[00:07] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, I setup my network pc/lan thru dolphin/network /add network folder
[00:07] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: I can do that but the samba service doesn't start on boot.. I have to manually start it each day
[00:08] <Scunizi> ie.. sudo service smbd start
[00:09] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, when you connect to pc on the LAN smbclient/samba should start immediately..
[00:09] <BluesKaj> another pc that is
[00:09] <jcapinc> Howto: static IP address on Kubuntu?  Wicd does not work propperly.... 10.04
[00:10] <jcapinc> anyone? please?
[00:10] <BluesKaj> jcapinc, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[00:11] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: I must have more issues.. I can map a shared drive on my kubuntu box from a windows vm in vbox but I can't see/get to the windows vm from kubuntu.. access denied.. I also can't get to the shares on the kubuntu box from an Ubuntu laptop.. This all worked on 9.10 then I did an upgrade (failed) then fresh install and reconfigure.
[00:11] <jcapinc> Is KNetworkmanager such a failure that I need to hand-configure my static ip address?
[00:12] <Scunizi> jcapinc: I've no issues with wicd and a static ip
[00:12] <jcapinc> When I disconnect, wicd will not reconnect, its is a regular, nothing special ethernet setup
[00:13] <nobarking> jcapinc: use knemo
[00:13] <Scunizi> jcapinc: wired or wireless?
[00:13] <jcapinc> wired ethernet
[00:13] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, check your /etc/hosts.allow file , under portmap list your IPs like this : ALL:192.168.x.x
[00:13] <nobarking> jcapinc: sudo aptitude install knemo
[00:13] <sergio> putoo
[00:13] <BluesKaj> BBL...
[00:14] <sergio> bbl?
[00:14] <jcapinc> nobarking, should that replace knetworkmanager, or work along side it?
[00:14] <sergio> no
[00:14] <nobarking> jcapinc: it'll work along side
[00:14] <jcapinc> excellent
[00:15] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: ok.. added that.  That type of permission is also part of the smb.conf file
[00:15] <nobarking> jcapinc: to get the latest version use this PPA just for knemo: https://launchpad.net/~darcio53/+archive/darcio
[00:16] <nobarking> the newest version integrates better with plasma
[00:16] <jcapinc> there is no place to choose a static UP
[00:16] <Scunizi> jcapinc: in wicd?
[00:16] <jcapinc> no, knemo
[00:17] <jcapinc> nobarking, where and how do I set the static IP?
[00:18] <jcapinc> nobarking, this is useless, all it does is monitor things, I cannot set any IP address, why in the world did you have me install this
[00:19] <jcapinc> Scunizi, I installed and uninstalled wicd twice, and removed knetwork manager, and left it running with knetworkmanager.  It would not connect through wicd
[00:19] <jcapinc> I know the daemon was running, but it simply would not connect
[00:20] <jcapinc> Why is knetworkmanager such a failure I cannot set static IP address
[00:20] <Scunizi> knetworkmanager and wicd do not cooexist together well.. uninstall knetworkmanager and use only wicd.. then create a new connection with it using what you want for a static ip in the range of the subnet on your router..
[00:21] <jcapinc> I did uninstall knetworkamnager, restarted my computer, and configured it correctly, checked 10 times
[00:21] <nobarking> jcapinc: the best way to set static ip is to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[00:21] <nobarking> knemo is a monitoring tool
[00:21] <jcapinc> so what was knemo for?
[00:22] <Scunizi> jcapinc: knetworkmanager and the gnome version are horrible for static IP assignment.. just doesn't work.  I've hand configured and used wicd with good success.. not sure why wicd isn't working for you.
[00:22] <jcapinc> ur running 10.04?
[00:22] <Scunizi> yep
[00:23] <jcapinc> I will try that one more time
[00:23] <Scunizi> jcapinc: purge knetworkmanager first but make sure you have the wicd ready to go
[00:24] <jcapinc> be back, installed wicd, purge kcrapworkmanager, brb
[00:24] <jcapinc> restart
[00:30] <BluesKaj> he shouldn't have installed wicd , it will conflict with network NI , if he changed the default settings
[00:32] <BluesKaj> I guess jcapinc didn' t see the url tutorial on staic IP settings in NI
[00:33] <Scunizi> NI ?? what's that an abbrivation for?
[00:34] <Scunizi> Why do I have 2 pids for samba (smbd)??
[00:36] <jcapinc> back, wicd failed, simply wont connect.  Tried with static IP, did not connect, tried regular DHCP, and it came back and said it could not abtain an IP address.  switching to manual because KDE networking = fail
[00:38] <BluesKaj> jcapinc, did you see the url i posted earlier  , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[00:38] <BluesKaj> wicd will conflict
[00:40] <jcapinc> yes, that is the manual approaceh I just said I would be trying
[00:41] <BluesKaj> jcapinc, if you setup the /etc/network/interfaces file to handle a static IP setting without using network managers like NM and wicd
[00:41] <jcapinc> is there more to that sentance?
