| arand | peterkls: what kind of problem? does older versions work? | 00:49 |
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| peterkls | has anyone been able to sart the live cd up? having trouble with a1 on my ideapad s10-3t. | 00:50 |
| peterkls | yeah i get 10.04 to startup fine... | 00:51 |
| arand | Try a daily instead. | 00:51 |
| arand | !daily | 00:51 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 00:51 |
| arand | That might make a difference, since alpha is quite "old" by now... | 00:51 |
| peterkls | i tried that too. i probably should copy the error down >_> | 00:52 |
| arand | And report a bug. | 00:52 |
| peterkls | yeah | 00:52 |
| peterkls | i need to make a launchpad account yeah? | 00:53 |
| arand | Testing acpi=off and other kernel options might be worth a try, and when reporting, note that on the report as well. | 00:54 |
| peterkls | think unetbootin has something to do with the live cd not working? | 00:54 |
| arand | Yea, will need a LP account. | 00:55 |
| arand | Hmm, Unless the image was somehow corrupt in the writing to USB, I don't think it should.. | 00:55 |
| arand | Doesn't ubuntu have another tool that can be used to get the USB image written, in windows? Or was that just a blueprint... | 00:56 |
| peterkls | yeah im looking at that now | 00:58 |
| peterkls | brb lol | 00:58 |
| jordanwb | I'm looking for a new laptop. How are the Intel GMA chips for driver support? | 01:24 |
| jordanwb | Hello? | 01:29 |
| * holstein has an asus EEE with intel chips | 01:29 | |
| holstein | works great | 01:29 |
| holstein | the least head-ache in the house right now | 01:29 |
| jordanwb | So is it safe to say I don't have to worry about driver support. | 01:30 |
| holstein | jordanwb: i wouldnt say that | 01:31 |
| peterkls | going to get the error code brb all | 01:31 |
| holstein | i would still google and poke around and ask | 01:31 |
| jordanwb | I suspect they'd have better support than ATI or nvidia | 01:31 |
| holstein | BUT i think i will get intel chips for my next purchase | 01:31 |
| * holstein is not a gamer | 01:31 | |
| arand | Well, the GMA954/955 Seems to have had problems throughout lucid | 01:32 |
| holstein | ive heard good thins about nvida though | 01:32 |
| * holstein looks | 01:32 | |
| jordanwb | I know that Nouveau works with my nvidia GT220. | 01:32 |
| holstein | Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04) | 01:32 |
| holstein | thats what i got that ive had no problems with | 01:33 |
| jordanwb | Cool. I'm looking for a laptop where I don't have to worry about binary drivers. | 01:33 |
| holstein | arent we all :) | 01:33 |
| holstein | i got a couple of out of the box ATI cards too | 01:34 |
| holstein | id have to fire them up to check | 01:34 |
| holstein | nothing new | 01:34 |
| jordanwb | I know I don't have to worry about Atheros and Intel makes good wifi chips. Not sure about RealTek. | 01:34 |
| holstein | i just dont like real-tek | 01:34 |
| holstein | quality wise | 01:34 |
| holstein | but i got a couple of those that are supported | 01:35 |
| jordanwb | According to the Ubuntu Wiki, the Radeon HD 4200 works with the OSS Radeon driver which would work. | 01:36 |
| Daekdroom | jordanwb, I don't think it has 3D accel | 01:37 |
| jordanwb | I don't mind. My current laptop has a Radeon x1200 which uses the radeon driver and it can do compiz stuff just fine (transparency mainly). | 01:38 |
| Daekdroom | Well, for X1200 it does. | 01:39 |
| jordanwb | According to the wiki, Intel's G965 OSS driver does 3D | 01:40 |
| holstein | my EEE does compiz out of the box | 01:41 |
| jordanwb | Cool. So it seems that the Intel GMA is the least bad | 01:42 |
| Daekdroom | GMA500, on the other hand.. | 01:42 |
| jordanwb | I'll be near a Best Buy so I'll take a dialy build of meerkat and see what happens. | 01:44 |
| jordanwb | Best buy tommorow* | 01:44 |
| holstein | thats the best way | 01:45 |
