| micahg | jdstrand: so, I guess no OpenJDK update :( | 00:03 |
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| jdstrand | micahg: huh? | 00:04 |
| micahg | jdstrand: reply to your email, well, not exactly that, but it looks a lot harder than we thought | 00:04 |
| jdstrand | I don't have the reply yet | 00:05 |
| micahg | oh, it was sent 10 minutes ago | 00:05 |
| jdstrand | ah, there it is | 00:05 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand, i've got epiphany build against xul1.9.2 on hardy now | 00:14 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i will test it quickly and then get it in to the PPA | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo_IsBack | YAY | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo_IsBack | desktop couch dead again | 00:21 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I might be able to backport the basic plugin code to jaunty from lucid since it's a newer version of openjdk, that wasn't possible w/hardy | 00:22 |
| micahg | but it looks like either way, we're in trouble | 00:23 |
| jdstrand | micahg: that won't pass the TCK either, according to doko | 00:23 |
| micahg | jdstrand: right, that's why I said either way we're in trouble :( | 00:23 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I don't think I can make the call. I pushed it up the ladder | 00:26 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I forgot to merge the changelog from karmic into the new build | 00:28 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: openjdk backport | 00:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - we need the cairo patch in the xulrunner source too | 00:46 |
| chrisccoulson_ | the fonts in epiphany are hideous | 00:46 |
| chrisccoulson_ | that's an easy fix though, we should probably just do that in maverick too | 00:46 |
| chrisccoulson_ | other than that, epiphany is working fine with xul192 now | 00:47 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - how much effort have you put in to midbrowser? the current version doesn't actually appear to work on hardy anyway | 00:55 |
| chrisccoulson_ | "Could not find compatible GRE between 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.1" | 00:55 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: idk, at a minimum convert the *-xpcom calls to libxul | 00:55 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: that can probably be fixed with a GRE patch | 00:55 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i wouldn't bother trying to fix it if it doesn't work already | 00:56 |
| chrisccoulson_ | (it certainly shouldn't be fixed through -security) | 00:56 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: well, it's in main and it should have been fixed long ago, I guess no one is using it though | 00:56 |
| micahg | bug 255515 | 00:57 |
| chrisccoulson_ | yeah, i wouldn't worry about it too much. it's not something that should be a priority if it doesn't work already | 00:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 255515 in midbrowser (Ubuntu) "could not find compatible GRE (heat: 4)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255515 | 00:57 |
| * micahg guesses no one really owned the rdepends before | 00:57 | |
| chrisccoulson_ | ah, cool. so, we can drop that from our list, as we shouldn't fix that with this update | 00:57 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ^^jdstrand :) | 00:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: k, then should I try to see how much work backporting the lucid version of kazekhase (universe) or work on jaunty/karmic backporting? | 00:58 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - yeah, if you like | 01:00 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i suppose i should make sure midbrowser doesn't work in jaunty too | 01:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: which one should I be focusing on? | 01:01 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - you can do kazekhase for now. i will check midbrowser when i next start my jaunty kvm | 01:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: k, thanks | 01:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - epiphany xul192 port uploaded to PPA now :) | 01:05 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i will do the same for jaunty now | 01:06 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: re midbrowser> it is totally busted. I don't think it is a blocker for this update (fix in SRU) | 01:34 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: re epiphany> cool, will test tomorrow | 01:34 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: oh wait-- is this epiphany avoiding 1.9.2, or epiphany *using* 1.9.2? | 01:34 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand, this is epiphany using 1.9.2 | 01:35 |
| chrisccoulson_ | so it benefits from all the security fixes too ;) | 01:35 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: oh, that is really excellent!! | 01:35 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: yeah, I'll test it a lot tomorrow :) | 01:35 |
| chrisccoulson_ | thanks | 01:35 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i'm not too sure what is going on with https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1800664 , but it seems to have been stuck for days now | 12:08 |
| chrisccoulson | "Started 1 minute ago, Finished 1 minute ago (took 23 hours, 59 minutes, 43.3 seconds) " | 12:09 |
| chrisccoulson | :-/ | 12:09 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: #is ... poke lamont ;) | 12:09 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - thanks | 12:09 |
| asac | he needs to kill that job | 12:09 |
| asac | or do something else crazy | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | where is the option to use maybe 20 chars instead of 100+? | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | thunderbird^^^ | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | looking through advanced configuration there are a ton of things. i dont recall where. | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | wrapping was the word i was thinking of, not sure what key this is | 12:41 |