[00:42] <BluesKaj> yes, uninstall NM and wicd
[00:42] <jcapinc> what do you mean by NM
[00:42] <BluesKaj> network manager
[00:42] <jcapinc> u mean knetworkmanager?
[00:43] <BluesKaj> same thing
[00:49] <BluesKaj> jacpinc left before I could tell him to restart by sudo dhclient
[00:52] <bill___> anyone get text-to-speech to work on 10.04
[00:55] <bill___> hmmm, I guess not
[00:56] <cato37> i tripped over the power cord and unplugged (dead battery) the laptop as it was going into sleep mode. now kubuntu takes a long time to load. is there a way to fix it?
[00:57] <bill___> u can set it ip so there is no screen
[00:57] <bill___> login scren
[00:57] <bill___> screen
[00:58] <bill___> I need a new laptop
[00:59] <cato37> the other question is regarding wicd network manager and the kde network manager. both keep loading but the kde network manager is greyed out and reads unmanaged. how do i kill it, or unistall it?
[01:00] <bill___> use synaptic software manager to uninstall
[01:00] <cato37> what is the name the kde network manager?
[01:00] <Typos_King> cato37:   killall knetworkmanager
[01:00] <BluesKaj> cato37, wicd and NM conflict , use one the other but not both, usually if wicd is installed NM is removed automatically
[01:01] <bill___> KPackageKit
[01:01] <BluesKaj> synaptic is good , I prefer it
[01:01] <Typos_King> cato37:    you can always use 'qps', which is like a visual 'top' :), it list the processes as well as kill and other stufff
[01:01] <bill___> knetwork Manager works in 10.04
[01:02] <Typos_King> works also on 7.1, just crummily :P
[01:02] <bill___> yeah I used wi-cad prior to 10.04
[01:02] <bill___> works well enuff
[01:03] <Typos_King> not as good as gnome's I'm afraid
[01:03] <bill___> they are kind of the same
[01:03] <Typos_King> yeah, but gnome's NM is much more reliable and simpler UI
[01:04] <bill___> true, I guess I like the eyecandy stuf in KDE
[01:04] <cato37> i like the knetwork manager but it has bugs. it freezes in "unmanged" mode when i put the laptop to sleep, and when selecting from various wifi services doesnt allow one to cycle thru to select another one (like at the coffee shop or airport).
[01:04] <bill___> what version of kde r u using
[01:05] <cato37> 10,04 lucid lynx
[01:05] <Typos_King> .. I use kubuntu, but I use gnome's NM, the install is just 2.3mbs in files
[01:05] <bill___> hmmm mine works okay
[01:05] <cato37> 10,04 lucid lynx lts
[01:06] <bill___> what do u mean by unmanaged mode
[01:08] <bill___> ahhh okay I seee, when u put it to sleep
[01:08] <bill___> sorry, downloading some debugging tools
[01:10] <bill___> so no help on text to speech?
[01:20] <cato37> reHello
[01:21] <_CommandeR_> hi guys, anyone knows how to get wubi working on a raid partition?
[01:21] <cato37> thanks. that got rid of knetwork manager. i want to retun to usig it once the bugs are out of it.
[01:53] <Halu> o/
[01:54] <Halu> anybody there?
[01:59] <bill_> #kde-accessibility
[03:00] <alex___> hola
[05:24] <Joit> hi someone here who knows how to solve the blackscreen at kubuntu after installtion at a nvidia onboard chipset?
[06:53] <daedaluz> quassel as default irc client instead of konversation? terrible!
[08:02] <ershad>  I couldn't access the contacts in KAddressbook in Kmail, what might be the issue? Please help? Thanks
[08:18] <pinkeye224> dur
[08:18] <thechris> de
[08:18] <pinkeye224> hello
[08:18] <thechris> how goes it
[08:18] <pinkeye224> pretty good
[08:18] <pinkeye224> you running kubu ntu
[08:19] <thechris> yep
[08:19] <pinkeye224> kde 4.4.2
[08:19] <pinkeye224> or newest
[08:19] <thechris> at first I was mixed, but then i switched the video card drivers.
[08:20] <pinkeye224> not video
[08:20] <pinkeye224> kde
[08:21] <thechris> Oh, I'm running whatever KDE is on 10.4
[08:21] <pinkeye224> 4.4.2
[08:22] <pinkeye224> cant wait till opensuse 11.3 comes out
[08:23] <thechris> maybe.  My main goals are fairly basic.  64b OS, media, and ISE
[08:23] <pinkeye224> i just dont get the ubuntu hype
[08:23] <pinkeye224> this is my first time trying out kubuntu
[08:24] <thechris> Its really just the "i don't want to dick around with the OS today" that gets it for me
[08:24] <pinkeye224> im about that
[08:24] <pinkeye224> i just dont understnad why ubuntu is the best
[08:24] <pinkeye224> gnome is crap
[08:24] <thechris> i started out with gentoo, so I've had my share of messing around
[08:25] <pinkeye224> i started out with suse 9,0
[08:25] <thechris> Yeah, i don't like that they make an OS around a DE.
