[00:07] <Kniggedigge> hi folks, i've got a problem with a RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02) does anyone know about that realtek chip problem ?
[00:08] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: I don't, but a quick google shows several posts on the Ubuntu forums and a few bugs in Launchpad
[00:08] <jiboumans_> any of those apply to you?
[00:10] <Kniggedigge> yes i think, after a normal reboot my network was down, also when booting from a ubuntu live cd but when booting from a suse live cd the network was up again, so i think i've got the problem with that chip.... do you think there's a go around instead of compiling the drivers by my own ? jiboumans_ ?
[00:10] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:11] <Kniggedigge> 10.4 kernel version: 2.6.32-22-server
[00:12] <Kniggedigge> i mean 10.4 server respectively
[00:12] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: this may apply to you: http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1436322&page=3
[00:12] <jiboumans_> there's a few solutions linked from there
[00:13] <jiboumans_> if not, i'm afraid google's your best resource right now; if you do have a confirmed bug though, please post a bug in Launchpad so we can fix it
[00:14] <Kniggedigge> ok ill check that jiboumans_  but i think thats a bug for more than 3 years, so i'll see what i can do there...
[00:14] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: at the very least, hit the 'affects me too' button
[00:15] <Kniggedigge> because when the kernel is using a false module, that does not work with the chipset, its a problem that could be "repaired" ?jiboumans_
[00:16] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: i'd assume so
[00:16] <Kniggedigge> ok thanks very much for you help jiboumans_ ;)
[00:16] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: you're welcome, and good luck
[00:16] <Kniggedigge> thanks bye bye ;)
[00:18]  * RoAkSoAx wants to kill mysql in lucid
[00:24] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: what's it doing to you?
[00:24] <jiboumans_> zul will probably want to hear about it
[00:26] <jeremyn> sorry for the totally off-topic question, but is anyone else have problems looking at discussions on slashdot? specifically, the discussion2 bar where you control how many comments to view has disappeared. i've checked multiple computers and browsers, it's gone on all of them.
[00:26] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: trying to install a DRBD Cluster with MySQL replicated and it refuses to install in the way " mysql_install_db --datadir=/var/lib/mysql1"
[00:27] <jiboumans_> that's odd.. drbd should be transparent for mysql, no?
[00:28] <andreserl> jiboumans, it is the! The problem is actually with MySQL, which is not created the test database in the specified datadir
[00:29] <jiboumans_> so what hapepns when you turn off drbd?
[00:29]  * jiboumans_ assumes permission issues
[00:29]  * RoAkSoAx gets confused when having two different irc sessions lol
[00:29] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: same issue
[00:30] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: and different data dir works as expected? /tmp/mysql
[00:30] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: nope. It has the same issue so it is something with MySQL for sure
[00:31] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: ok, that's just bizar
[00:31] <jiboumans_> what error does it spit out?
[00:32] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: 100622 19:30:30 [Warning] Can't create test file /mnt/prueba/alice.lower-test
[00:32] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: seems to be a known error. will try the fix given at MySQL's website
[00:32] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: let me know what it is, i'm curious now
[00:35] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: seems that it's apparmor issue!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=782224
[00:35] <jiboumans_> hmm, we should be more elegant with that
[00:36] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: indeed it is
[00:36] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: at the very least, the error should say something about 'not allowed because of apparmor settings in $file' or something
[00:36] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: LP bug it :)
[00:36] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx: bonus points for a patch
[00:37] <jiboumans_> Putting the mysql profile in complain mode using "sudo aa-complain"
[00:37] <jiboumans_> ^ seems to be the suggestion
[00:38] <RoAkSoAx> jiboumans_: Will do file the bug! :)
[00:38] <jiboumans_> RoAkSoAx++
[00:39] <Kniggedigge> jiboumans:  you like to know how i resolved the problem ? :D
[00:40] <Kniggedigge> jiboumans_  i meant sry
[00:40] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: i'm curious
[00:41] <Kniggedigge> i just shutdown unplugged the power cable and the lan cable waited 15 seconds, booted and plugged in the lan cable...