| gnomefreak | viewing the message it wraps great when editing/replying it pretty much puts the message on 1 line | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | thunderbird 3.0.5 is posted :) | 12:55 |
| lyhana8 | hi, do you advice to use the ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa for day to day usage ? | 13:13 |
| lyhana8 | if not, how do I get Fx-3.6.4 ? Doesn't seem to be on the repo | 13:13 |
| gnomefreak | lyhana8: depends do like you thinks breaking? | 13:14 |
| gnomefreak | and we have a stable PPA for FF | 13:14 |
| gnomefreak | also would help if i knew what version of ubuntu you have | 13:15 |
| lyhana8 | gnomefreak: not firefox :P that why I want to use Lorentz | 13:15 |
| lyhana8 | gnomefreak: Kubuntu 10.04 | 13:15 |
| lyhana8 | what is the PPA URL ? | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa i think that is what you are looking for. what do you mean "not firefox" | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | !info firefox lucid | 13:17 |
| gnomefreak | there is anohter PPA iirc | 13:17 |
| lyhana8 | gnomefreak: I do web dev so I don't like having to restart firefox hundreds of time a day | 13:17 |
| ubot2 | gnomefreak: firefox (source: firefox): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 (lucid), package size 10601 kB, installed size 28668 kB | 13:18 |
| lyhana8 | with tens of addons and tabs and a bad graphics card that really annoying | 13:18 |
| gnomefreak | still not answering my question, what does restarting have to do with different versions of ff | 13:18 |
| lyhana8 | gnomefreak: the daily package are probably not stable = crashing a lot more than stable release | 13:19 |
| gnomefreak | yes i know, that is why i asked you if you were ok with breakage | 13:20 |
| gnomefreak | anyway that is the PPA i have | 13:20 |
| lyhana8 | I'll be fine with the one you give me :) | 13:21 |
| lyhana8 | thanks | 13:21 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: hi! so in testing jaunty/tbird/nss bug #559918 regressed | 13:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 559918 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 5 other projects) "Thunderbird cannot initialize the security component when libnss3-0d 3.12.6 is installed (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 76)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559918 | 13:53 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: to test I enabled a master password, then enabled FIPS, shutdown tbird, installed libnss3-0d, then start tbird | 13:53 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: hardy is still confirmed as ok | 13:54 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - thanks. i guess we need to add the same fix to jaunty that we did for karmic already | 13:54 |
| * jdstrand nods | 13:54 | |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: actually, my hardy test was invalid. retesting | 13:57 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: yes, hardy is fine | 14:01 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i've not had much chance to look at this openjdk problem yet this morning, i'm still trying to make some progress on the applications in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/xulrunner-list , and fix the ones that are broken by the update | 14:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure whether you can spend some time on that or not | 14:01 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I'm not comfortable making the call wrt openjdk. I will continue to corrdinate and work towards a decision | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks, that would be a great help | 14:02 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: when does micahg come online? | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | he's normally around from mid-afternoon, so quite soon | 14:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: maybe he can look at the feasibility of the openjdk options I mentioned in the email? | 14:05 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, possibly | 14:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i think he's working on porting kazehakase to xul192 atm, but that's not so important | 14:06 |
| jdstrand | cool | 14:06 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i got some feedback on my font configuration patch this morning | 14:07 |
| jdstrand | I've not looked at openjdk before, and I'm trying to test jaunty and later epiphany | 14:07 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: oh yeah? | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | it still needs some work before we can use it, as karl pointed out that the changes i made would also apply to printed fonts (which use the same code path) | 14:07 |
| jdstrand | ah | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | so, he's given me some pointers, and i will look at that again later | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | i reuploaded xulrunner to hardy and jaunty last night to add the cairo patch we already have in firefox | 14:08 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: what do you think of yanking the patch, building without it and then working on it for SRU? I can release note that that is the plan then | 14:08 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm quite happy to fix the font configuration in a SRU | 14:08 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: that should give more time for the blockers | 14:08 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: cool, great. I'll update the wiki | 14:09 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 14:09 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I'm going to add a jaunty task to bug #559918 | 14:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 559918 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 5 other projects) "Thunderbird cannot initialize the security component when libnss3-0d 3.12.6 is installed (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 76)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559918 | 14:14 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - there's no reason for me to not upload 3.6.4 to maverick is there? | 14:30 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: none at all. in fact it is encouraged to see if any regressions pop up | 14:32 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - ok, i will do that shortly | 14:32 |