[08:25] <thechris> for the most part, i tactily deny a difference between ubtuntu/kubuntu.
[08:25] <pinkeye224> good
[08:27] <thechris> My main apps are still firefox, vim, and some media player.  and ISE.
[08:28] <pinkeye224> what is ise
[08:29] <thechris> its a development suite for fpgas.  really I mainly care about the CLI tools.  but it does use as much RAM as you can provide.
[08:29] <pinkeye224> not too big into dev
[08:29] <pinkeye224> except for web and java
[08:29] <pinkeye224> cms
[08:29] <thechris> FPGAs are nearly as low-level as you can get.  basically user defined hardware.
[08:30] <pinkeye224> no me gusta low level languages
[08:30] <pinkeye224> OO ftw
[08:31] <thechris> indeed, it is a different world.
[09:08] <jeremy> Anyone know if I can reinstall kubuntu with some file backup?
[09:08] <Guest64214> As in, can I save my firefox settings (bookmarks mainly) and music/documents/pictures and reload the rest of my 10.04 install?
[09:12] <Atritas> Guest64214: If your home directory is on its own partition, just don't touch it. If it is, just do a backup of the entire directory.
[09:14] <Guest64214> atritas, I have an external drive for backing things up, i was just wondering if it'd be possible to go around it..
[09:16] <Atritas> Guest64214: Only if you use the advanced installation method and tell it that it should not touch the existing partitions and data on it (overwrite).
[09:16] <Guest64214> atritas, how can i set up a partition for my home directory?  And then how would I integrate it into the clean install?
[09:17] <Atritas> Guest64214: So if you have a seperate home partition its not a problem at all, if you don't an you reinstall you will have unneccessary data left over from the previous installation, which *could* mess with the new installation or lead to "interesting" effects.
[09:19] <Atritas> Guest64214: During a fresh install you can either let the installation routine setup harddisk partitions for you (which result in one big root partition if i remember correctly) or you do it manually. Then you can specify partitions an their desired mountpoints. Once you have your home directory in its own partition you won't have trouble with upgrades or new installations anymore (up to a point that is :-) ).
[09:21] <Guest64214> alright, wish me luck haha
[09:44] <tma_> hello!
[09:48] <arush_> hello
[09:48] <arush_> how i insatll game on kubuntu 10.04
[09:49] <tma_> Tell my how to configure dug through a proxy. I'm using kde 4.4.4. I also have the opportunity to register http \ https proxy and socks proxy. Where exactly is prescribed socks settings KDE?
[09:50] <tma_> I dont have SOCKS On tab Proxy Servers.
[09:50] <tma_> Tell my how to configure KOPETE ;) through a proxy.
[09:51] <Atritas> tma_: Kopete doesn't support proxying by itself.
[09:53] <tma_> Atritas:  oh.... on 3.5 is work :(
[09:54] <Atritas> tma_: afaik Kopete did never support proxying.
[09:54] <tma_> Atritas:  thanks :(
[09:54] <Atritas> tma_: The only chance you have (had) is defining a global proxy for all KDE relevant stuff in the system settings.
[09:54] <Atritas> tma_: mabye Kopete honors them, but frankly i don't know for sure.
[09:55] <tma_> Into global proxy missing tab for socks proxyng
[09:55] <tma_> Atritas: Into global proxy missing tab for socks proxyng
[09:55] <Atritas> tma_: The downside ofc is that just about everything started within KDE will try to use that defined proxies.
[09:55] <starslights> hello, intressting, kopete support proxy though socks, that's sure but the problem i have it's that it leak DNS , that's the only one problem so far :/
[09:57] <Atritas> tma_: well, then you're out of luck here... Pidgin supports all of them out-of-the-box, if you don't mind switching.
[09:57] <Atritas> starslights: sorry, but i can't find any socks related settings within Kopete. Do you socksify it via dante maybe?
[09:57] <starslights> yeah, right pidgin don't leak DNS but the problem are that it freeze a lot :(
[09:58] <Atritas> starslights: never froze for me in the past 5 years.
[09:58] <tma_> Atritas: Yes, I know. But I wanted to use KDE programs :)
[09:58] <starslights> ok, go in your preference, account, after menu "connection" do "activate server mandataire"
[09:58] <starslights> choose http or socks5 ;)
[09:58] <starslights> that's all :P
[09:59] <starslights> maybe i need report that DNS resolving bug while kopete are really a great client at many point
[10:00] <starslights> Atritas:  i use Tor and have lot of connections, maybe that's the reason
[10:00] <starslights> i must say that i don't have tried again from a couple months ...
