain - once in there is no waiting for anything else to load00:21
alvin-laptopcarbon paper:P00:21
knomeSysi, ^ note the sarcasm in that sentence? :P00:21
alvin-laptopI do indeed00:21
Sysiknome: i was about to mention00:21
knomealvin-laptop, you couldn't know ;)00:22
alvin-laptopmust be a linux joke00:22
knomeactually a xubuntu joke...00:22
alvin-laptopdo tell00:22
knomei used to work as the marketing lead, thus, drawing the login screens...00:22
Sysimarketing/artwork00:23
knomemmh00:23
_Techie_... you two never cease to amaze me00:23
knome_Techie_, me and... m?00:23
knome*me00:23
_Techie_you and Sysi00:23
knomeheh00:23
Sysifinnish power :P00:23
_Techie_lol00:23
knomefinnish embarrassment00:23
knome:P00:24
_Techie_maybe one day ill head over your way and maybe some of it will rub off on me00:24
knomemaybe... just maybe00:24
knomeit doesn't stick very easily00:24
Sysisee Humon at DeaviantArt00:25
alvin-laptopknome: did you watch cooking with coolie - what did you think00:25
knomealvin-laptop, no, didn't ;)00:25
Sysisome jokes propably don't catch non-northern people00:25
alvin-laptopwere can you get decent wallpaper?00:26
alvin-laptopThere are only a few on offer in the default selection00:27
knomewhat's wrong with the ones shipped?00:28
Sysixfce- / gnome-look.org00:28
alvin-laptopnothing marketing guru...you did a lovely job00:28
_Techie_http://4walled.org/00:28
likemindeadI like wallbase.net or boards.4chan.org/wg/ if you're brave.00:28
knomealvin-laptop, hah, no really, want to know so i can improve :P00:28
alvin-laptopknome: The colour schemes are a little dark in my opinion... Although I like the designs it can be hard to read the screen at times00:29
* likemindead loves the Shiki themes.00:30
knomealvin-laptop, okay :)00:31
alvin-laptopdo you ship the metacity theme by default00:31
Sysixubuntu uses xfwm00:32
knomethere's not metacity themes in xfce, but xfwm00:32
Sysihttp://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/kuvat/Screenshot.png00:32
Sysii love and knome hates that00:32
knomepretty much.00:32
alvin-laptoptechie: I tried that page - mostly porn00:33
Sysii've changed irssi theme to more green00:33
knomehttp://emonk.fi/temp/Screenshot.png00:33
knomeSysi, note my kewl wallpaper00:34
Sysiyeah00:34
likemindeadhttp://www.amarillolinux.com/mb/gallery/30_20_06_10_7_59_07.png00:34
alvin-laptopSysi: That an excellent theme - where did you get it00:35
likemindeadMy latest. (It changes almost hourly...)00:35
Sysii'll take updated screenie00:35
Sysialvin-laptop: charcoal, gnome-look00:35
Sysiwindow border is self-made00:35
alvin-laptoptotorro00:35
Sysii should upload it to somewhere00:36
knomeSysi, try xfce-look.org :P00:36
alvin-laptopknome: I like the simplicity of your desktop00:36
Sysiknome: when i get it done..00:36
knomealvin-laptop, yep, i focus on usability and getting things done00:36
knomealvin-laptop, contrary to Sysi, as you can see from his comment00:37
alvin-laptopknome: the best method in my opinion00:37
Sysithis is usable00:37
Sysiitherly i'd use more opacity00:37
knomeSysi, note the irony on my last :P00:37
alvin-laptop=-O00:37
Sysiknome: i noted it's only the half :)00:37
Sysismile :)00:38
Sysii'll upload this in a few minutes00:39
* knome has some coke and cookies00:39
knomeno more beer in the house :(00:39
alvin-laptop:'(00:39
Sysimmh coke00:40
alvin-laptopHang on - you have coke and cookies?00:40
knomewarm coke actually :|00:40
alvin-laptopaaahhh00:40
knomealvin-laptop, sure. i even have cold coke in the fridge00:40
knomeand more cookies in the closet00:40
alvin-laptopyou finish and your sookies00:40
alvin-laptopI'm mean cookes00:41
alvin-laptopdam it cookies00:41
knome...and "finnish"00:41
alvin-laptopThank you - we all know I can;t spell00:41
alvin-laptopanother mistake00:41
alvin-laptoplet all laugh00:41
knomehey, i wasn't the one who skipped english lessons!00:42
knomeoh wait, i was00:42
Sysiargh this broadband00:44
Sysiscp stucks00:45
knomehello cody-somerville00:45
Sysihttp://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/kuvat/Screenshot.png00:46
cody-somervillehi00:46
Sysii guess there's even more to hate00:46