| jdstrand | cool, thanks | 14:32 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - we discussed at UDS about uploading the beta test packages we put in the u-m-s PPA in to the development release as well. were you involved with that (i don't remember)? | 14:33 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I was not | 14:33 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - would you see any issues with us doing that? | 14:33 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: only that we are at the mercy of upstream to fix the bugs. I'm also not sure how that fits in with branding | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's also what i was unclear about | 14:35 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: eg, in the dailies ppa we use their codename because even though there are no patches, it isn't the official release | 14:35 |
| jdstrand | eg 'shiretoko' or something | 14:36 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps [reed] might have an opinion on that | 14:38 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: fyi, excepting the libnss3-0d issue, nss on jaunty seems solid | 14:38 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, that's good. i'm just about to upload thunderbird with the dangling symlinks removed to fix that | 14:39 |
| fta2 | BUGabundo, http://armorgames.com/play/6061/light-bot-20 | 14:43 |
| BUGabundo | ahh missed me ? | 14:43 |
| fta2 | always | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo | Bom S. Joao. bbl | 15:00 |
| bobby | Does anyone know why 3.7a6pre uses over 60MB of memory idling? | 16:44 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I'm having trouble uploading fennec (jaunty,karmic) to the transition PPA because of tarball mismatch, so I'll upload to my personal PPA | 18:11 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - ok, no problem. is the tarball actually really different, or just has a different md5sum? | 18:12 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: should just be md5sum, it was the same release | 18:12 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I'm guessing file times might be different | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson_ | that's ok then :) | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg / jdstrand - i see seamonkey 2.0.5 was released yesterday too | 18:35 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: are you around? i cant seem to find the char. wrapping setting in config editor for TB. i dont know why the latest update would reset it | 18:35 |
| gnomefreak | it was same with tb | 18:35 |
| gnomefreak | 3.0.5 | 18:35 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: iirc that needs the new nss. I am fine with pushing that to -security after hardy and jaunty have the new nss | 18:36 |
| gnomefreak | i think. next time i check email ill let you know\ | 18:36 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_, micahg: just give me the word that it works and ping me | 18:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - yeah, it does. so, shall we aim to push that out to all releases once we have the firefox update done? | 18:37 |
| gnomefreak | yeah it was tb 3.0.5 that was released with Sm 2.0.5 | 18:37 |
| * gnomefreak goes for smoke to think | 18:38 | |
| micahg | jdstrand: can we wait to push SM2 to hardy/jaunty/karmic? | 18:39 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: yes, though I can push those piecemeal since it is in universe. ie, karmic and lucid already have the new nss | 18:39 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I plan to wait until you guys tell me to push it, so 'yes' :) | 18:39 |
| micahg | jdstrand: actually, nevermind, Lucid is the only release affected by the cairo version issue | 18:39 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I have to have it reuploaded with the CVEs | 18:40 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: and depending on what happens with openjdk, hardy and lucid ff364 may go out sooner, which means hardy will have the new nss | 18:40 |
| jdstrand | like I said, just ping me | 18:40 |
| jdstrand | getting ff364 out is the priority afaic | 18:41 |
| gnomefreak | openjdk being fixed for maverick too? | 18:42 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: mailnews.wraplength | 18:43 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks | 18:44 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: doko just uploaded a fix to maverick for openjdk | 18:44 |
| * gnomefreak writes this down | 18:44 | |
| gnomefreak | micahg: cool ;) | 18:44 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it shouldn't be overwritten on update, please let me know | 18:44 |
| gnomefreak | he has maintained java for a long time now | 18:44 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: it was but i will keep note of it | 18:44 |
| gnomefreak | thats odd | 18:45 |
| gnomefreak | 60 is perfect. | 18:49 |
