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duanedesignjimisrvrox: you can resize the partition in Ubuntu. You dont have to do it in Windows00:00
duanedesignjimisrvrox: well if you can :P00:00
jimisrvroxduanedesign: well its not allowing me to resize the partition! thats the issue00:01
duanedesignjimisrvrox: if you are using Gparted from the desktop you might try the installer. It has a partitioner based on Gparted by plays by a little different rules00:02
jimisrvroxduanedesign: right but I got to the partition thing and got a bit confused!00:02
jimisrvroxbut I'll run it from the installer00:03
jimisrvroxok duanedesign im at the partition piont00:06
jimisrvroxpoint*00:06
jimisrvroxok now should I add a new partition table or edit the ntfs partition?00:07
duanedesignIt should be something like: "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space00:08
duanedesignSpecify the size of the new partition as a percentage of your entire hard disk00:09
jimisrvroxok but im using xubuntu00:09
jimisrvroxso I think the installer is a bit different00:09
duanedesign edit the ntfs partition00:10
jimisrvroxok so i have the option to change the partition and put it in as ntfs and use the mount point /windows right?00:10
duanedesignjimisrvrox: you dont need to set a mount point. At least my windows partition doesnt have one set in Gparted00:12
jimisrvroxok but I shouldnt format the partition right?00:13
jimisrvroxI figure if I format it it'll wipe it out00:13
duanedesignright00:13
duanedesignyeah dont format00:13
jimisrvroxok but heres the funny thing...when I change it only allows the fs option format option and mount point option00:14
jimisrvroxif I click on the device I can add a new partition table00:14
duanedesignhmm. there should be two options when you get to the partitioning section of the intsller. Manual Partitioning and Automatic...00:15
jimisrvroxright and i cliked on manual00:17
duanedesignjimisrvrox: if you right click on the partition and select information00:18
duanedesignis their a 'Warning' box at the bottom00:19
jimisrvroxyup00:19
jimisrvroxim getting that 46 clusters are referenced multiple times and saying to run chkdsk /f on windows00:19
jimisrvroxNTFS is inconsistent Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it twice00:21
jimisrvrox I bet you its this error00:22
jimisrvroxhttp://pastebin.ca/57063300:22
duanedesignjimisrvrox: definetly boot into Windows and run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE00:26
jimisrvroxso after than then I should be able to resize it then00:26
duanedesigni am not sure how to do that with the /f parameter.00:27
duanedesignyes jimisrvrox00:27
duanedesign*should* :)00:27
jimisrvroxand I kept trying to figure out what the hekc the default pw was for su00:27
jimisrvroxI was gonna try to run the mount -a command bc the error message window was too small to display everything00:27
duanedesignjimisrvrox: by default the root acount is disabled00:29
jimisrvroxyes I am aware of that00:29
jimisrvroxbut you should be able to enable it from the command line via su00:29
jimisrvroxdamn that chkdsk is gonna take a while eh00:30
duanedesignjimisrvrox: to enable root account:  sudo passwd root00:31
duanedesignbut if you can get by with using sudo i would do that00:31
jimisrvroxheh shows you how much I remember from my linux class heh00:31
duanedesignyou can simulate a root login shell with :  sudo -i00:32
duanedesignIf you really need a persistent root login00:32
jimisrvroxwtf happened to command line? press F8 for boot options and it doesnt give me just the damn command line00:32
jimisrvroxso I ran safe mode and ran chkdsk /f and it says oh were sorry we cant unlock the volume00:33
duanedesignhmm. that is odd00:33
jimisrvroxyeah tell me about it00:34
jimisrvroxusually you can get start system in command line00:34
jimisrvroxhey duanedesign you still around?00:55
duanedesignjimisrvrox: sorry on my out. Here is a good wiki page on setting up a dual boot.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Resizing%20Partitions%20Using%20the%20Ubuntu%20Installer01:19
_CommandeR_anyone tried wubi on a raid partition?01:20
holstein_CommandeR_: good question01:37
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41089601:37
holsteindoes that answer you question?01:37
* holstein has never tried01:37
_CommandeR_hm that is from april 200701:39
holsteinyeah01:39
