| NCommander | Riddell: ping | 00:30 |
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| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1141986 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Fix a bug where changelog fetching would fail for packages where source name == binary name | 01:20 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1141989 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (globals.h worker/worker.cpp worker/workeracquire.cpp) Implement two new errors: UserCancelError and DownloadDisallowed error, for when the user cancels a download and for when the APT configuration prohibits downloading, respectively | 01:36 |
| lex79 | ScottK: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/ubuntu/revision/4 | 02:03 |
| lex79 | I added the patch for armel | 02:03 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1141990 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workeracquire.cpp Work around libapt-pkg braindeadness and don't report negative percentages :/ Fixes the issue where the progressbar of anything listening to the worker would stop updating at a certain point | 02:15 |
| JontheEchidna | LibQApt. Working around libapt-pkg, so that you don't have to. (tm) | 02:16 |
| ScottK | lex79: Thanks. | 02:20 |
| lex79 | np :) | 02:20 |
| ScottK | lex79: There are a bunch of plasma-widgets in Universe that are FTBFS and need similar changes. Any chance you could look into that? | 02:24 |
| lex79 | if I'm able I can do :) | 02:25 |
| lex79 | uhm, but the problem is that I/we don't have armel hardware or access to armel ppa | 02:26 |
| ScottK | Yes, but for a 15 minute build, I don't particularly mind throwing it at the archive and seeing if it sticks. | 02:27 |
| ScottK | As long as it's not too many times ... | 02:27 |
| ScottK | kdeedu has a similar problem too, but I don't propose to fix that one that way as it's a long build. | 02:27 |
| lex79 | ok | 02:27 |
| ScottK | Be back in a bit. It's test building now and I'll upload it if it works. | 02:28 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoplr1494-jpg.jpg debconf \o/ | 02:38 |
| lex79 | :) | 02:40 |
| JontheEchidna | Pretty impressive changelog, eh? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/ChangeLog?revision=1141994&view=markup | 02:45 |
| JontheEchidna | (not that I'm about to do a 1.0, there's some non-trivial improvements that need to be done to both Muon and LibQApt) | 02:47 |
| lex79 | yes, impressive lol | 02:47 |
| lex79 | indeed :) | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | I saw bug 158321 and thought "I can probably do that with 5 lines of code with KDE". I did it in 3 | 02:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 158321 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Synaptic needs to inhibit GPM from sleeping while downloading/installing packages" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158321 | 02:49 |
| JontheEchidna | well, not including includes, forward declarations, etc | 02:49 |
| lex79 | bah :( dolphin sometime freezes here | 02:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I really need to just stop procrastinating and code that tab: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopye1494-jpg.jpg | 02:53 |
| JontheEchidna | But complex layouting is a pain... proper label alignment is hard.... | 02:54 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: m_font.setPixelSize( qMax(size().width() / 5, 1.0) ); | 02:55 |
| lex79 | only "5" is a costant? | 02:56 |
| JontheEchidna | 5 is a normal int, yes | 02:56 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, and size().width() will be a normal int too | 02:56 |
| JontheEchidna | but the 1.0 is a float | 02:56 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: uhm but 1.0 should be also double? | 02:59 |
| lex79 | I've this error: no matching function for call to 'qMax(qreal, double)' | 02:59 |
| lex79 | so, or 5 or 1.0 should be double... | 03:00 |
| lex79 | :) | 03:00 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 03:01 |
| lex79 | uh | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | qMax(size().width() / 5 is probably a fraction | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | er | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | size().width() / 5 | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | ^that's the qreal | 03:02 |
| lex79 | yes, so I'm wondering if ( qMax(size().width() / 5, qreal(1.0) ) ); fix the ftbs | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | that's what I was about to suggest | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | Dunno if it'll fix | 03:03 |
| lex79 | well I make the patch, and we'll see | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | let me try something first | 03:04 |
| lex79 | debug debg :) | 03:04 |
| ScottK | lex79: Uploaded. Thanks. | 03:04 |
| lex79 | you're welcome | 03:05 |
| * lex79 wondering why we can't have an armel ppa if we want care about this stuff | 03:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: qMax((6/5), qreal(1.0)); failed with no matching function for call to ‘qMax(int, double)’ | 03:06 |
| JontheEchidna | but | 03:06 |
| JontheEchidna | qMax(qreal(6/5), qreal(1.0)); worked | 03:07 |
| lex79 | uhm strange | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I think they just both have to be the same container | 03:07 |
| lex79 | maybe 6/5 is not a qreal | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | perhaps, but size().width() and 5 are both ints | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | just as 6 and 5 are both ints | 03:09 |
| ScottK | lex79: I'm working on it. No promises. | 03:09 |
| lex79 | ok :) | 03:09 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: size().width() are ints but the errors says no matching function for call to 'qMax(qreal, double)' :/ | 03:11 |
| lex79 | so qMax(size().width() / 5, should be qreal :( | 03:11 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, ok | 03:11 |
| JontheEchidna | as long as they're both qreal they should be the same. That's the important part | 03:11 |
| lex79 | yes | 03:11 |
| JontheEchidna | *they should be fine | 03:11 |
| lex79 | with dh --with kde $@ I have to add quilt to build-depends if I want add a patch? | 03:15 |
| lex79 | I don't remember | 03:16 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: if you have source format 3.0 (quilt) you don't need to | 03:16 |
| JontheEchidna | but otherwise you would have to add the build-depend | 03:17 |
| lex79 | thanks | 03:17 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I uploaded a fix for armel here: https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages | 03:31 |
| ScottK | OK. Let's just see if it builds in the PPA and if it does, I'll push it to the archive. | 03:33 |
| ScottK | plasma-widget-networkmanagement is past where it died before. That's a good sign. | 03:34 |
| lex79 | kk | 03:34 |
| ScottK | lex79: Is you GPG key ID 37B9623E? | 03:46 |
| lex79 | yes | 03:47 |
| ScottK | you/your | 03:47 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks. | 03:47 |
| lex79 | http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x56A39A528DE4CF1A9F5069E7C154436F37B9623E&op=index | 03:47 |
| ScottK | Uploaded. Thanks. Let's see how this one does. | 03:47 |
| ScottK | Yeah, I retrieved it, I was just a bit suprised I didn't have yours already. | 03:48 |
| lex79 | :) did you upload the widget into armel ppa? | 03:49 |
| ScottK | No. I uploaded it to the archive. | 03:49 |
| ScottK | I don't have access to an armel PPA at the moment either. | 03:49 |
| lex79 | ok | 03:49 |
| shtylman | Riddell: anything new with the site? ... can we take matters into our own hands at some point? | 03:57 |
| shtylman | I feel it is kind of bad to not move forward with this... I know it isn't priority for canonical... so I can understand that | 03:58 |
| shtylman | but we do have people that can set this thing up | 03:58 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I don't see other plasma-widget fault on armel, only -smooth-tasks which I've just uploaded here: https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages | 03:58 |
| lex79 | but wait plasma-widget-droptoimageshack building before :) | 03:59 |
| ScottK | Yes. I'll look for others. | 03:59 |
| ScottK | lex79: I remembered there were more, but I guess I was wrong. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-drop2ftp/0.6-0ubuntu4 could use some more general help. | 04:01 |
| lex79 | yes I saw that.... | 04:04 |
| lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-droptoimageshack/0.5.2-0ubuntu3/+build/1809353 | 04:05 |
| lex79 | \o/ | 04:05 |
| ScottK | Congratulations. | 04:06 |
| lex79 | :) | 04:06 |
| ScottK | Please send the patch upstream. | 04:06 |
| lex79 | ok | 04:06 |
| ScottK | lex79: plasma-widget-smooth-tasks_0.0~wip20100227-0ubuntu3_source.changes heaved at the archive. Thanks again. | 04:07 |
| lex79 | you're welcome | 04:08 |
| ScottK | Win on plasma-widget-networkmanagement too. | 04:16 |
| ScottK | NCommander: We found your deputy armel fixer. | 04:16 |
| ScottK | :-) | 04:16 |
| lex79 | :) | 04:18 |
| lex79 | btw kdeedu ftbs in all arch | 04:18 |
| NCommander | ScottK: score! | 04:18 |
| ScottK | lex79: Yeah, but look at armel. It's "special" | 04:23 |
| lex79 | :) | 04:25 |
| lex79 | smooth-tasks ftbs, same issue but in another place | 04:31 |
| lex79 | uhm seems there's a ton of code to fix in smoot-thask | 04:36 |
| lex79 | we'll see tomorrow | 04:36 |
| ScottK | OK. Let me know. | 04:46 |
| lumm | morning.. where can i find the alpha1 ? i still run beta2 from the beta ppa.. | 07:57 |
| lumm | with a werid x window bug. if i gonna close it plasma crashes. | 07:58 |
| lumm | http://pastebin.com/WcEsZiFv , the backtrace | 08:00 |
| * apachelogger hugs everyone | 10:21 | |
| * shadeslayer hugs apachelogger back | 10:32 | |
| shadeslayer | hug lag :p | 10:32 |
| === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how could you tell the package was of BSD and not GPL? | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what package? | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | looking at the debian/copyright file? | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hmm | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: theres no BSD license in src/qipmsg-xdg-open | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | its GPL... i think | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/FuyGC2Qb | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | see, that "I think" is wrong there :P | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | where does it actually say that this is licensed GPL? | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | no where :) | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | in order to apply a license one must specifically say "This file here is available to you under the conditions of the GNU GPL version 5 and no other" | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | sooo | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | on second thought I do not think it is BSD either ;) | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | but clearly it is not gpl | 10:53 |
| tsimpson | it kind of like a minimalistic BSD, but it's not a standard license | 10:53 |
| tsimpson | so it's just a custom license | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | that also depeneds on the defintion of standard ;) | 10:54 |
| * apachelogger suggests googling a prominent line | 10:54 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also, since for whatever reason there is this code file is copied from xdg-utils you could look at its debian/copyright and see how they define the license there | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: upstream ships a debian/ folder,i could paste the copyright file from there | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if it is valid and complete | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | otherwise it is of no use to the problem at hand :/ | 10:56 |
| tsimpson | apachelogger: they just copy the license verbatim | 10:56 |
| tsimpson | see /usr/share/doc/xdg-utils/copyright | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | aye | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | should be done eitherway ;) | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://shadeslayer.pastebin.com/D87CLyGc | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | also it seems to be referred too as MIT-style license it seems | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | not particularly bound to the BSD license in specific | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, mention that the file foobar is not licensed under GPL 3+ but: | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | <verbatim copy of license> | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | oh, and you probably should mention that it also has different copyright holders ;) | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: in debian/copyright? | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | aye | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | AFAICS this is the exactly license as applied so you may refer to it by name.... "foobar is not licensed under the GNU GPL 3+, as stated above, but under the MIT license: <verabtim copy>" | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: ^ mit license it is :) | 11:02 |
| tsimpson | hmm,people should at least note "this file is released under the ... license: ..." | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | primarily people should license and copyright their files properly ... which btw the author of the source distribution that shadeslayer is trying to package did not do, so ... | 11:03 |
| * apachelogger will settle for properly licensed ^^ | 11:03 | |
| apachelogger | oha | 11:18 |
| * apachelogger is wondering | 11:19 | |
| apachelogger | now either my desktop file patch will break universe desktop file translations OR add useless overhead | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | :/ | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | brrrr | 11:19 |
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| steveire | Grantlee shouldn't build tests normally? There is a cmake var for that. | 12:51 |
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| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142243 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Greatly improve the long description parsing algorithm, resulting in a long description without 80-char linebreaks. It uses a regex from gnome-app-install to handle bullet-pointed lists | 14:29 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: is this regex better than the new handling in aptcc? | 14:30 |
| dantti | cause in aptcc it doesn't have 80-char linebreaks too | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: A bit better. It splits the long desc into sections (at the line containing only '.'), replaces '*' and '-' in lists with a tab and a '•' | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopdf3457-jpg.jpg <-qapt-style | 14:33 |
| * shadeslayer starts work on apturl for rekonq | 14:33 | |
| JontheEchidna | KPK: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopul3457-jpg.jpg | 14:34 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: why all that indentation? | 14:35 |
| JontheEchidna | that's the standard unicode tab character. Wonder if I can make it smaller, thoguh | 14:35 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe just make it 4 spaces? :P | 14:36 |
| dantti | imho i would add a max of 1 space | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopwr3457-jpg.jpg | 14:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Also, debconf (did this shortly after you left yesterday): http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopnt3457-jpg.jpg | 14:43 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142250 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Tone down the indentation there... | 14:46 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: With debconf, pressing cancel freezes dpkg (and gives this error: QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver) | 14:46 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: how many spaces are there now? imho it's much better :D | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: just one now | 14:48 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: what happens if you kill your app with the debconf inside? | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: Killing the policykit helper that actually does the install leaves the debconf lock in place | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | I have to remove the contents of /var/lib/debconf before I can use debconf again | 14:50 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: in ubuntu the gnome dialog does not have cancel, but in debian it has I don't know exactly why.... | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like adept had a cancel button in the past too: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/adept-debconf.png | 14:51 |
| dantti | when you press cancel you are actually closing the socket | 14:51 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: here the cancel works but it would be good to know if it should remain there | 14:52 |
| jjesse | JontheEchidna w/ adept when i hit cancel i would often get a notice there was a lock that had t obe removed before i could install an app | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse: that's what I'm getting here too | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe Ubuntu removed it because it was unreliable | 14:53 |
| jjesse | removed adept ? | 14:53 |
| jjesse | i never liked adept it was ugly and hard to use | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | removed the cancel button from debconf dialogs | 14:53 |
| jjesse | and awful to try and document | 14:53 |
| dantti | jjesse: you should have seem the wonderfull code ;) | 14:54 |
| jjesse | gagh | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | ;) | 14:54 |
| jjesse | i tried 4 or 5 times to create a help doc for adept | 14:54 |
| jjesse | and wanted to pull my eyes out each time i sat down to work on it | 14:54 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142256 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Merge xapian search alogrithm with Synaptic's | 15:13 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142271 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp package.cpp) A few more safeties for using the xapian index (should prevent crashes in case of xapian failure) plus a few string->char optimizations | 15:30 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142272 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp --qDebug() | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: btw, still need the logic for changelog url constructing? | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | http://paste.ubuntu.com/454482/ | 15:32 |
| JontheEchidna | % == +, but using QStringBuilder for efficiency | 15:32 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: hmm you actually miss what I miss too | 15:32 |
| dantti | there is a regex provided by some debian page that extracts the changelog like from version 2 ~ 2.2 ... | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | preliminary support for apt:// in git,doesnt load anything right now :P | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | http://gitorious.org/~shadeslayer/rekonq/shadeslayers-clone/commit/7933307371b1c9a354882df15a308146cba027d1 | 15:39 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: I'll remove the cancel button then... mvo said to me that ppl that didn't know what to answer simply click cancel | 15:43 |
| dantti | that was the reason for the removal | 15:44 |
| CIA-99 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142283 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (5 files in 4 dirs) Rename FindQApt.cmake -> QAptConfig.cmake, install to /usr/lib/cmake/QApt/ | 15:55 |