| gnomefreak | we dont have weave in archives? | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - if we do the release on hardy and lucid earlier, we aren't planning to do that this week are we? | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson_ | (we'll be getting quite close to the weekend tomorrow) | 18:53 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, we're trying to minimize packages in the archive, is it arch specific? | 18:54 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I was thinking tomorrow evening as a possibility. that will give Friday for putting out fires | 18:54 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: (my evening) | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: dont know i thought we had it after we poushed it to debian | 18:54 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it's in debian? | 18:55 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ok, i'll try and go through hardy again and just make sure it is completely ready to go | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: the extension is | 18:55 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I'm starting testing of epiphany now | 18:55 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: package name? | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | FYI: The status of the weave source package | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | in Debian's testing distribution has changed. | 18:55 |
| ddecator | dang, looks like i'll have to make the config file for sb sooner than i thought.. | 18:55 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: ah, I see it | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | i thought we had it in Lucid but never made it to Mavercik | 18:55 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it is arch specific :( | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | good reason | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | i am looking for a good <not broken is prefered> bookmark sync. fumanbol is only for paid accounts with U1 | 18:57 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it's not arch specific, they just build it wrong I think | 18:58 |
| gnomefreak | bindwood seems to be problematic and IIRC its qt | 18:58 |
| micahg | bdrung_: do you know about xul-ext-sync? | 18:59 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: if it's not arch specific, I'd rather not have it in the archive | 18:59 |
| gnomefreak | ok. i personally dont care what the extension is as long as it works for what i need it to :) | 19:00 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: we dont have a xul-ext-sync | 19:01 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: right :) | 19:01 |
| gnomefreak | that gives me an idea though :) | 19:01 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: http://packages.debian.org/sid/xul-ext-sync | 19:01 |
| gnomefreak | i am seeing a post to dev-discuss list about FF3.6.4 | 19:01 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks | 19:02 |
| * micahg wonders if that's worth subscribing to | 19:02 | |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ill see if i can find it. depends on what you are looking for to ask/answer | 19:02 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: neither really, just want to keep up to date | 19:02 |
| chrisccoulson_ | please, no more extensions in the archive :) | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 19:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I think it's packaged incorrectly in debian as arch specific | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson_: ill trade for this one after i test and make sure its good | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-June/011703.html | 19:04 |
| * micahg thinks devel-discuss is something woth subscribing to | 19:04 | |
| gnomefreak | it is sometimes | 19:04 |
| ddecator | so now that mozilla released 3.6.4 officially, are we going to push that as an update soon? | 19:05 |
| * micahg thinks chrisccoulson_ should answer the above thread and I think it's because of upgrades/new langpacks | 19:06 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: fennec built fine: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test/+packages | 19:07 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: no | 19:07 |
| micahg | bdrung_: k, thanks | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson_ | hmmm, about that thread, there's not much we can do about that. firefox does the same after any addon has been updated (including the ones from a.m.o) | 19:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: right | 19:08 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i will respond to that in a bit, but i have more important things to do first :) | 19:09 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: of course :) | 19:09 |
| * gnomefreak hopes *sync will allow me to use ubuntuone (the free account) | 19:10 | |
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| micahg | gnomefreak: no, I think it syncs to their servers | 19:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/What+is+Firefox+Sync#Where_s_all_my_data_ | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | it can be used with any server including mozilla servers | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | http://packages.debian.org/sid/xul-ext-sync thats wqhat it says here anyway | 19:11 |
| * gnomefreak looking at your link | 19:12 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: oh, I don't know if they did that or it's an option | 19:12 |
| gnomefreak | the link you gave me says mozilla servers but doesnt say if you have to | 19:13 |
| gnomefreak | hey if i can use mozilla server for free im good with that :) | 19:14 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: don't worry, it's encrypted locally before it's transmitted | 19:15 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i see that | 19:15 |
| ddecator | FF Sync? works good for me | 19:16 |
| gnomefreak | oh im gonna play with this | 19:17 |
| gnomefreak | ddecator: upstream or Debian? | 19:20 |
| ddecator | gnomefreak: upstream | 19:20 |
| * ddecator has been using it since the early days of Weave | 19:21 | |
| gnomefreak | fn == chromium please maek my day and say yes even if it is not true :( | 19:30 |
| gnomefreak | i know what fx and sm are fn im not sure | 19:30 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: fn? | 19:33 |