[10:01] <Atritas> starslights: seems i'm blind. still can't find proxy settings here besides for file transfers which are no "real" proxy connections.
[10:02] <starslights> it's named by me in French "serveur mandataire" in English it must not a big difference and their not many option ..
[10:03] <starslights> Atritas:  i am sure that all connections get into my proxy , so i don't really get your point ...
[10:03] <tma_> starslights:  Oh :),
[10:06] <Atritas> starslights: no point at all. just curious because i was convinced that kopete doesn't have any proxy options.
[10:07] <tma_> Atritas: starslights: Thanks!!!
[10:07] <Atritas> tma_: Thanks have to go to starlights only :-)
[10:07] <starslights> i think that it was the cas on previous release, that's was i used pidgin , now i hope that there will fix the DNS resolving and it will perfect :D
[10:07] <starslights> you are welcome _:D
[10:07] <tma_>  bb :)
[10:08] <Atritas> starslights: what's your version of kopete now?
[10:08] <starslights> 1.0.0
[10:09] <starslights> but i can be wrong, i am on linux only from 1 and half year now :D
[10:09] <Atritas> starslights: AH, NOW i found them. seems Kopete supports proxying almost everywhere, just not where i looked (ICQ) :-)
[10:10] <starslights> :)
[10:10] <Atritas> starslights: sad... almost thought i could finally switch. well...
[10:13] <starslights> great, be happy that you can use it like you want :P
[11:31] <pidus> I am using Kubuntu 10.04. After booting, often I am unable to open new applications with the error message 'Maximum number of clients reached'. Closing 1 more applications at times helps to open another. But that is it.
[11:31] <pidus> Moreover, while I am not facing this problem, and xlsclients works it shows around 30 instances of plasma-desktop? Isn't it too high a number?
[11:51] <pidus> Figured out the problem, it was with x11vnc...but then I need x11vnc, let's see hot ot get it working in the right way
[12:01] <dcorbin_work> I'm unable to get the java plugin to be recognized by Firefox.  I have a symbolic link in my .Mozilla/plugins folder to the plugin.
[12:13] <slow-motion> hi
[12:14] <skramer_> whenever KGet finishes a download, I get a rather ugly pop-up (no Plasma notification)
[12:14] <skramer_> is there a chance to disable this notification or to see a Plasma notification instead?
[12:18] <Freyr> hi there !
[12:18] <Freyr> is there a utility for exporting pdf files to open office spreadsheet files ?
[13:04] <borden> hi , is it possible to ignore dependencies like "kpresenter" and "kspread" when I issue the command "apt-get install krita" ?
[13:08] <Kottizen> I have a laptop with a 3G-modem and a wired cable in. The wired cable goes to a router which does not have internet. If I try to visit a web page using my laptop it says "network unreachable". If I pull out my wired cable, it works fine. How do I set the mobile broadband to be default?
[13:25] <goodtime> ubuntu-beginners
[13:25] <goodtime> lol
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:52] <borden> even though some of you may believe that this is a "beginners' issue" please have a closer look at the dependencies of this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/krita whose version is "2.1.2" and then enable lucid-backport as told on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2.2
[13:52] <borden> The thing is... "krita 2.2" forces us to install packages like "kpresenter" and "kspread" (which wasn't the case with the "krita 2.1.2") should I open a bug report on launchpad for the latest krita package to be repackaged with better dependency policies ?
[13:54] <RePtiZeta119> somebody call back, please
[13:54] <RePtiZeta119> hi 4 everybody
[13:57] <RePtiZeta119> some many chaters, but nothing serious is going on
[13:57] <RePtiZeta119> *so many chaters, but nothing serious is going on
[13:59] <Pici> RePtiZeta119: This is a support channel, do you have a support question?  If not, feel free to chat in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:00] <Pici> borden: It would be best to log a bug if you feel that those should not be dependencies.
[14:01] <geof270> Hello. Anyone recommend a unbuntu install w kubuntu -destop load over it, instead of a straight kubuntu install first?
[14:01] <RePtiZeta119> aciu kad rupinates manimi. man siaip smalsu
[14:02] <RePtiZeta119> Thank you take care of me. curious to me anyway
[14:02] <borden> Pici: thanks for your respond !
[14:03] <RePtiZeta119> it seems that this chat can be for me useful
[14:03] <RePtiZeta119> but not now
[14:04] <RePtiZeta119> Would somebody know where to find useful tools for system recovery
[14:04] <geof270> 'system recoverery CD'
[14:04] <RePtiZeta119> is some situations recovery mode is not helpful
[14:04] <RePtiZeta119> :-D
[14:05] <geof270> has grub, but not grub2, gparted, mc, etc
[14:07] <RePtiZeta119> but if i want to mount partition, and with 'mount' not works
[14:08] <geof270> read 'man mount'
[14:08] <RePtiZeta119> i know it
[14:09] <RePtiZeta119> but still does not work
[14:09] <RePtiZeta119> maybe partition table is damaged or HDD have some bad sectors
[14:10] <RePtiZeta119> ?