[00:41] <Kniggedigge> it should be a problem with a thing called NIC, i dont know what it is, but now it works.... :)
[00:42] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: that's odd.. makes it me think it's a timing issue
[00:42] <jiboumans_> Kniggedigge: well, at least it's resolved for you :)
[00:42] <Kniggedigge> yes and i hope it will never come back again because it was very very nerve recking...
[00:43]  * jiboumans_ has to move rooms, back later
[00:52] <panfist> i'm trying to get the package monit up and running. i have it configured to use its own web server and listen on 2812, and this is verified by netstat -l|grep 2812 says it's listening
[01:16] <Psi-Jack> I have a stuck upstart job that's stop/killed, process 1511, but I can't start it successfully. I try to start it, and it just sits, idle, till I break out of it, then it's start/killed, process 1511.
[04:42] <HermanDE-1> Anybody have any good ideas for running a system wide sieve filter on an Exim+Cyrus system?
[06:48] <panfist> i'm tryin to get request-tracker3.8 running and having trouble at the apache2 config...no matter what i try i can't get http://localhost/rt to work
[08:02] <willemb> Greetings.  I have just set up 2 servers to try out the uec thing.  Is it possible to convert existing kvm images to xen images to fire up in my 'cloud' ?
[08:08] <jo-erlend_> I don't know much about it, but I think you'd only need to install a xen kernel in the guest in order for it to run well in normal xen. But what does xen have to do with this? I thought UEC was based on KVM?
[08:18] <f01kert> hello all :)
[08:19] <f01kert> can anyone help me to get my lucid lynx system to create /proc/driver/cciss/*
[08:19] <f01kert> ^_^
[08:19] <f01kert> uvirtbot: o_O
[08:19] <f01kert> :D
[08:20] <sabgenton> hey everybody
[08:20] <sabgenton> the installation instructions to install  lucid to usb  found here
[08:20] <sabgenton> http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download
[08:20] <sabgenton> show how to install ubuntu desktop
[08:23] <sabgenton> karmic server never worked this way as it is not a live cd ISO  it is like the old fashioned linux install CD's
[08:23] <sabgenton> Is lucid now a live cd style ISO?
[08:34] <f01kert> sabgenton: sorry no idea :)
[08:35] <f01kert> didn't look like a live style iso when i booted it...
[08:35] <sabgenton> hmm rater disconserting
[08:36] <sabgenton> maybe there is a dev chanel I could take this up with
[08:36] <f01kert> should be :)
[08:37] <willemb> jo-erlend_: I thought it was xen ...
[08:37] <sbeattie> sabgenton: no, the server and alternate images are not live cds; is there a reason why you'd think it would be useful?
[08:38] <sabgenton> I want to install lucid from usb
[08:39] <sabgenton> sbeattie: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download  show u how but it has a deskop ubuntu tutorial
[08:39] <sabgenton> this never worked on karmic
[08:39] <willemb> jo-erlend_: Far as I could find out, it is all based on Eucalyptus, and the docs on their ewb page is definately all xen based
[08:39] <sabgenton> I want to know if it luicd server truly works from usb
[08:40] <sabgenton> the usb instuctions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download looks like a bug to me
[08:47] <sbeattie> sabgenton: hrm, so it does. Can you file a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content
[08:48] <sabgenton> ok
[08:50] <sabgenton> sbeattie: do you recon there's been anyturn around and ubuntu server works on usb     just with bad  instructons or the web site simply has the desktop tutorial  and there is no usbsuport
[08:50] <sabgenton> ?
[08:50] <sabgenton> I'm betting on the latter
[08:56] <sabgenton> sbeattie: It would be nice to submit the bug http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download shows lucid server has usb suport
[08:56] <sbeattie> define support: does it work out of usb-creator? dunno, you'd need to try. But https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html describes how tomake it work manually.
[08:56] <sabgenton> but I 'm not entirely shure that it doesn't
[08:56] <sabgenton> just mostly confident
[08:58] <sabgenton> the usb-creator tool and the windows based tools describe after clicking the right things at http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download
[08:58] <sabgenton> did work on server in the past
[08:58] <sabgenton> I did find  an alternative method  but  that is not what  http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download is talking about
[08:59] <sabgenton> I  belive the problem is most  usb installer  creators  rely on a  live cd image with server  isn't
[09:00] <sabgenton> bug http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download shows invalid usb suport for lucid server
[09:01] <sabgenton> sbeattie: is what i meant
[09:01] <f01kert> fixing that should help PXE installs as well hopefully :)
[09:01] <sabgenton> but I don't know if it is turly invalid
[09:02] <sabgenton> it is definitely misleading as is show the desktop ISO in the tutoral
[09:04] <sabgenton> for people who have been waiting for  server USB suport  that is going to look  like a stuff / typo more than a just out solution
[09:16] <f01kert> sbeattie: how would i go about making my P212 SAS controller work in lucid lynx?