| ddecator | fennec? | 19:33 |
| * micahg was thinking the same thing | 19:34 | |
| gnomefreak | maybe | 19:36 |
| * gnomefreak didnt know fennec was a browser i thought it was a branch | 19:37 | |
| ddecator | it's firefox for mobiles :) | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | firefox_sync-1.3.1-fx+fn+sm.xpi | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | ah that it would be than | 19:37 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, fennec | 19:37 |
| ddecator | yah, fennec | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 19:37 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: fennec is in the archive, you can try it on the desktop if you like | 19:37 |
| ddecator | fennec has it built in (or it will, not sure if it's included already or not..) | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | ill spend another hour or so to get bookmarks in oreder than spend another 2 or so hours tomorrow | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | im assumiung its firefox on diet pills | 19:38 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, different experience | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 19:39 |
| ddecator | micahg: btw, if i understand right, a recent change upstream will have sb broken atm. i'm pulling the latest revision to figure out what needs to be done | 19:39 |
| gnomefreak | gives me more to play with | 19:39 |
| micahg | ddecator: k | 19:39 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: fyi, epiphany-gecko/hardy seems pretty solid, except for one regression which I just filed: bug #597816 | 20:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 597816 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu Hardy) (and 2 other projects) "epiphany-gecko when built with xul 1.9.2 can no longer handle certain mime-types (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597816 | 20:19 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I am adding a release note item for it, since there is a workaround (Save Link As) | 20:20 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: oh, actually, I forgot, there was one other: drag and drop of bookmarks does not work either | 20:21 |
| * jdstrand goes to file | 20:21 | |
| jdstrand | heh, well, that is not a regression | 20:25 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: so nm on the bookmarks one. the mime-types is a regression though | 20:26 |
| jdstrand | actually, I think may test is just bad for the bookmark thing. so double nm | 20:28 |
| jdstrand | :) | 20:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - thanks for testing | 20:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'm glad it mostly works :) | 20:30 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I don't consider it a blocker for the update since I can release note it with a workaround, but it should get SRU's | 20:33 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: it may be related to how it decides what external helper to use, since all the files that failed were ones that used an external helper (see the bug) | 20:34 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: yeah, it is *loads* better than the webkit version | 20:39 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: oh! xulrunner-1.9.2-gnome-support did not get installed | 20:50 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: after installing it, it worked fine | 20:50 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - ah, that might explain it :) | 20:50 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - i'll see what i can do to make sure that gets automatically installed during the upgrade | 20:50 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: thanks | 20:51 |
| chrisccoulson_ | epiphany should probably depend on it | 20:51 |
| micahg | +1 | 20:51 |
| jdstrand | wow, we might actually end up with a good version of epiphany-browser in hardy and jaunty | 20:51 |
| jdstrand | this is rather exciting :) | 20:51 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - ok, xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support used to be pulled in by firefox-gnome-support, which is seeded in ubuntu-desktop | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'll add a depends to epiphany to make sure the new version gets pulled in | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson_ | do you know if update-manager will install new recommends, or should i just make it a depends? | 20:56 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: this only seems an issue on hardy btw. let me double check | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it should be an issue on jaunty too, as there probably isn't anything pulling in the new gnome-support there either | 20:56 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I think hardy needs depends still... not sure. would be best to confirm | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'll just add a depends, it's unlikely that people will want epiphany without the gnome-support | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson_ | the only rationale for making gnome-support optional in firefox is so KDE users don't get half of gnome | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson_ | but that doesn't apply to epiphany | 20:57 |
| jdstrand | ok, confirmed that jaunty pulls in xul192-gnome-support | 21:00 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: ^ | 21:00 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: re depends> sounds reasonable | 21:00 |
| gnomefreak | didnt we produce a kde-support? | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson_ | gnomefreak, we're talking hardy here ;) | 21:01 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand, cool, that must have happened by accident in jaunty ;) | 21:01 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: or it is a recommands | 21:01 |
| gnomefreak | ok still not against backporting it if it is min. work | 21:01 |