[14:11] <geof270> use fschk on umounted volume
[14:12] <RePtiZeta119> thank you! i will try it
[14:13] <geof270> make sure volume is unmounted
[14:15] <RePtiZeta119> i'm understand
[14:16] <RePtiZeta119> bye
[14:22] <geof270> Anyone have problems w ureadahead on lucid?
[14:24] <antonella_bella> Hi everybody! Does anybody know how to make the Win Key open Kickoff?
[14:25] <antonella_bella> I've been reading some articles but nothing...
[14:35] <trudelI> hi
[14:39] <trudelI> !list
[14:42] <trudelI> hi, anyone know how i can install audacious midi timidity plugin for xmms and mplayer?
[14:43] <trudelI> hi, anyone knows how i can install audacious midi 'timidity' plugin for xmms and mplayer?
[14:51] <trudelI> hi, anyone knows how i can install audacious midi 'timidity' plugin for xmms and mplayer?
[14:59] <donatello> ciao
[14:59] <trudelI> ciao
[14:59] <donatello> !list
[14:59] <trudelI> do you speak english?
[14:59] <donatello> a bit----
[15:00] <trudelI> so... do you know how i can install audacious midi 'timidity' plugin for xmms and mplayer?
[15:01] <donatello> i dont know, this is my first time in this place
[15:01] <trudelI> do you are kubuntu user?
[15:02] <donatello> yes, but only 10 hours
[15:03] <trudelI> oh, rookie
[15:03] <trudelI> well, kubuntu is good
[15:05] <trudelI> are you learn about kubuntu usage?
[15:14] <donatello> i have a friend who me do like a teacher
[15:16] <trudelI> nice
[15:16] <trudelI> it's easy to learn
[15:17] <trudelI> easy to install programs
[15:18] <trudelI> how part of italy you are?
[15:18] <donatello> i am in sardinia (sardegna)
[15:19] <BluesKaj> !pt
[15:19] <BluesKaj> !it
[15:19] <slow-motion> bye
[15:20] <BluesKaj> just to let you guys know there are chatrooms in your native language, trudelI , donatello
[15:20] <donatello> ok grazie
[15:23] <trudelI> hi Blueskaj, i'm here again
[15:24] <BluesKaj> trudelI, ok
[15:24] <trudelI> i come here in peace
[15:25] <trudelI> well, do you know if i can use audacious midi plugin in xmms and mplayer?
[15:25] <trudelI> if yes, how?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> sorry , I don't know much about midi stuff
[15:26] <trudelI> alright, i will trying
[15:27] <trudelI> thanks for your attentions
[15:31] <trudelI> !br
[16:31] <trudeII> #ubuntu-br
[16:45] <cato37> how do i change my computer's name in lucid?
[17:00] <rev1ved> test
[17:02] <soee> passed
[17:08] <Pavel_10> my trash is empty, but when I try to delete something (from an external drive) I get the error "trash is full"
[17:39] <cato37> how do i change the name of my computer?
[17:41] <kanhiya1> hello everybody
[17:42] <kanhiya1> is there any program like APTonCD in KUBUNTU
[17:44] <kanhiya1> cato37: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/
[17:44] <cato37> k.
[17:52] <ubuntu> Hi !
[17:52] <ubuntu> I need a partition manager for Kubuntu 10.04, where I can find it ?
[17:52] <ubuntu> I must install one ?
[17:52] <kanhiya1> ubuntu
[17:53] <sillysyl> kanhiya1 ?
[17:53] <kanhiya1> sillysyl: yes!8-)
[17:54] <sillysyl> which partition manager I should use under KDE ?
[17:56] <sillysyl> I'm using the Live CD but there's nothing to manage partitions on it
[17:57] <Andrew9> sillysyl: kubuntu is tnot the best choice for a livecd to use
[17:57] <sillysyl> Andrew9 : I just wnat to install it but I need to resize/create partitions first, I can't do it with the CD ?
[17:58] <Andrew9> sillysyl: you can install gparted if you have internet connection
[17:58] <sillysyl> Andrew9 : yes I do, I'm using the live CD currently ;) But gparted will install a lot of GTK libraries
[17:59] <sillysyl> there's no more qtparted as it was before ?
[18:00] <Andrew9> sillysyl: if its levecd you shouldn't be concerned about a lot of gtk libraries
[18:00] <Andrew9> livecd*
[18:02] <sillysyl> Andrew9 : yes you're right, but also I like to have a built-in partition manager - it's always useful
[18:02] <sillysyl> Andrew9 : whatever, "partitionmanager" seems to be what I'm seeking, I'm installing it
[18:03] <sillysyl> apt-cache show partition manager : [...] Partition Manager is based on libparted (like gparted) and makes use of the
[18:03] <sillysyl>  KDE libraries for its user interface. [...]