[09:16] <f01kert> ie where do i go to rtfm? :D
[10:07] <sabgenton> sbeattie: should I make my bug unprivate?
[10:07] <sabgenton> sorry bug nooby
[10:08]  * sabgenton ask question to all listening as well
[10:20] <permalac_> hello
[10:21] <permalac_> i'm trying to download the netboot package. I have a pxe server and I can find the kernel to install it through my unattended installer. any help?
[10:32] <huats> morning
[10:44] <ttx> huats: o/
[10:53] <huats> hello ttx
[11:33] <johno> hi hi
[11:33] <f01kert> hi
[11:33] <johno> Hi f0lkert
[11:34] <johno> was wondering if anyone knew of a solution for high avaiability and redundancy apart from pacemaker/HA?
[11:34] <johno> or is that the bread and butter/best solution out there for server redundanc
[11:34] <johno> *redundancy?
[11:39] <johno> I am currently looking at the following solutions
[11:39] <johno> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting
[11:41] <incorrect> upgrading from karmic to lucid has left autofs in a broken state, i can't see how to get some debug info out of it
[11:42] <incorrect> duh
[11:42] <incorrect> i figure it out the second after i hit enter
[13:02] <kaushal> hi
[13:02] <kaushal> is setfacl not supported on ext4 ?
[13:03] <kaushal> I mean acl
[13:03] <kaushal> I get operation not permitted
[13:03] <kaushal> I did setfacl -o remount,acl /
[13:05] <kaushal> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,acl)
[13:09] <Daviey> ttx: I'm throwing my hat in on GWT for the moment :(.. Conmpsoing an email
[13:26] <zul> morning
[13:26] <Daviey> 13:26:36 < zul> morning
[13:26] <Daviey> ^^ FAIL :)
[13:27] <zul> Daviey: chuck@kenny:~/work/server/mysql/mysql-dfsg-5.1-5.1.41$ date
[13:27] <zul> Wed Jun 23 08:27:09 EDT 2010
[13:27] <zul> ^^^ WIN :)
[13:28] <Daviey> heh
[13:28]  * Daviey suggests the whole world moves to UTC.
[13:36] <sommer> morning all
[13:39] <zul> Daviey: then my biological clock would be off
[14:05] <xperia> hello. simple question is a command in rc.local executed as root or as user ?
[14:31] <soren> xperia: root
[14:52] <ccheney> Daviey, emailed you the script as it was very simple wasn't sure if it would be worth sticking in a branch
[14:58] <Daviey> ccheney: rc'd thanks
[15:03] <xperia> soren: thanks !
[15:52] <ccheney> ok this is annoying my stupid cloud doesn't respond to commands now
[15:54] <zul> ttx: irqbalance is fixed
[15:57] <ttx> zul: ack
[16:40] <elb0w> How can I mount another linux server as a network place on ubuntu
[16:40] <delimiter> anyone here have display problems in the debian installer when running over IPMI
[16:40] <elb0w> last time I did it, I think there was some fish protocol or something?
[16:51] <mangerDuchien> Hi all
[16:53] <delimiter> elb0w do you mean CIFS?
[16:54] <elb0w> delimiter I dunno
[16:54] <elb0w> I have lucid servers
[16:54] <elb0w> and the 10.4 lucid client
[16:55] <elb0w> I want to mount the lucid servers, on my lucid client
[16:55] <elb0w> so that I can just double click the drive to see the files
[16:55] <elb0w> like maping a drive
[16:55] <elb0w> in windows
[16:55] <delimiter> you probably want to setup NFS exports on the server
[16:56] <xperia> elbow: i am using sshfs and it works great
[16:56] <mangerDuchien> I am trying to use Ubuntu EC on Karmic, I successfully  setup my environnement with VM_MODE=MANAGED, but with STATIC mode, I am not able to connect over SSH to my VM. Is anyone know why ?