| * apachelogger is scared | 16:16 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: please hold me | 16:16 |
| * Nightrose holds apachelogger tightly | 16:16 | |
| * apachelogger starts crying really badly | 16:18 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: what happened? | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | itnewstoday | 16:29 |
| Tscheesy | 2weeks Break? -> consume Heise :x | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tm_xvfnNSY | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | more I do not have to say on the whole matter | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | the WHOLE | 16:33 |
| CIA-99 | [kdelibs-fix-desktopfile-translations] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100624153802-yueu3bbhxdyxrwxg * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 16:38 |
| CIA-99 | Remove kubuntu_56_langpacks_desktop_files.diff in favor of newly created | 16:38 |
| CIA-99 | kubuntu_05_langpack_desktop_files.diff which is heavily inspired by the openSUSE | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, JontheEchidna, everyone else who cares: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/kdelibs/fix-desktopfile-translations/revision/238 needs revu and testing and stuff | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: preliminary support for apturl's in rekonq http://gitorious.org/~shadeslayer/rekonq/shadeslayers-clone/commit/7933307371b1c9a354882df15a308146cba027d1 | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | now atleast it wont google apt://foo | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | now it does nothing, doesnt it? | 16:45 |
| * apachelogger is not sure if that is better really | 16:45 | |
| apachelogger | ALSO | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there is also apt+http :P | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes,it doesnt load apturl for now,but im working my way to it... | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you mean apt links on http pages? | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | no | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | I meant there is a specific protocl apt+http:// | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | /usr/share/kde4/services/apt+http.protocol | 16:46 |
| * apachelogger really does not get why one cannot use the kde protocol handling -.- | 16:47 | |
| * shadeslayer has no idea | 16:47 | |
| CIA-99 | [kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100624155956-0e577hmr48mb2p0j * (3 files in 2 dirs) * Add kpackagecode - go to Kubuntu packaging branch * Add lpuser - go to Launchpad user page | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do kde search providers work with rekonq? | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: which search providers? | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | like when you run lppeople:kubuntu in konqueror or krunner | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | or I think in kickoff | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: adjam recently added a feature that you could select your search providers | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | lemme check | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | but it shows up as the second option | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | first option is to google it | 17:01 |
| CIA-99 | [kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100624160155-wa84jva86pumm7gj * searchproviders/lpuser.desktop Synonyms for lpuser -> lpgroup and lpteam (use seem url scheme) | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that ought to be changed | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | does not even offer to google it here | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | crash | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | anyone wanna do https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-March/004197.html ? | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | do as in do the actual change? | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | or as in vote for the change | 17:04 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: any chance you could add playground/sysadmin/muon to the CIA bot? | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | execute the chagne ^^ | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do you have a cia account? | 17:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think so | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i bet we would have to add a transitional package for the previous too? | 17:06 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 17:06 |
| JontheEchidna | I do | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes, and rename the launchpad project and stuff | 17:06 |
| * shadeslayer doesnt think he has rights for the lp project | 17:07 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://cia.vc/account/bots/13437/ | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | go to advanced filters | 17:07 |
| JontheEchidna | 404'd | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | at the top you find the additional match rules | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ok will do.. when do you want it? | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: try http://cia.vc/account/bots/add/ | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | #kubuntu-devel | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | that should add the bot to your inventory | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: nothing important, before feature freeze would be nice :) | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | added to To Do list ;) | 17:09 |
| CIA-99 | [kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100624160931-df9rogy6lkninn62 * debian/ (changelog copyright) Update my copyright + use proper copyright symbols throughout the file | 17:09 |
| * apachelogger notes that a lot of devs have not yet contributed to that package and gained copyright on it | 17:10 | |
| apachelogger | IMHO this should happen before endorsing anyone for kubuntu-dev, core-dev or motu | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | even pitti holds copyright on it ^^ | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | no clue how that happened | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | ah, he changed the maintainer field :D | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | see, it is that easy to gain copyright, one just has to do it | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:12 |
| * shadeslayer wonders when ofir comes onto the IRC | 17:12 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: dude, how long does it take to find a bot? :P | 17:13 |
| * apachelogger is wondering if the JontheEchidna bot crashed :/ | 17:13 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: any info regarding KProtocolInfo ? | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | i want to list all supported kioslaves using that | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | was looking at http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/kprotocolinfo_8h_source.html | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs/kdecore/classKProtocolInfo.html | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs/kdecore/classKProtocolInfo.html#944ce9a3736c52c702e1d5d121b99be6 | 17:16 |
| * apachelogger thinks that formatting is off with that api.kde.org | 17:16 | |
| apachelogger | QStringList KProtocolInfo::protocols ( ) [static] | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | Returns list of all known protocols. | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | any idea of the return type? | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: supposedly what you should do is try isKnownProtocol() if that is true try protocolClass() if that is ":internet" call exec() for it | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: QStringList :P | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | but as said, I would not go at the problem this way | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ok,how would you go at it? | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | as stated :P | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | 1. check if special case, i.e. no protocol or http or whatever rekonq wants to do specifically | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i found the reason why rekonq doesnt honour our protocols | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/f871B6Hn | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | 2. if nothing of that applies use my lookups | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | line 71 | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | 3. if that fails too then we cannot process the protocol | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | and google what ever is in there :P | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | i added apt: there btw ;) | 17:22 |
| * apachelogger blinks | 17:22 | |
| * apachelogger blinks like wild | 17:22 | |
| * apachelogger starts emitting smoke | 17:23 | |
| * apachelogger starts making weird sounds | 17:23 | |
| === apachelogger is now known as brokenl00gR | ||
| shadeslayer | 0_o | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 17:24 |
| * shadeslayer broke apachelogger | 17:25 | |
| ScottK | 4.4.90 tagged | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: beat me to it | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: 4.4.90 tagged btw | 17:43 |
| lex79 | I know, but no tarballs yet | 17:43 |
| lex79 | :) | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 17:44 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: we lose, that's impossible :( | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: btw do you think bug 598159 could be a packaging issue? | 17:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 598159 in kdegames (Ubuntu) "kpat crash in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598159 | 17:45 |