[18:04] <Andrew9> sillysyl: good to know, thanks!
[18:05] <sillysyl> Andrew9 : thanks to you ;) So, I just installed it, and I'm using it right now, it's exactly what I was looking for ;)
[18:16] <webmaster61> Hello. Anybody there?
[18:25] <Mehrab> hi, How can I remove all settings related to pppoe connection I made in konsole, to be able to connect through KNetwork Manager again?
[18:26] <Mehrab> OR is there anyway to get KNM work again?
[18:45] <zus> is kubuntu having problems updating, gpg, and security?
[18:53] <tasslehoff> Dual-booting Win7 and Kubuntu, would the following partitions make sense? 1. W7 - NTFS 2. / - ext4, /home - ext4, /data - ext3, the latter ext3, because then I can mount it as ext2 from W7 and share media between the operating systems.
[18:54] <zus> tasslehoff,  great nic!
[18:55] <tasslehoff> zus: thanks :)
[18:55] <zus> tasslehoff,  the kender right?
[18:56] <tasslehoff> zus: yep.
[18:59] <zus> tasslehoff,  i dont knpow about the patitions,  but i only have one os installed..
[19:01] <tasslehoff> zus: since W7 comes with the pc I'm buying, I figure I'll let it have a small corner of my harddrive just in case I want to play with it sometime :)
[19:02] <zus> tasslehoff,  (for games)
[19:02] <zus> but i got a dropbox account  so filesharing is easy
[19:03] <zus> for somethings
[19:05] <tasslehoff> zus: Yeah. The main share-object for me would be photos, I suspect. last time I checked, Adobes sw did a better job postprocessing my raw-images than Digikam did. Also I'm a bit curious, so I sometimes like to take a look at what's happening on the dark side ;)
[19:05] <tasslehoff> anyway, gotta go.
[19:06] <zus> is anyone having problems updating and upgradeing  in kubuntu with security and gpg?
[19:13] <cato37> i am satisfied with what gnu-linux-kubuntu lucid has to offer--a bit buggy but easily solved and not nearly as bad as the nightmare vista was to install and operate (a crash per month). one last question before i permanently take the plunge. there is no way getting around needing to use ms onenote for collabrative brainstorming with my workgroup. i dont want to dual boot vista with linux 'cause vista crashes like clockwork. should run wine
[19:13] <cato37>  or is there a virtual machine that might do the trick for just running onenote; or is there an open source alternative to onenote?
[19:17] <zus> cato37,   what is one note?
[19:18] <zus> something like a knotes or even tomboy? will this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93742
[19:22] <zus> is anyone having problems updating and upgradeing  in kubuntu with security and gpg? or ppa failing?
[19:24] <cato37> zus: Microsoft Office OneNote is a software package for free-form information gathering and multi-user collaboration. While OneNote is most commonly used on laptops or desktop PCs, it has additional features for use on pen-enabled Tablet PCs, in environments where pen, audio or video notes are more appropriate than an intensive use of keyboards. The current version is Microsoft Office OneNote 2010. In late 2009, Microsoft released the beta
[19:24] <cato37>  version of Microsoft OneNote 2010.
[19:25] <zus> did you see the link i put up top? might that help?
[19:26] <cato37> i got that off of wikipedia. it allows multi-user brainstorming, and is set up in a tabbed environment that allows all sorts of application types to be inserted (from word processor data to spreadsheets, and pictures and the arranged or rearanged at fingerpoint.
[19:26] <cato37> i misssed the link. sorry.
[19:27] <zus> cato37, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93742
[19:27] <cato37> thanks i will give tomboy a try
[19:28] <zus> for kubuntu there is also knotes and sticky notes but i did like tomboy from when i used gnome
[19:28] <fkefer> hi all!
[19:29] <fkefer> i just recently tried to put kubuntu on my work PC, only had a Ubuntu CD though, so what i did was install ubuntu and post-installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[19:30] <fkefer> the machine is a Acer TM6592, graphics is a Radeon HD 2400XT
[19:30] <fkefer> problem is: as soon as i first start KDE, the graphics turn _really_ slow
[19:30] <fkefer> and i mean _really_ slow, i can not possibly work that way
[19:30] <fkefer> AND: even when i log back into gnome again, the graphics settings are broken
[19:30] <fkefer> same slowness
[19:31] <fkefer> i can't even remember how i could get rid of this, gnome is OK now
[19:31] <cato37> everyone in the group uses ms because they feel they have to, for things like illustrator, and onenote, but between gimp, inkscape, and blender (and a circuit design prog that escapes me), all the bases are covered and they are more than what we need.