| jdstrand | recommends | 21:01 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: requires GTK 2.14 at present :) I might fix it at some point this cycle, but there are some issues with it ATM | 21:02 |
| gnomefreak | kde(qt needs gtk? | 21:07 |
| gnomefreak | ) | 21:07 |
| gnomefreak | i think sync is done :) | 21:07 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: mozilla stuff needs gtk | 21:07 |
| gnomefreak | good point | 21:07 |
| gnomefreak | my power just flashed. am i still here? | 21:08 |
| micahg | !here | gnomefreak | 21:08 |
| ubot2 | gnomefreak: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | 21:08 |
| micahg | not what I expected :) | 21:08 |
| ddecator | :p | 21:08 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 21:08 |
| gnomefreak | am i able to tell sync when to sync or it will do it as it wants? | 21:09 |
| gnomefreak | found it | 21:09 |
| ddecator | it used to auto-sync, but now it doesn't login when you open the browser :( | 21:10 |
| gnomefreak | it does both | 21:10 |
| gnomefreak | it doesnt log in for you? | 21:10 |
| ddecator | not automatically when i launch FF, i have to tell it to login | 21:11 |
| gnomefreak | ah trying now f0or other browser | 21:12 |
| gnomefreak | oh i like download manager in 3.7 | 21:13 |
| gnomefreak | sorry meant addon manager | 21:15 |
| ddecator | i know right? | 21:15 |
| ddecator | i think download manager might be in a tab as well, not sure (i use download status bar) | 21:15 |
| gnomefreak | something funny == no nightly-testing-tool for daily 3.7 | 21:30 |
| ddecator | yah.. | 21:30 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: maybe they forgot to bump it for a6 | 21:30 |
| gnomefreak | point | 21:30 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: file a bug :) | 21:31 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: upstream | 21:31 |
| gnomefreak | with upstream against what? | 21:31 |
| gnomefreak | this wont sync with 3.7 either damnit | 21:32 |
| ddecator | what won't? | 21:33 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: idk, they have a site, but no contact info | 21:33 |
| gnomefreak | sync wont | 21:33 |
| ddecator | FF Sync? it was working fine for me, unless it broke (haven't opened another instance to see if it syncs in quite a while) | 21:34 |
| gnomefreak | it works in sm2 and ff3.6 but not 3.7 it tells me it got an error but never says what the error is | 21:34 |
| ddecator | when you try to login? | 21:34 |
| gnomefreak | ddecator: logged in fine but go to sync and it errors | 21:34 |
| micahg | jdstrand: so, do I need to make backport uploads for openjdk? | 21:35 |
| gnomefreak | little blue ! in right bottom | 21:35 |
| * ddecator tests | 21:35 | |
| ddecator | it's true :( | 21:35 |
| jdstrand | micahg: yes-- for karmic and jaunty, but you should use what is on its way to lucid-proposed | 21:35 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k, will do | 21:35 |
| gnomefreak | whats true? | 21:35 |
| gnomefreak | it failing? | 21:36 |
| ddecator | yup, i got the same error | 21:36 |
| jdstrand | micahg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=openjdk | 21:36 |
| gnomefreak | so that + NTT == not the extensions? | 21:36 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I'll try to get openjdk backports up tonight | 21:36 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I didn't look at your other upload, but please follow the procedure doko mentioned in the thread if you aren't already | 21:36 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I have trouble regenerating the control file | 21:37 |
| micahg | jdstrand: even in a chroot for another version | 21:37 |
| ddecator | micahg: if we have to add a config during a build, what's the preferred method for doing so? | 21:37 |
| ddecator | config file* | 21:38 |
| micahg | ddecator: we shouldn't have to :( | 21:38 |
| micahg | ddecator: patch file | 21:38 |
| ddecator | micahg: the sb devs made songbird.mk not check for environment variables so they have to be passed through a songbird.config file, unless i create a patch to undo their change :/ | 21:39 |
| micahg | ddecator: what env vars do we need? | 21:40 |
| jdstrand | micahg: unfortunately, I've no experience with that. if doko isn't online, kees might know | 21:40 |
| * micahg feels bad bothering doko | 21:40 | |
| ddecator | micahg: --disable-tests --disable-breakpad --with-extensions=systray (although it looks like tests and breakpad may be disabled by default, and there doesn't seem to be a "with-extensions" option: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Getting_Started/Core_Player_Development/Building_Songbird#Configure_Options) | 21:42 |
| micahg | ddecator: I'll have to look at this later | 21:43 |
| ddecator | micahg: k | 21:43 |
| ddecator | i have to figure out another build issue anyway | 21:43 |
| ddecator | MootBot: it's only the songbird.mk file in the main dir that has environment variables unchecked, right? | 21:44 |
| ddecator | dang, Mook_sb ^ | 21:45 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I wouldn't feel bad, you aren't asking him to do anything other than tell you how to build it on a new release | 21:45 |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: don't you already pass things to configure directly? | 21:45 |
| Mook_sb | and, yeah; all it actually did was pass them over to configure anyway, so... | 21:46 |
| jdstrand | micahg: you're gonna want to do it his way anyway, cause he will likely be providing future updates to the package for -security and -proposed | 21:46 |
| jdstrand | micahg: and you don't want to diverge from his method | 21:46 |
| Mook_sb | (the main difference for you is not having the debug target anymore; that's a configure flag too, so it shouldn't be hard...) | 21:46 |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: wait what? | 21:46 |
| jdstrand | micahg: anyway, kees *may* know, but he may not | 21:46 |
| Mook_sb | let me look at your rules file again, one sec | 21:46 |