knomeuh, all those gradients00:46
Sysiknome: are we the worst offtopic here?00:46
alvin-laptopbe back in one moment00:46
knomeSysi, definitely00:47
Sysisleepytiemz → (see the time at screenie)00:48
knomeSysi, good night boy00:48
Sysii don't wanna sleep all time when parents are away00:48
knomehah :P00:48
Sysig'night old man00:48
knomethank you kid00:49
likemindeadOld man, eh?00:49
knomelikemindead, older than Sysi :P00:49
likemindeadAll of 24? ;-)00:50
_Techie_NSFW--- http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t212/xperiment62/Screenshot.png00:50
knomemm-hmm :)00:50
knome_Techie_, please, we're trying to keep the channel family friendly00:50
_Techie_i listed NSFW00:51
knomestill00:51
likemindeadI give it a facepalm.jpg _Techie_00:51
knomepeople might not recognise the acronym, also, we're logged00:51
_Techie_http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t212/xperiment62/wallpaper-1.png00:53
_Techie_thats safe for work00:53
* likemindead just installed Linux on his father-in-law's laptop. :D01:47
patrickHII03:09
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Raggs_hu Guest3089203:10
Guest30892how fast is xubuntu in comparison to ubuntu03:11
Guest30892( im on a hp mini 210 )03:11
Raggs_it is 22.5 % faster03:12
Raggs_that isnt a fact of course03:12
Guest30892loll03:12
Guest30892but like03:12
Guest30892boot time is all i care about03:12
Guest30892:P03:12
Raggs_it is faster, not sure how much though03:12
Guest30892im just hoping for something that is around 20 seconds03:13
Raggs_then again ubuntu is quick also03:13
Raggs_hmmm03:13
Guest30892yeah im on normal ubuntu now03:13
Guest30892it takes like 25 to 30 seconds03:13
Raggs_worth a try i guess, possibly change what gets started at startup03:14
Guest30892yeah03:14
Guest30892like how long does it take you to boot up?03:14
Guest30892(your system i mean :P)03:14
Raggs_i havent timed it03:15
Raggs_and i am running an xubuntu / ubuntu thing atm03:15
Guest30892like dual?03:17
Raggs_no, it started as ubuntu, and now it is xubuntu as well03:18
Guest30892ohh haha03:18
Raggs_and some large apps added, netbeans, virtualbox, wine03:19
Guest30892alright03:19
Guest30892like the thing is03:19
Guest30892i like the new ubuntu, ( no brown and orange ) and the new apps and features03:20
Raggs_then keep it03:20
Guest30892i mean ubuntu in general03:20
Guest30892like *buntus03:20
Raggs_the brown was ugly03:20
Guest30892the thing is about *buntus is the bloat that comes with any version no matter what, BECAUSE they are focused on making it simple to use03:21
Guest30892i agree03:21
Raggs_Guest30892, so you want the smallest distro possible?03:21
Guest30892not smallest distro possible03:21
Guest30892but like03:21
Guest30892something that is nice and fast03:22
Guest30892preferably not based on ubuntu03:22
Raggs_lol03:22
Guest30892:P03:22
Raggs_how much do you know about linux?03:22
Guest30892well ive been using it for a year or so03:23
Guest30892more than basic knowledge i would say03:23
Guest30892i can do some command line, and get my way out of problems03:23
Raggs_so setting up flash and java isnt a problem03:23
Guest30892not at all03:24
Raggs_ever use Debian?03:24
Guest30892nope03:24
Raggs_possibly worth a shot, but you will lose the ease of use03:25
Guest30892hmm03:25
Raggs_but Debian with fxce4 is much quicker than xubuntu03:25
Guest30892i just googled debian hp mini 210, and it said there was lots  of problems with the compatibility with this netbook03:26
Raggs_there is really nothing wrong with ubuntu03:26
Raggs_or xubuntu03:27
Guest30892but i like the idea of debian/arch/gentoo of installing your own de and/or window manager03:27
Guest30892yeah i know03:27
Guest30892im just trying to look for a really fast booting machine :P03:27
Raggs_Guest30892, lfs03:28
Guest30892how long would that take though03:32
Guest30892:P03:32
Raggs_have a good internet connection?03:33
Guest30892decent03:33
Guest30892i guess haha03:33
Guest30892takesa while to download stuff03:34
Guest30892sorrygotta goo03:35
Guest30892cya03:35
Raggs_you could always try to make xubuntu smaller03:35