| bjsnider | do they let people walk in off the streets and load strange operating systems on their display systems? | 01:45 |
| jordanwb | Windows ME would be strange to the Geek Squad | 01:46 |
| holstein | sure | 01:46 |
| holstein | just ask :) | 01:46 |
| holstein | they like to sell things | 01:47 |
| bjsnider | i see | 01:47 |
| bjsnider | what if the livecd ruined the hardware? | 01:48 |
| holstein | at the store? | 01:48 |
| bjsnider | affirmative | 01:48 |
| holstein | that would be unlikely | 01:48 |
| holstein | and, its not anybody's hardware | 01:48 |
| jordanwb | there was a case of the e1000 driver hosing the network chip but that was a while ago. | 01:48 |
| holstein | i would assume the geek-squad would re-do the OS | 01:48 |
| bjsnider | remember when the kernel destroyed the firmware on some lan chips awhile back? | 01:49 |
| holstein | OR just send it back | 01:49 |
| holstein | after hardy? | 01:49 |
| Daekdroom | r600g mesa driver had a function that got you to do a cold start boot to fix a crash o.o | 01:49 |
| Daekdroom | How come there aren't any linux malwares.. | 01:50 |
| holstein | there will be i bet | 01:50 |
| jordanwb | there was one in a gnome screensave a while back | 01:50 |
| maco | Daekdroom: there are | 01:50 |
| bjsnider | linux is too small a target | 01:50 |
| bjsnider | currently | 01:50 |
| holstein | with all the adroid phones | 01:50 |
| holstein | android* | 01:50 |
| maco | there are no VIRUSES *in the wild* able to infect a current up-to-date system | 01:50 |
| maco | there have been ~30 in the wild at various times | 01:50 |
| maco | and there's plenty badness out there that *isnt* a virus | 01:51 |
| Daekdroom | Hell, I once saw a installing routine script that started with a rm -rf /bin/ | 01:51 |
| maco | Daekdroom: yikes! | 01:51 |
| Daekdroom | and yes, somebody fell for it, and no, thankfully it wasn't me :P | 01:51 |
| maco | jordanwb: yep yep i remember that trojan | 01:51 |
| Daekdroom | I think it was a LXDE installer or something | 01:52 |
| * maco points folks to the presentation on linux-security-for-normal people she gave 10 days ago --> http://www.slideshare.net/macoafi/security-4484394 | 01:52 | |
| Daekdroom | Anyway, I gotta go. | 01:52 |
| jordanwb | okay. Thanks guys | 01:52 |
| holstein | maco: cool :) | 01:53 |
| peterkls | ok the error im encountering is the following: "Fatal: Error inserting vesafb (/lib/modules/2.6.35-2-generic/kernel/drivers/video/vesafb.ko): No such device ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell:". I also get a error similar to this that i cant copy because it just flashes then goes away. i do not know if this is the same error or not but i think so. | 02:21 |
| arand | peterkls: To be honest I don't know about the error, but it's at least material for a bug report, note down what you've tested, etc. | 02:27 |
| peterkls | yeap will do. Do i need ubuntu to file the bug? | 02:27 |
| peterkls | im going to ask same question in ubuntu to see if anyone else might have this problem | 02:31 |
| Sagaci | when will packages.ubuntu.com allow maverick packages to be searched, on the release date? | 02:33 |
| arand | Sagaci: It should be up, I think it might be a problem with the site code, which hasn't been fixed yet, for some reason.. | 02:39 |
| Sagaci | arand: ah ok, that's for the response | 02:40 |
| arand | peterkls: No, You can report it directly, but if you at some point are able to boot the kernel it would of course be best to report it using "ubuntu-bug linux" to catch all relevant data regarding that specific kernel and hardware... | 02:41 |
| peterkls | roger that mate | 02:49 |
| yofel | peterkls: afaik that error usually means that the device is either not there, or already used by another module, are you sure there isn't another framebuffer module already loaded? | 03:10 |
| yofel | afaik vga16fb is loaded by default | 03:10 |
| peterkls | i read about using uvesafb instead of vesafb on bootup. how would i go about doing that? | 03:11 |