[16:59] <xperia> hello. anybody here how can help me a little with a strange disk space problem ? have running ubuntu on a proliant 530ML Server witha raid array. have now added new disk to this array. now if i boot into ubunut i still got the old array and not the new array with the bigger size. do i need to sxpand the files system ?
[17:01] <xperia> oops had a disconnect
[17:02] <johno> you need to use the smart cd
[17:03] <johno> and reconfigure the arrey to include the hard disk you have added
[17:04] <johno> anyone here good with ubuntu cloud systems?
[17:04] <johno> was hoping to bounce a few idea's around to get around the flaws of the ebs system
[17:04] <johno> (EBS)
[17:04] <xperia> johno: thanks a lot. have used the smart cd and added this new disks to the existing array
[17:05] <johno> have you changed the boot order?
[17:05] <xperia> the disk blinked also about 1 hour all the time all
[17:05] <xperia> the status message was allways "transformation"
[17:05] <resno> is it possible to send an email without an domain address?
[17:06] <johno> resno - yes, but it would not go any where
[17:06] <SpamapS> resno: sure, it just won't be sent on the internet unless the user has forwarded it
[17:06] <xperia> johno why changing the boot order. i have used a existing array to expand
[17:06] <johno> resno - since the domain address is the mechanism to search for an external addres
[17:06] <johno> ahh
[17:07] <resno> ok, i have server with a domain name, but its another system, is it "hard" to confire my local machine to use it?
[17:07] <xperia> i need somehow to get the new added disk space in ubuntu.
[17:07] <johno> xperia - let me understand what your doing. you have added a hard disk. to a hp server. restarted it and used the smart CD to add it to the array
[17:07] <xperia> right have done this exactly this way
[17:07] <johno> xperia - your using ubuntu bit ot does not see that the hard disk has grown?
[17:07] <johno> I see
[17:07] <johno> one sec
[17:08] <xperia> yes have the same size
[17:08] <xperia> probably need to format the new space or better to exapnd the file system for the new disk space
[17:09] <xperia> in the bios settings all new added disk exist in the array. becouse of that i think it depend now on ubuntu
[17:14] <xperia> johno: tryed to get the new disk size with "fdisk -l" but for my raid array "/dev/cciss/c0d0p1" this command dont work.
[17:14] <xperia> the command "df" give me the same results like before i have added the new disks.
[17:14] <xperia> need a command that tell me how big "/dev/cciss/c0d0p1" at the moment is and probably a command to expand the existing ext4 filesystem on that array
[17:15] <johno> hehe
[17:15] <johno> sorry not able to help you
[17:15] <xperia> ohhhhh that is bad
[17:15] <johno> well, with me level of knowlege anyway
[17:16] <xperia> okay thanks :-)
[18:16] <SpamapS>  
[18:16] <SpamapS> smoser: ping?
[18:16] <smoser> here
[18:16] <smoser> or...
[18:16] <smoser> here ?
[18:17] <SpamapS> smoser: I'm going to start on the 'run a command then optionally die' part today..
[18:17] <smoser> good deal.
[18:17] <SpamapS> smoser: just want to make sure everything is working fundamentally (ignoring nit picks) before I do that.
[18:18] <smoser> can you shoot to come to a stopping point by end of day today, and then let me know ? and we'll pick it up and get it into cloud-utils.
[18:18] <smoser> i can give a quick test right now.
[18:18] <ruben23> any good monitoring apps for ubuntu-servers..
[18:18] <SpamapS> smoser: hang on I'll do one mor epush
[18:19] <smoser> k
[18:22] <SpamapS> pushed
[18:23] <zul> ruben23: yes nagios munin.
[18:23] <ruben23>  zul: which one you used..?
[18:24] <zul> ruben23: both and i like both
[18:24] <smoser> SpamapS, one thing i know you'r emissing
[18:24] <smoser> --launchpad-id
[18:25] <ruben23> zul:im installing munin, but my localhost seems dont worked i can make it display on my web the local hostname i have on my server.