Colonel_PanicI'm running Xubuntu 9.10 on a Dell Mini 9 and I just got a Kodak SD card at CVS06:50
Colonel_Panicfor some reason, Xubuntu doesn't recognize it06:50
Colonel_PanicI tried it in a WinXP box, and it shows up fine06:51
Colonel_PanicI even formatted it as FAT32 in case it had some funky proprietary formatting on it that Linux doesn't know06:51
Colonel_Panicmy Linux netbook still doesn't see it06:51
Colonel_PanicI have a number of other SDHC cards and they work fine06:52
Colonel_Panicany ideas?06:52
claohi, i was deinstalling some CUPS programs and endended up removing the whole xubuntu desktop, now i have no window manager at all. I am going to go ahead and install xubuntu-desktop, but was wondering what else should i install? what else comes with the fresh installation of xubuntu lucid07:36
clao?07:36
alvin-laptopWhats up everybody! whats happening in the world of xubuntu09:49
TheSheep!hi09:51
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!09:51
Sysihi alvin09:52
knomewe might actually want a different "hi" for just saying hi to people09:53
knomei's a bit overkill to use that one again and again and again09:53
knome*it's09:53
Sysii think '! scares people a bit09:54
knomemaybe09:54
TheSheepknome: I did it intentionally09:59
TheSheepknome: it should also mention #xubuntu-offtopic10:00
knomeTheSheep, probably10:00
alvin-laptopSysi: Hi dude10:01
alvin-laptopI was busy getting technical support from someone (no names)10:02
* knome coughs10:02
alvin-laptop:-D10:02
alvin-laptopcompletely anonymous10:03
alvin-laptopCan some answer this question: Do the amount of icons in you panel increase your boot up time?10:04
knomemaybe 0.000000001 milliseconds10:05
knome;)10:05
alvin-laptopvery scientific10:06
alvin-laptopSysi: Did you end upload that theme you were raving about10:06
Sysino10:07
alvin-laptopSysi: Do take knomes comments to heart...I'm sure he loves your art work as much as I do10:08
knometo be fair, i'm sure i don't10:08
Sysiactually i have one with multiple coloures buttons, and this current one with just tvo turguoisish10:08
knomebut Sysi is okay with that, i'm sure10:08
alvin-laptopknome: I sure your secretly experiment with themes (when no one is looking)10:09
knomealvin-laptop, actually, i'm not even doing it secretly: http://shimmerproject.org/2010/04/29/our-plans-update/10:09
Sysinot *secretly*, he just really don't like the gloss10:10
alvin-laptopGloss is good...embrace the gloss knome10:10
alvin-laptopI stand corrected10:11
alvin-laptop:-(10:11
knome:)10:11
knomeyou are free to like gloss, i don't ;)10:11
Sysi(these window borders are based to theme named Glossy, i think it has disppeared from xfce-look)10:13
alvin-laptopIn all honesty, I prefer a clean simple designs!10:14
alvin-laptopA minimalist approach some may say10:15
Sysiif there isn't license, is it public domain?10:17
Sysii guess i can upload this and variations i've made10:17
knomeSysi, or http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/10:18
alvin-laptopOk boys...nice chatting with you. I'll catch you round. Knome, don't have to much beer or cookies (at once). Sysis, enjoy your glossy art work.10:18
alvin-laptop:-D10:18
knome:]10:18
knomesee you alvin-laptop10:18
Sysieven if it's gpl i can upload it10:20
Sysithere's no license in(side) that tarball10:20
knomeah10:21
knomenow i see where you're going to :P10:21
knomeprobably better to search the web and it's cache10:21
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Sysiyeah, it's on DA10:25
Sysihttp://sixsixfive.deviantart.com/art/Glossy-102893750?q=boost%3Apopular+in%3Acustomization%2Fskins%2Flinuxutil%2Fxfce+max_age%3A24h&qo=6910:25
knome(c)10:26
knomeso ...10:26
slow-motionhi10:28
xubuntu339ciao10:49
xubuntu339sono nuovo10:49
xubuntu339sto ancora installando xubuntu asd10:49
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IncrStormI'm having video issues. "Movie Player" even with the stream updates is having problems.13:25
IncrStormWhat is the current hot video player for Xubuntu. Give me your opinion on browsers as well, because firefox is running WAY too heavy.13:27
SysiIncrStorm: vlc, smplayer; chromium, midori13:31