_CommandeR_but i tried wubi 10.4 and well issues after booting it.01:39
holsteinsays the new verion should support it01:39
holsteini was assuming the new verion would be out ;)01:39
holsteinmaybe not01:39
_CommandeR_would be odd01:39
_CommandeR_hm01:44
holsteinindeed01:44
holsteini would probably try and install to an external USB drive01:44
holsteinor some 'normal' partition somewhere01:45
_CommandeR_allready has, tried fedora on my usb it saw my partitions01:45
_CommandeR_already*01:45
holsteini dont have the gear here to test it01:45
_CommandeR_seems odd that noone has asked these questions before, now that raid is not so exclusive anymore.01:46
holsteini know01:46
jimisrvroxwould I assign / and swap are primary and /home is logical right?02:10
jimisrvroxduring a partition02:10
zkriessejimisrvrox: I believe so02:10
jimisrvroxzkriesse: another guy is saying that it really doesnt make much of a difference02:11
zkriesseHmm02:12
_CommandeR_having issues with wubi on my raid drive, stalls on Busybox and initramfs. You guys know how to resovle it?02:12
zkriesseno idea at this time _CommandeR_02:12
_CommandeR_hm02:12
Vantraxzkriesse, if he comes back check if its hardware or software raid02:40
Vantraxhardware raid should be possible but probably have to use the alternate install, software raid (Windows Raid) would break under wubi02:41
zkriessek Vantrax02:42
zkriesse_CommandeR_: Vantrax> zkriesse, if he comes back check if its hardware or software raid02:51
zkriesse<Vantrax> hardware raid should be possible but probably have to use the alternate install, software raid (Windows Raid) would break under wubi02:51
zkriesseVantrax: _CommandeR_ is here02:51
_CommandeR_Hardware raid.02:51
_CommandeR_but now wubi is freaking on me. Trying to install on my non raid disk that is on a another SATA port but now i get an error during installment of wubi = http://pastebin.org/35311002:52
DarkNemesiswe see governments and corporations collaborating in ways unseen before, bringing an enforced  type of [pergitude] <------ how to spell that darn word? spell checker on ubuntu doesnt have a clue03:00
_CommandeR_lol03:00
_CommandeR_google it03:00
Vantraxsomeone tell commander that he can use wubi with the netbook cd04:01
holsteinVantrax: with hardware rai?04:04
holsteinraid*04:04
Vantraxno, no netbook with wubi at all04:14
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tmwhi04:39
tmwI am new to ubuntu!04:39
VantraxI find it funny when someone joins, says something and quits in the same minute. What are we teaching children about patience...05:45
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shahanWINE issue05:56
shahanwant to delete software from WIne List. But its not uninstalling(no uninstall data, I have already deleted the data from from "Browse C: Drive")05:58
Vantraxso you want to delete a menu item05:58
shahanVantrax: yes06:05
Vantraxrun alacrte or right click on the ubuntu logo and go edit menu06:05
Vantraxshould allow you to do it there06:06
Vantraxif its what im thinking06:06
shahanVantrax: yes...06:06
shahanVantrax: its gone.........06:06
shahanVantrax: thank you06:06
Vantraxnp06:06
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shahanI wanna know.... is my Processor support 64bit or 32 Bit.... from  LUCID08:11
shahanI want to download "ubuntu-restricted-extras" offline package.. so that I can install it in a offline computer08:23
shahantell me if any dependecies is required08:23
kermiacshahan: to see what dependencies a package has you can use 'apt-rdepends' - See http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-check-package-dependencies-with-apt-rdepends-on-ubuntu.html08:40
kermiacshahan: to see if your processor is 64 bit you can use 'cpuinfo' - see 'How Do I Find Out CPU is 32bit or 64bit?' @ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/08:45
shahankermiac: I want the "ubuntu-restricted-extras"08:54
shahankermiac: offline installer08:54
kermiacshahan: is this what you need? http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras_offline_installer08:56
kermiacmissed by that much...08:57
DarkNemesisi am setting up a router with ubuntu what port to set as tcp?13:04
FanshaweHey everybody. Anyone have a good guide to setting up LVM withour formatting your system?13:07
ChesamoFanshawe: LVM? Logical Volume Manager? As in, secondary partitions?13:09