[18:26] <zul> ruben23: check your config then
[18:26] <ruben23> what particular config
[18:32] <SpamapS> smoser: ahh :)
[18:32] <smoser> SpamapS, http://pastebin.com/HTFrN87J
[18:32] <smoser> also, that
[18:34] <smoser> er...: http://pastebin.com/QPWCMssS is better
[18:39] <smoser> SpamapS, also, i think, just from using it right now that we should "know" of --key
[18:40] <resno> how much ram do you need to run 2 virtual machines?
[18:42] <SpamapS> smoser: --key meaning the -k argument to -run-instances ?
[18:46] <zul> bbiab...earthquake
[18:52] <MTecknology> !info nginx
[18:56] <SpamapS> smoser: I'm not really sure how to duplicate this:
[18:56] <SpamapS>     args.insert(0, "#cloud-config\nruncmd:\n - sudo -Hu ubuntu ssh-import-lp-id %s" % lp_ids)
[19:00] <zul> that looks ugly :)
[19:03] <SpamapS> smoser: ah I missed the next line
[19:04] <SpamapS>     args.insert(0, "-d")
[19:04] <SpamapS> weird.. its all backwards 'n stuff
[19:17] <Kaffien> So i made a fancy raid50 array,  ubuntu recognized it and i told it to use the entire thing.  the array formatted just fine, ubuntu-server installed without any errors.  when i rebooted after installing grub i get a  'out of disk' error
[19:17] <hggdh> ccheney: you there?
[19:19] <hggdh> Daviey: ping
[19:19] <ccheney> hggdh, yea but at lunch, didn't start my break until late today was working with tgardner on kernel issue
[19:19] <ccheney> hggdh, whats up?
[19:20] <hggdh> ccheney: I just got hit by the allocate/delete volumes bug... how did you remove/cleanup? I am trying, but lvremove states the LV is in use, so no deal
[19:21] <hggdh> ccheney: or you can eat your lunch in peace, and we will check on this later on :-)
[19:25] <Daviey> hggdh: \o
[19:26] <hggdh> Daviey: would you mind packaging the Latest & Greatest fix for Euca?
[19:26] <Daviey> hggdh: Which one?
[19:27] <hggdh> Daviey: lp:~chris-grze/+junk/1.6.2-fixes 1233: decker 2010-06-23 [merge] fix
[19:27] <hggdh> mishandling of inflight addr msgs, npe, and state check before restore
[19:27] <Daviey> hggdh: ok, will ping when it's published
[19:28] <hggdh> Daviey: IOU (as it is getting to be the norm)
[19:28] <SpamapS> smoser: ok I think I understand the lp id thing
[19:28] <Daviey> hggdh: heh.. i'm sure the favour will be returned :)
[19:28] <Daviey> hggdh: certain, even :)
[19:29] <hggdh> Daviey: indeed
[19:29] <SpamapS> smoser: there's a work item to "attach an elastic IP to the machine" ... isn't that just passing --addressing "something" ?
[19:41] <hallyn> is there anyone here he would be able to sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/lucid/qemu-kvm/memleak-fix  for lucid-proposed for bugs 588293 and 591610 ?
[19:41] <ccheney> hggdh, sorry for the delay as soon as i responded earlier someone came to the door for me and couldn't get back upstairs until now
[19:41] <ccheney> hggdh, you have to manually clean up the mess, do lvremove, vgremove, pvremove, losetup -d, etc
[19:41] <SpamapS> smoser: --launchpad-id is passed now, but I don't know if it works at all.
[19:42] <hggdh> ccheney: yes. But lvremove is flatly refusing to remove them, even with --force
[19:42] <ccheney> hmm maybe have to reboot in that case
[19:42] <hggdh> ccheney: it states the LV is open... and --force should work to delete them
[19:43] <hggdh> ccheney: that's what I was afraid, so the check with you. Thanks ;-)
[19:43]  * hggdh goes to to prepare a reboot
[19:43] <ccheney> hggdh, unless it shows up as mounted, i think you would have to reboot
[19:44] <Daviey> hggdh: If you get your boxes ready, when LP has finished building it.. should be ready to rock.. Ensure you test version eucalyptus_1.6.2-0ubuntu30.3.3
[19:46] <hggdh> ccheney: they do *not* show as mounted :-(
[19:46] <hggdh> Daviey: thank you, sir
[19:47] <Daviey> hggdh: Regarding your mem leak branch.. You need to set the release pocket as lucid-proposed.. and personally.. the changelog doesn't fill me with confidence. :)
[19:47] <ccheney> hggdh, ok, then probably reboot :-\
[19:47] <hggdh> Daviey: er, did you mean hallyn?
