[00:01] <jmarsden|work> So... send it as a signed message, and you should be good.
[00:11] <arand> stenten: enigmail is convenient, if you use TB.
[00:11] <stenten> Well Gmail apparently can't do PGP keys at all, which explains why I couldn't figure out how to sign my message with one. I thought it only couldn't do encryption. Bog.
[00:18] <arand> I guess it could be done manually, but I don't know of anything convenient that allows online gpg signing...
[03:53] <DrKenobi> Hello everyone! I think Bug #597478 should be sent upstream. The problem is I don't know where is upstream!
[03:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597478 in blockout2 (Ubuntu) "No blockout2 menu entry in Games (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597478
[04:27] <kermiac> DrKenobi: re bug 597478 - upstream is debian
[04:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597478 in blockout2 (Ubuntu) "No blockout2 menu entry in Games (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597478
[04:28] <DrKenobi> kermiac, ok. I will read later how to send it to Debian.
[04:29] <DrKenobi> I think Bug #597108 should be set as 'Triaged'
[04:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597108 in vlc (Debian) (and 1 other project) "please update vlc to 1.1.0 (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597108
[04:31] <micahg> DrKenobi: no, packaging bugs have a different workflow
[04:31] <micahg> DrKenobi: also notice that bdrung already claimed the bug
[04:32] <DrKenobi> micahg: Oh, you are right, sorry
[04:32] <micahg> DrKenobi: np
[06:09] <DrKenobi> i think Bug #112703 status should be triaged
[06:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 112703 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "tomboy starts with search dialog rather than as minimized in notification area (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 74)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112703
[06:44] <vish> DrKenobi: done
[06:46] <DrKenobi> thanks vish
[06:46] <vish> np.
[06:47] <vish> DrKenobi: you've applied for a mentor... but i'v noticed you've been triaging for a while , was there someone who has been mentoring you?
[06:50] <DrKenobi> vish: no, I just read the wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs
[06:50] <DrKenobi> I've ben asking a lot here
[06:54] <vish> DrKenobi: neat , it "seems" most of the mentors are fully at the time you prefer ,but some of them have idle students , so we have to clear them up first.
[06:54] <vish> full*
[06:56] <DrKenobi> vish: ok, I'll wait. I'll go on asking here :)
[06:56] <vish> DrKenobi: yeah ,no worries,  you can keep asking here , you seem to be doing good already :)
[06:57] <DrKenobi> thanks vish!
[07:28] <priya> #ubuntu-bugs
[07:29] <selvamani> priya: hi
[07:30] <priya> selvamani: hi
[07:30] <selvamani> what is your query
[07:30] <priya> selvamani: how to do the bugs triage
[07:31] <selvamani> priya: there is a link on the top of message
[07:32] <priya> selvamani: ya i try
[07:32] <selvamani> priya: mmm
[07:33] <selvamani> just close it that is it
[07:33] <selvamani> double click on the particular person
[07:35]  * DrKenobi heading to bed, i don't want to see more bugs je
[07:56] <drew212> ddecator: are you around?
[08:15] <drew212> whenever i search launchpad for packages it gives me a timeout error, anyone else have this problem?
[08:24] <priya> what about xdg-utils
[08:50] <vish> priya: xdg-utils?  you are looking to triage those bugs?
[08:50] <priya> ya
[08:51] <priya> vish: ya
[08:51] <priya> vish: shal i find the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:52] <vish> priya: you can triage any package , xdg-utils included , the bugs are listed here > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils
[08:54] <vish> priya: try reproducing a bug and mark bugs confirmed or add more information if required , also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad , has useful info about bug triaging
[08:54] <priya> vish: thank you
[08:54] <vish> np.