| yofel | well, vesafb should never be used as it's blacklisted, as for uvesafb, not sure | 03:16 |
| yofel | vga16fb works fine here | 03:16 |
| yofel | maybe blacklist vga16fb and add uvesafb to /etc/intramfs-tools/modules | 03:17 |
| peterkls | well im trying to just get into the live install and i had an error with vesafb and that uvesafb should be used | 03:18 |
| yofel | erm, vesafb is blacklisted, so a clean live disk will *never* use it | 03:19 |
| yofel | it shouldn't even attempt to use it | 03:19 |
| yofel | just curious, what are you trying to do? | 03:19 |
| peterkls | install 10.10 any way possible on my ideapad s10-3t since it supports most of the features of this netbook | 03:20 |
| yofel | ah | 03:21 |
| peterkls | im following ubuntu forums and someone got 10.10 on it, but he hasnt responded yet about it | 03:24 |
| DanaG | peterkls: add uvesafb to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, install v86d, and set grub to something like: video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768 | 03:25 |
| peterkls | ok will try | 03:28 |
| peterkls | i just realized there is alternate maverick installs i can try | 03:45 |
| DanaG | "in maverick we plan to have an upstart job that automatically spawns a getty if a console= argument for a serial console is set on the kernel cmdline." | 04:17 |
| DanaG | Sweet. | 04:17 |
| DanaG | Now if only we could get that to also not disable plymouth splash... =þ | 04:17 |
| DanaG | s/also not/not also/ | 04:25 |
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| peterkls | well the alternate isnt working either lol | 05:31 |
| knittl | yofel: yeah sure ^^ but i did a full-upgrade, that seemed to work | 06:31 |
| DanaG | Say, anyone know how to list all packages in a section such as "math"? | 07:10 |
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| DanaG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-m-686-compile | 09:54 |
| DanaG | interesting... does that exclude AthlonXP? | 09:55 |
| DanaG | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Grub2BootFramebuffer | 10:05 |
| DanaG | say, why use vesafb and not uvesafb> | 10:06 |
| DanaG | ? | 10:06 |
| DanaG | It's a bummer vesafb can't do modeset. | 10:07 |
| DanaG | er, fbset. | 10:07 |
| DanaG | only uvesafb can. | 10:07 |
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| nperry | Anyone having any priblems with X | 11:16 |
| nperry | Seems that my left mouse button no longer works, checked two mouses and doing the same, works fine on my ucid boot | 11:16 |
| nperry | I'm able to right click | 11:17 |
| nperry | But after about ten mintues of X running the left button doesn't register | 11:17 |
| nperry | Anyone suggest something to debug | 11:19 |
| nperry | Can't see much in logs | 11:20 |
| nperry | checking Xorg.log and dmesg | 11:20 |
| nperry | Going to see if xorg-edgers works | 11:30 |
| xapienz | hello, everybody! I have maverick; hotkeys like 'Alt-Fx' work in xserver and I can't use 'Alt-F2' for example to open a command window - in this case I'm directed to tty2. What should I do? | 12:23 |
| arand | xapienz: Report a bug. Dunno if it's the kernel for that.. | 12:27 |
| xapienz | ok, I'll do that | 12:28 |
| * gnomefreak would have tried setting any key-combo back to default first :) | 12:29 | |
| arand | Bleh, ctrl+alt+T is the worst accelerator ever. | 12:30 |
| xapienz | arand: what package should I report a bug for? | 12:31 |
| arand | I'm not sure, if you're not either, just report it against "ubuntu". #ubuntu-bugs might have more people knowing what the target should be.. | 12:34 |
| * gnomefreak could be wrong but im thinking X controls keys and mouse? | 12:35 | |
| xapienz | now I'm asking at #ubuntu-bugs) | 12:37 |
| xapienz | moreover, ctrl-alt-del restarts my computer | 12:37 |
| xapienz | alt-left moves me to tty6 | 12:38 |
| T0rrent0w | hello geeks | 14:47 |