[19:48] <Daviey> yes, sorry - hallyn ^^
[19:48] <ccheney> i sent tgardner the script to test 588861 since he was having trouble building kernels my system would boot
[19:48] <Daviey> E-TOO-MANY_H's
[19:48] <hggdh> LOL
[19:56] <hallyn> Daviey: i dunno, 'Here is another patch which <name> says fixes the problem' didn't seem so shaky to me.  but sod it, i'll hand-build a package to put in my ppa and ask for confirmation with that.  thanks.
[19:57] <hallyn> (I assume you were saying you want more confirmation before merging into lucid-proposed)
[20:04] <kirkland> jjohansen: ping
[20:04] <kirkland> jjohansen: ttx and i are trying to get a handle on this kernel bug affecting eucalyptus in maverick
[20:04] <kirkland> jjohansen: we're trying to plan our alpha2 testing, and that plan very much depends on whether or not this bug is solved
[20:05] <kirkland> jjohansen: if it's not going to be, then we need to start making a backup plan
[20:05] <ttx> kirkland: reading backlog, ccheney escalated to Tim already
[20:05] <kirkland> ttx: ah, okay
[20:05] <ttx> -20min from now
[20:05] <kirkland> ttx: yeah, i brought it up to tim last week, so it's not the first he's seen of it
[20:05] <ccheney> ttx, well i escalated it about 1.5hr ago
[20:06] <ttx> ccheney: great!
[20:06] <evident> hello everybody! I have a brand new vroot server and as a first task I changed my shell to zshell using "chsh" where i entered "/bin/zsh" as a new shell. After I logged out then and tried to reconnect as root (via ssh), it refuses the connection and says "Permission denied"... Did I forget anything so I can't get into my server via ssh anymore?
[20:06] <ccheney> 12:28pm CDT :)
[20:06]  * ttx goes back to his evening :)
[20:06] <ccheney> kirkland, i worked with tgardner and couldn't get his kernels to even boot on my box so he had me send the info on how to install enough of UEC and the script to try to replicate the issue himself
[20:06] <hallyn> evident: /etc/shells?
[20:07] <hallyn> (just a thought)
[20:07] <ccheney> kirkland, the 12:28pm time was when i sent the script, etc to him after testing the two kernels he sent me that wouldn't boot
[20:07] <evident> what about it? can I do anything now to get in again?
[20:07] <hallyn> evident: nm, just installed zsh, and it does show up in /etc/shells
[20:08] <hggdh> ccheney: interesting. I had 319 loop devices, 267 vgs, and 266 lvs. After reboot, I have *none*
[20:08] <ccheney> thats surprising, usually it sets the back up even when they disappear from euca2ools
[20:08] <evident> well I can't check it because I am not getting in
[20:08] <ccheney> s/the/them/
[20:09] <ccheney> hggdh, hopefully we aren't seeing a kernel bug now too
[20:09] <hggdh> ccheney: yes indeed. This is most surprising, and sounds more like a problem on kernel
[20:09] <ccheney> i don't know enough about lvm to know how a lv could get locked open when not mounted
[20:09] <hggdh> heh. ccheney, you preempted me
[20:09] <hallyn> evident: you don't have any non-root accounts without zsh as shell?
[20:10] <evident> no not yet because the server was just set up
[20:11] <hallyn> evident: really i think it has nothing to do with zsh, rather you don't allow root ssh logins
[20:12] <hallyn> evident: what is a 'vroot' server?
[20:12] <evident> well but how? I just got this brand new set up server now and all I did was apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and chsh to /bin/zsh
[20:13] <evident> virtual root server? not a real own server but several virtual ones in one...
[20:13] <evident> i didn't change any ssh settings and I got in just before doing these commands
[20:14] <hallyn> and the only account you were given was root?