[19:32] <cato37> bbiab
[19:32] <fkefer> cato37: i don't need the other apps, i'm familiar with the linux ones, i grew up with them; might be different for an marketing agency where people's always been working on photoshop (which is different than gimp...) and illustrator
[19:33] <cato37> the only thing we really would need training on is how to avoid, or translate .ai files.
[19:33] <cato37> bbiab
[19:34] <Guest59660> hey
[19:54] <sgrover> Any idea why vegastrike is not in my repositories, but vegastrike-music and vegastrike-data are?  (kubuntu 10.04)
[20:02] <Shang-Tsung> Hi
[20:02] <Shang-Tsung> I've got a huge pb
[20:08] <Shang-Tsung> Hi
[20:10] <fkefer> Shang-Tsung: you mentioned a problem?
[20:14] <blekos> hello, I am using ubuntux64 if I aptitude install kubuntu-desktop will I get the 64version autmatically
[20:14] <blekos> ?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:15] <blekos> BlueskaJ was that for me?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> your sources.list is automatically setup to whatever platform you have installed , blekos
[20:16] <blekos> thnx
[20:16] <BluesKaj> be it 32 or 64 bit
[20:16] <blekos> I'll give Kubuntu a try then :)
[20:17] <BluesKaj> blekos, how much memory do you have ?
[20:17] <blekos> 4GB
[20:17] <blekos> y?
[20:17] <blekos> i use 64 for that reason
[20:18] <blekos> hopefully kubuntu will consume the same amount of energy so my laptop can last for a bit
[20:18] <BluesKaj> blekos, ok you may benefit from 64 bit , anything under 4G doesn't really get any faster with 64 vs 32
[20:19] <blekos> got an i5 and using virtualbox as well. So I've chosen ext4 as well
[20:19] <blekos> whatever I get is welcomed :)
[20:20] <blekos> the only thing I always hated is the menu gets messed up
[20:22] <BluesKaj> blekos, so you are going to run windows on VB
[20:22] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:23] <blekos> yep, I'm running w7 and server 2003
[20:23] <blekos> (not at the same time)
[20:23] <blekos> the only thing I am missing is iTunes (just to sync with my iPhone...)
[20:24] <blekos> :p
[20:24] <BluesKaj> should be ok , I ran vista in VB for a while til i bought W7 , now I'm dual booting
[20:27] <blekos> I'm dual booting as well, but just keeping it in case of emergency and sync
[20:28] <blekos> do u know if I can have top bar in KDE like in gnome
[20:28] <blekos> it is quite hand to have shortcuts and infos up there
[20:28] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:28] <blekos> a nice
[20:29] <BluesKaj> <------old windows guy ...i prefer mine at the bottom..
[20:30] <DarthFrog> <----- old OS/2 guy  ...So do I. :-)
[20:49] <ubuntu> heya, im following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but I dont know where to install GRUB when it comes into this part "Replace /dev/sda with the location you want to install GRUB on."
[20:52] <mkquist_> ubuntu: put it on your first boot drive, usually the first drive if windows is booting from it...
[20:52] <DarthFrog> ubuntu:  What do you get from "fdisk -l"?  Put the results in pastebin.
[20:52] <DarthFrog> !pastebin | ubuntu
[20:53] <zePh7r> after some recent update, somehow my mic (capture device) stoped working. know anything about this?
[20:53] <zePh7r> it was working out of the box when I installed kubuntu 10.04
[20:54] <ubuntu> DarthFrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454097/
[20:54] <DarthFrog> ubuntu: /dev/sda
[20:55] <ubuntu> ok :) lets reboot
[21:17] <zePh7r> how can one browse the update history in kubuntu? to know what package update messed up my capture config
[21:27] <astro_> hello channel
[21:28] <astro_> can anyone see what im typing
[21:29] <people31> yessss
[21:30] <astro_> ok thx
[21:30] <astro_> i always have trouble getting konversation to work
[21:36] <Space_Man> astro_: I don't have that problem
[21:36] <Space_Man> Konversation just works :)
[21:40] <astro__> Space_Man: it may have just been my distro
[21:41] <astro__> Space_Man:  this one seems to be working just fine
[21:43] <Space_Man> maybe the chan's you're trying to chat on are moderated or need some kind of authentication?
[21:44] <astro__> could be
[21:57] <jsbracher> Help - newbie user installing 10.04 desktop: I want to dual-boot win7/kubuntu.  I had an unused previous Kubuntu set up to dual boot, but didn't use it.  Can I delete the partitions it used, and tell the installer to use that free space?  I don't know what I need to do with swap files, ext4 vs. ext3...
[22:11] <DarthFrog> jsbracher: yes, you can.  Don't worry about swap or file system type.  The installer will look after that for you.
[22:14] <jsbracher> DarthFrog: thanks!