[11:17] <somethinginteres> Should this be set to wishlist? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/597627
[11:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597627 in firefox (Ubuntu) "please update firefox to 3.6.4 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[11:20] <xteejx> yes
[11:21] <xteejx> somethinginteres: Have changed it for you
[11:22] <somethinginteres> xteejx: thanks
[11:22] <xteejx> no prob :)
[11:24] <seb128> users should stop jumping on bug filing this way
[11:24] <seb128> the 3.6.4 candidate versions are ready in the security team ppa for some weeks
[11:24] <seb128> they will be uploaded, no need to open bug reports about it
[11:25] <xteejx> I thought we would have it by maverick
[11:25] <xteejx> or were planning to
[11:25] <seb128> we will get it from karmic to maverick yes
[11:25] <xteejx> cool
[11:26] <seb128> hardy to maverick rather I meant there
[11:27] <xteejx> I know what you meant :P
[11:27] <xteejx> :)
[11:29]  * xteejx has his fingers crossed that he gets Ubuntu membership
[11:29] <xteejx> If anyone wants to leave a testimonial please do I'd appreciate it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/xteejx << not trying to spam btw :)
[12:35] <xapienz> hello, everybody!
[12:35] <xapienz> I have a problem. When I use a hotkey 'Alt-Fx' from xserver (for example, from KDE, but it doesn't make sense), I'm directed to console (tty2)
[12:36] <xapienz> if I press 'ctrl-alt-del', the computer restarts
[12:36] <xapienz> I use maverick meerkat and don't know what package I should choose to report a bug
[12:39] <xapienz> should I report a bug against "ubuntu"?
[12:39] <arand> Hmm.. Could that be plymouth still picking up the keyboard? (I still have no idea really..)
[12:40] <xapienz> should I try to stop plymouth?
[12:40] <arand> xapienz: It can always be changed later, so you can start off with that target..
[12:41] <arand> xapienz: Well plymouth shouldn't be running sfter it's booted up I don't think.. (check with "ps -A | grep plymouth"
[12:41] <xapienz> it is running
[12:42] <xapienz> plymouthd
[12:42] <arand> Right, I don't know for sure, but here on my lucid machine it isn't running as I've started. SO I guess one test is to kill it and see what happens..
[12:43] <xapienz> I've stopped it, now I'll try to restart X
[12:47] <xapienz>  it worked =) thank you
[12:48] <arand> Right, so then I would guess the bug should be reported against plymouth.
[12:48] <yofel> plymouth is still running here and alt+f2 doesn't give me tty2, but maybe that's just KDE being more forceful when handling hotkeys
[12:48] <xapienz> yofel: I have kde too
[12:49] <yofel> odd then, but if that helps do file it against plymouth
[14:59] <BUGabundo> Bom S. Joao. bbl
[15:54] <somethinginteres> hi all, I am having an issue whee when I attempt to 'bend' windows (compiz enabled) it works but I get graphics glitches appearing as white lines. This happened for some time then stopped but it appears to have come back.. does this sound like a bug?
[16:00] <yofel> bug 535509 and bug 506342, which one would you guys use as the main bug? I tend to 535509
[16:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 535509 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-get always crash with Segmentation fault (core dumped) if /var/log/apt doesn't exist. (affects: 5) (dups: 2) (heat: 63)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535509
[16:01] <ubot2> yofel: Bug 506342 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/506342 is private
[16:01] <yofel> bug 506342
[16:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 506342 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-get crashed with SIGSEGV in __fprintf_chk() (affects: 32) (dups: 9) (heat: 200)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506342
[16:32] <xteejx> Afternoon all!
[16:33] <zus> hello
[16:34] <xteejx> zus: Hi :)
[16:58] <hallyn> pedro_: hi, i'm looking to be added to bugcontrol so i can set importance...  i hit 'join' on the launchpad page, pls let me knwo if i should do anything else.
[17:05] <pedro_> hallyn, an email needs to be send to the BugControl ML, please have a look to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[17:08] <hallyn> kthx
[17:49] <drew212> ddecator: you around?
[18:42] <bdmurray> jcastro: to be clear about bug 591394 you want the package status page to link to the debian pts page?
[18:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591394 in ubuntu-qa-website "Status pages should link to corresponding Debian QA pages (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591394
[18:43] <jcastro> bdmurray: yessir!
[18:43] <ddecator> drew212: i am now for a few minutes, not sure if you're still around
[18:43] <jcastro> bdmurray: if I can get a companion blog post when you fix that that would be nice ice cream!