[20:14] <evident> yes because everything else I am supposed to do on my own (other users and so on)
[20:14] <evident> well I can have the server get resetted, but still am looking for another way to get in
[20:15] <hallyn> you don't have any control over boot args or anything, no remote console to do single user boot?
[20:16] <evident> wait there was some way but I'll need to check
[20:17] <hallyn> at which point are you getting the -EPERM?  I wonder whether you could just 'ssh host chsh'...
[20:20] <evident> % ssh root@tinytall.de chsh
[20:20] <evident> root@tinytall.de's password:
[20:20] <evident> Permission denied, please try again.
[20:22] <evident> I can't find any other way to get access to the server... any idea? Or do I need to have them reset it?
[20:22] <guntbert> evident: did you configure login with ssh keys only?
[20:24] <hallyn> evident: sorry, no other ideas offhand
[20:24] <evident> i didn't configure anything... this is how I got the server from strato...
[20:24] <evident> all i did was apt-get update, upgrade and chsh
[20:24] <guntbert> evident: it was only a thought
[20:25] <evident> :D
[20:25] <evident> and I am thankful for any help... it's just a little bit frustrating^^
[20:25] <evident> so you'd say I should have them reset it?
[20:26] <jjohansen> kirkland: right, I asked tim or andy to look at it if they had time before me, and tim has picked it up
[20:26] <hallyn> evident: i think so.  and i'm really curious what happened...  i see no apparmor ssh restrictions, no reason anything would have changed
[20:27] <hallyn> unless your apt-get upgrade overwrote your /etc/securetty or ssh config to disallow root logins...
[20:32] <resno> whats the virtual machine app is easiest to install and maintain? i dont have the extenions for kvm.
[20:36] <ruben23> hi i have directory /va/spool/monitor/ on my 1st HDD now i added 2nd HDD and i want to used part of my 2nd HDD to that directory since its getting full, how do i do it
[20:36] <ruben23> any ideas
[20:37] <pmatulis> ruben23: are you using LVM?
[20:37] <ruben23> no
[20:37] <pmatulis> oh well
[20:37] <ruben23> im not using LVM on the first HDD
[20:38] <pmatulis> now you know the benefits of LVM!
[20:38] <ruben23> what are my options..?
[20:38] <ruben23> yeah
[20:38] <ruben23> but are there any ways i can still get the goal
[20:39] <pmatulis> maybe move a directory from HD1 to HD2 and then symlink?
[20:39] <ruben23> or can i have that directory put to my second HDD..?
[20:39] <pmatulis> well sure, you can put the whole thing there
[20:40] <ruben23> but how..? ill create the same directory..on the second HDD..? right..? and symlink..
[20:41] <pmatulis> make a partition and mount it on /mnt/tmp, move the files to there, unmount, then mount as /var/spool/monitor
[20:41] <ruben23> but the 2nd HDD is new how do i set it to be detected first and be used by the machine
[20:41] <guntbert> ruben23: symlinks don't work across file systems
[20:41] <hallyn> how do i get 'bzr bd -S' to do the equivalent of the '-sa' part in 'debuild -S -sa' ?
[20:41] <guntbert> ruben23: forget what I said - it was nonsense
[20:42] <ruben23> pmatulis: you talking to the second HDD right..?
[20:42] <pmatulis> ruben23: yes
[20:42] <ruben23> so i create partion and LVM..
[20:43] <pmatulis> no, LVM is out of the picture now
[20:43] <ruben23> ow ok
[20:43] <ruben23> so i just create partion and mount it
[20:43] <ruben23> where sholud i mount it
[20:43] <pmatulis> if you had LVM then you could add the new hd as a physical volume to the existing volume group and then extend your logical volume
[20:44] <hallyn> ah there we go, 'bzr bd -S -- -sa'
[20:44] <ruben23> yeah the thing here that /var/spool/monitor have so many files..
[20:45] <pmatulis> ruben23: obviously you need to ensure no writing to that directory during the operation
[20:46] <ruben23> do i really ned to copy..?
[20:47] <ruben23> the /var/spool/monitor  on 1st HDD on the second HDD with same directory..?
[20:47] <qman__> yes, otherwise you'd lose all the files
[20:47] <pmatulis> ruben23: re-read my comment
[20:48] <evident> ok I have the server reset now... and installed zsh with apt-get
[20:49] <evident> the /etc/shells file now has /bin/zsh and /usr/bin/zsh in it... which one do I choose now with chsh?