FanshaweYeah. It seems my hard drive(s?) on my laptop are recognised as seperate devices, but I'd like for them to act as one.13:10
FanshaweI'm fairly certain they're not just seperate partitions, by the way.13:12
zkriesseChesamo: what happened to aveilux?13:12
ChesamoFanshawe: You're talking about setting up a RAID?13:12
ChesamoOh.13:12
Chesamozkreisse: I'm on my laptop13:12
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zkriesseah13:12
zkriesse!raid13:13
ubot2Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto13:13
zkriesse!raid | Fanshawe13:13
ubot2Fanshawe: please see above13:13
Fanshaweah. Thank you.13:13
hobgoblinDarkNemesis: does it not just see it then?13:16
hobgoblinDarkNemesis: does ubuntu not see the router then?13:27
goodtimeifconfig will tell you hobgoblin13:29
hobgoblinpardon?13:29
goodtimeifconfig13:29
goodtimeshows you your ip and your gateway13:29
goodtimethe gateway is the router13:30
hobgoblinlol - I was asking someone if they could not see their router - you didn't see the question :)13:30
goodtimelol13:30
goodtimeok13:30
hobgoblinI've seen you about a bit on here lately - got lots of little niggling issues have you? or just wandering about and helping where you can13:31
goodtimeyes im a beginner13:31
goodtimeim only window savy but linux i like13:31
hobgoblinexcellent :) so am I and have been for 3 or 4 years so far - always something to learn - as it should be :)13:32
goodtimeright13:32
zkriessegoodtime: well if you are looking to learn your talking to the master... (hobgoblin) not me13:32
goodtimeok oic heh13:32
hobgoblinit's nice to see new people wandering in and learning stuff - especially nice to see people getting into the whole community thing as well13:33
hobgoblinI'd not be calling me a master :)13:33
zkriesselol hobgoblin13:33
zkriesselier13:33
goodtimethats the real reason i like linux13:33
goodtimeplus i like to tell people i run linux13:33
goodtimeipods are toughf13:34
hobgoblinipods are rubbish13:34
hobgobliniWon't get taken in by any of the iHype13:34
aveilleuxI rather like the aesthetics of the iPod13:34
goodtimei need to figure it out i will get paid for some mp3s hehe13:34
goodtimeplus i owe someone 9000 songs messing with a ipod of his13:35
goodtimei lost it somehow idk13:35
hobgoblinaveilleux: I'm too old to worry about what things look like - always been a function over form type :)13:35
hobgoblingoodtime: oh dear ...13:36
goodtimeyeah tell me about it13:36
goodtimemy amerok doesnt work ive try to reinstall it but it wont work13:37
hobgoblinwith ipod? have you tried rhythmbox and gtkpod13:37
goodtimeidk man ill figure it out13:37
goodtimeyeah rhythmbox i could not figure out13:38
hobgoblingtkpod is a good place to start apparently13:38
zkriessegoodtime: need help with ipod?13:38
* zkriesse has one13:38
hobgoblinI though can't help with that - that's why I use mp3players that work with linux13:38
goodtimei have it i just dont know how to use them with these apps13:38
goodtimezkriesse: i dont have it right now the ipod13:39
goodtimeso do i hobgoblin13:39
goodtimebut i need to be ready for ipods because there the most trendy toys13:40
goodtimeim so glad i bought a seagate 500gig external hdd13:52
goodtimeit worked right away13:53
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spursncowboysHi all. I dual boot with win 7 and ubuntu 10.04. While on win7, I was downloading and filled up a separate partition I had for my movies, set up with nfts. Once it was full, I couldn't get to it. I only saw it from my app on Rainmeter. However I couldn't see if from My Computer. When I restarted my computer it would go straight to grub rescue prompt. When I put ubuntu 10.04 live and went to gparted and tried to reinstall, none of my partitio16:26
zkriessehello Scunizi16:41
Scunizimorning16:42
spursncowboysDo you guys have any ideas of what to do. should I try and get ubuntu rescue remix?16:44
holsteinspursncowboys: grub wont boot ubuntu or win7?16:45
spursncowboysno and when i use ubuntu live and gparted, it doesn't recognize any os16:46
holsteinmaybe your hard drive failed16:46
holsteingparted wont boot anything16:47
holstein!grub216:47
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub216:47
holsteini would look at that link16:47
holsteinand try to recover grub from a live CD16:47
holsteinsee if that gets you in16:48
holsteinand go from there16:48
holsteinspursncowboys: did you edit /etc/fstab ?16:48
spursncowboysno what would that do?16:49