| lex79 | uhm it doesn't crash here | 17:47 |
| ulysses | same here, works fine | 17:48 |
| brokenl00gR | brrrr | 17:49 |
| ulysses | however the whole plasma-desktop crashes, when I right click on the system tray | 17:49 |
| * brokenl00gR never finds the window control buttons on the right | 17:49 | |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: so I don't think is a packaging issue | 17:49 |
| * brokenl00gR moves out to move them buttons to the left | 17:49 | |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:49 |
| lex79 | ulysses: I think agateau is working on it | 17:49 |
| JontheEchidna | bot ain't working :( | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: yes works here too | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | ill mention that | 17:49 |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: that bug should go to kde.bugs.org | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | yes,im asking for the details and then ill forward it | 17:50 |
| lex79 | good :) | 17:50 |
| brokenl00gR | lex79: I think you get the order wrong there :) | 17:51 |
| brokenl00gR | kubotu: np apachelogger | 17:51 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "the Long Run" by Reel Big Fish [http://open.spotify.com/track/4eK2dVmGv0zQmAFMsuzdju] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: why so broken? :P | 17:51 |
| brokenl00gR | too much ugly code at once | 17:51 |
| brokenl00gR | is that menubar business backported to lucid btw? | 17:52 |
| brokenl00gR | the one that incidently looks like osx' but is not copied at all :P | 17:52 |
| lex79 | lol :) | 17:52 |
| lex79 | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta/+packages?field.name_filter=libdbusmenu&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= | 17:53 |
| lex79 | in lucid there's the old version | 17:53 |
| lex79 | but since the new one is broken.... :) | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: the one i uploaded is working? | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: bug 598159 updated ;) | 17:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 598159 in kdegames (Ubuntu) "kpat crash in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598159 | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. marking as incomplete | 17:55 |
| lex79 | I don't have lucid system but it should work | 17:57 |
| brokenl00gR | I command you to install! | 17:59 |
| brokenl00gR | eh | 17:59 |
| * brokenl00gR better enters that in a terminal ^^ | 17:59 | |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: he probably has maverick :P | 18:00 |
| brokenl00gR | http://paste.ubuntu.com/454576/ | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: \o | 18:00 |
| brokenl00gR | I meant that literal | 18:00 |
| * brokenl00gR can do that on a terminal :P | 18:00 | |
| lex79 | lol | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: i took a look at kdiff3 for you,it doesnt need merging :P | 18:00 |
| bhargav | shadeslayer: ya .it was supposed to be synced. | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: how did you do that? :p | 18:01 |
| brokenl00gR | sekrit | 18:01 |
| brokenl00gR | maybe one day I shall publish this | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: no no,we do not want to sync it either | 18:01 |
| brokenl00gR | although then everyone would be as cool as I am which is a bit unsettling | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: it has ubuntu changes we cannot and should not drop | 18:02 |
| * shadeslayer removes cruft from maverick install | 18:02 | |
| brokenl00gR | my rekonq is broken \o/ | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: btw any idea why rekonq wont use apt:// but will use lppeople:// ? | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: whats broken? | 18:03 |
| brokenl00gR | ah, it unbrick by forgetting about the page I used last time ^^ | 18:03 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: crashes when loading a search for lppeople:kubuntu | 18:03 |
| brokenl00gR | anyhow | 18:03 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: lppeople is not a protocol | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: 0_o | 18:03 |
| brokenl00gR | lppeople is just a search provider | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 18:04 |
| brokenl00gR | search providers != protocols | 18:04 |
| * shadeslayer wonders how to integrate apt:// stuff in rekonq | 18:04 | |
| brokenl00gR | searchproviders != protocols != kioslaves | 18:04 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: I told you already :P | 18:04 |
| brokenl00gR | just add fallback logic | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: i know but the actual implementation part is hard | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: your algo has a good effect too | 18:04 |
| brokenl00gR | well | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: if pepole on non debian system install rekonq,no need to worry for apt:// stuff :P | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | isKnownProtocol() will return false automatically :P | 18:05 |
| brokenl00gR | you really just need to ditch it in between current protocol guessing, erm parsing, and the execution of defualt search provider (i.e. google search) | 18:06 |
| neversfelde | lex79: but it was a great show today, just saw the goals. I think the italian team needs to be rejuvenated now | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: did you talk to ofir? | 18:06 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: you're right... | 18:06 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer: no, I did not see him | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: same here... | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: ok,btw i have no idea how to call the exec() part :P | 18:07 |
| * shadeslayer hits up on kprotocolInfo | 18:08 | |
| brokenl00gR | kubotu: np apachelogger | 18:08 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "sad robot" by pornophonique [8-bit lagerfeuer, 2006] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more | 18:08 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: KProtocolInfo::execute("apt://hello"); | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: oohh.. | 18:08 |
| brokenl00gR | where apt://hello will really be a kurl that is coming from somewhere | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: and what about http:// stuff | 18:09 |
| brokenl00gR | or a string | 18:09 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: that should match before | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: before? | 18:09 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: there is this custom URL guessing, erm, parsing, and if that matches then it will probably do something and the part where protocols would be checked will never be reached | 18:09 |
| * shadeslayer does not understand.. | 18:09 | |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 18:10 |
| * shadeslayer writes some basic code | 18:10 | |
| brokenl00gR | | check if url is http, ftp, file, ... | | 18:10 |
| brokenl00gR | if yes -> do magic and return | 18:10 |
| brokenl00gR | if no -> | 18:10 |
| brokenl00gR | | check if url is known protocol | | 18:10 |
| brokenl00gR | if yes -> process url | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: ill have to add a custom entry for each protocol then? | 18:10 |
| brokenl00gR | if no -> use default search provider and search for the alleged url | 18:10 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: no | 18:11 |
| brokenl00gR | somehow | 18:11 |
| brokenl00gR | in some class of rekonq | 18:11 |
| brokenl00gR | there will arrive the string "apt://firefox" | 18:11 |
| brokenl00gR | indicating that the user wants to go there | 18:11 |
| brokenl00gR | then custom guessing happens | 18:12 |
| brokenl00gR | and will not do anything because it does not know what to do with apt:// | 18:12 |
| brokenl00gR | now you get it | 18:12 |
| brokenl00gR | and you run | 18:12 |
| brokenl00gR | if (KProtocolInfo::isKnownProtocol(incomingUrl)) { | 18:12 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: sftp support would be really nice too. | 18:12 |
| brokenl00gR | ... | 18:13 |
| brokenl00gR | } | 18:13 |
| brokenl00gR | if it is no known protocol or that if returns eitherway | 18:13 |
| brokenl00gR | -> run search using that incoming thing | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: if i can manage to understand all of this,ill implement it :P | 18:13 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:13 |
| brokenl00gR | in fact you just have to sneak this special KProtocol stuff in and check if the incoming URL is a known protocol and execute if it is | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | you guys will have to help with this tho :P | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: righto | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: i think that part of the code will go in urlreslover.cpp | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | in UrlSearchList AwesomeUrlCompletion::substringCompletion(const QString& completionString) function | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | wait not there | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | in UrlSearchList UrlResolver::orderedSearchItems() | 18:16 |
| brokenl00gR | well then | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | thats where all the magic seems to happen | 18:17 |
| brokenl00gR | rekumq cannot not crash | 18:17 |
| brokenl00gR | it is like the amarok :/ | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: rekonq + flash == broken currently | 18:18 |
| brokenl00gR | I do not have no flash installed! | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | oh.. in that case... iDunno (TM) | 18:18 |
| bhargav | shadeslayer: i guess the ubuntu changes are included in the debian version | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: nope.. the ubuntu changes are to the docs and some other stuff | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: look at the last upload of kdiff3 | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | ( to maverick ) | 18:19 |