[20:49] <ruben23> pmatulis: so sorry im rally confuse, how do your suggetion.. please a little more detailed guide please
[20:54] <Daviey> hallyn: The blocker is it needs to be $release-proposed.. The dev that sponsors could do that, but it's tradition to get it correct for the sponsor just to upload it.  The comment about the the changelog was more of a comment.. Personally, i wouldn't normally upload something without testing, and the enduser see "Well $someone said they caught it this time" seems a little unsure.
[20:55] <hallyn> Daviey: yeah that's why your comment convinced me to push a package to my ppa for confirmation first
[20:55] <Daviey> hallyn: Awesome!
[20:55] <hallyn> Daviey: then if confirmed i'll change to lucid-proposed and re-submit, thanks much :)
[20:56] <Daviey> hallyn: you rock.
[20:56] <hallyn> no YOU ROCK
[21:09] <evident> ok now everything is working as it should... zsh running with my settings, ssh port is changed and everything works... but one question: /etc/profile:5: no matches found: /etc/profile.d/*.sh ... I get this message after logging in via ssh. What does that mean?
[21:14] <hallyn> evident: well it looks harmless, but it looks like /etc/profile assumes that if /etc/profile.d/ exists, there will be file in it;  and you have none
[21:14] <hallyn> (mine has speechd-user-port.sh)
[21:14] <hallyn> you can probably just rm -rf /etc/profile.d to shut it up
[21:17] <evident> hallyn: thanks! it's gone now... :D
[21:21] <ccheney> Daviey, we have it tracked down to between 2.6.32.15 and 2.6.33rc1 now
[21:36] <King_of_Metal> if I want something to be added to PATH on boot (before login), where should I put it?
[21:44] <Kaffien> what FS would be best for the  NFS share?
[21:45] <Kaffien> i'm thinking either ext4 or xfs
[22:00] <hallyn> Kaffien: i'd recommend xfs myself, having been bitten by ext4...
[22:10]  * soren <3 xfs :)
[22:45] <wiretapped> is there a way to determine the linux vfs page cache hit ratio?
[22:47] <wiretapped> i'm looking in to ways it might be possible with systemtap, using a kernel with DEBUG_INFO, but it seems like there ought to be an easier way
[22:53] <kirkland> soren: so i think i've figured out that vmbuilder -> real hardware problem
[22:53] <kirkland> soren: looks to be the -virtual kernel
[22:53] <kirkland> soren: i installed -generic kernel and it works fine
[22:59] <Theravadan> anyone know why upon reboot lo isn't configured w/ 127.0.0.1?
[22:59] <Theravadan> i swapped nics via /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[23:38] <xperia> hello to all.i have inserted new harddisks in the free slots of my raid array in the proliant 530M G2 Server. I have added them also to my existing ext4 array and proved in the bios array config if they were enabled. but when i boot in debain i dont see any of the free disk space. my question is what do i need to do to get the free disk space ?
[23:40] <xperia> ehh when i boot in ubuntu i dont see the free disk space. it show allways the same disk space and disk usage as i have inserted the new disks
[23:49] <Kaffien> hallyn, how did ext4 bite you?
[23:49] <hallyn> corruption.  remounted itself readonly and would never properly clean up after reboot.
[23:49] <Kaffien> m33-
[23:50] <Kaffien> im using that for the system part
[23:50] <Kaffien> but when was that?
[23:50]  * hallyn doesn't know what m33- is
[23:50] <Kaffien> m33o
[23:50] <Kaffien> errr
[23:50] <Kaffien> m33p
[23:50] <Kaffien> meeep   acck ... oh no ... that's not good eeeeek
[23:51] <hallyn> got it :)
[23:52] <Kaffien> how long ago did that happen?
[23:52] <Kaffien> because i know ext4 had those issues early on
[23:56] <hallyn> few weeks ago, actually
[23:56] <Kaffien> werd
[23:56] <Kaffien> wierd even
[23:57] <Kaffien> i wonder why they would put it as the default format on a server os if it is that sketchy
[23:57] <Kaffien> are you sure the drive wasn't pooched?