[23:25] <amichair> a bit off topic, but anyone know how to delete a trailing newline in the last line of a file with vi?
[23:31] <mbazdell> Hi all.. I have a rather interesting issue. I just install 10.04 x86 Alternate. Everything worked great. Then I turned off my computer, turned it back on, and I can't get eth* to be created. Under /sys/devices/* I can see eth0 coming up for slot 02:0c, lspci|grep 02:0c shows me my NIC (8254OEM Intel Pro 1000) and lsmod shows e1000 is loaded. Also dmesg|grep e1000 shows me it finds the card, assigns it eth0 and still nothing in /de
[23:31] <tsimpson> amichair: I don't know if there's a specific way to do that, but you can use 'dd' in command mode while on the line to remove it
[23:31] <mbazdell> ideas?
[23:32] <amichair> tsimpson: that would delete the line, I'm trying to delete the newline char (0x0a) at the end, and just can't find a way to do it...
[23:32] <mbazdell> I'm thinking it has soething to do with udev but I'm not sure. I tried removing the udev rule for net that is automatically generated and then rebooting, yet still nothing
[23:33] <tsimpson> amichair: if there is a newline char, it would start a new line
[23:33] <mbazdell> oh an /dev/.udev/db/ has net:eth0
[23:33] <tsimpson> mbazdell: why do you need it in /sys/devices?
[23:34] <mbazdell> tsimpson: I don't. I just checked there to make sure the system sees it properly
[23:34] <tsimpson> mbazdell: see if there is a link in /sys/class/net
[23:34] <mbazdell> tsimpson: there is
[23:34] <tsimpson> should link to some PCI resource
[23:34] <tsimpson> then it's there :)
[23:34] <amichair> tsimpson: I see the newline in okteta, so it's definitely there (and causing me trouble). vi doesn't let me go to the line below because there's nothing there (or... dunno why)
[23:35] <mbazdell> my thinking is that udev just isn't making the device in /dev for some reason, and not giving any error or log about it
[23:36] <tsimpson> mbazdell: it shouldn't make it in /dev
[23:36] <tsimpson> /dev is not the right place for a network interface
[23:36] <mbazdell> tsimpson: ahh.. been a while since I've used Linux
[23:36] <tsimpson> except maybe virtual devices
[23:36] <mbazdell> used to be /dev/eth0
[23:37] <mbazdell> that means I've been barking up the wrong tree then... hmm
[23:37] <tsimpson> well I have no network devices listed in /dev, and my network is working fine
[23:38] <tsimpson> and I haven't see anything in /dev about networking for years
[23:38] <mbazdell> okay.. hmmm
[23:38] <mbazdell> if I do `sudo dhclient eth0' it works
[23:39] <mbazdell> but I can't do ifup even though it's specified under /etc/networking/interfaces
[23:39] <tsimpson> what error do you get?
[23:39] <tsimpson> any why not use network manager?
[23:40] <mbazdell> ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[23:40] <mbazdell> network manager doesn't list any network interfaces
[23:40] <tsimpson> if it says that it means it's not set to configure eth0
[23:40] <tsimpson> so something in /etc/network/interfaces is wrong
[23:41] <amichair> tsimpson: to test - open a new file in vi. press 'i', 'a', <enter>, <esc>, 'dd'. now the file consists of 'a' and 0x0a... how would you erase the 0x0a?
[23:41] <mbazdell> oh knetworkmanager doesn't load.. not sure why
[23:41] <mbazdell> I'm using the stable repositories
[23:42] <tsimpson> amichair: I don't see that, when I press 'dd', I only have one line with 'a'
[23:42] <amichair> tsimpson: ':wq' then hexdump the file... do u see it?
[23:43] <amichair> or ':set list', and the $ is there
[23:44] <tsimpson> I just see "a$"
[23:44] <amichair> the $ is a newline character :-)
[23:44] <amichair> I'm trying to get to a a-byte file containing only 'a'
[23:44] <tsimpson> yeah, I noticed
[23:44] <amichair> s/a-byte/1-byte/
[23:45] <amichair> btw is there a cli equivalent of okteta? an editable hexdump?
[23:47] <tsimpson> amichair: odd, vi must automatically append a new-line. 'echo -n a > foo' gives a file with only 'a', but vi still shows 'a$'
[23:47] <tsimpson> same with nano
[23:52] <mbazdell> tsimpson: thanks for the pointers.. I was able to figure out where the problem was
[23:52] <mbazdell> tsimpson: turns out knetworkmanager had a stale pid file.. deleting that bad boy and rebooting fixed it
[23:53] <mbazdell> which is why knetworkmanager kept failing to start and get everything working
[23:54] <mbazdell> thanksa lot!
[23:54] <amichair> tsimpson: just found a (bizarre) solution: use the commands ':set binary' ':set noeol' and then write the file, and the final newline is gone. of course, next time the file is edited, the newline returns. hrm.