| bhargav | shadeslayer: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdiff3/kdiff3_0.9.95-6/changelog | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: Maverick Upload :P | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdiff3 | 18:21 |
| bhargav | shadeslayer: look for version 0.9.95-5 | 18:21 |
| bhargav | shadeslayer: ya.. i know :P | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | bhargav: doc paths for debian and ubuntu are different | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | afaik | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: oohhh Sad Robot is awesome | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | free download from last.fm | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: are you free atm? | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: qtcreator cannot pick up installed examples from qt4-demos,i *think* theres a missing .xml file which provides meta info about the examples which we are missing in our package,can you look at this issue? | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | the .xml file is in the qt4-demos package | 18:29 |
| lex79 | I will look, not today I think | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | sure :) | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: also i think its missing the .xml file,not entirely sure | 18:32 |
| lex79 | ok, maybe becase we are using a snapshot of Qt, dunno | 18:33 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I updated the patch for smooth-task to fix armel issue... https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages | 18:35 |
| lex79 | maybe we can wait someone that have access to armel ppa | 18:35 |
| * ScottK looks at NCommander. | 18:37 | |
| Mamarok | dear Amarok packager(s), please don't forget the dependencies for libmysql, else it doesn't work for non-KDE users: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242711 | 18:37 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 242711 in Collection "Scanning does not update Collection" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] | 18:37 |
| Mamarok | I guess KDE already has these because of Akonadi, but Gnome users don't | 18:38 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: are you giving the user a link to see the change log right? | 18:44 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopqx3457-jpg.jpg | 18:45 |
| JontheEchidna | it just loads it when you click the package | 18:45 |
| JontheEchidna | Maybe it should only load it when you click on the changelog tab | 18:45 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: well afair the change log is an apt data, not a link to get the info | 18:46 |
| dantti | like aptitude changelog foo | 18:46 |
| dantti | that will give you the whole changelog, then you apply a regex to get just from the current version | 18:47 |
| JontheEchidna | ^or at least all the versions newer than the current one installed | 18:48 |
| JontheEchidna | that would be sweet | 18:48 |
| brokenl00gR | JontheEchidna: did you add muon yet? | 18:48 |
| JontheEchidna | brokenl00gR: yes, but it ain't working | 18:48 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: the regex http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/footnotes.html#f16 | 18:49 |
| * brokenl00gR in his obsession with performance is wondering how much easier the blinky busy courser is on the cpu ^^ | 18:49 | |
| brokenl00gR | JontheEchidna: that is because your syntax is not 100% right :) | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: for closing bugs in debian/changelog? | 18:51 |
| brokenl00gR | stuff between <and> and </and> must all match to match at global scope | 18:51 |
| brokenl00gR | i.e. your change would only work if you had a path that contained both libqapt AND muon in the context of project kde | 18:51 |
| brokenl00gR | dantti: your debconf stuff is brilliant! \o/ | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | \o | 18:58 |
| ScottK | lex79: Thanks. I got impatient and heaved it at the archive. | 19:06 |
| CIA-99 | [muon] jmthomas * 1142364 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DownloadWidget.cpp KUIT tags for the DownloadWidget. Missed that in my first sweep ;) | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | it werks | 19:06 |
| brokenl00gR | splendid! | 19:07 |
| * brokenl00gR finds callgrind very odd today | 19:07 | |
| brokenl00gR | http://imagebin.ca/view/Z_tkHB.html | 19:08 |
| brokenl00gR | what is cycle 20 and why is it called by playpausebutton | 19:08 |
| * lex79 uploaded kds to beta ppa | 19:10 | |
| brokenl00gR | Nightrose: just so I have mentioned this, in a start/quit sequence you seem to issue 206 queries and those seem to be responsible for 11.58 % of the overall cost profile | 19:10 |
| Nightrose | brokenl00gR: ? | 19:11 |
| brokenl00gR | Nightrose: in the amarok | 19:11 |
| * Nightrose redirects brokenl00gR to the other channel to tell the devs | 19:12 | |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 19:12 |
| Nightrose | sorry - to busy finishing this off here | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: btw seen the new wallpapers? http://blog.uninstall.it/2010/06/24/kde-sc-4-5-wallpapers/ | 19:18 |
| lex79 | nice :) | 19:19 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm | 19:20 |
| JontheEchidna | It seems that mapping to the source model is a bit expensive: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopk28421-jpg.jpg | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | truly.. | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | whats the difference between qt and qt quick? | 19:22 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: How you can get that ^ map? | 19:23 |
| lex79 | interesting :P | 19:23 |
| JontheEchidna | using valgrind's callgrind tool | 19:24 |
| lex79 | oh kcachegrind | 19:25 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 19:27 |
| === rdieter is now known as rex_the_krita | ||
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| brokenl00gR | JontheEchidna: well, it apparently is what is calling PackageModel::data(), and that would appear to cause at least 1 million of those mallocs | 19:38 |
| brokenl00gR | that mount of heap mambo jambo is probably heavy :) | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | It's sorting 30,000 packages alphabetically by package name :s | 19:39 |
| brokenl00gR | Well, first it must get the package data in I suppose ;) | 19:41 |
| brokenl00gR | the sorting is done by the qAlgorithm stuff | 19:41 |
| brokenl00gR | that ought not to be the expensive stuff here | 19:41 |
| brokenl00gR | does that block though? | 19:42 |
| brokenl00gR | or will it fill the model on-the-fly? | 19:42 |
| JontheEchidna | The initial loading/sorting of the model blocks the gui | 19:42 |
| JontheEchidna | for like 3 seconds | 19:42 |
| brokenl00gR | oh | 19:43 |
| * brokenl00gR is wondering if one can fill the model in a thread | 19:43 | |
| brokenl00gR | should probably be possible if there is no weird thread scope issue | 19:43 |
| brokenl00gR | so it would fill the view on-the-fly | 19:43 |
| brokenl00gR | which ought to be possible since nothing else is happening if you have a view where you can delete stuff | 19:44 |
| dantti | brokenl00gR: thanks | 19:53 |
| neversfelde | rc tarballs | 20:31 |
| neversfelde | ~ninjas | 20:31 |
| kubotu | apachelogger, JontheEchidna, Lex79, neversfelde, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, nixternal and Quintasan ... to the Batcave! | 20:31 |
| ScottK | Where do I get my 4.4.90 packages? Aren't they done yet? How come it isn't announced on kubuntu.org? | 20:32 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 20:32 |
| lex79 | omg lol | 20:32 |
| neversfelde | ScottK: I'll answer later :D | 20:32 |
| jjesse | yeah were are they | 20:32 |
| === lex79 changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are amazing <3 | Alpha 1 released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay Wed 7th July 18:00UTC | Kubuntu Meeting : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | KDE 4.5 RC1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | ||
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: me too! | 20:36 |
| * shadeslayer wonders why kubotu doesnt list him | 20:37 | |
| lex79 | brokenl00gR: ^^ | 20:37 |
| brokenl00gR | the pit is open!!!! | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | eh? | 20:39 |
| brokenl00gR | JontheEchidna: ^ care to enlighten ;) | 20:40 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not feeling very enlightened at teh moment :( | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | stupid dolphin asks for a password every time i go inside a dir | 20:41 |
| brokenl00gR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Impossible_Planet | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | omg.. oxygen icons == 130 MB 0_o | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | ow | 20:43 |
| * shadeslayer doesnt watch Dr. Who | 20:43 | |
| a|wen | ScottK: a quick look through the k3b patchset reveals that all patches seems to have a purpose, and they are in fact debian/kubuntu specific and not upstreamable ... only exception is debian/patches/debian-changes-1.92.0~rc3-1ubuntu1 which should be removed | 20:44 |
| ScottK | Cool. Thanks for checking. | 20:45 |
| a|wen | ScottK: can you take care of removing the last one, or do you rather want a diff for it? | 20:46 |
| ScottK | I can do it. | 20:46 |
| a|wen | cool | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | lex79: how long would it take for kdelibs to compile? | 20:52 |
| lex79 | where? in the ppa? | 20:52 |
| lex79 | 1 - 1,5 hour | 20:52 |
| ScottK | It can, however, fail in as little as a minute if you work at it. | 20:53 |
| lex79 | btw this release shold be done for tomorrow I think | 20:53 |
| lex79 | uhmm, I mean, we have to do this release for tomorrow I think :) | 20:54 |