[18:45]  * micahg would like some ice cream :)
[18:46]  * ddecator is now hungry :(
[18:49] <micahg> drew212: FYI, there was a recent upload to Maverick with openjdk fixes, so make sure people are testing the updated version
[18:49] <micahg> ddecator: ^^^
[18:49] <ddecator> micahg: good to know, thanks
[19:20] <xteejx> bug 572551 can someone confirm this please?
[19:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 572551 in merkaartor (Ubuntu) "merkaartor loses top of application if maximised (affects: 2) (heat: 68)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572551
[19:35] <drew212> micahg: are you still around?
[19:35] <micahg> drew212: yes, but only for quick questions
[19:35] <drew212> micahg: nevermind, i was looking for an explanation of what we need for a proper crash report
[19:36] <micahg> drew212: sorry, later this evening maybe
[19:36] <drew212> micahg: for sure =)
[19:47] <ddecator> pedro_: ping
[19:48] <pedro_> ddecator, hello, how are you?
[19:48] <ddecator> pedro_: doing good, and yourself?
[19:49] <pedro_> ddecator, i'm good as well, thanks ;-)
[19:49] <pedro_> ddecator, how's that wiki work going?
[19:49] <pedro_> hello charlie-tca
[19:50] <ddecator> pedro_: that's what i was just going to ask about. i'm just about to start, but i'm wondering where your main source was for the png images. i don't want to just re-use the ones on the BugSquad page over and over :p
[19:54] <pedro_> ddecator, most of them are coming from the hicolor-icon-theme and gnome-icon-theme
[19:55] <pedro_> ddecator, i'm just rescaling those svg's
[19:55] <ddecator> pedro_: ah, i never would have thought to use icons from the system...thanks! haha
[19:56] <micahg> drew212: also keep in mind the 3.6.4 Firefox update will help with flash crashes
[19:57] <pedro_> ddecator, you're welcome, thanks for working on the wiki pages :-)
[19:57] <pedro_> ddecator, if you need help with anything (format, etc) just let me know
[19:57] <Aquina> http://mozilla.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4173/537 for a listing of possible problems
[19:57] <ddecator> pedro_: will do, thanks :)
[19:59] <drew212> ddecator: hey, how should we handle this bug 545582?
[19:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 545582 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox 3.5 would not start, reinstalled 3 times and it still crashed. Installed Firefox 3.6 works fine (affects: 1) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545582
[19:59] <drew212> if its working in 3.6 should we worry about 3.5?
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Hello, pedro_
[20:00] <micahg> drew212: bug is old, FF3.5 isn't suppoorted on Lucid
[20:00] <ddecator> dang, micahg beat me to it
[20:00] <micahg> ddecator: sorry, I'll go back to other things now
[20:00] <drew212> micahg: i know, should i invalidate it and tell him that?
[20:00] <ddecator> micahg: haha, it's fine, i appreciate the help :p
[20:01] <micahg> drew212: yep
[20:21] <xteejx> Evening all
[20:22] <xteejx> micahg: Don't suppose I could ask you to give a testimonial for me for Ubuntu membership could I?
[20:25] <micahg> xteejx: when's the meeting?
[20:25] <xteejx> micahg: 6th July 20:00 U?TC
[20:26] <xteejx> *UTC
[20:26] <micahg> xteejx: can you ping me this weekend?
[20:26] <xteejx> Sorry for being cheeky :P
[20:26] <xteejx> micahg: Yeah sure micah :)
[20:27] <xteejx> Oh I didn't realise it's nearly 2 weeks away! Oops
[20:27] <micahg> xteejx: that's why I asked :)
[20:28] <xteejx> I thought it was closer to the 30th than the 23rd hehe, didn't look at the Gnome panel
[20:28]  * xteejx is embarrassed :S
[20:39] <xteejx> Not spamming the channel guys, but the Ubuntu BugSquad Facebook group is back if anyone wants to join it's at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=88568611005 .... now back to triaging :D
[20:40] <pedro_> we have a facebook group ? wow
[20:40] <xteejx> Also, I didn't get the notifier for tomorrow's hugday can someone forward me it please?