Sysiadblock is big help with ferefox if you have flash installed13:32
IncrStormWell they said chrome. Do you know they package? my "Software Center" is taking a dump. I'd rather use apt-get13:33
IncrStormWhen I say they, I mean my friends. Most of which have Linux experience, some of which have Ubuntu experience, NONE of which have Xubuntu experience.13:35
IncrStormLight and fluffy is what I need.13:35
likemindeadepiphany-browser is good too.13:36
drizzt_i've tried to use midory but it segfaulted constantly13:36
likemindeadsudo apt-get install chromium && sudo apt-get install epiphany13:36
drizzt_and epiphany uses the same engine that firefox13:36
Sysiit's still lighter13:37
Sysimidori works pretty well for me, exept occasional crashes13:37
likemindeadNo, drizzt_ epiphany is now WebKit.13:38
likemindeadNot Gecko.13:38
Sysiisn't there both engines available?13:38
likemindeadNot in the latest versions, I don't think.13:39
IncrStormActually, I would prefer advice on video13:40
IncrStormEither the codec sucks, or the player does.13:41
likemindeadVLC is always a winner.13:42
likemindead!vlc13:42
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs13:42
Sysii managed to play h264 on netbook only with VLC13:43
IncrStormKaffeine took a dump on me, something about a database. Haven't even seen Totem Xine or VLC13:49
IncrStorm!codecs ??? Forgive my ignorance, but I HAVE been looking for updated codecs. Actually haven't found one for Indeo 5 yet.13:50
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:50
Sysirestricted-extras contains those also13:51
likemindeadIncrStorm: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras14:02
likemindead!codecs14:02
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:02
QuadrescenceWhy is the "Other" section of the menu not fixed?14:21
Quadrescence(the applications menu)14:21
knomeQuadrescence, "fixed" in which way?14:23
QuadrescenceFixed in the way that icons don't randomly disappear, or that the entire Other menu doesn't disappear (typically the latter, typically after installing new software)14:24
* likemindead has no "Other" section.14:25
QuadrescenceIt's there especially when wine software is installed14:26
knomeQuadrescence, yes, because wine installs menu items in the "other" menu14:26
IncrStormcall me an idiot but I've got instructions for installing a bin package, but what about a deb package? Shouldn't that be easier?15:03
TheSheepyes, you just double-click on the deb15:04
Arpad2hello!17:44
Arpad2how can be a dvd+rw disk formated?17:44
Sysiwith brasero, propably17:45
Arpad2i cant find it there17:45
subuntui just installed 9.10 and it came up fine, but resolution was bad at 800 x 600, so i installed nvidia restricted driver (175 - recommended) but then when i restarted got black screen, not 'no signal' but 'out of range'17:45
subuntuheeeeeellllllllp! i installed 9.10 for my friend (and wiped her xp), and now i don't have any screen.  after i installed nvidia drivers and restarted monitor black, message says 'out of range'17:54
Arpad2subuntu: try at #ubuntu also:)17:55
subuntuat this point, if i could just get the nvidia drivers uninstalled and go back to 800 x 600 at least i could leave her with a working system today17:55
subuntuArpad2: i've been all over the place today, it seems like i am somehow going to have to edit an xorg.conf file, and i need help to do it17:56
Sysiget to grub menu during boot and select failsafe graphics17:57
Sysiwaht was the button again..17:57
subuntusysi, hold shift key i think?17:57
Sysiworth a try17:58
subuntusysi, i got into grub menu, but i don't see a failsafe grafix mode17:59
Sysihmm, i'm not sure with grub217:59
subuntutheres linux generic, and linux recovery, and memtest, and memtest serial17:59
Sysitry recovery18:00
subuntushould i try to edit it, or just enter to recovery mode?18:00
Sysijust enter18:00
subuntuk, got six options: rsume, clean, dpkg, grub, netroot, and root18:02
subuntu*resume18:02
Sysiclean could be18:02
subuntuclean, says try to make free space18:03
subuntuthis is a new installation, so i don't think i need to make free space do i?18:04
Sysishould not18:04