| Quintasan | grrrr | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | welcomed by a failing patch | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | :S | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: same here : | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | kdeplasma addons | 20:56 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: you should not mention such things in here really :P | 20:57 |
| * shadeslayer doesnt know :P | 20:57 | |
| Quintasan | brokenl00gR: ha? why not | 20:57 |
| Quintasan | ah it's Harald | 20:58 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: lol | 20:58 |
| * shadeslayer wonders if brokenl00gR can invite him to the secret channel ... | 20:58 | |
| shadeslayer | lex79: you need this done by tommorrow ? | 20:59 |
| shadeslayer | *tomorrow | 20:59 |
| brokenl00gR | well | 20:59 |
| brokenl00gR | I could | 20:59 |
| lex79 | me too | 20:59 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 20:59 |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: I think so | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | uds.insert( KIO::UDSEntry::UDS_URL, nieUrl.url() ); | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | this | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | is replaced with | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | uds.insert( KIO::UDSEntry::UDS_TARGET_URL, fileUrl.url() ); | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | do we want it like that? | 21:00 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: ill have to work all night :P | 21:00 |
| shadeslayer | +1 | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | hngh | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | I have school year's end ceremony | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | :S | 21:00 |
| lex79 | Quintasan: name of the patch? | 21:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh my.. i get 404 on packages ... | 21:01 |
| * shadeslayer checks mirror | 21:01 | |
| * lex79 uploaded kdelibs | 21:01 | |
| lex79 | record ! | 21:01 |
| * ScottK thought we didn't use the private channel anymore. | 21:01 | |
| shadeslayer | lex79: seriously | 21:02 |
| Quintasan | lex79: kubuntu_88_nepomuksearch_uds-url.diff | 21:02 |
| lex79 | Quintasan: fixed by upstream | 21:03 |
| lex79 | disable it in the series | 21:03 |
| Quintasan | awesome | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: any idea of kubuntu_02_microblog_default_configuration.diff in kdeplasma-addons? | 21:03 |
| lex79 | I know | 21:03 |
| lex79 | nope | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: that's mine! | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: thats your patch? | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: shall we give it a test run now? | 21:04 |
| brokenl00gR | shadeslayer: try jioning | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: it fails to apply :P | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: well, I just modified it to work | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | what?! | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | :S | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | grrr | 21:04 |
| lex79 | maybe you have to refresh the patch? :) | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :D | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: can you check if it's just a few lines offset? | 21:05 |
| * shadeslayer hits F5 | 21:05 | |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: sure thing.. ive disabled it for now,letting it build without | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: we want that for Social from the Start | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: it reads the kubuntu twitter feed? | 21:06 |
| lex79 | yes | 21:06 |
| Quintasan | though I just fixed it and it fails to apply | 21:06 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: yeah | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ill build it with the patch in pbuilder.. just need to adjust mirrors | 21:06 |
| Quintasan | lex79: is it okay to upload now and then retry? | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yep | 21:07 |
| ScottK | brokenl00gR: I tought we didn't use that channel anymore since we just get tarballs from ktown. | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | thats what i do :P | 21:07 |
| lex79 | Quintasan: are you building against kdelibs 4.4.90 ? | 21:07 |
| lex79 | how you can see if there are missing file? | 21:07 |
| brokenl00gR | ScottK: we dont :P | 21:07 |
| ScottK | OK. | 21:07 |
| lex79 | +s | 21:07 |
| Quintasan | lex79: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.4) | 21:08 |
| Quintasan | I conclude it will use 4.4.90 :P | 21:08 |
| lex79 | uhm...again..test building is done in local to see if there are missing file? | 21:08 |
| Quintasan | oh crap | 21:09 |
| lex79 | or anything else? | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | I built it in lucid pbuilder | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | no wonder it fails to do anything | 21:09 |
| * lex79 starts to cry | 21:10 | |
| Quintasan | mah skills are getting rusty | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | no sleep tomorrow | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | the benefits of installing maverick | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: are there any? | 21:11 |
| Quintasan | except for unstable system ofc | 21:11 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: hehe.. well packaging for maverick is easier :P | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | no need to switch lucid with maverick in changelog | 21:11 |
| * shadeslayer likes unstable systems | 21:12 | |
| Quintasan | lex79: well. bumping kde-sc-dev-latest leaves me with a pretty nice break in buildlog :P | 21:12 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: hahaha | 21:13 |
| * shadeslayer is pissed off with his local mirror | 21:13 | |
| shadeslayer | W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 21:13 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: fix my patch instead of laughing :P | 21:13 |
| lex79 | someone makes this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph for a reason | 21:13 |
| Quintasan | @_@ | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | that's damn nice | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | lex79: thanks | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:14 |
| neversfelde | mhh | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: you didnt know about that? | 21:14 |
| lex79 | no problem | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: well, I didn't | 21:14 |
| * Quintasan scratches his head | 21:15 | |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ah ok.. that is a must for every... you know who | 21:15 |
| Quintasan | hmm, my debian stable machine just broke after upgrade | 21:15 |
| Quintasan | how's that stable? | 21:15 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | I'm going to set up a NAS | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | 4x 80GB HDDs | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | NAS? | 21:18 |
| brokenl00gR | kubotu: wp nas | 21:19 |
| kubotu | Results for nas: 1. Nas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nas | 2. Network-attached storage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage | 3. Nas (disambiguation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nas_(disambiguation) | 21:19 |
| kubotu | [1] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | 21:19 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Uploaded (k3b). Thanks again. | 21:22 |
| a|wen | ScottK: thanks | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh how can upstream do this to me | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | http://shadeslayer.pastebin.com/aHiaPPBU | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh theyre in not-installed | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | saved :P | 21:23 |
| Riddell | evening | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hey! | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: side note, 4.4.90 is in ktown | 21:28 |
| Riddell | how exciting | 21:29 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: \o | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: on your patch http://shadeslayer.pastebin.com/HSu1vziA | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: seems like it is some lines offset | 21:31 |
| lex79 | look at timelinesource.cpp and fix :) | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 21:32 |
| lex79 | :P | 21:32 |
| Riddell | waa, squillions of e-mails | 21:38 |
| neversfelde | better delete them | 21:39 |
| neversfelde | must be spam | 21:39 |
| ScottK | If any of it's important, they'll email again. | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: bah | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: you know what... the problem is with whitespaces | 21:41 |
| Quintasan | lol | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | one extra whitespace | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | in various LOC | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | realised this after going through half the diff | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | oh well | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: enjoy :P | 21:42 |
| * Quintasan has to go to bed | 21:42 | |
| shadeslayer | :) | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | ill leave this for now then :P | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | school is ending tomorrow \o/ | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | will work on something that works :P | 21:43 |
| NCommander | lex79: what do you want test built? | 21:44 |
| lex79 | NCommander: ScottK already uploaded the package in archive, thanks :) | 21:44 |
| * ScottK got impatient. | 21:45 | |
| lex79 | Quintasan: still around? :) | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | lex79: ? | 21:45 |