| * ddecator may be misunderstanding what is considered an "environment variable" | 21:47 | |
| gnomefreak | ok im doing something wrong or something my FF bookmarks are not landing on sm | 21:47 |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: export FOO=bar | 21:47 |
| Mook_sb | oh, wow, you _already_ have a devious hack... :D | 21:49 |
| ddecator | do we? | 21:50 |
| Mook_sb | hmm, I think you want something like http://pastebin.mozilla.org/740142 but the diff view isn't behaving | 21:50 |
| Mook_sb | yes, you override SONGBIRDCONFIG_CONFIGURE_OPTIONS so songbird.config would have been ignored anyway :D | 21:51 |
| * Mook_sb wonders why it's cd $(SRC_DIR) ; $(MAKE) -f songbird.mk instead of $(MAKE) -C $(SRC_DIR) -f ... (given that -C is supported on weird makes like MS nmake...) | 21:52 | |
| ddecator | idk, i didn't write the rules file, i just edit it as needed :p | 21:52 |
| ddecator | so i don't need to make any changes? | 21:52 |
| Mook_sb | you do; see the pastebin and its parent | 21:53 |
| Mook_sb | (diff http://pastebin.mozilla.org/?dl=740140 and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/?dl=740142 somehow :p ) | 21:53 |
| ddecator | alright, let me check that a sec (i couldn't find what changes you made :p) | 21:54 |
| Mook_sb | yeah; I used pastebin because it had a diff facility... which promptly proceeded to fail to work! | 21:54 |
| ddecator | i just used a diff viewer. that's not much to change, so i'll give it a shot. thanks Mook_sb :) | 21:56 |
| Mook_sb | you're welcome; now, given that I haven't tested it... it might not work right the first few times ;) | 21:56 |
| Mook_sb | (doing this on a windows machine probably didn't help) | 21:56 |
| * Mook_sb eyes --enable-official warily | 21:57 | |
| ddecator | shouldn't it be --enable-nightly? | 21:58 |
| ddecator | what the, the datetime module was used in previous branches, why am i having trouble with it now.. | 22:02 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: what do you think about removing libsoup2.4-2.28? wasn't that only needed for webkit on hardy? | 22:04 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - yeah, that + webkit and libproxy on hardy | 22:04 |
| jdstrand | oh and libproxy | 22:04 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i forgot about those when i cleaned the PPA earlier | 22:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I can remove them | 22:04 |
| chrisccoulson_ | thanks | 22:05 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand, did i drop epiphany-extensions too? | 22:05 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: you did | 22:05 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ok, that's good then | 22:05 |
| ddecator | oh, it's trying to use python2.4 | 22:07 |
| gnomefreak | ddecator: sb? | 22:07 |
| micahg | ddecator: that would be bad then :) | 22:08 |
| ddecator | gnomefreak: yes | 22:08 |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: I don't know, I just ported the previous SONGBIRD_OFFICIAL=1 environment variable over | 22:08 |
| gnomefreak | +1 micahg | 22:08 |
| ddecator | micahg: yah, no idea why it's doing that all of a sudden | 22:08 |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: oh, that's true. we'll see how it does once i can figure this out | 22:08 |
| gnomefreak | 2.6 is uptodate version? | 22:09 |
| ddecator | gnomefreak: 2.6.5 | 22:09 |
| gnomefreak | 2.6* should support 2.4 still so couldnt we just bump the depends on it | 22:11 |
| gnomefreak | depends/config/ect... | 22:11 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: not always, there were some deprecated things | 22:12 |
| gnomefreak | well its not likley songbird devs will fix this on thier own, 2.4 was a year or so ago before the bump to 2.5 | 22:13 |
| ddecator | the weird part is, the beginning of the py script has a shebang for /usr/bin/python so i'm not sure why it's trying to use /usr/bin/python2.4 | 22:13 |
| gnomefreak | check what files its getting info from (script should be pulling in/reading other files) one of those files are using 2.4. i can imaging the /usr/bin/python is a cross platform script and that the smaller files determine what to use | 22:16 |
| gnomefreak | and yes spelling is worse now hat it is dinner time | 22:16 |
| ddecator | and client.mk file sets PYTHON as python, which is what is called later in the script.. | 22:18 |
| gnomefreak | thier should be a simple(not so gracful) hack to make it work, but my Python is worse than my bash | 22:18 |
| ddecator | althought...what does ?= mean? | 22:19 |
| ddecator | although* | 22:19 |
| gnomefreak | not sure, that is a good question. i dont have my dive into python book handy | 22:20 |
| Mook_sb | it's like a default - assign only if it's currently empty | 22:20 |
| Mook_sb | (assuming you mean make, not python) | 22:20 |
| ddecator | PYTHON ?= python | 22:21 |
| ddecator | although it's the same in the 1.7 branch.. | 22:21 |
| ddecator | huh, it got set in autoconf.mk | 22:26 |
| Mook_sb | ... why would you have autoconf.mk before you managed to run configure? or am I just being confused? | 22:28 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: should useragentswitcher/karmic and venkman/karmic also be removed? I have them in my list as SRU. | 22:29 |
| ddecator | idk, i'm confused too. according to grep, in mozilla/compiled/xulrunner-release/config/autoconf.mk PYTHON =/usr/bin/python2.4 (also mentioned in a few other areas) | 22:30 |
| gnomefreak | nevermind that was vim.... | 22:30 |
| gnomefreak | jdstrand: it doesnt look like i have either in Maverick | 22:31 |
| jdstrand | gnomefreak: sorry, this is for the ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa | 22:32 |
| gnomefreak | jdstrand: ah | 22:32 |
| ddecator | ah! | 22:44 |