| om26er | hello! T0rrent0w | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo | Bom S. Joao. bbl | 15:00 |
| nanoguy | hello | 15:53 |
| nanoguy | what is new in the alpha? | 15:53 |
| yofel | nanoguy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview | 16:03 |
| nanoguy | thanks | 16:03 |
| yofel | a bit outdated though | 16:03 |
| yofel | we have kernel 2.6.35 and KDE 4.5b2 now | 16:03 |
| yofel | kde4.6rc1 should be released today | 16:04 |
| yofel | er... 4.5rc1 | 16:04 |
| nanoguy | ok | 16:04 |
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| siegie | I'm testing kubuntu-maverick at the moment, but he starts with the plasma-netbook instead off the plasma-desktop | 17:28 |
| holstein | i remember getting the mythbuntu one somewhere in the alpha of lucid | 17:30 |
| holstein | OH | 17:31 |
| holstein | im thinking boot screens | 17:31 |
| holstein | NM | 17:31 |
| yofel | siegie: how large is your screen? I remember there being a change in kdebase-workspace that decides what to start on the screen size | 17:33 |
| yofel | * Add kubuntu_108_plasma_netbook_for_small_screens.diff to start | 17:33 |
| yofel | plasma-netbook instead of plasma-desktop if screen size is small | 17:33 |
| siegie | yofel: 1280x800 | 17:33 |
| yofel | let me check what that actually does... | 17:34 |
| yofel | hm, that's kdebase-workspace | 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu5 though | 17:38 |
| yofel | ah, it is built on i386 | 17:39 |
| siegie | yofel: i've found a way to set i back to the plasma-desktop, in system-settings. But it strange that he starts with the netbook interface the first time | 17:39 |
| siegie | Anyway i've amd64 | 17:39 |
| yofel | but looking at the patch it should only start netbook if the screen is smaller than 700 :/ | 17:39 |
| yofel | maybe ubuntu4 is broken and that's supposed to fix it | 17:40 |
| siegie | yofel: i'm using 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu4 and i'm using the main archive | 17:43 |
| siegie | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.4.85-0ubuntu5 > amd64 is still building. So i hope the problem is solved then. Thanks yofel | 17:45 |
| Andre_Gondim | I did not find sun-java6-plugins to use in Firefox, does anyone know about it? | 17:52 |
| yofel | hm, seems to be missing in maverick/partner | 17:55 |
| Andre_Gondim | I tried to use lucid partner, but I didn't find it | 17:56 |
| yofel | that should work though | 17:57 |
| yofel | *** 6.20dlj-1ubuntu3 0 | 17:57 |
| yofel | -400 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Packages | 17:57 |
| duffydack | btrfs still isnt available in the daily installer. any ideas when it will appear? | 18:42 |
| gnomefreak | duffydack: before oct. | 18:43 |
| gnomefreak | if it will be there | 18:43 |
| Pici | duffydack: cwatson's email from 2 days ago suggested that btrfs was available in the daily. I don't know if that was restricted to the alternate installer. It warns that you cannot use that filesystem for /boot though | 18:46 |
| gnomefreak | oh i did see that i think | 18:50 |
| duffydack | thats what I dont get, he says its available now, and some people are saying 'alternate installed' but there isnt one for daily | 18:50 |
| Pici | duffydack: ask him? | 18:50 |
| gnomefreak | duffydack: alt installer has been having issues and its not posted everyday | 18:50 |
| gnomefreak | i posted a commanet/question to dev-disuss list | 18:51 |
| gnomefreak | discuss | 18:51 |
| duffydack | doh, i guess I dont look very hard..i`ll try this alternate.. | 18:51 |
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| DanaG | Heh, if I enable the volume-control sound, it plays the sound about 5-10 times per second while I hold my volume softkey. | 19:41 |
| DanaG | It makes it sound like brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrup | 19:41 |
| DanaG | And it uses 100% CPU while doing so. | 19:41 |
| DanaG | =þ | 19:41 |
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