| lex79 | Quintasan: can you push to bzr what you have? :) | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | well | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | sure | 21:45 |
| lex79 | thanks | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | lex79: pushed, leave some work for me :P | 21:48 |
| lex79 | yes | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 21:48 |
| * shadeslayer thinks lex79 is a workaholic | 21:48 | |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: he just has too much computer power | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | night guys | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 21:49 |
| Lindows | okay, so a couple of things: | 21:49 |
| Lindows | minor: 1) it appears kpackagekit, the settings for "just notify me of updates" is ignored and they are installed anyway (kubuntu 10.04) | 21:50 |
| Lindows | much more serious: ext4 is still broken for large files | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | Lindows: uh.. are you in the right channel? | 21:50 |
| Lindows | this is the kubuntu-devel channel, right? | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 21:50 |
| Lindows | so where would I complain about ext4 bugs and that it shouldn't be the default file system for kubuntu? | 21:51 |
| Lindows | because it STILL CORRUPTS files | 21:51 |
| shadeslayer | Lindows: at bugs.launchpad ? | 21:51 |
| Lindows | so what is this channel for? | 21:51 |
| shadeslayer | Lindows: also theres #ubuntu-installer | 21:52 |
| Lindows | but its the kubutnu-installer thats the problem | 21:52 |
| Lindows | okay, nevermind | 21:52 |
| neversfelde | mhh | 21:56 |
| neversfelde | strange guy | 21:56 |
| * shadeslayer throws segfaults at lex79 | 21:56 | |
| lex79 | lol | 21:56 |
| shadeslayer | added with extra plasma goodness :D | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | go go bulldog98 :D | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: got your wiki setup? | 21:59 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: yes https://wiki.kubuntu.org/bulldog98 copied a bit of your side ^^ | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: no problem... i release everything under GPL3 ;) | 22:00 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Please do KDE stuff GPL2+ | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer | contents are a bit off | 22:01 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: d*m what to do if I need GPL2+ or KDE work | 22:01 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: +1 | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: why tho? | 22:02 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Because a lot of KDE stuff is GPL2 and GPL2 and 3 aren't compatible. | 22:02 |
| shadeslayer | ah.. | 22:02 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: KDE is under GPLv2+ | 22:02 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: It's not all 2+. There is also 2. | 22:02 |
| Riddell | KDE licence policy is for GPL 2+ for stuff in SVN, it means it's all the same so you can copy and paste code without caring about licence and it means you can link to GPL 2 only bits | 22:03 |
| Riddell | like poppler and some other libraries | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer | well.... kdeaccessibility == done | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | just checking once more with pbuilder | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | does anyone watch The IT crowd? | 22:06 |
| Riddell | new series today isn't it? | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: dunno.. someone recommended it to me :P | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | India always lags behind in such stuff | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. do we need usr/share/kde4/services/kttsd.desktop | 22:09 |
| Riddell | is it in debian/not-installed? | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | also kttsd has be replaced by jovie | 22:10 |
| Riddell | so it should probably go in the jovie package | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | usr/share/kde4/services/jovie.desktop | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | we already have that | 22:12 |
| Riddell | I'd work from the assumption that upstream know what they're doing | 22:12 |
| Riddell | this isn't always a correct assumption but it's usually the best starting point :) | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 22:13 |
| Riddell | ask jpwhiting to check | 22:13 |
| Riddell | he's in #kde-devel | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we need to ship both | 22:14 |
| Riddell | as I say, best to trust upstream unless there's a very good reason :) | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what pinotree doesnt believe me now? :P | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: kdelibs built... wohoo | 22:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: pino is from debian, they have high standards :) | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh :P | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: well i can see that from my revu uploads :P | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | s/my/comments on my | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | i even get asked to correct verbose lintian errors | 22:23 |
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| === rdieter_away is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/28470 | 22:42 |
| Riddell | ping me in half an hour if I don't get to that shadeslayer | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: kdeaccessibility is up ;) | 22:49 |
| shadeslayer | heh.. brokenl00gR still didnt add me to ~ninjas :P | 22:53 |
| lex79 | kdeaccessibility merged | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: thanks | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: poke | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer | before i forget :P | 23:10 |
| ofirk | hi | 23:10 |
| lex79 | np | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: theres a Kubuntu Meeting this monday | 23:11 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: are you still interested in applying for memebership? | 23:11 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: I saw your email | 23:12 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: yes | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: ok awesome,youll need to complete all the steps then ;) | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer | then theres something about the new kubuntu.org :D | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: why are we using the old KDE theme in the new site? | 23:13 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: do you mean, sign the code of conduct, upload GPG and write a personal page on the wiki? | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: theres more | 23:14 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: more :( | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: one sec | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: join https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer | which is about it i think :P | 23:16 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: done! | 23:16 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: thanks :) | 23:16 |
| * shadeslayer hugs ofirk | 23:16 | |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: about the theme... | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | yes.. | 23:16 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: where? at the homepage? | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | the circle overlay is the old theme | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | ( but it looks good imo ) | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | but i gathered some feedback and people said that we should use the new theme | 23:17 |
| ofirk | thanks | 23:17 |
| ofirk | feedback is very important | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: the wallpaper is old too... | 23:18 |
| shadeslayer | and that we should show actual devices running Kubuntu... like ubuntu.com does | 23:18 |
| shadeslayer | brokenl00gR: anything you want to add? | 23:19 |
| ofirk | What devices? | 23:19 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: open ubuntu.com | 23:19 |
| ofirk | they should look shiny and cool | 23:19 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: well.. it could a community contributed pic... | 23:20 |
| shadeslayer | but thats what i got as feedback ;) | 23:20 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: I want to show you an idea I have for the new download page | 23:21 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 23:21 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: There are 5 download options | 23:22 |
| shadeslayer | sure... send me the link :) | 23:22 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 23:22 |
| ofirk | very confusing for the avg. user | 23:22 |
| ofirk | so: http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download | 23:22 |
| ofirk | I just started working on this | 23:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh pretty awesome | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: suggestion : add a note about using torrente | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer | *torrents | 23:23 |
| ofirk | I think that a table which will summaries important facts about each option and gather them by their common | 23:23 |
| ofirk | noted, thanks! | 23:24 |
| shadeslayer | and do we need the table at the right? | 23:24 |
| ofirk | the one above the torrents? | 23:24 |
| shadeslayer | Install at your own risk! sounds scary :p | 23:24 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: the one on the right | 23:25 |
| ofirk | yes, it should be :) | 23:25 |
| shadeslayer | Navigation and stuff | 23:25 |
| ofirk | well, it depends | 23:25 |
| ofirk | it can make navigation easier | 23:26 |