subuntuis there a root command i can use to disable the nvidia drivers?18:05
subuntuthe last two options are: drop to root shell prompt with networking, or simply drop to root shell prompt18:08
Sysiyou can make it from root shell18:10
Sysii don't remember how, google maybe does18:10
subuntuok, how :)18:10
subuntuon page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-980081.html there is a post by perfectska that has a command to disable a particular nvidia driver   sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-177-kernel-source nvidia-settings  but if i remember correctly, the driver installed was (175), not (177)18:18
Sysiswitch the number18:19
subuntusays 'couldn't find package nvidia-glx-175'18:21
Sysitry "current"18:22
subuntuummmm, where the number is substitute 'current' ?18:22
Sysi"aptitude search nvidia"18:23
Sysiit shows in left what's installed18:23
subuntuits showing A LOT .. whole screen ful of stuff, including references to nvidia 180, 185, 96, 17318:25
lightacan't u use grep to found what u want ?18:29
subuntui can do whatever you tell me what (how) to do :)18:29
subuntui'm just freaking out cause i just wiped out my friends xp and now she don't have a screen ... arrrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhh18:30
lightalet's try aptitude search nvidia | grep current ?18:32
subuntusysi, the last output from aptitude search nvidia is nvidia-settings can i run that to disable the drivers?18:32
Sysiit's graphical18:32
subuntuoh, so i won't get it18:32
Sysiand you'd need to use ubuntu's tool18:33
subuntulighta how do i make that perpendicular slash for your command?18:33
lightawith 618:34
subuntuwhat do u mean by 618:35
lightawell on my keyboard | is under 6 number but you could just copy and past18:35
subuntuits a different machine, i'm on the laptop talkin to you so can't copy/paste .. searching now for keyboard symbol18:40
lightawhat's your keyboard ? azerty or qwerty ?18:42
subuntuqwerty18:42
lighta=(18:42
subuntui have a broken perpendicular symbol, lemme try it18:43
subuntunothing happened with my broken | on that machine18:44
subuntuX(18:45
subuntudamn this thing18:45
slow-motionbye18:52
ludo182somebody speaks french ?19:08
lightasubuntu ? did you succed ?19:08
lightaludo182, I do19:08
Sysi!fr19:08
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.19:08
ludo182lighta woohooo : je viens d'installer xubuntu depuis peu sur un vieux portable, tout marchait bien, et depuis midi, je n'ai plus la barre des menus en haut, ni celle en bas ! tu peux m'aider ?19:09
lightaSysi, what the A stand for when you do a aptitude search ?19:09
lightaludo182, ce canal est juste anglais pm moi19:10
subuntulighta, sorry this box dfon19:11
subuntu'box dont have sound din't notice you comment19:11
subuntulighta, no din't succeed, i am on the target machine now, running the live disk19:12
lightaI was asking you if you succed with your issue ?19:12
lightaok19:12
lightaI was trying myself and all I can tell you is on big line you had from aptitude search19:13
lightathe one who got i on front are those who are installed19:13
lightaif this could help you19:14
subuntuno, i could not uninstall the invidia drivers19:14
JasperNL_Laptopah :D20:01
JasperNL_Laptopperfect ;)20:01
JasperNL_Laptopanyone can help me:O20:01
lightaJasperNL_Laptop, don't ask to ask just ask20:02
JasperNL_Laptophmm o_O20:02
JasperNL_Laptopi can't open a app which has to run at normal Ubuntu20:02
lightadid you gave him the right to run ?20:03
JasperNL_Laptopuhm, i did right-mousebutton and then20:03
JasperNL_Laptoprmb -> properties -> permissions20:03
JasperNL_Laptopeverything on Read & Write, Group: Admin and Program [v] Allow this file to run as program20:04
moetunesstart the app from a terminal and look for errors JasperNL_Laptop20:04
JasperNL_Laptopwhere can i find the terminal :$20:05
JasperNL_Laptopin CentOS he was easy to find o,o but i don't find him here >_>20:05
lightaright clik > terminal20:05
JasperNL_Laptop>_< that was easy20:05
lightawell it is20:06
JasperNL_Laptopnow i need to navigate to Documents -> app-map -> app?20:06
lighta give axact path but you can do it like this cd /go/on/this/path20:07