[20:40] <pedro_> thanks for the info xteejx ;-)
[20:40] <xteejx> pedro_: I made it hehe :)
[20:41] <xteejx> pedro_: I saw the testimonial - brilliant!! Thanks Pedro :)
[20:41] <pedro_> xteejx, announcement sent
[20:42] <xteejx> cool thanks pedro :)
[20:42] <pedro_> xteejx, you're welcome, keep up the good work ;-)
[20:42] <xteejx> pedro_, I will :D
[20:42] <ddecator> pedro_: so i've come to the conclusion that the hardest part about this is deciding on what icons to use :p
[20:43] <pedro_> ddecator, lol
[21:01] <ddecator> dang, that messes up the table of contents..
[21:05] <ddecator> pedro_: any ideas how i can use that style without it messing up the table of contents?
[21:09] <pedro_> ddecator, reducing the size of the title bars? do you have any tmp page created on the wiki to have a look?
[21:09] <ddecator> pedro_: not atm. if i replace the headers with the style you used, it no longer shows everything in the contents since they are no longer headers
[21:12] <hdon> hello :) "new" bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/405252 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSOmjM26dk
[21:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 405252 in ubuntu "focus-follows-mouse option fights alt-tab function (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New]
[21:14] <hdon> it's very hard for me as a developer because i make use of Alt+Tab very often. but it seems that with compiz and mouselook enabled, alt+tab frequently misbehaves!!!
[21:21] <jfi> "If you enable focus-follows-mouse" where is it? in compiz settings?
[21:21] <jfi> at least I don't reproduce with my current settings
[21:26]  * micahg wonders if anyone who's an indicator expert can write a canned response for indicators no longer having a right click option
[21:40] <hdon> jfi, on Karmic Koala, go to System menu, Preferences, then Windows. (not that anyone here prefers windows :P) then click "Select windows when the mouse moves over them"
[21:41] <jfi> ok, got it:)
[21:45] <jfi> I don't reproduce (10.10alpha) but maybe I did not understand the steps:)
[21:47] <jfi> I put the mouse cursor on a window, in the tab area, between 2 preview icons, alt-tab another window, this last one gain the focus which I assume is the right behaviour with your setting
[21:47] <jfi> did I miss something?
[21:48] <jfi> after the alt-tab, I can move the mouse without changing the focus until I move to another window
[21:51] <hdon> jfi, the way you describe it sounds the way it is supposed to be :)
[21:51] <hdon> jfi, all i can ask is you try to put the cursor in different positions
[21:52] <hdon> jfi, it's very touchy, but for whatever reason it seems to happen to me accidentally *all* the time! :(
[21:52] <hdon> i guess only when you want it to happen it is hard to make happen :P
[21:56] <jfi> that's the worst kind of bugs:)
[22:00] <jfi> I also don't reproduce with lucid, I don't have any computer with karmic:(
[22:01] <hdon> ah
[22:01] <xteejx> Try testing bugs with a Maverick LiveCD
[22:01] <xteejx> That's the dev release at the mo
[22:07] <jfi> hdon: maybe you should add an "apport" report or at least add the distribution version in your bug report
[22:08] <xteejx> apport-collect <bug #>
[22:10] <jcastro> bdmurray: what about not linking the pages when the package is mentioned in the sync blacklist?
[22:10] <jcastro> and instead saying "this package isn't in debian under this name"
[22:13] <hdon> jfi, i shall do just that
[22:58] <tulkastaldo> So, I was interested in finding out more about the bugs stuff after a post somewhere about bug days and went to the wiki for more information. Anyway, I don't know if it's an ironic statement or a typeo, but at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs the link to Bug Days has a label of Hug Days...
[23:06] <stenten> Hug Day is a cute petname for Bug Day.
[23:06] <tulkastaldo> roger that
[23:06] <stenten> Since the idea is that you give a hug to those who triaged bugs for Bug Day.
[23:07] <stenten> But I agree, it's a little confusing.
[23:13] <kamusin> tulkastaldo, this is a good entry point  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[23:18] <tulkastaldo> 10x
[23:24] <kamusin> good luck, now to home
[23:28] <tulkastaldo> vaya con queso