| ofirk | but there is the upper menu which can be used for navigation | 23:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. well if we have a navigation bar at top | 23:26 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: :P | 23:26 |
| ofirk | the problem with the upper menu is the space limit | 23:27 |
| ofirk | it can only handle 5 links | 23:27 |
| ofirk | so... | 23:27 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: most people would like to return to the home page after hitting download | 23:27 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: oh! add something so that people can use a mirror from nearby | 23:27 |
| ofirk | it can be done by using the breadcrumb bar | 23:27 |
| shadeslayer | to download the ISO | 23:28 |
| shadeslayer | like a dropdown menu | 23:28 |
| shadeslayer | we dont want to overload the main servers :P | 23:28 |
| ofirk | for now it is impossible to automatically choose a mirror near-by, and listing all of them will just make people crazy | 23:28 |
| ofirk | so only the main mirror will be listed | 23:29 |
| ofirk | I hope that for the next kubuntu release the download page will be able to redirect the user to a mirror near him | 23:29 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: ok,btw ubuntu.com automatically randomizes the mirror | 23:30 |
| shadeslayer | so maybe you can look at their source code | 23:30 |
| shadeslayer | i think were merging the netbook edition and desktop edition into one | 23:31 |
| ofirk | kubuntu.org can't use php scripts (and any other server side scripting) so we are stuck with nothing that can handle mirrors... | 23:31 |
| ofirk | :( | 23:31 |
| shadeslayer | so you might want to keep that in mind :) | 23:31 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: bah... | 23:31 |
| ofirk | but they are different, no? | 23:31 |
| ofirk | wait | 23:31 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: nope | 23:31 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: its in our specs for maverick | 23:31 |
| ofirk | oh | 23:31 |
| ofirk | :) | 23:31 |
| shadeslayer | Merge Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook into a single image | 23:32 |
| ofirk | this will decrease confusion. I think this is good choice! | 23:32 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: yes,Riddell is working on a script that detects screen size and will launch plasma-* accordingly | 23:32 |
| ofirk | now I figured that kubuntu has 7 different download links | 23:34 |
| ofirk | 2 dvd, 2 cd, 1 netbook, 2 alternate | 23:34 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: nice work with http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour | 23:34 |
| ofirk | thanks again :) | 23:34 |
| ofirk | btw, I wanted to use real devices for the feature tour but couldn't find nice looking once | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | we could run a competition of sorts for this | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | best device gets featured | 23:35 |
| ofirk | but we need vendor approval for using their brand on our site | 23:36 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... idk about all the details :P | 23:36 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: oh and will it be possible to add a twitter/identi.ca stream to the main page? | 23:36 |
| shadeslayer | just goes ahead to show the ' Social Desktop ' | 23:37 |
| ofirk | maybe for the next release | 23:37 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 23:37 |
| ofirk | I want to launch the site as soon as possible... | 23:37 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: yeah :D | 23:37 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: i cant think of anything else :P | 23:38 |
| ofirk | multi-language support. which languages do you speak? | 23:38 |
| shadeslayer | Hindi | 23:39 |
| shadeslayer | and English :P | 23:39 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: is there a help.ubuntu.com in the making? | 23:39 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: oh and please please please put IRC above forums in http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/community | 23:40 |
| shadeslayer | live chat > forums imo | 23:40 |
| ofirk | IRC above forums makes sense | 23:40 |
| ofirk | about help.*.*, not right now, but ryan is working on a theme for the wiki | 23:41 |
| shadeslayer | whoo :D | 23:41 |
| ofirk | I guess help.ubuntu.com won't be themed since it is a ubuntu site, not kubuntu (is there help.kubuntu.org?) | 23:41 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: then http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/support also needs re ordering | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | community , then answers , free docs and then paid support | 23:42 |
| descendent87 | why are kubuntuforums reccomended above ubuntuforums? surely we should be using ubuntuforums as it is the same base so a lot of the problems are shared with ubuntu and there is a lot more activity on there than the kubuntuforums | 23:42 |
| ofirk | descendent87: you are right. this is a left over from the old site... | 23:44 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: oh and on the live chat page,can we have instructions on getting onto the IRC? ( specifically with quassel ) | 23:44 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: I think that free docs is the best place for help (help.ubuntu.com) | 23:44 |
| shadeslayer | a screenshot guided tour kind of thing | 23:44 |
| ofirk | this should go into the wiki | 23:44 |
| ofirk | if you can make one and upload it to the wiki, I will be glad to link to it | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: ill do it this weekend and put it in the ML | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: any particular screen size ( aka resolution ) | 23:45 |
| descendent87 | ofirk: that's cool, just wondered as new kubuntu users will get help a lot quicker on ubuntu forums | 23:46 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: no | 23:46 |
| shadeslayer | ok.. well i have a 1440x900 screen :P | 23:46 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: it will be best if you do it on a clean install of 10.04 so you will be able to explain it for begginers who just installed kubuntu | 23:47 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: you can use vm for this... | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: oh i can just create a new user ;) | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | or a VM would do too :D | 23:47 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: yep :) | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: ok,added to TODO ;) | 23:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: don't think I'll get to kdeaccessibility merge or indeed anything else tonight, will do tomorrow morning | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: already merged ;) | 23:49 |
| Riddell | oh, groovy | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: thanks to lex79 | 23:49 |
| lex79 | :) | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: anything else you need from me? | 23:51 |
| shadeslayer | im pretty much free 24x7 these days | 23:51 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: I wish I was free... | 23:52 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: no thanks! | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | ( if only i knew how to code websites,i could help there too ) | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: whats the new site coded in btw? | 23:52 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: it uses drupal 6 which is php, js, html and css for markup | 23:53 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 23:53 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: where can i learn this? ( im a n00b at website making :P ) | 23:53 |
| descendent87 | is kde 4.5 beta 2 running a lot slower than 4.4 for anyone else? I have an ATI Radeon HD3200 card using the os ati driver and KDE feels a lot slower to me, clicking anything takes a few seconds to respond etc. Just want to check it's not a known bug or video driver issue before I report it | 23:54 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: I learned php from the php manual website | 23:54 |
| shadeslayer | descendent87: yeah its a bit slow | 23:54 |
| ofirk | but that was 8 years ago I think... | 23:54 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 23:54 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: i thought drupal was a sort of CDBMS | 23:54 |
| descendent87 | shadeslayer: at least it's not just me experiencing it then | 23:55 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: it is a CMS | 23:55 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: yes thats what i meant ;) | 23:55 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: actually an abstract CMS, so it makes it more difficult to learn | 23:56 |
| shadeslayer | descendent87: yeah,i get random lock ups and stuff | 23:56 |
| ofirk | but has you learn how to use wordpress, for example, you get used to the idea of CMS | 23:56 |
| shadeslayer | there was another CMS system i started to learn.. then i got fed up :P | 23:56 |
| ofirk | it's nice to play with them but if you don't have anything specific, you will leave it | 23:57 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: suppose i want to switch mirrors in pbuilder,what do i do> | 23:57 |
| shadeslayer | edited pbuilderrc btw | 23:58 |
| maco | shadeslayer: pbuilder login --save-after-login (umm check the manpage) | 23:58 |
| maco | shadeslayer: then use sed to replace the URL with the mirror's URL | 23:58 |
| ofirk | shadeslayer: so you program with C++? | 23:58 |
| maco | shadeslayer: then exit the pbuilder and itll retar with your changes saved | 23:58 |
| maco | shadeslayer: im not sure about my -- part of the command, hence the manpage reference | 23:59 |
| shadeslayer | ofirk: i know C++ ,but learning to use Qt and KDE libs,also i help package KDE and in bug triaging | 23:59 |
| shadeslayer | maco: oh sure no problem ;) | 23:59 |
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