JasperNL_LaptopIt's in my Documents Directory o,o20:07
JasperNL_Laptopother idea ;) move to the map and do there open terminal XD20:08
lightathen you could probably just use cd ./Documents20:08
lightayes20:08
JasperNL_Laptophmm20:08
JasperNL_Laptopok, i'm still there, how to run it?20:08
JasperNL_Laptopjust the application name doesn't work :<20:08
lightais it a sh ?20:09
JasperNL_Laptopsh ?20:09
lightaI guess no20:09
JasperNL_Laptopit's a small-CPU server console program ;)20:09
lightadon't you have to run it on root ? try sudo name ?20:10
JasperNL_Laptoprun on root o.o20:10
JasperNL_Laptopso on properties permissions: groups: root20:10
JasperNL_Laptop?20:10
lightano just type sudo progname in terminal20:11
lightaI don't really know graphic thing20:11
JasperNL_Laptophmmm20:11
JasperNL_Laptopsudo mta-server20:11
JasperNL_Laptopsudo: mta -server: command not found20:11
subuntuhow can i install remote help assistant in the livecd version?20:13
JasperNL_LaptopI don't know o.o20:14
moetunesJasperNL_Laptop: you will have to rename the app to mta_server20:15
JasperNL_Laptopok ;)20:16
JasperNL_Laptoprenamed o,o20:16
JasperNL_Laptopbut he says:Command not found20:16
JasperNL_Laptopso i think the problem isn't the arguement (mta-server) but sudo o.o20:17
moetunesJasperNL_Laptop: no - the terminal read the command as mta with the option -server20:17
JasperNL_Laptopah;)20:18
moetunesJasperNL_Laptop: chmod +x ./mta_server20:18
JasperNL_Laptopsudo: mta_server: commandn ot found20:19
JasperNL_Laptopsame bug when i do sudo20:19
JasperNL_Laptopit doensn't need to be /sudo?20:20
moetunesmaybe no - make sure the file is in the directory the terminal is in20:20
moetunesdo   ls - l20:20
JasperNL_Laptopls -l ?20:20
JasperNL_Laptopah ;)20:21
JasperNL_Laptopi see something20:21
moetunesit will list the dir with each files permissions20:21
JasperNL_Laptopye ;) mta_server doesn't have the permissions which mta-server have ;)20:21
JasperNL_Laptopso i need to do chmod ?20:21
moetunesJasperNL_Laptop: chmod +x ./mta_server20:22
lightachmod or the graphic thing you did for other same thing20:23
JasperNL_Laptopmta_server has the permisisons now: -rwxr-xr-x20:23
moetunesrun it then20:23
moetunesI have to go - bye20:24
JasperNL_Laptopok20:24
lightadid it run ?20:24
JasperNL_Laptopno :<20:24
lightano error nothing ?20:24
JasperNL_Laptopi can't run him in the explorer20:26
lightahmm was it an archive or something like that ?20:31
JasperNL_Laptopo,o20:33
JasperNL_Laptopno, it was just a direcotry?20:33
lightaI wondering if it's a real prog or you musn't ./configue or majefile something20:33
JasperNL_Laptopo.o20:35
JasperNL_Laptopcan i send it to you?20:35
lightahmm ok20:36
JasperNL_Laptopwhere can i host him?20:36
lightaright click on my name and use send a file20:37
JasperNL_Laptopwow o,o i didn't know that that can in IRCo,o20:38
JasperNL_Laptopowh:<20:43
JasperNL_LaptopVODAFONE /O_O20:48
lightaI don't received anything JasperNL_Laptop20:50
JasperNL_Laptopi know o.o anything with  connection timed out20:51
JasperNL_Laptopmaybe now?20:51
lightacheck pm20:52
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jimisrvroxhey guys im trying to dual boot xubuntu and xp for a friend of mine and im in Gparted but the whole disk is flagged as boot and so im trying to part it in half to install xubuntu...'23:51
jimisrvroxand so its not allowing me to resize the partition23:51
Sysidid you defrag xp?23:52
Sysi\that partition23:53
jimisrvroxno I havent defraged xp23:53
jimisrvroxare you saying that I should resize the partition in XP first23:53
jimisrvroxI was thinking about that I had seen some instructions that you had to do that first or something like that23:54
Sysii say that you can't shrink "full" partition23:54
Sysior does it give some error message?23:55
jimisrvroxright its not allowing me to srink it23:55
jimisrvroxshrink*23:55
jimisrvroxwhat if I took the boot flag off of it could I resize it then?23:56
jimisrvroxalso Sysi im getting that 46 clusters are referenced multiple times and saying to run chkdsk /f on windows23:58

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