holsteinif you had, that might keep your ubuntu system from booting16:49
holsteinjust a question16:49
holsteinyou dont need to edit it16:49
spursncowboysoh ok. I made a new partition a few days ago through a windows program. But I have restarted and grub has worked fine since.16:50
holsteinso, grub is booting win7 and ubuntu?16:51
spursncowboysholstein: yeah16:51
holsteinhmmm16:52
holsteinso, whats the problem spursncowboys ?16:52
zkriessehello pica-pica16:53
spursncowboyswait. no it's not booting. it goes to grub rescue. then in ubuntu live, it doesn't recognize any of the partitions.16:53
siddhionhey. does anyone know what the keyboard shortcuts for lucid are? volume control?16:53
zkriessesiddhion: Keyboard shortcuts for what?16:53
holsteinspursncowboys: i would try restoring grub16:53
spursncowboysholstein: how16:53
holsteinbut you coule have a hardware issue16:53
holsteincould*16:54
holstein!grub2 | spursncowboys16:54
ubot2spursncowboys: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub216:54
siddhionzkriesse volume keyboard shortcut.16:54
spursncowboysholstein: it is an acer apire one. im reading that wiki as we speak. thanks for the help.16:54
zkriessesiddhion: hmm one sec16:55
holsteinspursncowboys: Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD16:55
siddhionzkriesse oh its ok, i found it. System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts16:55
holsteinthat section16:55
holsteinthat would be my first step i think16:55
holsteinbu you could have a bad HD16:55
zkriessesiddhion: heh16:56
zkriessesiddhion: glad you did16:56
spursncowboysholstein: is there a program from ubuntu live, or are you talking about gparted?16:56
siddhionzkriesse ;)16:56
holsteinspursncowboys: there are tools on the live CD16:56
holsteinspursncowboys: Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD16:56
holstein^^ that section explains the process16:57
spursncowboysholstein: i am on ubuntu live right now16:57
* DarkNemesis just got back from the dentist and now has red braces (red and white teeth)17:00
DarkNemesisjust won the group17:00
holsteinspursncowboys: did your partitions show up when you ran 'sudo fdisk l' ?17:03
spursncowboysholstein: no17:04
holsteinseems like your partitions are bad17:05
holsteini would probably hit google for some rescue tools17:05
holsteinthats going to get ugly though17:05
spursncowboysi'm pretty novice with all this.17:06
holsteinyeah?17:06
holsteinyour re-partitioning in windows17:06
holsteinthats fairly advanced17:06
spursncowboys I used partition wizard.17:09
spursncowboysholstein: would ubuntu rescue help?17:10
* holstein has not used ubuntu rescue17:12
duanedesign3/317:23
zkriessehobgoblin: hey got a sec?17:37
_CommandeR_need help with wubi getting errors for some reason = http://pastebin.org/35465717:44
duanedesignhello _CommandeR_17:46
_CommandeR_hi m817:46
* duanedesign looking17:46
duanedesigni've never used Wubi but i'll take a look17:47
_CommandeR_it worked few times but got errors during reboot now it wont even restart17:47
duanedesignugh17:47
_CommandeR_it points to command=c:\windows\system32\bcdedit.exe17:47
_CommandeR_but i have no such folder.17:47
_CommandeR_lol wrong..17:47
_CommandeR_this one lol  = command=C:\Windows\sysnative\bcdedit.exe  /17:48
_CommandeR_i do not have that foler.17:48
_CommandeR_folder*17:48
duanedesignIt looks like their might be an issue with Wubi. It doesn't play very well with Windows 7 64-bit at the moment.17:53
duanedesignI cant confirm this. Just what some users are saying on the forums17:54
_CommandeR_hm but there is no fix..?17:54
_CommandeR_or workarround?17:54
_CommandeR_also searching but finding old cases or not finished bug reports saying it should not do that17:55
_CommandeR_hm the install worked when i did run it in xp compability mode17:58
hobgoblinquick question - which I shall repeat at odd intervals - anyone in here from the UK and had experience getting nfs to work with a homehub17:59
hobgoblin_CommandeR_: at the risk of not sounding like I wish to help - why use wubi and not a dual boot - personally I think it's ok to check things out but no  more than that18:00
_CommandeR_hobgoblin, i have a raid 0 partition18:00
_CommandeR_and also another big one on my harddrive18:00
_CommandeR_want to check kubuntu out a bit18:00
hobgoblinaah - I think we've had this conversation18:00
_CommandeR_already have ubuntu as default on my laptop :)18:01