| ddecator | it's not looking for python2.6 | 22:45 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - yeah, those are for SRU. i wasn't sure if we wanted to keep those in the PPA or not (i just thought it might make it less likely we end up publishing those packages through -security) | 22:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: they can stay if you want. I've updated my lists accordingly, so I'm fine | 22:45 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - could you try the en_GB langpack on jaunty and tell me if yelp still looks ok? | 23:05 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it's seriously messed up here, but it look ok if I run it with LC_ALL=C | 23:05 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: k | 23:05 |
| ddecator | bah, something is going wrong with the config autoconf2.13 is creating, but i can't figure out the cause... | 23:16 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: it looks fine here. I am up to date with all the new stuff from jaunty, plus language-pack-en_9.04+20100531_all.deb and language-pack-en-base_9.04+20100531_all.deb | 23:23 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: locale tells me I am en_GB.UTF-8 for everything | 23:23 |
| jdstrand | s/from jaunty/from ppa for jaunty/ | 23:24 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - hmmm, strange | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it's working here now too (although i've just patched it to use xul1.9) | 23:25 |
| jdstrand | oh wait | 23:26 |
| jdstrand | nm | 23:27 |
| jdstrand | for a second I thought there was an updated yelp for jaunty and didn't have it | 23:27 |
| jdstrand | (there isn't) | 23:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it fails to properly start with xul 1.9.2, but i was seeing messed up translations in the GTK widgets, like the menu bar | 23:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | but it's gone now :-/ | 23:27 |
| jdstrand | ii xulrunner-1.9.2 1.9.2.4+build7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.2 | 23:28 |
| jdstrand | it works here | 23:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | hmmm, strange. it doesn't start fully here :/ | 23:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand - is it actually loading the 1.9.2 gre on your machine? (cat /proc/`pidof yelp`/maps | grep xul) | 23:29 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: no. all 1.9.0.19 | 23:29 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: this is i386 | 23:29 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: I've got an appt atm. I can follow up later | 23:29 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ah, that's why it still works. although, i'm not sure why it loads 1.9.2 on my system but 1.9.0.19 on yours | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it fails badly if it uses 1.9.2 ;) | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | so i will just patch it to not do that | 23:30 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson_: here is my installed xul stuff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454162/ | 23:31 |
| * jdstrand really gotta go | 23:31 | |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: hmm, songbird shouldn't be using autoconf2.13? (mozilla/xr does, though) | 23:32 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: can we use system xul yet for songbird or does that still need to be done? | 23:33 |
| Mook_sb | micahg: not yet :( | 23:34 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: k, so we're build the xul part from source then | 23:34 |
| Mook_sb | yeah | 23:34 |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: right, this issue is in xr building. i'm trying a patch right now. do you guys still plan to eventually use an unpatched xr? that'd be amazing :) | 23:35 |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: I still hope for it, at least? ;) | 23:35 |
| Mook_sb | it sort of depends on things like having time to work on it and getting upstream to like the patches, though | 23:36 |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: better than nothing. it'd save a LOT of time and reduce the size of songbird a lot | 23:36 |
| ddecator | at least you guys are using xr192 now | 23:36 |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: and it would make me happier as well! | 23:36 |
| micahg | ddecator: you can see if we have any build related patches for xul192 | 23:36 |
| ddecator | micahg: i will if this one doesn't work | 23:37 |
| ddecator | micahg: but it looks like it did :) | 23:37 |
| micahg | ddecator: k | 23:37 |
| ddecator | i just had to tell it to look for python2.6 instead of python2.5 | 23:37 |
| ddecator | now to see if it will build or not.. | 23:37 |
| * ddecator can't believe he looked for several hours to find that the issue was changing one line of one script -_- | 23:38 | |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: we'll see if your changes to the rules file work :p | 23:39 |
| ddecator | micahg: although it's odd, i was able to build sb before and it was using xr192 so i wonder if something changed in xr since then. is xr192 building alright still? | 23:40 |
| micahg | Mook_sb: do you guys pull the default for xul192 or a specific branch? | 23:40 |
| Mook_sb | hmm, I'm not sure what we're pulling, but whatever it was it appears to be 5 months old | 23:43 |
| Mook_sb | might have been the 3.6.0 release | 23:44 |
| micahg | yeah, probably | 23:44 |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: if the changes to the rules file work, is it ok if i commit them to our branch? it's your work so i want to make sure :p | 23:50 |
| Mook_sb | ddecator: no, I need to sign that agreement... yeah right :p go ahead. | 23:50 |
| ddecator | Mook_sb: that's what i thought :p | 23:51 |
| micahg | ddecator: you can give him credit for the patch in the header | 23:52 |
| ddecator | micahg: are there examples in the FF logs? i can look those up and follow the format then | 23:52 |
| micahg | ddecator: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ | 23:52 |
| micahg | ddecator: you can add a changelog entry for it as well | 23:53 |
| ddecator | micahg: thanks :) | 23:55 |
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