ronaldo_hello my fist time installation is using a wibi inside the windows....i got the same errors18:01
ronaldo_hello my fist time installation is using a wibi inside the windows....i got the same errors18:01
_CommandeR_have an ati card on this setup so want to check how that works :)18:01
ronaldo_commander18:01
_CommandeR_ronaldo_, what errors ?18:01
ronaldo_purely in downloading of wibi installer.......but the best installation is not install an ubuntu inside the windows using the wibi installer18:02
hobgoblin_CommandeR_: not got enough memory to run a vm?18:02
_CommandeR_ronaldo_, do not get18:03
_CommandeR_hobgoblin, vm got a limited 3d capability from what i know18:03
ronaldo_ok what Os that using ....Windows Vista or Windows 718:03
_CommandeR_win7 64bit18:03
_CommandeR_seems that wubi points to wrong file when trying to edit boot18:04
_CommandeR_C:\Windows\sysnative\bcdedit.exe/delete instead of windows\system32\bcdedit.exe18:04
hobgoblin_CommandeR_: not sure - my checking things out does not run to the flim flam - I just really want to know how the things work in package install terms for instance18:04
_CommandeR_hm but hearing that ATi cards run into few issues on linux is well need to test out first.18:05
ronaldo_i do not know in Windows7   but I have a problem when i using wibi installer inside the windows....the error after installing the ubuntu os isssssssss......some user -group account ...problem18:05
_CommandeR_have 5970card and well not sure if it is supported18:05
_CommandeR_hobgoblin, rebooting to check if kubuntu boots. brb18:07
gohi team18:17
duanedesignhello go18:18
* go is Akos/Puck18:18
duanedesignmaybe you could combine all three monikers---->   gopuckakos18:19
duanedesign:P18:19
gohaha18:20
andreii don't know how to say this18:26
andreiwhat i have to append at a command when i need to pause listing18:26
andreii remember there was something with | but i don't know what to look for in google18:27
andreiand how do i apply changes that i make in the file browser list style to all folders?18:29
hobgoblinandrei - less or more to pause listing18:44
hobgoblinandrei: file manager issue - edit preferences - views18:48
andreithank you19:08
hobgoblinwelcome19:12
dragondonHey all, any idea why VNC refuses to allow my android phone to connect with a password yet works fine without the password.  (Yes, 'm typing the right one....)19:49
zkriessehey team20:38
qwiksilver711i have a alienwarem11x with a switchable graphics card, ubuntu on the 2.6.32 kernel runs with the graphics card on all the time, which kills my battery, now the 2.6.34 kernel turns it off, but no wifi drivers for that... how do i fix21:32
skiphave installed, by mistake, 10.01. How can I tell which partitions this caused to be made and how to remove them?21:33
qwiksilver711i didnt think there was a 10.01 skip21:33
Bodsdaskip: 'sudo fdisk -l' will list your partitions21:34
duanedesignqwiksilver711: do you know which wifi driver you need?21:41
qwiksilver711sorry21:44
skipsooooo, I screwed up . Again. It is lucid 10.04. I tried to download lucid 3 times cause nothing happened, I thought. Then: out of space. How get space back?21:44
qwiksilver711yes21:44
qwiksilver711i need the broadcom dw1250 sta driver21:44
Bodsdaskip: delete files? 'df -h' will list percent of drive space used on each of your partitions21:45
skipnot sure what I am looking at. It lists files I would not delete. Is there a way to send copy to you ? I tried select all , copy  and paste to this line. Did not send21:51
qwiksilver711no ideas?21:55
Bodsdaskip: yeah, run this, it will install a small app for sending info to a weblink then it will run it - 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit'21:57
skipOK. Got it. How use it?22:01
duanedesignskip: <command> | pastebinit22:10
_CommandeR_hm22:46
_CommandeR_hi people o/22:46
duanedesignhi _CommandeR_22:47
duanedesign_CommandeR_: Wubi still fighting you?22:47
_CommandeR_yeah22:48
_CommandeR_tried xp mode but then it modified wrong bootfile -_-22:48
_CommandeR_vista mode gives same error as win7 mode.22:48
_CommandeR_odd that it worked previous times with the same installer on same os22:50
_CommandeR_hm ok so how is ubuntu working on raid system, as far as i know Windows needs drivers for raid while installing so how is ubuntu on that?23:05

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